Building a Sisters army, Because I hate my bank balance. Goal,

File: ev9JWiu.jpg (868KB, 2934x1080px) Image search: [Google]

868KB, 2934x1080px

Till then, posting some sisters.

File: PUyRo2M.jpg (198KB, 1600x589px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 1600x589px

Mmm Off brand Saraphim.

Bloody kickstarter tripled it's funding but all I want is my bolter bitches.

File: hcLJnkF.jpg (184KB, 1600x589px) Image search: [Google]

184KB, 1600x589px

Worth every penny.

File: 8UW63xu.jpg (283KB, 2305x1034px) Image search: [Google]

283KB, 2305x1034px

Still haven't decided on a color scheme.

File: sister_theresa__wolf_n_sister__update_by_barelynormalactivity-dalrlkw.jpg (101KB, 1017x786px) Image search: [Google]

101KB, 1017x786px

I am thinking I'll go with this scheme make a little Sister Theresa from the wolf and sister comic.

well good luck with that

what about rhinos and shit?

File: 0_0_productGfx_bbbc6728a3d6c363bbf4d75a99f21fbe.jpg (85KB, 1024x1024px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 1024x1024px

>>50416715
these for starters.

>>50416738
not bad

needs more skulls,fleur de lis, fire and gothic arches

File: CB5VK9l.jpg (290KB, 2305x1034px) Image search: [Google]

290KB, 2305x1034px

>>50416745
I could add some bits an paint it up right.

Still waiting on plastic sisters before I get into Wh40k tabletop. I want them and ImpGuard vehicles.

File: IMG_1784.jpg (49KB, 450x386px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 450x386px

Don't need to go overboard... but a pintle mounted battle bible can't hurt.

File: sister_of_battle_by_renzo2013-d6clf6y.jpg (165KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

165KB, 1024x683px

>>50416765
rumor has it that they were teased in a trash bin joke.

File: Imperial_Cathedral.jpg (551KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]

551KB, 1920x1200px

>>50416775
>ecclesiarchy
>no need to go overboard

File: 7806bf4b0ec3c98f62db74bc80ab664e_large.jpg (106KB, 600x494px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 600x494px

>>50416824
I liked the look of the old sisters when they had a more subdued aesthetic. Not a pipe organ tank or a stained glass window immolater.

File: Saint_Celestine.jpg (93KB, 960x550px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 960x550px

Need a good living saint alt

>>50416824
Those buttresses are pretty tame actually. They're barely flying.

File: 300669-.png (964KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

964KB, 1000x1000px

Passable.

File: 62b17114488ba49020ce23b78935f6f2_original.jpg (114KB, 639x530px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 639x530px

Terminator nuns?

File: xxe5IF3.jpg (331KB, 1483x751px) Image search: [Google]

331KB, 1483x751px

MOAR

>>50416890
I'd be okay with the aesthetic as long as the stats were good. But fuck come on, what the fuck is with their rules?

>>50416993
>ow, right in the nun kink
>double ow, la muerte makeup
My dick is rapidly approving all the more.

>>50416637
Scions can't ride bikes, dummy

>>50417013
I was sold on these from the word go. I think the sudden push for plastic sisters is coming from the fact that Raging heroes raised $801,057 to make "not sisters we mean it" a fantasy version, and dark elf/eldar" all in the same batch.

That kinda money can't be ignored.

File: BikerInquisitorPtd (1).jpg (345KB, 1178x768px) Image search: [Google]

345KB, 1178x768px

>>50417042
This is the inquisition, we do what the fuck we want.

>>50417013
They're really nice. Can't think of how I'd ever use them outside of some weird modern fantasy rpg maybe.

File: SORORITA-FEMALE-BATTLE-SISTER-1.jpg (95KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 800x800px

>>50417143
Fuck it i'll cal them my death cult assassins and be done with it.

>>50417161
Here's hoping Zealots come back.

>>50416993
They look fucking gr8 m8.

Is dat sum Hitman: Absolution?

>>50417057
>the fact that Raging heroes raised $801,057 to make "not sisters we mean it"
>That kinda money can't be ignored.

Word.
Though I'm amazed it's taken this long for that to happen, given the variety of similar projects getting (less well) funded.

Perhaps this will be a turning point in community responsiveness.

File: 1449149307250.png (1MB, 1919x1079px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1919x1079px

>>50417289
>people want their sexy fetish power nuns
>only GW doesn't know
>tfw your gf won't dress up like a nun for your sexual gratification
>maybe your side bitch will
>tfw she said no, too

File: GvVkM2M.png (62KB, 282x186px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 282x186px

>>50417447

>>50417492
Genocide dat ass, maybe.

File: 1478946055965.jpg (74KB, 700x692px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 700x692px

>>50417536

>>50417615
>(you)
Yes, indeed, this is me.
>and let them have white hair, bouncy tits and dat ass
>And It Was Good

File: JTJtRaG.png (97KB, 840x680px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 840x680px

>>50417652

File: Bwv275R.jpg (144KB, 703x532px) Image search: [Google]

144KB, 703x532px

>>50417666

File: 1473714360634.gif (104KB, 300x136px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 300x136px

>>50417666
>that's
>no
>pudding

File: PkA1n4J.png (390KB, 900x1080px) Image search: [Google]

390KB, 900x1080px

>>50417680

File: pSDu5py.jpg (81KB, 1086x928px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 1086x928px

>>50417691

File: DVQqFUY.jpg (202KB, 500x501px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 500x501px

>>50417712

File: Erzebel-_1.jpg (200KB, 800x1247px) Image search: [Google]

200KB, 800x1247px

This would make a great Living Saint.

File: KAVvm1T.jpg (38KB, 714x714px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 714x714px

>>50417744
Now they just have to sell it.

File: 0mV72N8.jpg (154KB, 571x1023px) Image search: [Google]

154KB, 571x1023px

>>50417768

>>50417712
>>50417768
Fucking pudding.

>>50417768
Yeah, what's up with that? How do I even get this stuff? I'd like the not-Seraphim at the least.

File: 1478130894450.jpg (177KB, 1024x724px) Image search: [Google]

177KB, 1024x724px

>>50417809
Give them time...

File: 1411150054240.jpg (72KB, 620x877px) Image search: [Google]

72KB, 620x877px

>>50417828

File: f129b4737b7675251f880c725a9d3733_original.jpg (97KB, 639x320px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 639x320px

It's a picture for ants but they look pretty good from what I can see. Maybe make a nice Acolyte bodyguard for a Witch Hunter.

File: 3LyPCQr.jpg (182KB, 1024x1409px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 1024x1409px

>>50417847

>>50416637
>WarEx and Raging Heroes
>instead of that shitty, lazy Dreamforge Eisenkern bodies with ugly Statuesque heads combo

Amazing, I found the one SoB with passable taste.

File: 1478157454173.jpg (140KB, 676x1132px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 676x1132px

>>50417889

File: BQZ6JMi.jpg (97KB, 500x755px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 500x755px

>>50417916

What are the Raging Heroes miniatures like scale wise?

They seem a lot better proportioned than GW, but are they 28mm (to the eye) or 32mm scale?

From what I can tell they seem to be closer to 32mm but a lot of them also seem to have massive high heels which would possibly make them 28mm.

File: NUDtyEG.png (788KB, 1462x877px) Image search: [Google]

788KB, 1462x877px

>>50417950

>>50417744
i find all of these RH sculpts tremendously ugly

they're well sculpted, no doubt, but they've got that animu-esque face (and those birds are pure John Woo), the armor is like watching an old SD show on a super-HD screen because they don't dare go full GW and they don't dare update it and move away from the core aesthetic since that would kill their sales

this one in particular tho is she supposed to be coming out of that little church or what

what's happening there

>>50416655
these are to GW what Greg Land is to comic books

>>50416663
that central one would make a better Living Saint but the rest of them are we can only assume caught mid-spasm as their epilepsy kicks in mid-flight, plus they have ugly hats

>>50416680
more ugly hats, more pants-shitting

it's not enough to make poses dynamic, there's obviously going to be some horrible injuries done when these bodies connect with the floor

if they're supposed to be jet pack troops fine, but jump infantry all twisted around like that one on the right? she's going down on her face, ass toward enemy, while her friend on the other end is twisting in three different directions and probably doing herself a fairly nasty injury

>>50416688
who runs this way

why are their heels so extreme that they're forced to do this absurd gazelle-running shit

>>50416762

actually i like 3/5 of these and i like the *idea* of the musician, but that dead-eyed whore in the middle can fuck off and the poses/hats are still ass

it's better, but it's a long way off good

>>50416821

not saying GW nailed it either, but these are much more the kind of updated designs i'd like to see official

the armor is still busy but the poses are better, the sculpts weren't made by someone who learned anatomy from Taiwanese dirty books, and you can see the individual differences of each sculpt shine through and complement the squad as a whole

>>50416975
i mean for fucks sake who has thighs as thick as their waist

no

>>50417161
better

@50418143
Dude, stop your faggotry.
You are complaining about pin up design.
Do you go into KD threads and bitch?

>>50418249
i fucken lol'd mate

>>50418249
oh the hot glue boys are out i see

>>50418398
Nobody hotglues 28mm. That'd be some absurd megabukkake

When are all these going to be available? I assume the KS ended long time ago right?
I'm not interested in making an army out of these but some of the models are just gorgeous (>>50417744) and I might get some of them for display.

>>50418407
>absurd megabukkake
Bueno.
>>50418398
Get it right, fuccboi, I like my absurd megabukkake on actual women, not figures.

>>50416994

What exactly is wrong with them?

>>50418557
Sister vehicles are inferior, pound for pound, point for point, to other equivalent vehicles in other armies, even with the same job and loadout.
SM rhinos are cheaper, IG/Admech immolater equivalents are flatout better.

>>50418575
great drawing, except the face. Artist should put the veil of shame and never draw faces again, just put the helmet on.

File: 1473885795592.jpg (180KB, 767x1041px) Image search: [Google]

180KB, 767x1041px

>>50418587
can't yo just run them as allies to amies with better stuff?

It might have to do with the codex being waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of date.

>>50418587

Well, the SOB Rhinos are also better than the SM Rhinos (Adamantium Will and a 6++)

>>50418143

But anon GW already is Greg Land ... and Rob Liefeld combined.

File: ws000.jpg (110KB, 486x640px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 486x640px

I'm surprised nobody on /tg/ has made a sister Theresa Fig yet, hell back in the day some dudes made cultist chan.

>>50418629
I'm personally trying to decide whether Blood Angels or Dark Angels would make better bros for them. Rhino Sisters backed up by Deep striking Deathwing is very Angels of Death.

What am I supposed to use for Immolators and Exorcists? The GW ones are shit and FW stopped doing any SOB stuff.

I'm wondering whether the Sororitas have a Techmarine equivalent or if they wholly rely on techpriests for their needs.

>>50418636
Until SMs get them for free, and are still cheaper.
Anon, survivability on a 6 for a transport ain't cutting much. Ask your resident daemon/CSM player how nice that 6++ is.
>>50418629
Yes, it does, but even when it was updated, that was the case.

File: 400k___all_of_this_heresy__by_blazbaros-d7d00p8.png (2MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1600x900px

>>50418674
I first thought black templars would do, keeping the whole church theme. No Idea how the templars play in the new edition though.

PS: Anyone got a link to the digital rules for sisters currently?

>>50418680

>Until SMs get them for free, and are still cheaper.

When do marines get that for free?

>>50418691
I think Templars got stuffed into Vanilla and they haven't had any fancy supplements yet. I don't hold much hope there.

>>50418674
If Sisters had a "Fury of the Legion" style attack, that would be a fucking reason to blob them up.
Pop a faith point for a relentless, 20 strong blob of doubletapping, rapidfiring bolter bitches?
My dick is still approving.
>>50418702
Gladius formation, anon, get on the times.
>>50418721
Just because they are in the 'nilla dex doesn't mean they have lost out. It really means they get access to all the nice toys SM receive. There is the reason the stock SM dex is one of the best in the game, and the variant dexes are behind it.

File: 11236_md-Adepticon, Exorcist, Inquisition, Sisters Of Battle, Warhammer 40,000, Witch Hunters.jpg (54KB, 600x450px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 600x450px

>>50418679
See
>>50416890 Stand in Immolator
>>50416738 Stand in Rhino


Still looking for somethign to replace the pipe organ. I may do something like this instead.

>>50418753
I still don't understand why Dark Angels can't have Stormravens. I'll take that grievance to the grave.

What is the current ruling for Starting in allied transports anyway? Could I stuff a squad of repentia sisters into an allied Stormraven?

>>50418753
It's not the chassis I have an issue with, it's the weapons on top. Maybe a tarted up Whirlwind would work.

File: KASTELAN.jpg (190KB, 800x800px) Image search: [Google]

190KB, 800x800px

These might work in place of pennant engines.

>>50418753
Anon, those look ugly as fuck tho, especially the Cult deathrolla.

>>50418800
>What is the current ruling for Starting in allied transports anyway?
You can't, I believe, even if you are BBs.

File: 253228 - Fap-Tau Sister_of_Battle Tau Warhammer_40k chink.png.png (165KB, 1268x1600px) Image search: [Google]

165KB, 1268x1600px

Hmm maybe a little sister fig too.

>>50417279
More like Bayonetta.

>>50418744
Did they keep their special units and vows?

File: 1294160000147.jpg (204KB, 885x1040px) Image search: [Google]

204KB, 885x1040px

What happened to these figs?

>>50418998
That's some nostalgia I'm seeing

>>50418993
Proportions aren't nearly that exaggerated, anon. It is very much like the Saints from Hitman.
>>50419019
Special units, yes.
Vows were folded into chapter trait rules, EC got reworked, is less a monster beatstick and more utilitarian, can take on anything type.

File: Collage.jpg (95KB, 599x799px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 599x799px

>>50419020
Custom made sculpts.

File: 1266934871824.jpg (40KB, 661x512px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 661x512px

>>50419058
I was here before /tg/ when the 40k threads appeared on /k/ and /b/. Good times

File: sisteranna.jpg (146KB, 681x1429px) Image search: [Google]

146KB, 681x1429px

Somewhere i recalled seeing some fa/tg/uy got this as a tattoo way back when tg started.

Might have been shopped, wished i had saved it.

>>50416663
>Not Slaaneshi raptor

WTF are you on about?

>>50417744
If this ever gets released I'm making a Sabathiel conversion from it.

Make that outstretched arm a lightning claw, giver her a whip, cover the base in corpses. Slaanesh demands it.

File: arcos_xx_03.jpg (149KB, 948x541px) Image search: [Google]

149KB, 948x541px

>>50422924
I've been joking that if the Sisters ever get a flyer, it will have a rotary six-barrelled flamethrower.

File: IMG_1919.jpg (2MB, 4000x2664px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4000x2664px

>>50418143
Painted up, they look pretty decent, to be honest. The "animu faces" pretty much vanish when they're painted due to the scale involved. I'm sure my limited skill also helps.

Plus, it's not like they're picking your pocket to make them. You can just... pretend they don't exist?

File: 360flamer.jpg (15KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 480x360px

>>50423116
Way ahead of you.

File: 26683-Woman-flamethrower-gif-zlFb.gif (2MB, 432x288px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 432x288px

Sisters of The Holy Fishnet.

>>50423116
They could have a Valkyrie fitted with Prometheum spewing cannons. It'd be neat.

Honestly I personally hate the aesthetic GW has going for them. Particularly in the vehicles. The FW models look much better.

File: Carlos.png (138KB, 350x350px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 350x350px

>>50425211
That's hot.

>>50416802
they've already been confirmed you idiot

>>50426962
We're getting an Imperial Agents codex.
It is not known if we'll get a release of the whole line, or just the SoB squad.

>>50427110
good enough goyim

>>50426962
Are you new? It has been confirmed every year for more than a decade now.

Every time people over hype and every time is a lie. Till I can assemble a plastic squad myself I won't believe it.

>>50427482
They flat out said they're in the Imperial Agents book coming out

>>50427502

Link to source? I believe you, but i would like to read it myself.

>>50428066
If I remember correctly, they said so in white dwarf, I saw it in the 40k general, but this was a couple days ago

>>50416655
>Davidians
Getting five, yes five, squads of these from my pledge. They look so damn good, and now that they took our advice and are shipping them with hoods instead of the hoods being fantasy-only... hnnnng. Amazing.

>>50416663
Getting... two squads of these, I think? They are pretty cool. No command squad though; I prefer the poses on the regular squads better. I love how the one regular Icariate is the SoB version of Johnny Marine.

>>50416688
I can't decide if I want to do these helmet on or off. Five squads here too. I might make the commanders hooded, and the rest helmets. I didn't like them at first but they are growing on me.

TGotG2 was the best minis kickstarter since Bones 1. I have an army of Jailbirds too, that will be stand-ins for a Penal Legion.

>>50416738
>>50416890
I can't decide if I like these or not. The prices aren't bad, and I will need transports for my not!SoB and not!Penal Legion, but am unsure if I want to do one of these, or get some 20mm WW2 vehicles, or some 1:48 models and do some light conversion. Halftracks sound kinda neat, honestly.

>>50428333
>20mm
*28mm, derp

>>50418674
DA aren't exactly pals with the ecclesiarchy. Unless you mean like in a pure rules "fuck the fluff" way, then just tau or something

I'm super new to 40k and am set on making a skitarii army with sister allies. I'm in it for the fun and liking the models but still want it to be well rounded- what type of sisters stuff do you think I should take?

File: imperial-agents-legions-389x500.jpg (39KB, 389x500px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 389x500px

>>50428066
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/19/this-december-all-is-dust-and-loads-of-new-books/

File: SMA302as.jpg (69KB, 466x350px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 466x350px

>>50428265
I think they have alternative heads as well, Either way there is no shortage of people offering head swaps.

File: guthrie-heads.jpg (88KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 600x600px

more alternative heads.

>>50418557
Wrote this on the 40k facebook page in response to a guy who asked "Why" sisters should be updated.

David Scott You just answered your own question. Last I checked it costs $105 to buy 1HQ and 2 units of 10Battle Sisters. It gets allot worse from there. For $1000 you get the same sized army others pay $300-400 for. Not to mention the rules are some of the worst in the game.

Since you ask "Why?" I guess you have no idea how the Sisters work. Their unique feature is called Acts of Faith, fluff wise they are small miracles that can happen on the battlefield because their belief in the Emperor is so great. You could say the Emperor is the Chaos God of Hope and he answers their prayers. In the 3e Witch Hunter codex the Acts of Faith were the best, you could get +2S, +2I, Rending, Fearless or Inv save equal to your armour save, any unit could get any of them and multiple times depending on your number of Faith Points (basically 1 per Sororitas unit +1 for each destroyed Sororitas unit). Compared to what armies get these days these are rather pathetic but it helped in allot of situations.

Then the WD happened and the AoF (Acts of Faith) became complete garbage, then the Digital Happened and some problems were fixed but they remain complete garbage for almost all units in the army. They changed it to be a once per game ability that lasts for one phase and they made each unit have different ones.

>>50429177
Canoness: Hatred for one phase per game.. Exactly what you want with your WS3, S3, I3 army.

Sororitas Command Squad: Move Through Cover... The most elite of the elite get Move Through Cover? Imagine if the only special ability a SM Command Squad got was Move Through Cover one movement phase once per game. No Chapter Tactics, no ATSKNF... just MTC one phase per game.

Battle Sisters: Preferred Enemy for one phase

Celestians: Furious Charge for one phase, because close combat is exactly where you want to be with this army...

Dominions: Ignores Cover for one phase... Sisters only have access to 3 types of weapons, the so called Holy Trinity that is the Bolter, Melta and Flamer. So here we have an AoF that doesn't do anything for Flamers, and pretty much useless for Storm Bolters (because you'd never take them) and really good for Meltas. Storm Bolters become Assault 10 and Flamers get Torrent would have been interesting but melta is the only thing Sisters do good.

Seraphim (Jump Infantry): Shred for one phase.. Yay, Shred with bolter pistols... Inferno Pistols and Hand Flamers is decent though. Seraphim used to be the only unit in the game that could shoot with both hand held weapons, now everyone can.

Sisters Repentia: Feel No Pain 3+ (Assault phase only), so your unit gets FnP 3+ one phase once per game. Since they only have a close combat chainfist and nothing else they might get to swing, if they make it to close combat at all...

Retributors: Rending.. This is the best AoF in the army and should be good. Heavy Bolters, Heavy Flamers and Multi-Meltas with Rending could be scary I guess. Too bad you never take them because a Exorcist (Kinda like a SM Whirlwind) is a smarter choice.

>>50429189
Now lets take a closer look at what makes this army unique, the Acts of Faith. They are listed above but what do they actually do for the army compared to other armies?
Pretty much nothing. Everything the Sisters get other armies get for free or better versions of. SM is a prime example of this.

Sisters get Acts of Faith, SM get Chapter Tactics.
Ultramarines get to use each Doctrine one each per game and when enacted every single Ultramarine is affected.

Tactical Doctrine: Re-roll 1s to hit in Shooting and Assault. Tactical Squads re-roll all failed to hit in shooting and assault.
Assault Doctrine: re-roll To Hit rolls of 1 in assault this turn, assault units instead re-roll all failed To Hit.

Devastator Doctrine: Re-roll To Hit on 1s in shooting phase. Devastator units re-roll all failed To Hit.

Notice how similar these are to the Battle Sisters Preferred enemy, difference is Sisters need to do a Faith Test (Ld test) to see if their work and if it does it's for one phase. SMs just works and last for the rest of the turn.

All sisters have a 6++ inv save, Iron Hands chapter gets FnP 6+ which gets better with if they received another source of FnP. This is pretty much the same as the Sisters 6++.

Then we have Imperial Fist Bolter Drill, Salamander Flamecraft, Black Templars Holy Crusaders. All of which contain rules the Sisters have but work better.

>>50429202
Then comes the points costs of units...
HQ Canoness: 65pts WS/BS5, I4, A3 rest 3 vs SM Captain 90pts WS6, BS5 I5, A3, rest 4. Iron Halo, ANSKNF, Chapter Tactics

Elite Celestian: 14pts WS/BS4 2A Ld9 Stubborn vs Tactical Marine 14pts 4on Everything plus special rules

Elite Repentia: 14pts S6 Ap2 Eviscerator, WS4, A2, Rage, Fleet, Fearless vs Assault Squad 14pts 4on all stats, 2A (2CCW), ranged weapon, 3+ armour save, can take 1 Eviscerator per 5 models. ATSKNF, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads.

Troop Battle Sister: 12pts BS4, 3on rest vs SM Scout 11pts 4on everything. ATSKNF, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, MTC, Scout. So you're telling me that a 3+ Armour save is equal to:-1pts cost per model +1WS, +1BS, +1S, +1T, +1I, all those special rules but a 4+ Armour Save

FA Seraphim: 15pts WS/BS4 rest 3 vs Assault Squad 14pts 4on everything +3pts for jump pack so 17pts for comparison

FA Dominion: 13pts BS4, 3on rest, Scout vs SM Scout 11pts 4on everything. ATSKNF, Chapter Tactics, Combat Squads, Infiltrate, MTC, Scout. So you're telling me that a 3+ Armour save is equal to:-2pts cost per model +1WS, +1BS, +1S, +1T, +1I, all those special rules but a 4+ Armour Save

Heavy Support Retributor: 12pts BS4 rest 3 vs Devastator 14pts 4on everything and special rules.

Eviscerator for Sisters: 30pts, gives S6 Ap2 Armourbane
Eviscerator for SM: 25pts, gives S8 Ap2 Armourbane
Sisters Repentia get Eviscerator for free because the model only costs 14pts but are useless because Sisters have no assault vehicles and Repentia have no save.

>>50429216
Then we have the biggest slap in the face of Sisters players, the Minustorum Priest...
This little shithead costs 25pts, Guardsman stats and gear but also a Rosarius (4++), War Hymns and Zealot.
What's so special about this little piece of shit you ask?
War Hymns is the answer, far better than the Acts of Faith and he gets 3 different ones.
War Hymns, perform Ld test and chose one in each Fight Sub-phase when locked in combat.
The Emperor Protects: UNIT re-roll all failed armour and inv saves until end of phase.
The Emperor's Strength: Priest gains Smash until end of phase
The Righteousness of the Emperor: UNIT re-rolls failled To Wound until end of phase.

Not only are the War Hymns better than the Acts of Faith, you can use them as many times as you want. There is a reason some armies contain 2 of these with their death stars (they use the IG codex to get them and not the Sisters Codex). For 50pts you can give your deathstar Re-roll Failed To Wound, Re-roll Failed Armour and Invulnerable Saves.

>>50429226
Do I need to go on or are you smart enough to see a pattern yet? Sisters cost the same or 1-2pts lower than SM units but the stat difference is horrendous and the special rules for SM ARE ALLOT BETTER. Anything sisters get from their Acts of Faith the SM get better versions of and army wide in allot of cases. There is only one thing Sisters do better than SM and that is spam melta guns, but melta guns became irrelevant with 6E of the game.

So why would you pay $1-2000 for an army that you can get for 1/3 the cost with SM, that is worse on pretty much every aspect, has less options and nothing that makes them special except for the look of the models?

I have written a 20 page compendium of all problems with the Sisters that I sent to the dev team when the WD came out, I saw some of the changes I recommended with the Digital release but they did not fix the general problem with the codex... the Acts of Faith. If a Sister is to cost the same as a SM but get -1 WS/BS/S/T/I and not have special rules equivalent in power to ATSKNF, Chapter Tactics and whatever else then the Acts of Faith need to be darn powerful if they are to work for one phase once per game.

>>50429237
Here is my recommendation for Acts of Faith:
Once per game ability per unit, Faith Points per unit is equal to Turn Number. So turn 1 you have 1 FP, Turn 5 you have 5.
So the tactical question is do you use your once a game ability early when units are at full strength or later in the game when you have more FP to spend?
Acts of Faith should go back to 3E Witch Hunters with more options.
+2S per FP spent
+2I per FP spent (I1 weapons strike at +1I per FP spent, so spend 3FP and you strike at I4 with Chainfists (Eviscerators)
+1 To Hit per FP
-2 To Enemy Cover save per FP
+2 Inv save per FP
+2AP on weapons per FP (if at Ap1 get +1 on dmg table, Ap 5 weapons become Ap3 for 1FP).
+2-3" Range per FP (Flamers get 2" Torrent per FP, so spend 4FP and your flamers can be placed 8-12" from the model
1 of the following per FP : MTC, Fleet, Rage, Furious Charge, Rending, Shred, Preferred Enemy, Fearless
Fire Weapons again for 3 FP

There are hundreds of ways to make the sisters better without lowering their points costs but if you make them cost the same as SM but MUCH worse across the line then their Acts of Faith need to be damn good to compensate.

As it is you could lower the points cost of every single Sisters model by -4 pts and it still wouldn't make much of a difference, you could even change their statline to be 4 across the board without much impact. You'd just get more bad units that under perform on every front compared to SM. Sisters ARE NOT SM! Why are they costed the same(ish) when they simply aren't the same.

File: Hmph.jpg (78KB, 600x774px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 600x774px

>>50429250

So there you have a very short and condensed version of what's wrong with the current Sisters of Battle codex and all I went over were the sisters infantry.

TLDR: Model cost too much, both in $$$ and points cost. Rules are shit and statlines are far worse than models of equal(ish) or lower points cost. A SM scout is cheaper than all sisters units yet has +1 to all stats and loads of special rules and upgrades that are far better than what the sisters have.

Sisters are pure garbage right now, there is nothing they can do that you can't do better with other armies, SM codex being the prime example of this.

>>50429086
>>50429156
Not bad, but I like the RH heads well enough. It was the helms on the Troops that I wasn't sure about, but I think I like them more now than I did. I suck at painting faces so more likely than not I'll opt to cover them up as often as possible.

Since we're on the topic, does anyone have any interesting suggestions for alternate models for SoB/AM besides what's been mentioned upthread? I'm always on the lookout and while modding 1:35/1:48 models might work in a pinch, real-life vehicles tend to distract from the immersion a little, so trying to avoid that.

File: lav_04.jpg (125KB, 1024x727px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 1024x727px

>>50429331
1/35 tanks are generally too big unless you use WW2 early war tanks. Like the Panzer 1 or 2.
1/48 tanks fit in allot of cases, the 1/48 Tiger 1 is pretty much the same size as a Leman Russ but not as tall.

I use the Tamiya LAV as my counts as Immolators. It's pretty much identical in size to a Rhino.

In the audiobook about the sisters returning to Sanctuary 101 the sisters had access to a few things they currently don't. I found this very interesting as the book came out before the Necron codex and had exact names and descriptions of the new Necron kits, book even goes as far as to describe colours using GWs colour naming scheme.

2 things that popped up were Sororitas Gun Servitors and a Tauros light transport vehicle.
The Tauros were described pretty much like the FW Tauros Venator but this one was a small transport version that could hold 5 sisters.

Would be really cool if the sisters got a small Tauros Venator to replace the Immolator for Dominions. Immolator should get Torrent and it should get side sponsons with torrent Heavy Flamers, Multi Meltas and Heavy Bolters.
In the fluff the Hellhound was made using incomplete STC designs pretty much stolen from the Sisters. Sisters got the Immolator and the mechanicum modified the STC to give the IG the Hellhound.

>>50416775
>but a pintle mounted battle bible can't hurt.
Of course, how else do you mount your battle bible?

>>50429482
Hm, this sounds neat. I was actually looking at getting the Supacat Jackal/Coyote 1:48 kits for Taurox stand-ins for the Penal Legion, but am still at a loss for what to do with the Sisters. I'll see what the cost on those LAV kits is; if they are as cheap as the German Halftracks I'm looking at ($15 a pop, holy shit) I may go that way because they look cool.

>>50429482
According to a few rumours way back then the Sanc 101 audiobook came out, there was a SoB book in the works to be released shortly after Necrons.
Later rumours around GW in general when Roundtree took over was that Kirby intentionally sunk many codex plans, including the Sisters because he was focused so much on making short-term cash grabs, fuck the consuquence.

No idea about the validity of these but all those 'Sisters totes next guis' rumours surely had to of come from somewhere. Maybe there was several attempts to do them that fell through due to internal politics.

>>50426962
>>50427110
>>50427502
>>50429070
The Sisters will be in the book, that is confirmed.
There is no Plastic Sisters coming in December though, doubtful for January as well as the Dec WD doesn't mention them at all, including the next month section at the back.

Also GW does not release plastic kits independent of books, boardgames or other tie-in releases, nor do they do Second Wave releases anymore.
So any Sisters that are going to be released won't happen for some time.

Personally I think all the Plastic SoB rumours this time are a combination of people seeing the SoS minis and others hearing about 'Codex: Bubble and Squeak' and and coming to a logical, but completely wrong, conclusion.

>>50418587
Immolators are straight up better then razorbacks.
(far more important then a 6++ is the "a single model can shoot out of it" rule they re-introduced with the FAQ.

Deal with it, marines.

Ofc if you compare them with free stuff, free stuff is better. However not every marine player uses gladius.

>>50430975
actually this time its different, as the rumor did come from GW directly, in the end of their We-Found-Magnus-in-The-Bin-Video which is a whole different level from: I have a friend who knows somebody whose housemates mother is a cleaner at GW in nottingham. This person told me, he saw things.

here is a link to the video, incase you did not see it. The Sisters of Battle part is in the end
http://natfka.blogspot.de/2016/10/games-workshop-reveals-magnus-and.html

>>50431524
He made a single comment.
No time frames given or surrounding releases and many were quick to write it off as a joke even when the video first came out.

Who knows. Maybe GW decided to break from their usual pattern. Maybe the stupid rumour of Sisters vs Eldar being the new 8th box is worth something or that Sisters vs Plague Marines campaign is coming sooner then expected.
I didn't say Sisters weren't coming, just no for a long time and I think the recent round of rumours is incorrect.

>>50428555
All the flamers. That aside skitarii aren't really lacking in any area that sisters can fill.

>>50427502
But that does not mean new plastic models.

Like I said the rumores about plastic SoB comes pretty much since the witch hunter codex, when every army was getting plastic

>>50432747
But the bin video from GW where the guy flat out said PLASTIC SISTERS OF BATTLE does mean they are coming.

I can't find the source but I read on the GW 40k facebook page that some warehouse had told a store they had all the sisters kits in storage and that they were just waiting for GW to give them the go ahead to start sending them out.

File: image.jpg (313KB, 750x563px) Image search: [Google]

313KB, 750x563px

>>50432851
Honey, stop. I'm an abuse housewife SoB player too.
Unless you have said plastic kits on your own hands. You must stop believing this rumors.


I'm hoping the Imperial Agents codex gives me a reason to get Brothers models. Deamon host could work but I'm already playing SoB that is enough handicap

File: Could we plz get good dex.jpg (142KB, 462x590px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 462x590px

>>50432882
But muh sisters :(

File: image.jpg (127KB, 500x750px) Image search: [Google]

127KB, 500x750px

>>50432906
No tears honey. Denied him that pleasure of your tears. Have some dignity in your suffering.

File: Death of Bretonia.jpg (209KB, 926x682px) Image search: [Google]

209KB, 926x682px

>>50432959
But I was told this once already and now there're gone forever :(

>>50432959
>Denied (...)
If you're asking her to do something, you need to use the imperative "deny": you're not describing anything that happened in the past, so the past tense is obviously not appropriate.

Also, you generally do not use the demonstrative "that" unless you are indicating the location of something in physical space, or selecting a particular object out of a set of several possible objects (e.g. I want the cake. > "what cake?" > "I want THAT cake.")
What you're looking for is the definite article "the".

TL;DR
"deny him the pleasure of your tears."
See me after class Miguel, Heil Hynkel.

>>50433277
Not my fault English suck as language. Easy to learn, imposible to master

>>50433314
This is basic grammar present in practically every major language in some form for another.

File: IMG_0556.jpg (1MB, 3724x2096px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3724x2096px

>>50433414
Sorry. Have some third world Donuts

File: 1480300193051.jpg (79KB, 445x721px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 445x721px

>>50418143

>>50429177
>Chaos God of Hope
Tzeentch

>>50433649
So what Chaos God would you describe the God Emperor as?

I guess a better title would be: Chaos God of Humanity as the Emperor is a pretty xenophobic asshole who wants to see the entire universe cleansed of xeno filth so humanity can prosper.

Chaos God of Order doesn't work, it needs to be a concept that applies to all living things in the universe.

All the gods in 40K reside in the warp, if they don't reside there then they aren't truly gods but either vessels for them or very powerful beings.

If the Emperor died and was resurrected as a chaos god then what would his title be?

Chaos God of Imperial/Human Order/Hope?

I know the fluff states that people who pray for hope in a sense answer to Tzeentch but that's like saying that you pray for god to help you on a math test and he kills you so you don't have to worry about it anymore.

The Emperor answers the Sisters of Battle because their belief and hope in him is so strong. If they ever doubted their prayers would be answered by another chaos god (which has happened in the fluff).

>>50433931
>Chaos God of Order doesn't work, it needs to be a concept that applies to all living things in the universe.
But it does. It's the feeling you have when "things are right", it's the comforting idea that everything is in order and nothing is out of its place. It's the crushing power of the routine, erasing both sorrow and dreams given the time. Everything that deviate from the usual course will be mitigate, and given time, forgotten.
It's the ever stagnating Imperium, the eternal status quo, because even the soldiers fighting and dying are fighting and dying in the expected parameters. Actually, even the dark power of chaos are in their places no matter how much they struggle, and the next dark crusade is exactly what is expected of them. It while rampage as expected, fail as envisioned, then we will rebuild just as we planned.
In the grand scheme of things, chaos rebellion against the Supreme Order of the universe is still just them playing their part.

It's also the feeling you have when GW don't retcon the fluff.
So I kind of get your point.

>>50433931
Emperor is Protection and Domination probably.

Protects his followers and makes others bow to his will. Like sword and shield guy.

>>50433931
As shown by the Khaine and Khorne dichotomy, the object of your worship is as important as the concept itself.

>>50429482
>I use the Tamiya LAV as my counts as Immolators. It's pretty much identical in size to a Rhino.
Do you do anything special conversion work with them or do you build them as is? I'd be interested to see how that looks like next to proper minis!

>>50434226
>>50434229
So if a Tau warrior prayed for protection or Order the Emperor would answer if he was the Chaos God of Order?

>>50434341
But isn't Khaine and Khorne the same being, though different forms of it?

As mentioned above, if a Tau, Tyranid, Hobgoblin or whatever other xeno/mutants are out there would pray to the Chaos God of Order would the Emperor (if he became it) answer?

Hmm, I'm making the Emperor sound like Allah here... no infidels allowed!

>>50434382
Plan is just to replace the top turret with the Immolator Turret or a conversion of one. I bought 1 kit to see if it was the right size and it was so I bought 4 more kits. Project is in the pipeline but been too busy with other projects to complete it (got myself 5 chinacast Repressors I've been working on).

>>50434416
In the same way Khorne is nourished by the Imperium soldiers, the God-Emperor would be nourished by the tau empire.

>>50434563
But Khorne gives blessings to Imperial Soldiers if they worship him, would the Emperor give blessings to Tau or other xenos?

File: SL701800.jpg (517KB, 1383x467px) Image search: [Google]

517KB, 1383x467px

>>50434382
Took some quick pics of what I have so far so you can see the size. Seems I had forgotten the measurements. Anyway it's pretty much identical in length, 3mm taller and about 5mm narrower. It's good enough for me though and once you put on some heraldry and other bits it should be the same width.

File: SL701802.jpg (484KB, 1469x396px) Image search: [Google]

484KB, 1469x396px

>>50434680
The Panther is a 1/35 $10 rc toy I bought to see if it was size comparable to 40K. Like all "modern" tanks it too long. 1/48 is right length but then it's not wide enough. 40K tanks a almost square in shape, the first tanks of WW2 were similar but as it's a shitty design it was soon replaced.

File: SL701805.jpg (404KB, 858x519px) Image search: [Google]

404KB, 858x519px

>>50434708

File: SL701809.jpg (549KB, 1310x510px) Image search: [Google]

549KB, 1310x510px

>>50434717

File: SL701812.jpg (353KB, 1049x345px) Image search: [Google]

353KB, 1049x345px

>>50434733

File: SL701814.jpg (398KB, 1059x389px) Image search: [Google]

398KB, 1059x389px

>>50434746

>>50434680
>>50434708
>>50434717
>>50434733
>>50434746
>>50434761
Thanks a lot, that's very interesting!

File: SL701816.jpg (281KB, 699x468px) Image search: [Google]

281KB, 699x468px

>>50434761
That's all the pics I saved. Hope it gives some sort of sense of scale.

>>50434775
>meanwhile, GW made the Taurox
Everyday I'm a little more impressed that they managed to get that thing past quality control.

>>50434812
Aw, the Taurox isn't that bad once your make it a half track with a third party conversion kit.

>>50434896
Actually the Taurox model is not that bad. The main issue are the front tracks. Maybe the weapon placement.

>>50434775
>>50434761
>>50434746
>>50434733
>>50434717
>>50434708
>>50434680
Thanks a ton for this man; it really helps. I like that LAV a lot, and went to go find it on Amazon. It's $96 USD a pop? Am I just not looking in the right places? It sure doesn't look like it should cost that much.

I can really see some extra plasticard plating with slits for shooting out of. I had wanted to go tracked because I prefer them as an aesthetic but I really do like that little thing as a kitbash base. Where do you get yours?

>>50439058
I bought mine for $20 each from ebay, you can also get them for cheap from chinese ebay.

>>50442476
Huh, I'll have to go look again then. $20 is pretty good compared to what I was intending to spend already. Thanks again anon.

>>50442476
Had a look at ebay and there are sellers who sell it for $14 from Japan, postage is pretty bad though at $30 for me from that seller.

Just search for this on ebay and you should find some good deals:
1/35 JGSDF Light Armored Vehicle

Tamiya also just released the 1/48 version this month. I'm ordering a kit because I'm curious to how it scales compared to a Tauros.

>>50442542
itembay4u sells them for $22.50 + 13.50 postage
rcmada-com for $18 + 16 postage

I live in Finland so postage to you might be completely different. Normally I see some of the highest postage costs compared to the US or others.

You should always contact the seller and ask if the combine shipping and if so at what rates. You could save a ton on shipping that way.

The model you saw has to have been the Tamiya Master Work Collection version, those come pre-painted and cost between $80-120

Also just noticed the 1/48 seems to be pre-order atm.

>>50442542
Also make sure you buy the actual model and not the crew kit that Tamiya also makes. Would be a bitch to received nothing but troops :D

>>50442549
>>50442631
>>50442653
Alright, I'm on the hunt. Thanks all. Best response I've gotten to searching for alternate model kits as replacements for 40k stuff from around here. I did see a post on... some 40k forum comparing sizes and stuff, and have seen some of the 28mm sci fi vehicle kits, but it's always nice to have more options.

>>50418691

mfw I'm that Ordo Hereticus

>>50434589

Perhaps Chaos Gods don't offer their blessing conciously? They are ideas, after all, not people. I'm sure the Emperor, in his current state, would never help the xenos if it didn't save human lives, but he's not a Chaos God yet. If and when he becomes one, he might not have a CHOICE in who he blesses.

>>50445968
If this was true there'd be no chosen of chaos?

>>50416637
Just use Dreamforge plastics with lady heads and bolters.

Instant plastic sisters

>>50446905
But they look like shit...

>>50446905

Those look like shit and you have shit taste. You literally make them look worse than stock.

File: a05301-photo-1.jpg (62KB, 750x500px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 750x500px

>>50430270
>Supacat Jackal/Coyote 1:48 kits
God this looks gorgeous!

File: 1474508995236.png (2MB, 1500x1500px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1500x1500px

>>50417615

>>50429250
I'd make acts of faith reusable. You just have to pass a Ld test and spend the required amount of faith points, and you benefit from the bonus.
Also make it so faith points can be used as warp charges to deny the witch (as a result, the SoB should be able to generate a lot of faith points).
You gain faith points from faithful units and martyrs.
Possibly add some faith points when someone does something badass like win a challenge, take an objective or destroy a lord of war.

The idea of giving faith points depending on turn is good too.

War Hymns could be a specific act of faith. You roll on a war hymn hymns table before battle, same as psychic powers generation, and the unit joined by the priest gains access to an additional choice, like Smash for 1FP.
It meshes the two systems together and bring a bit of the old Sacred Rites back.


>the various iterations of acts of faith, for those curious:
http://imgur.com/a/Dw2tL

>>50418249
>Do you go into KD threads and bitch?

Of course he does. He just can't stand badwrongfun.

>>50430270
>German Halftracks I'm looking at ($15 a pop, holy shit)
Any reference on these? That sounds interesting.

>>50448604
I would make acts of faith limited by turn. Each turn you can do a limited number of acts of faith, you can't have your whole army under one so you have to choose which units to reinforce each turn.

Though I would also add "once a game" powers, called miracles, in addition to regular acts of faith.

A SoB is expected to perform acts of faith, miracles are a whole other level.

>>50449332
Check Amazon for the 1:35 SdKfz 251/1. There was an arctic-pattern one for $15, and there's a standard one for $16.

>>50449332
>>50453720
Oh, there's 1:48 scale ones for that price as well, same model.