Pathfinder General /pfg/ >Half, Full, and 3/4ths Dragon

Does Roil Dancer stack with Avant Guard?
If it does, do they work well together or is it a mishmash of shit?

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So the old thread died before I could get a reply

So I'm planning on running Rappan Athuk (Or rather, a portion of it over Christmas that may be continued)

Any tips from people who've formerly run it? Mainly looking for how players responded to the lethality and how you made an engaging story of the dungeon aside from "Go down, kill Orcus"

For reference my players have about 2-3 years of experience with tabletop, mostly in pathfinder and shadowrun.

>>50454633
They stack, although it's very awkward to play until mid-levels due to not actually having a blast to Roil Dance with.

What's your thoughts on Summoners /pfg/?

Either the class itself or things like Monster Tactician or Occultist Arcanist.

>>50454659
I hate having to control a bunch of things, so I don't like stuff like that.

>>50454654
Roil Dancer has a feat to fix that!

>>50454651
Where did you get Rappan Athak? Is it in the trove?

What happens if someone takes the Ancestral Weapon or Heirloom Weapon traits via the Extra Traits feat? Could a Bladebound Magus apply it to their black blade?

>>50454705
I got it from the humble bundle, but it is in the trove 3rd Party>Necromancer Games. Make sure you pick up the tome of horrors from there too because you'll need it

>>50454659
I like Summoners in the sense that you're essentially building a monstrous PC, or otherwise one that can defy size and attack restrictions that a "normal" PC has. The amount of customization options is pretty cool.

Don't like a lot of other parts of them, though. Hate playing the Summoner itself or relying on Summon Monster spells because then you're completely dominating the action economy, so you're either the one the other players complain about or you're all waiting for That Guy to finish his turn(s).

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/boots-of-the-cat
Svana has found a way to spend 1000 gp, I suppose that she can spend the last 1740 gp on fancy fluffy dresses and stuff whenever she can.

>>50454818

Well you could buy 174 pounds of chocolate bars.

>>50454818

got a traveller's any tool and sleeves of many garments yet?

>tfw want to play a Nameless One in a game
>doubt anyone would want to play with him

The entire idea is an "always armed and competent". A melee specialized toxicant alchemist + broodmaster summoner.

>>50454849
That's part of "and stuff" of course!
>>50454902
Those are for nerds, Svana doesn't need that crur!

>>50454938
A girl has a name anyway.

Wrong reference, I know.

What feats does a PsyArm need?

Maybe this Time if kurgess wills it.

Human (ulfen) 15 point buy skald(spell Warrior)/lore warden fighter/spherewalker

Main idea of the build is to compensate the lack of damage from feats and spells with the free enhancements I get from the spellwarrior inspire rage replacement which allows me to get +1 worth of special abilities (early on when my skald level is below 5 when it increases to +2 and +1 more every 5 levels), including distance to compensate throwing, and from spherewalker I get free returning for starknives. Most of the damage then would come from the bane I'll get for the weapons and any specials I can milk from the inspire rage. Spells would grow as normal from spherewalker and so would bab. Mainly asking if spherewalker first 2-4 levels are worth the feats it requires and if the class feats are worth the investment. Going to dip into fighter anyway to allow me access into combat feats to boost my offense as most of my spells will be used for countering, another feature of spellwarrior. Stats are still under consideration as I am torn between dex for ranged and more defense and str for a bastard sword build if the spherewalker idea falls through.

Thoughts, suggestions, memes?

1pp only

Any thoughts if this would

>>50455174
KURGESS WILLS IT.

>>50455174

If you want to use starknives, you can monofocus charisma; there's feats that open up cha to attack and damage with them, though I do not remember the names offhand.

>>50455280
i think its in the inner sea temples book?

Is it possible to romance abrograil thrune in HV?

I am really torn. A big part of me wants to play a Toxicant Alchemist||Serial Killer Vigilante the rest of me is saying Insinuator Anti-paladin||Destined Bloodrager, and ANOTHER part of me is saying Vow of Poverty LE Monk (asking to use 3.5 Vow of Poverty) || Ascetic Oracle.

Advise me friends.

Also the Iron Gods and Mummy Mask games.

In Iron Gods I am seriously considering a Savage Technologist + True Primitive Barbarian.

In Mummy's Mask I was going to play a Ravenlord Harbinger.

Advise me friendos.

>>50455317
You can, but why would you want to get Queen Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way when you could have anyone else?

>>50455324
By the strictest of definitions, the variant weapon and armor proficiencies might prevent you from taking both the barbarian archetypes in your Iron Gods idea--make sure your GM will allow it.

>>50455324
Any reason why you don't Toxicant+Vivisectionist?
Need the bombs?

>>50455363
Oh it should also be Vivisectionist. I forgot.

>>50455354
That's, I'd have to ask, same with using 3.5 VoP.

>>50455280
>>50455287
Those feats would make the starknives viable. If the names come up, do post. Especially if you can find them on nethys

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>>50454589
>>50454273
I suppose? Technically?
I'm more or less still in the midst of updating her design and the last time I asked it was pretty late in the thread and late at night.

>>50455395
i'm sure the book is on the trove

>>50455424
On phone so no access

>>50455493
pull it up when you get home then.

>>50455500
No Internet, only phone, leeching neighbors who have open WiFi and computer hates WiFi

>>50455424
Which book is it? I don't think it's in Inner Sea Temples
https://imgur.com/a/8nWk9

>>50455527

I think part of it is a divine fighting style option? Ah, yeah, here. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/divine-fighting-technique-combat

way of the shooting star.

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>>50455564
Ooh, super neato. Thank you thank you!

>>50455579

You're a real sweetheart, you know that?

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>tfw you be a steelfist warlord styled as a banchou in a duo app with a qt mage maiden that you would protect.
>she will never try to get you to stop being violent despite your insistance that "Violence is the path of a man!"
>you will never defend her honor from other thugs
It's an abstract kind of feel.

>>50455607

Anon please, it's too much.

Make the banchou for HV or ROTJR!

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Reminder that there is a Talent in the Alteration Sphere Talent that is straight up called "Bully"

It allows you to knock nerds over, and push and pull them around

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>>50455630

>>50455607
seems like it'd fit in HV

>>50455630
So, what's the most bully build we can have?

>Bully social trait
>Pummeling Bully
>Bully Talent

>>50455564
That is perfect, it will make the build viable

On the phone, so imagine a cute anime girl thanking you.jpg here (awoo optional)

>>50455619
>>50455652
>HV
But he's CG.

And I'm super busy with school and my first RotJR app, otherwise I would.
I still might though.

>ywn have your "old man" tell you to fix your life
>your old man will never actively try to set you up with the mage
>ywn defend the shopping district that the mage lives in from other rival gangs

>>50455681
he could be worked in HV as something evil.

>>50455658
I think half orcs get racial feats or traits built around bullying

Okay, the farting is too far, and it's nothing to do at all with /pfg/ memes.
I say we veto that shit fetish out

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>>50455692
>Evil
Hurting others for your own gain? That ain't the path of man! You have to fight for what you believe in! What you want to protect! And you don't fight because you want to, you fight because you have to!

>>50455697

I am slain. Well done sir. you've killed me with raw bleugh

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>>50455768
but anon

Fighting feels fucking amazing

>>50455813
Anon, you are not being the person kurgess knows you can be

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>>50455847
No i'm not but Zon-Kuthon and I get along great

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>>50455813
Of course it does. That's how you achieve your hopes and dreams. The world isn't going to jsut give them to you. Fighting your way to the top is pushing against that. But stepping on other's dreams when you could help them climb to the top too, that just ain't cool.

>>50455892
but what if my dream involves stepping on others, including their dreams

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>>50455867
Beware, the Strong Man's greatest champion will beat you fairly if you continue on this forsaken path

>>50455915
but anon

I'm number one

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>>50455915

!

>>50455929
No, that would imply competence. Instead


you are a pirate

>>50455915
>>50455929
How would you even stat Sportacus and Robbie Rotten?

Why out of combat movement rules are so retarded?
So essentially you can run (x4) your CON turns, and then per extra turn you have to roll Fort vs DC 10 (+1 per extra turn). So as long as you save you can run indifenitely, even if you fail you only have to move for 10 minutes up to x2 and after that you can run again, rinse and repeat.

No, Hustle (x2), if you Hustle continuously for more than 1 hour you take 1 non lethal damage and are fatigued (-2 Str/Dex can't charge or run), another hour means 2 damage, another one 4, etc.

This is stupid, it's easier/less tiring to just run like a retard rather than walk fast.

>>50455947
Why is Robbie Rotten a thing?

>>50455950
Yar har fiddly-dee

>>50455956
Compare hustle to run

Run you can maybe do for a minute or two

Hustle you can do for HOURS.

>>50455952
>>50455960
Part memes, part cancer awareness. Robbie Rotten's actor has cancer, and some used the meme to push to get funds for him and his recovery.

They said that when he'd get better, they'd do a live version of We are number one.

>>50455991
its a decent meme shockingly.

>>50456004
>meme
>decent

>>50455980
You didn't listen, after those two minutes (my current char can run for like 4) you only need to move 10 minutes at x2 speed, then you can run again
This is 4 minutes at x4 + 10 minutes at x2 + 4 minutes at x4 + 10 minutes at x2. In one hour is 5x4x4+4x10x2 = 160 compared to 60x2 = 120, and in the first you don't end fatigued neither get non lethal damage, seriously, why should I full hustle at all?

>>50456032
Go watch a marathon and come back to tell me how many you saw hustling at a Steady pace and how many alternate between running at full speed and hustling. Common sense, retard, rules are guide lines for you to alter as needed

Why does it feel like there is no good Dex-based initiators? Base Stalker seems to inferior to both vigilante and brutal slayer, Mystic is difficult for online games and has a jank recovery, and Ordained defender doesn't stack with Dervish Defender, leading Str warders still better.

>>50456204
I meant dex/wis based initiators

>>50456204
Dervish Defender on its own can be fine, as can archery based initiators like Hawkguard and Gunsmoke Mystic

Also Daisho Expertise works well for dex builds

>>50456244
Sorry, I fucked up my post. see >>50456221

I guess hawkguard can be dex/wis, but gunsmoke still has the difficulties of mystic.

>>50456134
>Dudes, rules are fucked up in here
>No, they're not
>Yes, look at this
>Nuh nuh because irl
Do you find some kind of enjoyment on moving the goalpost?

Asking again in this thread.

There's no mental stat swap for Warlords, right? I sort of dislike charisma.

>>50456314
Nope there isn't

>>50456353
Fuck me then. Why do the other PoW1 classes get swaps but not Warlord?

>>50455404

She's a cutie, but I struggle with offering useful feedback because of the cutie proportions. Do you plan to do designs of her that are more semi anatomically correct?

Either way, bigger teeth and bigger/bushier eyebrows would be good

>>50456244

Speaking of hawkguard, what would you pair with it in a gestalt game?

>>50456404
Jollylock would be my choice

>>50456404
eldritch archer

>>50456429

Wait, what is a Jollylock?

>>50456576
Anon, I think you need to calm down with your badwrongfun.
New to PF, and I have been told that Path of War is what you want, if it is allowed, for close combat types without being JUST "I swing sword and roll to hit".
Which class best fulfills a fairly intelligent combatant? I looked at Zealot and Mystic, but I am leaning away from classes that are grounding themselves in quasi-magical effects (following another player's advice, apparently the DM likes to fuck with casters).

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>>50454717
Actually, to add to this question as well: Can a magus use his Arcane Pool on a +10 weapon to apply EVEN MORE special abilities past what a weapon would normally be able to have?

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>>50456655
Warder/Vigilante Stalker

No magic shit unless you trait or tradition into it. Warder can cover Sword and Board types, 2 hander types, Punch Types, and Archer types with the proper archetypes.

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Which RotJR character would you take to the harvest festival?

>>50456733
I'd take Shizuka or Silvia to the festival, they both seem mellow enough and could probably use a fun time.

Gil would be a bro to hang out with though. Maybe I'd be a good wingman and try to set him up with someone.

>>50456733
Onryou. She might be busy with the cooking contest. She should have a nice time outside the kitchen.

>>50456391
>Do you plan to do designs of her that are more semi anatomically correct?
I do, actually! I just used my more simplified style to more or less get the basics of her design acrossed. Hopefully I'll have something by later this evening with a few design notes.

>>50456733

Amalthea; she's practically a fertility idol already, why not take her to a celebration of life and the endless bounties nature can provide?

>>50456726
So two handed weapon is the general recommendation I've gotten.
I think I'm boiling down my ideas on flank securing, moving quickly to cut down flankers before wading in.
Now the ugly: are there any of the seemingly omnipresent "trap options" attached to this? It seems that there is just flat out wrong ways to make a character you don't even know about until you are playing.

>>50454651
>running Rappan Athuk
I have a tip for you:

Don't.

>>50456791
>bring up campaign concepts

People have been doing that. The last guy to bring up a general campaign concept got ridiculed because he only gave a brief outline and didn't lay out an entire multi-page document detailing how everything worked.

>>50456815
>>50456830
Oh gosh! Thank you guys!

>>50456865
I thought it was ignored because it was pretty much /pol/bait and something not suited for PF in the slightest.

>>50456871

Who would Onryou or Amalthea take to the harvest ball?

>>50456884
>>50456865
Link?

>>50456904
It was a couple of threads ago, it took place in an AU civil war reconstruction period.

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>>50456865
No, because it was a concept that Pathfinder was not built for and he just wanted an excuse to use the word nigger a lot without looking like the /pol/back he is.

>>50456895
Oh there's too many options. Probably the first person who asked her.

Though Amalthea would probably ask Casimir.

Onryou might ask lilin

>>50456865
No, it was because the idea was actually just shit.

Which of the Gestalt Hells Vengance character would you be edgy with

>>50456733

Like most of the characters.
The Bro/Babe split makes it a hard choice

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Tell me about the silliest character concept you played.

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>>50454589
I ran a PF game in the Forgotten Realms.

The PCs chased the remnants of a halfling crime syndicate (the Church of Misadventure) to some docks. The last halfling tried to bargain for safety from a cloaked figure there.

The cloaked figure said no, but fought the PCs anyway. The cloak caught on fire, and revealed a half-dragon Erinyes.

She fought the PCs for 5 rounds before killing the Aasimar Paladin NPC that the PCs had gotten attached to before leaving.

If I had to redo that encounter over again, I would have statted the Erinyes (Kokinoterra) as an initiator with Black Seraph, Cursed Razor, and Solar Wind.

>>50456830
Anon is right. The hips do not lie. That said she seems like she could use some good company away from the kids. Losing three husbands seems rough.

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>>50456973
>The Bro/Babe split makes it a hard choice

Okay then, who are the top bros and the top babes?

>>50456995
A full Dragon ten year old.

What are fun ways to play a Slayer?

>>50457018
what about the bottom bros and bottom babes.

>>50457037

As Geralt of Rivia, as a common assassin or a proper burglar? Heck, you could fluff the character as a duelist and it'd work, the Slayer is one of the few truly versatile martial classes in Pathfinder.

>>50457037
A pacifist

>>50456733
Serious answer would be... Silvia? I can honestly see Amandia or Aranha, on the basis of being cute, and me liking the idea of doing nice things for cute..

>>50457076
Onryou would probably hug the both of them

>>50456804
If Gil is basically an awakened feral fox, would he have had experience with vixens? He is like, 100+ or something, isn't he?

>>50457103
Don't crush the cute spider. Or bend som servos in cure robutt

>>50457248

Knowing Paizo, the groom will meet a tragic, grisly fate while the widow will be left grieving over his fresh, steaming corpse.

Curious how we never get these sob story missions when the Cleric might know Resurrection.

>>50457267
Yes certain spells make the concept of death/maiming meaningless.

>>50457276
Thats when you start fucking up souls

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>>50457276

T-That's not what I meant, anon.

Paizo makes the groom die because they despise the concept of two opposite-sex lovers being lovingly reunited, ever wonder why literally every single "save my lover!" Story involves a gay or lesbian couple?

All of them, anon. All of them.

>>50457248
>using XP
>not using milestones

>>50457306
>Paizo makes the groom die because they despise the concept of two opposite-sex lovers being lovingly reunited, ever wonder why literally every single "save my lover!" Story involves a gay or lesbian couple?
I don't because I'm not autistic and I'm pretty sure that's an exaggeration.

>>50457018
I was going say my top picks to both, but then my browser crashed and I'm getting reday for my shift at Ups. So now it's a mystery for all. just pretend I picked everyone, I like all the characters to one degree or another

Is there any way to get 1.5 dex to damage for twohanding?

>>50457329

>Kingmaker
>Reign of Winter
>Twice in Wrath of the Righteous
>Hell's Rebels

That's what I can glean off the top of my head.

>>50457360
Unchained Rogue

>>50457363
Isn't the very first thing you do in King Maker saving Oleg and his Wife from bandits?

>>50457350
>>50457275

That reminds me. Why are there no tengu applications

>>50457379
OH RIGHT. That's what I should make

>>50457377

You were saving both of them, anon. That was never a case of, "my wife is kidnapped by bandits, save her please!" It was "when these bandits come back they'll steal my supplies and rape my wife, please stop them!"

>>50457398
Yeah but if they hate hetero couples so much wouldn't Oleg already be dead?

>>50457391
Use a two bladed sword birb anon. Not nearly enough of it.

>>50457352
All of them?

For real?

>>50457487
Golden Route harem protagonist right here

>All those stupid fetishposts were deleted.

Praise be to whatever janitor we've got.

ANYWAY!

For the HV game, I wasn't intending to do more than just dip into Stalker on my character, but with all the applicants I'm worried that if I don't go hard on the initiating I won't be able to keep up in melee; for the record, my character is a Stalker 1/Vigilante (Serial Killer) 2 | Hunter (Divine Hunter) 3 currently. Should I swap Stalker and Vigilante around, just dip vigilante for Renown and the vigilante identity, then go the rest into stalker, or do y'all think I'll be fine with just one level into stalker?

well that was a large portion of the thread nuked for the better.

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>>50457452
Do you mean two blades, or a two-bladed weapon? Because if the latter, IDEAS ARE FORMING. I'm thinking Bushi Stalker||Lore Warden Fighter for this one, but that's just so I have something to start with. Dex based, of /course/. Kind of debating if I should be super cheesy and do something like hummingbird instead, though.

This makes me realize I desperately need art of tengu, especially if I'm going to make one.

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>>50456839
The beauty of Path of War is that it's generally really hard to make something "bad". You can make something sub optimal, but it's really hard to preform poorly. So nah, just pick shit that sounds cool.

>>50457592
Two bladed weapons

>>50457544
>more vigilantes
How many does that make now? It seems like a ton are applying to that evil campaign.

>>50457626
Well, wouldn't be the first time. Poor birbs, though. Even the mods don't want them posted ;-;

Right then. Now that we've succeeded in cooling down. Let us have som discussion. How many templates can you stack before you become an old one?

>>50457602
The "ugly" to Pow is how easy it is to crack open, as someone who hasn't used it and is glancing through it to build a character, it feels like a verbal agreement with the players not to "bust it open" is needed, ya know?

>>50457544
>>50457648
What is up with the sudden surge of [serial killer vigilante's] coming out. I know I mentioned that I sort of wanted to do one for a gestalt but it seems like 2-3 others have sprung up?

>>50457667
I saw a goblin alchemist that was blazing torchbearer, fire bomber, winged marauder and vivisectionist all at once I believe. It was pretty neat.

Been toying with a build for unchained rogue. I call it the ant-man build. Youd play a goblin using the knife master archetype and take reduce person with major magic. The idea is to shrink down and knife people in the shins for massive damage. Would it be effective or am I just wasting time?

>>50457648
apparently HOW 2 BE EVUL IN PATHFINDER requires two things

BLACK BLADE MAGUS and VIGILANTE.

>>50457667
Isn't there like a deep one hybrid race that becomes old ones automatically?

>>50457695
They become deep ones yes.

>>50457681
>>50457648

I was one of the first apps posted, actually, Sersheon; i'm just rethinking exactly how I want to do the character, and if what I've got will be enough or if I need to put more POW into the build.

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>>50457602
>So nah, just pick shit that sounds cool

Why not pick the cooler swordsman?

>>50457676
We have the same problem with people making some Wizards and Clerics.

>>50457707
I'm not changing Shizuka, I'm too happy with how she comes off as a character.

Still working on Scythe wielding Vampire Hunting David Bowie

>>50457681
>>50457707
I never quite got an answer when I asked initially about if serial killer was actually any good as far as archetypes go. It seems passable, but I had some issues with stalkers 'sneak attacking'.

Speaking of Path of War

What the fuck do discipline weapons actually DO?

Because for most disciplines they don't seem to matter at fucking all

What would gestalt well with a Steelfist Warlord? What if he was themed as a banchou?

>>50457748
+2 to the Saves of their associated discipline when you use a maneuver while wielding one.

>>50457748
Some disciplines don't function when not used with discipline weapons.

>>50457736

Good is debateable, but it is a FUN archetype. You actually have a really good chance of *scaring normal peasants* to death with that one ability that makes your crime scenes give people nightmares (as the spell).

>>50457726
>same problem with wizards
I can't argue there. One aspect that thows me off is the regain that's possible, potentially making these thingsites infinite. It will probably make more sense to me when I sit down and play with it.

>>50457759
Where the fuck does it say that

>>50457763
yeah like two of them. AT most.

>>50457749
Isn't that pretty anachronistic?

>>50457774
Does that ever matter in pathfinder? We have guns, robots, laser guns, but heaven forbid someone make a character based on a outdated idea of a late Twentieth Century Japanese schoolyard gang boss.

>>50457771
Tempest gale, piercing thunder, solar wind, broken blade, thrashing dragon and more that I'm probably missing.

But I understand that their pfsrd entry doesn't exactly parse well all the time.

And it probably says it in a mostly unrelated stub like systems and use.

>>50457736
Crimson count harbinger | with david bowie.

>>50454589
Fuck you, OP.

>>50457809
that seems rather unprovoked anon.

>>50457809
For what reason?

>>50457792
>We have guns, robots, laser guns
Yeah those things are all explained though.

>>50457794
It doesn't affect Black Seraph, Scarlet Throne, or Mithral Current from what I can tell

An annoying inconsistency in the system.

>>50457820
why can't he just be a guy from Minkai who has a Banchou attitude toward shit.

I believe they called them 'samurai'

>>50457828
>I believe they called them 'samurai'
I must've missed all those greaser samurai in the history books.

>>50457843
And I must have missed the wizards and dragons in my history books too. Let the guy have his fun.

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>>50457821
Systems and Use section on the SRD has a blurb on it

pic related, last sentence

>>50457852
>And I must have missed the wizards and dragons in my history books too
You did?

Or did you forget about the great Wizard Dragon Wars of '45? Bet you slept in class faggot.

>>50457736
Is there a way to get dex to damage with a scythe? David Bowie even with the owlbear in his trousers is gonna be pretty MAD

>>50457852
Dude. You never read about solomon, jesus and lucifer?

Saint George? The Tarrasque? Roman armies going 10's and 20's of miles out of their way to avoid hyper-aggressive masculine death-machine unicorns?

>>50457852
>I must have missed the wizards and dragons in my history books
Check out the section of your history book that deals with the KKK. It has cyclops' as well.

>>50457872
PoW Stalker talent Killer's Implements

>>50457871
>>50457880
Fuck, you caught me. I was too busy ruling the school yard with my gang, my open uniform worn like a cape and my pompadour.

>>50457884
Well referenced. I kekd

>>50457897
I dont get it. Can you explain? (I'm not super familiar with american history, canadian history is pretty neat though).

>>50457918
Those are names of actual KKK ranks.

I frankly have no idea why.

>>50457918
>>50457897
The KKK or Ku Klux Klan was a hate group that ran around lynching blacks and sympathizers after the Civil War.

They had titles like Grand Wizard, Cyclops, Dragon, etc.

>>50457937
>>50457943

because the KKK are a bunch of fucking Chuunis

>>50457733

I'm not unhappy with Sersheon; I'm just worried she's not good enough mechanically to keep up or make the cut.

>>50457918
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_titles_and_vocabulary

>>50457953
Shizuka isn't exactly mechanically that great, her AC is low, she's heavily swift action gated (to the point where taking boosts for me feels somewhat pointless at times), and her warder abilities don't line up super well with her magus side

But it works well enough for the idea.

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>>50457943
>>50457937
Oh, I'd heard of grand wizards and grand dragons, but cyclopses were new to me.

In other news I want to run a Tech fluffed Aegis gestalted with tech gunslinger based off of dust 514 dropsuits and weaponry.

Preferably Caldari (their faceplates don't allow them to see scum) or Amarr (because delicious laser weaponry / scrambler pistols).

>>50457979
dude its hillarious

"Empire - constituting the whole area of the Klans activities. This was led by the Grand Wizard and his staff of ten Genii, as well as an Grand Exchequer (treasurer) and Grand Scribe, whose duty was to keep lists of the subordinate officers. The Genii, Imperial Exchequer and Scribe were appointed by the Imperial Wizard.[4]
Realms - while the role of Realms was laid out in the first prescript they were only identified as states in the second. Realms were ruled by a Grand Dragon assisted by eight Hydras, as well as a Grand Exchequer and Grand Scribe, whose duties were identical to the above officers on the imperial level. All officers were appointed by the Grand Dragon.[5]
Dominions - identified in the second prescript as "coterminous with such counties as the Grand Dragons of the several Realms shall assign" and "not to exceed three in number for each Congressional district".[6] The Dominion was headed by a Great Titan assisted by six Furies, a Great Exchequer and a Great Scribe, appointed by the Great Titan.[7]
Provinces - the second prescript identified the Provinces as equivalent to a county. It was supervised by a Grand Giant, assisted by four Goblins, a Grand Exchequer and a Grand Scribe, appointed by the Grand Giant.[8]"

>>50457918
Oh brother where art thou. Its a movie with George Clooney. Its basically the Oddessy in the American south west during the depression. John Goodman played the Cyclops. .

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>>50457995
Oh, is that why goblins are kill on sight? Poor gobbos, being given a bad name by the KKK.

>>50454633
Having just built one, they work pretty well together, but it's preeeetttyyy complicated.
The main thing that hurts is the slower utility talent progression, in my opinion, especially since the Extra Wild Talent feat is so awful.

>>50457978

I suppose that's true.

>>50458011
Oh shit, now I want to watch that again.

>>50458012
Fuck gobbies, they're all shit.

>>50458027
don't worry about optimization too much. These characters are going to be strong enough to blow through most combat.

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>>50457979
Delicious Caldari Heavy with its tasty shields, shield regen and forge gun.

Unfortunately not as independent as the amarr commando that can recharge its laser rifle / scrambler rifle off of its suit powerplant with no solid ammo.

>>50458031
>Fuck gobbies
if only

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>>50458066

>>50457693

I saw that. I might change mine even though I made a post about it already.

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>>50458059
Would be a juggernaut suit. Pretty gud.

>>50458087
I refuse to change a damn thing about Shizuka's classes, she's too much fun in my head

>>50458011
Better yet. The Cyclops was a Cyclops inthe KKK and only had one eye.

>>50458095
We get it anon. You like your waifu.

>>50458107
Thanks I really do.

>>50458099
That's pretty great, did they do the whole poker in the eye thing?

>>50458142
With a sharpened American flag thrown as a javelin

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>>50457604
I can work with this.

>>50457592
Actually, someone fill me in on something: can Tengu even get wings? This is important, as I'm realizing I have no idea how the fuck I'm going to fill all my shit in. I started with too little of a concept besides "make a tengu with a double weapon" and didn't stop to think about filling the rest in.

Maybe Urban/Invulnerable Barbarian||Bushi Stalker would be better, just for MAXIMUM "FUCK EVERYTHING"-itude, though then I run the risk of not having any utility at all. Not that Fighter||Stalker had much. Who knows, still just an idea at this stage. I'd do Inquisitor, but then I have to deal with the headache of ban-ing a twinblade.

>superstitious, sneeki-breeki bird with a twinblade
>goes on alcohol-fueled rage blender-benders during fights
>is DEFINITELY NOT a suspicious individual
>definitely isn't in town during a festival to repay any favors

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>>50458153

>>50458017
What kind of homebrew would you suggest to patch it up a bit?
My GM is pretty lenient!

>>50458172
>>50458153
He actually caught it just before it pierced his eye. But then was subsequently crushed by the cross they were burning.

>>50454589
Speaking of dragons, I always liked the Dragon Disciple class as a concept and it got improved with Pathfinder from 3.5.

Has anyone made one as a melee recently with the Bloodrager or similar?

>>50458231
Bloodrager 12/ DD 8

>>50457995
Is the KKK just a larp

were we fooled

they just want to rid the world of darkness

>>50458156
>Actually, someone fill me in on something: can Tengu even get wings?
IIRC someone once asked Gareth about this in the context of Bloodforge and the answer was "no". Which is strange considering some other races that can grab Aerial Wings and call it a day.

>>50458156
Tengu can get wings as a Level 5 Feat. And it's only once a day.
And a Level 7 Feat turns you into a bigger bird. Also once a day.

>>50458231
Purple Duck Games made it into a magus archetype. You channel touch spells through a bite attack or something

>>50458259
I was mostly asking if you could get real wings, because I know about those feats. They're shit and are never considered when thinking about any build.

>>50458255
Probably not that strange. The feat, I would guess, wasn't made with Tengu in mind. Assuming it wasn't even made before Tengu were a think in the original version

>>50458271

Could dip into a spheres-using class to grab some transmutation talents to get wings.

Anyone got Strange Aeons part 3?

>>50458261
I thought that one was decent. Though never got a chance to play it.

>>50458299
I mean, I could just double dip on Transformation and Hybrid Transformation, and switch back to Fighter for one side, or something equally silly.

>>50458425
Or just ask the gm if Arial wings will work on tengus just this once?

>>50457771
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/systems-and-use

"Sometimes, a maneuver with a special effect or supernatural augmentation that targets an enemy allows the creature or object to make a saving throw to avoid some or all of the effect. The saving throw line in a maneuver description defines which type of saving throw a maneuver allows. Maneuvers performed with a favored weapon for the martial abilities' discipline gain a +2 competence bonus to the DC of the maneuver initiated (if applicable)."

>>50458240
Interesting.

Though, I forgot to ask: If you are Bloodrager/Dragon Disciple, the DD levels count for Sorcerer Draconic tricks still or does it stack with Bloodrager ones?

>>50458261
Interesting. Will have to take a look.

>>50458090

There's not nearly enough gold in that suit to be Amarr.

>>50458059

At least Caldari armor looks Caldari! I hope Gallente looks positively insectoid.

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About to start Mummy's Mask as a player. What should I expect? Any waifus?

>>50454589
We should make a planetouched style race for dragons.

Like resurgent draconic features from earlier in the bloodline

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>>50458517
That's the 'base' version before coloring. Sentinel designation suits had green + racial color. Commando's had Red + Racial color.

Assaults had some white mixed in. Logistics had yellow. Scouts had uh... purple? I miss dust.

Many of the suits were defined by their head shape and overal profile. Amarr always had "trenchcoats" because form is function. Caldari had faceplates. Gallente tended to have 4 eyes (except for the heavy) and were almost skin tight. Minmatar only ever had one eye revealed (except on heavy IIRC, which had endo-skeletal supports, they were using repurposed construction/powerlifting stuff)

>>50458508
they're bloodrager ones

>>50458517
>>50457979
Thats the gal assault. They're four-eyed on scouts and assaults.

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>>50458590
>>50458517
And finally the minheavy, holding a mass driver (basically a fancy minmatar magnetic grenade launcher). They also proper 'projectile' rifles, sub machine guns and heavy machine guns (sadly no auto-cannons though), and they also borrowed some plasma-edged knives from the caldari (made by ishukone corporation).

>>50458555
Expect to be extremely bored for the first book and most of the second.

>>50458665

See, now *that* looks Minmatar, but the GAYllente here >>50458590 should be a bit more bug-like, you dig? Needs more bulbous breastplates and pauldrons.

>>50458726
The gallente were never very insectile, not in dust at least. Rounded and smooth yes, but not 'insectile'. They had some nifty weapons though, like the 'shotgun' that was basically welded right onto the suit because it was a 'blaster' weapon that vomited forth plasma shrapnel-flamethrower mess and if it wasn't braced in all those ways it would rip your arm off... then explode.

"blaster rifles" (aka plasma rifles), Plasma Cannons (similar to fuel rod cannons). I cant remember what they were working on for a gallente heavy weapon before the game got scrapped though, which is a shame because it probably would have been neat.

Hey, anyone got that barbarian feat that gives you a bonus to Constitution while raging?

>>50458799
Ah, that's right, the idea bouncing around the forums was a plasma mortar. Very similar to the juggernauts fusion mortar / mirv launcher in tribes ascend.

>>50458825
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/raging-vitality

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>>50458871

Thanks anon, you're a circle in a sea of squares!

>>50458871
Hmm, seems decent for Savage Technologist so that they don't need to invest a lot into CON.

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>>50456733
>RotJR
So, what's this thing?

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>>50459109
Have you not been here for the past two or so weeks?

So what Disciplines work well with a dex natural weapon stalker? I'm using Chimera Soul and Thrashing Dragon, but are there any others?

>>50459109
It's a roll20 campaign, applications open January, level 3 gestalt, PoW, SoP, first book of RotRL (Burnt Offerings) into the entirety of Jade Regent. Lewd was mentioned in the post, so now that's abounding.

>>50459109
Hello newfriend

>>50459141
i like the HV campaign more :^)

>>50459141
I'm tempted to make an entirely un-lewd character who's only in it for prospective riches.

>>50459154

There are quite a few entirely un-lewd characters applying, anon! Join it and make yourself comfy, we'd love to have you!

>>50459154
I mean there are a shit ton of characters that are neither lewd nor particularly cute.

>>50459140
I only check in every month or so.

>>50459171

Name the least and most lewd and the least and most cute characters!

>>50459170
Who's the least lewd.

>>50459141
Huh...

>>50456733
>Nobody mentions my character
Haha, I, I'm okay with this.

>>50459231
same here.

>>50459231
>>50459239
Well one guy did say all of them, since he saw a bit of good in all of the applicants.

>>50454589
Ok, I have to ask. Is the person in OPs pic a seriously ripped androgynous guy with massive pecs? Or is it a seriously ripped masculine woman with small flat boobs?

Whether or not I fap tonight depends on the answer.

>>50459189
Shizuka isn't cute or lewd! She's a nerd, A NERD!

>>50459194

Probably Spider gal. Subsequently probably most cute.

>>50458589


Dragonkin (Pending name)
16 RP

Dragon type
+2 Cha
+2 Con
-2 Wis

Breath weapon (Same as Energy Resistance) + (Cone or Line)
Energy Resistance (Same as Breath Weapon)
+1 natural armor
Claws

>>50459250

Shizuka is an innocent cinnamon bun that deserves to get her noggin rubbed and hair ruffled!

>>50459246
It's not quite the same anon.

>>50459239
Who are you anon? I'm Song Lilin.

>>50459247

Das a lady, and that's just gravity affecting the boobs, they're actually decently sized. you blind person you.

>>50459231
>>50459239
Same here as well
>>50459246
He said most, not all of them and he didn't say which ones he didn't like

>>50459265
Rinka, nobody wants to take that much of a weirdo to the harvest ball. Nor should they.

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>>50459265

I direct your not getting picked to this comment up here. >>50456932

>>50459265
Plenty of people have already waifu'd the shit out your character though And someone did mention your character
>>50456932
See
>>50457352
>I like all the characters to one degree or another

>>50459278
>he said most not all

>>50459291
>>50459298
That actually does make me feel a lot better, thanks!

>>50459247
In a game of pretend, they can be whatever you want

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>Our Cleric casts Heal on an undead creature
>GM rules it does nothing and the spell is wasted
>Ask why
>"The wording of Heal says to treat it as the Harm spell if used on an undead, and the wording of the Harm spell says to treat the spell as Heal on an undead target, so I shut down that infinite loop"

i just

what

>>50459298
Whoops, I was looking at >>50456973

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q4QX4bs1TblC8UNaFUEo0oACvMcxR1--kuyu9Q_qk_8/edit?usp=sharing

Decided to turn a spell I find kinda cool into a line of spells.

Death Candle is a pretty cool spell that lets you kill a guy and get a fire elemental ala Summon Monster II but it obviously doesn't scale well so I decided to play with the idea of some higher level ones. Not really as good as Summon Monster (Except for Anti-Paladins) but hopefully people will find them fun.

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>>50459189

I'm interested in knowing what the cutest potential couples are!

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Wait, so where can I find info on the RotJR characters?
I've mostly ignored the discussion completely, but now I'm bored and kinda curious

>>50459325
How much of a fucking pedant do you have to be think of that.

>>50459344

Amalthea and Casimir are adorable as fuck.

>>50459344

I bet none of them involve my characters!

I just want to be shipped.

>>50459369
Shipping implies we care and want to see your character grow, anon.

>>50459284
I bet the fox would go after the rat. Hunting instincts, yo.

>>50459348
Khair - Psychic tinker with body issues.
Onryou Kaijitsu - Oni brawler, now a monk of Irori.
Song Lilin (Me) - Singing samurai.
Shizuka Kaijitsu - Dhampir on a quest for knowledge.
Omza - Sandpoint native mage with a crush on Ameiko.
Anja Spitzen - Mercenary with a depression eating spirit.
Casimir Aldori - Widower swordsman and painter.
Silvia Dalcus - Bastard wolfgirl, now a paladin of Shelyn.
Etan 'Gil' Remiel - Kitsune saved from a boar by Ameiko.
Amandia - Android who wants to cure her 'sick' (actually dead) father.
Corwin Brin - Free spirited ex-soldier back in town.
Roku - Giant samurai out to go full warrior-poet.
Akane Kaijitsu - Healer and friendly face around Sandpoint.
Ricktor Watt - Cursed thief bound to never tell a lie.
Keva the Living Forge - Oread miner left behind when it closed down.
Aster Tobyn - Ethumion with a tragic past and yandere tendencies.
Amalia Drines - Changeling imprisoned by her hag mother.
Grayson Rook - Spooky Scary Skeleton disguised in armor.
Togeko Arashi - Exiled rightful heir to a samurai clan.
Nixia Procellus - Former Chelaxian soldier and current loner.
Svana Kodlak - Big, busty, boisterous wereboar.
Amalthea Sendorei - Magical mother, midwife and medium.
Kanela Kaijitsu - Bastard kid made to extort the family.
Zeldana Mthera - Bimbo masochist paladin.
Aranha - Spider girl who's really a human but never learned to turn back.

>>50459325
Get out. No good can come of that.

>>50459344

The shipping potential between Amalthea and Casimir is so sweet I *almost* want to see her and him get in just to read the greentexts or pastebins, I'm not picky.

>>50459391
arienai ;.;

>>50459392
>Not even on the list

ALL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR FACES

>>50459392
>My character that's been there for a few days has been left out

He's pretty bad though so it's fine

>>50459392
>Agatha not on the list
This makes me sad.

So I'm beginning to realize I don't like a lot of the combat options in pathfinder. Combat maneuvers seem janky and not worth it, debuffs seem to never have "weight" or just outright end a guy, and summoning is a lot of paperwork/turn time to deal with. I think this is why I like out of combat utility, buffs and high end direct damage through martials or blasting. All of those feel like they have weight to them; I can feel the effect of those actions far more than "he's 10-25% less likely to do x" which is what most combat maneuvers/debuffs feel like. Maybe I don't find combat interesting and therfore want it over as soon as possible if not circumvented. That way the party can get back to the plot and continue with their adventures. It's probably the explanation for my desire for high optimization, all just to speed up the slow parts of the story. Anyways, thanks for reading my blog.

t. an optimization apologist

>>50459407
>>50459410
>>50459411
I just copied the list from an older thread that's like a week old iirc.

>>50459257
Shizuka deserves to be taught something kinky and get her hooked on it. I don't know, for some reason she seems like a bondage sort of girl to me.

>>50459392
>>50459141
Is there an IRC or a wiki for all of this by now?

>>50459407
>>50459410
>>50459411

>All posted on the same second

Wow

>>50459425
#RotJR on Rizon.

>>50459392
What about that one rat folk I vaguely heard about in passing? She seemed cute

>>50459436
Rinka, she's a chuuni Ratgirl gunslinger/wizard.

>>50459424
Little do we all know is she writes dirty romance novels.

>>50459447

And her sisters read them!

For personal enjoyment!

>>50459392
>still haven't changed Etan's description to be less laser focused on him getting saved

He's a glassmaker who wants to be a hero, for crying out loud

>>50459392
You're not me! I would have added the new characters!

Agatha Highwind - Dockworker with a bad case of wanderlust.
Rinka - Chuuni ratfolk who just wants to be cool.
Bartran Thighfield - Childlike halfling investigator with Scarzni ties.
Viviana D'Apparan - Ex-conwoman with dreams of knighthood.

>>50459469
See
>>50459420
I just copy pasted the list, sorry.

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>>50459446
>Rinka, she's a chuuni Ratgirl gunslinger/wizard
Nigga das cute as fuck
Where can I learn more?

>>50459434
Dafuqs a Razon?

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>>50459109
Ok at this point can we just have a link or image macro or some other shit so we don't have to repeat this shit every thread. Hell at this point we'll need a whole wiki page to explain the whole thing.

>>50459487
IRC server, yo.

>>50459487
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1020058

here's the sheet

>>50459478
Yeah, I got that. New list for copy pastes, also with backup characters marked.
Khair - Psychic tinker with body issues.
Onryou Kaijitsu - Oni brawler, now a monk of Irori.
Song Lilin - Former bully, current deputy in Sandpoint.
Shizuka Kaijitsu - Dhampir on a quest for knowledge.
Omza - Sandpoint native mage with a crush on Ameiko.
Anja Spitzen - Mercenary with a depression eating spirit.
Casimir Aldori - Widower swordsman and painter.
Silvia Dalcus - Bastard wolfgirl, who wants to see the world.
Etan 'Gil' Remiel - Kitsune glassblower who wants to be a hero.
Amandia - Android who wants to cure her 'sick' (actually dead) father.
Corwin Brin - Free spirited ex-soldier back in town.
Roku - Giant samurai out to go full warrior-poet.
Akane Kaijitsu - Healer and friendly face around Sandpoint.
Ricktor Watt - Cursed thief bound to never tell a lie.
Keva the Living Forge - Oread miner left behind when it closed down.
Aster Tobyn - Ethumion with a tragic past and yandere tendencies.
Amalia Drines - Changeling imprisoned by her hag mother.
Grayson Rook - Spooky Scary Skeleton disguised in armor.
Togeko Arashi - Exiled rightful heir to a samurai clan.
(Second Character, Togeko Arashi) Nixia Procellus - Former Chelaxian soldier and current loner.
Svana Kodlak - Big, busty, boisterous wereboar.
(Second Character, Onryou Kaijitsu) Amalthea Sendorei - Magical mother, midwife and medium.
Kanela Kaijitsu - Bastard kid made to extort the family.
(Second Character, Khair) Zeldana Mthera - Bimbo masochist paladin.
Aranha - Spider girl who's really a human but never learned to turn back.
Agatha Highwind - Dockworker with a bad case of wanderlust.
Rinka - Chuuni ratfolk who just wants to be cool.
Bartran Thighfield - Childlike halfling investigator with Scarzni ties.
(Second Character, Corwin Brin) Viviana D'Apparan - Ex-conwoman with dreams of knighthood.

>>50459487
https://www.rizon.net/chat

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>>50459492
Well here's an image for your's.

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>>50459407
Are you sure she's not ready to get eaten out?

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For the Hell's Vengeance campaign.

Tobias T'nomleb
Crimson Count Harbringer / Stalker

> A just and virtuous Farmer living in Ustalav.
> One day vampires come by and kill his family.
> Gets fuckkin pissed. Takes his scythe and tracks down the bitches.
>Its bit harder than he thought. He has to resort to increasingly underhanded and insane methods to kill them
>Burning down buildings and poisoning the drinking water of a vampire's favored food just to name a few.
>Tracks down the last one, removes its limbs, rips out it's heart and eats it. leaving the body to roast in the sunlight.
>This has given him some measure of control over blood and its intrinsic magical power.
>With nothing left to do, he goes stomping around looking for more vampires to kill, with no regard to the collateral damage he causes.

Likes: Blood of his enemies, Poetic Justice, the smell of wet iron, Apple Pie

Dislikes: Vampires, Vampires, Vampires, Turnips, VAMPIRES.

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>>50459514
This rat be mai waifu now.

Now I know what I must do. I must make a husbando. One who tries to act cool and tough, but underneath is all nervous and full of bluster.

If only I wasn't so swamped with research papers now.

>>50459605
boo

>>50459606

That is one girly vampire hunter, my friend.

>>50459633

The only scythe wielder i could find that wasn't Deviant art tier, a woman, or black.

>>50459633
somehow girlier than the HV Shizuka.

>>50459633
Testament is another member of Guilty Gear's colored history of very pretty boys

Rolled 6, 4, 3, 4 + 4 = 21 (4d6 + 4)

Don't mind me just rolling some dice...

>>50459663
Oh don't worry anon we remember you

>8

>fucking 8.

>>50459671
>>50459671
Actually, I'm the GM of HV, not Gregor-kun.

Time to make a Half-Giant Husbando for RotJR.

Is there anything outstandingly powerful feat-wise for a Roil Dancer that I should be aware of?
This'll be my first initiator with an initiation modifier over 3, so if there's anything that's great for big numbers let me know about that too!

>>50459684
jesus anon she's a small sized ratgirl show mercy.

that dicks half as big as she is

>>50459684
Back off, she's mine!

So where are these dick size tables people have been using
I am both disgusted yet curious

>>50459523
And since I'm bored, breakdowns by race and gender.

9 Male, 20 Female.
10 Human, 4 Aasimar, 2 Skinwalker, 1 Tiefling, 1 Dhampir, 1 Kitsune, 1 Android, 1 Half-giant, 1 Oread, 1 Ethumion, 1 Changeling, 1 Obitu, 1 Half-elf, 1 Spider (actually a human), 1 Ratfolk, 1 Halfling.

>>50459770
>9 Male, 20 Female.
Fucking christ.

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Alright anons, I'm going to play someone with a Tower Shield, who specializes is protecting and covering his caster/gunner waifu

What are some good class/feat choices for that?

Pic related, I wanna be an ineffectual defender of the weak

>>50459770
Where are the dwarves? What's wrong with dwarves?

What about gnomes?

>>50459770

>only 9 males

Hmm. Maybe I should stick to Khair after all, he'll stand out more.

>>50459834
>dwarves
No good for lewds
>gnomes
Can all burn in a fire.

>>50459834
Does are smelly
Gnomes aren't good for taking responsibility

>>50459833
Polearm brace

>>50459704
>that dicks half as big as she is

Some people find insertions that large really, really hot.

>>50459833
What ever it is, it should have the golden lion counters from PoW.

>>50459827
It was actually going pretty strong on the balance for a while, then got wiped out with the wave of Togeko, Nixia, Svana, Amalthea, Kanela, Zeldana, Aranha, Agatha, and Rinka.

>>50459841
Most likely!

>>50459870
No. It shouldn't.

>>50459833
Pin down is good. Same with accelerated drinker and some potions of enlarge.

>>50459833
wouldn't a sworn protector Warder make sense?

>>50459770
How is there a fucking Android and an Oread but no Sylphus?

>>50459941
Because we didn't know QANON was back until the other day. Hopefully this will repair the balance.

>>50459941
>Oread
So you've not heard the Legend of PanzerCreed?

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>>50459941
Sylpheeds are cute.

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>>50459980
Wrong kind of sylphs anon, as sexy as this is

>>50459966
What is there to even say? Some guy who isn't all that hip on optimizing made a character and some guys helped him out a little.

>>50459904
Sounds like it might work, but I want all my options known

So I can decide what options will be best for protecting Rinku's,while trying to hide my own nervousness and fear

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I. WILL. REMIND. THEM.

>>50460000
Nice digits.

There's a difference between not being hip on optimizing and not being able to read. First he didn't know the campaign background. Then he didn't know how to hyperlink. Then he didn't know what myth-weavers was despite the numerous sheets. Then he didn't realize that the feat tax rules included free power attack. But no, really he just didn't read the feat tax rules. And then he chose improved sunder as a feat, despite that being 1/4th of a feat under the feat tax rules.

And that's the last we heard of good old PanzerCreed.

>>50460033
champion