WEAPONS THREAD

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>>50506004
I don't have too many things but I'll post some of what I have to get the thread started.

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>>50506004

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>>50506270
TY anon. Thought I was the only one in here

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>>50506303
ring-gun??

>>50506344
>#2
is that a fucking banana

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>>50506004

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>>50506808
Cute sword.

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>>50506897
The use of shark tooth weapons in brutal.

For those that don't want to google it, the teeth are loosely affixed to the core. So that when a victim is stuck the teeth detach and become lodged in the wound.

>>50506030
that connection weld looks nasty as fuck from here. that should have been way better machined.
>that aside, would absolutely carry under carseat for just in case

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>>50506061
oh god my wrist

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>>50506897
>Shark teeth, wood, and coconut husk fiber, and human hair
>human hair
for what purpose

>>50507622
gotta attach the shark teeth somehow

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Can't find a proper image for this, but it's foldable SMG, fits into a case smaller than a tablet.

>>50507756
theres a nerf version of this

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For those special moments when you need to take down an AFV with a rifle

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>>50507423
Reminds me of this

>>50507756
Wait a minute... was this in RoboCop? With that little kid selling drugs?

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>>50507622
It's Kiribati. Don't question it.

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>>50506004
Messer.
When you really need a sword, but can't afford one.

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>>50507801
I'm a fan of weird guns

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>>50507866
Manville is a grenade launcher thou

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>>50507866
Speaking about werid guns... Can't find the one with drum magazine, but the sole concept of a bayonette for an SMG is weird enough

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>>50507938
Shit, wrong photo

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>>50507879
>>50507423
NOT ENOUGH

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>>50508123
dios mio

>>50507622
48 bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves

>>50508123
What the fuck... how is that even suppose to work without having a harness for it? It had to weight a tonne

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>>50507938
It shouldn't be.

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This particular rifle is chambered in an experimental 20mm cartridge.

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>>50508210

>Enouy 48 shot revolver
>"this weapon is very heavy, unbalanced and unwieldy"
>"too big to carry or fit in a holster and very uncomfortable to hold and fire"

and the best part:
>"In addition, since it was a cap and ball revolver, each chamber would have been loaded individually with loose powder and a bullet"

http://firearmshistory.blogspot.ca/2014/03/the-enouy-revolver.html

http://peashooter85.tumblr.com/post/137719644385/the-enouy-48-shot-revolver-patented-by-joseph

>>50508525
what is that?

>>50508931
The jaw of an ass.

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>>50509803
This just looks like a modified H&K G3. still pretty nice though.

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>>50506004

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Shame that it can't feed from this position, becaues otherwise I'd be moving heaven and earth to get my hands on this carbine.

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It's a spring-powered semi-auto revolver mod IIRC.

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>>50506344
According to tests, the Uru'd survive the apocalypse easily.

>>50509065
What the fuck is that? How do you even load it? Why does it have two hammers?

>>50511306
photoshop.

>>50511456
Well that was underwhelming, but at least it makes sense now.

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If you live in NY and know a good gunsmith, this is a nice way to get around the tyranny of Cuomo.

>>50508931
Samson

>>50511290
God damn it hurts not having it

>>50509084
Sure it's nice. But y tho?

>>50511556
>If you live in NY and know a good gunsmith, this is a nice way to get around the tyranny of Cuomo.
>a nice way to get around the tyranny of Cuomo.
>tyranny
Why are Americans doing this?
Why the fuck you have this obsession with being armed to the teeth for no real reason other than because and are willing to break shitload of laws or dodge different bills just so you can own a military-grade weapon that you will most likely never use, unless on shooting range... where you will be most likely asked why are you carrying an illegal gun.

What's the fucking point?

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>tfw the cool kind of scythe is a shit weapon

>>50511632
A lot of Americans don't trust the government. Keeping a citizenry armed is one of the primary ways to dissuade a tyrannical government.

And frankly, I don't know if I can really blame that decision.

>>50511632
Why do Communists and Socialists doing this.
Why the fuck do you have this obsession with disarming your fellow man for no benefit to anyone but corrupt politicians just so they can say "see I did something to fight gang crime" that will be exactly the same next year because it did nothing to the gangs and instead targeted everyone else.

Whats the fucking point?

>>50511706
Yes, because nothing stops nerve gas bombardment and airstrikes like a bunch of people armed with rifles...

>>50511719
Jesus... No more questions...
Are you at least aware Cold War is over for long enough you were probably born after that?

>>50511632
>military-grade weapon
literal meme.

>>50511751
So having no weapons at all is a better solution?

>>50511756
Automatic weapons?
Anti-material rifles?

Gee, I guess that's for hunting. When the deer is driving in an AFV

>>50511751
>Because the first thing a government wants to do is make crucial infrastructure absolutely useless.

Airstrikes don't usually come out until things have already gone off the rails. The guns keep things on the rails.

>>50511765
Self defense is a legitimate use you fucking bastard, a high capacity rifle is better in case of a home invasion by multiple assaultants for example.

>>50511760
Have you checked the world around?

There are about 8 thousands guns in my country for 38 million people. 5 of which are hunting weapon and another 2 are marksman weapon used for sports. Everything else is weapon issues for self-defense
Guess what? Barely any homicide! No crazy gunman mows people down each month in a cinema! Last time police had to use their guns was 12 years ago.

But hey, better arm everyone and their dog to feel safe, right?

>>50511792
And witch country is that commie?

>>50511765
>He never had to deal with deer in a stolen LAV
>He never had to deal with cougars in F/A-18s
Sheltered millennial piece of shit.

>>50511779
Let me explain this to you.
When one side has total and unlimited air superiority, you are fucked.
Because they can literally fly over your ass and just shoot you. Not to mention air-born airament advanced "a bit" since WW2, so yeah, you are fucked.
Because if you have a government that is in the first place willing to fight against own citizens, then the citizens are fucked regardless.
Just check Syria and how it worked out for them having guns.
Helped them the most against sarin bombardment.

>>50511791
>Anti-material rifle
>Against burglar
At least I know now you are trolling

>>50511792
And in some places with strict gun control te violence rate is high, there are many more variables than the number of guns.

>>50511765
>Anti-material rifles?
I assume you mean .50 cal rifles or their rough equivalents. Only a couple thousand people in the entire country own them. They're a purely luxury item and they do very little you couldn't do with another, smaller weapon. They're amazing for long-distance sniping I guess, but the majority of fighting isn't that.

>Automatic weapons
Mostly a meme. Most crimes are committed with semi-automatic handguns or rifles, not automatic. Besides, it's not like there are just SAWs and .30 Brownings lying around, shit's expensive and not even most gun owners have a fully-automatic rifle.

>>50511813
No anon that for the swat van.

>>50511813
I was talking about the assault rifle, maybe a anti-materiel rife isn't "necessary" (that fucking word, YOU have to prove that something must be banned not the contrary), but its not like many people care to own them in the first place and no crimes are committed by the few that do, it isn't a relevant issue at all.

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>>50511632
>Why the fuck you have this obsession with being armed to the teeth for no real reason
We do have a reason, more than I'm willing to list actually so I'll settle with the big one, because it's my right.
>just so you can own a military-grade weapon
Any weapon is military grade, in fact during the revolution everything from cannons to warships was donated to the continental army and then promptly returned to their respective owners.
>that you will most likely never use, unless on shooting range... where you will be most likely asked why are you carrying an illegal gun.
Better to have it and not need it. Also I probably won't be asked those questions, because with the right paperwork any gun is legal.

I recommend you educate yourself on firearms and the myriad of legislation around them.

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>>50511765
>Gee, I guess that's for hunting. When the deer is driving in an AFV
I didn't know the second amendment only applied to hunting.

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Still my favourite fictional gun to date. So satisfying to fire, cool science, looks pretty, scares the shit out of other players when they get hit.

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>>50511813
>When one side has total and unlimited air superiority, you are fucked.
How so? You are aware that anti-air weapons exist no?
>Because they can literally fly over your ass and just shoot you.
Me too, heat signatures are a bitch like that.
>Because if you have a government that is in the first place willing to fight against own citizens, then the citizens are fucked regardless.
Not really, did you know Russia has vowed to support the Texas' secession?
>Just check Syria and how it worked out for them having guns.
Well, it's still going, you do know how war works right? Those planes aren't going to occupy anything any time soon.
>Helped them the most against sarin bombardment.
Oh yes, the US government using chemical weapons on it's citizens, I can hear the various nations scrambling over themselves to relieve us of their tyranny to have the ear of the biggest faction.

>ITT: Americans being delusional about armed militia facing against biggest, best equipped army on this planet

>>50512053
You just have to make the idea look really fucking costly. Then they find less killy ways of taking your freedom.

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>>50512053
It's in our blood tory.

>>50512053
Yeah. Armed civilians with personal or imported arms have never beat the US government.

Ever.

Except every war in the last 60 years where exactly that happened.

>>50512087
Also this. It's how we won the first time around.

Literally just running around and smashing railroads and highways could bring an end to a war.

>>50512087
When any given government rolls tanks against own population - they don't care about costs anymore.

Recall how it worked for Japs when they tried to make invasion costly.

>>50512171
>they don't care about costs anymore
Taking over a nation doesn't meach much when a fifth of it is a smoking crater. A coup must be as cost efficient as possible.

>>50512146
>Smashing highways
Boy oh boy... The fantasy really caught on you.

You are forgetting one important factor.
Military STARTS organised. Civilians don't. And please, don't try to bring third-world militaries for comparison, because you will dig yourself only deeper.

>>50512180
*doesn't mean much
fix'd

>>50512180
You don't get it, do you?
They don't care.

It's that simple. I know it might seem illogical, but people who run coups by default don't give a fuck about anything else than being king of the hill.
Even if the hill is a smoldering ruin.

>>50512181
And it's certainly not a concern that the military might disobey or even outright defect, up to and including generals and commanders of nuclear installations.

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>>50512053
This is such an uneducated opinion, you have to consider the fact that a great part of the military personnel, problably the majority, will defect in case of orders to fight against their own citizens, soldiers aren't automatic killer bots despite what you might believe, also a militia won't seek to face an army formation in an open engagement, they are going to go after weaker targets like small checkpoints, logistics and patrols, the objective is to cause enough damage in order to make the government back down.

>>50512171
>Recall how it worked for Japs when they tried to make invasion costly.
lol they are going to drop nuclear bombs on their own cities?

>>50512181
You mean our domestic military, who is made up of people who have strong anti-tyrannical views, on the outset of an anti-tyrannical revolution, would start out organized and march on the citizenry in lockstep?

Are you retarded?

When Hillary was about to get elected there was OPEN talk of defection where I was stationed.

>>50512053
One, it's about shooting the right people. Shoot an armyman, there's the army to deal with. Shoot a farmer, a lot of people go hungry.
Two, it's about getting the drop on them. About not being a target for as long as possible, to become a target as short as possible. Shoot a politician getting out of their car, blasting soldiers when they're distracted. Basically watch any copkilling video and you can see how easy it is for a civilian to kill an armed force that treats the people with any semblance of respect. It's why police are starting to get triggerhappy, they get trained on the dashcam footage of failures.
Three, if some broke-ass guy from a third world country can fight this army, a citizen of that country which soldiers do not necessarily have a strong personal motive to shoot can. Any real movement to start a civil war would start first in the army.

>>50512263
That's why they've been pushing for a more inclusive and soft army lately, they want leftists who are okay with working for a totalitarian government.

>>50512171
>Recall how it worked for Japs when they tried to make invasion costly.

Worked great, really. The US was having second thoughts about invading the main islands and ultimately the Japanese figured that they'd rather have the US than cede half to 3/4 of their country as a colony to Stalin for god knows how long.

>>50512208
>And it's certainly not a concern that the military might disobey or even outright defect

A good portion of the US military is a heretedary military class, Anon. They're shooting up citizens at the pipeline protests as we speak, btw. Chances that they'd defect are negligable.

>>50506902
>Durex
>eject
heh

>>50512352
That'll happen when you attack people anon, why do you think Kent state happened?

>>50512352
Those are commie scum at the protests and are protesting something military types generally agree with. Notice the lack of firearms at the protest and how much they are getting their shit kicked in.

Now look how Bundee Ranch turned out.

If leftists actually cared about the pipeline, and if it was actually tyrannical, they would occupy the area at gunpoint.

The revolution will be fought over something the gun owners care about.

>>50508315
I mean, the purpose of having an SMG is to be able to manouver a fast firin gun in close quarters.
Lenghthening it with a bayonet defeats that purpose.

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>>50512405
No it does not, it gives you the means to aggressively advance through an enclosed place by giving you a means to attack in extremely close range.

>>50512405
That SMG was build with experiences of trench warfare from WW1 - so bayonette.
Not the wisest decision, but understandable

>>50512208
That happens if you have conscription.

Which burgers replaced with professionals and contractors 40 years ago.

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>>50512263
>T-they will disobey orders
>T-that's a given

>>50512468
That'll happen in a volunteer army.

>>50511807
>38 million
off the top of my head, sounds like Canada or Poland.

>>50512468
oh for fucks sake, someone post the screencap.

The one that says the moment America has to say "It's a rebellion" the establishment has already lost.

I would but I don't have it for some fucking reason

>>50512468
Do you not know any American service men?

>>50512484
Close, but no cigars - concripted armies are prone to this, especially if soldiers aren't treated any better than civilians by the government for past few years.

Which of course doesn't apply to how US armed forces are run, with outright hereditary military class running the show and professional and long-contractors doing the job.
The exception could be National Guard, but we all know how good they are in doing anything else than cleaning the mess after tornado/flood/forest fires.

>>50512539
What have you been smoking?

Could /k/ and /pol/ kindly leave this thread for their respective boards?

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>>50512550
Why?

>>50512564
Dunno.
Maybe because you are annoying?
Maybe because I knew the moment a gun will be posted in this thread, it will soon derail into bitching about 2nd Amendment.
Maybe because this whole bullshit has absolutely NOTHING to do with /tg/ stuff?
Maybe because there are is so little janitors left nobody can govern and purge this shit regardless of amount of reports?

>>50512529
One word for you, friend:
Milgram

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>>50512584
In order.
I don't care.
This amuses me.
OP wanted it, blame that faggot.
Or maybe they don't see a problem.

>>50512547
He thinks because children are encouraged to serve by their serviceman parents we have bred this ultra loyal state above all type mutant.

All servicemen I know hate the government. They see the military as completely separate from the state. They would defect at the drop of a hat if a rebellion happened.

He's either a foreigner or lives in a leftist echo chamber.

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>>50512468
Jesus fuck, how about instead of arming yourselves to the teeth to prevent a tyrant government from taking your freedoms,
You simply don't elect one?
Really, the rest of the (civilised) world has laws in place to prevent this.
And it would come with a nice side effect of losing the outlook that if there is a slightest suspition of danger then it's okay to kill a man.
In Europe, the police fires as a last resort, when life is in danger and other enforcement methods were exhausted or not available, which results in less than 10 fatalities yearly in each country.
In case of home defence, if yor life is in danger, you just let the fucker do whatever he wants, then you cll the police and get your shit back and the bastard in jail.
It's just that much better for everyone involved not to have guns, how can you not see it?

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>>50512522
nevermind, found it!

>>50512619
Anon, for past 130 or so years Americans have had it drilled in their heads by gun manufactures they NEED a gun.
It really surprises you?

>>50512619
>Jesus fuck, how about instead of arming yourselves to the teeth to prevent a tyrant government from taking your freedoms,
>You simply don't elect one?
No can do anon, since the uneducated have the same right to vote as the educated.

>>50512619
Met enough Americans to know they are simply paranoid about their safety, going in circular logic how having a gun will prevent you from being shoot by a gun, so get a gun, because the bad guy already has two and nothing will prevent him from getting third.
So of course everyone and their dog buys a gun, for home protection. Then the police has no other choice, but shoot on sight, because the sole possibility the suspect is armed is not worth the risk.
Add to that heavy lobbying, especially during Reagan administration, and here you are, a nation with paranoid people armed to their teeth, while blasting bullshit about doing this for freedom and security.

>>50512619
>give the criminal what he wants

What if he wants your life? We have issues in major cities of thrill killers, these aren't like ultra smart types, they are hood folk who see an old man mowing his lawn and throw a brick at his head.

>Don't elect a tyrant
So we are at the whim of the majority? So if all white people in the US vote a president that wants to full on genocide blacks the black people are supposed to just go "man maybe we should wait for the next election cycle to vote him out".

Fuck off retard. Run your own countries into the ground.

>>50511556
Muh dic.
>>50511632
>Military grade weapons
Are a thing that don't exist.
>What is the point?
It's a right guaranteed in our founding documents, a right which in reality all humans have but only some governments are willing to acknowledge, the same as freedom of speech and expression or freedom of the press. If you don't have the same guarantees in your founding documents, it's not because we Americans are sooo crazy, it's because a group of powerful individuals at some point in your country's past made the conscious decision to strip you of some of your inalienable human rights.

>>50512642
How about this - you educate them.
Like the rest of the civilised world did.

But that would cost too much, right? Better just buy a gun, that totally solves all problem.

>>50512674
Yep, that's America for you.

>>50512666
>thrill killers
Then having a gun won't do shit, because he has a gun too and he's the one already pointing it at you.
>So we are at the whim of the majority?
That's how democracy works. You should finally learn that.

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>>50512619
>Jesus fuck, how about instead of arming yourselves to the teeth
Why do you care if I do?
>You simply don't elect one?
Right because a vote will stop someone who wants power and isn't afraid to use force to get it.
>Really, the rest of the (civilised) world has laws in place to prevent this.
As far as I'm concerned, that's not civilized.
>losing the outlook that if there is a slightest suspition of danger then it's okay to kill a man.
Why would I do that? Some people are dangerous and shouldn't live.
>In Europe, the police fires as a last resort
So do our police. Though I rather they shoot when they feel necessary even if it's preemptive.
>In case of home defence, if yor life is in danger, you just let the fucker do whatever he wants
No thanks, I'd rather kill him and his friends, stay off my property next time. Also I like how you think all they want is your stuff and the police can track them so easily.
>It's just that much better for everyone involved not to have guns, how can you not see it?
Because it's even better if the right people have guns.

>>50512666
I'm not sure you understand how legal state works.
Or democratic system, for that matters

>>50512674
>Educate them like the rest of the civilized world did
BAAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAAHAHAHHAH
I'M DYING
SWEDEN, HELLO, IS THAT YOU!?
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
HOW'RE THOSE REFUGEES TREATING YA!?

>>50512690
>Right because a vote will stop someone who wants power and isn't afraid to use force to get it.
And guns did?

>right people have guns.
Please define "right people". Especially after every single motherfucking mass shooting.

>>50512712
Czech Republic here

No refugees.
No gun homicide.
Police last shot someone almost 20 years ago.
Tax-funded education for everyone.

But hey, better blast something about Sweden, since /pol/ once mentioned such country in that thread about blacks raping Europe, right?

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>>50512638
You mean our constitution and the founders of our nation said should we so wish we can bare arms, not just guns, cannons, volleyguns and warships.
>>50512664
>Then the police has no other choice, but shoot on sight
Sure kiddo, that's a real thing.
>>50512674
They don't want education, they want what they want and it's usually sex, drugs and money.
>>50512680
There are self defense practices developed around that particular scenario and we aren't a democracy.

>>50512642
>implying intelligence = wisdom
See all the citydwelling uni students and news casters who are astonished that there was as huge a backing for Donald Trump. A degree doesn't help you see reality any better, actually seeing it does, and the difference between rural America and urban America is like the transition between District and City in the fucking Hunger Games. In the farm you have people dressed practically doing jobs with their hands and having values based around work and a community that works, and then you go into the city and you see a man with a pink-hair sidecut and a curly-que mustache walking back to his apartment with his newly purchased Wacom tablet to update his webcomic about the sex toy industry. The people in the city don't care about people in the country, but the city has all the attention, so the country knows a lot about the city.

Education does not let you see reality. Worldliness does. Besides, education and the truth it heralds is defined by the teacher, who may be corrupt.

>>50512690
How do you choose the right people then?
Well, suppose you train them in the proper usage of guns, and bad guy recognition, they will also need some sort of protection from the government so they can lawfully do something against those bad guys, and hey look,
isn't that the fucking Police?
Logic up.
I'm glad I don't live on the meme continent, it's not safe there.

>>50512713
>And guns did?
I'd go with violence in general but yes, that too.
>Please define "right people".
Loyal citizens to a nation.
Also you're more likely to die from lightening than a mass shooting, which could have been stopped had those people been armed.

>>50512674
The fact that you're a gungrabber does not speak favorably of your home country's quality of education. America as is (and for all it's faults its a pretty fucking great place to live) would not exist if armed citizens hadn't told a heavy handed government to fuck off.

>>50512752
>How do you choose the right people then?
Loyal citizens of a nation.
>Well, suppose you train them in the proper usage of guns, and bad guy recognition
So a few hours in a room and courts exist.
>isn't that the fucking Police?
No, police enforce laws.

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>>50512752
You're right.

It isn't here.

If only their was a reason.

>>50512783
Anon, no! Your heavy handed means will turn them off!

>>50509803
>Vladof

>>50512777
If not via laws, how do you choose who the bad guy is.
You wouldn't have just some random person who passed whatever """loyalty to the nation""" test you propose decide life and death based on their concience, would you, Anon?

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>>50512619
look at the murder rate in 1997 after britbongistan banned most guns for most people. It skyrocketed, while elsewhere in the 1st world it almost universally decreased relative to previous levels, including in gun happy canada and US. You're an innumerate garbagebag europoor.

To the posters whining about this becoming /pol/, the whiny foreigner started the pictureless bitching first. That being said, let's at least try to keep on topic while arguing about this shit.

>>50512821
>If not via laws, how do you choose who the bad guy is.
By laws and personal action.
>decide life and death based on their concience, would you, Anon?
Actually I would, of course a court will review the case but I would be ok with giving that person that power.

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>>50512832
Righto.

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>>50512389
>Now look how Bundee Ranch turned out.

They got off in court because technically nobody could show that what they openly declared and clearly performed in reality was actually REAL.

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>>50512619
>Jesus fuck, how about instead of arming yourselves to the teeth to prevent a tyrant government from taking your freedoms,
>You simply don't elect one?
>Really, the rest of the (civilised) world has laws in place to prevent this.
How's that not-getting-bombed-by-terrorists going, Europe?
>In case of home defence, if yor life is in danger, you just let the fucker do whatever he wants, then you cll the police and get your shit back and the bastard in jail.
>Being this much of a retard

>>50512619
>You simply don't elect one?

Cofirmed for having deplorable low energy. Should have voted third party.

>>50512619
>simply don't elect one
No one has control over the rest of the country, so when I don't personally elect one but millions of others do there's an issue.

However people aren't going to be fighting off the army with the guns in their house and they're dumb for thinking that's still an option.

>slightest suspicion of danger
Have you ever lived in a place where if you walk down the wrong street you could be robbed and possibly beaten to death because you were alone and white? A lot of people are just trigger happy, but a lot of that is founded on real risks of being poor and living around other poor people.

>less than 10 fatalities yearly in each country
Our cops are supposed to fire as a last resort, however the people in the countries aren't comparable. Europe has actual healthcare, mental and otherwise. That involves having a lot less people who have to decide between food and bills because they're falling apart mentally and physically and can't keep their shit together enough to get a good paying job, if there even is one available. That leads to a lot of violent assholes who can't care about life and are focus on a system they feel is out to get them. The problem is that guns are cheap enough for even these people to afford them and neither are in short supply.

>In case of home defense, if your life is in danger, you just let the fucker do whatever he wants, then you call the police and get your shit back and the bastard in jail.
Good for you, but why would you assume that works elsewhere? If they're breaking into a house they probably think it's empty. If they don't think it's empty then letting them do what they want means you'll probably get raped and murdered. Chances are they won't get caught and you won't get your stuff back because they're 1/100 cases.

tl;dr America is a violent fucked up country far beyond guns and your solutions don't work because the setting is different.

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>>50512879
Doing pretty fine.

Remind us all - how being armed prevented anyone from hijacking over two planes and crushing them into one of the symbols of NY?

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>>50512914
Would of worked a lot better if they were armed on the plane.

>>50512776
>People actually believe this

>>50512914
See:
>>50512925

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>>50512925
That totally explains why everyone is frisked upon entering US planes and you can't even bring on a bottle of water, not to mention a weapon.

But hey, guns would solve that!

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>>50512731
>But hey, better blast something about Sweden

They have to. Sweden is the one nation that dedicated itself to maximizing the freedom and the choices of its citizens and succeeded by all measures.

If there's ONE nation that the people who own the media in the US ABSOLUTELY NEED to have blasted 24/7 RIGHT NOW, it's the one that demonstrates that and how the American Dream can actually be made reality.

>>50512927
>>50512938
So it didn't.

But surely, it should have prevented a bomb attack in France, if they weren't commie coward socialist scum, right?
Pinnacle of NRA logic.

>>50512914
Guns haven't been allowed on planes since the 70's when someone said they had a bomb and wanted everyone's money and a parachute. He got away with it flawlessly.

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>>50512939
>That totally explains why everyone is frisked upon entering US planes
They are /now/ care to guess why?

And yes, I think so.

>>50512944
There is also Finland.
And Norway.
And Iceland.
And Denmark, but we don't speak about Denmark, they are just Germans pretending to be Nordic.

>>50512949
Hey, several attempts on US soil ended with habib's brains spread over the pavement. So you tell me.

>>50512964
Netherlands, too, especially since they are completely outside Nordic and Scandinavia.

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all you faggots stop talking anecdotes, bring some stats rather than dueling stories and most importantly. post some pictures or FUCK OFF TO POL.

(Im one of the pro gun people fwiw)

>>50512973
And declaring emergency state prevented further attacks in Europe without anyone dying, rather than lynch mob doing "justice".

So you tell me.

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GIVE ME MORE SHIT JUNK-GUNS

>>50506329
>tfw you rolled a 3 for Craft: Firearm

>>50512939
I forgot what he was called, but he's the plain-clothes officer on a plane. I think that's a thing?

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>>50512999
you guys literally live in a police state. England spies on its citizens more than all other five eyes countries. In france its illegal to make anti-abortion arguments online. In Spain its illegal to make fun of cops on facebook. And you assholes still keep getting kebabed.

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>>50512999
Any more people, you mean.

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>>50513002

Fallout is a piece of shit.

Just look for Brazilian weapons

And yes, this is a fucking open bolt full auto cal 50. rifle

>>50512999
Though to be honest, the French did attack some random country within their former colonial empire in retaliation for the Paris attacks.

>>50511765
jumping on this bandwagon

>Automatic weapons?
looks like someone's been listening to the news without doing an ounce of fact checking

fully-automatic weapons in the US are illegal for civilian ownership*. they are not produced. they are not sold. they are not bought. they are not used in crimes. all the politicking you hear about is not directed at restricting civilian use of fully-automatic weapons (which might as well not exist*) but restricting civilian-grade semi-automatic weapons.
>Anti-material rifles?
are expensive as FUCK. no one owns them but rich collectors, and even then, armor-piercing ammunition is illegal so there's no point. furthermore, they're not used in crimes both due to their rarity and their impracticality.
*because someone will inevitably correct me on this, yes. there ARE some civy-legal full autos in the states. Congress banned the production, sale, transfer, and ownership of them in 1986, but anything made BEFORE 1986 is still legal to own... if you register it with the ATF (the government agency that handles this shit.) So there is a finite, limited, not-increasing number of full autos. they are rare as SHIT, owned only by collectors, incredibly expensive due to their rarity, and have NEVER been used in a crime. Furthermore, the government knows where they all are and who owns them.

so if your definition of "military grade" is simply fully auto or anti-material, well, we don't have those. so you have no argument.

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>>50513031
Air marshal.

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>>50512997
>Girly weapons
>Not girly at all
Regardless, I wouldn't want to be hit with those.

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>>50513053
Sky marshal?

>>50513036
>you guys literally live in a police state.

The US secret service can probably produced hit-lists of internal enemies within days. They've been recording and processing all communication within the country for years already.
And Google's been busy improving their killer robot AI's capability of finding everybody's house as well.

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>>50513050
Mostly correct, listen to this man.

>>50513002
>>50513023
stop, it already hurts looking at that

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>>50513074
But of course, that's national security.

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>>50512604
I never asked for this. I just wanted QT guns and weapons with personality.

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>>50513137
I have those.

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>>50513002
>We approached these designs from the point of view of a resourceful Wastelander that knows nothing about guns
Just like Bethesda's design team.

>>50513039
I want to see what that would do to something

>>50513074
At what point does someone appear on this list? When they oppose almost everything the current establishment stands for and runs for president? Or are big names exempt, and only little names can be killed quietly?

Because this tells me we need more people like Donald Trump, more loud and well known than anyone else, so that everyone will notice when they're gone.

>>50512604
So basically you are offtopic shitposter and proud of that?

Where are the janitors when you need one...

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>>50513218
I'm giving OP what he wants.

>>50513233
Shitposts?

OP asked for anything, but NRA-vs-anti-gun-movement bullshit

>>50512584
>>50513244
A libtard started this shit and now you keep complaining when everybody has already stopped
Neck yourself

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>>50513244
I don't see that specifically.
I'm just posting weapons and defending my position on them.

>>50511632
>Why are Americans doing this?
Because we can and want to. Why aren't you?
>Why the fuck you have this obsession with being armed to the teeth for no real reason other than because and are willing to break shitload of laws or dodge different bills just so you can own a military-grade weapon that you will most likely never use, unless on shooting range... where you will be most likely asked why are you carrying an illegal gun.
Because guns are nice to look at, fun to shoot, and good to have just in case, and an SCR is not illegal, even in California or NYC, and "military grade weapon" is more of an insult than anything else is cause the military doesn't buy the most expensive and "deadly" gun they buy the cheapest one that gets the job done.
>What's the fucking point?
What's the fucking point of not doing it?

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>>50513244
>>50513261
There's nothing wrong with you guys arguing just make sure to post images too. If arguing makes you hard down there I'm not gonna stop you but at least post guns or weapons to stay on topic.

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>>50511751
>the government is overpowered so we should disarm ourselves because resistance is futile

Literally wew: the lad. If you believe this 1984 logic, then the totalitarian regime has already won. You're living in a dystopia.

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>>50513380
Says the guy with images from tumblr

>>50513392
Get raped by a migrant, you know fine well that he got that from an image search, faggot.

>>50513392
>Muh tumblr
>It's just a fucking hammer

>>50513282
How is this even suppose to work? Like a battle hammer?

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>>50513418
>Getting this mad over getting called out on tumblr images
Wew lad

>>50513452
I think it's for midget assassins who want to stab a motherfucker but are too short.

>>50513468
It's literally just a fucking hammer.
Are hammers SJWs now or something?

>>50513484
So that's where the magazine on that thing went.

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>>50513392
>not following weapon porn blogs

No shame desu.

>>50506120
as impractical as that thing is, i like the idea of a barbarian finding a magic blade that is very powerful but shaped like a cute kitty or something. power or pride...

>>50513734
CURVED

SWORDS

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twin-linked heavy stubber intensifies

>>50513841
what's the lever for?

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>>50513960
Fuck if I know.

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>the guy getting punked by a banana man in the lower right corner.

>>50510670
Derringer was the first true operator.

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>>50514018
Eh, that wierd Austro-Hungarian folding stock is the first true gun-related operator-item I've seen.

>>50513452
Yeah, it fulfills all of the same functions, weighted head with a blunt end for smashing a bloke's fookin' 'ead in, sharp pointy end for smashing an armored bloke's fookin' 'ead in.

>>50512223
It was the same on Bragg. The military would side with the people at the drop of a dime

>>50507860
messers are perfectly spathine, anon

>>50513452
It's most likely a civilian weapon, basically a cudgel with a nail.

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>repeating, gravity-fed flintlock rifle

The Italians were going strong during the 18th century...

>>50507949
that is just plain sexy

>>50510490
It's a G3 LMG variant. The hole in the handguard is so you can do barrel changes.

>>50514278
Do you have an image of someone holding it?

>>50513233
that is cool as fuck

>>50514309
Somebody else posted it already.

>>50507471

>>50514309
>>50507471

>>50512733
reminds me of a dashboard out a 70's ford. I like it

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>>50506043

I always find the Tang dynasty fascinating, because the way they were bandits who burst through the great wall of china to conquer the previous dynasty always makes me want to call them the cool-aid dynasty, OH YEAH

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>>50513817

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>>50507756
>fits into a case smaller than a tablet.

...and?

>>50514549
THE TANG DYNASTY IS A HAN DYNASTY.

A HAN DYNASTY.

NO FOREIGNERS TOTALLY 100% HAN-CHINESE DYNASTY.

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>>50507938

this is a time when magazines were often used as gun grips in full auto intergrated silenced machine pistols.

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>>50508123

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>>50512405
>>50512405

When you come around the dogleg bend in a trench and there's motherfuckers in front of you and some times the guy you shot to death is blocking your line of fire to his buddies so you stab into his corpse before it falls and flick it to the side like a porkball before you turn back and begin sweeping across the rest of the trench with the gun.

>>50508123
Joke's on you, that's what my current Base Raiders character uses.

>>50514690
Anon thats a bolt action pistol its not any type of auto.

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>>50514637
>han
>no foriegners

YOU SOUTHERN DEVILS SHOULD STICK TO SOUTH, FUCK FISH AND MEND NETS, LEAVE BEIJING FOR REAL CHINESE, PAY TAXES AND FOLLOW LAWS NOT LOSE EMPIRE TO MINIATURE ORANGES AGAIN

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>>50514791

DELETE THIS

>>50514877
Look into your anus you know it to be true
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/brit/welrod-silent-e.html

>>50514877
Please tell me this chambers shotgun shells.

>>50514916
No as far as I can tell its one of those "less lethal"
Russian civilian weapons that will put a rubber slug thru someones skull at 3 meters.

I built an oddity a while back, an AR chambered in 5.45x39 (The principal cartridge of the Soviet/Russian military). Edit: Image limit, dammit

>>50514549
>Tang
>Foreigners
Fucking kill yourself

>>50511751
>Yes, because nothing stops nerve gas bombardment and airstrikes like a bunch of people armed with rifles...
Ah yes, we all know those filthy Vietcong and Taliban were totally destroyed by our airstri- Oh wait.

>>50515722
The Chinese complained about them acting like non-chinese until the very end. They generally called it "AND THEN THE KING WENT MAD AND ACTED LIKE AN ANIMAL. LIKE HE TOTALLY DRESSED IN NON-HAN CLOTHES AND PRACTICED HORSE ARCHERY ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING."

>>50516322
>he thinks that anyone will throw cash and weapons and intel at the rebellious burgers

>>50516375
>implying Russia wouldn't
And the only "cash and weapons and intel" the Taliban and Al Queda had were shitty 60s era Soviet rifles and a bunch of shitty phones from the 90s.

>>50517048
>That was Liu Song dynasty, roguthly three centuries before Tang

Nah, same shit happened during the Tang dynasty. Han scholars were really mad about a bunch of princes acting and dressing in ways that were normal for their people and called them nuts.

>>50511813
>he's never heard of the /k/ommando who did home defense with a 20mm

>>50513039
Fun fact: guns are illegal here.

Anyone got a picture of a sword that looks like branches or is made of leaves? Need something along those lines for a magic macguffin in my campaign.

>>50517483

dude, you rearrange the interior of the house so there's a central rotatable turret and gun ports hidden carefully in the walls so as to allow anyone manning the turret to be able to cover the main angles of the rooms arranged around the hidden turret room.

>>50517661
that sure helped to prevent crime...

>>50517483
He means the meme dude. There was a guy who got into a fight with a trio of dudes. The trio decides to ram his front porch with a truck and come out with knives and handguns to rough him up. Problem was that the /k/ommando was boresighting a 20mm in his garage at the time. When the police arrive they find one dazed /k/ommando with busted eardrums, half of a man smeared out across the front yard and no sign of the other two assailants (they ran away).

On my phone so no screencap for you.

>>50506043
>.gif

>>50512550
No, but only because I'm at work and /k/ is blocked at here, and I'll never go to /pol/.

>>50513036
>In Spain its illegal to make fun of cops on facebook.
No, its totally legal.

Meanwhile you have guantanamo, and your cops kill on sight, becuz.... "everyone can have a gun".

>>50513065
I want to know more.

>>50518534
>Your cops kill on sight

Like I know the telephone game is pretty fucking insane when it comes to international news but can this meme die yet

>>50507756
its called FG 9 IIRC

>>50519075
compare how quick a cop draw a gun vs an european one.
They are paranoids.

>>50513275
>Because we can and want to. Why aren't you?
So you can't come up with an actual justification.

>>50515112
I am no stranger to VALYRIAN STEEL

>>50518534
>Meanwhile you have guantanamo
Yes, what of it?
>and your cops kill on sight, becuz
I wish.
>>50519300
And justly so.