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FIRST FOR DA ORKZ ARE FASTEST AND HAVE DA HIGHEST INITITIVE, IM GOING TO KRUMP ANY STOOPID SPIKEY ELDAR GITZ THAT FINK THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE DA FIRST POST FROM ME!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY6qGamu24Y

So this is a thing.

>>50435752
So smug.

>>50435752

I actually thought i was watching gay porn for a few seconds there great job GW

Reposting from last thread.
Ok, I'm probably getting a Baneblade variant of some kind to add to my armies come Christmas.
Thing is, I've never magnetised a model before, and I would like to get as much as possible out of the model, given that it's a tad expensive.

Is magnetising models a simple enough process?
I can follow a YouTube tutorial as well as the next man, but I'd like to know if I am likely to horrifically maul my first ever Superheavy if I screw it up at all.

>>50435807
>>50435752
>hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the 'eavy metal club is two blocks down.

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>>50435807

How do I equip a chaos space marine sorceror of slaanesh these days

>>50435825
>It may have been the wrong door at first, but now the back door feels so right.

>>50435846
Force sword, use him to outskill marines with his one point higher initiative.

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>>50435752
>Modern GW led by Eddie and Rob are now full on memers

>>50435752
you can say whatever you want, GW under Kirby definitly has humor

>>50435868

What powers should I use to buff my noise marines

this is for a fluffy army

>>50435889
The slaanesh discipline is actually p good if you take noise marines; You want the malediction that boosts noise weapon STR and stacks with itself.

>>50435752
How long until they reopen their youtube comments?

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>>50435752

Is there any word of boxes for Blue Horrors and/or Brimstone Horrors?

Gotta get my split on.

>Though Purge is going to be even more one sided against me.
WFH for 10, 3 being Pinks, which boils down to 9+ KP from them alone.

>Kinda wish instead of making new units the Blue / Brimstones join the Pink Horrors with an additional line thrown in to Split
>Regardless of Majority, the unit is always considered T3 if at least one Pink Horror is alive or T2 if at least one Blue Horror is alive and no Pink Horrors are alive. Wounds are always allocated to Pink Horrors first, regardless of poisitioning and if no PH are alive allocated to Blue Horrors over Brimstones.

Clunky wording, but gist is that all the Horrors stay in the same unit and all PH have to die before Blues can be killed and all Blues have to be killed before Brimstones can die. Always using the highest Horror Toughness. Less abuse on WC bullshit.

>>50435752
>big black can
>puny white can
/pol/ was right.

>>50435918
when Grognard will stop shitting up yt comments

>>50435964
That won't happen until GW stops shitting up the game.

>>50435918
yt comments are cancer, and its refreshing that GW also realizes this

>>50435981

next edition will fix everything! We just have to play the waiting game and not die before it comes out.

>20 man unit of Pink Horrors manifests Possession, spawning a D-thirster, while under the effects of the Exalted Locus of Conjuration
>a 40 man unit of Blue Horrors is placed in addition to the D-thirster
Oh baby, I hope my LGS is ready for some homebrew CSM, because the alternative is a metric fuck load of Horrors.

>>50436007
Yeah, the people responsible for Pink Horrors splitting will totally make a fun, balanced ruleset.

>>50436023

They at least could make a fun ruleset and thats ALL that matters.

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>>50435752

>>50436023
If you're playing a weaker army you should take more points, it makes the game better.

>>50436048
What about the Pink Horrors splitting rule seems fun to you? Can you imagine how much a massive, overpowered mess the game would be if someone actually played with it?

>>50435882
>Kirby
Kys

>>50436084
13 culexus for 1820
Eat their mind powers!

>>50436084
EZ kill points my man, they eat shit to fucking GEQ. Serve them some pie

>>50436100
i meant Alpha kevin(Rountree) , not kirby

>Warpflame Host
Herald of Tzeentch- Exalted Locus of Creation- ~70
9x Pink Horrors (11)- 99x9- 891
>Furies
Chaos Furies- 35

That's 99 Pink Horrors that, when killed, turn into a total of 396 Blue Horrors. In order to shoot that list of the table, you need to kill 496 bodies with a 5++ that reroll 1's, all of which are Psykers.

This is the smiling fun face of the new Games Workshop. Do things look better yet?

>>50435981
>It's GW's fault i type autistic, rude comments like the sperg i am when given the chance

No John, you are the faggot

>>50436172
You forgot the 792 brimstone horrors

>>50436172

NO ONE is going to let that rule stand and gw will see the error in their ways

>>50436172
You missed the part where not even the most Sadistic fuck would enjoy moving that many models around in actuality. That and the moment you pop the lid on your horrors case your opponents probably gonna walk away

>>50436203
blue horrors turn into one brimstone base when they die

So with all the gained information so far. What is the minimum requirements needed to field a Battleforged Army that has a Magnus?

>>50436242
but two under the effects of the locus

>>50436244
>a Magnus
lel

chaos lord, 2 units of cultists, magnus in a CAD

what do you think about unpainted army ?
do you play your army unpainted ?

>>50436232
can horrors even damage vehicles?

a smart person would just push them around the table with tanks, otherwise ignoring them

>>50436172
If somebody actually had this shit all painted, fuck yeah i would love to at least see it on the table.

In short, if someone want's to be a cunt they better have every horror model painted and accurate (so you can tell which type of horror it is)

Which of course no one, especially not meme-lords on /tg/ will actually bother doing

>>50436203
I did. It's important to note that almost everything will cause Instant Death to them since they're Toughness 1.

>>50436227
>GW will see the error in their ways
Anyone with more than a couple brain cells to rub together would immediately notice that the Split rule is obscene.

>>50436232
I don't look forward to having to reassure my opponents that I don't even own any Blue/Brimstone Horrors.

>>50436260
I should have probably mentioned Ideally with Tsons attachments to keep it semi fluffy.

>>50436242
BRIMSTONES
> 2 WOUNDS
> TOUGHNESS 1
> INSTANT DEATH'D BY FUCKING GROTS.

>>50436172
Very very few players will invest the time and money into an army like that just to play a couple of games before noone wants to play against it.

That formation wont be allowed in tournaments.

>>50436244
CAD
>HQ: Sorcerer 60pts
>Troop ×2: Cultists (50pts×2) 100pts
>LoW: Ol' One Eye

So probs in 750 or less.

>>50436296
that's old news bruh

>>50436261
my army usually consists of some painted models, many half painted models and many unpainted models, but usually they are at least primed.
I would prefer playing painted armys, but i am slow and i buy to much stuff
>>50436296
Halflings, too

>>50436263
They generate powers from change.
which has:
2-4d6 s5 shots
s5-10 ap2 beam
s5-10 ap1 blast
summon a assault d3 18" lascannon
sD weapon
and all these have +1strength in a warpflame host, with a further +1s if the herald takes the appropriate locus (but lets be real, people will only take the doublesplit one)

>>50436084
>inb4 next edition has the AoS summoning rule, making the split rule basically useless

>>50436318
but they only generate one charge a unit, yeah?

>>50436296
BRIMSTONES
> 2 WOUNDS
> TOUGHNESS 1
> INSTANT DEATH'D BY FUCKING GROTS.
>DARK ELDAR GUNS ARE S1 POISONED (4+)
>DARK ELDAR IS THE ONLY ARMY THAT WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE 2W.

>>50436302
You need to take MoT on both cultists units and also the sorcerer

>>50436282
>It's important to note that almost everything will cause Instant Death to them since they're Toughness 1.
yeah I don't consider brimstone horrors to be 2w models

>>50436250
that only counts for the one unit the herald is inside of.

>>50436284
sorcerer, 2 units of tzangors, magnus, in a CAD

>>50436336
Does he have a rule where he can ONLY be taken in a Thousand Son Force?

If not run them as a CSM force.
If he can only be taken in a Thousand Son force then you are correct.

>>50436326
horrors generate 2 warpcharges at 11+ models and 3 warp charges at 16+ models. so correct for summoned horrors and damged units. until the entire unit dies and spawns 20+ blue horrors, which would then generate 2 warp charges as long as they have more than 11 mdoels

>>50436326
pink horrors generate 1 WC for 1-10 horrors in the unit. 2 WC for 11-15 horrors, 3 WC for 16-20 horrors.
blue horrors generate 1 WC for 1-10, 2 WC for a unit of 11-20
brimstone horrors always generate 1 WC whatever the unit size

>>50436349
In a warpflame host, the locus affects all units within 12" of the herald.

>>50436366
>>50436374
>horrors generate 2 warpcharges at 11+ models
huh, interesting.

Weird how blue horrors are better at magic than pink horrors.

>>50436387
>horrors generate 2 warpcharges at 11+ models and 3 warp charges at 16+ models
>3 warp charges at 16+ models
no their not? I mean apart from the fact that a 1wc unit of horrors dying creates a 2wc unit of blues

>>50436363
Yeah, my bad. I assumed wrong.

What's everyone's LEAST favorite army?

>>50436398
>I mean apart from the fact that a 1wc unit of horrors dying creates a 2wc unit of blues
that's what I mean

The blue unit will be harder to kill down to WC1 levels, too.

So according the the wording on the Split rule, if you kill a unit of pink horrors in one go, they don't split, as there is no unit to place within 6" of at the end of the phase.

Special exception is given to RULES that completely remove the unit (assuming sweeping advance and posession, and perils result 1 fall under this), but not if the unit is entirely removed for any other reason

>>50436416

Space Wolves.

>>50436416

Tyranids... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>50436439
Additionally, any horrors killed BEFORE the point that the unit is removed entirely dont split as well, for the same reason.
If you kill all but one model in assault and they roll 12 on their instability test, you only get 2 blue horrors (as there was one model in the unit when the unit was removed) and the unit no longer exists to place the other blue horrors near to.

Does this mean the way to avoid the bullshit splitting is to kill the entire unit in one go? the OPPOSITE of the usual tactic which is "kill 1 model to drop them down 1 warp charge"

>>50435752
so Phil Kelly
> manlet
confirmed
Someone get down to WHW and give him a swirly and or wedgie. Then say "WHAT U GONNA DO ABOUT IT, NNNEEERRRDDDD?"

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>daemon players face when

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>>50436416
That we own? Dark eldar, I loved their older play style but the rule changes have been harsh on them and I dont like the current effective play style of talos and grotesque spam. I cant even play friendly games with my kabalites anymore

Least favorite that exists in the game though is probably grey knights. I dont have anything particularly against them there is just nothing I like about them where as most armies I can find something interesting in either their lore or army play style

>>50436469
>Does this mean the way to avoid the bullshit splitting is to kill the entire unit in one go?
From the looks of it, yeah. RAW is funny sometimes.

>>50436416
Space Corgis

>>50436416
fluff,rules, playerbase or combination of the 3 ?

>>50436416
Wolves

Got a lore question,
Apparently the fact that Logan, Chapter Mast... I mean Great Wolf, uses a literal Daemon weapon of Khorne is the reason the Imperium beats Magnus, how is the Imperium, GKs, DAs, and Inquisition present okay with him having and using such a relic?

>Although if the leak is to be believed I'm glad that the Wolves have to put down all the Fenersian natives exposed to the Daemons. A good nod to how the Wolves fucked up and learned from Armageddon.

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>Pask on a vanquisher+lascannon+plasma cannons & executioner buddy both of them with camo gear

is this a good idea?

>>50436475
>moonman demons in the official GW catalog
Aw shiet, is this real life?

>>50436302

I would totally let you take Old One Eye as a Lord of War choice for your chaos marines.

He might struggle without any synapse around of course.

>>50436533

Because Morkai, i.e. a feral world order-aligned warp god, suppressed the corrupting power of the weapon.

Though of course, the old gods of Fenris lost a lot of power from Magnus stealing magic from the planet. The Space Wolves are on their last legs and are on the brink of becoming corrupted, which is exactly what Magnus wants.

>>50436574

moonman has been a thing in 40k since 2013 fampai

>>50436586
>Magnus is currently in a legal battle with the Tyranids over the rights to Old One Eye
>His case is that he's been one eyed for almost 10,000s longer than the Carnifex.

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>>50436630
>since 2013
since 1988

>>50436630
I've literally been away for 10 years tho.

>>50436643
Dank. I've never seen than cute mini before.

>>50436599
>the old gods of Fenris lost a lot of power from Magnus stealing magic from the planet.

This sounds strangely similar to what Nagash did upon his return...

Warhammer 40,000: Wolf Times inc.

>>50436416
Sisters of Battle. Of all the fanbases, theirs is the most cancerous.

>>50436599
Wolf priests will fix it

>>50436642
>>Magnus is currently in a legal battle with the Tyranids over the rights to Old One Eye
>>His case is that he's been one eyed for almost 10,000s longer than the Carnifex.

>The Silent King sues Magnus for stealing the concept of undead space egyptians 65 million years after the Necrons patented it

>>50436498
Any of the three.

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>>50436668
the old chaos familiars are even cuter

http://imgur.com/gallery/Hl817
How am i doing, folks?
How should i continue about converting the Assault on Black Reach dread into a Venerable?

>>50436693
>The Silent King sues Magnus for stealing the concept of undead space egyptians 65 million years after the Necrons patented it

>Tzeentch being Tzeentch specifically set the stage to turn the Thousand Sons into undead Egyptians to get Magnus sued by the Silent King. His motives, as always, unknowable.

>>50436745
Cover the fucker in purity seals, venerable as fuck

>>50436416
Imperial Knightsm i hate them with all my heart

>>50436703
M-Moonman?

>>50436416
tau

one of the worst fan bases and some of the most incompetent players

>>50436703
Lunaire.

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>>50436703
God damn it, why isn't it in the choas familiar's pack from GW's store.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Chaos-Familiars-2016

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>>50436773
they remade him in Silver Tower, but he's less cute

>>50436786
im really nice and a strategic genius

you just really jelly of the greater good

>>50436823
>That naked catgirl
Lewd

That lil' Black Mage is awesome though

>>50436472
>Phil Kelly
Ya pleb

>>50436828

He's managed to decapitate a Sigmarine, and I can respect that.

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>>50436703

Shiit I didn't realise the new Silver Tower familiar was just a remake of an older model

Tomorrow i have an 823 points game ( yeah, i know, odd number, my opponent wanted to test a list that has exactly this many points, it will probably be an bunch of orks. He told me to bring my few models), this is my list

One of each assasin : 575 points
Cypher: 190 points
how do i spent the rest of my points ?

>>50436861
Or just found a head that was already severed.

>>50436885

Sigmarines zap home when they die, it pretty much needs to be freshly torn off.

>>50436884
>how do i spent the rest of my points ?
More assassins

>>50436903
i only have 58 points left, i cant fit any other assasin in there

https://youtu.be/0lU-t8gGVI4

>>50436918
An Inquisitor with some cheap wargear. He could be ML1, or have a CC kit of 3+ save + power sword + some gubbins.

>>50436918
An Inquisitior at PM1 and one Servo Skull is 58pts

>>50436952
>>50436952
i dont have the inquisitions codex, just the officio assasinorum dataslate
+ cypher dataslate

>>50436971

Then nothing. Why ask if you knew there was no other options?

>>50436993
maybe an aegis defense line for my sniper, in case there isnt enough cover....
Either that, or an manofactorum, which is pretty high, which means that i have LoS to every unit

Now that you don't even need to roll to hit with it, and he has a jetbike for mobility...

Ahriman letting off four psychic shrieks per turn.

>>50437030

AhREEEEEEEEman

can swooping hawks equip melee weapons?

>>50436948
So basicall Confirms everything and non daemonolgy brimstones anon has a point

>>50437062

For what purpose

>>50437030
Does he have a spell familiar now? If not then it isn't anything more to worry about

>>50437067
I just remember reading that they could somewhere but now that I'm trying to find a source saying they can I can't so I'm just verifying that I'm remembering something that never was because it seems they clearly can't equip chainswords or chainsword equivalents

>>50437014
You can always use the Battlescribe statistics. One Inquisitor is easy enough to memorise.
Also, Orks have shit leadership. Roll Telepathy and Psychic shriek the hell out of them. Or make your Eversor invisible for lulz.

>>50436296
Roll on some biomancy, Endurance will give them eternal warrior and FnP (4+).

>>50436416
Sisters of Battle. In a way, their fanbase is even more cancerous than Tau.

>>50437150
>wasting a 2 WC power on t1 units

>>50436013
Jesus Christ!
How horrifying

I've been pissing around fielding an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor with Hellrifle and Lv1 Psyker.

70pts and weirdly useful in a TONNE of situations.

>>50436574
The end is nigh, Earth is going to become a new eye of terror.

>>50437149
true, then i`ll just do it
thanks m8

>>50436416
Tau. At first it was just the online playerbase being cancerous at then irl when a few cheese mongers picked up the two recent campaign books.

>>50436013

No one on this planet owns enough horrors to do all the nonsense people are spouting.

And if they waste enough money to do it then more power to them.

>>50435752
>Comments are disabled for this video
Smart thinking in this case Gee Dubs

>>50437205

Plenty of people are gonna source 20 pinks, 40 blues and 40 bases of Brimstone though.

>>50437205
It is like the introduction of Malefic summoning all over again. I believe it went something along the lines of

"OMG I CAN HAVE 5000 POINTS OF DEMONS ON THE BOARD BY TURN 4, GAME BROKEN, OP COMBO WINS ALL TOURNAMENTS!1"

And then none of that happened. This just like that.

>>50435752
I love this.

Give me more retro style videos, GW.

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I miss non MSU Dark Eldar

--- Dark Eldar - 2000pts ---
-- Realspace Raiders (Because ObjSec is pointless with this list) --
>HQ
Archon: Agoniser, Blaster, Shadowfield - 140
Court: 4x Sslyth - 100
[Venom; Splinter Cannon - 65]

>Troops
5x Warriors; Blaster - 55
[Venom; Splinter Cannon - 65]
5x Warriors; Blaster - 55
[Venom; Splinter Cannon - 65]

>Elite
5x Trueborn: 4x Blaster - 115
[Venom; Splinter Cannon - 65]
5x Trueborn: 4x Blaster - 115
[Venom; Splinter Cannon - 65]

>Fast Attack
Razorwing Jet; 2x Dark Lance, Splinter Cannon - 150
Razorwing Jet; 2x Dark Lance, Splinter Cannon - 150
5x Scourges; 4x Heat Lances - 120

-- Corpsethief Claw --
5x Talos - 5x Haywire, 5x Chain Flails - 675
--2000/2000pts

>>50437215
its disabled on all their videos, which is both a remnant of when they didn't want to deal with social media, and also because half the people commenting will just be bitching about prices of everything.

So, he local Tau WAACfag now has 2 Stormsurges. I play Admech, and even when I do my best to kill the Jink+GtG drone net he uses D on my big stuff and kills my Kataphron Destroyers with LoS ignoring missiles. Please help, /tg/.

>>50437310
Get an ordinatus. Make him cry.

>>50436599
>The Space Wolves are on their last legs and are on the brink of becoming corrupted, which is exactly what Magnus wants.
>"Listen but closely Brothers, There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime."
All is not lost yet.

>>50437205

eBay will provide
Where eBay does not provide, China will provide

>>50437270

Why take heat lances on your scourges over haywire?

>>50437372
Little did Russ know, the southern rail drivers were on strike again!

>>50437270
to be fair MSU is much fluffier for DE since they're not really an organised army

also haywire > lance

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>>50437422

Surprised there hasn't been a model with a bullpup bolter released yet.

>>50437415
Lack of HW Blaster bits, variety of weapons and a little versatility

>>50437437
Yeah i know HW is more reliable for deleting Vehicles, but what if they don't vehicles spam?

>>50437461
>french space marines
please no

>>50437316
I'd love too, but our local GW has a "FW must be cleared with opponent" policy and he thinks all of it is OP as hell. Hypocrite.

>>50437281
Re-read what I said MR. historian, I said Smart move in this case. Implying that I don't normally think it is Smart.
Why is reading so hard for fa/tg/uys?

Do we know if Magnus is a LoW for Chaos Daemons or just CSM/TS?

>>50437461
There has, Dank Angels character with combi-plas.

>>50437484
Grab some knights then. Half of them are Admech aligned anyway.

>>50437517
Pic/link?

>>50435719
>group comes with some house rules thwey want to talk about
>tired of the random powers they want to pay 10 points per charge to choose the power
>OK.JPEG
>iron arm, etc ensues
>we don't care since everyone is doing it, we let ork bro to choose powers also from biomancy, telekinesis and telepathy, tau player is a tau player doesn't complain because riptides and shit
Strangely enough my group reached a state of homeostasis with psyker fuckery

>>50437531
>10 points per charge to choose the power
I think if you were operating on 3e/4e standards, 15 points per charge would be more accurate.

But yeah, random warlord traits/psychic powers are kind of shit.

>>50437483

> And they shall know fear

>>50437484
>tau player won't play against forgeworld

I swear this meme is almost always true. I love it.

Run an all knight list.

>>50437081
There's a formation in that he can harness on 3+

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>>50437529
The boss man himself in BL art.

>>50437529
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Angels-Azrael-Supreme-Grand-Master

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>>50437633
And in mini-form.

>>50437633
>>50437636
>>50437648
Thanks.

I like it. Definitely looks a lot better in my eyes than the "over-under" combi-weapons.

>>50437520
>>50437613

Yeah, but I'm worried that he will just blow it up with a D shot. Was going to get a Warden so I can run War Convocation anyway, may give that a shot.
I'm really quite new, only been playing a few months. Not quite got a grip on the relative dangers of units and what levels of power I am allowed to use vs. threats. Do you think a WarConvo would be acceptable? Game was 1600, 2 SS, 1 Riptide, an Ethereal hiding behind a building all game and a bunch of Drones.

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>>50437205
>Mfw I own 87 Pink Horrors
>Mfw I own 90 Blue Horror models
>Mfw I own 30 Brimstone Horrors
Fite me

>>50437661
It did cause some people confusion, and /k/ tried making improvements to it. There's a gif of it but I can't post it since I am a phoneposter.

>>50437648
Is that a Famas?

Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of kid-targeted line focused on small skirmishes using old sprues that was announced around this time last year and was supposed to be coming out around this time?

>>50437682
Looks like it.

>>50437678
>Fite me
Ehh. No. I probably just wouldn't play you. These horrors are just a flat out mistake.

>>50437118
just the exarch, you know with their 18" movement you might be able to pull off a turn 1 charge

>>50437689
What, that Battle for Vedros thing? Yeah, lots of plastic snapfit Marines on slotta bases and similar. It plays almost exactly like a Sigmarised 40k, with static hit/wound rolls and special abilities on every unit rather than generic special rules. I hope that means the "adult" 40k will lack all that stuff.

>>50437702
It's because I play Mono-Tzeentch daemons, and do an Apoc Game once a month. Also, I use Brimstone horrors as Flamers of Tzeentch.

>>50437689
Kill team?

>tfw was thinking about starting a Dank Angels army
>Friend who wants to get into 40k says he'd like to start the Dank Angels since they interest him
Looks like I'll go with my second choice and go with Khorne Daemons.

>>50437678

What possessed you to get that many brimstone horrors before they got 40k rules? Are you a faggy AoS player?

>>50435952
Wait does that also mean if you have blue horrors and pink horrors they generate their WC separately?

>>50437738
> do an Apoc Game once a month. Also, I use Brimstone horrors as Flamers of Tzeentch.
>Also, I use Brimstone horrors as Flamers of Tzeentch.
> use Brimstone horrors as Flamers of Tzeentch

>>50437709
Yeah, that was it. I thought it was cool when I first heard about it because they seemed inexpensive and would be good for my kid relatives.
I just checked the website, they only sell them in-stores, though. Maybe I'll go to my FLGS and check if I can order through them.

>>50437735
This happened to me too, In the end I went with MT and my friend eventually moved onto Eldar.

>>50437735

Split a Dark Vengence box!

>>50436298
>That formation wont be allowed in tournaments.
Won't it? I've never heard of an individual formation being banned in a tournament before.

>>50436823
Titties/10

>>50437738
I enjoy running 3 maxed out units, because it's retarded.

>>50437030
>first turn ahriman pulls up next to a wraithknight and then psychically cripples it into submission

bueno

>>50436172

I can't wait for the heat death of the universe to come

>>50437484
Get it from chinaman instead, tell the cunt that it isn't a forgeworld model.

>>50437738

I don't intend to ever play AoS but
>implying 40k players are on some sort of high ground regarding game choice

IN THE GRIMDARKNESS OF THE GRIMDARK FUTURE THERE ARE ONLY BULLSHIT RULES AND NEGLECTED ARMIES

>>50437310

Call him a faggot and refuse to play him.

Failing that, run a list entirely built to fuck up whatever he runs. MSU tiny infantry or whatever. I'm not familiar enough with Admech to know what would work tbqh

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>>50436681
>>50437153

>>50437709
To be fair, if you're doing fired up orks versus marines then having stuff wound on a flat 4+ isn't too bad, that's what they'd be wounding with anyway with shootas/sluggas/bolters/punches. It's not necessarily pointing to an AOS-ifying of the rules when most of the To Wound chart wouldn't be used anyway.

I am the 20th Primarch

>>50436773
cant you see

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/28/the-eye-opens-and-the-legions-return/

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So we all know that Bolters use a .75 calibre round that work almost like the Gyrojet rounds, and producing those would be a very costly operation; would it be wrong to build a mock-up functioning Bolter that fires 12 gauge slugs to recreate the experience? Since the bolt is essentially just a metal block that cycles via blowback, it would probably work.

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Help me design a marine chapter based on the Berwick Upon Tweed town coat of arms.

>>50437310
>Jink+GtG drone
they can't do it anymore, as per FAQ.

>>50438035
>Special rules with names like “The Butcher’s Nails”, “Many Heads of the Hydra” and “Iron Within, Iron Without” bring the well-loved background of the Heretic Astartes to life, and will be available to any detachment or formation pledged to the appropriate Legion (much like their loyalist brethren have access to Space Marine Chapter Tactics).
>In addition, every Legion gets a Warlord Traits table, Chaos Artefacts and a dedicated Detachment of Formations, further rewarding armies that mirror the Legions as they appear in the background.
FUCKING FINALLY

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>>50438035
There has never been a better time to pledge yourself to the powers of Chaos.

Hot on the heels of Wrath of Magnus comes Traitor Legions, a 136 page supplement to Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

We know that loads of you out there with Chaos Space Marines forces like to theme your army around one or more of the nine original Traitor Legions that followed their Primarchs into heresy at the very birth of the Imperium.

This book is for you.

The Traitor Legions can now be represented on the battlefield more faithfully than ever before.

Each of the nine gains Legion-specific rules that are thematic, characterful and powerful in the game. They reward a player that picks units appropriate to that Legion’s way of war.

Special rules with names like “The Butcher’s Nails”, “Many Heads of the Hydra” and “Iron Within, Iron Without” bring the well-loved background of the Heretic Astartes to life, and will be available to any detachment or formation pledged to the appropriate Legion (much like their loyalist brethren have access to Space Marine Chapter Tactics).

In addition, every Legion gets a Warlord Traits table, Chaos Artefacts and a dedicated Detachment of Formations, further rewarding armies that mirror the Legions as they appear in the background.

You can pre-order this book from this weekend, and will need a copy of Codex: Chaos Space Marines to use it.

>>50436554
Not the best, but I run that build and it gets the job done. Sure scares the shit out of monstrous creatures

Dammit, I really want to run a LibbyDread.

But I only play 1k.

Am I a bad enough dude to run a 175pt HQ in a 1k game?

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Spanish WD teaser.

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>>50438043

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I'm trying to actually get into the game now, and I want 1500 points. I've got an old Tau battleforce and a unit of Fire Warriors and a broadside.

In total I have:
1. 12 fire warriors w/ shas'ui ×2
2. Unit of Kroot carnivores
3. 1 crisis suit (lol)
4. Devilfish
5. Broadside (missiles)
6. 3 stealth suits.

What should I be going for next? I want a riptide, I'll probably get onr for Christmas from a buddy. I also want a Ghostkeel to go with my stealth suits. Any input would be appreciated.

>>50438064
20000% erect

>>50438093
topknot and trophy spikes?

I wonder what it could be

>>50438035
I wonder if the thousand sons will get an alternative decurion in the legions book.

>>50436416
grey knights

>>50438035

Fucking thank the Dark Gods.

inb4 GW makes no changes to the units except a 1 pt cost decrease and the WL traits are shit and the Formations are huge and can't be taken with less than 1650 points of pre-selected mandatory models

>>50438043

>Bears
>Woods
>Justice
>Red and blue

Writes itself rilly.

>>50438114
Its possible they may get a "legion decurion" as opposed to the more sorcerer/rubricae focused decurion in wrath of magnus

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What lord of war options do Militarum Tempestus have? Can they only take knights or could they take say a Stormlord?

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>>50438098
>What should I be going for next?
>I also want a ghostkeel
get the tau battleforce that's coming out soonish

broadside, pathfinders+devilfish, more stealth suits, commander, and a ghostkeel

>>50438073
>tfw can't use these with KdK.
>still no new models for everything
Sadness.

>>50438090
Do it faggot

>>50438064
>it's literally angels of death and blood angel supplement with traitors legions names
Mark my words
>iron warriors=iron hands detachment
>alpha legion=Raven guard detachment
>world eaters=flesh tearers detachment

>>50438154

You're a supplement in all but a technicality, of course you don't have lords of war.

>>50438165
I don't care. It's something.

>>50438165
That would be hilarious and awful all at once

>>50438157
Hot damn, how much is that going to be? 300?

>>50438165

What about the Alfalfa Legion?

Post your Black Friday steals /tg/

For me I got a box of prospero burns for 80$ and a box of terminators and grey knights for $35 total

>>50438154
Pretty much the same ones Astra Militarum have access to

>>50438138
it wont change units, it's just going to allow you to give them some extra rules on top of their datasheets

Thinking about it, these split rules basically guarantee that in 8th edition 40k they'll use a Reinforcement Points system and you'll be force to pay for any horrors you want to generate with split as well as any summoned units. The only way it makes any sense that this got out the door is if they're looking ahead to what they know is coming and we only have to deal with complete absurdity for a few months.

>>50438195
170$ or so. 100£.

Will Black Legion get a new set of Legion Tactics? Their current ones don't really fit, aside from Chosen as Troops.

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>>50438035

>Each of the nine gains Legion-specific rules that are thematic, characterful and powerful in the game.
>powerful

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>>50438035
B-but what about Orks.

>>50438239
That's actually fantastic, I'll look into it. Thanks.

>>50437849
Hah. That would be ideal, but newfag. I don't even know how I might go about ordering from Chinaman.

>>50437896
Was planning on just that, but Riptides and Surges have few weaknesses, Gargantuan rules are just way better than Superheavies.

>>50437911
Fair point. Maybe they'll add one if they expand the line to more than Orks + Marines + Bikes.

>>50438053

Excellent. I did attempt to point out that dodging while hugging the floor is a tad bullshit, but he didn't listen.

Thanks Anons, I have 2 Dragoons, 5 Infiltrators and 5 Ruststalkers just built, I imagine fast melee may cause him to freak and FIRE EVERYTHING at my 45pt walkers. One can only hope.

>>50436013
Rumors are saying pink horrors can only cast tzeentch powers

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>>50438165

>CSM players get their own unique rules
>cry and bitch
>CSM players get SM rules with chaosified names
>cry and bitch

Can GW ever win?

>>50438327
There will be those that argue the RAW "all psykers can generate from daemonology"

>>50438347
with the chaos fanbase? never

>>50437150

can't FNP if insta deathed, eternal warrior prevents losing both wounds at once, but you still can't take FNP save

>>50438347
>chaosniggers have had legion rules for a long time

I still don't get it.

>>50437310
>Jink+GtG drone
They Tau FAQd it saying you can't do that.
If he counters that the Tau FAQ is a draft, which he will because he's a WAACFAG, refuse to play him.

>it's the only way to win vs their kind
>let them spend hundreds / thousands on plastic. The moment they start breaking the rule of fun (that win or lose you both should be having fun). Stop playing them. Enough people do that and there's no one left. Unless they go to a tournament, where they'll fight their own kind.

>>50438387
No they haven't.

I just want one update to get everything. We have like 10 fucking books and data slates all piecemeal rules.

I may be missing some:
Chaos Codex
Deamon Codex
Black Legion
Crimson Slaughter
Khorne Deamonkin
Helbrute data slate
Cypher data slate
Belekor data slate
Wrath of Magnus
Traitor Legions

>>50437900

So now all the tzeentch releases are out of the way, when will we start seeing leaks from codex imperial agents?

Will there be plastic sisters with it or are they later next year? There where rumours of a plastic canoness in December, but some people where saying it was a sister of silence hq, which would make sense if they're a faction in IA.

>>50438409
You forgot Malal.

>>50438404
Okay. I'll be using my Legion Astartes: Iron Warriors rules. Along with all of the others.

The new rules are going to be disappointing. Just like every other chaos space marine release from GW.

>>50438388
Right. Plan is, borrow a Knight Warden from a very good friend of mine, drop a WarConvo on his face, test his skills properly. If even my newfag army can hold up to him with the WC buffs, then he isn't as good as he likes to pretend.

After that, win or lose, drop the WAAC formation BS and go back to playing the Guard/Bangles/Chaos players with my normal lists again. Fuck that, I want proper games.

>>50438427
Two weeks probably. Traitor Legions leaks will be next week and IA is the week after.

>>50438439

So has GW.

>>50438409
traitor's hate

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>>50438093
NEW ABADDON

>>50438480
He is due for an update, that's for sure

I don't know if someone posted it before, i don't even care.

Just have this shit https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/28/the-eye-opens-and-the-legions-return/

>>50438480
now with
>scenic base
>detachable arms
>optional topknot

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>>50438093

Daemon Primarch fags about to get BTFO again!

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>>50435719

Are Genestealers OP?
They look really cool as an army, the aesthetic is great and I like the playstyle.
But between the balls-out power of Hybrids and the sheer number of Ambush tables to roll on, I'm not sure if I'm actually playing or just EzRolling to victory.

>>50438587

They're the bottom end of high tier. Powerful but still fun to play with and against.

>>50438226
So they do have access to the baneblade variants from escalation?

>>50438093
Qué guay :D

I'm sorry.

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>>50438523
>>50438035
so what i need wrath of magnus book, csm codex and traitor legions book to play a thousand sons army? huh

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Leaked photo of the new Abaddon model.

>>50437786
Many tournaments already ban Eldar Corsairs specifically.
Then there's the ITC (Yes, I dared to name them)
Then there's the few "local" tournaments which try to keep things in check

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>>50438691
>ITC

>>50438688

Also IA:13,Traitor's Hate, Chaos Daemons and Daemonic Incursion.

>>50438599
That really depends on how they are played.

If your opponent cheeses formations to spam the characters and the genestealer rape formation, they you're going to have a bad time, with half your army engaged in melee by turn 2 at the latest.

Some armies can deal with reliable turn 1 deepstrike/infiltration, armies like Guard on the other hand get torn to shreds because they don't have a single thing to counter it.

>>50438710
well fuck

>>50438691

>ban eldar corsairs
>keep craftworld eldar the same

Life is unfair.

>>50438612
No, They don't have any LoW choices themselves,with Escalation no longer being a thing. Basically you would have to take an IG detachment that has access to LoW or use the Cadian formation which is 1-3 baneblade variants.

So no way to get them inside your own army, but can easily be allied in.

>>50437786
No formation will be banned, but the Split rule will almost certainly get FAQ'd away by the ITC.

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Should i give my new DA company master a relic blade or a thunder hammer?

>>50438770
give him magnets

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wut

Curious, but which legions or forces have the most pull with the Traitor Guard?

I'm figuring it'd be the Iron Warriors or Black Legion or the Red Corsairs if in the Maelstrom.

Also, is it ever explained how the Haradni 13th made off with 10,000 tanks?

I thought one of the reasons for the Imperial Guard and Navy being kept separate was to prevent traitors from getting transportation or escaping.

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>Traitor Legions
>just special rules, formations, relics and warlord traits
>no characters, other unique units, or weapons

>Imperial Agents
>NINE (9) FACTIONS IN THE BOOK!!!!!11
>there will probably be maybe a maximum of 2-3 units per faction, also a lot of it is redundant since they've been released before so like who the fuck cares

>>50438480
/tg/, what will we do if Abbadon gets a new model that doesn't look silly? Will we have to like Abbadon if he has enough arms? What if Abbadon has six arms and none of them come off? What if Abbadon fights the Plastic Sisters of Battle and there's just arms fucking everywhere? What if the arms hold me down and go all over my face and mouth?

I am scared.

>>50438809

Why are people so fucking hyped about uppriced dice

Just get the damn dice cube

There's less of those and they don't even have a scatter dice

>>50438809
GW have the strangest notion that faction dice should be collectibles and so only produce them in limited numbers. Because money is for gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays.

>>50438844
lel

>>50437030
But you can't cast the same power more than once on anyone I thought?

>>50438830
Wait really? so it's just 1k Sons getting this kind of treatment?
Fuck, I was expecting this kind of stuff for the rest of the legions too...

>>50438844
Faction dice are lucky.

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>>50438831
Get a hold of yourself, man! You've got arm madness!

>>50438831
>/tg/, what will we do if Abbadon gets a new model that doesn't look silly?

He's literally a helmless, pale terminator with a topknot with a skull in it

WIth one oversized lightning claw and one spiky sword with a face in it

A huge trophy rack

And all this warmaster of chaos bling

Trust me, his model will look goofy as all fuck no matter how well it's executed.

>>50438833
>>50438809
>>50438844


They are Rubric Dice. They are filled with dust and the souls of the dice before the Rubric was cast.

They are also AP3, come with a 4++ invuln and in true Thousand Sons fashion, are about double what they should cost

>>50438809
GW dice roll like shit
Why would anyone buy them when bicycle dice are a thing

Does the Imperial Agents codex mean that Deathwatch, GK, SoB, SoS, Custodes, Assassins etc. are getting rolled into one combined army?

Why would they do that? Deathwatch, GK and SoB have been standalone factions for a while now

>>50438831
we cut his arms off since it's plastic

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>>50438831

There's nothing wrong with his model. This silly meme didn't even originate from his model, but of an unfinished bad wip shot of an Abaddon bust.

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Will the Word Bearers be able to take lesser daemons as Troops again, without having to use an allied detachment?

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If I I want to paint my Skitarii in white cloaks, should I paint the mechs white as well?

Pic related, not mine though.

>>50438932

>that pube

come on man

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>>50438876

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>>50438906
Given the dataslates for custards and SoSages had different faction icons, I suspect not.

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>>50438457
>tfw you'll never be relevant again.

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>>50438873
as long as he stops being small.

>>mfw Typhus could also get huge soon

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Take from this what you will/can.

I think this may be the place to go as I don't know where else ,where is a good place to sell a job lot of my old models quickly with little work any help is appreciated

I want to get into 40k, I'm picking up some models to paint.

I really want to play the game, but none of my friends are into it.

I went to my local GW to pick up the Total War DLC code, and the shop was full of kids. I'm 26. How do you guys find a groups for adults, do GW sometimes do adult nights?

>>50438770
give him a spear and a horse send the winged hussar on a charge against the enemy.

>>50438972

So he actually costs more than a Daemon Knight.

Well, as long as he justifies his points.

>>50439001
This seems like something you probably should ask the guy who runs the GW.

How many abaddons does it take to kill horus, tabletop?

I think this may be the place to go as I don't know where else ,where is a good place to sell a job lot of my old models quickly with little work any help is appreciated

>>50438906
No. It's just a collected allies book.

>>50438770
Mace of Redemption.

>>50439026
30k Horus? It would take a few. He's brutal.

>>50439001
Some do, yeah. Either check the store's facebook page (even the opening hours should tell you - if there's an evening they're open late that's probably the hobby night). Or if you can go there sometime when there aren't loads of kids and get chatting to the redshirt they'll probably know what's going on with the local scene.

>>50438972
His unique power alone allows him to potentially make his points back in a single turn. He's the perfect psyker to dump all your charges into, manifests on a 2, doesn't need LoS to hit stuff with those powers and cannot peril.

>>50437484
>>50437310
>>50438448
Then don't play against him, it's that simple.
People like that can KILL communities if you let them roam free, tell him that he should either learn to tone down his list to his opponent's one or he can grab his stormsurges and stick them up his asshole. Thight lists are for thight games, not for weekly ones.

>>50439001
Where are you?

>>50438861
I want Idriss Krendl for maximum obliterator spam.

>>50438926
They said they will have an ability to summon daemons without psychic powers but didn't say how.

>>50439044
This,and a stormshield.

>>50438972
What's the crown of the crimson king say?

>>50439087
That's the plan. One last go at a win, since I've gone to all the trouble, then back to the fun games where I can charge my Stormlord full of Fulgurites into Guard blobs and everyone actually has fun.

>>50438038
>Blowback 12 guage slugs
You need a recoil or gas operated locking mechanism.
Straight blowback is possible but it'd be really heavy and incredibly finicky.

>>50438972
>no eternal warrior
I can't wait to psilencer him first turn.

>>50439166
It says eternal warrior, right there

>>50439166
Are you actually blind?

>>50439166
Are you blind, m8?

>>50439166
Did you fail an initiative test?

>>50439166
Do you read with your asshole?

>>50438972

Finally, a use for my Pylon.

>>50439166
i fear you have a terminal case of stupidity anon

>>50439148
magnus has line of sight to every model on the battlefield when determine targets of his psychic powers.

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>>50438945
>custards are 260 points, only 10 more than TSons scarab terminators
>more attacks, better stats, better weapons, ap2 at initiative, 2 wounds WITH Eternal warrior

Yeah but that 10 point gap makes up for it so all is fair and balanced

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>>50439166

>>50436172
This would cost over 10000$.
Seeing as you can only get brims from silvertower game atm.
If people want to use that strat don't allow proxies or conversions for them.

Am I the only one excited for the Tzeentch specific Warpstorm table?

>>50439148
Crown give him 4++ and never suffers perils.

>>50439166
Is this the birth of an epic new meme?

>>50439215
Yeah, but Scarab Occult get a Mastery Level 2 Sergeant who loses one of his powers to Discipline of Change.

>>50436296
ID by fucking conscripts
fuck grots
conscripts are literally cheaper IIRC

>>50439166
Are you a fucking rotor cannon?

>>50439217
Dont have the details, but the guy with the book had this to say:
>ranges from hurting a friend or foe to create a chaosspawn, taking your unit off the board to deep strike them next round, harnessing on 3+, warpflame flamers, both players getting rerolls, cheaper psyker powers, potentially everyone getting hit by warpflame, create brimstones, possession, to creating a Lord of Change.

>>50439166
What kind of sub-human are you?
Wanna die?

>>50436416
Tau
fucking commies MUH GREATER GOOD, and riptides

Eldar that spam STR D

Imperial knights for not belonging in 40k and should have stayed in apoc

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>>50439199

>>50439215
They don't get ap2 if they want an invul save, and the tsons terminators come with a 4 stock that can be improved. Tsons also have significantly better ranged firepower with 2 heavy weapons per 5, a lvl 2 psyker and ap 3 bolters. Not to mention deep strike capability. So it's not like it's a straight comparison.

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So, I was thinking about making a Carcharodons army. Any ideas?
Iv'e actually thought about purchasing World Eaters from Forge World and painting them like pic related, but I don't know if that would be way too expensive.

>>50439166
Look again you stupid, meme-beast.

>>50439148

it just works

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>>50439199
Godamnit anon.

>>50438972
>Leman Russ is finally out
>always denies the witch on 2+ even if he isn't the target and up to 12"
>dissarm special rule
>sword is +2 S
>axe gives him rampage and force rerolls at invulnerable saves
>hates+rage vs Magnus
>HH rules + broken new rules
>325 pts
I can already see it