Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>50504798
Oh for fucks sake putting this at the top is nearly as bad as the kitsuneposting.

Yeah. Force as an only supernatural type damage flat doesn't make sense.

>>50504824
but force is literally pure magic.

Its not actual concussive force as we think of it, thats covered by the various damage types of Bludgeoning, Slashing, and Piercing.

I can see it bypassing DR but not SR

>>50504798
Sure, it's already been done.

>>50504798
No because force is magic. Lifting a rock and throwing it is not magic. I fail to see how people are having such a hard time with this.

>>50504845
Force passes DR anyways, as its a kind of energy damage.

>>50504798
Not really, no.

Force is just blank 'magic damage'. It has no presence outside of magic.

It somehow skipping past SR by default seems janky.

Soulfire I can see making it work, because that shit's dangerous and involves soulpower, which is on a different level to just plain ol' magic.

Whatever happened to "Accept the ruling and move on"?

Fuck me if I'm ever bringing my games here.

>>50504845
Why would it ever be subject to DR in the first place? It's not physical damage

>>50504835
>>50504863
Vortex guns.

>>50504856
>one time in one 3.5 splatbook

>its not like 3.pf is horridly inconsistent.

>its not like the most famous force damage spell (Magic Missile) is subject to SR

>>50504871
Shitty technology rules that have no bearing on magic and are irrelevant to the campaign in question

>>50504798
I'd kinda like a second opinion on the prospect of going for the usual Sacred Fist/Master of Many Styles idea, but then opting out of Monk to be a Paladin and using a to flurry (preferably longsword to gain Divine Fighting Technique).

Is this worth it, or should I focus on the paladin side of things and maybe pick up an Eldritch Heritage?

>>50504866
It's not a ruling. It'd be a ruling if it was mechanics.

Instead, it's "I don't like the fluff."

>>50504869
Its not.

>>50504866
2hu happened.

>>50504798
A vial of acid bypasses SR. Acid arrow bypasses SR.

A thrown rock bypasses SR. Telekinetic projectile bypasses SR.

A torch bypasses SR. Burning sphere bypasses SR.

There is no mundane equivalent of Force. It exists ONLY in the realm of spells.

>>50504798
Sure, there's other sr-passing magic so I don't see why not.

>>50504871
"A vortex gun looks like a sleek shotgun with three barrels arranged in a triangular formation. When this weapon is fired, the three barrels release a beam of gravitons that spiral around each other to create a 100-foot-long cone-shaped vortex of devastating energy. This energy tears, crushes, and twists everything in its path. "

>DEVASTATING ENERGY

Magic nigga.

>>50504866
Its only one person.

DM just ban 2hu so we can move on.

>>50504866
Bad DMs happened.

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>>50504887
That's still a GM ruling. There are plenty of alternatives, plenty of ways around it. The GM's job is hard enough, you finnicky bastards, get off it already.

>>50504901
Yes but it's not magical. It wouldn't proc Spell resistance.

>>50504887
For an optional rule that the GM was upfront about being subject to GM approval.

>>50504920
Well yes but i can't account for Paizo's shit writing

Presumably a weapon that has to get past SR wouldn't fucking be worth writing mechanically anyways.

Paizo is a shit and inconsistent, the DM made their ruling. No force SR ignoring blasts. For whatever reason it was made, it was made.

It should be accepted.

>>50504901
Didja fucking read that shit?

>gravitons
>This energy tears, crushes, and twists everything in its path

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Tell me about cool intelligent items in your games.

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So! Who all's excited for the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?

>>50504939
My Magus's Black Blade

:^)

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>>50504956
Trying to dig up old conversations to stir shit is pretty pathetic, anon.

>>50504964
>literally the OP of this thread

WDYTYA?

>>50504931
>the DM made their ruling. No force SR ignoring blasts.
No, the GM said it'd be fine if there was a fluff reason behind it.

What's wrong with coming up with a fluff reason?

>>50504971
The GM also said there's no fluffy way immaterial energy like force could be thrown at something

and people have been arguing back with crunch.

>>50504978
Then maybe, JUST MAYBE, the GM shouldn't have said 'Well if you can fluff it, then the blast is fine!'

>>50504978
And there you go something similar to what the Vortex Gun does. You don't assault the foe with magic, you twist and crush the air around them.

>>50504996
the GM didn't say that.

>>50504939
My dragon disciple's robe of arcane heritage. Not because of what it does, but because of how we got it--there was no sorcerer around to craft it, so GM ruled I could use a red dragon's heartstrings to have it weaved.

>>50504999
Which should be bludgeoning damage, but Paizo fucked up.

You're really obvious 2hu fag.

>>50504845
actually all spells do. It turns out even "you conjure a rock and throw it at the guy with your arm" bypasses DR.

>>50505006
That's not him, don't be a retard.

>>50504978
>GM says it's stupid that throwing a ball of literal magic shouldn't be subject to SOME KIND OF RESISTANCE
>people scream that this is unfair

???????????

>>50505001
>2) I'm going to say no. I would prefer to keep blasts that are not Bludgeoning, Piercing, Slashing, or Acid to be SR yes (unless the fluff is "Conjuring ball of X and then shooting/splashing it at them", which these do not seem to be.)
Yes he did.

>>50504949
Me finishing up a major story arc is falling through because one player doesn't have time for the next two weeks and after that I don't have time for two weeks.

The replacement gestalt side-campaign I suggested for the next two weeks isn't happening either because of another guy being busy and not really having time to get into it and I don't really want to run a 2man campaign, even moreso with the two most follower-type players of the group.

Feels bad to be foreverDM but feels even worse when no games despite being the DM.

>>50504939
Memes aside, the Black Blade I gave to the Cavalier I DM for.

He doesn't know it's a Black Blade yet, in or out of character. To him it's just a shiny new Obsidian Longsword.

To his 7 Int character, the new voice in his head couldn't possibly come from his sword. Swords don't talk.

One thing worth noting, just because a spell uses Force doesn't mean it has to deal force DAMAGE. If you somehow hit someone with a wall of force, it'd do bludgeoning damage, not Force.

>>50505010
I seem to recall something about how physical damage from spells runs into DR.

>>50504798

My opinion about spell damage stuff regarding game balance is such:

Spellcastors rarely do as much damage as Warriors can do in a single round, they can just do it often to more than one guy at a time and do it at a distance.

Full Damage Spells
> Xd6s based on level
> allows a Save
> allows SR

Mid Damage Spells
> d6s or d8s per 2 levels
> has something nasty that goes with it
> allows a Save Negate
> allows SR

Poor Damage Spells
> the damage cap is usually already reached by the time you get it, level 5 or 10 or whatever (5d6, 10d6 as Level 6+ spell)
> No Save, or a Save only for secondary effect
> SR or No SR if its got a save.

Shit Damage Spells
> shit damage like a magic missile except its Level 3+
> no save
> no SR
> you take it to the face or maybe it has a ranged touch attack


Because lets face it unavoidable damage is not nice but putting out 1/5 of the amount of damage that other party members can dish out is a smack in the face to that castor.

>>50505046
honestly that point is really unclear from Paizo.

"Whenever damage reduction completely negates the damage from an attack, it also negates most special effects that accompany the attack, such as injury poison, a monk's stunning, and injury-based disease. Damage Reduction does not negate touch attacks, energy damage dealt along with an attack, or energy drains. Nor does it affect poisons or diseases delivered by inhalation, ingestion, or contact.

Attacks that deal no damage because of the target's damage reduction do not disrupt spells.

Spells, spell-like abilities, and energy attacks (even non-magical fire) ignore damage reduction."

Like ??

>>50505052
What is snowball?

>>50505071
1st-level single-target ranged touch. Does reasonable cold damage, and staggers on a failed save.

>>50505066
Yeah, paizo can't write rules for shit.

Or the number of things that say 'weapons'?

Wanna look at what defines an 'attack'?

Hell, that was one that 2hu fucked around with too if I recall.

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>GM just allowed 2hu to take no SR force damage blast

2hu witch hunters BTFO

>>50504949
Run, Fennec Anon. At least until the latest shitstorm subsides.

That said, I am supposed to play tomorrow night and finally finish my character's prologue for the Fluffy Tails game. I have also had a kinda nice game of Golden Sky Stories yesterday. Maybe I'll even finish the sheet for my blinkling maid guy over the weekend!

Life's pretty good, overall.

>>50505082
Also it bypasses SR.

>>50505095
Fuck that, then. I'm not going in if I get accepted. Deal without your futa.

>>50505095
I mean that's great and all, doesn't mean 2hu will get into the game.

>>50505066

"energy attacks, even non-magical fire, ignore damage reduction"

Force damage is a form of energy damage, always has been.

it ignores damage reduction

to gain any reduction against Force damage you must have "Force Resistance X" just like "Fire Resistance X" or cold or electric and so on.

>>50505106
>>50505082
>>50505071

Wasnt aware of that spell, but it sounds like some people making broken shit like the way MTG has evolved ever since Kamigawa

>>50505122
I was never arguing that force damage didn't ignore DR

I was saying that the DR shit was written poorly by Paizo

>>50505113
It doesn't mean 2hu will get accepted in, chillax.

So who the fuck made like the one male character quit HV because the warlock isn't DSP?

>>50505157
the DM doesn't know anything about the avowed system and didn't OK it beforehand, doesn't want to learn it

Nothing wrong with that.

>>50505052
Yeah, see, the problem there is that AoE damage just isn't helpful unless we're talking major amounts of it. Monsters that can be cleared out in a single Fireball are highly unlikely to be a threat to the party at any point in the game where you *have* a fireball, and monsters that can't are still going to be functioning at 3/4, 1/2, or even 1/4 HP just as they would at full HP. It's not useful compared to focusing down a target or applying status effects that take an enemy out of the fight on the spot.

And I mean, it's not as if blasters aren't broke as shit in Pathfinder, but they're that way because someone printed a feat to turn blasting spells into save or loses targeting the on-average lowest monster save AND printed a feat that gives you that feat for free and applies it for free. What the fuck, Paizo?

>>50505113

Speaking as Sersheon's player here, fuck are you on about, the futa's still in.

>>50505113
>going on the internet and telling lies.

>>50505113
>person who submitted the futa tiefling is in an IRC with me right now
>is saying they don't give a fuck and haven't posted on 4chan for like hours

I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>50505157
There's still a futa anon

>>50505192
>a feat to turn blasting spells into save or loses targeting the on-average lowest monster save AND printed a feat that gives you that feat for free and applies it for free. What the fuck, Paizo?
I assume you're talking about Dazing spell, but what are the other feats you're talking about?

>>50505194
Someone is probably trying to make people hate 2hu more. Yes, there are cunts like that.

>>50505113
Jesus christ 2hu please stop.

>>50505224
Why though? Is it that one dude that had a crush on him or something?

>>50505232
>>50505224
>>50505236
who knows

Lets drop it

the DM has ruled and its over.

>>50505253
I'm not playing in HV if 2hu gets to have a no-SR force blast.

That's total bullshit.

>>50505265
you're not playing in HV anyways.

There's only one futa tiefling app and the person is literally on IRC right now

And 2hu may not even get in

So?????????

>>50505277
I'm not the futa.

Mark my words, 2hu will fucking ruin this game.

>>50505286
ok.

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>>50504949
Game night's tomorrow, time for me to get knocked out in the coming battle and likely die painfully.

I mean, this'll be like the sixth time I've been put into the negatives.

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>>50505198

:D

>>50505221
Sacred Geometry, I believe.

And yeah it is for free because after a certain point, you mathematically can't fail.

>>50505298
DELETE THIS.

>>50505302
What motherfucker doesn't ban sacred geometry.

>>50505236
Now that's something new.

>>50505286
witch-hunt anon you're not even playing.

>>50505298

Oooohhh...
well son thats what you get for taking a shit Con score

Even the Wizards I play get 14+ Con because I know thats 2xHD worth of hit points I get

So that way -14 hit points is actually 6 hit points, which means I get my spell or I can run instead of being dead

If I have to bomb any stats its securely the one that I do not use. Everybody uses Con.

>>50505351
It makes sense, really. Adventurers are hardy folk.

That, or they don't last long.

>>50505345
The GM is a fucking imbecile for even entertaining 2hu.

>>50505378
witch-hunt anon nobody cares

go witch-hunt DHB or something.

>>50505298
Real spoiler image for once. Nice. Probably most unexpected part of the whole series.

>>50505316

You shouldn't have to ban shit.

That means the game designers aren't doing their job and they're just trolling except in book form.

Thats what I like about some multi-setting systems like BESM and gurps, they usually get the balance down pat because if there's anything broken in it, its gonna become a major thing.


>>50505370

That or they cost the party a heap ton of resources and they lose levels because they keep having to get raised from the dead.

i dunno maybe you can roleplay it as an efficient way to become a Ghost and "to help these people along" but then whenever other people leave the game or they die off the DM has a reason to securely kill you off too

Also aint gonna work with a cleric in the group (and which group dont have one) because

> you're a ghost
> you should be in heaven
> my heaven to be exact

>>50505316
Dazing Spell is still reaaaaaaaal fuckin' broken if you don't use Sacred Geometry, between Fireball still being able to tag things that are a challenge at level 20 more often than not(no really look up the average saves on CR20-22 stuff), the dozens of spells that hit an opponent multiple times per cast(not magic missile, stuff like ball lightning), or the absolute horseshit that is Meteor Swarming someone's face 4 times with a metamagic rod because you KNOW they're not saving 4 separate times at -4 against that.

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>>50505298
Does your character's lover have another girl waiting for you to be out of the picture, to make her move after a respectful grieving period just like her mother did for her father?

GM for HV if you're here what do you think about futa characters?

>>50505441
there's literally one that applied already

>>50505351
I've got 14 CON, that's not the issue.

Rather, I have a tendency to roll incredibly poorly, which extends to the entire party. 32 point buy can't save you from bad rolls.

Also my GM is probably in this thread.

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>>50505441
GM for HV if you're here what do you think about trap characters?

>>50505418
Isn't the average good save for a monser at 20 like 21 or something?

What do end game player DC's look like? I thought a lot of stuff was just "autopass" at that point.

>>50505421
Oh, no.

See, Pyrrha at least lasted long enough to fall in love.

>>50505421
Is that anal?

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>>50505305
No.

>>50505461
If it makes you feel better, I have a similar problem.

People just keep making their saves against pretty much everything I do. It's depressing.

Like, yeah! Gonna curse you!

... oh.

Gonna make your skin fall off!

... oh.

Gonna... do that fucking save-or-die I took like a fucking moron.

... Oh it worked. Yaaaaaaaaaay...

>>50505478
Saves can be between 30 and 50 I think.

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>>50505461
>mfw when i'm your GM

its not my fault you attract crits.

>>50505441
Depends on the execution. I am not inherently against them. Nor am I against them existing despite the ready availability of sex change magic in Golarion - can't flip the coin when both sides are heads, magic is a very specific thing to work with, after all.

>>50505463
Depends on the execution. I'm not inherently against them. Though it begs the question "why are they a trap when sex change magic exists?"

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>>50505513
I KNOW

IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING

Everybody's set for tomorrow, right? I'll check over you-know-where, too.

>>50505533
Should be

>>50505298

Sounds like you need a better healer.

>>50505529
GM for HV if you're here why in the flying fuck are you even entertaining 2hu and not banning him for being an autistic asshole?

>>50505418

Maybe but alot of high level shit ive run into has Fire Resistance out the ass or immunity to it.

So fireballs and meteor swarms they dont really care about (yeahhh... they get their energy resistance against each hit, roll your meteor swarm damage and subtract 120 from the final amount). The 2d6 bludgeoning is dinky nothing shit.

Its some guy using a Gauntlet of Lead Blades along with an oversized DoDachi and power attack... thats what gets the job done and makes you seem worthless as a castor
> reliably causing like 80 fucking damage per swing
> thats 80 damage without any energy resistance crap because its not energy

So more or less I was just trying to debuff shit so itd be easier to kill things.

>>50505478
Your mistake is assuming that Reflex is a good save even half as frequently as the other two, and that's before the fact that the number of monsters with a greater-than-Medium size increases as CR increases. The average Reflex save at CR 20 is *16*, as is CR 21 and 22 - and an evoker Wizard who had an 18 post-racial and who isn't pulling any major cheese is toting a DC 27 Fireball.

>>50505157
It doesn't matter. I forgot they weren't the same company anymore, it's on me.

No choice but to scrap the entire character since background was built off it, and with 32 entries nothing I could come up with good 'nuff make it in.

>>50505560
witchunt anon go home

>>50505565
It's not about the damage, the damage is shit and will always be shit and it's one of the reasons Paizo FAILED at making it not shit. It's about the fact that getting hit with a fireball and failing a save stuns you for 3 rounds. That's a death sentence against all but the literal worst PC parties.

>>50505572
There's not 32 entries dude there's like, way less than that.

>>50505566
>16 reflex
So they pass on an 11 before evasion, SR, resistance, etc come into account?

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>>50505529
>Though it begs the question "why are they a trap when sex change magic exists?"
What if he just likes feeling pretty but doesn't want to go THAT far with a sex change?

>>50505560
Because we're all autistic assholes here, Anon.

>>50505560
If a bit of autism was all it took to get banned none of us would BE here.

>>50505556
Funny you should mention that.

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Lets steer discussion to something else.

There's this magic item in the Diviner's Handbook, that I can't seem to figure out. Its called the Foci of the Diviner, and the "Scaling" ability has me thoroughly confused as to how this works, what the levels mean, and the prices next to the level are for.

Can someone else help me decipher this, because I need to know since I'm going to give it to the character I'm making for RotJR

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>>50505157
>the warlock isn't DSP
And thank fuck for that.
>WOOOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY ELDRITCH BLAST MISSED
>I'M ROLLING DICE, I'M ROLLING DICE AND NOTHING IS HAPPENING

>>50505610
Sure, that's fair.

>>50505556
There's a story about that

But it ends with 'the party now got a wand of clw much earlier than they would normally'

>>50505643
fucking hell i love DSP memes.

>>50505491

Of course it's anal, how else is a man supposed to penetrate a woman from behind?

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>>50505647
Great! Now one more thing, is the Spellburst Savant okay?

>>50505572
Character discussion has some discussion in it. There are however many applicants: Exactly half that much: 16 (guessing yu're the deleted one would've been 17)

>>50505635
>>50505651

I love stories. Especially greentext ones.

>>50505610
>What if he just likes feeling pretty but doesn't want to go THAT far with a sex change?
Then it wouldn't be a trap since they would have no reason to identify as a girl, and instead would just consider themselves, and make it clear, that they are a bloke in a dress

>>50505669
I've actually read that! And yeah, I like that class.

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>>50505680
That's the best kind of trap!

>>50505675
I'd love to, but I have no real idea where the heck he went.

>>50505620

I'm not autistic though, I'm just an idiot.

An idiot that can't participate in half the discussions here because I don't fucking care about One Weird Trick to improve your spells or something.

>>50505675
its not a very long story

>We had an oradin
>shit happened to him
>had to drop out
>nobody else could heal cause we had an oradin
>fuck

>>50505688
Cool.

Let's see...

I hate to ask it, but how young are you willing to go on the shota scale?

Like, can I be a 12 year old trap Spellburst Savant || Myrmidon?

>>50505593
Against a third level spell.

That, if it connects, will daze you for 3 rounds, and literally only one feature in the entire game protects against daze and it's tied to a specific monster. If you were to cheese it with metamagic rods and Meteor Swarm, you'd have to make anywhere from one to four separate saves at DC 37 to not be dazed for 9 rounds.

>>50505680
That's what I assume he was going for, anon, and one of the reasons why I'm okay with it. Feminine dude in ladies clothes, identifying as a dude even while eschewing gender norms is just fine.

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>>50505664
Personally, I prefer the memes of other internet gaming e-celebs.
Know what I mean?

>>50505638
Here you go.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/scaling-magic-items

It's one of these.

>>50505610
Well, is he okay with still being treated like a lady? Like getting pinned to the bed?

>>50505695
>>50505700

Oradins are fun too! Im sorry he dropped.

What campaign is it?

>>50505754
a gestalt rise of the runelords campaign, we've got enough players still, they just were expecting to have healing and didn't have it anymore

>>50505735

Pat would play a ZweiSent every time so he could drop that shield.

>>50505680
Reasonable people? In my /pfg/? That said, "trap" is pretty much synonymous to "guy looks like a girl" by now.

>>50505669
>dog/wolf maid picture
>playing Spellburst Savant
Are you me? Remember, there was that pretty nice Cha-based archetype for SS with flavourful tricks like your own extradminesional space!

>>50505710
No. HV game is an 18+ game for 18+ people. Stuff like that is not cool man. All characters portrayed must be at or above their race's age of adulthood.

>>50505205
>>50505277
>IRC
Since when? And where?

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>>50505781
>All characters portrayed must be at or above their race's age of adulthood.

Friendly reminder that age of adulthood in Golarion is 15 for humans.

>>50505800
irc.rizon.net
#RotJR

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>>50505770
Plus he's go for Titanic Fullplate and an Impact Greatsword so he can be HUUUUUUGE
Doesn't matter if his speed is now really slow, as long as he's huge!

>>50505638
C'mon man there's a sidebar on scaling magic items right there on the page.

>>50505811
stop

>>50505767

Hmm weird. That is one of the better campaigns too.

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/

Tell me about your homebrews

>>50505740
Ah, I see. So since I'm starting at level 3, i'll buy it for its base price, then next level and every few therafter it gets more powerful and cooler. Sounds perfect, and I get to save money!

>>50505833
Wow, I must be blind, I didn't notice that. No wonder I need this sphere.
Though to be fair, I usually just ignore most sidebars anyway

>>50505844
he had personal reasons to drop out, nothing to do with the campaign.

>>50505811
Yeah, that's a good way to not get in.

>>50505848
There's a lot of them, and they are all kinda meh.
More are abandoned projects that I scrapped and left to collect dust when I realized they were super autistic.

>>50505858
Well, not quite. By being scaling, the point is that the increased number is still supposed to count against your WBL.

It's an odd little system if some people are using it and some aren't. Best read the SRD page a bit closer and ask the DM.

>>50505848

Not really a homebrew but I was thinking of making a campaign. I liked the new planes of power book and I have been writing a bit about restoring the Good Elemental Lords to their rightful place. I wanted to copy Paizos format of 5 or 6 books but the Planes are kind of a high level thing and I was not sure how to implement it.

>>50505892
If you ran it, I'd definitely play in it.

>>50505848
Been fiddling with tech a lil.

Current thinking is that most things have two power ratings. One that's the power cost, and the other is a point where if you have ENOUGH power, it doesn't cost anything.

So like, if a blaster has a cost of 1, but a sustain of like 10, then you could fire it forever as long as you had that 10 energy. But then you ALSO couldn't use that same 10 energy to sustain another blaster, you'd need 20 available. If you can't sustain a thing, it uses its cost instead.

>>50504939
I had a paladin that was slowly creating a codex on demons and how to fight them (warcraft inspired, almost directly from the burning crusade cinematic) with metal pages and a giant metal chain. It even had some Spells/day in it almost like a staff.

Eventually it started to become sentient and it would either slowly hum mantras, or recite "universal" laws. When it was asked it would flip to certain pages to identify the characteristics of extraplanars (mostly demons). It didn't particularly like being quiet; and it loved to learn about new laws from certain areas - it could be judgemental about the morality of those laws though.

>>50505909

Woohoo! Got one. I just need to figure it out haha.

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>>50505848
I really, really, really want some feedback and suggestions for my homebrews. Otherwise I can't improve without any criticisms and ideas.

Empyreus: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xQMlB45-UFEWCB2ffqoBUMhR-t4afSXLk29fgTJNVyw/edit?usp=sharing

Avatar: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10dEgLazR1i9O9Cs0z-6Znw96ocJPu3CVGuEOkCEfqLw/edit?usp=sharing

>>50504949
No plans. But I think your fennecs are cute. Plz keep posting them.

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>>50505872
What, is adulthood strictly 18+ over in your Golarion?

>>50505402
Not really. If you understand the character influences at all.

Pyrrha as in Pyrrhic victories. Pyrrha also as in the red headed girl that Achilles' mother dressed him up as to hopefully avoid his fate of dying in combat. He could have either lived a long and fulfilling life, but no one would remember his name, or he'd die young and childless if he participated in the trojan war, but his name would be remembered throughout history

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>>50504949
I was hoping to run a Kingdom Builder camapign set during a world war between two great kingdoms, with the party smack in the middle.

But my request for a schedule change at work was denied so I can't host a campaign.

I'll try again next year.

Sorry to those who joined in my roll20 group.

>>50505643
DSP has said they're planning their own warlock.

I don't really understand your post though.

Ok, I'm brand new to Pathfinder Society and haven't been keeping up with the fluff I guess because now there's some kind of Osyran scarab faction that uses gems that have ancient memories?

I mean my first reaction is other than muh history fetish why are the Pathfinders working with essentially pod people? I guess it adds nuance that the Society isn't strictly good, but it just seems weird

>>50505839
>>50505872
Not that guy you replied to, but doesn't most adventure stories begin when the fledgling youth grows up to become a hero?

>>50506046
>Pathfinder Society
You are in the wrong place anon-kun.

>>50505529
There are those who, despite being more comfortable in the clothing of the opposite gender, and even calling themselves one, don't want to biologically become one.

>>50505858
Just remember that each time the item advances, it sort've decreases your WBL by the price listed (according to the Scaling Item rules).

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>>50505848
Jels. Ooze/slime-kin race.

People said they were boring.

my sadness is very big

>>50506056
In a traditional sense, yes - some adventurers begin when they're old enough to leave the nest and carve their own paths.

Too bad this is /pfg/ - we roll young characters to satiate our fetishes

>>50505992

It's the simple issue of getting banned by a moderator that notices the tavern girl getting cocksleeved by the resident hulk is in her teens.

>>50506046
The Society isn't even barely good.

It's comprised mostly of assholes. Assholes doing asshole things to benefit their asshole selves and asshole friends.

>>50506081
Yeah, I just read.
I guess this sucker will cost me 450gp.
Still worth it though, especially since I'm paying essentially nothing on weapons and armor

>>50506094
in a historical sense, it makes helluva lot of sense that most tavern wenches are the daughters of the innkeeper.

Why get hired help when he can just get his kids to work free?

>>50506044
Just google DSP Experiences and knock yourself out.

>>50506127
Ah, I see. I was super confused.

>>50505848
I tried to convert the Summoner to Psionics; Astral Constructs/Juggernaut instead of Summon Monster/Gate, an aegis-like companion instead of an Eidolon, and a handful of thematic psi-likes instead of casting, to bring it down a tier.

/pfg/ hated it, so I binned it. It does live on in spirit tho.

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>>50505298
I'm still very sad about this. Penny and Pyrrha were bestbutts, Yang is only third bestbutt, She looks good in a ponytail, but twintails yang is bestyang.

>>50506044
DSP stands for Darksyde Phil, an internet 'gamer' well known for blaming his mental handicaps on the games he plays. For example, in fighting games, which he claims are his specialty, he blames his inability to block on time on the game's netcode, often with frequent cries of "I WAS BLOCKING THAT!" Between people who've honestly glued their lips to his asshole and people who enjoy watching the dancing monkey scream he's managed to keep himself in business.

>>50506143
We didn't hate it. The Aegis already has an archetype for your concept.

>>50506063
Pathfinder general right?

>>50506098
And yet I can't have an evil PC for Society.

>>50505157
>wanting someone to play the overpowered piece of shit written by a tranny

Good fucking riddance.

>>50506167
>warlocks are overpowered
CoDZilla detected.

>>50506163
The implication is that /pfg/ hates Pathfinder Society

>>50506167
Don't cut yourself on that edge, bruh.

>>50506125

Oh no, I'm not arguing against the idea that the tavern wench is probably a horny teen, I'm saying it's totally unacceptable to play around with that kind of "accuracy" on goddamn public websites.

If the DM wants to include stuff like that, take it to an IRC.

>>50506148
the was literally the most painful thing i've ever watched ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIY5ya3wYDk

>>50505992
For this game, an explicitly lewd game taking influence from 80s exploitation film? Yes.

>>50506056
This is true, but please see above for context.

>>50506094
This is also a contributing factor.

>>50505157
dw sources say there are two more futas hidden amongst the female applicants

>>50506179
Hey I can't blame them from what I've experienced so far. I'm just doing it because I moved 3000 miles to a new city and basically have no gaming connections. So I'm just trying to find any excuse to roll some dice.

>>50506197
>This is true, but please see above for context.
Had to link back to his older posts. Yeah, fuck that guy.

>>50506167
>Warlocks
>Overpowered

>Implying Forrest isn't superior at class class design than the trannies and tumbltards at Paizo
Forrest is our tranny, and at least he actually makes good content that isn't a SJW plug like certain 1pp writers. Fuck off dicknugget

>>50506188
Dude. Dude. In his Persona 3 (might have been 4) playthrough he fails to enter his name in the start screen. And then says the game is stupid.

It's too late. Just enjoy the ride.

My players want to see Mythic happen when they hit level 20, but they're only level 5 right now.

I had an idea of giving them weapons that would secretly be legendary weapons, but until they ascend, they'd just be regular weapons to them.

Any ideas on how to prevent them from just tossing these weapons away (I won't STOP them but I'd like to keep it from happening)?

>>50505848
Been a while since I did anything with it really, but Road Rumble is a homebrew discipline for fistpunchers.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T6SL20wo1p98czHNie7QPvyMk1r9VeRyxmEnAOk0xmY/edit

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>>50506197
Do Roll20 mods monitor games for lewdness?

What the hell? I thought lewd games were allowed on Roll20?

>>50506239
He made an unboxing video where he doesn't unbox the game. I don't think it's possible to top that.

>>50506251
Use epic rules instead.

>>50506044
>>50506148
He likes to claim that he's a "professional gamer" for winning one match against some actually good guy in a 'tournament' on some fucking retarded buggy dreamcast edition of a fighting game that no one played, using literally the cheesiest most broken character in that edition.

He gets his shit handed to him by everyone in the fighting game community quite frequently and so often that he's a total fucking joke.

That isn't even mentioning his complete fucking inability to succeed at like any other game because he won't stop to do shit like read tutorials. I mean metal gear solid completely fucking broke him and I beat that game at age 12 when I barely knew what I was fucking doing with most games. seriously, I thought I was actually pretty good at most games up until I was like, 18, which is when I stopped being total garbage and started engaging critical thinking skills. A love for final fantasy tactics and its battle mechanics guide really helped.

>>50506257
Not at all. Roll20 is a platform for games. The DM is expected to moderated his group, hence why he has DM tools to mute players or kick players or edit posts.

>>50506265
That's the stuff where you need double the last level's EXP, right?

>>50506257

Lewd games are allowed, but the scope of a Roll20 DM's power of observation are too ambiguous to make it worth risking your profile for fucking a fourteen year old when an eighteen year old is just as good.

It's one of the golden rules of ERP, anon.

>>50506266
Also his complete lack of editing skills, as his videos are just random chunks thrown up without any kind of effort.

Also just how he's a huge manchild in general.

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>>50506197
>For this game, an explicitly lewd game taking influence from 80s exploitation film? Yes.

Uh, isn't the age of consent, like, 16-17 in some states?

>>50506283
its from 3.5, its basically you can take class levels even above 20

>>50506335
Hmm.

Might do it instead of Mythic, but I'll come to that road in the future.

>>50506314
It's 15 all across Canada, too.

>>50506359
Canada knows whats up.

>>50506314

In the US AoC laws vary from 14 to 18 depending on the state.

>>50506357
I mean they're both garbage but Mythic is intended to be taken as you level up, while epic is designed to be used beyond 20th level

Epic is better for your purposes.

>>50506359
15 if the person that they're with is within 4 years of their age... and if they were in a relationship prior to that person becoming an adult.

It gets really kooky really quick.

>>50506396
I see.

I like the idea of legendary weapons, but I don't know what a good level is to introduce mythic for it to be somewhat fun but not make it so they can streamroll everything.

>>50506433
you could probably still use legendary weapons, infact i suggest introducing them now, and just use them, make them customizeable awesome pieces of equipment for your players that grow in power with them

Level 5 is a good time to introduce that.

>>50506470
That could work.

I'd just need to figure out when they would be able to further empower their weapons.

Specific levels? After certain milestones? I'll work something out.

>>50506487
look up automatic bonus progression it might be ok to roughly base it off of it

>>50506487
compare to Soulknife probably?

>>50506520
Good idea, I"ll work on figuring out what kind of bonuses their weapons will gain, and when.

>>50506557
Explain, please?

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>>50505848
Working on a class called a Totemist.

He begins play with a special dagger called an Athame that works as his arcane focus.
He can drop Totems on the ground to augment spells, weaken enemies, boost allies, etc.
He can also carve eyes, ears or lips, etc. on a solid structure like walls and trees to act as a scrying focus.
He can also imprint tattoos on allies, granting them the animus of the totemic spirits.
He can use his athame to draw the blood of a recently slain creature and then use it as part of his tattoo making process to grant his allies some of that creature's special ability or defense.

>>50505848
Not really working it just a few thoughts here and there but a class based on a deathknight(not wow)

>>50506084
I'll read it and give commentary/suggestions if you'd like.

>>50506592
doesn't the AntiPali archetype already have a deathknight?

My DM decided to switch us to Pathfinder partway through a campaign, and, holy shit, how do you people live like this? Pathfinder bards are trash. Pathfinder rogues are trash. Pathfinder warlocks.. don't exist. Spellcasting is obnoxious. Half of the shit anyone should just be able to DO costs a feat. I legitimately don't understand what the draw of this mess is.

>>50506565
Soulknife is DSP Psionic class that uses a mentally created magical weapon that at top levels is effectively a +9, if the legendary weapon matches that progression roughly it should be good

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/classes/soulknife

>>50506608
did you come from 5e or something

>>50506607
yes, it does.

Knight of the Sepulcher

>>50506615
Ah, I see now.

Makes sense, I'll have it gain bonuses on a similar progression while they gain the ability to customize its abilities.

>>50506608
>Pathfinder bards are trash.
If by that you mean the most balanced class in the game, yes. Not its fault that it's up against the literal most powerful class in 5E.
>Pathfinder rogues are trash.
True fact. Blame Jason Bulmahn.
>Pathfinder warlocks.. don't exist.
The 3.5 Warlock does, but it doesn't use the same gimmick the 5E Warlock does, and good for it because it's fucking stupid.

>>50506599
http://pastebin.com/TE9UAeqs

They're basically supposed to be sort of like aasimar, tieflings, planetouched (slyphs / oreads / etc), dhampir, skinwalker, etc etc etc equivalents to oozes/slimes.

They're not finished, but they're most of the way there. Also quoles are shit.

Some people have suggested that they need another trait or something to make them 'unique' (I've been considering minor fortification). I'd be happy to hear about any potential racial traits.

I should probably mention that most like to disguise themselves as humans or half elves when they're not looking for attention.

>>50506652
>implying bards are the most balanced class in PF
>aegis, alchemist, occultist laughing smugly dot jpenguin

>>50506694
Bard is at least top 3. They're capable of being good at anything but they need to specialize in that thing in particular and the bard toolkit keeps them useful outside of it. That's pretty much the definition of a T3 class.

>>50506683
So.. they're playable Apallies?

>>50506710
Isn't Forrest writing those too? You'd better hurry and finish them, anon, don't get beaten by the backup princess.

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>>50505680
Sounds about right, yeah.

>>50506710
No. They're people with a touch of ooze somewhere in their ancestry.

Imagine a regular human being. Then make them slightly malleable (in that they can squeeze slightly, and expand certain areas slightly). They can fit through certain places because they don't have bones. That is the limit of their 'ooze' nature. They're not slimegirls or anything.

Reminder that the best random race to come from this thread is the Minos, because they're simple but effective

>>50506767
Minos? What?

>>50506756
So infinite anal circumference? OP race confirmed.

>>50506608
For the record, I felt mostly the same way about 5E. How the fuck am I expected to have fun playing the Battlemaster when it's a -10/10 version of not one, not two, but three good classes? Why can't a top of the line Fighter blow up a dangerous enemy in 2 rounds by himself without exhausting every single resource he's got for the next hour, at minimum? Why did spellcasters crib the 3.5 psionics augment system and make it awkward and annoying to use? Why are Rogues less interesting than most of the Rogue replacement classes from 3.5? Why are Eldritch Knights total shit at being what the game claims them to be? Why would you roll damage back to near AD&D levels but leave HP alone when this exact issue made me quit playing 4E in a huff when it came out? At least 4E had a fucking justification for it and fixed it after enough people complained!

>>50506783
Half-minotaur cow people, + str coon - int and powerful build plus a gore i think

>>50506803
.. +str +con herp

>>50506803
Holy shit that's exactly what I've been looking for. Do you have a link?

>>50506683
Gimme a few to read over it and form an opinion. Quoles are indeed shit, though.

I've got a homebrew prestige class if you'd like to look over it while I read your own homebrew:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BRL7sAgZYFChx7IHVojbRKk5lo7VqZOjIgPzt14Zj_0/edit?usp=sharing

>>50506790
They're not amorphous, they have a defined consistent shape... it's just slightly more fluid than a regular race. I mean the one that I got to play liked to swallow her food whole because she thought chewing was too much work, unless something was particularly tasty. She had teeth but usually just gulped down things like pears and apples

I mean I'll answer the question even though it's not exactly appropriate Casually a jel could maybe get anal circumference up to about 2 or 3 inches. With a bit of practice maybe 6.

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>>50506825
I wrote it but sure i'll post it up, just remember it was intended for a non golarion setting, and was a WIP when i put this project on hold for other work stuff.

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>>50506783
Someone was going to post it, might as well be me.

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>>50506901

>>50506826
I have a kind of hard time evaluating that. I mean I understand it's supposed to be fairly regular gestalty stuff but uh... IDK.

So how does versatile performance work exactly? Like in character what am I doing?

>>50506886
We need Draph homebrew.

>>50506683
>>50506826

Alright, so they're pretty solid mechanically. I think most people assumed that they were supposed to be slimegirls so they expected something more unique and over-the-top mechanically, like being actually amorphous.

It fits Paizo's theme of player races being "human, but ____" which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I can see why most people were calling it boring, though, since homebrew usually breaks the mold of Paizo's design philosophy.

It's a fine race with their limited squeezing ability and stat array, but doesn't have much that would hook a player into wanting to play one as opposed to something else. Have you considered giving them a spell-like ability or two to reflect how they were magically created to be assassins? The Blend and Squeeze spells fit the bill.

>>50506956
Depends on which performance you use senpai

>>50504798
Right, so, what are the basic things to keep in mind when porting a class from 3.5 to PF?

>>50506986
there's a free pdf put out there by paizo for it

which applicant gives the best head?

>>50506956
Just imagine a related Disney number playing in your character's head while you do something with it.

>>50506975
Let's say string or anything involving an instrument vs something like comedy or oratory which involves talking.

>>50506986
Skills are different, Concentration is basically a CL check now, BAB is tied to HD, classes generally want at least one feature per level, oh yeah, and touch attacks can't benefit from Power Attack or Deadly Aim unless the source explicitly says they can(this tripped me up when converting some of ToB).

I've done some race brewing in the past. Most of 'em are still works in progress, but ones I'd be happy to call done...

Sphinxes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y7eoXhQWU9TxBou4VNE0bhjoxHSbdiXobk3rv59p8Rw/edit?usp=sharing

Baers, the vaguely Scottish bearpeople, with a hint of Canada.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11ejfvktpUYo9zwLURUqr3fJdJQTxrcxPSNwtjxUe9lY/edit?usp=sharing

Tortara, the Pacific Islander-esque turtle-tortoise-tuatara people
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QxS6VxGud65nAoKoO5bgJPD-x099zBOmMOlrzdE9gHk/edit?usp=sharing

>>50507002
to what

>>50507038
ur pick

>>50507017
You play your instrument so well that it speaks to their soul so no words are necessary.

Performances that involve talking basically let you invoke clever wordplay to simulate other skills.

Dance is weird.

>>50506959
I wanted to err on the side of caution when I first made them so they weren't "overpowered".

Limited compression is already functionally a permanent squeeze spell, albiet with a +8 bonus on escape artists (I treated it like a movement form). Maybe a spell like, like disguise self or fabricate disguise could work?

>>50507075
useless

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>>50507034
>motherfucking Sphinxes
>tfw my GM would never allow this in any sort of game

Why is life so unfair, lads? Why don't we just fucking kill ourselves, what's the point?

This is kinda hitting a sore spot given what happened earlier in the thread but would a custom Force blast that doesn't cost a spell point, just straight damage/no knocking something prone, be bullshit?

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>>50507095
Because Death is less fair and more boring. No matter who turns out to be right about the other side, every one of us in this thread is going to some kind of Hell or another.

>>50507108
eh...

Its probably alright but its on the strong side

>>50507034
I like Tortara, they are neat.

Lemme have a look at those there sphinxes, those sound interesting.

I realize this is a dumb question but I'm asking it anyways.

What are some examples in Real Life or in Media of people/characters with an Ability Score at 14-16? For all Ability scores. I ask 14-16 because 18 is some Ubermensch tier shit.

>>50507108
Maaaaaaaaybe.

If you knocked the damage down to d4s, then I'd personally okay it, most likely.

>>50507174
>What are some examples in Real Life or in Media of people/characters with an Ability Score at 14-16?

Teddy Roosevelt had 16 Constitution.

Jaime Lannister has 14 Charisma.

>>50507180
thats probably what i'd do as well

>>50507174
Well I mean Morgan Freeman's probably like, at 20 Cha by now, what with his age bonuses.

>>50507193
level 20 guy with a comforting voice desu.

>>50507242
Nah, probably just 2 or 3. Decent Charisma and generally a cool dude.

>>50507242
Nah, doesn't even have to be level 20.

He's just Morgan Freeman.

>>50507034
Sphinxes seem fine but the main issue is answering the question of "Why would a Sphinx go adventuring, especially with a party?"

Though I guess a bit of imagination would help with that.

>>50507260
no i mean his class is literally 'guy with a comforting voice'

The only class abilities are things that make his voice more comforting and freckles.

>>50507272
Come out of boredom, stay for your new friends.

>>50507174
According to pathfinder's (and 3.5 by extension) carrying capacity rules this guy has 22 or 23 strength based off how much he can lift off the ground: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vowTsCB3umM

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/alignment-description/carrying-capacity

>>50507272
It's a little easier if you think of them as an actual species, rather than one of those monsters that just seems to exist.

>>50507273
He's a Bard who traded out all his other performances to be able to do Fascinate indefinitely.

>>50507188
Thanks.

What would Jaime's ability score lineup be like actually? Moderate Strength, pretty high Dex, moderate Con, low mental stats?

>>50507307
real high perform oratary

>>50507310

Assuming you want something playable, I'd give him 16-16-14-10-8-16.

Is Abrogail Thrune II known to have any younger brothers?

>>50507320
Also good.

Maybe level 6, so he can have Versatile Performance in both Oratory and Act.

Everyone wants to listen to and believe Morgan Freeman!

>>50507351

None confirmed or denied, however I would like to point out House Thrune has *many* branches, you could easily be a cousin.

>>50507335
Eh, not really looking for Playable, but that's a good enough lineup for me. Thanks mate.

I've never really touched Spheres before... I do know the base Armorist is apparently utter shit, but are any of the archetypes for it good?

And is there a way to recover SP or bypass the need to use it? I want to minimize bookkeeping.

>>50506956
The idea is that you're realizing your time spent learning Perform applies lessons to regular life too. Like Miyagi making Daniel do menial chores to learn kung-fu.

Like "hey, if I speak with the emotion-inducing cadences I learned for my piano playing, people like/dislike me more!" or "the graceful movements I practised for the Taldane Handstand-Tumble Waltz can also be used to dodge around an asshole trying to hit me with a sword!"

I have a question about sphere alteration.
>The target gains the listed number of limbs and loses all others. The target loses any extraordinary or supernatural abilities, natural attacks, and movement types dependent on their original form (darkvision, scent, wings, claws, etc.)
So does this include other sphere casting abilities and stuff like rage?

>>50507592
probably

Is mounted archery viable for a size small creature?

>>50507741
yes

>>50507755
Cool. Halfling wolf riding bowguy is on his way.

GREGOR POSTER YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD

10/10 God Tier Character

>>50507543
You can take Drawbacks to increase max SP.
Luckily though, once you get the right Bound Equipment and Arsenal Tricks (like Shifting Weapon) you will almost never your your Summon Equipment save for special occasions.

Also, as for Archetypes, the one in the Telekinesis Handbook might be good, also the Blaster from the Destruction Handbook has some decent damage potential. Also the Nature Handbook introduced some of the better Arsenal Tricks. Also one of the Archetypes in the Creation Playtest might be cool, since instead of summoning weapons you just fill the battlefield with them UBW style.

Also, one of the few niches that Base Armorists can achieve is being able potentially get Free Fullplate and have almost no ACP by 6th level.

>>50507592
No, it doesn't unless they took Somatic Casting or some similar drawback.
Also Rage is not dependent on limb or movement type, it is purely a stat adjustment. You can still use them.
You could also theoretically still use a good number of Maneuvers while shapeshifted as long as your form has limbs and a natural attack.

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>>50507975
Good. Didn't notice the "dependent" bit. Now on to the other question.

How big of a dick move is it to take Beast Soul and Lycanthropy for transformation I want and the lingering talent? Elemental if it matters. Like it's a good combo, but if feels...scummy.

>>50508076
It's fine, don't worry about it.

How the fuck does one of the more recent characters posted for ROTJR even work

Avowed (Dragon) | Dragon Disciple? isn't DD a PrC? what the fuck is this? And this backstory, did she prostitute herself across the inner sea?

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>>50508200
Are Prestige Classes not allowed or something?

>>50508200
The guy is using a base class called DD that the DM approved.

>>50508200

>Did she prostitute herself across the Inner Sea?

Absolutely, that paragraph all but spells out she traveled across Avistan on her knees or on her back.

>>50508200
>isn't DD a PrC? what the fuck is this?
It's Purple Duck's DD Prestige Archetype. He got permission to use it.

>did she prostitute herself across the inner sea?
Are you surprised? If you hadn't noticed this is the same guy who made the bimbo paladin.

>>50508252
But bimbo paladin allows the konosuba party anon

Where can I read more about the Porphyra setting? If anyone else has looked into it, is it any good?

>>50508329
The fuck is a konosuba party?

>>50508336
It consists of

1. A useless, greedy, bitchy healer/support
2. A somewhat competent straight man, but also a perv.
3. A chuuni as fuck mage, ideally one that blasts.
4. A masochistic paladin

>>50508240
>>50508252

Speaking as the author, here; while I am a pervert, yes, no, she did not prostitute herself across the inner sea. She made use of the fact that you can use Perform to make money, and has two complimentary perform skills.

I will admit I didn't spell it out in detail mostly to see if anyone made that assumption about it, though, because the idea amused me.

>>50508360
So who fits this in RotJR?

>>50508360
A few threads ago, someone showed how to play Megumin.

I wish I understood how Spheres of Power works.

>>50508412
Honestly i need to look closer but

1. No idea
2. No idea
3. The Ratgirl
4. The Bimbo Paladin

>>50508412
Rinka is a chuuni blaster, sorta.
Zeldana is a masochist paladin.
Corwin would probably count as our straight man/perv.

Aqua? Maybe Kanela, don't know.

>>50508446
>kanela
>unironic espangnoll character

reee

>>50508429
It's not that hard, anon.

Basic idea is you get magic talents as you level. You spend a talent to either get access to a sphere and its basic abilities, or get talents within that sphere to improve what you can do with it.

Most spheres have some kind of at-will power, which you can spend spell points to make better. For instance, the destruction sphere gives you a blast which deals half your CL in damage dice. Spending a spell point increases that to equal your CL.

>>50508429
Isn't there some other guy playing a sphere blaster? Just copy him.

>>50508446
Rinka is a blaster, she just blasts with a gun.

Pop Pop makin niggas drop (WITH MAGIC)

jesus christ how long has this 2hu banter in the hv game been going on?

>>50508554
2hu is 2hu

its just what he does

Anyone got a japanese name replacement for Landsknecht that would make sense?

I was thinking Yojimbo?

>>50508600
Paravir
Ronin
Yojimbo also works

>>50508600
Yojimbow would work.
Building a Bushi ZS Warder with Scarlet Throne Style into Landsknecht? Because I did that before.
The dreaded Einhand Sentinel

>>50508608
Paravir is basically a paladin right?
Ronin i'm already using for the character as the description for their 'bushi' bit.
So Yojimbo might be best.

>>50508614
Yes indeedy, planning on starting up the Landsknecht side after level 7 (seems to be the best entry point imo)

I don't get anything from the first level of LS because this is a dex build Warder (I KNOW) but the rest is good shit

>>50508616
>Paravir
Oh right, that's Indian. Disregard, I suck cocks.

>>50508638
I actually one discussed that with the DSP devs when they hanged in here on a regular basis.
Basically Deadly Agility makes Strength of Arm work for Dex.

>>50508670
wait what really

>>50508394
Yeah fucking right, you perverted twat, we all know you were jacking off while you made that stupid dragon bitch character. She whored herself out from 16 to now like a bitch and you fapped to it teh whole fucking time.

>>50508679
Yeah Deadly Agility lets you add your DEX in /place/ of STR.
Strength of Arms makes the STR /modifier/ for one-handed 1-1/2.

Get it? I'm not very well at explaining.

Basically:
Weapon dice+1-1/2 STR mod
STR can be replaced for DEX
Thus:
Weapon dice+1-1/2 DEX mod

>>50508749
Holy fuk i buy it.

>>50508771
Talk to your DM though. Not all people agree on that reading and I can't find the answer Forrest gave me on that.

>>50508670
>when they hanged in here on a regular basis
Why did they leave, anyhow?

>>50508554
>>50508581
What's your problem with 2hu now?

>>50508833
None. I have no problem

He is just being 2hu, doing what 2hu does.

It'd be like getting mad at a woodpecker for pecking a tree, or a bear for shitting in the woods.

>>50508814

>why did a bunch of normies with jobs and reputations leave 4chan

Anon pls

>>50508814
Blinklings.

>>50508833
that i have 12 notifications on roll20 of the thread updating and its all shit i couldnt care less about

>>50508846
You can rightfully get mad at someone for being an autistic dickhead trying to ruin the game.

>Rank the Hell's Vengeance Characters in Evil, they said

>Cleganebowl Tier
Tyran

>Satsujinki Tier
Shizuka

>Rapist Tier
Caidor, Sersheon

>Antisocial Personality Disorder Tier
Kitty, Dierdre, Lyras

>Arrogant Authority Tier
Lyra, Catherine, Ukor

>Cereal Killer Tier
Ansell, Ned, Fleur

>A FUCKING LAWYER Tier
Yori

>NORMIES REEEEEEE
Duskwind

>>50508749
No. Key phrase in the landsknecht ability is "As if you're wielding the weapon in two hands." Reading Deadly Agility: "This modifier to damage is not increased for two-handed weapons, but is not reduced for off-hand weapons."

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