Pathfinder General /pfg/

>Winter
>In the underdark
What are you talking about friend? That sounds almost heretical. Do we need to bring you to one of the spider priestesses?

>>50403273

I despise you.

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Is it O.K. to take parts off APs and modules for my own campaign if i'm having an inspiration draught?
Will i look like an half-assed GM?

>>50403383
It's fine. Half of the time when I'm working on my setting, I can pinpoint some other piece of fiction that inspired a given part of the setting.

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>>50403273https://www.dropbox.com/s/onnk3oskhbc5aos/Vampire%20Hunter%20D%20Pathfinder%20Supplement.pdf?dl=0

>>50400349
Did you order the B&W version? I've got a color softcover copy.

I'm a publisher and I expect the change is because hardcover books are fucking EXPENSIVE

>>50403273
Thicker winter tails means a lot of shedding in summer. No thanks, that's bad enough without a tail.

>>50403273
>>50403350
I don't even MIND kitsuneposting most of the time, but shit, OP, you could at least keep it in your pants. Honestly, I wish the topic was more general and all the foxposting was reactive rather than this.

So lads, what do we know about the Nirmathas AP besides Crystal's working on it and the current concept sounds pretty cool, albeit wasted potential?

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>>50403647
>vampire hunter class

>d8 HD
>full BAB
>6 base skill points

Is Paizo breaking their own rules for HD/BAB/base skill points now?

How does it feel to know this is a tier 3 martial, /pfg/?

>>50404061
Good? Could always use more martials, but the class concept is too fucking narrow.

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>>50403647
Is that even an official product?
I don't think i ever saw a Vampire Hunter playtest post or so.

>>50403350
>>50404048
We could all just start reporting OP for this bullshit. Might lose a couple thread starters but after that things could back to some sort of decent topics.

What are the best ways to build a Tower Shield Specialist? I already have the Mobile Bulwark Style, but I don't think it's as effective to tank if i'm not being targeted. The DM houseruled magic armor and equipment, so I have a Tower Shield of Bashing. The only problem is getting people to attack me and not my team mates.

When rolling for a random background in the Ultimate Campaign book, if you are adopted do you roll for your real parents' professions or you roll for your adopted parents?

>>50404265
>if you are adopted do you roll for your real parents' professions or you roll for your adopted parents?

Your adopted parents, though you could certainly roll for your real parents if you want!

>>50404223
Antagonize feat and ranks in Intimidate.

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>>50404223
Since this isn't 4e [/spoiler]and you're not playing a fucking videogame
You just have to role it up
Taunt enemies by insulting them, go full anime with the script.
Even Goblins would instantly ignore the guy with a shield taller than him
I also think there are some real slim actual mechanical taunts in the system, you just have to look for them


I have this in my RPG archive, idk where it's from, idk if it's any good and I also think it's for 3.5. Anyway, might give you some ideas for unique abilities you can work out with your DM

>>50404323
And I don't even remember how to spoiler, brb gotta kms

First time playing a caster here. What are the best feats to take for sorcerer? I just wanna blast dudes. Level 7 by the way.

>>50404382
You just wanna blast dudes but you either just ignore most of the spells you can take or end up having the power to carry the whole party

>>50404382
Traits:Metamagic Master(Fireball)
Crossblooded Orc/Draconic

Take Spell Focus(Evocation) at First level, so you can use the Blood Havoc Mutation.
Feats
Spell Focus Evocation
Empower Spell
Elemental Spell
Improved Initiative
Spell Penetration

>>50404061
>>50404112
Third party. Level 1 kickstarter reward for the new comic.

I just picked up that bigass Freeport book. Hope my PC's are cool staying in one town for like 10 levels.

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How to fix Pathfinder 101:

> remove all full BAB classes and creature types
> highest BAB type is now 3/4ths level
> delete CMB and CMD
> any SoD spells cause severe backlash damage or force the caster to SoD himself
> characters get 1/2 level AC bonus, all AC-related magic items are removed
> full plate is removed
> highest armor bonus is like +5 or +6, not fucking +8
> deadly agility is a core feat
> combat expertise is back to what it was in 3.5
> power attack returned to its 3.5 levels
> delete / merge the feats that don't do anything
> point blank and far shot are completely separate and are chains related to close / far range archery
> point blank leads to precise, etc., whereas far shot leads to sniper shit
> remove spring attack and mobility, dodge instead leads to feats that let you burn hp (energy) to increase dodge bonus to AC
> weapon style feats so that there;s a reason to use shit like Scimitar and Flail.

If you disagree with these changes, you are what is wrong with Pathfinder community these days.

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>>50404537

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>>50404537

>>50404537
>full plate is removed
What?

>>50404434
Ask your Gm if you can use 3.5e elemental spell, because it had a +0 spell modifier. Rhis is i portant, because PF elemental spell is retarded.

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>>50404537

>>50404537
I feel your approach is a bit like suturing a handsome actor'a face to a stitched horror, what the game needs is a complete overhaul.

>remove full plate
Give it the max +6 AC you talked earlier about and adjust everything else accordingly. Or are you just trolling?

>>50404061
Skill points aren't lined up with BAB/HD. HD and BAB are lined up, in that 1/2 BAB is d6 HD, 3/4 BAB is d8, and full BAB is d10, except for Barbarian where it's d12. Path of War follows the same rules, except for Warder who gets d12.

>>50404537
Full plate is a +9.

>>50404537
>How to fix Pathfinder 101:
>step one: play another game

FTFY. Pathfinder is not fixable.

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>>50404537

>>50404832
cry even harder 5e faggot

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>>50404791
What full BAB classes have 6 base skill points?

>>50404832
Yes it is. It is fixed by playing 5e, realizing 5e is three good ideas mixed with a port-a-potty full of shit, then shoving the 5e book up Meral's ass then deleting all the PDFs from your computer, and relazing Pathfinder COULD be fixed if the devs would take their heads out of their asses. Basically if SKR and the other devs all get cancer (which they deserve to have) and die, and a new team of fa/tg/uys picks up PF development, we can create PF 2.0 which would catch a lot of notice and might draw in 5fags who will realize that it is infinitely better than the AD&D / 4e cuckfest that 5th edition was / is.

TLDR: Fuck your defeatist logic.

>>50404971
Slayer and Ranger, offhand. Avenger specialization Vigilante as well.

>>50404971
Slayer

>>50404971
ranger, you sutpid fuck

>>50404966
Hey, I LIKE Pathfinder, it's still a broken fucking game with a ton of holes.

>>50404982
Legend went so poorly no-one felt up for it after that.

>>50404982
That's called FantasyCraft, and no-one plays it anymore.

>>50404996
>>50405017
Yeah because fantasyCRAP was a stupid game that had nothing going for it, it also threw in a bunch of dumb mechanics that nobody wanted.

I am talking a complete overhaul in the game that still lets you build your character. Maybe even making attack bonuses the same as save bonuses, almost like proficiency. But not the shitty numbers 5e has where you only get +4 more by 20th level than 1st. Fuck that shit.

>>50405072
You're talking about something that either sucks, is completely unrecognisable as Pathfinder, or more likely both.

>>50404971
Full BAB: Fighter, 2. Barbarian, 4. Ranger, 6.
3/4 BAB: Cleric, 2. Druid, 4. Bard, 6.

Your question should have been "What 1/2 BAB classes have more than 2 base skill points?"

>>50402368
(repost)

How did you get that array with 25 points?

I have something similar (Swap Strength and Dex), but I had to dump my Int and Wisdom (two things I'd rather not do).

>>50405172
Cheating, starting at a level past 4, or not mentioning that they dumped Wis to 7 and Int to 9.

>>50405172
Even with Aasimar's floating score increase, they're at 27, yeah.

>>50403273
Svana prepares for winter by growing out her fur and killing animals to make a big fluffy fur coat.

>>50405225
>27
They're at 30. Pre-racials would be 14/16/14/10/10/16, which is +5/+10/+5/+0/+0/+10.

>>50405247
floating bonus, the one you can pick instead of the SLA, into one of those 14s. one of them is a 12 with a +2.

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>>50403273
The campaign takes place in the not!Mediterranean, so they avoid traveling due to wetter roads.

>>50405172
>>50405225
>>50405247
They probably assumed they could trade their SLA for another +2 to an ability score, from the d% table. That would give 3 14's and a 16 pre-racial

>>50405213
>>50405225
>>50405247
Ah, Okay. Drat, was kinda hoping there was some shenanigans, or we were actually using 30 point buy.

Question - which should I dump lower, INT or WIS? I get CHA to will saves, so Wis isn't super important.

>>50405309
it's still 27

>>50405290

>only takes one when the chart clearly lets you take two

Do you even minmax?

>>50405309
Wait, can we?

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>>50405315
WIS, because it's fun!

>>50405315
do you want 1 more skill, or do you want better perception/sense motive

>>50405322
Hwat, no it's not. 3 14's would be 15pb, the 16 is 10pb, they're an Aasimar so no -2.

>>50405330
top kek

>>50405346
http://webpages.charter.net/tedsarah/Pathfinder/utilities/pointBuyCalc.htm
try again

>>50405332
Fuck if I know, I assume not and never asked, because Aasimar are retarded as-is. I would only want it on a tiefling so I could mitigate the penalty, IMO, but fuck doing that shit on aasimar.

Got to admit, I'm not liking Kanela very much at all.

>>50405358
See >>50405247 cockgobbling retard. I know what the PB costs are, Aasimar are +2/+2/-0, so the eztra 2 pb don't exist anywhere but in your imagination.
>Don't even care if it's bait.jpg

>>50405360
I took Fiendish Heritage once, the feat that lets you Roll 3 take the one you prefer on chart; wound up getting the +2 Wisdom on an Oni Blooded Tiefling, had PowerPoints for days on muh Psiwar.

>>50405380
>still ignoring the floating +2 option

hey look, a retard

>>50405364

Kanela?

>>50405172
With Azata-Blooded and Immortal Spark, that's 25 points.

>>50405395
the other fetish bait post that rivals Amalthea in shitty that-guyness, even for a /pfg/ pseudo-erp game

>>50405395
New character posted by that Espangnoll guy who makes a bunch of core only PF games that apparently explode super quick.

>>50405394
Except I'm not, because it was literally just stated that the floating +2 was a thing. Having 3 +2's lets you get that person's statline in 25pb. What even is the argument.

>>50405406
a) you can't get immortal spark, you used your SLA for an extra +2
b) even with that extra +2 you're still at 27 pb, try again

>>50405411
link, i must see

>>50405419

Dude, Amalthea is a sweetie but can you please post these in a pastebin or the Roll20 thread rather than here?

>>50405418
>doubling up on a stat with the SLA float option

that's beyond the fucking pale.

>>50405421
Wherr's the fucking extra 2 PB coming from you fucking moron. I'm looking at the numbers and they do not add up to the bullshit you're spewing.

>>50405456
He's already picked an Aasimar might as well be a gigantic fucking faggot

>>50405406
That's not what Immortal Spark is. What they're talking about is Variant Aasimar Ability 20, +2 racial bonus to dexterity, or VAA 90, +2 racial bonus to charisma.

>>50405421
No, they're not. Musetouched for +2 CHA/DEX, VAA 20 for +2 DEX.

Pre-racial 14/14/14/10/10/16, +5/+5/+5/+0/+0/+10.

>>50405419
>>50405442
Just toss the character in the trash and try again. You can masturbate when you're not at a table with other players.

>>50405395
NG Musetouched Aasimar Witch/Oracle with some seriously shitty fetish bait art and story.
>>50405442
It's *slightly* better, but still really bad. Better than Kanela though.

>look at espangnoll's picture

Jesus fuck every day we drift further from god's light.

I have to say I want to thank you all for restoring my faith in my own writing ability cause holy fuck

>putting aasimar's floating racial bonus on another racial bonus
>thinking this is okay

top kek /pfg/ you did it again

>mfw SwimmingEagle recommends an editing pass
>mfw his character isn't any better

>>50405478
Why would you bring that up? The original question was how you would get an array of 14/18/14/10/10/18, and that's exactly how to do it.

>>50405527
let's take a looksee...

>story
i think espagnoll's makes me hurl less
>character
>witch/oracle
ahahahaha

equally shit.

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>Read Amalthea and Kanelas stories
I uh
I think you guys should change some things.

>>50405470
Lilin is an aasimar...

A-am I the faggot /pfg/?

>>50405456
>>50405470
>Unironically playing an aasimar
>Expecting the player to not be at least a little bit of a faggot

I like some of the Aasimar characters that were posted, but the race is fucking stupid and gets too many things.

>>50405545
No, you're perfect the way you are!

>>50405545
yes but you can modulate your faggotry.

>>50405543
>>50405537
honestly this has restored my faith in my own ability to write.

Godbless you horrible fetish monsters.

>>50405545
did you cheese her floating bonus to double up on one of your main stats.

no.

i think you're okay.

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>>50405442

>>50405543

What's wrong with their backstories? I might just be looking at this from the wrong angle, but Amalthea's is a racy but fairly solid "Mother of God" deal while Kanela is... Okay, Kanela needs some work but Amalthea seems fine.

Could definitely tone down on the lust for pregnancy, though! Not saying it should go away - far from it in fact, the pregnancy bits work well for the concept and the kink - but emphasizing it the way the backstory does is a little much.

If you want my opinion (which I know you do) I'd put the "hyper-fertile" bits as Notes on her character sheet while keeping the "vessel for souls" thing and how she's had more than a couple kids.

>>50405585
Amalthea's is utter shite.

I think you should take your character circle jerking to another thread.

>>50405569
>>50405560
>>50405558
Oh boy, I'm only a little bit of a faggot!

She still has Alter Self 1/day. Should I keep that for lewds or change it to the variant number 67 for Scarlet Throne strikes?

>>50405596
just point and laugh at the zoo, there's nothing else to fill up /pfg/ with atm.

>>50405585
>raped by cultists

g8 backstory.

>>50405604

What could a dutiful samurai possibly turn into if she wanted to get lewd?

>>50405569
Would it be cheese to bring my Wisdom up from a 7 to a 9 with my Floating Bonus? It honestly makes more sense for her than Alter Self 1/day.

>>50405635
+2/+2/+2 statline

YOU TELL ME ANON

>>50405634
W-well all of the other women are a bit more...

>>50405634
Probably a less shit character.

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I'm handling a party of 6 people, and i'm trying to give some plots to follow to each one.

One of the problematic is a Life Oracle, with points in Alchemy. Since they're not in Golarion, i'd want him to accidentally craft a Sun Orchid Elixir, getting the ire of the local alchemists and involving Red Mantis, maybe getting a bit political with the help of the party's vigilante.
The problem is they're only level 4. Would that be still acceptable?

>>50405645
Well, I can tell that you're salty for not being a member of the Aasimar Master Race (fucking plebs swerve). My God, a race that is mechanically competitive with the Human floating bonus feat, how OP. (DESU, if Human's second +2 option didn't give up both the feat and the skill point, I'd probably chose them instead. Giving up all racial features though, that's not worth it at all).

>>50405694
but anon humans are all faggots too

>>50405688
Can I ask why you think Lilin is a shit character?

I don't know what iwas thinking. There was no point in trying. You guys have fun okay.

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>>50405747
>having fun

>>50405747
Please don't go, don't leave us with another shitty dual-fullcaster Kaijitsu.

Which character was yours again?

>thinking more about the spellslinger

God int-based grit is really the only reason I want the Siege Gunner, i'm not even sure its better than using another archetype and getting actually good abilities over targeted blast and scattershot

>>50405585
>>50405543
What's Kanela's story? I couldn't get past the fucking picture, or the fact that she's claiming to be a Kaijitsu.

>>50405634
A dude of course, for making more Aasimar more easily!

>>50405817
>Lonjiku got cucked by a tiefling mobboss
>used as blackmail
>mobboss dies
>get's raised by sacred prostitutes
>fucks off into Thassilonian laboratory
>get's tentacle raped by some lab experiment and learns witch powers.
And then some dumbshit about wanting to be a sage.

Who has the most normal, trauma-free backstory in RotJR?

Who would you have a beer with, /pfg/

>>50405869
Nobody. I wouldn't share the time of day with anybody from /pfg/

Are there any interesting martial PrCs from paizo?

they don't need to be good. Just interesting.

>>50405902
Student of War.

>>50405854
Fuck, that's not even interesting-fetishy. Fuck off, Espangnoll.

>>50405902
>Are there any interesting ... PrCs from paizo?

No

>>50405869
Define trauma and define normal first.

>>50405912
thats actually pretty cool!

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>>50405817
Dude, it could be worse.

One of my players once decided to have his Aasimar Paladin be a descendant of Ragathiel. As in, Ragathiel was 2 generations back (pops was a Half-Celestial, mom was a Halfling, Ragathiel was Grandpappy).

I told him to make Ragathiel a bit further back in his backstory.

>>50405869
Possibly Agatha, once I post her? Dockhand by day, Barfly by night, bit of a slut (Likes her men male), gets into the occasional drunken brawl that leads to passionate one night stands in a room upstairs. Had a good childhood, friendly with Ameiko, but sort of feels like she squandered her potential.

Pick related is what I'm thinking of using as her character portrait. She's frequent at the tavern, tends to draw in customers because she's hot and friendly, so she gets to drink for free, keeps getting offered a job that she turns down (is a slut, thank you, not a whore).

Rule question: For the purposes of archetype stacking, is the number of spells/extracts that you get per day a different class feature than your spell list?

Example, is an archetype that reduces your spells per day by one per level compatible with one that adds spells to your list?

>>50405869
bRoku

>>50405800
I made Onryou and I made Amalthea. Hell I even made Sweet tooth. But they're all shit. Nothing of value is lost.

>>50405958
Yes. If they both effected your Spells per day, they'd be in trouble. At least, that's how I'd rule it.

>>50405952
>bit of a slut
pls go

why erpers think having a character straight out of a porno scenario is sexy or halfway interesting i'll never know.

really sexy shit happens when it's not so on the fucking nose.

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>>50405902
Prestige Classes are out at Paizo.

Archetypes are in.

>>50405976
Dude, make a character, and make their fetish bait low-key and below the surface. Like, if sex comes up more than "the occasional tumble with a swarthy sailor" in the backstory, you're doing it wrong.

>>50405988
Oh for god's sake man, she's not some pornstar bimbo, she's just easy. She's the female equivalent of Chad. She has to be, with a statline like hers.

>>50406031
Next book has 14 new prcs anon.

Prestige Classes are BACK

Grand Marshall is also kind of interesting.

>>50406031
Which, honestly, I can't blame them too much for. It's easier to balance archetypes not that they're succeeding there than it is prestige classes which are over by character level 15.

>>50406035
Like, on the one hand you sound perfectly normal in the first half of that post, and then I remember you posted this unironically

>bit of a slut (Likes her men male), gets into the occasional drunken brawl that leads to passionate one night stands in a room upstairs.

>>50406035
If I did that people would still complain about it being too fetishy.

Not to mention they have zero interesting qualities. Fuck it ill just go back to gming. I can't make anything worth a damn

>>50406124
>still complain about it being too fetishy

Nobody called Onryou too fetishy.

>>50406124
>If I did that people would still complain about it being too fetishy.
People will complain about literally anything. This is 4chan. It's full of faggots.

I'm a faggot
He's a faggot
You're a faggot.

Just stop giving a shit.

>>50406124
Nah, you just had a really shittily written fetish in.

>>50406146
That's because people LIKE her fetish.

>>50406059
Bah, I'll admit, I was probably being a bit too explicit/over the top with that.

As said, she's basically kung-fu action female Chad. That is what I trying to get across with that sentence. If that is somehow too much for you, I don't know man.

>>50406124
Dude, if you came here looking for positive reinforcement or constructive criticism, you're gonna have a bad time.

>>50406173
i seriously don't know what her fetish is

>>50406180
>large monster girl amazon with massive tits and thighs that's looking for someone to have bonecrushing sex with
It's ain't rocket science

>>50406180
Amazonian muscle girl who hard drinking hard fighting.

>>50406199
yeah but thats natural to the character

Compare to this one which literally has RAPED BY A MONSTER/CULTISTS AND IS PREGNANT ALL THE TIME in her backstory

Ones like 'yeah i can see that' and the other is 'JESUS FUCK I GET IT ALREADY ITS YOUR MAGICAL REALM'

>>50406200
>>50406199
with bright red skin and annoying temperament? not on your life, mate

>>50406212
Don't forget
>Oh, I'm separated from my family? Time to make a new one!

>>50406229
Its the difference between something that is diegetic and natural and being hit over the head with a fucking 2x4 with the fetish

>>50406242
>>50406212
>>50406200
>>50406199
Yeah, pretty much all this. I liked Onryou even from the very beginning, and have continued to like her for how straightforward and FUN she is. She's clearly inspired by oni, amazons, and martial arts; it's something that anyone can understand, and it makes every part of her characterization refreshingly-easy to get and agree with. Of COURSE she's the way she is, and it makes sense every step of the way.

You should stick with Onryou, anon!

>>>50401673
>Take a look at all of the APs released for Pathfinder.
I have, like I said. I've carved up a few modules & APs to make my current versions of CoCT & JR. But I liked those stories to begin with.

>Or fuck, just ask for some ideas from us here on /pfg/, I have ideas and stuff for games. What sort of setting are you wanting to run your players through? High Fantasy? Low Fantasy? Science Fantasy? Modern? Hard Sci-Fi? Historical?
That's what I can't settle on. I have so many settings I WANT to run (Jade Oath, Dark Sun, Eberron, Razor Coast, etc.) but nothing is coming to the front as a clear choice since I dunno what story I wanna tell yet.

Only thing I know for sure is I want to do something more serious, less humor-driven than most games tend to go.

>>50406277
> She's clearly inspired by oni, amazons, and martial arts
It's a Female Oni Martial Artist that likes to fight eat and drink. The character is basically an eastern version of Urist McAxebeard or Elf MCPrissyArcher.

>>50406360
there's nothing wrong with that though

I love how in their quest to make AP characters, this entire thread is literally incapable of just making "Normal fucking person who lives in a normal town and isn't the spawn of 7 cults, 5 rapes, and a dream to become the very best wizard-baseball player ever".

Nigga, basic AP rules: DO NOT BE RELATED TO ANYONE, Stop with this convoluted relationship connection shit, and just make a normal-ass person.

>>50406382
I mean gamagirly is literally the most normal character I've ever made but nobody liked her.

>>50406382
it's like they don't realize we're not doing Jade Regent's open, we're doing RotR's open so we can be normal outsiders who gain an emotional tie.

>>50406382
>Stop with this convoluted relationship connection shit, and just make a normal-ass person.
People without families are outside the norm

>>50406382
>Normal fucking person who lives in a normal town and isn't the spawn of 7 cults, 5 rapes, and a dream to become the very best wizard-baseball player ever".

That describes like several characters though, unless your going to start shitting on characters for daring to have aspirations to.
>DO NOT BE RELATED TO ANYONE
So every character should be a mercenary with no parents, no friends, and no ambitions aside from acquiring more magic items to get to the next boss.

>>50406277
Yeah im being a little whiny bitch and I know it.

Still I have an addiction to making characters. I'd probably never have even played Amalthea any how.

I just can't make the whole ultimate mother / mystical pregnancy work. Unless you guys can think of something.

>>50406393
I keep hearing about this. For months.

When are you idiots actually going to play? I've been 20 sessions into the same campaign, AND it's better written, AND it's not in text, and you people haven't even started.

>>50406382
Agatha is normal! Literally a dockhand who likes to drink.

>>50406393
I didn't know that.

>>50405949
Yeah, it's what my current PC is. Two levels in SoW for Mind over Metal, the rest Slayer.

>>50406408
yes be the fucking seven samurai to sandpoint

>>50406408
>So every character should be a mercenary with no parents, no friends, and no ambitions aside from acquiring more magic items to get to the next boss.
No, they should be related to people who aren't the fucking main characters of the story.

No, you're not related to Ameiko, Sandru, or Shalelu. If you were, you'd be in their fucking backstory, and they don't need a half-Orc adopted sibling just because you're a fuckin' retard.

>>50405976
I unironically liked Onryou, the character grew on me and the interactions between her and Shizuka looked like all kinds of adorable. The other two were a bit too fetishbait-y for me, though.

>>50406389
You're telling me nobody liked a straight character steal?

>>50406415
hahahah oh anon

most of us are never going to play

we're just going to continue slowly dying inside.

>>50405585
As someone who does get a serious hard-on from impregnation and the like, I can honestly agree that all that emphasis does indeed have "inserting magical realm" written all over it.

But as much as I'd put that to use or fapping, that's not a good thing in a multiplayer roleplaying session.

>>50406436
fun things aren't fun i guess.

>>50406429
>No, you're not related to Ameiko, Sandru, or Shalelu.
Except these are all literally campaign traits in Jade Regeant and Runelords(to a lesser extent).

>>50406440
Nobody's going to play, the game is never going to run.

>>50406451
Fun things are fun, but of course people aren't going to enjoy a r63 character compared to new more interesting characters.

>>50406440
So then what the fuck is this thread even?

You just make shitty characters for a game that's never going to happen, that you wouldn't even have fun playing if it did because you don't know anyone involved?

>>50406464
yeah i'm over it at this point

>>50406454
>literally none of the Runlords traits are like this

>>50406475
... Yeah what do you do for fun?

>>50406475
What is this "fun" of which you speak?

>>50406454
>Except these are all literally campaign traits in Jade Regeant and Runelords(to a lesser extent).>>
NEVER, EVER USE CAMPAIGN TRAITS THEY ARE ALWAYS FUCKING HORRIBLE.

If you literally can't look at an NPC and imagine developing a relationship with that character in any way other than "lol deyre my haf sister", you're an idiot.

Yes, Jade Regent has traits making you family members. Yes, Crimson Throne also has traits making Gaedren the most important fucking thing in your life. THEY BOTH FAIL THE PURPOSE OF THE STORY.

>>50406501
>ALWAYS FUCKING HORRIBLE
Outlander (Exile) would like a word with you.

>>50406485
I put groups together and run campaigns.

>>50406481
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/campaign-traits/rise-of-the-runelords/favored-son-daughter
>>50406501
>NEVER, EVER USE CAMPAIGN TRAITS THEY ARE ALWAYS FUCKING HORRIBLE.
>how dare people want a stake in the story
>how dare people not powergame and take traits they want thematically instead of Reactionary and some bonus to perception.
I don't see why you're getting so mad at this?

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>>50406501

>>50406515
>run campaigns

Great you're just like everyone else in this thread

Some of us dream of being players too. Not just GM's.

>>50406530
He speaks the truth

>>50406521
>>how dare people want a stake in the story
Traits don't give you a stake in the story, because the story continues long after the point of the trait is done. A player should be less concerned with wrenching their background to fit the text of a trait and more concerned with building a believable part of the world. "Ameiko's Sister/Brother" is not an interesting character just because Ameiko is.

>>how dare people not powergame
Literally could not care less about the mechanical aspects of traits. They could be completely mechanics-free for all I care, I'd still feel the same way.

>>50406530
>Some of us dream of being players too.
I don't, I'm a horrible player. Not enough things to focus on/think about, I get bored when I get ahead of the plot. Plus a lot of things DMs do just grates on me like sandpaper.

>>50406501
>If you literally can't look at an NPC and imagine developing a relationship with that character in any way other than "lol deyre my haf sister", you're an idiot.
Except there are still several characters related to Ameiko that aren't related by blood. Are yoi mad people are inserting themselves into a made up family tree. i mean canonically Lonjiku and his wife both fucked around a lot.

>>50406548
of course I do

now i'm just feeling depressed because i enjoyed prcs back in 3.5 and pathfinder ones are all garbage

So, on the autismal to tolerable spectrum, where do the non-traumatized non-fetish bait non-plotshoehorned-in and non-THISCHARACTERISGORGEOUS applicants rate?

that's... Lilin version 2.0, Silvia the awoo, Amandia iRobot, Roku Boku, Doublecaster Amalia, Spooky Grayson, Lilin 2.- i mean Togeko, and /pfg/anon's loose Agatha.


>>50406521
>normal likeable villager
>AMEIKO'S CREEPY BOSOM BUDDY
not the same thing

>>50406611
we're all autismimal

>>50406611
Lilin is bad, amalia is bad, lilin is bad, togeko is bad and agatha is bad.

>>50406578
Oh yeah, why not just have a whole party of Ameiko's non-blood siblings? It's unique and interesting enough for everyone, right? That way you don't have to fight over who gets to be related to her.

>>50406622
>Lilin is bad
What did I ever do to you?

>>50406611
Are you automatically not including anyone who has a stake in Sandpoint, like Casimir, Shizuka, Gil, and the like? That seems kind of stupid, since most of them are the ones with the least autism.

>>50406625
>Oh yeah, why not just have a whole party of Ameiko's non-blood siblings?
I mean people who are written as knowing Ameiko but aren't family members, don't be fucking dense faggot.

>>50406638
Wrote a bad character, duh.

>>50406639
The level of trauma emanating from those characters is enough to power a CW show for 6 seasons.

>>50406650
Do you have any criticism or do you just not like her?

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>>50406577
>laser focusing on the most memetastic trait that probably only exists because one of the devs probably played too much fire emblem and thought an incest arc would be funny
>ignoring the fact that a lot of the traits amount to "you look up to this npc" or "you pined after this NPC as a kid and still kind of do now"
>even some of the more dubious ones amount to "your family was friends with this other family" or "you got rescued by this NPC because you were being a dumbass"

The traits aren't supposed to be something you lean super hard on, they're there to rope you in and give you ideas for something to work with

>>50406657
>Gil
>trauma

Isn't he literally just a fox? How much trauma could he possibly have?

I'm telling you man, all of your characters would be rejected in my games. If this thread shows how badly you do with a simple Sandpoint villager, I'd be mortified to see what you retards come up with when I ask for 3 created NPCs your PC has connection to in the world.

And the worst part is, you think it's the DM's fault for rejecting you.

>>50406657
>trauma
>I retired and my wife died and I got a bit depressed
>I got caught in a fox trap, and some bitch saved me
>Shizuka literally had nothing traumatic happen to her in the slightest.
Holy shit, you have be trolling

>>50406673
>and thought an incest arc would be funny
Honestly probably didn't think the people choosing that trait would go for the romance option. Not everybody is a degenerate like us.

>>50406673
>"you got rescued by this NPC because you were being a dumbass"
Oh god that's the worst fucking one.

>>50406657
... WHAT trauma? No seriously, where?

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>>50406686
No i think its my own fault because i can't write characters

>>50406708
He's just a faggot who's shitposting.

>>50406686
This entire post smells of someone who thinks he's a better GM than he really is. I should know, I've said the same thing before when I was a REALLY SHITTY GM.

>>50406689
>my wife died abloobloobloo
>my crush died in a church fire abloobloobloo
>Shizuka i am a kaijitsu because there is nothing else interesting about me to tie me to the plot

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>>50406686
>simple sandpoint villager
>in a gestalt PoW/SoP game that starts at level 3

I've played "simple villager" before in normal games. If you give me a massive toolbox of crazy things to pick from, why are you expecting me to play a "normal" person?

>>50404323
>captain america - the class

aww yeah. I want more of that kinda stuff
Preferably some good prestige classes, ideas on how to enchant armor/shield, and generally tanking advice.

>>50406712
But how? It's a simple thing.

>Take a basic template
>Add a goal, a belief, and a skill or method.
>Make it make sense within the world
>And most of all, make sure that, even with no campaign happening, this character could function in day-to-day life in this world since murderhobo-treasure-questing isn't a real job.

That's it. That's all there is. Stop thinking about your level 20 build, your super-cool character arc, and who you're going to fuck along the way. Those won't happen.

>>50406737
So characters aren't allowed to have anything bad happen to them ever now?

>>50406755
but anon you forget that i'm garbage.

>>50406737
>I'm salty because people don't agree with me: the post

>>50406757
not when they use it as a crutch for a distinct lack of personality beyond "bad things happened to me so i am sad."

>>50406738
If you're playing a PoW/SoP gestalt level 3 character, you don't need to actually make a character, since the game you're playing is not about your characters and what happens to them, it's about fighting things and winning big battles with your special powers.

You're bragging about lack of character development and logic in a game that is specifically designed to eschew those things.

>>50406783
Except they're not.

>>50406803
burden of proof
>>50406774
it's cute that you think it's only one person looking at these apps and going "oh my God most of these are purple prose shite"

>>50406820
>burden of proof
That's not how this works.

You just came into the thread and started screaming about people making characters you didn't like.

>>50406735
If expecting a little more effort and care about the game from your players is a sign of a shit DM, that's fine with me.

>>50406783
>my wife died and I mourned, then I got on with my life
>my crush died during a church fire that killed literally dozens of people, and it made me reexamine my priorities
>my character is a shut-in who found a cool book of magic
>implying any of these are terrible "abloobloo sad" levels of trauma

>>50406796
>people cannot have fun, interesting characters that are over-the-top and mechanically entertaining to play

It's amazing how starved for conversation we are that this is the bait we have to take.

>>50406796
Bit of an exaggeration; one should not use their combat capabilities to replace having a personality: It's not 'character' for your character any more than "was raped" or "is trans" would be; that is to say not at all.

However, it's true that a PoW or SoP gestalt character is probably not going to be living in happy talky funtown campaignwise.

Could be a 'simple villager' though, not everyone has massive, wild ambitions, and you've got some training and abilities to explain. Obviously you've reached level 3 this way but still came back, so surely the village *means* something to you, and you probably have quite a few anecdotes and experiences to share with other locals.

You're the guy that went and got the big diplomas and everything, and then came right back to podunk. Gotta be something there.

>>50406878
I don't know why the GM started this shit MONTHS before it actually began.

>Last game, I had a player die in a fight which was a cool catalyst for a small side-plot about using the recovered Secrets of the Dreaming Dark + Permanency scroll to perform an occult ritual that brought him back, albeit tainted.

>This time, no one died so I probably won't be able to use that plot again.

I'm kinda hoping it happens cuz it was pretty cool. I even made a handout and everything.

>>50406889
Because they wanted cancer filled threads. And we've had them ever since. It's malignant.

any of you who felt even an inkling of being baited in this convo ought to take a good long look at your characters. you owe it to the DM and to the other players.

>>50406889
gives us something to chat about i guess

>>50406926
>actually having characters

ecks dee.

>>50406940
>keep staring at the siege gunner archetype
>getting 60ft cone shotgun scatters

its so tempting.

Alright /pfg/, it's a couple threads in the making, but the ROTJR Bimbo Bondage Paladin is done. Who wants to look at her character sheet and tell me if it was worth it or not? http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1019863

>>50406783

Literally the most abloobloo backstory is Casimir, and of fucking course you're going to be a little salty that your wife of however many years got killed in a senseless tragedy - and he doesn't even stay depressed, he got over it and has a haunting regret that he could have done something more to save her (which is basically Survivor's Guilt 101.)

>>50407011
didn't meant o reply to someone but ohwell

>>50407037
I thought that would be Riktor's?

>>50407034
>Bimbo Bondage Paladin
>Worth it or not
It most definitely is not.

honestly i'm just praying for death's sweet embrace

>>50407034
>Bimbo Bondage Paladin
It's time to stop.

Geisha is a shittastic archetype desu.

>>50407066
This is the future you chose; someone called my bluff so I did it.

>>50407107
It's like the only one that stacks with Rubato and I wanted to get rid of Bardic Knowledge.

>>50407117
You just want to play Darkness

>>50407123
Who?

>>50407123
Who?

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Looking into making a Warlord for an upcoming game with a focus on Mithral current style. How do I make it a good investment? What makes Current good?

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>>50407034
>>50407117

Anon, I'm going to come out and say that I enjoy the thought of a carefree, vaguely airheaded and openly sexual character as much as the next guy, but for the love of God and all that is holy *please* don't make the fetishes an emphasis of the character - keep her tall, keep her curvy, heck keep the tattoos and a piercing here or there, but the bondage focus might not be the best thing to do for a game that's meant to be explicitly non-sexual until the moment someone gets dragged into a side-channel.

Heck, why not try >>50407123 and make Darkness? Same concept of getting hurt and enjoying it, but the woman doesn't walk around in fetish gear, she just seems a little *too* into getting smacked in the stomach with someone's club.

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>>50407142
>>50407147
Darkness you plebs.

>>50407161
counters, wave vulnerability, mithral style feats, dual crash.

go bushi or drop the feats for Mixed Combat tree, pick a discipline weapon for that +2 DC for wave vulnerability proccing/tripping, do hilariously bullshit counters with your high Cha Perform Dance, use mithral style feats to keep getting silver vulnerability

invest in a mithral weapon or a Mithral Rose

>>50407166

Well, Zeldana *doesn't* walk around in Fetish gear--I took the spiked armor mostly so I could have something to do if someone got in my reach before I get Haft Strike and until I can drop my lucerne to bring out warhammer and shield; while I'm pitching her concept as Bimbo Bondage Paladin I was hoping to explain it more fully on her sheet that while she's open about her preferences she won't be rubbing them in people's face all the time.

Though the bit of referance that not all the spikes are *just* on the armor was meant to evoke a bit of memory that she did pick up the preferences from a Zon-Kuthonite. I could easily redact that, though.

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Will /pfg/ be filled with RotJR fetish circlejerking for the next two months?

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>>50407212
seriously i don't see why she can't just be darkness.

>>50406926
I mean, I already know that for a "serious application" I would have to strip down the fluff text to the essentials, and make sure it was no more than 2 Paragraphs max. Outline in one, description in the second, if not woven together. Considering the game is months off, all I'm doing now is fucking about to get a bit of practice with writing backstories in different ways, because it's more fun to write when you know there's something to throw it at.

>>50407225
we've been doing it for the past two

Fuck it Amalthea is back in business.

She's now just "a vessel of reincarnation" nothing more.

Lamastu is out completely.

And she nearly died escaping bandits and falling down a ravine.

>>50407225
Would you rather we circlejerked about crossdressing traps or how much we hate JJ?

The worst bit is NToRacle is definitely one of the front runners for best written back story. In my opinion the best written one.

>>50403273
Is there a way to use a monk weapon effictively on the Unchained Monk? I know the style strikes are typically specific to various unarmed strikes
Also, whether through 1st or 3rd party, has anyone made UC Monk archetypes/updated core monk archetypes to Unchained?

>>50407268
>The worst bit is NToRacle is definitely one of the front runners for best written back story

Who would you put in the top four?

>>50407225
RotJR?

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>>50407201

wave vulnerability is the silver vulnerability some powers grant, right? Are the Style feats for mithral current worth it? I imagine the 10 feet step in conjunction with the counters they get can be really good.

But basically I imagine most of the damage comes from getting a silver vulnerability on the enemy, and then going to town next round with a full attack?

>>50407313
yeah. and the style feats expand that vuln. with a mithral rose or a mithral weapon you're doing +50% a lot

while being fucking STYLING

>>50407268
Hi, Depressed Homebrewer.

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>>50407244
>And she nearly died escaping bandits and falling down a ravine.

Might I suggest something?

The birth of her twins and her getting chased by bandits feel a little choppy, why don't you weave the two together somehow? Perhaps her children's father was a rival bandit king and they were targeting her, or perhaps he was a merchant that got caught in an ambush and she was forced to go to a ransom gone wrong - heck, if you wanted to *really* get topical the father ran out after discovering she was giving him one too many mouths to feed, and her efforts to put food on the table caused her to run afoul with a local street gang.

Ooh, maybe their father was muscle for the local Sczarni (might even be Jubrayl's spawn) which gives her tenuous ties to both Koya *and* Sandru.

>despite all the fetishposting the party just ends up as a doujin version of Konosuba

this is the reality i want to believe in

>>50407421

Zeldana is clearly Darkness, but who is Aqua, Megumin and Kazuma?

>>50407313
Source for that picture?

>>50407439
Omza is Megumin.

>>50407227

Mostly because I haven't watched this anime, but from what I have seen on a cursory google she would basically be close to Darkness in reactions to combat, I think? Should I remove some of the facial piercings, then, and the armor spike reference?

>>50407276
>>50407276
NToRacle
Singing Samurai
Casmir
Anja

Personally I don't like the siblings that much.

>>50407439
I'm working on a chuuni right now

>>50407479
>Should I remove some of the facial piercings, then, and the armor spike reference?

I personally would; she could still have piercings and tattoos "somewhere else", but you know what? That stuff's only going to come up when things are getting overtly sexual anyway, so it's fine to have those.

The armor spikes are *fine*, but they're just a little difficult to work without making it a clear Zon-Kuthon reference. If you want some inspiration, check out Laori Vaus.

>>50407525

Laori Vaus was actually my inspiration for them; I remembered, or I thought I did, at the spikes on her armor in the art aren't *actually* attached to the armor, but rather to her; I thought it was a neat idea, so thought doing a limited version of it might make sense for someone who let a Kuthonite influence her opinions on body modifications for awhile.

The idea being that ones along her spine are in-set into her body, but they're basically 'snapped' into metal implanted holes there, so they can be taken out for cleaning and if needed for other purposes, but I felt like going into that much detail on the sheet for something that probably wouldn't matter at all in main session stuff was a little too much.

>>50407465
Aside from them both being blasters,with a preference for fire stuff I don't see it.

Hi, Rokuposter here.

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4278594/

What does /pfg/ think about Roku's story now? What kind of information would /pfg/ like to read about?

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>>50407586
You don't see the similarities?

>>50407410
Hey that's pretty awesome.

Would it be too silly and have points one thee and four combined? Or even an all of the above scenario?

Has kids with the muscle. He skipped town after the twins are born. She gets inaanother relationship with a merchant and they're attacked by the bandits.this might also explain why she has another baby on the way.

>>50407373
>>50407373
Not even, DHB uses the character's actual name. I get a feeling he hates the NTR meme. That's why he backlashed against it.

>>50407607
>this guy

REMOVE DIPPER

>>50407498
Is that Lilin in the character discussion thread or the Lilin I wrote about more recently?

Am I the only one that thinks all of the backstories so far, with the exception of the Pregnant medium and the Witch/Oracle are good to okay? Like I wouldn't mind being in a party with any of these characters?

>>50407624
He seems to have gotten rid of the Incanter level.

>>50407636
R E M O V E D I P P E R

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>>50407561

I like that, it's something that will only come up when she's showing off her back anyway, and most situations where that'll occur are either side-channel shenanigans, or far enough into the campaign that we're all comfortable with baring a little skin... Besides the smut potential of having hooks on your back to insert things for gripping or tugging her along.

The spikes on the rest of her, however, are probably better thrown out - Ex-Kuthonite she may be, having freaky metal bits digging into your flesh as an armor feature is one step beyond simple piercings or tattoos - THAT SAID, her association of pain with pleasure would probably cause her to be something of a masochist, you know how you get that raw, empty feeling after getting pressure put on a particular spot after so much time? I figure she's got that gnawing sensation on her skin too, which is why she might be a fan of tight clothing, people touching her or even getting handled roughly on or off the field to alleviate that feeling. I'm absolutely not advocating this being a major facet of the character, but it's something to consider in how she behaves and dresses.

>>50407607
>Reverse image search
>It's from an Alice Soft eroge

>>50407655
>he's probably the guy that fucks your waifu

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>>50407371
The only style feat taht expands on it is the lats one where your first attack gets vulnerability, right?

>>50407454
One of the shadowverse podcasts with the Seiyuu.

>>50407663
yeah. it's a nice, long term feat build

>>50407655
Ayyy, somebody caught that. Good job.
>>50407660
No actually, he's a minor villain/subboss that makes a Frankenstein character and that you can recruit.

>>50407628
None of them have been offensively bad until the most recent two, and I wouldn't have minded at least doing a oneshot with them to see if the players clicked with eachother.

>>50407671
Besides the three mithral current feats and mixed combat what other feats are necessary?

>>50407654

Oh, no, the armor spikes face outward! And like I said, they're actually there for a mechanical purpose--to let me at least threaten the area directly around me while using my reach weapon until I can get Haft Strike, a 'just in case' thing for grapples or getting swallowed whole, and because I think spikey armor looks cool even on non-villanous characters..

And as far as the second spoiler; noted and understood, I was imagining she preferred tight clothing anyway and was very much a touchy girl who likes to be reciprocated on with that. There comes a point where things get TOO rough, though; as far as her BDSM preferences go, she takes SSC as seriously as her paladin vows.

>>50405902
Horizon Walker

>>50407628
You are not alone, most of these backgrounds are fine and aren't really a decent indicator of how well the players and characters would actually work together. There's a lot of player idiosyncrasies that go into group dynamics and a lot of character personality that doesn't really come across clearly from backstories.

>>50407687
just those. but if you go bushi you pretty much don't need mixed combat, quick draw, or improved quick draw

which is why everyone goes bushi

>>50407754
If you had to choose a group, who would be included? From both a mechanics and story perspective. Cover all your story and role bases.

>>50407225
No, eventually everyone will realize that RotJR isn't going to happen and we'll go back to the regular fetish circlejerking.

>>50407783
I opted to not go bushi - just regular warlord. Might have fucked up then.

>>50407628
I'm not so hot on a few others - Corwin strikes me as a bit obnoxious, and Akane looks pretty poor, but I wouldn't even mind them. None of them are the 0/10 PLEASE REMOVE that some people are saying they are.

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>>50407708

Ooh, in that case I'm actually pretty darn fine with the spikes - don't make her a porcupine of course, but a jagged edge here and there would go a long way to show off her history with the Kuthites and give her something to poke and finger during downtime!

She honestly sounds like a fine character, good balance between the campaign and private channel potential! Figure out a solid picture for her and good luck!

Throwing a potential image out there because why not.

>>50407798
Rate all of them (or as many as you can stomach)

Has your party ever ran away from a fight?

We did. We were fighting a 15-headed Hydra and had no way to prevent the heads from growing back and getting too close to it would get us absolutely BTFO.

>>50407833
>>50407798
This please

>>50407833
Just say which one you want him to criticize.

>>50407843
This

>>50407841
>>50407833
You two autists just need to say which ones annoy you. It's okay, it's an anonymous board. next thread we won't know who you are.

>>50407836
Fuckin' no.

Which sucks for them because they're a mostly-melee party with only a Cleric for magic, fighting a Worm That Walks, and Rakshasa now and basically their plan is "Hope we make the spell saves and then hit it".

>>50407836
>Has your party ever ran away from a fight?

We have! It was a kill-squad of knights under orders from a Duke that was a little pissed off we found evidence of his treason. Not only were the knights largely innocent (they were just following orders and unaware of the treason) they were mounted Cavaliers on an open field. Now, the Cavalier is a great many bad things, but the one place it shines is open fields.

>>50407821

Excellent, then; I might have to change her hair and eye color at some point, because finding a rainbow-haired girl in armor That isn't a pony character is fairly hard, but honestly I'm okay with that.

On another note;

Does anyone know an interesting way to handle the auction event from Dragon's Demand? It's happening in my campaign, and last time I tried it, it was just a bunch of me monologuing to myself because none of the players were interested in bidding on any of the items.

>>50407903

There's honestly not much you can do besides hope that immersing your players enough into the campaign will encourage them to buy knick-knacks from an auction - if you give them extra gold they'll just pocket it, and if you custom-tailor the items they might get a touch too tough for later encounters.

>>50407784
Omza, NTROrcale, Corwin, Doesn't matter.

That seems to have the greatest shit storm potential.

>>50407928
Why do you say that? What form would he shit storm take. Take me on a spirit journey.

>>50407798
>Corwin strikes me as a bit obnoxious

Would you care to elaborate?

(Guy playing Corwin)

>>50407923
I get all that. I literally just want to know how to handle the event if none of them are interested. Like, there's some developments that happen during it, but they're buried at the end, so either;

>We skip all the irrelevant stuff and just say "During the event, these people got angry and stormed out" or something, and plant a big, obvious red flag for the players to follow

or

>Play the whole thing through including fake auctions on things players aren't interested in, meaning that by the time we get to the disturbances, they've tuned out and miss it completely

>>50407967
>Omza is in love with Ameiko
>NTROrcale is in love with Ameiko
>Corwin is an attractive male who was close with Ameiko, and may or may not have fucked her.

>>50407995
Let's compare their attractiveness scores.

>>50407995
>Corwin
Yeah he fucked her when she was like 14, right?

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>>50408027
>Yeah he fucked her when she was like 14, right?

I thought Ameiko's first love was that dreamy Shelyn priest she adventured with before he selflessly gave his life to save hers.

>>50408027
>Yeah he fucked her when she was like 14, right?

Nope. Someone else was meme-ing my character.

>>50408027
What's the equation again?

Shouldn't Corwin's HP be 31? Shouldn't his damage, even with power attack, be +10?

Maybe I'm doing maths wrong, but I think there are little disparities in Corwin's stats.

>>50408078
Highest of Str or Dex + Con + Cha divided by 3.

>>50408078
>What's the equation again?

(Str+Dex+Con+Cha) / 4 = Appearance.

The majority numbers in each attribute hint at what aspects of them are so attractive.

>>50408109
It's highest of Str or Dex, not both.

>>50408109
>do my char
>10.75

Am I cute uguu

>>50408091

Completely possible I made some mistake, put the sheet together in ~15 minutes.

But here are my calculations:
HP: 12 Barb + 6 Warlord + 6 Warlord + 6 Con + 3 Favored Class = 33

Damage: 6 Two Handed Str + 3 Power attack + 1 Weapon Enchantment + 2 Discipline Focus(Mithral Current)

>>50408121
>>50408108
This makes Roku 13.333333333.

I guess he's kind of pretty underneath that helmet he never takes off.

>>50408136
5 and 5 warlord. DM said take half.

>>50408146
>I guess he's kind of pretty underneath that helmet he never takes off.

He really should take that helmet off more often, anon.

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>>50407636
>>50407647
Why does /pfg/ go autistic over people 1 level dipping incanter?

>>50408160
Woops, thought he said average. Thanks!

>>50408163
But then he would be judged on his appearance, and not on his rippling muscles, healthy complexion, and giant height. You superficial fuck.

>>50408167
Remove dipper

>>50407833
Hoo boy. This is just from the character discussions thread.

Khair - The tinkering sounds cool, but the body image issues scream projection and the gestalt is Full Caster || Half Caster/Half Initiator
Onryou - I'll admit I'm biased towards muscle grills, so take this with a bit of salt. Still, deduct points for lack of motivation.
Lilin - A bit of abloobloo backstory, but I've never played with a paladin that angsted. Again, personal experience.
Shizuka - Similar to Onryou, lack of motivation hurts, but at the same time I can't bring myself to hate a Living Grimoire.
Omza - His backstory seems to lack anything outside of his connection to Ameiko, given his killed off mother, and his class pick is just below the double full casters.
Anja - Love it. The idea of a depression eating spirit is just so packed with potential that I want to see where it goes.
Casimir - Oldest character there, which makes him stand out. I enjoy the idea of the secret swordmaster, but as with Omza killed off backstory characters strike a poor chord.
Silvia - Similar to Lilin, a bit abloobloo, a bit of paladin to undercut it, but with the addition of some whimsy and wanderlust I rate her higher.
Gil - Non-lewd kitsune. Points for that, and points because I can imagine what he'd do without going on an adventure.
Amandia - Backstory is interesting, in that it's something that makes US sad but not the character. Android learning to feel is a story I like.
Corwin - "My mom is secretly an evil warlord!" Doesn't do anything for me, and the fact that he just decided to sign up with the army? Eh. not my taste.
Roku - Seems rather bro-tier, but there's not much to go off of. Half-giant samurai, honorabu, but there's just not much there.
Akane - Her character traits are 'pretty' and 'obedient,' and yet she disobeys Lonjiku? Plus she never actually does much. Just a bit boring desu, and going double full caster...

Comment's too long, I'll continue later.

>>50408178

Nigga are you even considering the Fabio potential you could have going on here? Give him a chiseled jaw, dreamy blue eyes and lustrous dark hair, he's got so much potential to be a guy women want to get on their tip-toes to give him a kiss.

>>50408108
>>50408121
>Omza
12
>Corwin
14
>NToRacle
16

Hmmm

>>50408121
Reminder that with this stupid system.
>Giant Stag Beetle =12.666
>Troll = 16.666
>Tarrasque = 29.666
The Tarrasque is a sex god using this system.
Let that sink in.

>>50408200
Rokuposter here, thanks for the compliment. I'm trying to make sure I don't over-tell his story, but I agree he needs some more... substance. What kind of additions do you suggest for his backstory? I want to make him compelling, but not too emotion-wracked.

>>50408209
I gave him storm-weathered grey eyes that pierce from the depths of his tall steel helm, and dark-brown hair.
Psst he looks like this:
http://i.imgur.com/H0TmS6R.png

>>50408121
Oh, is it?

Then my girl got a flat 15.

>>50408250
Sex God? Nah he just really majestic.

>>50408231
NToRacle could have an appearance of 3, he's got that +50 or whatever Diplomacy so it really doesn't matter.
>>50408250
>HURRRRR: The Post

>>50408250
I'm sure to others of its species, it IS a sex god.

There's no accounting for personal taste.

>>50408269
Praise Tarrasque

I'm not following. Who is NToRacle and why is he NTR?

>>50408252
What motivates HIM. Not his order, or his clan, or whatever, what motivates him in particular?

>>50408250
Hah.

The Thriae Queen is a 27.

>>50408271
>>HURRRRR: The Post
>I can't actually respond to a good point.

>>50408200
>and his class pick is just below the double full casters.
Hedgwitch isn't a full caster. Not that Sphere Fullcastering and Vancian fullcastering is even comparable.

>>50408303
That's why it's just below double full casters.