Space wolves BTFO

Furries salt when?

>>50425163
Can ya give me a TLDR? Love it when yiffs burn in hell.

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Now on to more 13th crusade

>>50425200
>post thread saying space wolves were getting BTFO
>wolf fags swarm into thread saying magnus will job and lose
>5 different TS vs SW salt threads

>Magnus BTFOs Space wolves
>wolf fags nowhere to be seen

How will they ever recover?

>>50425163
You know what, Good for you Magnus you deserved it. Emprah knows after all the stupid shit you went through, especially getting your ass beat by Abbadon because ADP gets a hard on Whenever he thinks of Abby and his "Magic sword", you don't deserve to end up like Mortarion: a stepping stone so that someone else could look cooler. I'm legitimately happy for you.

>>50425214
>Logan gets BTFO but egil sacrifices himself to save him. This buys time for Logan to wound Magnus with his khorne axe while everyone shoots Magnus until he warps out.
> Logan leads The remaining wolves to cadia, and sells out fenris citizens to the inquisition because they were exposed to daemkns. Fenris is kill.
>Migardia is pretty much destroyed. >Magnus wins and steals the power of fenris, and the planet of the Sorcerors warps into real space.
>The dark Angels get exposed by the changeling.
>The daemon primarchs return and start aiding the crusade

>>50425456
Sounds gay

>>50425434
This. He fucked up a lot, but he was always either being played by another or genuinely meaning well. It doesn't make up for what he did, but it puts him above most chaos characters. Good for him.

>>50425456
> Logan leaves his own people to die after starting a Civil War over Armageddon's fodder for the same reason
Damn son.

>Primarch thread

Black Libary and the people who do this shit were a mistake


Why could we just say the emperors sons did shit but noooooo we gotta expand on 30k


There hasnt been a good BL book in ages the last good one I read was Xeno Hunters and that was just fucking short stories

>>50425456
Oh my god

The plot is moving

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>>50425456
ITS A FAMILY REUNION OF THE MILLENNIA BROTHER VS BROTHER ITS THE SHOWDOWN OF THE AGES


IT ALL TAKES PLACE ON CADIA MAKE SURE TO BUY YOUR TICKETS NOW

>>50425515
>Black Libary and the people who do this shit were a mistake
Black Library was/is a mistake, however this is pure GW skub this time around.

>>50425485
Do you think he is pissed at Tzeentch for all that happened?

>>50425456
>Magnus wins and steals the power of fenris
This needs to be better explained. What is the power of Fenris? Is it their belief in their gods? If so then how was it stolen? Why was this power being stored? Why are there no scans?

>>50425717
Undoubtedly, but I'm pretty sure Tzeench owns his Soul now so I don't think there's much he can do about it.

>>50425738

You know all the hot air about Fenris being Magic, and the Wolf Priests not drawing from the Warp but instead magic from Fenris?

It's all true. The world itself is one big magical realm, and Magnus steals it so he can drain Fenris dead and bring Sortiarius to realspace.

>>50425434
>especially getting your ass beat by Abbadon because ADP gets a hard on
Magnus was still all sharded at that point, and it wasn't Abaddon it was the mary-sue khayon who 'bested' him.

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DON'T ADVANCE THE PLOT OF A SETTING

JUST WRITE MORE SHIT LIKE CAIN, GAUNT'S, OR EISENHORN

WRITE STORIES IN A SETTING, DON'T HAVE THE SETTING BE A STORY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50425500
That was my first thought, too.

>>50425794

Fuck you I enjoy this, and I'm happy it's happening and what you like isn't happening.

>>50425794
Agreed 100%

A setting is not a story. Autistic fucks that get caught up on 'advancing the time line' just end up shitting the bed with stuff like Age of Sigmar.

>>50425777
Post source mate because that still doesn't explain everything.

>The world itself is one big magical realm,
This still relates to the warp as draining it allows Magnus to bring Sortiarius into real-space.

Belief shapes the warp so if all Magnus did is corrupt that then it still makes sense.

>>50425456
>
have we actually got source for this? considering the book isn't out for another week yet?

He still got banished and laughed at by Khorne before it was all over though

Blood god still the best

>>50425777
>You know all the hot air about Fenris being Magic, and the Wolf Priests not drawing from the Warp but instead magic from Fenris?
>It's all true
I can't believe people still inironically look forward to GW fluff when GW's current writers are certifiably retarded.

It's gotten so bad company wide I suspect even the next Imperial Armour will be shit

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>>50425777
>The world itself is one big magical realm
>plannet of Furries
>magical realm

Intentional or not Anon, that made me chuckle.

>>50425847
>The world itself is one big magical realm,
>This still relates to the warp as draining it allows Magnus to bring Sortiarius into real-space.

Actually it has nothing to do with power or the warp, it just means it's a place full of people with bestiality fetishes.

>>50425772
How much focus does Tzeench need to keep him at bay, with how powerful Magnus is would it be possible for him to get his soul back?

>>50425794
The only people who still buy from GW are the mentally handicapped living off their parentally supplied stash of NEETbucks. It's only natural a company panders to its buyers

>>50425500
H doesn't have an option at this point. Armageddon he was on an even footing and he still almost lost.

Now his home system is fucked, the population of Fenris is decimated and his chapter face excommunication.

>>50425888
Impossible. Tzeentch doesn't just own his soul, it's a part of Tzeentch. He is simply an extension of Tzeentch now whether or not he realizes. That's what being a daemon is.

>>50425876
Nah mate your just making shit up now. Youre offering no evidence for your claims and they make no sense.

Pretty good bait though.

Other important point, remeber how in a Thousand sons he said he could have destroyed the space wolf fleet of he wanted to? Well that's exactly what happens this time. Magnus won this campaign so hard it isn't even funny. Furries truly and utterly BTFO

>>50425898
Fenris only lost 10% of its population? That's not too bad.

Mixed feelings about this.
On one hand, the setting seems to be advancing and that only portends terrible things. GW is way to incompetent right now to be trusted to do anything like that, nevermind that it's a setting not a story.

On the other hand. The yiffs dying is pretty fucking hilarious

>>50425932
0/10.

>>50425919
Damn shame, I'd love to see him break free and forge his own psyker empire.

>>50425932
Every person who was exposed to the daemons in any way was executed by the inquisition. Logan agreed to this.

>>50425919
You forget the Tzeentch is the most schizo of the Gods.

He literally schemes against himself.

>>50425975
Is the Inquisition so murderhappy because they want to keep daemons a secret or are they afraid of taint?

>>50425971
He shouldn't have sold his soul to the devil then. I don't care that he didn't know what the Chaos gods were at the time. What fucking culture doesn't have a story of hubris and the Faustian bargain going horribly awry? That's like basic shamanism tier narrative. Magnus was dumb as a bag of rocks from the start. He reads books. He should know damn well what he was getting into just on common sense alone.

>>50426005
Both. If people know about daemons, they will inevitably become tainted just by thinking about them. Your average person just doesn't have the strength of will to not be corrupted.

>>50426017
Not saying he didn't make mistakes I would just like to see him at least try to make up for them.

>>50426005
Because they have to be. Go look up what happened after Logan let the survivors of Armageddon escape.

>>50425996
Yes, but anything he does is still Tzeentch doing at this point. If he breaks off and forms of a splinter group, it's still Tzeentch just punching himself and he could stop at any time if he really wanted. Ahriman is kinda in the same boat, but not quite. He still has the presence of mind to not become a literal psychic extension of the Dark God.

>>50426043
The Volscani are the best example. They were allowed to live after fighting daemons and then sold their souls to chaos and massacred the Cadian High Command

>>50426017
Oh no arguement against that, he fucked up hard. It's just that, him being one of the most human Primarchs and his life both before and after Heresy has been a series of unfortunate events, it would be nice to see him give the middle finger to the manifestation of Fate itself and try to redeem himself.

>>50425968
I'm pretty sure it's 1/10.

>>50426090
Redemption is good, but it doesn't really mean much if no one actually gets punished at some point. Magnus reportedly fucked up the absolute hardest of anyone in the whole setting, he got what he deserved. Ahriman is a better story of redemption, because he's fucked up on a much smaller scale and isn't literally a dead man.

>>50426005
The inquisition is like chemo therapy.
>Drink this poison and we'll hope the cancer dies before you do.

Except the cancer is immortal on grows stronger from your suffering.

>>50425456
>The dark Angels get exposed by the changeling.
The what?

>>50426043
>Go look up what happened after Logan let the survivors of Armageddon escape.
I can't find it. What DID happen?

>>50425794
The plot and setting need to change a little bit every now and then, otherwise every story ends up being "status quo: the wargame: the novel"
Now that those fat furry fucks are at Cadia, what will they do now?
Now that Sortiarius is in realspace, how long before Magnus starts his own empire, with knowledge and hookers?
Will Emps finally fart another warp storm up?

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>>50426114
>Magnus reportedly fucked up the absolute hardest of anyone in the whole setting, he got what he deserved.
Sure he did.

>>50426150
The Emperor is a rotting corpse and his golden empire is a metaphorically rotting corpse. He also got his. That said, Magnus played an enormous and almost entirely independent part in the Emperor's downfall. There are arguments to be made about the Big E not telling him or trusting him with enough, but it all boiled down to Magnus's tragic hubris. It's sad and unfortunate, but sometimes things have sad and unfortunate endings.

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>>50426033

This is bullshit, we see demons everywhere in 40k - even basic guardsmen are and can be exposed to them. They're constantly fighting chaos whether it be traitor legions, renegades, insurgencies etc.

Even then, how do you explain places like Cadia? The Imperial population must know about chaos, at least like we know heaven and hell. Otherwise this is lore that is contradicted constantly, or is kept secret from inner, inner core worlds that don't have to deal with war.

This secret is cracked open the moment a guardsmen fighting chaos goes "yeah bro, demons n sheeeeit" while on tour on another planet.

GW needs to establish if chaos is treated as a grave threat to the Imperium - something it's populas is aware of, or is completely in the dark and any who encounter them are mind wiped/killed.

>>50426215
Basic guardsmen are exterminated after fighting demons. The Inquisiton knows it's too dangerous for that knowledge to get out.

>>50426229
What about for Cadia, are they given special treatment, I mean they don't have the time to tell anyone and will die before any heresy happens.

>>50426215
I thought it was generally stated that those guardsmen are generally executed unless they already have a long history of fighting Chaos.

People like the Cadians all know about Chaos and the Inquisition trusts them with that knowledge, but if one of them went to your average hive world like Necromunda and started telling people the Inqusition would come down hard and none of the people there would have any idea what he's talking about. Chaos is fairy stories for your average citizen at most, literally unheard of for a great many.

>>50426215
>How do you explain Cadia
Eisenhorn does:
>This is Cadia, you silly fool! Cadia! Right on the doorway of Chaos! Right in the heart of everything! The seepage of evil is so great, I have a hundred active cults to subdue every month! This place breeds recidivists like a pond breeds scum. This is Cadia! This is the Gate of the Eye! This is where the bloody work of the Inquisition is done!"
If Cadia wasn't so strategically crucial it would have been exterminatusd 10000 years ago

>>50426229

But chaos warbands summon strange shit all the time and are using all kinds of demonic magic.

denying chaos exists seems like a very old piece of lore, because the extent of chaos shit these days is wide spread, they're the bread and butter of the setting and always posed fighting space marines.

>>50426204
>but it all boiled down to Magnus's tragic hubris.
Yes and I never want that to change.

I just don't accept people saying he 'deserved' it. Youre missing the point of the tragedy if you simplify it like that.

>>50426245
>People like the Cadians all know about Chaos and the Inquisition trusts them with that knowledge,
That's fucking dumb. There are literally millions of Cadians deployed around the Imperium, and the Inquisition trusts literally all of them to keep their mouths shut? That's either bullshit or Cadians are the specialist snowflakes in the setting.

>>50426281
They are literally trained from birth to be soldiers, the brain washing for them is probably strong as hell.

>>50426215
There are two levels of it, same with us.

Most people know about the Betrayals in general, but probably see the Demons as allegories for co-conspirators. They probably think that people who were 'corrupted' were just convinced to fight for the other side.

When you meet an actual 40K demon on the battlefield, even if you win, it's too late. You know it exists, it did things that should not be done, and probably has access to lost technology. It's probably branded in meme weaponry, where even trying to just recall what it looks like imprints in your mind how to summon it. This is the part the Inquisition doesn't want.

>>50426296
>They are literally trained from birth to be soldiers
That can be said for so many armies in this setting, it means nothing.

>>50426272
Like pretty much all such details, this varies from writer to writer and book to book. Sometimes you have chaos mutants on every street corner, sometimes there is only subtle internal corruption. Whatever the story needs.

>>50426296
I thought that "Brain-washed Mr. Roboto" was the Kriegers whole stichk while the Cadians were the "G.I. Joe Bland Band". Or was that changed at some point?

>>50426323
Cadians have been raised from birth to defend the Cadian Gate since at least fifth edition.

>>50426245
>People like the Cadians all know about Chaos and the Inquisition trusts them with that knowledge
no they don't

Cadians that go up against full out daemonic incursions get """retired""" unless there are special circumstances that require an excess of veteran fighting troops. And even then, they'll go for a mind-scrubbing if they have the time and resources available because holy shit that is just a time bomb waiting to explode.

People way high up on the totem pole can get away with knowing about that shit despite the risk because their knowledge is irreplaceable, but regular grunts are expendable and get treated as such.

>>50426310
How does it not, for Guardsmen that is not the norm, Cadians don't have a normal life and are very far from the norm, much like the Death Korps.

>>50426323
Not saying they are entirely brainwashed but the whole chaos thing needs to be kept under wraps somehow.

>>50425793
>the mary-sue khan
Holy fuck he really is. His wiki article is hilarious. and reads like a bad fanfic character.

>During the Great Crusade Khayon served with the 548th Expeditionary Fleet. He was nearly killed in battle while bringing a world named Varayah to Imperial Compliance, when his Drop Pod was shot down.

Khayon was also present at the Battle of Prospero, where he defeated a Space Wolves warrior Eyarik Born-of-Fire, and acquired his Power Axe, Saern, that would serve him well in the centuries to come. Being gravely injured in his fight with Eyarik, Khayon once again survived near-death experience when a Fenrisian Wolf came close to tearing him apart. He was saved, however, by his familiar Gyre, which possessed the wolf, obliterating it and assuming its shape permanently. Khayon was not taken by Magnus the Red to Sortiarius, and wandered the surface of Prospero until he was found by Lheorvine Ukris of the World Eaters.

Khayon later made his way to Sortiarius and stood against Ahriman as he was trying to cast his eponymous Rubric of Ahriman. Khayon failed to interrupt the spell, and the Rubric was cast nonetheless. He departed from Sortiarius on the warship Tlaloc with his brother Ashur-Kai Qezremah and the newly-turned Rubricae Mekhari and Djedhor. Together they formed the core of the Ka'Sherhan warband.

Khayon was present at the Siege of Terra, and bears grave resentment towards the Emperor's Children for their flight from battle and leaving the Thousand Sons without reinforcements.

>Hamfisted into all important TS battles
Check.

>Special snowflake circumstance during all important TS events
Check.

>Special demon familiar otherwise known as plot device
Check.

>Is super powerful (despite not being important in the legion) and goes against the wishes of the Legion and Magnus
Check.

I wonder if this fuckers eyes change colour lmao.

>>50426360
>he mary-sue khayon
Fucking auto correct. I even copy pasted that ffs.

>>50425456
So the wolves are kill?
Fuck, fuck, fuck. Fuck you GW. Not the wolves.
Fuck you.
At least give them back Russ then.

>>50426601
Well there's rumors that russ and the other surviving primarchs will return, and Logan is contacted by russ at one point in the story

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>>50426360

Talon of Horus book? I vaguely recall it setting the record for "how special is YOUR character?" in WH40K.

Holy shit, when I reached the part where Abby made all the Daemon primarchs tap out and say uncle, I almost puked ... but was a little glad inside. I never liked primarchs ... or space marines.

>>50425163
>>50425456
Did Ragnar Blackmane stab Magnus in the eye again?

>>50425456
>The dark Angels get exposed by the changeling.
What go exposed? The existence of the Fallen or something darker?
Any chance that they are going to turn to chaos?

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>>50427605
No, this time he stabbed him in the ass with frostfang to distract him from killing another wolflord. He almost gets killed but lukas goes all jackalwolf and saves him with an epic troll which leaves Lukas's current status unknown.

>>50425898
If we go by some of the earlier fluff, "His chapter face excommunication and the population of Fenris decimation" was something Logan was VERY willing to accept over Armageddon. Like, the Inquisition was straight-up knocking on Fenris' door with a fleet and about to launch a crusade against it with Logan still going "Fuck you I'll drag you down with me".

Then again the fluff re: Armageddon and whatnot changes with every new story so...

>>50427874
How many characters were killed off?

>>50425931
Got proof?

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>this whole thread

>>50426360
Khayon could be Ygethmor or Zaraphiston. So he there before.

>>50429374
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1416

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1418

Same guy has posted pictures of the book on Dakka and B&C.

>>50429322
You too. >>50429896

>>50425522

The Plot moves...

>>50425794
Ehh if the story can be done well (and there's one or two writers at BL that can write well) than I am fine with more story development; show needs to move on at some point.

ive been busy the past few days, what the fuck happened?

>>50430577
magnus won, space furries blown the FUCK out.

>yfw Magnus is Trump

>>50425932
decimation means reduction to one tenth.

>>50430625
>decimation means reduction to one tenth
No it doesn't, it means removal of a tenth.

>>50425163
I'll just be over here coping with the knowledge that GW is actually fucking advancing the story.

>>50426277
I mean, it isn't even tragedy if they truly deserve what happens. It can be the result of their actions, but no what they deserve. Did Othello deserve what happened? No. Was it still his part? It was as much as what happened to Magnus was.

>>50430625
No, it means removal of a tenth.

>>50425932
It's 10% more than magnus has accomplished in any other operation.

>>50430654
>>50430664
So it does. At least in the roman understanding. The meaning has changed over the millennia to mean grievous losses at this point.

>>50430686
>The meaning has changed over the millennia to mean grievous losses at this point
Only by the ignorant.

>>50430698
Well then it should only be used to mean a military punishment of killing on tenth of a roman army, if the meaning of words isn't allowed to change.

>>50425794
Normally I agree with you but Thousand Sons players are finally getting a bone thrown their way AND Space Wolves are getting their shit kicked in after all the ire they've earned.

It's too sweet a drink to not enjoy some.

Besides, Our Dudes are still busy doing whatever they're busy with in other sectors and systems. The story may progress some in places, but in others it won't be affected much if at all by that progression.

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>space furries nowhere to be seen ITT
Truly BTFO, they are so mad right now

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>>50425163
>>The dark Angels get exposed by the changeling.

Run that one by me again. Did their hunt for the fallen get exposed or just tgat tgey commit borderline treason every other campaign.

>>50431647
Apparently both. Either way we need the scans before we can talk about this stuff properly.

>>50426245
Cadia sends a tenth of all regiments they raise as a tithe or at least to do off world campains.

>>50430725
> He thinks this isn't a set up for Space Wolves to make an under dog comeback and kick the shit out of everyone
lamo. This is like plot 101.

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>>50425456
>best wolf lord sacrifices himself
>Fenris is still lost

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>>50431525
They fucking deserve it.

Never forget Prospero!
How much of a bandwagoner would I be if I started a Thousand Sons army now that they got new models? I have always liked them the most of all the Chaos marines, but they had such old models until now.

>>50425163
Who or what is the Changeling?

>>50431806
Well seeing as there will be no bandwagon since the rules are shit

>>50431834
Tzeentch's shapeshifting Daemon.

>>50431834
It's one of the Horrors of Tzeentch, that can change its form to fuck with people.

>>50425200
plenty of salt mines on FB

>>50431860
most people don't give a fuck since 40k is not a valid competitive game

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>>50431806
are those chain-khopeshes?

thats-i don't ev-

why?

>>50431888
Why not?

>>50431883
Really? Why?

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>>50425456
Sounds like what you might expect from the writers of Age of Sigmar. I expect this to be followed by Russ returning, taking back the power of Fenris and setting up the Space Wolves with fresh geneseed.

>>50431888
They're power swords.

>>50432038
Nope, Russ comes later.

>>50432046
would be cooler if they were chain kopesh desu

The Axe of Morkai hit the Crimson King, wounding him. "Aaaaaaaaargh" Screamed Magnus, "You da-WHAT?" falling from the sky came down an array of drop pods. Over the vox came a much loathed cry he knew all too well: "Haters Shall Hate!" Everyone, Wolves and Sons, watched the dreaded pods come down. "NO!" screamed Logan and Magnus in unison "Not them!"

Out from a pod, behind the flock of escaping birds, came a being the cyclops had not seen in ten thousand years- a tall warrior in supremely glorious golden armor: Ollanius Partridge. As a chorus, the Primarch and his marines let out their battle cry, "All Glory Belongs to the Partridges!" Unable to see through the flying plumage, the interrupted marines could do nothing to intervene. A thousand glory stealing marines shot at Magnus the Red and anyone in the way, while Ollanius Partridge charged. "This shouldn't be happening!" the Daemon howled "You're supposed to be dead!". The battle between Primarchs would have been brilliant to behold if not for the blinding gleam of the glorious armor of the Emperor's greatest creation. For an hour they fought. But, in truth, the daemon was little match for his much greater opponent. Ollanius swung Glorioso, The Supremely Glorious Sword of the Glorious Primarch. It hit. "Curse you, my undeniably superior brother! aaaaaaaargh" And so the Crimson King was banished, and his sons quickly routed.

For saving Fenris, the wolves pledged their loyalty to Ollanius Partridge, admitting that he was better in every way than their own gene sire. Soon to join them were the Dark Angels and inquisitors in orbit. On the eve of M42, Ollanius Partridge was named Warmaster of the Imperium, and the emperor's official representative. All was well
>the end.

>>50425163
PRAISE

>>50425163
>fenris isn't even destroyed
>magnus was thrown back in the warp
>santa claws still alive

what did magnus's wrath entail exactly? having the inquisition purge the natives? steal whatever special snowflake power fenris had? warping out the planet of sorcerers?

what was the point of those actions?

>>50431867
l-lewd!

>>50432285
All the Fenrisians die = Wolves die.

>>50432285

>>magnus was thrown back in the warp

What the fuck is that worth when he immediately warped back along side his own whole planet?

>>50426120
Maybe they mean Cypher?

How can Logans axe have the power to wound Magnus but not the power to corrupt Logan?

>>50432430
Easy.

Lorgar is PURE

>>50432444
Well, I'm sure Lorgar never had sex.

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>>50432458
I am doubting how any fully grown primarch could.

Fucking space babbies are ENORMOUS.
Seriously, I don't think they do not need to..like SM.

>Cleverly deflected Virgin-Bashing, back to my daemon-praising.

>>50432380
I don't know, but still sounds a shitty way to do when winning

>>50431772
>Fenris is still lost
Sort of. They didn't blow it up like Midgardia so it leaves them wiggle room to restablish it in the future whenever they get around back to Wolves.

Although, It would be interesting to see them take SW in a direction that isn't the Maximum Yiff we've gotten in recent years. Also makes me wonder what they'll do with Runepriests.

>>50432360
Assuming Magnus's fuckery with the Canis Helix is still in effect.

>>50432573
Why would you assume otherwise?

>>50432601
I'm not assuming anything, just proposing hypotheticals aside from "It's fucked, shut it down". Momentus shit happened. Perhaps the draining of Fenris drained the curse alongside it.

In the short term it doesn't really matter. 40k time will slow down as we spin out this Black Crusade. I'm just thinking about long term assuming this isn't the literal start of the 40k End Times. If that's the case then it's all moot.

>>50425163
Rubrics still suck

>>50432643
The wolves arent under a curse. The Canis Helix is a part of the people of Fernris, and now the SW themselves.

Wait for the scans, Im sure it's not as bad as it seems. And if it is? Well then just think of it like Khaines gate for the Dark Eldar. Its something that wont matter soon because shits fucked anyway.

>>50432672
I expect Russ to show up and become a geneseed dispenser.

>>50432689
Hey there you go you solved it. SW will just be less wolfy with no wulfen.

>>50432689
Yep. They've explicitly established the conditions for the Wolftime.

>“Listen closely Brothers, for my life’s breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying. Then my children, I shall list’n for your call from whatever realms of death hold me, and come I shall no-matter what laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime.”

>>50432701
No, the geneseed will come with wolfity wolf wolf built into it. GW would never ditch the wolfening because they are thick.

>>50432710
Ehh. The "wolf all the things" shit is pretty recent. I could easily see them going back to where it was just iconography and funny teeth.

>>50432745
Not with GW's current standards of writing if Age of Sigmar is any indication.

>>50425163
SCANS FUCKING WHEN?

>>50425246
They won't.

SQUAD MORALE, BROKEN!

Sorry, I forgot, these are space yiffs.

SCUD MORAL BROKE

>>50432273
Now that's a zesty meme right there.

>>50430725
>but Thousand Sons players are finally getting a bone thrown their way AND Space Wolves are getting their shit kicked in after all the ire they've earned.
>t. Chaos fanboy
.

>>50432273
Nice one.

>>50432861
t. Butt-flustered Loyalist

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>>50430625

>>50432913

>Using a comic as a source

Anon are you slow in the head?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(Roman_army)

>>50432971
What goes on at Necromunda is also not the standard zeal of the Ecclesiarchy.

>>50432971
i think you are the slow one to think i used it as a fucking source instead of using it as a joke since that whole page is about the redeemer not knowing how decimation works.

>Be Wolf player
>Confirmed Logan still alive
>Russ will be coming back

Feels good man

>>50432971
Not to scale model
>the joke
>space
>Van Allen belt
>atmosphere
>litosphere(you are here)

I never read what happened at Nikea, I just know from word of mouth.

But you're telling me that the whole Wolf Priests being magical and not psykers is not only actually true but the Emperor diden't do jackshit about Russ LITERALLY USING SORCERY but he bitches at Magnus for doing it?

What was even the fucking point of Nikea? Piss off Magnus? Wouldn't the result have forced Russ to also stop using his Wof Priests?

>>50425456
>>50432038
That kinda sounds like the whole Realms/Winds of Magic from Fantasy/Sigmar, actually.

Are they going to try and sell us the idea that each of the Primarch's planets is special now?

>>50433060
Probably.

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>>50426128
This, I'd like to know more.

>>50433039
Sorcery is using the Warp, in the 40k context.

They weren't using the Warp, so no Sorcery.

>>50433142
>They weren't using the Warp
>This is what Space Yiffs actually believe

>>50433151
Because that's what the actual book says. They were using power from Fenris.

>>50426258
>This is Cadia, you silly fool!

I like that despite being a setting where brutal, zealous space knights fight demons with chainswords, no one seems to swear in 40k.

>>50433151
According to the new fluff this is now canon. This is exactly what the writers wants you to believe.

>>50433158
>They were using power from Fenris
Lmao. This will never get old

>B..but were special!
Till you get a proper source you've got nothing.

>>50433170
>This is exactly what the writers wants you to believe.
all fenris agents, I tell you

>>50426043
Planets with survivors got Exterminatus'd?

>>50433170
All Im seeing is no source Anon. If you have a scan please share it.

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>>50433189
The guy who's been saying this has shown pictures of the book.

How much more proper do you want?

>>50433239
I don't have to. This is exactly the kind of bad writing GW does now. Have you not seen Age of Sigmar and Warzone Fenris?

What the fuck *is* this magical power inherent to fenris? Literally all "magic" in 40k up to this point has been linked in some way to the warp, but not for the wolves because they're speshul?

>>50433247
That actual fluff. Not some guys shitty summary lmao.

>>50433254
>I dont need a source
>My shitty fear mongering is good enough
K.

>>50425163
>we Dindu Nuffin, it's all the wolves fault!

Thousand Sons are the niggers of marines

>>50433269
I figure that Fenris is/was basically a safe pocket from Chaos, kinda like how Eldar Soulstones work. Hell, Exodite Eldars uses planets as deposits for their souls as well to keep them safe from Slaanesh.

>>50433269
Massive Psychic Nid Creature.

>>50425456
>Magnus wins and steals the power of fenris

What is the Power of Fenris anyway? The power to eat sausages and to lick your own balls?

>>50433285
>Head canon intensifies.

>>50433290
it's obviously a c'tan. mars can ahve one in it, why can't fenris?

>>50433293
Magnus is going to become a furry now.

>>50433309
>now

Anon, birds are still furries.

>>50433315
But birds don't has fur, they have feathers.

>>50433293
Its the warp like always. SW are just ignorant.

>>50433329
Why would Magnus need to steal it then?

>>50433026
>B-but y-you yiffs a-are BTFO, f-f-furfag!

>>50433341
You tell me you've apparently read the book and understand what that guy meant right?

Oh wait no you haven't and your just assuming you know whats going on

>>50433321
They are still classified as furries

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>>50433315
Then he is going to upgrade into Otherkin.

>>50433356
If SW didn't get their asses handed to them, you'd accept the summary as proof.

>>50433375
>Just believe my theory with no evidence
No.

To be honest i never liked the space wolves but i still blame Lorgar for everything

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>>50433450
Its all the emperors fault. Mistreat your altar boys long enough and this is what you get.

>>50432910
>t. Butt-flustered 40k fan
fix

>>50429633
Khayon could also be the outsider! Or even the emperor himself! Your stupid idea is stupid.

>>50425794
One one hand I disagree due to hating static settings.

On the other hand I understand your Khornate Rage since the last time GW moved the plot it resulted in torching Warhammer Fantasy and replacing it with Age of Skubmar.

The point is that if you really need to move the plot on, then you should do so carefully and little by little.

Iron Kingdoms in general do the above and it do well. Because they advance the plot little by little without doing anything extreme, then the setting advances without changing drastically.

GW's plot advancement is a result of people not knowing exactly how or what to do with the plots of their games.

If Warhammer Fantasy needed a change, then they could've done it in a different way than AoS did.

I'm in for the whole realms thing if they would've done it in a much closer way to the Nine Worlds from Norse Myths. They did it, but basing each realm on one of the Winds of Magic is...very questionable.

Also if the fact how they named the new factions (aka: Stormcasts) and how they renamed the existing ones is...rage inducing.

>>50433505
And you didn't read the novel, you piece of shit.

Ygethmor and Zaraphiston were mentioned in the novel. He says that they are just titles and implies that he might have had them at one point.

>>50433639
>implications
I reject your headcannon

>>50433276
Well only Magnus is at fault here for using Sorcery to warn Emps, but it is also Horus (because he screwed over Emps's orders to Russ), and of Russ (mainly for being a retarded executor and not trying to confirm the orders).

>>50425163
I thought the Wolves won? Didn't they push Magnus off planet again?

Was there an unambiguous victory for a non-Imperium faction in a major narrative event? Seriously I will cry tears of joy if the Space Wolves finally just outright lost a military conflict with the Thousand Sons. About time.

>>50434046
dude they lost, the planet was strip over of its magic peyote to be used to bring the planet of magnus into reality, he got back to the warp but returned with the planet, and the sw sold all their people like niggers

>>50433357
I had to start to explain, then stop myself and instead explain that I was saving a measure of her innocence and sanity by not explaining, furries to my mother a few days ago.

She sounded half-serious when she joked 'Oh, so your own innocence...?' when I was finished. I could only shake my head and half-seriously give a nervous chuckle.

I wish I didn't know that they seriously split it up into sub-groups, like 'featheries', 'scalies', etc.

Of course, a feathery is still a furry, just like neanderthals were still humans.

>>50425889
oh look a poor person

>>50432273
Years ago created and it never fails to amaze.

Poor Logan...

>>50425163
Except rumours show that SW push TS away and beat magnus back. Magnus brings his sorcerer planet into the materium. SW took a beating but both sides kinda won?

>>50434095
I don't know...when the Tsons lost on Prospero they had to flee or face destruction.

This just sounds, again, like Chaos lost the battle but then said it had some other objective (summoning the planet) and claimed victory with that. Not to mention I highly doubt they lost the planet. If Fenris is going to be of no use at all anymore they could have just had Magnus won, if its still under Imperium control then its probably still going to just be rebuilt.

Still waiting for one of the major chapters to just outright lose militarily in these stories.

>>50425163
Space yiffs will never recover!

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Lmao @ all the space furries lives.

>>50426132

>Now that Sortiarius is in realspace, how long before Magnus starts his own empire, with knowledge and hookers?

Im pretty sure the whole hooker business is more of a slaanesh thingy

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>>50425456
LORGAR MODEL WHEN

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>>50425163
SW player here to say I'm happy for you, its cool to see Magnus and the sons get the spotlight and do something with at least a decent impact.
I would have been saddened if we lost fenris,as I would have been saddened if you lost ahriman.

Looking forward to having a read and seeing what cool shit the ksons pull off.

>>50434674
Fuck off, yiff. Nobody cares.

>>50425163
Doesn't...really seem comparable though. I mean Prospero was totally destroyed. The Wolves still held Fenris.

>>50434495
>This just sounds, again, like Chaos lost the battle but then said it had some other objective (summoning the planet) and claimed victory with that.
Has there ever been a case in the important parts of tge fluff where this ISN'T what happens?

>>50434674
Well its a nice sentiment. We'll have to wait and see though. Wolves were still able to push Magnus and his armies off so they didn't 'defeat' them the way Russ did. Still kinda hoping that eventually a major Imperium faction just straight up loses militarily.

>>50434722
>Implying Magnus won't just stretch out the torment of the yiffs for 10k years so that they are even

>>50434732
No, but that's what I'm complaining about. Is it too much for GW just to have one of the major Imperium factions just militarily lose in these supplements straight out? No vacilating or face-saving just lose and get smashed.

Kinda get sick of how invincible Marines are in the fluff. Particularly the big named Chapters like Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Ultramarines and such.

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>>50425163
Where did hairyman fuck up this time? or is the traitor now doomed to be irrelevant now that big red is back?

>>50426601
Get shit on, dogfucker.

Will we finally get daemon Angron?

We will get:
Magnus
Angron
Mortarion
Fulgrim
Perturabo
Lorgar
Russ
Lion
Khan
Guilliman
Corax
Vulkan
Dorn
maybe Alpharius and/or Omegon
Abaddon resculpt
maybe Typhus resculpt
maybe Lucius resculpt
maybe Fabius resculpt
maybe Cypher resculpt
maybe Luthor

>>50431860
>tfw 90% of the hobby is painting for you, with a game every month or two
>new models come out you just wanna paint with no intention of using
>people call you a bandwagoning asshole

Why can't I just paint?!

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Is this that 40k End Times I've heard about?

>>50425456
>The daemon primarchs return and start aiding the crusade
I'll just be in this corner waiting for my plastic Angron...

>>50434735

>Still kinda hoping that eventually a major Imperium faction just straight up loses militarily

Don't the Skitarii get shat on by Crimson Slaughter and Word Bearers in Traitor's Hate? And the only reason the forge world isn't completely overrun is Blood Angels and some Knights show up to help?

>>50435240
Uh...they still lose. I mean the Imperium still wins. As usual. Not sure what you're saying.

>>50435246

They accomplish their objective though, they just don't get to keep the planet.

>>50435246
Astra Militarum offen loses. I wouldnt be surprised if cadia gets obliterated soon.

>>50435281
Their objective isn't completed yet. They are awaiting it to be completed, it may yet be foiled by the incoming Grey Knights and Tech Priest who has knowledge of how to defuse it.

Not that that would change that they still did not militarily beat the Imperium.

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>>50432745
>Wolf Scouts
>Wolf Guard
>Wolf Priests
>Wolf Lords
>Great Wolf
>Canis Helix
>Wulfen
>Wolfbrothers
>Wolf Helm of Russ
>Russ who was a "golden man-cub with eyes like a wolf-king" raised by wolves and accompanied into battle by his wolf-brothers who led countless wolf-packs of their own
>the wolves of Fenrisian legend, taken as emblems by the Space Wolf Wolf Lords, including the Thunderwolf, Sun Wolf, Sea Wolf, Fire Wolf, Wolf of the Red Moon, Spirit Wolf, Iron Wolf, and the Great Grey Wolf, Leman Russ himself
>Wolf Lord Ragnar Blackmane's famous Wolf Battle Howl


>>50433163
"Shit" is as high as BL dares to go (while main studio stuff, of course, stays well below that). On rare occasions a character might begin to drop an F-bomb but they'll always be comedically cut off before it fully lands.

Eisenhorn has a few instances of shit, though IIRC Eisenhorn himself only uses it once, in his narration (there's also a part where he makes reference to "hive retards"). Inquisitor General Neve, the source of the Cadia quote, only goes up to crap and bitches.

>yfw in Legion the Imperials say fug :DD

>>50435596
Again with the lies. From Necrodermis, to Night Lords, and now the F-word? When will you stop.

Imperials say Frak. A lot in the novels and sourcebooks.

>>50426215
Why were Warhammer Fantasy humans so superior?

Seeing a Daemon just gives them PTSD, and basic knowledge of the Warp is common.

Daemons corrupt by actually influencing, not by flashing the camera like Nessie.

>>50435596
Most of those are just names. I'm talking about shit like Thunderwolf Cavalry and Halloween monster style Wulfen.

Fur shitters on suicide watch

>>50434439
TS won. SW managed to avoid losing completely. They certainly didn't win.

>>50433594
>replacing it with Age of Skubmar
Given your attitude I doubt you'll care, but AoS itself actually has a slowly, but constantly advancing storyline.

>>50430622
I doubt Magnus would lose the popular vote to Russ.

>>50430718
The Imperium is Roman inspired, so the authorities decimating a population obviously means removing 10% of it, unless you're retarded.

>>50436934
No, this was literally another "we won but the bad guys did some stuff that doesn't really matter" no really important named characters did and santa claws is alive

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>>50436808
>why were warhammer fantasy humans so superior?
superior husbandos.

What did Ahriman do in all of this?
He is my #1 nigga and I would like to know.

>>50425842
I reckon they ain't gonna go full end times. They're gonna advance the plot then stop before the end.

>>50430698
Ignorant of what? They're the ones who know what it means now, you're the one who doesn't.

Seems like you've fucked yourself stupid.

>>50436968
>Advancing Storyline

Yep, and sadly it also produced 8-grader syndrome-tier bullshit like Nulahmia.

Nu. Lahmia.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

>>50437370
Yep. There are rumors that 8th ED will go from an hour to DOOM to a minute before DOOM.

>>50431713
they ain't gonna make an underdog comeback, everyone on Fenris just died, who grew up on Fenris and disappeared a while ago, said to return for the Wolf time That's right it's papa furry time

>Sisters of silence symbol on a door said to contain something that can unmake gods
Anyone else thinks it's The Black Pariah ?

>>50426096
kek

>>50432400
the changeling is a shapeshifting daemon of tzeentch, he once pranked khorne by putting nurglings on his throne and laughed when he sat on them and they popped all over his immortal ass.

>>50434984
at least two of those are dead.

>>50437831
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's Corax.

>>50437504
It's literally just the sisters of silence, they secretly have been rebuilding this whole time and are about to make a comeback in mkdern 40k.

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>>50436895
Wolves riding wolves was merely the next step in a path they'd been on from the moment someone decided "Wolf" should be anything more than part of the Chapter's name and its symbol. They already had wolf names, wolf gear, wolf origin story, wolf religion, wolf seed, wolf senses, wolf men, literal attack wolves... When the Space Wolves were bringing their furry friends into combat, it should have come as no surprise that they'd eventually get wolves big enough to mount in a new sense.

And regarding names in particular: people give AoS shit for its names (well, its everything; the nomenclature is just one common and easy target), yet even in the early 90s, Space Wolves were already on the same tier as Bloodbound Blood Warriors and Bloodreavers. Wolfsecrators when?

>>50437699
He's also (possibly) going to be responsible for the first ever fallen Grey Knight.

>>50434984
>GW End Times is going to be Horus Heresy 2: Electric Bugaloo
>Xenos will be utterly irrelevant with all these Primarchs running around
Fan-fucking-tastic. There better as hell not be any "Age of the Emperor" shit going around.

>>50437908
Supposedly one loyalist primarch is going to turn traitor or be revealed as a traitor all along, and a daemon primarch will be redeemed somehow.

What if some Primarchs go all fuck it, you suck and joins the xenos?

>>50433501
Jesus, I can hear the Text to Speech and the background music

>>50438083

Xenos were ALWAYS supposed to be irrelevant. They were supposed to be npc races that offered contrasts and insights into the Imperial protagonists. GW is just being explicit about it now.

>>50438159

Nah, it's because the best-selling box where most of the profit comes from is tactical marines.

>>50438110
Kinda want one of those cases to be Mortarion. Poor fucker has nothing going for him.

>>50438110
I hope it's Guilliman through poison/slaanesh corruption, maybe that would finally add some flavour to his chapter instead of being sues. It'd probably be Corax that gets back to the side of good.

>>50438159
Then why did the build them up? Why establish Necrons, Tyranids, and Orks as potential galaxy wiling events if they're supposed to be irrelevant.

I'm just saying, GW is going to piss off a bunch of their players if they just push Xenos to the side. Hell, even the undead and Skaven had their time in the sun during the End Times.

>>50438280

I hear that one of the plans is to go full 30k.

>>50438159
>Xenos were ALWAYS supposed to be irrelevant.
technically incorrect, because ALWAYS includes rogue trader, where chaos did not originally exist

>>50438280
Bro, Chaos has always been called the biggest enemy in the setting, both in and out of the fluff. It was always going to be chaos at the end times, not fucking anyone else.

Xenos are just one episode baddies to spice up the story between seasons until Chaos shows up to steal the show again.

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>>50425794
>No story advancements in 20+years
>One Primarch appears and fucks some shit up
>REEEEEEEEEEE

Are you autismo boy?

Next Age of Strife, when?

Anyone have anything on that whole rumor about a Demon Primarch coming back to the loyalist side. Sounds too retarded to be anything but a rumor

>>50426272
>denying chaos exists seems like a very old piece of lore
And it's one of the prime example of how shitty and oppressive the Imperium really is. Getting rid of it would only enforce the belief that the Imperium of man is a decent enough place (I know some people who think it's like modern west but with poverty)

>>50438280
People are idiots, the xenos races are going to be featured. Orks are getting a new beast and probably all those things mentioned in the beast arises series like dreadnought sized nobs and orkustodes. The eldar are getting combined into one faction and will be fighting alongside the imperium. The Necrons will be split in 2, those that unite under the silent kin and those who are enslaved by the returned void dragon. Tyranids are getting more super biomorphs. Tau will continue to force themselves into being relevant. In the end, it's going to be everyone vs chaos. Everyone, even the tyranids and necrons

>>50438518
Tau singularity and going full borg?

WE ARE THE GREATER GOOD

>>50425456

What was all of this from? I heard nothing about it and can't see anything on their site

>>50438927

Curse of the Wulfen part II.

>>50438927
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/5f0dwa/wrath_of_magnus_story_literall_all_the_spoilers/

>>50438857
More like going full Federation.

>>50438989
Voyages of the starship Greater Good when?

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>>50438857

Go full Combine.

>As a Wolf player be excited we're actually having fluff matter beyond Armageddon one.
>All the TS fans are acting like children saying "Furries BTFO"

I'm just happy that the Wolf Time is upon us and Russ is going to return.

>>50438475
>it turns out to be

Magnus, Russ found him in the Warp and they retconciled and bonded and the entire invasion is a double bluff

>>50439082
>Russ is going to return
Yeah, so a Fenris that's practically empty and a mostly fucked chapter and system. Won't he be pleased.

>>50438475
It's Alpharius. He was loyal all along and just playing fuck-fuck games with the galaxy until the other Primarchs stopped crying over the Heresy and decided to show up again.

>>50439153
Yeah, just like he planned to do.

Space Wolves always get bloodied, this will be great.

I hope the Wolves get their Spirits back though, it sounds interesting with Non-Chaos Spirits.

>>50439153
He wouldn't be returning if it weren't.

>>50438987

Thanks! is it from a book or just general updates?

>>50439209
>Alpharius is Loyal
>He's drawing out all the chaos Primarchs to kill them off.

>>50439136
Russ' long play to leave barbarian planet.

>>50439209
By Alpharius, do you mean Omegon Alpharius or just Alpharius because I was under the distinct impression that he was dead as fuck and his brother picked up the mantle. Unless it's more Alpha legion dickery which certainly isn't out of the realm of possibility

>>50439251
>Also, he was Cypher all along

>>50432861
Generic chaos has gotten GW love, nurse and khorne get it, TS have had a lot of nothing till recentlt

>>50433039
It was a formality to shut magnus's overly curious mind down, placate the pleabs and was riddled with loopholes to ensure the imperium could still function

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Return of Our King fucking when?

>>50439586
He already gave up, Magnus doomed humanity more then Horus ever could, without the we way project humankind is fucked and nobody can change that, not even the emperor

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>>50433039
>Lorgar stop worshipping me
>mechanicum keep doing what you're doing

>Magnus stop fucking with the warp
>navigators keep doing what you're doing

The Emperor was a hypocritical faggot.

>>50439613
>top primarch with many critical duties to ensure a secular future
>usefule idiot savants who can be cleaned up later

>critical golden throne/Web way component known for dangerous curiosity
>necessary evil that can again be cleared out once no longer needed

>>50439613
You picked the worst counter examples.
If Lorgar had nicely stopped worshipping the Emperor, nothing would have changed really, and if Magnus actually did stop fucking with the warp he'd be a loyalist and the webway would be safe.

The Mechanicus refused to stop doing their machine god thing and keeping it was a condition for giving the Imperium technology back. While if Navigators stopped there would be no FTL.

>>50439666
>>50439660
This, it's only hypocrisy on a surface level when taken without deeper context

>>50439607
>He already gave up
He trusts humanity and we should trust him too.

>>50433293
World Spirit. A natural Infinity Circuit.

>>50439739
So his plan... is to force the ruNE priests to be just like the regular psychers they despise

>>50439666
See that's where the story becomes a matter of free will. Is it better to secure a future for humanity where they have no freedom or a crapfest doomed to go out explosively where you live free. You can't really see the consequences of your actions so who can say, but they certainly made their choices.

>>50439724
He trusts us to fight as long as we can in a loosing war out of pure spite for chaos, he declared us already lost

>>50439894
Then we should fight, what's the point of just giving it to chaos fucks? As long as there is at least one human- there is still hope.

>>50440020
>this is what Imperiumfags believe

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>>50440039
>"It's ok to bend over and take it, there is no choice anyway!"
Chaosfag logic everyone

>>50440020
The point is that there is no hope! Chaos will win. This day, the next. Years later it matters not, the ending has been fucking spelled out in stone by our very champion!

>>50440122
When the conclusion is the same with or without effort, why bother?

>>50440155
Out of respect for yourself? Out of spite? Because there may be another way we don't know off yet? Why the fuck would you just give up in front of the personofications of evil in the universe? Are you a pussy, anon?
>>50440135
That doesn't mean that we can't fight for as long as we can.

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>>50440135
>There is no hope
Someone didn't read the main rulebook.

>>50440217
I can't respect myself when the emperor himself gave up hope

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>>50440241
>emperor himself gave up hope
If he gave up hope he would have died a long time ago. He lives so humanity might survive.

>>50440217
>I can't respect myself
There's your fucking problem, you are a fucking pussy. Can't even fight the power.

>>50440155
>>50440135
Because your faction is shit. Your morals are shit. Your concept is shit. Your protagonist is shit. The circumstances of your victory are shit. Your just shit all around. Your faction would be nothing if the GW writers weren't bad edgy fanfic-tier writers, wanking off to how super-kewl their darling child Chaos is and what "deep" and "talented" writers they are for being so Grimderp.

That is why we will do everything we can to make each step you take a pain in the dick. Because we hate you and want you to be as unhappy as humanly possible.
t. Necronfag

>>50439607
Just... build another one?

>>50440020
As long as there is at least one human there is no hope because in 40k humans are fucking pricks.

>>50440297
Chaos is cool

Necrons are cool

Imperials are cool

Eldar are cool

Tyranids are cool

Orks are cool

Tau are cool

Pirates are cool

The many other obscure races and factions are cool


Stop being shitlords guzzling the kool-aid and enjoy the various brands of dickery you have to choose from.

>>50440343
>because in 40k humans are fucking pricks.
You could say that about every race in 40k really, except, arguably, the Tau.

>>50440297
he says, not realising he himself can do literally nothing to affect the outcome of the story.

>>50440231
yes but the emperor is basically about to die.

>>50440155

Because you might die before the conclusion and live in eternal peace within the God Emperor, faggot.

>>50440316

>NO! IT'LL TAKE TOO LONG! FUCK IT, SLAANESH CAN RAPE ME!

The Cultist's Response.

>>50440377
GW belive in sins of the father and humankind reaping what it collectively sows, this idea that all humans suck and deserve their misery

>>50441297

GW is well established as being fucking stupid when it comes to that kind of subtle shit, Anon.

>>50441388
What I don't understand is why they like it, stupidity fascinates me, i try to understand the mechanics of the thought process, what drIves GW to think such edgy crap is deep?

>>50440297
Until now, I did not have the words of why I despise most chaosfags so much until now. Now I know them.

Thank you anon.
t.Ork/Imperial Guard fan.

>>50441419

I prefer my 40k Nobledark, where you CAN change how shitty everything is. Which, honestly, is how it is.

Every loyalist Primarch (Yes, even Ferrus) could come back and lead their sons in defense of the people.

The Custodes are fucking around off of Terra to save the Emperor.

The Mechanicus has been trying, and succeeding, to rebuild the entire STC to give the Imperium's enemies a nice dick kicking, and based on the CSM vs SM Codexes, have been doing a pretty good job.

40k has set up such a dark setting that, if it were actually grim, we'd have already lost.

>>50441523
>Every loyalist Primarch (Yes, even Ferrus) could come back and lead their sons in defense of the people.

>One of the clones of Ferrus manage to escape Fulgrim's Palace and regroup with the Imperium.
I am not a Iron Hands fan, but that would be awesome.

>>50440231
It's nothing more than a fool's hope.

>>50441980

>Being this addicted to retarded angst

>>50442128
looking at it from an outside perspective though, the only thing keeping empy alive is the collective efforts of humans who are actively defying his original will every day and have no idea what he really is anyway, while he's being drained of psychic energy on the throne every second. it doesn't look very hopeful.

>>50442197

We have no idea what happens if the Emperor dies, beyond that the Galactic Lighthouse is gone. He's the amalgamation of some of the most powerful psykers in all human history, PLUS the souls of billions of psykers he's been eating in the past 10,000 years, PLUS the supercharged and provably working (see Sisters of Battle) prayers that all of Humanity sends him daily.


I can garun-damn-tee, something that powerful isn't going to just "die." He'll become a full God, like the old Eldar Gods, and could probably float around Warp-Terra and function as the Lighthouse anyway, on top of being able to use his new Warpy powers.

>>50425163
>tfw you hate chaos but love thousand sons
what do I do?

>>50442363

Play Blood Ravens as Count As Thousand Sons, not using any allies to avoid having to explain why the BRs are so cozy with daemons. Sorcerer on a disk? Nah man, that's my Biker Librarian.

>>50442128
Nah, the Brits are just addicted to cruel twists of fate. They find it amusing and take pleasure in laughing at misery.

>>50442392
One of the BL authors was a total cuck about it because he thought a videogame chapter shouldn't be important and said that they are not officially Thousand Sons related because he said so.

>>50440297
>necron player
>not edgy
Choose one and only one

>>50442956

For someone who writes 40k lore, he seems remarkably uninformed about the whole "all lore is propaganda" thing.

>>50443222
I figure that he is one of those authors that thinks that he is fixing the canon.

Loyalist Primarch turning traitor?

>Girlyman wakes up from death stasis
>"I am Alpharius"