Age of Sigmar General

First for steam dwarves vs. Tzeentch fags.

>>50402006
I'm just hoping that Tzaangors will get their own kit in AoS

"Getting rid of Tomb Kings was a mistake." Seriously, Death needs more shit.

>>50402006
I just hope they don't make them look too much sci fi'ish

>>50402155

Inb4 settra returns at the head of some fucking living death kingdom.

Why? Because fuck you settra does what settra wants. If settra wants to live settra wills himself to fucking live.

>>50402135
The 40k kit comes with normal weapons and shields. In fact, the chainsword and autopistols are on a seperate fucking sprue than everything else, which leads me to believe it was an AoS kit that they last minute retrofitted to 40k for whatever reason

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Preorders for the 40k tzeentch stuff are starting to go up around the world (they're up in the UK just now). Good news is that looking at the tzaangor sprues they definitely have bits (blades & shields) to build them as AOS dudes. Hell, the 40k sprue seems like an afterthought, seems pretty clear they were designed for AOS first.

>>50402234
It's a shame their warscroll is such crap, I'd love actually fielding the models...

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>>50402240
oh god yes

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>>50402240
Fuck yeah!

>>50402240
>>50402234
>shields
>greataxes
>dual weapons
Delicious. Now give us an actual warscroll with actually worthwhile stats, because I am tired of treating them as Bestigors.

>>50402240
Fuck...now I am at a crossroad. Should I get a box of them for my beastmen in AoS or use them as mutant rabble for my Renegades & Heretics in 40k.
Help me /tg/!

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>>50402159
We have a Cogsmith mini already.

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>>50402363
>pic related

>>50402363
Use 'em for both? It's not like there's any issue with the bases or anything anymore.

>>50402662
But I want autopistols on my mutants and you can't really have those in AoS

CAPCHA: magic beast

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Been thinking about dryads a bit lately...specially Drycha.
Did a drawing that's supposed to be her starting to kinda strip out of her armour, but well....didn't have any reference material at hand, so it looks especially shitty.

Bought a box of Spite Revanants to test my color scheme on. Gonna wait for the new battle box now.

>>50402728
magnets son

>>50402771
What scheme are you doing?
You doing an outcast heavy army?

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pretty sure im the best paint on /tg/

>>50403622
Were you the guy in the previous thread that said you were painting your first minis?

>>50403641

yeah, i forgot to post when i got home

>>50403657
For your first minis they look pretty good. Paint might be a bit thick, but thinning is something you learn over time. Do you own any washes? Because I think with a nice wash they would look good on tabletop.

>>50403677
Also, what plans do you have for their bases?

>>50403622
At least you don't do commissions like the Silver Tower guy.

Anyway, advice.

First of all, before painting your models. remove mould lines. If you look at their fingers, and down the middle of their heads, you can see a plastic ridge running down it. That is an imperfection left by the moulding process, and before you start painting it is a good idea to remove it.
The easiest way to do that is to just get a knife, and gently drag it towards you, with the blunt end of the knife going first (so you are dragging the sharp bit, and not pushing it into the model).
A file will work as well, but you need to be more careful you don't file away the actual model.

Second, undercoat your models with something. Paint doesn't stick to bare plastic all that well. You can buy some paint on primer from GW, or you can get some spray paint, which is a lot easier and quicker.
GWs spraypaint isn't actually primer (primer is a special formula, so it sticks to stuff better), but it doesn't really matter.
This will give you a better surface to paint on.

The next thing you need to do is thin your paint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

Just put a little paint on a palette of some kind, then mix it with a bit of water. One brushload water to two brushloads of paint is normally fine. It should have the consistency of milk.
The paint will not cover as well, but you can simply paint on another thin layer. This way, you get a more solid, consistent looking colour without obscuring the detail.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEaPE4sLDA7s-26V0v6SepDFiznb3y6hx
This is a useful channel. At the bottom of the playlist there are videos explaining what each of the types of paint are, and just above that is a tutorial for painting various models. Although they are not your army, he still covers the basics of painting, so they are useful to watch anyway,

>>50403677

I have one wash (agrax earthshade, dunno if that means anything to you). No idea what im doing for bases, probably a plain earth brown colour, nothing fancy.

I'm currently on my 6th monk so Im sure by the 20th I will have picked up a few things, I'm just starting to thin my paint now. Now idea how im gonna do the plague claw or plague furnace though.

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>>50403622
>>50403724
And just so you don't feel discouraged. Here is one of my old models from two years ago, compared to one of my more recent models.

>>50403724

Thanks for advice. I'm already priming with abaddon black but I don't have actual primer paint or spray. But im doing that by hand so no spray.

>>50403791
The most important tip for you to follow is to properly thin your paint really. If you do that, then that is already half the battle won.

>>50403791
Not him, but I'd *really* recommend a white primer spray.

Are you watching the stream on Twitch?

I used to play WHF as a kid (2003/2004 I guess?) and still have minis from that time (about 2k pts Imperials and 2k pts Bretons).

What would it take me to get into AoS? Are there any drastic changes in the rules? Can I still use my old armies?

>>50403791
>>50403805

Also modelling related question

I've got a model who has a gong but I didn't realise it was a gong when I put it together so I gave him a knife as well as a gong. In images I've seen online for plague monks the guy hold the gong holds a mallet and not a knife. Have I fucked up? Was the guy meant to have a mallet or can he just have a knife. sorry this is a really random niche question.

>>50403867
It is only a small mistake, so it isn't the end of the world.

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>>50403858
>brets
Tremendously strong right now. AoS was the update brets needed for several editions, which is kinda sad.

>>50403858
>What would it take me to get into AoS?
No much. Rules are intuitive, and you can learn them in a single demo.

>Are there any drastic changes in the rules?
It's a completely different game.

>Can I still use my old armies?
Yes. Your armies are totally fine.

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>>50403858
>empire
Gun-Fu Handgunner meme aside, Empire is also pretty good. Balanced on all fronts with very little in the way of major weaknesses.

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>>50403858
>rules
It's a radically different game. It'd be probably for the best to throw out all preconceptions from WHFB in regards to AoS. None of them will apply and many actually run counter to what you're used to.
Check them out, it's only four pages.

>>50403905
>>50403912
>>50403947
Thanks dude/guys. Would've been a shame if i spent all that money for nothing...
Also am I getting this right, does GW no longer sell Breton minis?

>>50403749
>No idea what im doing for bases, probably a plain earth brown colour, nothing fancy

Maybe you should check out GW's texture paints for a theme you like. For example my dudes are in a swamp so I got the Stirland battlemire texture paint. And when the paint had dried I drybrushed a bit with lorien forest and added small pools of water around their feet using the 'ardcoat paints

>>50404030
You are correct, they along with Tomb Kings are out of production

>>50403622
Dubs never lie.

So I'm considering getting invested in this. Can anyone tell me bout the seraphon?

>>50404121
In gameplay or in lore? Or both?

>>50404121
One of the best summoning armies, since almost every model in the range can be summoned.

Their units are fairly tough, but mostly nothing special in combat, with the odd exception.

They all have the top bravery value, and they have loads of rules that make the enemies battleshock rolls hurt more. Basically, they make up for their mediocre combat performance, with the sheer amount of enemies that will run away from them in the battleshock phase.

I'm looking to start AoS since it seems to have a fairly healthy community in my area and am wondering whats a good sized force to start with?

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>>50404524
>whats a good sized force to start with?
This size.

>>50403622
Are you one of those blind, retarded, shakey hand fuckers or something? Because they shit looks horrible. Don't strip the models, just melt them down.

>>50403750
They both look horrible anon.
Anon nut up, go to wip thread, and get your ass reemed. It will hurt, but you will start to learn.

>>50404712
>>50404750
Silver Tower guy? Is that you?
Are you still salty?

>>50404712

I'm sorry for angering you miniature painting God, please forgive the shoddy work of a mere mortal, we are inferior beings who have to learn and don't have the innate skill of miniature painting unlike you my lord.

Please don't smite my family with your autism.

>>50404569
It's not even 500 points.

>>50403480
Will try to make the bodies look like flayed skin. The bark I'm not sure yet. Maybe dried bone.

Was thinking of going Outcast heavy, yeah. Also thought of maybe adding some death units, ghosts and such, to make a spooky forest army.

>>50404712
Well your just full of helpful critique and insight aren't you?

>>50404936
Exactly.

It's perfect for beginners, both to learn how to play and to be confident they can finish painting them.

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Which shield?

>>50405250
First one

>>50405250
Left one feels right, and looks like a cool moon

>>50405250
First. It can give mean uppercuts to those unworthy of death by the blade.

>>50405250
I'd say right, the mini overall would seem to work more on lengthwise lines than near-circle curves.

I have always disliked Sigmar lore as someone who loved the WHF setting but never actually played the game.

Just played my first game of Sigmar today and god damn it was so much FUN. I love these simple rules. The game doesn't feel like a fucking chore.

>>50406856
there are a lot of neat things about the AoS rules that I wasn't able to appreciate at first, like how quick and unambiguously cover works vs the clusterfuck 40k.

>>50406856
Welcome to the fold of us who gave this game an actual shot. Glad you enjoyed it.

So I gave Regiment of Renown a shot on Thursday and we liked it! Would recommend if you have 30-45 to play. Recommend lots of scenery.

>>50404774
The fuck you about nigga.

>>50404811
I'll think about it.
I have thought about it. They still getting SMITE BOITCH

>>50405250
fucking classic mini

>>50402290
This is rape.

>>50402771
>tfw Drycha won't do angry hate sex with you

what should I get after the start collecting box of sylvaneth? I am thinking about khurnot hunters

>>50402363
use the aos stuff the chainsword and auto pistol is worthless

>>50402003
So I haven't looked at AoS since it was released and made me sad.

Have they released actual rules for it yet or is it still just
>bring however models you want, no one cares!

>>50402159
it's the other way round at the moment.

The 40k Tzaangor models literally look like someones shitty AoS conversion.

There is nothing 40k about them apart from the weapons.

>>50407838
a) there were always actual rules for it, you ignorant fool

b) we assume you mean points, in which case they did. It's the general's handbook (GHB), and an excellent book. Cheap too. It's the book we recommend essentially to new players

>>50405250
the first one seems to fit more with the model

why would they replace fantasy with sigmar?!

>>50402215
No.

>>50407869
I'm pretty sure the line of thought at GW was they had the tzaagor sprites all lined up for AoS but someone said "you know it might not be good to completely abandon our brand new game for 6 months" so they had the sculptor slap together some chai swords and pistols for the tzaagors and called it a day

>>50407973
Fantasy was selling worse than fax machines

>>50403622

thin your fucking paints you trog

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yo guys !
i'm trying to create dark soul styled knights as count as for graveguards, but i don't know which model to use for the core body
the skellies are too small, i thought about elves and especially chaos warriors, who have the right armor and shields, but are too bulky

any ideas fellows ?

>>50408008
the sprues said the reverse anon
wh40k things come in a separate sprue

Can someone explain to me why GW essentially abandoned AoS for a long ass time?

>>50408396
Real space marines are more popular than fantasy space marines.

>>50408396
First half of the year was mostly AOS (and the 40k fans were complaining then just as AOS fans are now), second half has been mostly 40k. I'd prefer them to intermingle it a bit more, but I think both games have got a similar amount of stuff over the year.

>>50408452

I just don't get how you could make a game have it be more successful than what it replaced then essentially drop it out of the release schedule for so lone.

>>50408521
this

Q1 and Q2 of 2017 will probably me mostly AoS, with Q3 and Q4 more towards 40k

unless they change their strategy, which they very well might.

Rumor is GW didn't expect the GH to have as much impact as it did, so there is a possibility their release schedule wasn't ready for it.

>>50408575
GH?

>>50408603
Generals handbook

>>50408603
He means GHB, the general's handbook

>>50408714
>>50408603
>>50408670
>>50408680
I've seen it both ways (GH and GHB)

>>50408714
>>50408680
>>50408670


Oh, right. Pff, I should have known that.

So, are Lizardmen still a thing worth having? Haven't played since WHFB 7th.

>>50408521
bah, I wished they'd do bimonthly, one month is AoS releases, next month is 40k, etc. Maybe talk about 40k during AoS months and AoS on 40k months so the fans of either game have something to fap/bitch about.

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Painting a beastclaw avalanche box for a buddy. Getting a mammoth sprue, a hunter, four Sabres and three yeti for it. Pretty amateur but working on it. Pretty jealous as these beastclaw guys are pretty sweet.

>>50408905
Fuckin shit.
Inb4 Australia

>>50405250

>>50405260
>>50406324
>>50406351
>>50407940
None of these anons have your best interests at heart.

Listen to >>50406549 he knows what's up.

Looking at the generals handbook but I don't understand some shit.

Where are the warscrolls for Warden Kings and Unforged?

Where is the warhammer fantasy general?

>>50409596
Dead I guess

>>50409605
fug

>>50409596
moved to /vg/

>>50409785
Oooooooh. You a bad man.

Had my first game of Age of Sigmar yesterday with my Bretonnians: it was actually pretty fun, and I'll probably be playing more in the future.

The salt's finally starting to trickle away.

Questions, though; is there any reason not to equip a unit with all the different kinds of wargear available to them? For example, my Men at Arms can have a drummer, trumpeter, warden, relic bearer, and standard bearer. Can I just stick them all on the same unit without incurring any kind of penalty?

>>50409825
?

>>50409852
>Can I just stick them all on the same unit without incurring any kind of penalty?

Yes. It's put in as an option so that you can use old units already built without them, but there is no reason not to do it.

>>50404163

Both please.

>>50404173

Thank you.

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So, since I read about the Skarbrand/Wrath of Khorne tag-team list, I kinda want to build that, since it seems a very easy and small army.
The idea is to make the WoK general and keep using Lord of War and Lord of the Bloodhunt on Skarbrand to compensate for his reduced movement and poor hit rolls. Anything those two set their eye on will probably get deleted.
The Bloodletters can move up and mop up behind them, I guess.

>>50409345
On the GW site? Have you tried looking under dispossessed? Also Grand Alliance: Order

wtf sylvneth battletome sold out in gw site for the rest of the world delivery. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50409345
Either on the app you can download for all the rules free, or in the Grand Alliance Order book. One is free, one isn't.

can you use the Sylvaneth Heartwood Host's ability if the Treelord is a Treelord Ancient?

>>50411549
pretty sure its just Treelords as they're a specific name of a unit.

Does Fyreslayers seem... lackluster? It just feels kinda samey and repetitive, both in rules and models. At least skeletons are easy to do fast, instead of a bunch of half naked men with details.

>>50408775
Yes. "Seraphon" as they're now called are a strong army and one of the most varied around. They have a huge number of units compared to most factions. Also, fluff wise they are now literal Daemons, but of the heavens rather than Chaos.

>>50411333
Probably run out of hardbacks, so they are now going to release softback versions only.

That's what normally happens at least.

>>50407672
Do it. Make sure you build them taking into account how you want to use them.
Swords - all-out smacking, fuck survivability.
Scythes - melee combat with regard to survivability.
Bows - Artillery. Ballistae on legs. Add: cute quiver-beetles, if you care about having cute things.

>>50412446
Yeah, that's one of the main complaints about them.

Their fluff has the only unambiguously good stuff about them, and even then there isn't a lot. Personally, what I like most from their backstory is that they're mercenaries through and through, but they grab gold not because they're ultra-greedy, but for religious reasons. It's different, and slightly refreshing.

Anyway, considering that they were one of the first armies released for the game, it's understandable that they'd be a little unoptimised. That doesn't make it fine and dandy, of course, but at least the reason why they're mediocre isn't a mystery.

>>50408229
I don't know any company names off hand but maybe search for what some 3rd party miniature merchants offer

>>50407672
You probably want more Dryads so you can have a squad 30 strong. A second SC box is a good purchase.

are dark elves gud

Been having trouble getting my gutbuster army to perform. Any tips?

Thinking of jumping into AoS and getting the slaves of darkness boxset since i plan on going chaos.

Are the bloodbound better than the slaves of darkness? Dem chaos knights tho

>>50414572
They have been split up into smaller subfactions.
The darkling covens
The daughters of khaine
Order serpentis
Scourge privateers
and Shadowblades

Sound confusing? Well it really isn't. All factions will eventually get their spotlight and update battletome etc. But right now all the ones that used to be part of the dark elves are incomplete. So take that for what you will. Each of the listed factions have some cool stuff in them, but not enough to bring them in line with some of the newer stuff.

>>50414609
What are you running? What's in your list?

>>50414771
Slaves to darkness is nice if you want to be chaos but not committed to any particular god. You go khorne bloodbound if you want all khorne all the time. They have some cool stuff and they multiply their attacks like rabbits in the spring.

>>50414771
You can mix factions within the same alliance, so you can have both Slaves to Darkness and Khorne Bloodbound in the same army.

technically, nothing says you can't mixed factions outside of alliances, but that would be silly

Chaos overall is all about synergy. Both armies have ways of buffing each other, as well as buffing their own units.

STD tends to be more defensive while KBB is more about reckless offense.

Overall I think KBB is stronger on its own, but STD has some star units and shouldn't be overlooked.

>>50408229
mantics reverent look a bit like balder's knights with the exposed mid-drifts
you likely don't want them tough, weird size compared to AoS

>>50414783
I'm a little lacking in ironguts, only one unit. Usually I fill out the War scroll battalion
Tyrant
Butcher
Ogres
Ogres
Ogres
Leadbelcher
Ironguts
If I have the points I usually increase unit size and or add another butcher and or gorgers.
I know the grots are good but it seems like point for point they do the most in the game.
Part of the problem is my FLGS usually has huge three way battles that the game isn't meant for and I suffer for my lack of flexibility

>>50414866
Get more leadbelchers and ironguts. Leadbelchers are battleline when you stick with the gutbuster keyword.

But your list should do pretty good. I would run all those ogors as a single huge unit, then bully them in the first round and never have to worry about battleshock again. But that sucks you guys are only ever 3-way battles. I can't think of a reason why they would suck in that format but It may be a major contributing factor. Ogors are a good army because their basic attacks are damage 2+ most of the time, and they have some battleshock manipulation which makes the attacks more potent. Try running the formation also, it helps them get closer to the enemy.

>>50415030
I actually have a lot of leadbelchers, I can field up to three units of them or a large unit of nine. Their d3 ranged attacks just seems very underwhelming, though they are ok in melee. They only seem to be worth it if they aren't moving but they simply need to be mobile most of the time. Maneaters seem to be a better unit to get some range. The ogres I sometimes boost to units of six and yea they tear apart other infantry units but I'm usually investing a lot more in my one unit. Units of 12 are attractive for the bonus on impact hits but that is a huge point investment and I feel like it would be focused heavily

What's your favorite unit and army from each major allegiance?

>>50415676

Steam dwarf mech suit, steam dwarfs, order.

>>50414783
So I can mix and match with units from those separate factions? I know pretty much next to nothing about AoS but I know a little about WHFB, Ive just thought the models were cool but figured I might as well try the game out if Im going to waste this much money on the models.

>>50415732
You can mix and match any factions you like.

Most people stay within the same Grand Alliance of factions, but nothing says you have to.

In Pitched Battles (points) sticking to a single faction allows more types of units to be considered Battleline troops, but you aren't prevented from using multiple factions (you will just need additional footsoldiers)

>>50415732
>So I can mix and match with units from those separate factions?
Yes. As of right now, you can mix and match just fine without any penalties or bad tradeoffs. Just build whatever you want, as long as you keep within a single grand alliance, and take its allegiance abilities. However, some of those listed factions have units that become batteline when your entire army is that faction only. So there is some tradeoff. This game is all about synergy.

And getting into a faction just because you like the look of the models is TOTALLY a worthwhile reason to get into that army. 90% of your time you will spend on this game is the hobby, the other 10% is playing your army. You have to be attracted and excited about building collecting and painting your army. Are the dark elf factions competitive? Probably not. Do they look cool or will they be fun to work on? That's entirely up to you.

>>50402003
>khorne, crazed madmen obsessed with blood and skulls
>orks, crazed beasts obsessed with warfare

not a single drop of blood to be seen on this entire image

All the new AoS art is like this and I really don't understand it.

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>>50415908

>>50415955
Good find, I was actually beginning to think it was a new AoS art policy to have no blood

>>50415787
>>50415799
Do I need to bother with the AoS lore to enjoy myself? nice dubs by the way.

>>50416134
Lore is optional of course, but it does make things more interesting. There isnt much lore right now for the dark elf factions, so you have a lot of wiggle room. Just pick a realm and make up the story of your dudes. Chances are what you come up with can fit somewhere in the setting. Just know the mortal realms were under chaos tyrannical rule for a thousand years, so you might want to fit that in there somewhere. The story is right now Sigmar unleashed his ultimate weapon, the stormcast eternals, to beat chaos back from the realms, and regain alliances with the old factions and gods to help him in this battle. Are you all for that? Or are you embittered by his abandonment of the super friends? Or is it just business as usual?

>>50416134
AoS lore is for the most part deliberately vague/open in order to make room for people's own armies/"your dudes". So as long as you understand what every force actually "is", it should be fine.

>>50416221
>>50416198
Interesting. Thanks Lads!

How are Orks in AoS?

>>50415676
Order: Drycha Hamadreth (for ripping the enemy apart & scaring the shit out of everyone she fights), Darkling Covens (they're a damn cult! In the designated "good guy" faction! That's going to lead to drama.)
Chaos: Skullreapers (huge men with huge weapons. Not terribly good taste, I know,but there it is), Slaves to Darkness (they seem the most straightforward of the lot, without being retardedly bloodthirsty like the Bloodbound or Warherds).
Death: Skeleton Warriors (nice, solid workhorse battleline unit), Deathrattle (seem to be the most organised subfaction of Death. I prefer those who have got their shit together over scattered mini-warbands and kludged-together alliances).
Destruction: Brutes (see Skullreapers, except they're huger), Spiderfang (I like the idea of an all-mounted army, and these guys are a good way of doing that. Plus their tribal aesthetic is nice.)

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Wrath of Khorne or Insensate Rage? I dunno which I like better. Insensate Rage has the Hueg Axe, and Wrath has all those cool abilities.

Merely going by the models on GW's site, I like Unfettered Fury best, but mostly for the paint scheme and skull head, but I know it'll trigger my autism if I ran that one as a Wrath of Khorne.

>>50408775
lizardmen are top tier and one of the most fun armies to play because you can reroll everything (including your opponents dice!)

>>50412676
I like how there are hints to the ur-gold driving them insane over time, and the very subtle implication that it's because the chaos dwarves infiltrated the fyreslayer priesthood a long time ago

>>50416380
breddy gud/10
Somehow they manage to have one of the best ranged units in the game

>>50415676
Order: Seraphon

Destruction: Beastclaw

Death: Tomb Kings

Chaos: literally who

>>50415787
In a pitched battle you MUST stay within the same grand alliance.

>>50416447
>very subtle implication
Oh come off it. There is absolutely no implication at all. All it is is a mention of the word zharr in their terminology, which is merely dwarf for fire, and one of the characters has their mustache shaved off like a chaos dwarf. That's it. The creators have said that that is merely a nod to chaos dwarfs of old, but not a connection. You idiots get all conspiracy theorist like it's Hydra infiltrating Shield or some shit.

>>50412492
yeah and I want it hardback not shitty softcover god damn it GW

Is the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition worth looking into, and can you play it without the cards? from what I know, it is sort of like the Fantasy Flight Star Wars. No response from WHFB General.

>>50416380
Ironjawz(Black Orcs) are fine. Bonesplittaz(Savage Orcs) are very good.

>>50413409
>>50414838
damned ! well thanks for the answer anon.
i'm not more advanced though

>>50416407
Wrath of Khorne is way better (and so is the Unfettered Fury). The fat axe on the Insensate Rage seems good, until you realize you get only four swings with mediocre chance to hit and even then you could just roll low on the damage.
The Wrath of Khorne actually does more damage in melee on average while also having brutal shooting and some nice utility.

The Unfettered Fury has the exact same melee profile and its lash does exactly the same average damage the Bloodflail has. If you like it best, it's entirely reasonable to field it, as you basically trade in the unbind, the breath weapon and the anti-hero skill for a debuff aura and the ability to fuck with positioning.

Is there any timeline on when the Elves are going to make a comeback?

>>50417823
No.
Hopefully never.

>>50417957
Wash your mouth out with soap.

>>50415732
no these fucking idiots replying to you are wrong. it says in the GHB that in matched play (only gamemode people play) that you cannot mix GRAND ALLIANCES

>>50414822
Slave to Darkness is also a unique subfaction in that the mark system mean that you can use them with the other mortal chaos subfaction without breaking allegiance.

So basically until you take the mark of khorne StD and KBB are the same subfaction.

>>50418491
>>>50414822
>Slave to Darkness is also a unique subfaction in that the mark system mean that you can use them with the other mortal chaos subfaction without breaking allegiance.
>So basically until you take the mark of khorne StD and KBB are the same subfaction.
Except KDD have the Bloodbound keyword but not the Slaves to Darkness keyword. So aren't the same subfaction at all.

>>50418589

Yeah, but all allegiance abilities don't work on the BLOODBOUND keyword, they work on the MORTAL KHORNE keyword.

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Hey Age of Sigmar General, after seeing Stormcast Eternals and noting them as being pretty close even in terms of appearance to marines. How would you redesign their appearance? Would you? Perhaps a less bulky unmounted knight of bretonnia look? Or something to a White knight equivalent of Warriors of Chaos? What's peoples thoughts.

>>50419656
I would have made the brets the storm cast eternals

Is Age of Sigmar actually fun?]

Is it better in small skirmishes or big battles? How well balanced is it? How does it work with no army lists?

>>50419656
>Hey guys, ever noticed how stormcast look like space marines?
Every fucking thread...

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>>50419702
Well, they do? At least i'm asking a question about them as a faction on an aesthetic point. Do you like how they look? Don't like how they look? Weigh in on the subject rather than turn whiny, or just ignore it.

>>50419699
Yes, it's fun, but that's subjective. I enjoy it more than WHFB or 40k, for what it's worth.
It's best at mid-sized battles. The rules don't really work below ~500 points, and above 3k it becomes a huge slog.
It's pretty balanced overall. Outliers exist, but for the most part things are fairly even Probably the biggest detriment to balance right now is the new format for Battletomes (which introduced relics, command traits, new magic and such) which older armies don't have, but even that is minor.
>no army lists
http://www.scrollbuilder.com/
Ever since the GHB was released this summer everything has point values and such. Army building is a-go.

>>50417823
We have no idea yet, but don't worry. They definitely set up a story seed with them that I don't see them abandoning.

>>50418162
Nice reading comprehension, moron.

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>>50419730
It just gets very repetetive answering the question all the damn time. Yes, they look somewhat like space marines. Yes, some people would prefer them to look like the Blanche concept art, but others like them as they are because of the clean lines and simple design.
This is the same song and dance we've had a hundred times before, so you'll hopefully excuse me from being salty.

>>50417985
The only thing elves were ever good for was as cannon fodder to protect the forests. The few especially useful elves are Sylvaneth now.

Either sit in the gravel and brick with the rest of your dirty race, or return to the forest. But don't get mad just because you're put in your place. You earned that place. It's all yours.

>>50419699
Yes.
It scales up as well as down. Others note it gets sluggish when you get really high in points, but I think it handles it better than 40k at least. I don't mind playing large point games. Scaling down is fine too. 500pts is a great quick skirmish especially for teaching someone how to play. A lot of the start collecting boxes will get you at least that for starting. Anything below that and you want to look into regiments of renown, which is their kill-team equivalent game.
The no points (or open play) is not for everyone. Some swear by it, other say it's what gives this game a bad name. All in all no matter what game type you play, you should be playing with scenarios.

>>50419730
We've had this fucking discussion a billion times and the only consensus we found was that, yeah, the masks look kinda lame, and even that hardly unanimous.

>>50419863
Nice opinions there. Too bad they're dumb and don't mean anything.

Building a Flesh-Eater Courts army and I'd like some advice/critique on my list. It's based around the Charnel Pit Carrion formation.

Abhorrant Ghoul King on Terrorgheist
Abhorrant Ghoul King on Foot
3 x 30 Crypt Ghouls
3 Crypt Horrors.

It comes to 1540pts, so I have a little wiggle room to add some more stuff. Where am I weak? Is there something I really need to take?

Thanks in advance.

>>50419950
its dogshit at 500 points. literally zero tactics or positioning just pure RNG

>>50420011
what point value is worth doing then? is there a standard tournament value?

>>50420036
Standard tournament seems to be between 1500 to 2000

>>50419959
>I have a little wiggle room
To what? 2k?
Anyway, when in doubt, load up on courtiers. You'll want to make use of their replenishment abilities.
Another unit of horrors wouldn't be amiss, either.

Also, who will be general and which relics and command trait will your guys use?

>>50420011
I can see that for some factions, ones where it's all big expensive models, like any of the ogors, but for factions with a balance of cheap and expensive units, especially cheap heroes, it can be quite fun. Larger games definitely encourage the bigger baddies, but the small 500 point game gives you excuses to use that cheap version of hero you wouldnt usually dare to bring in bigger games because of how little impact they bring. Also you should be playing with battleplans, even the ones from the big books work for it, you don't necessarily need to stick with the GHB ones.

Again, it's not replacing 2000pt games, but it is a quick skirmish and a good way to introduce new players.

>>50419656
I wouldnt redesign them at all, I would just release more chambers that vary the appearance. Dracoth Riders and Stardrakes are still sigmarines but visually have very little in common with space marines aesthetically.

I want a huge Stormcast Angelic chamber, a bunch of Stormcast Wizards and magic knights, more ranged options, and maybe even some kind of artillery choice (Lightning Cannon?)

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Tell me (us) about your dudes in AoS /tg/

>>50420103
Yeah, to 2000.

General will be the Ghoul King on foot, so he can buff the Terrorgheist. The Ghoul King on Terrorgheist will have the Ring of Immortality and the one on foot will have the Tomb Blade along with the Ruler of the Night command trait.

I'm thinking a Varghulf Courtier and two Crypt Ghast Courtiers, one as a distraction carnifex and the others to replenish my Crypt Ghouls.

I can fit in two more units of Crypt Horrors to bring me to an even 2000, but is there a better choice for those points, like more Courtiers?

So I'm thinking about getting into AoS and watched a battle recap on youtube, it was from a year ago so this might end up being rubbish. Basically first turn this Khorne guy got decimated by high elf shooting and decided to declare a sudden death rule where he only then had to survive the rest of the game, proceeding to run away a high wound mini of his own to a corner to hide. Khorne guy ended up winning because of this sudden death rule change, and it seemed pretty dumb to me.

Did they play the rule right? Or was it just a bit of a freak occurrence and nothing to overreact to?

>>50420610
I'd honestly stick with that. at a glance it seems like a good list.
I'm not entirely sold on the Varghulf, given that you have a GK on terrorgheist doing pretty much the same, but I like the model, so there's that.

>>50420696
Nobody uses the sudden death rule. It's garbage and usually the first thing that's houseruled.

>>50420696
if it was a year ago, that was before the release of the General's Handbook which changed the game a lot.

Also it sounds like they weren't playing with objectives.

>>50420696
That sounds dumb. Nobody uses sudden death because the scenarios and battleplans have their own victory conditions. If you want to see good batreps, check out miniwargaming or guerilla miniature games youtube channels.

>>50419656
>How would you redesign their appearance?
abandon the extreme bulkyness for the average joe in favor of more normal proportions; use capes if you want to look bulky
draw more from historically proven armour designs: more vertically developed pauldrons instead of the ones now present; either chestpieces fused with the belly plate in one piece or interlocking UNDER it, not over (seriously who was that?)
less "hard" details like boxy reliquaries and angles-based decorations; more feathers/plumes, vests, pelts, cloth balancing the rigidness of the plates; have curves-based decorations, cilinders in the forms of candles; serpentines depictions of the sunrays, comets tails, flames and draconic heads are way cooler than just stylised lighting
VARIETY: throw away limits like all sogmarines having to wear sigmar's face the same way or standardised chapters' insignia; have space for more individual or squads-wise personal touches to their armour and colours, have more designs of pauldrons, gauntlets, weapons, boots, chestpieces and, more than anything, helmets (if the traditional knight/crusader design has proved successful the most in one area it's the featurelessness of the helmets)
to stick with the fluff theme already established that each sigmarine bears the features of their god-king to strike fear and uniformity of purpose in the enemy keep on having angry faces presented on the models, but vary in placement, not only on their faces (removing the possibility completely is counterproductive), but also have the mandatory angry face on a shield, a pauldron, the head of a weapon, the chestpiece etc.
make canon possible disfigurements and magical side effects to their bodies post reforging.

>>50419656
I'd make the hammers less chunky and more similar to real warhammers

Make it so they can wear whatever helmet they want.

Also have some female stormcast to further differentiate them from the all-male marines. In the lore, Sigmar snatched away the mightiest warriors, surely some of them were female?

>>50420757
>>50420776
>>50420790
Alright fair enough, I'll check for some more recent videos. Figured it was a dumb rule.

>check out miniwargaming

Actually was a miniwargaming video, but like I said, from a year ago.

>>50418491
an interesting thing about Slaves to Darkness is that the marks are chosen on deployment rather than during list building, designing a list to take advantage of this seems difficult.

>>50420945
Some of them *are* canonically female, they just all look like that. I'm usually in favor of boob-plate and combat heels, but here it is fine, I feel.

>>50421067
I'm waiting for a 3rd party bits maker to do booblate stormcast eternal chests.

Think of it, there's really only 2 different types. The smaller one is used by liberators, prosecutors, etc, and the bigger ones used by the paladins, knight-vexillor and all that.

They would get my money.

>>50421067
I'm no fan of boob plate either, but the proportions of stormcasst armor is very masculine, rather than gender neutral. Where are the examples in lore of female stormcast?

Perhaps during the reforging sigmar gave them all male bodies?

>>50421133
All we have is from the white dwarf, it mentions a city that was taken up by sigmar right before a chaos raid, every man woman and child

There's something liberating about just taking whatever models you want. Fuck battleline and stuff, I'll use your points but I want to play my cool models.

>>50421323
gud4u

>>50421323
This is what I like about AoS. Want to use zombies, giants and elves? Fine no one is stopping you

>tfw i want to get into aos but don't know where to begin

>>50421394
>Fine no one is stopping you
Except people playing with matched play rules, at wich point playing "unbound" is a matter of players agreement no different than playing an atypical scenario or with homebrewed rules with any other system.

>>50421403
>Pick a faction (optional)
>Or pick models you fidn are cool
>Do they have a start collecting?
>If so, then get it.
>Maybe get a cool hero for your dudes
>Build 'n' paint
>Play
>Make up cool stories about your dudes

>>50421403
the starter box isn't a bad place to begin if you have any interest in either of the factions.

It comes with a 90 page book that gives an overview of the setting

>>50421464
You can play unbound however you like in matched play. The only drawback is that you do not the get grand alliance bonus

>>50421464
>fun haters hating fun

>>50421486
And that you can't mix Grand Alliances.

>>50421624
Where does it say that? I must have missed it, what page in the GHB?

>>50421624
Yeah, naw, you're a cunt. Got the page open to picking an army in pitched battles and it don't say shit about having to be the same alliegence.

>>50421689
Page 106, left column, the paragraph right above PICKING YOUR ARMY

>>50421873
And it reads:
>Each player must then pick the units they will use for their army as described next. All of the units in a Pitched Battle army must belong to the same Grand Alliance (Order, Chaos, Destruction or Death).

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>>50421648
>>50421689
Fuck you for making me even doubt myself.

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>>50421973
You're welcome Anon

>>50422026
>ha! I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>50417762
That is true.

I think that Wrath of Khorne seems best, just by how much damage he can do.

I'll get one, assemble it, and see if my autism allows me to use the Unfettered Fury's skull head.

>>50419798
With that website, would it mean that I wouldn't need the General's Handbook to play?

>>50422529
GHB is in the OP, you know?
The warscroll builder covers the points well, bu you'd still want the book, probably, as it contains allegiance boni, relics and command traits.

>>50422529
The ghb is also a great resource for playing different games, and it includes all the pitched battle scenarios and allegiance abilities and rules changes from the core rules.

are there any models with points costs that aren't multiples of 20?

What if GW divided all points costs by 20? would people complain?

>>50423201
I dont think so for friendly games. Just discuss it with your opponent.

>>50423223
it doesn't really matter if you play 100 points with 3 points for a cheap battleline, or 2000 points with 60 for a cheap battleline, it is the same size army either way

I am just wondering why GW chose larger numbers. Perhaps for familiarity? 40k is often played between 1500-2000 and I think WFB was too, so having similar ranges for Age of Sigmar makes the mental transition easier, but there otherwise isn't a reason for it (unlike 40k where there are a lot of small upgrades and granularity in their point system).

To be honest I actually prefer the less-granular AoS style of points versus 40k. You don't have to worry about little upgrades or fully optimizing this or that. It is a real breath of fresh air. Feeling like I can't afford to take the units I want because this one sergeant model has a plasma pistol really sucks.

>>50423356
Familiarity and granularity. The points are similar to WHFB and 40k which makes it easier to understand.

The first edition of GHB points were taken from the SCGT and multiplied by 20 across the board so everything is a multiple of 20, but it opens up the door to make things cost multiples of 5/10/15 in the future if they need to do that for the sake of balance.

>>50423201
I wondered the same.
No clue.

>>50423356
>one sergeant model has a plasma pistol really sucks

This. If there is a thing I hate in 40k is having lots of options for sergeant and shit but being always forced to take nothing because fuck paying t40 points for a plasma pistol and a power fist.

>>50422902
>>50423084
Ah true enough. My problem is that Mega says it's too large to open on mobile, unfortunately.

>>50423554
why give the option to personalize then punish it with crazy points costs? powerfists in particular are extra bad due to 6e/7e challenge rules

I wish I'd opened my eyes to Age of Sigmar sooner. I am enjoying the game as well as the hobby for once.

Won a game with my beastmen for the first time in what feels like forever

>Feels good man

>>50423767
Noice.

What does a good Brayherd army look like? I have some old Bestigors and Gors from 8th ed, and I was thinking of throwing in some Tzaangors and a Bloodthirster.

>>50423904
I run my brayherd army with at least 2 units of 20 gors, some bestigors to focus on the more heavy/elite units, ungor raiders to provide some ranged, and a beastlord and a bray shaman. In alrger games I often use my gargant and/or cygor along with a few nurglings and spawns I own

>>50423989
I also own some bullgors that I use when I want something that can pack a punch

>>50422529
I am the biggest slut for the Wrath, but the Unfettered is easily justified as well, especially once you look at the price.
Wrath of Khorne's biggest selling point over the Unfettered Fury is the mortal wound breath, but you're paying 60 pts for that, a situational reroll and one unbind that is nice to have, but won't really save your ass.

>>50424087
True.

Though I also plan on using him in 40k, and the lash giving him an extra attack, as well as him being a FMC allows him to use both the lash and his breath in the shooting phase.

New player here, am I meant to be painting the plague furnace while I'm building it?

Anyone watch the tournament over on warhammer tv? That chaos list was brutal.

>>50424592
Some like to do subassemblies. Meaning they leave parts separate to make painting easier, but that usually comes with experience. But rarely do you paint a kit completely unassembled, especially something so big

>>50424629
I haven't been following, what was it?

>>50424634

Its just that I'm starting to build it and already it seems complicated as fuck to paint.

>>50424671
Big things generally are not complicated so much ass they are intricate and involved. It will take a while to paint up that's for sure

>>50424671
Paint all the wood parts with mourning brown, wash agrax earthshade, layer with a lighter brown and hilite even lighter

Paint all the metal parts with leadbelcher, wash with nuln oil, and hilite with a lighter silver

That's 90% of your model right there. But you might want to save painting that for last so you get some practice painting. Shitty painting really shows on big models rather then small plague monks

does it mean that factions with battletomes out will not get any new models for a loooong time?

>>50424916
Probably. GW wants to make the rounds to all the existing factions for now

>>50424916
>>50424959
What do you mean? They could releases a new Battletome with new models for say Moonclan grots or DE Corsairs at any point. You could also see a Bonesplittaz style release where it's just a Battletome to update the rules for old models. I don't see why GW would restrict itself to only the factions that have a tome so far. Particularly since many of those Battletomes aren't fully GHB style with Allegiances and all that.

The factions that are alcually dead meat are the ones like Brets and TKs that were discontinued outright. Everyone else could potentially have something new coming soon.

>>50424916
they might get new models, an not new warscrolls

Stormcast eternal have got a few new models here and there throughout the year, usually hero models that they already have warscrolls for.

>>50423444
SCGT?

>>50425106
South coast grand tournament, the first big age of sigmar tournament in the uk

>>50425091
What we mean is the next battletome and new model updates we will be getting will likely be of existing factions that haven't gotten them yet.

>>50425137
Fair enough. However, they've already shown that they'll spin old models into new factions that feel very different from their old world versions. So I'd expect to see some of those from time to time.

>>50425210
I don't think you get what I'm saying. The next battletome and models we will likely get are for factions which haven't gotten them yet, such as corsairs, moonclan grots, or dispossessed.

Guys, is the new Blood Bowl good/fun?

I'm thinking about taking it for Christmas, but I'm not sure

>>50425363
from what I heard it is pretty much just bloodbowl, but you might ask the bloodbowl general

one thing of note: the models are push fit with slotted bases so as long as you've got some clippers you can get playing straight away. This is really important if you are playing with non-hobbyists.

>>50425363
It's the same as the old blood bowl, with a few minor tweaks. But I've been hearing nothing but praise for those who got to early playtesy

>>50425412
I asked, but i seems dead, for now at least, thanks anyways

>>50425436
Cool, I haven't played the old one, but seems fun

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>>50420491
A nasty Moonclan Warboss by the name of Gobsnik and his lads are try to become THE grot warboss and tribe. They hail from the shadowed realm of Ulgu. Currently Gobsnik seeks out a rival because all the good bosses have a nemesis.

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>>50420491
Working on a sylvaneth/woodelf army, warriors of the autumn copses. An ancient forest that grew around a area of constant ritualistic combat for the local tribes in the realm of beasts.The Autumn copses' trees slowly drew the blood of the fallen heroes from the ground. their leaves taken the crimson hues. With the invasions of chaos the memories and spirits of those heroes reawakened. bursting from the Trees to rejoin battle.

>>50425510
>he ends up conquering vast swathes of land with dozens of subservient tribes and even captures a realmgate
>never finds his true nemesis

>>50425743
That's pretty good. Both the lore and the paint.

>>50425266
Ah right. Yeah, my bad I misunderstood. They'll prioritize building out new factions rather than revisiting. That said, unless your army has mechanics that heavily favor mono-allegiance there should always be new potential allies for your army coming out.

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>>50425752
>all good bosses have rivals
>no rival
>tfw never a good boss

>>50425986
Thanks anon, I got pot of blood for the blood God for the first time and man that shit is fun too just throw everywhere. So blood theme it was.

>>50426547
Nice

>>50418616
That's not surprising given the "Bloodbound" keyword doesn't fucking exist

>>50421133
The fact they all look the same is intentional. The uniformity supposedly unnerves chaosfags since they're used to everyone and everything having a different weird mutation

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Working on an ice wind assault box for a buddy. Got tired of factory style painting on the mammoths and mournfang and decided to do some work on the Sabres

>>50427763
That line is much less pronounced where the pieces fit in real life

>>50427763
What did you do for the base?

>>50428020
Just sand, I'm going to do it Russ grey then dry brush white

>>50428133
Scale model sand, or straight-from-the-beach sand?
Sorry if I seem pressing, I just haven't done basing for my models and the one in your picture seems like it might be good for what I'm going for.

>>50428183
different anon, but it looks like some really rough utility sand, like the kind you get at the hardware store at 5 bucks for a 25 pound bag.

If you compare the size of the grains to the model, it looks like they are walking on really coarse gravel, and not sand or dirt.

>>50428304
Thanks. I thought the sand grains looked a bit big. I'll have to get some.

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>>50428183
I have used citadel sand before, it is finer than this. This is just some cheap model sand. I use elmers glue to attatch it. Going over it once dry with some more watered down glue helps keep it in place. Super easy. Pic related is one of the mammoth bases

Is Malal a thing in AoS?

>>50428622
Nope. No mention of him so far. He was barely a thing in fantasy so I'm really not surprised, and frankly nothing is missed.

>>50428384
IMO citadel sand looks very good unpainted. Stuff with less surface area is going to need some pigment added

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Really liking how my tiger stripes are coming out. These guys are cheap and kind of chaffey. Are they good for anything besides capping objectives?

Holy shit the fat fuck and his nasal problems from mini wargaming is annoying to watch. Why THE fuck arr they the first thing that pops up for AoS battle reports?

>>50430041
Not gonna lie, they look cool, but they look more like Zebra stripes than anything, though that's possibly due to their own fur's color than anything.

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Malekith the Eternity King When?

>>50430206
When the aelves and slaanesh story arc finally comes around. And he's been renamed to Malerion now

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>>50430220
>he's been renamed to Malerion

God help me he better not be cucked. I want the king of the elves back and stronger than ever at the head of the best the elves have to offer ready to crush the rest of the pathetic races into the dust where they belong.

>>50430172
Yea when I do mine they will be lion colored.

>>50430172
I was thinking of trying a leopard style on the last one

>>50430324
He found slaneesh and nearly destroyed the mortal realms to tie him/her/it up and steal back elf souls from the old world

We haven't seen much of Malerion but so far he is straight up OG

So I'm kinda toeing the line about getting into the game.

Only thing holding me back is that it seems clan Skyre hasn't gotten much love since AoS dropped. Any chance of new stuff (even if it's plastic models of old shit) in the future? Or are they backing Pestilens as the primary Skaven clan?

I normally don't have a problem with old models, but fuck Finecast and fuck paying $10 per Skyre Acolyte.

>>50430473
You can make an entire list Ft. Only clan Skryre stuff, and there is a battalion featured in the Chaos Grand Alliance book that is amazing.

>>50430496
Yeah, I noticed the battalion and claiming Clan Skyre for allegiance lets you take Stormfiends and Acolytes as battleline, while giving up the Allegiance abilities of Chaos seems not worth it, since you could take 2 clanrats for 70pts and just claim Chaos Allegiance.

But shit like $50 for a min unit of Acolytes, $50 for Jezzails, and most of the models for Skyre being metal or Finecast cranks up the price to not-worth-it levels.

My meta also plays at 1000pts, and the Battalion seems like it would blow right past that.

>>50430473
There was heavy mention of skryre in one of the big campaign books. But so far pestilens is the only one to get a battletome treatment. This does NOT mean, however, that pestilens is the lead-clan or anything like that. So yes we will be getting an update to skryre in the future, but it may just be a release like pestilens got with no new models, just new lore and battalions.

The trend generally is doing multiple smaller factions instead of few large factions.

>>50430563
It does, I wouldn't recommend the battalion at 1000.

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Skaven 1000 points

Skaven Walord -100
Warlock Engineer -100
Clanrats x 40 -240
Clanrats x 40 -240
Warpfire Thrower -60
Warpfire Thrower -60
Poison Wind Thrower -60
Poison Wind Thrower -60
Ratling Gun Engine Team -80

Take the Lord of War trait to boost my hordes or ratling gun when I need it, and Crown of Chaos to keep my rats from fleeing en mass. Should be able to tarpit nd spear down anythong I need to while my mortal wound engines get in optimal range.

GW stills Blizzard ideas.

> First Horde
> goblins, trolls, orcs, ogres.
> Grand Alliance Destruction
> goblins, trolls, orcs, ogres

What do you think about that?

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>>50430903

>>50430563
You still get Chaos allegiance boni even if you take a subfaction allegiance, it was mentioned on the the AoS facebook when the GHB was released.
Mind you, Unpredictable Destruction is kinda shit, but Lord of War makes up for that.

>>50430851
>Crown of Command
>Lord of War
It's kinda interesting that literally every chaos list seems to use these over all the other stuff. Are they that much better than the rest?
Actually, which are the best traits and relics for each Grand Alliances in you guys' opinion?

I wouldn't mind if chaos mortals had more ranged options

https://trackofwords.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/black-library-live-coming-soon-age-of-sigmar/#_=_

New book that explores the culture of the stormcast

Also female stormcast. Gender is really unimportant.

>>50431303
>“The Eight Lamentations is a sort of Mission Impossible meets the Dirty Dozen adventure story, involving Grungni gathering a group of mortal agents from throughout the realms to seek out and claim the titular weapons – eight weapons, forged by Khorne’s smiths, in the Age of Chaos. But Grungni isn’t the only one looking for them – Neferata is also on the hunt, as are the skaven and the Khornate weaponsmiths who first forged the weapons. There are characters from the width and breadth of the realms, and we’ll get a street-level view of one of the new cities Sigmar has founded in the mortal realms, as well as visiting some places I’ve covered in other works, like Shu’gohl, the Crawling City from Skaven Pestilens. This book will start to bring together a bunch of stuff I seeded into my other AOS work, including characters, events and places.

>The protagonists include a Gunmaster of the Ironweld, a Blood Knight (who’s introduced in Nagash: The Undying King), a mercenary from Chamon, a warrior-librarian from Ghur, and a Fyreslayer doomseeker, among others. We’ll see how they view the mortal realms, Sigmar, the Stormcasts, and Chaos, as well as how the mortal realms have developed in the wake of the realmgate wars.”

>>50430324
Can you just imagine how fucking great his model is going to be. Elf fused dragon. Gets me to drippin'.

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Also, Iron Jaws it's remake of Iron Horde. Look at this pics. Do you see difference? I'm not.

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>>50424647
The chaos list was fateweaver, 6 storm fiends with flamethrowers, GUO, 3 units of 10 pbs, and the foreword nurgle sorc. The sorc's spell is an 18 in fly move. Dirty on those mortal wound causing monster rats.

It lost on the final table to a triple thundertusk/ 1 stonehorn, 3 unit of 20 night goblins w/ hidden fanatics list. It was pure filth as well.

>>50431374
here is your (You)

now please stop posting this every day

>>50431473
He's right, tho.

>>50431303
>Josh: “Hallowed Knights: Plague Garden takes place after the Season of War campaign and the All-Gates game book. It follows Gardus and the Steel Souls warrior chamber as they invade the realm of Nurgle in order to rescue Lord-Castellant Grymn from the Plague God and his followers. Tornus the Redeemed (formerly Torglug the Despised) is a major character, as is Gutrot Spume. And while it follows the Steel Souls, it’s very much a Hallowed Knights book – it’ll explore some of the Stormhost’s culture, their way of honouring the dead, of keeping their memories of mortal life intact, etc. It’s also a book about redemption and faith, and how those things aren’t necessarily seen in the same way by all of the Hallowed Knights. The Stormhost is made up of the Faithful – but that can mean a lot of different things. Also – female Stormcasts. Far as I know, this’ll be the first book to mention them.”
Alright, this might well be the first AoS novel I am actually interested in. Delving more into the culture of the stormhosts is something that was really missing from the battletomes.

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>>50431473

I post this first time. Also look at colors of Stormcast.

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>>50431546
And look at Alliance colors.

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>>50431546
sorry then. Please "observe" this thing that happened six months ago like every day

Everything but the Ironjawz existed before Age of Sigmar and was carried over. Even them, the Black Orcs (now called 'Ard Boyz) existed prior, but I will confess that they were likely "inspired" in their depiction of the new Ironjawz models.

And what does the stormcast color scheme have to do with it? It is literally an inversion of the Ultramarines colors.

>>50431546
fuck off slav.

(continued)
Also the similarities between the Ironjawz and the Iron Horde end at the visual level. The Ironjawz are hyperdestructive beasts and the other forces of destruction were previously established from long before Warcraft 1 (they might have had different names back then, but they have existed since the 80s).

Stormcast are nothing like any Warcraft faction in appearance or lore, except perhaps for their love of enormous pauldrons. Mixing blue and gold is something GW's been doing for over a decade, and not exactly uncommon before that.

>>50431576
Okay, but what will you say about this?>>50430903

>>50431662
GW Orcs (greenskins), Savage Orcs (bonesplittas), Goblins (grots), ogres, and giants (gargants) have all existed for a long long time. Only the Ironjawz are new.

I think they might have discontinued some early this year, but the goblins for a while had the oldest models still for sale, their wolves, having been originally released in plastic in 1990.

Guys, please ignore the bait posts above of comparing AoS to warcraft. We all know why he's doing it, and he doesn't need the validation. Even replying to attempt to refute any of his claims is adding fuel to his bag of shit on fire. Trying to step on it is only going to cover your feet, and this thread, in shit.

>>50431329
HOLY SHIT this sounds incredible! I must read this book!

>>50431708
Orcs and ogres had never been in the same faction.

>>50431329
>Nagash: The Undying King

Anyone got this event exclusive novel?

>>50431811
Is it not included in the megas?

>>50431940
It is? Somebody scanned it?

>>50431995
theyre not scan so much as they are just the epubs. Check out the megas, a lot of the bl novels are up there, see if its in

>>50432005
It's an event exclusive. Only hardbacks were sold in the event.

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>>50430903
>GW stills Blizzard ideas. > First Horde > goblins, trolls, orcs, ogres. > Grand Alliance Destruction > goblins, trolls, orcs, ogres What do you think about that?

checks G@ publication dates... yep 1983. Turns out Blizz strait ripped off GW for all of its source material.

Get it strait kid.

>>50432193
Dude, don't encourage him and give him (You)s. He doesnt give a shit about any answers or explanations, hes just trolling us. And it's working.

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>>50432230
>Dude, don't encourage him and give him (You)s. He doesnt give a shit about any answers or explanations, hes just trolling us. And it's working

you're right, of course. So back on topic then: when we getting some hot elf action?

Pic related

>>50432349
After the Duadrin, seeing the hints.

>>50432349
Im still waiting for a beastmen update
;_; Brayherds are low tier at the moment

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>>50432193
>>50432349
Worst part of AoS is now there's no longer any reason for all DE Sorcerers to be female.

>>50431535
>female Stormcasts
I hope it's not just "they are men now lol", that would just be the lazy way out

>>50431535
>>50432498
Nice. Bring on the boobplate.

>>50432498
>>50432691
I'm pretty certain that somewhere it mentions female stormcasts, they look exactly like regular stormcasts because the armour is standardised, but they are still women inside.

>>50433836
Does someone have that art from a drawthread of a female stormcast getting dressed?

>>50433836
No. Female Stormcast have been mentioned, but what they look like has never been stated.

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>>50433965
This one?

>>50434321
Well, it has been somewhat implied, considering that the bit where it is mentioned states that the *entire* royal family that was reforged and then goes on to show how they look now. I mean, yeah, it could have described just the male members of that family, but that's also mere assumption.
At any rate, we will soon know, I guess.

Recruited a new player to AoS this weekend. He is starting with Dispossesed Dwarves. I tried to convince him to just spray them metal and wash and go from there.

The more old school players in my group said spray black and then continue from there which in my opinion is just an unnecersary extra step on those Ironbreakers.

>>50434885
>Well, it has been somewhat implied

Not really though.
All we've met for sure are male Stormcast.
You cannot make any statements about female Stormcast other than that they exist.

>>50434949
I've always done black or gray on my dispossessed, even the recent ones, mainly because I won't spend a dime on GW spray primer, but it would save a step or 2 for new players.

>>50434995
I'm a black spray kinda guy myself, but most of the Dwarf soldiers are 80% metallics. Also the black spray guys in the group gave an in my opinion false argument of black spray creating stronger 'constrast'.

>>50435064
Well to be fair you only undercoat with silver to get them done quickly, but if you are going for quality painting, you undercoat with black, gray, or white. So they are not wrong, but it's not too much of a difference and your friend should be fine undercoating silver.

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>>50435064
If anything, with the current Leadbelcher spray I'd start with a white basecoat, as it is a fairly dark silver. But that is not needed, the spray itself is fine on its own. My stormcast are leadbelcher only, and it works well enough.

>>50435116
>>50435106
He's gonna roll with Black since their miniatures show better painting skill so their opinion carry more weight.

I didn't make too much of a point of it either since I just want the guy to enjoy painting and for me personally that means achieving nice results on relative short term since semi finishing a unit gives me more motivation to paint more stuff.

>>50434809
Yep, that's the one