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Have you been kicked out of a group /tg/?

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Have you been kicked out of a group /tg/?
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>>50390903
No. Usually I spend my time walking away from dumpster fires.
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A couple of times, although it's always been pretty mutual. If I call someone on their bullshit and the response is to turn on me rather than dealing with the actual problem, they're probably not worth playing with.
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Sure, several times. Some of them were completely my fault, some weren't. It happens. I don't have high expectations from online game groups I find on 4chan.
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>>50390903
Yeah, the GM was a stein supporter and got pissy when he commented on my pro-trump facebook posts. So, I kindly reminded him that Stein has so little support that she couldn't even win one state. He kicked me the next day, said I was "too mean" for the group. He must have been at least 40.
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The dude to the left is going to Keijo the fuck out of the dude to the right.
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>>50390903
Nah. But I did ditch quite a few that were boring or offensively stupid.
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>>50391025

I may be writing a set of rules for Keijo in Legends of the Wulin. I'll probably post them on /tg/ when I've fully fleshed them out.
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>>50391006
Get back to /pol/, you scum.
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I had a a group just not tell me when the next game was and not respond to any texts when I asked what was going on. Took the hint pretty fast but that one was kinda pathetic since they didn't really hide the fact that they were still playing. Christ, at least treat me with SOME respect, all I did was play kinda shitty, not like I took a dump on the table or something.
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I'll try to green text it

>Me and my friend are new to roleplay and decide to try it out
>go to local gaming store where they play one
>met the GM and joined the Pathfinder game
>Went to the first session and it went okay but my friend and I didn't do much
>Go to the second session
>The GM decides to make us fight his minmaxing(that guy) friend who was several levels higher then us
>We die
>Talk to the GM afterwards and ask him why he killed us off
>We were "doing "his story wrong"
>Mfw
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>>50391043
No. That's just the reason I got kicked from the group. I'm sorry your so triggered by this post with an anime wolf girl
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Been in the same group for 3 or 4 years now and we've never had to kick someone. Mostly due to the small size of 4 people and all of us being friends for years prior.
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Yes, but the game is run by a librarian and open only to middle and high schoolers.
So every person who had joined before me and, at this point, most of the people who joined after me have also been kicked from the group for being too... graduated.
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>>50391038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlEzmThYsTg
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>>50390903
Once.

A guy I knew was looking to get a 2nd Ed AD&D game off the ground, and was looking for players. I volunteered and told him about an acquaintance of mine, who I'll call Bob the Bouncer, who I knew through the SCA (inb4 'hurr durr fake knights') who I knew would be down. I introduced Bob the Bouncer to the DM, they hit it off pretty well, we had a game going. Things went pretty well for about a month and a had.

Then one weekend the game is cancelled. Apparently the DM's son had wound up in jail after he couldn't hold his liquor and made a scene at a bar. Wound up getting his shit slapped and hauled away by the cops, the DM had to cancel the game as he and his wife figured out how they were going to deal with bail bonding, lawyer fees, and medical bills.

So I call my pal Bob the Bouncer to tell him why game night was cancelled, and he goes "Oh shit. This was last night? I think that was my bar. I think I shut down the DM's kid."

You see, I call him Bob the Bouncer because he is a bouncer by trade. He hits people on both a recreational and professional basis, and he's really not the guy you want to fuck with. He's not a bad guy by any means, his number one priority is deescalating bad situations, but if you insist a conflict must have a violent resolution he will resolve it.

So anyway, our DM's kid had made an ass of himself in Bob's bar and refused to see reason and leave of his own accord. Bob had never met the lad, he was always out of the house on game night, didn't know him from Adam. Maybe if they were acquainted or if he had at least recognized him from a photo, he could have leveraged that into a peaceful "Hey man, I'm a friend of your dad's, I don't wanna hassle you over these douchebags pissing you off; how about you take one for the road and roll out?" solution. Instead, the boy threatened Bob and shattered a bottle to use as a weapon.
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>>50391292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkMKYotY4MA
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>>50390903
Never. We've also never had to remove someone, though once some guy screwed another guy's girlfriend and ended up leaving on his own to avoid seeing him.
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>>50391345
So Bob the Bouncer, as he was both legally indemnified to and obligated by professional ethics to do, demonstrated why he his not the person you want to fuck with, Held a very brief Krav Maga seminar on the spot, bruised the kid pretty bad, gave him a concussion, and incidentally left him with some lacerations on his palm when Bob maybe kinda accidentally but not really crushed his fist around the broken bottle hard enough the stem shattered.

So that was a problem.

What made it worse was the ensuing legal proceedings. Bob had to testify that the kid was acting the fool and was in wrong, because some bad shit went down and if the bar owner didn't press charges and if Bob didn't tell the whole tale. both of them were liable for all sorts of damages and their respective careers were basically done. This led to a lot of additional burdens one our DM's family, and he booted both Bob and I from the game, Bob for beating his son's ass and helping leave him with a criminal record, me for introducing the two. Which really wouldn't have had any effect on how that story eventually played out, but it was an emotional decision, and I can't really fault him because every game night would have been all kind of awkward.

So that's the one time I got kicked from a group. Damn shame, the campaign was going great til that point.
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Sorta?

> Mid-90's. Me and BroDM go to older dude's house to play.
> This guy is cringe-mountain. Total trench coat anarchist with the shitty round colored glasses.
> He has a special homebrew - random roll for everything.
> I end up being a Troll Paladin, Bro is a Gnoll Rogue.
> Piss him off early by pointing out that gold is not "the strongest metal" as he suggests.
> Proceeds to use every opportunity to fuck with me and try to kill me.
> Only lets me loot a tutu from a massive battle we pass by.
> Gets pissed when I fumbleluck through fighting a couple displacer beasts that are just like... on the road attacking folks.
> Finally says fuck it, has some children rip boards off a boat and nail-bat me with in the heart.
> Refuses to explain how or why.

I'd of preferred if he'd just said "I don't like you" and saved me three hours.
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>>50391006
So all you did was support a candidate on your facebook, or did you bring up your political views in-game?

Former is stupid and that guy is a faggot for kicking you, but if it's the latter and you were disrupting gameplay by doing it, that's pretty douchey on your part. Half of my friends are hardcore Bernie-bots who think Trump is literally Hitler and we get along just fine because we don't bring up OOC discussions in-game.
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>>50391878
Nah, I think I made, like, one or two wall jokes, but other than that I felt it out of the game.
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>>50391918
Sounds like you were that guy
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>>50391918
If that's true, then the guy was a faggot. Next time just don't tell the group which candidate you support until you're sure they won't freak out.
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>>50391918
*left it out of the game
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No, but I've kicked fuck tons of people out of games.

Seriously. How many people over the years?

50 or more? 70?

Those are the perils of public recruitment I guess. Finding players so fuckin' bad you kick them out, I mean.

Hi to all the banned players out there!
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>>50393200
Hi dad.
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>>50390903
Just once. I was playing a paladin and the lol randumb rouge murdered some hobo who might have had information leading to the guy we were tracking down.

After the man said he didn't know anything the rouge rolled sense motive to see if he was lying, he was but his character didn't say anything and killed him on the spot.

I looked at him across the table and asked him if he was really going to kill this street urchin. He laughed it off and said yes and i asked him again, to which he stabbed the dude. Immediately smited evil and it caused a ruckus.

DM was buds with the rogue and he told me to leave.
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>>50390903
Thrice, Once when iw as 15 and Just couldn't wake up arly enough to get to the game

Second time was when I was 17, I didn't get along with the gm, she literally had a friend of hers pick our starting gear based on what we said we wanted to play.

Third time the GM was literally autistic and though I would "Threaten his railroad" actual words used by his long time friend who told me why the gm booted me after brought it up with him.

Oh and a 4th time with some guys that got a lot of shit in a game finder thread because they were hypocrites. Booted several possibly players because we were apparently "being autistic"despite the gm and hi friends already in the group acting in mostly the same way.

Oh yea and one more group from when I was 18, Gm didn't like that the girl he had eyes for took a liking to me. This group was cancer, like think Sanders (the guy that apparently half of tg knows as being terrible and who shits on him during every game finder he posts in) but make him more crass and a literal pedophile, that was the leader of said group. long story short I introduced a friend in said group to a girl who was 17, she bought her friend who I though was 16, she was 12. I didn't find out for a while because I avoided her when we weren't in a game She liked me because She didn't know how much of a dick I was because i avoided her and she only saw me when I was acting nice for the sake of being nice to my friend's Girlfriend's(now ex-girlfriend) best friend. Travis being the filthy fuck he is flirts with the girl, I don't care because I'm not aware of how young she is, She comes to me for help because she's bad at telling people off. I tell her to just tell him to stop and if he doesn't she should block him on skype so he can't bug her. She does so Travis throws a hissy fit and ousts me from the group. Which honestly it was gonna happen anyways, the only guy from said group i got along with is one of my current best friends, Part 1 of 2 maybe 3
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>>50394781
Part 2

I hated everyone else in said group but this was before I discovered 4chan or roll20 so beggars couldn't be choosers I was with those fuckers for 3 years.till then. Right before I'm officially kicked out and they change the team speak password and remove me from Skype I find out the one girl is 12 and I immediately tell her to get the hell away from me. She 's too god damned young for me and I'm sure as shit not risking anything despite the fact she had the body of a 16 year old girl. I'm probably already on a government watch list thanks to my father's internet history. (another story for another time is that that idiot went to some sites that caused the redneck half uniformed swat teams of West Virginia to bust down the door) I tell her to fuck off, because I want her as far away from em as possible because I ain't goin to jail because of her. Then before I can even talk with anyone from the group I'm told about my removal via my best friend and that the straw that broke the camel's back was most likely the fact that the girl in question liked me and it pissed Travis right the fuck off. I still find it funny that that's what did it given that Travis had no Idea I encouraged her to tell him off. SO i got kicked because he thought I was stealing his waifu. In all honesty though given how cancerous the group was and my own immaturity at the time I probably would've gotten kicked out within a month anyways. So yea that's the story of how I got kicked from my very first gaming group, I didn't list them at first seeing as how they mostly did crappy home brews and no real systems. Like naruto fucking garbage with some engender swapped characters, and an alternate universe Girl und panzer game(boys could also into tonk) in which I got my arms ripped off and replaced with mechanical arms, and then died to a shark because a psycho from a corrupt criminal family threw me overboard for calling out her shit . That cancerous game is it's own story.
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>>50390903
No
Because wasn't even in one
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>>50391006
>letting political opinions affect your real life

and this is why representative democracy is 100% worse than having actual technocrats in charge
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>>50390903
Got kicked from a Shadowrun game in session 0 because I rolled a Sinner Decker and wanted a shotgun license attached to my SIN so I could own a shotgun strictly for home defense (it was only for if gangers came to my house and wasn't going to be used on runs at all). The GM turned out to be incredibly anti-gun and specifically said that in canon only the police, corp security teams and criminals owned guns and no private citizen owned them legally unless they belonged to a sec team or lonestar or something. I pointed to numerous manufacturers in the books selling specifically to the home defense market.

I brought it up in a shadowrun thread on here and on the shadowrun subreddit and everyone seemed to agree with me that shadowrun is a crazy dystopian hell hole because literally everyone and their roomba is armed and not because only those in power have guns. Also I was told by a moderator of /r/runnerhub that the guy had been banned from /r/runnerhub for being an insufferable asshole so I apparently dodged a bullet.
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>>50391043
I agree with you politically, but the guy didn't do anything wrong. No need to be so harsh, man.
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>>50391540
Fuck. That sucks. I mean, the kid was a moron and got his just desserts, so I can see it from Bob's perspective. He can't open himself up to being sued either. Then also, I mean, I would have learned my lesson pretty bloody quick, but this kid has this shit hanging around him from the rest of his life.
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I should have kicked a player, or bowed out 6 sessions ago when he started. God, I just hate that fucker. I don't want to talk to him, I don't want to resolve anything, I just never want to see his face again.

I've got no interest in gaming at all. I want to tie up my game as soon as possible and call it quits and never see the group again. That's how much I hate this completely useless person.
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>>50398738
YOU'RE A QUIVERING NECKBEARD
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>>50396071
Why the fuck would you DM Shadowrun if you're that against guns?
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>>50390903
No, but I kicked my DM out of our group.
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>>50398571
Heil Hydra
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>>50390903
No, but there's two players I should really talk to.

One barely participates and I don't think he's said anything beyond a couple one liners in the past few sessions.

One refuses to remember the rules, but at least he's engaging in the RP decently.
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>>50390903
No, but I did nuke one by accident once because the other players were too beta to tell me that they didn't like the direction I was trying to steer the game in. They wanted to be murderhobos, I wanted our party to have some presence on the world stage, they flipped out about it and killed the game.
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Yeah I got caught taking creepshots of the DMs 14 year old daughter who was also in the game. He banned me from bis house. I get him back by jacking off to pictures of his ex wife side by side with porn at least twice a week. She was in the game, too, playing a half elf druid.
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>>50394781
>She liked me because She didn't know how much of a dick I was because i avoided her and she only saw me when I was acting nice for the sake of being nice to my friend's Girlfriend's(now ex-girlfriend) best friend
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>>50399452
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I once played with an established group who were basically a fanclub for a particular series. The endless fanwanking circle jerk, with the other players (GM's friends) getting major preferential treatment was unbearable. So after another session of discussions about what certain elements should be to reflect the series they loved and getting all my actions GM veto'd to uselessness I walked away.
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I've never been kicked out, but someone did blacklist me from joining a game she was in. She got pissed off when I quit a game she was running, told the GM of the game she was playing in that I wasn't allowed to join, and he went along with it.
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>>50391271
Creepy
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I had a few too many to drink and it was getting late. The DM set up the cliffhanger and I cut her off shouting "Behold, gentlemen! The final encounter"

Then I stood up, whipped out my schlong and lay it right there on the table.
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>>50396071
This is what happens when you swallow the bluepill too hard
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Kicked a guy once, found out he read ahead on the AP. Good friend, no hard feelings.
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>>50398928
I've done this once before in a short campaign based similarly off the 2010 film "Bunraku". A world where WW3 lead to every state, country and political leader to universally agree to destroy all modern weaponry and heavily outlaw and criminlize guns. A few decades later the project is successful, there are no guns but there is still murder, it's just now people are back to using swords, knives and axes to kill. The only mention of guns is during a high stakes poker game where the dealer asks what he will be betting with, cash, diamonds or in a hushed whisper, bullets.

Campaign basically involved them getting involved with a crimelord and in traditional shadowrun manners, were sent to hijack a smuggling ring and the package turned out to be a box of .45 bullets.
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>>50400590
And then they laughed and declared it to have +8 to its armor class.
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>>50399452
Post some of the creep shots for proof faggot, if you've got them of his wife you clearly have the others.
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I nearly did from a Roll20 group. Upon hearing that one of the players is fat I started telling fat jokes.
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>>50398886
I don't understand if that term has additional connotations aside from the literal meaning.
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>>50402320
At least
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>>50390903

I have not been directly kicked out, but have once been pointedly not informed of when sessions were taking place in the future.
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I once kicked out two new guys for making too many 4chan memes. It was really dumb shit too, like every time the word troll was mentioned they'd look at eachother and loudly proclaim "Trollface! :D".

I one got kicked out after 6 months of biweekly gaming because I started to hook up with the DMs best frend/stalker victim. She wasn't even in our group at the time. Later she told me that she prefers to keep her relationships semi-secret from him since he can't handle her being with guys and it keeps him up at night or something.
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Technically Once
Well you see i was kicked out of the game as it was ending ending as in the group self destructed and the dm's *yes more then one* could not take it

ill try to give the easy run down but it was a massive shit show so here we go

Session 0
people are late but eventually everybody gets there
me being more experienced with d&d 5e then aparently any of the dm's and co dm's i helped make 3-4 of the characters not including my own

we had 8 people Heres a brief run down
Me Drow-Warlock *early on in my edge faze of d&d since over that now*
human-fighter Was a really cool dude role played often and good backstory
Gnome-Cleric Life cleric only lawfully anything out of all of us
Halfling-Rogue Left after first session Probably saw the shit storm
Drow-Wizard OH god i need a fucking longer area to describe this but this guy was playing a socoipathic magic hungry greedy faggot of a character he literally had a character trait where he would when around magic items just start trying to kill you if you kept them this led to problems later on
and thats all of the-
oh did i forget the most interesting of the cast?

sorry let me put those

INTRODUCING
The LIZARD WOMEN MONK COMPLETE WITH ACTUALLY *AND IM NOT JOKING HE MADE THIS INTENTIONALLY* 3 COCKS AND IS PREGNANT

AND THE HOMEBREWD DEMON-KIN CLASS, i have literaly no idea what this was the players never got to saw it and apparently he made it himself
he had like d12 hit die but also warlock spells? really confusing

Surprisingly it took more then 17 sessions for these guys to implode on themselves and i stayed around for all of it

Anybody want more?
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>>50402929
Most people who have been kicked in this thread deserved it and are bad people, but your DM sounds dangerously mentally unstable.
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>>50403007
>DM is in love with her, but she doesn't love him back, yet she still values his friendship to some degree
>Makes him uncomfortable hearing anon brag about how he banged her every session
>Kicks him out.

What's not to understand?
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>>50390903
I was banned from an lgs once because I got one of the other customers girlfriends to send me a picture of her tits
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>>50398738
Story?
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>>50390903

I once watched a whole group get kicked out from the inside.

Basically we got together and there was about 8 at us towards the start and we went -strong- for a long time. However a few of the guys, including me for a period, just got super fucking baked during the sessions and we started to lose members for very weak reasons. Eventually it just ended up being me and the other stoners and i noticed in about 4 hours of games night we'd only do like, 10 minutes of the actual game itself.

Eventually i stopped smoking and i realized how cancerous the other 3 guys were and i too left.

They still get together to play "games night" and they're basically each others only friends and they don't even do anything, they just sit in the same room smoking but not really communicating with each other.
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>>50390903
Yeah.
It was in a kind way, and we're all still friends but I think I stole the spotlight too much
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>>50395924
BEEP BOOP BEEP VRRRRRRRR
He's right you know.
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>>50391043

>if I call the people I disagree with Nazis then they are in the wrong

Nice bait though, it got some U's.
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>>50391666
>Troll Paladin
Suddenly I really want to play this.
Thanks Satan.
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>>50402996
>The LIZARD WOMEN MONK COMPLETE WITH ACTUALLY *AND IM NOT JOKING HE MADE THIS INTENTIONALLY* 3 COCKS AND IS PREGNANT
when some faggot plays his CoC/Nimin character
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>>50390903
I don't play tabletop with strangers.
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>>50402996
Tell me more, I want to hear what I'm imagining happened confirmed
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Sorta kicked, sorta mutual.

>Get invited to group in my town
>People at my FLGS warn me against GM as he's an ass, but I'm desperate to game so I go
>Not that good a GM, but at least I'm gaming
>Have to go on hiatus for a few sessions due to work/holidays/other commitments etc
>During that time, EU referendum happens (britbong here)
>GM reveals himself to be a massive right-winger, posts propaganda and shit all over his Facebook, openly mocks everyone and everything that doesn't share his views
>Make a post after the referendum saying how ashamed I am of my country and that xenophobia is on the rise
>GM fucking loses his shit
>Him posting shit about the left is okay, me posting shit about the right is a crime against humanity
>Get unfriended, blocked, and never invited again

I was planning on dropping out because he was a dick and I wasn't enjoying the game anyway, but jeez the childishness and arrogance. I should have listened to my FLGS.
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>>50402996
I'm sure this couldn't end horribly but I'm down for a story.
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>>50405037
Are you STILL mad about us getting our freedom!?
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>>50391043
Fuck off Canadian.
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Not so much kicked out, but I was once disallowed from joining an Exalted game after I'd already been told I could play and had already made a character for.

This was back when I was in AIT. I showed up to the place we were playing and the GM said 'Yeah, you're not playing' because another guy in the group said he didn't like me and said he wouldn't play if I was playing, and the GM chose him over me.

He was a real shithead about it, and some other guys I was kinda pals with took pity on me and let me join their zombie game. That was kinda fun.
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>>50405037
>Make a post after the referendum saying how ashamed I am of my country and that xenophobia is on the rise
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I never got kicked but if someone needs kicking my group asks me to do it
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>>50405037
People like that don't like to be reminded that they were conned. It's the same reason you see so many trump posters here, they have to shout about it as loud as they can lest people think they have buyer's remorse
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>>50405592
>Regretting either
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe the sting will lessen one day.
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>>50405755
You're right, regret requires that you have the cognitive ability to recognize that you've made a mistake. Something both groups clearly lack.
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>>50405770
Stay mad and uninformed.
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>>50405845
Right back at you
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I think it's always been more or less mutual. Don't recall getting kicked from anything when I wanted to be there and was enjoying myself.

Got kicked from a shitty online group because they sprang a game without warning me. I was super sick at the time, not at all prepared, and the GM decided to gimp my character majorly with no advance warning. I had to quit a little way in because of said sickness and got kicked from the Skype group for it, but I was already looking for a way out due to the GM being shit so I didn't really care.

Caused a group fragment once by calling the primary GM on being a cancerous sadist. Half the group were with me, half were with him, although the whole thing was a long time coming because there was major resentment toward the guy from plenty of the group. Was in retrospect a pretty dumb teen drama.

Aaaaaand a girl kicked me from an RP I had no intention of playing in anyway after I kicked her out of mine for having a fit over losing a mock fight with no stakes. She has some kind of brain problem I think, and while I'm sympathetic, I had no intention of burdening people with her.
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A few times, some people just can't take the banter.

>Pathfinder game, already started
>People seem OK, GM is a bit iffy as he decides some things based on speed of player's reaction/typing speed/who moved his token first/last.
>A few sessions later, we're discussing vidya in OOC when GM mentions that he plays LoL
>I mention how I play Dota and consider it better since it doesn't try to steal my hard earned dineros
>Bad move, Dota triggers GM for reasons I dont remember
>We argue for half an hour, GM spits out some edgy one liner and boots me from group chat.

Sometimes it seems that the best way to stay in a group is to not interact with them except for times of pressing need.
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>>50406056
>Dotards and lolcows arguing
Jesus Christ I can't imagine how awful a sight that must have been for the other players.
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>>50406056
>>50406265

>Running a game
>Get four new players
>End up describing character archtypes as the different roles in LoL, since they all play that
>Everythingwentbetterthenexpected.jpg
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>>50402320
I always did prefer THAC0 myself, good on you
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I'm really trying to remember specifics, but I was actually kicked from two groups in highschool, because everyone involved (myself included) was a bunch of immature shits.

After that, I've been kicked from two or three online groups and one paper group, although the paper group one was mostly because I had a crazy work schedule and couldn't make sessions anymore.

Of the online groups, one was just a bad fit between my and their playstyles, another was more time conflicts mixed with me being unable to actually bring myself to put effort in the times I was there, and the last one was...................... well.

Okay, so the system was either 3.5 or PF, it was a while ago, and this all went down about six or seven sessions in. Group consisted of me playing a crippled wizard, a dumbfuck who thought his gargoyle monk was an actual powergamer build, a woman playing a rogue, and a girl playing some variant cleric I can't remember well. GM was someone I kinda knew, and thought was generally decent. First few sessions go fine, and I start to really look forward to the next one when the GM cancels. Next week, we meet again and either before or after the game I ask the GM what was up and he said he and his GF broke up. I expressed my condolences and we went on with the game as usual, but it became fairly clear a session or two later that the GM was aggressively hitting on the two female players, one of whom was married and the other was probably no more than 17 and horribly shy. After about a week of this, I try to talk to the GM about how his behavior is making me uncomfortable and the girls actively upset, and he kicks me.

About a week later, I hear from the rogue that she and the cleric both left. I think the next game I played in was with both of them and the rogue's husband, and I remember it being pretty fun.
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>>50390903
Yes, I was once, before even game started. To be honest, I still don't understand why. Maybe because everyone wanted to play mostly social game, and I just wanted to crush skulls and collect treasure. I mean, that's the fucking DnD.
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>>50390903
When I was about 14 my CN barbarian showing the slightest interest in being paid for risking his life to clear out dangerous monsters from some rando's tower had one of the other members of my party declare me as evil and disinvited, IC and OOC, from the group.
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>>50406484
Not necessarily THAC0. in 3.5 a fine size category creature would get +8 AC too.
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>>50405755
>>50405845
>le laughing stock second world country acting smug
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>>50402996
moar
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Dont know if oficially kicked, just that we didnt continue playing or they just didnt invite me again
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>>50390903
I got kicked out of a group because I told the GM that I was anxious about making a PC that would fit with the current party composition, which he decided to interpret as my fun being "different from the group's fun". Pretty fucking salty about it since I've played with the guy for three years and he apparently thought kicking me out was more important than helping me out and talking over what a suitable PC for the party would be.
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>>50394943
>>50394781
I just want you to know that this story is pretty good and made me audibly kek.
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>>50402311
See, if it was something like that I'd be fine with it. It was that he was using canon Shadowrun but basically saying unless you worked for some kind of sec team or were a criminal you couldn't be carrying.
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>>50404609
>No guise I swear weed is not a drug!!
>Way better than alcohol or tobacco

Good to know you've pulled youself together, man.
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>>50398994
Heil Satan
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>>50410020
*Seitan
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>>50402996
Please sir, I want some more...
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>>50406056
>Initiating a flamewar by outright saying that what you like is better than what your DM likes

When you say "interact" what you mean is "be an asshole to a fellow autist"
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>>50391057
What a double nigger
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I was being that guy after the group was being that group. Its my fault but i was glad to get out.
>space opra game
>play the sole survivor of a space pirate crew.
>rest of the party is cops scientist and upper crust guys and ninjas.
>they start shitting on my character in and out of game
>only character that can actually pilot the ship
>we get a job to kill a guy and his group
>find out they are in a building in a ghost town
>party decides to talk about what we'll do
>for an hour
>tell the gm im flying through the building
>party is horrified
>attack me
>shoot one of my party members
>dead
>fly through the building
>kill everyone inside
>i demand i get xp for everyone in the building
>asked to leave
I was a real ass but still fuck those guys
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>>50413081
I did a similar thing once, but it was a suicide vest. GM handwaved it not to work.
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>>50390903
A couple times

I'm a situationally dependent That Guy, and the causal situation is being in a group with another That Guy. It's quite the feedback loop.

I had to stop going in the game finder threads because I got to the point where I would always know someone in a new game coming together.
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>>50404972
Because they kick you out, right?
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>>50410366
There is absolutely nothing wrong about having or voicing preferences that differs from other peoples. No mature person would ever start a flamewar or throw a tantrum over such things.

I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by loudly and intentionally misinterpreting other peoples experiences, unless your goal is to demonstrate the mindset of the DM from the previous post. However I doubt that's what you were set out to do.

>When you say "interact" what you mean is "be an asshole to a fellow autist"
This line is in itself so ironic that it hurts my sides.
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>>50390903
Sort of?

I was DMing a game with a group of people, and this one guy who I THOUGHT was having fun mentioned privately to me that he had ideas about having a game where he would DM. I told him I'd be interested for it on any day except Friday. He said he was just in the planning stages for it.

While playing though, the party gets into a fight with some flying monsters that start whooping their asses and basically force the party to run because they couldn't think of any way to deal with them. That guy then suddenly announced that he was running his own game on Fridays and that he wouldn't be able to show up to our game today anymore due to 'work' getting in the way. 'Everyone' was invited.

The group actually kept going to mine, and I heard that the other game basically petered out really fast. After that, the rest of my players stopped showing up due to actual military arrangements (ALL of my players were in the Air Force/Army and wound up getting shipped out).

I honestly wasn't to bothered about it, they were frankly the worst group I've ever DMd for.
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>>50405037
>Make a post after the referendum saying how ashamed I am of my country and that xenophobia is on the rise

On the one hand, being one amongst the horde of asspained libtards who posted shit like this in the post-Brexit cooldown makes you an irredeemable faggot. On the other hand, people who post their political opinions all over Facebook are invariably cunts. Frankly I think you both deserve each other.
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>>50394781
>>50394943

In case anyone else is curious, no, that word-diarrhea is not actually worth reading. The summary is is got kicked out by the GM because the GM thought that a 12 year-old girl liked Anon and wanted to up his chances.
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>>50410366
>Anon says "mention" a preference
>Suddenly he's the instigator

Witchhunters on /tg/ need to get the fuck out of here already. I'm tired of seeing a third of story threads devolve into retarded baiting and arguing.
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>>50399452
>things that didn't happen
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>>50415934
No one asked for your opinion though. Maybe you're better of working on your self-insight instead of judging others.
Because I'm pretty sure self-made men might argue that using meme-speech to go out of your way to insult strangers on a malaysyan dungeon and dragons forum makes you an "irredeemable faggot" and an "asspained cunt".
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>>50403054
Are you DM anon?
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>>50405037
Were you roleplaying a warrior on a quest to save his wife's son?
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>>50391271
The librarian is a pedo m8. Did he touch you?
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Aether Pulse sounds like a shitty pokemon name and i dislike the name clauses. Boons and Eldritch Blasts just sounded cooler.

The ability to form a pact with your nation is super fucking cool though. I havent played a lock since complete arcane or 4e phb were brand new, I could definitly see myself playing that class.

Still about halfway through the avowed playtest, i will share more thoughts soon. Definitly gonna use this as my Warlock port in my Planescape game.
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>>50418727
fk wrng thread
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>>50410366
>commenting about one game being better than another
This might be rude depending on the tone, but

>other guy takes it as a personal insult "the game you like is bad therefore you are stupid"
This shit here needs to be stopped. Whoever takes a criticism to something they like in that way needs to grow up.
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>>50399452
prove it.
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>>50402929
I hope youre still fucking her, just to mess with Virt... I mean, him
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>>50409574
Marijuana is a drug, but it is less harmful physically than tobacco or alcohol. Mentally it is in between alcohol and tobacco
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>>50391006
You are at most 12.
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>>50391540
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>>50399452
post those pics then
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>>50402406
keks audibly
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>>50421944
A pen knife is sharp but less harmful than a kitchen knife or a machete.

Don't worry, you won't feel a tiny little stab!
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>>50404962
>Call of Cthulhu game where everyone plays a CoC character
Now I want to run this.
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>>50422904
>horror game has tentacles
>characters are of lewd nature

I hope you're ready to get your lewds on.
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>>50422815
You're pretty dense, anon.
He's saying that weed is a drug, but not a terribly harmful one. Just one that makes you incapable of doing anything while on it.

Comparing it to knives doesn't quite work, because knives are physical, and weed causes no physical harm.
It might be better to compare them to literature.
Tobacco is like Ayn Rand. Easy to consume, and if taken seriously results in a very black and white world view. There's no benefits to reading her works. It is actively harmful to partake.
Weed is like reading fantasy novels no one has ever heard of. It wastes your time, and there's only a small handful of people who can relate to you on the books. It's not terribly harmful, but it's not helpful either.
Alcohol is like GRRM's behemoths. Consuming them is a no better use of your time than a literally who's fantasy pulp, but the amount of people who have read/watched GRRM's work means you can converse and relate to a great deal of people on it. It has the benefit of being socially acceptable, at the cost of your time.

The best course of action is simply to partake in none of them. The positives are non-existent when compared to say, reading Dostoevsky or Balzac.
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>>50405037
>Make a post after the referendum saying how ashamed I am of my country and that xenophobia is on the rise
Should have knee capped you as well, labour cuck. Fuck off to Nigeria or Middle East shithole of you like them so much.
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>>50423323
Not him, but isn't weed addictive too?
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>>50391043
What the fuck is going on with captain faggot's torso? If
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>>50391006
Same, except it was a bunch of Bernie supporters.

They also ended up swallowing their pride as it turned out none of them could DM for shit.
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>>50423323
>no physical harm
>Implying that smoking carcinogens in weed isn't just as bad as shit like tobacco
>Also implying that weed doesn't likely have detrimental effects on the brain

>>50423622
Though weedfriends often say it isn't, research seems to indicate for a subsection of the population it can be, though for the majority they do not form physical dependence for a number of reasons. One being that the active drug actually stays in your system quite a long time (mostly in adipose tissue) and depletes slowly making it hard to actually suddenly crash like you can on other drugs. Another because the neurotransmitter it mainly acts on in the brain is not as crucial and doesn't react in the same way as say the opiate receptors. Unfortunately there's not a lot of hard data on this as research is hard to do because of the whole "war on drugs" thing which makes studies in many countries very hard to get permission for.
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>>50423622
No more so than alcohol.
Addiction is a complicated subject. I don't pretend to understand it fully.
What is true, is that there is no highly addictive compound like nicotine present in weed. Weed isn't a stimulant after all.

This does not prevent a psychological addiction however. But anything that causes the release of "good" chemicals in the brain can do this.

If in doubt, don't partake.

>>50423855
Bruh.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq/#link/_13
>Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory
>At this time, there is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy

Arguing health risks (or benefits) at this point is pure folly.
We don't know what weed can and cannot do.
But it's a safe statement that cigarettes are far worse for the lungs than blunts. Blunts don't lead to tar in the lungs, for one thing.
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>>50423855
Smoking anything is inherently bad for your lungs, but there are other ways to use marijuana, most of which are starting to become more popular, cause y'know lung cancer and all that
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>>50421944
Let's agree that all three are shit.
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>>50423978
>Dude, one specific clinical targeted use of compounds in weed can kill cells
First of all, not only is it unreliable to trust single results of antitumor activity in the biochem literature with the reproduction crisis going on, but animal/cell culture results of specific treatments =/= just shoving shit in your body whilly nilly. Second of all you have to realize that "cancer cells" are for the most part the same as regular cells, and it is not a good thing to put in your body if half of these results are true?
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>>50399452
you'd better stop RIGHT NOW
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>>50424035
It's more accurate to say that all induce chemicals into the body that are not required.

We don't need to insist on some crazy Straight Edge approach, because sometimes the chemicals induce desired effects. Living on some black and white principle about only letting the required chemicals and compounds into your body isn't a life decision for everyone. We're not all going to be monks.

>>50424136
>At this time, there is not enough evidence to recommend that patients inhale or ingest Cannabis as a treatment for cancer-related symptoms or side effects of cancer therapy

I included this for a reason.
It directly contracts and weakens the first quotation I listed.

Chemicals are chemicals. They interact with other chemicals, and produce reactions. Inducing chemicals into the human body will produce reactions. Tracking every single reaction is beyond our ability.
We know that fluoride strengthens teeth, but it might also reduce fertility. Who is able to say? Lab work cannot replicate real-world conditions.

Outside of the major effects (alcohol putting strain on the liver and decreased muscle control brain processing speed) it's pointless to sit and bicker over what a complex mixture of chemicals does to the human body. Not unless we're scientists researching these things, and I would be surprised if anyone in this conversation is.

Only the major effects matter. The major effect of fluoride is positive. The major effects of alcohol and marijuana do not harm the body (barring excess, but this is true of anything).
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>>50424350
>I included this for a reason.
>It directly contracts and weakens the first quotation I listed.
Then why bring it up in the first place if you acknowledge how stupid the premise is?

Also
>Alcohol doesn't harm the body
Literature recently published says that even minor chronic intake of alcohol is very strongly correlated with an increase in a few types of cancers. It's something people have suspected for a while, but only with recent large datasets has it been connected with real world data.
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>>50424487
Shit dude, everything causes cancer. Cancer causes cancer. But I digress.

>Then why bring it up in the first place?
See, this is the point where you step back and consider my intent. If I've done a good job in my argument, I shouldn't need to answer this, it should be apparent. But I make no claim to being a good author.

My continual point is what we have no clue what chemicals fully do. They could help, they could harm. Marijuana may kill cancer cells, it may not.

The only thing we can say with certainty, is that partaking in any mind-altering substance comes at the cost of our time. We're back to >>50423323

Consuming alcohol or marijuana prevents us from engaging in more productive activities, in the same way that reading bad fiction is using up time that could be spent reading good fiction. Smoking a bowl or drinking a pint could be time spent working out at the gym, or getting ahead on work.

But this just leads to the larger topic of Work versus Leisure that Economics goes into. We work because it benefits us and improves our status in life, or we partake in leisure because it is more pleasing and enjoyable. Sometimes work and leisure overlap, but not all the time.

We're on the Traditional Games board. Playing games is spending time on leisure. By being here, we're all accepting that leisure activities are desirable. Playing Advanced Pretend is no more productive than smoking a bowl. This whole thing got kicked off by someone getting picky about the leisure activities of others. The lads trying to be the Straight Edge "holier than thou" monks needed a little pin prick to bring them back down to earth.

There's a hole or two in the expressed reasoning, but I hope you take my meaning so I don't need to spend more characters patching them.
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>>50424724
> we have no clue what chemicals fully do. They could help, they could harm. Marijuana may kill cancer cells, it may not.
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>>50424772
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One group I DM'd for called for a break because they were all busy. Haven't heard about them ever since.

It's for the best, they were terrible.
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>>50424836
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>>50390903

Yes, for calling Anita Sarkeesian a con artist.

And another time because my proper Immaculate Monk character triggered the ST's underage lesbian girlfriend and her "fight the power lol do things your own way Dragons are just a metaphor" abortion of an Immaculate Monk.
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>>50391043

Fuck off, commie, he's the president and you can't suppress nationalism anymore.
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Yeah, my DM was a Trump supporter so I said he should be okay with my character sexually assaulting the questgiver. I was just grabbing her by the pussy, after all, totally normal and reasonable thing for an adult to do. Bitch kicked me.
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>>50419077

Who the fuck is Virt? I've been gone since before election season when /tg/ got too bluepilled for me, if he was around before that I don't recall him.
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>>50425010
I bet you thought you were being really clever
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I got kicked from a game on suptg for not being feminist enough.
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>>50425010
>Thinking a female trump supporter of all people could take a joke
You are almost as dumb as her.
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>>50425161
Virt is a guy with some spicy opinions.
He's also a massive shitposter who is under regular permabans. Report and ignore.

When he's not shitposting (maybe 5% of his posts) he's almost always correct. He's a fairly knowledgeable guy.

He also thinks he's smarter than he is, because usually his opinion is based on that of someone else, who is smarter than himself and doesn't shitpost on a Taiwanese shitflingling webzone.

http://virtualoptim.tumblr.com/
Front page of his tumblr is a good sample right now. First image is him shitposting, but the root ideas of the shitpost are correct (as in any shitpost that will collect many (you)s and kill a thread).
Below that is a link to someone else smarter than himself, whose opinions Virt will repeat.
On the plus side, the opinions Virt repeats are generally opinions he understands and has internalized, rather than opinions he parrots without thought.
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>>50425010
>assuming she has a vagina

Wow dude. You know not all women have meat holes, right? I'm actually moderately offended right now. Think before you post.
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>>50390903
Had to kick this annoying asshole out of my group once

>Guy thinks he is the most hilarious person on Earth
>Has to make a joke every 2 minutes no matter what
>Will not allow anyone to say anything at al without making fun of it
>Never once takes a single thing seriously, jokes with us when we try to get absolutely any gameplay out of the faggot
>Starts making fun of everyone else in game as well
>Pretends his bard is a jokester too
>Cannot stand the little shit any longer
>He cannot play the nest week, we all actually have a nice fun game for once, we decide we want more of this so Joker douche has to go
>The week after we tell him to not bother because his character died the previous week he did not show.
>Never tell him when we are playing again,
>Game goes on nicely and becomes one of the most fun sessions I have been a part of for the next year

I seriously wanted to strangle that bastard every time he opened his mouth. Fuck him.
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>>50425295
What other kind of holes do they have, soul holes for stealing men's souls?
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I once got kicked for being a cop, it was the most surreal thing I've ever experienced.
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>>50425370
Wait, why on earth would they kick you for being a cop? Were they doing fucked up shit and didn't want you to know about it?

This goes straight all the way to the top! Even the DM is in on this!
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>>50415836

And there's the proof.

>You: YEAH LOL SUCKS IT TAKES MUH SHEKELS
>DM: Can we please get back to the game?
>You: ONLY WHEN YOU ADMIT LOL SUCKS AND DOTA IS THE BEST
>DM: You're scaring my cat, please leave
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>>50425370
WOAH SHIT, 5-0 EVERYBODY, 5-0
POOOO LEEASE HERE HIDE YOUR GOOD /tg/ SHIT!
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>>50417970
>No one asked for your opinion though.

The triggering is real.
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>>50405129
>our freedom!?

but you're still attached to the rest of the UK, and you're lot leaving the EU anytime soon.

you'll never be free.
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>>50425253

Jalapeno spicy or jaga scorpion pepper spicy?
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>>50418417
He is looking for the man who destroyed his cuckshed
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>>50425370
Was it a Shadowrun campaign?
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>>50425233

How are you STILL this mad?
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>>50425453
Article 50 by the end of March m8.
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>>50425501
I'm simply stating a fact, trump supporters are typically uneducated unskilled laborers and internet memechildren, and the female ones are usually even dumber than their male counterparts.
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>>50425526
>implying

the government will kill it, and it'll be like farage.

dead and forgotten about.
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>>50402929
>>50403007
>>50403065
Was fired from a job because of this same shit.

Manager guy was the same kind of textbook example of creeper fuck that horned after female employee really badly, but he never ever asked her out or made any moves at all. Just creeped after her all the time and acted like a genuine stalker. And she was genuinely creeped out by him too, she hated working with him. He eventually thought that I was fucking her so he kept trying to cut my hours all the time, and then he fired both of us after I went to a party at her house that manager guy was not originally told about. Don't know who did inform him of it.

And I never fucked her either, I had a girlfriend, she had a boyfriend the entire time...

But Georgia is a right to work state so it was not illegal either.
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I got kicked once for getting into an OOC Stand battle with another player and wrecking the GM's house.
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>>50425564
If the government kills Brexit I guarantee you it'll be pandemonium. Can you imagine HALF of the electorate suddenly losing any and all faith in the political system?
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>>50404609
Saw the opposite happen, but it still killed the group.

We used to meet each week but we got really fucking high while playing. Then eventually other friends of players would show up, 1 of them joined the game. Others would just linger around and watch us play. Then after a while more people started appearing because they just assumed Thursday was just when everyone went to a house to get really fucked up. So there were now 6-7 other people showing up that had no intention of playing at all, they just wanted to smoke someone's weed.

Killed the game when we just wanted the random friends of friends to quit showing up and fucking up everything.
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>>50425406
>>50425439
>>50425498

No, the DM invited a new girl he met at a bar. Bright blue hair, nosering that made her look like a pig. She was black and a super-vocal BLM supporter. She was nice and friendly until she found out I was a LEO, actually, but after that she claimed she was having panic attacks every time I was around and the DM was lonely and wanted dat chocopuss more than he wanted my Monk around, so...I got the boot.
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>>50425564

Oh, so you're still in the Denial stage of grief.
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>>50425483

He's trying to avenge his bull's death.
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>>50390903

No, but I'm a forever-GM. I've kicked several people out of roll20 games just for being unreliable shits. Far more flakes than any other major shortcoming.
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>>50425653
>She was nice and friendly until she found out I was a LEO
Man what the fuck does astrology have to do with all this. I'm just getting fucking confused.
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>>50425479
Carolina Reaper.
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>>50425545

Your butthurt is delicious, please keep being mad.
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>>50425545
>when the numale cries just right
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>>50425545
Sure, that's it.
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>>50425707
Law Enforcement Officer, anon. The cunt was afraid she'd get ferguson'd.
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>>50425707

Law Enforcement Officer, retard.
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>>50425564
Except even the EU wants a hard Brexit so as not to fuel anti EU sentient.
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>>50425719

Isn't Virt the guy who writes edgy posts about wanting to rapemurder elf girls?

>>50425783

That was the most retarded shit because Mike Brown unironically 100% deserved to get shot. He was a life in prison on the taxpayer's dime waiting to happen.
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>>50425727
>>50425764
>>50425764
>>50425782
I know that your limited intelligence makes it hard for you to do anything but communicate through memes, but please try to have at least a bit of self awareness to realize who's really getting mad in this situation. Hint for you, It isn't me
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>>50425809

Will Belgium even exist as a country once Italy, France, and the Netherlands pull out of the EU?
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>>50425815
Yep that's Virt, also I suspect he's behind the shieldwall spear worship and 'muh axes are terrible weapons'.
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>>50425653
>but after that she claimed she was having panic attacks every time I was around and the DM was lonely and wanted dat chocopuss more than he wanted my Monk around, so...
that's legit sad

shit
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>>50425815
>Isn't Virt the guy who writes edgy posts about wanting to rapemurder elf girls?
Oh shit, I've actually seen a few of those posts before.


Did not know he was some known weirdo.
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>>50424906
>Dragons are just a metaphor
?????
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>>50425815
Yes, yes he is. Also, I never said that Brown didn't deserve it. The issue with most BLM supporters is that they seem to think that every black person was an innocent little baby who just needed a chance to do good. The amazing thing is that for all of their cries for equality and unity, they're quick to turn on their own for differing opinions. There was a case a few weeks back where an old woman shot a black teen that broke into her house and tried to assault her before attempting to make a break for it. I lost "friends" because I disagreed when they thought me being black means I had to immediately take the dindu's side and agree with his retarded ass sisters who claimed robbery was his only means of making money.
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>>50425836
I'm not American, I'm Canadian. I just dislike sweeping statements about Americans especially the ones about the flyover/ Southern states and especially of laborers. As shitting on the backbone of your military and primary industry is just ungodly ungrateful.
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>>50425836

Every liberal desperately clings to their Women's Studies degree and overpriced urban apartment as proof of intelligence, as if incurring debt for learning how to whine was an accomplishment.

Why would anyone but you be mad? If you're at all intelligent, you should be able to articulate it like an adult. We won, you lost. We have congress (both branches), we have the POTUS, we'll have the SCOTUS for decades, we have the majority of governorships, the majority of state legislatures, the VAST majority of private gun owners, the police, and the military. The only institution we don't control is the universities, because it's a greenhouse for fragile marxists, and when they hit the real world they find out that a degree in Ethnic Basket Weaving only qualifies them for an exciting career at Arby's.

What do you have, protesters bussed in from other cities to burn down your homes, paid for by your globalist overlord Soros? In what way, exactly, is there anything at all we should be upset about? Please oh please share your valuable insights with me.
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>>50425838
Memes aside Belgium actually has a national identity.

It'll just become as irrelevant as Lichtenstein without the EU.
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>>50425896
You have no idea anon. Apparently he's a damned good GM though if you can make it past his autistic behavior and vehement shitposting.
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>>50390903
Only happened once. Exalted game, the group kept trying to find a diplomatic solution to a bunch of Immaculate monks who were clearly not interested in talking, and when the fight breaks out I had to use that berserker Resistance charm to kill the one that was trying to murder the goddess who was hosting us, this fight happened well away from both groups inside her manse, and when I'm about to kill him SUDDENLY the monks want to talk, and the group gets on my case for not stopping. I had no IC knowledge the fight was over, and I couldn't actually stop anyway. When I point this out, I'm asked to leave.
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>>50425920

Be kind to him, he's grieving and grief makes people irrational. As a proud Ohioan, I forgive him.
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>>50425937
dude not cool it's illegal to own niggers like that
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>>50425852
Personally I like to blame the "you need Renaissance-era math in order to sail out of sight of the coasts" meme on him as well.
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>>50425903

She probably didn't believe the five Immaculate Dragons were actually physically real and kicked Anathema ass.
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>>50425981
Disappeared on work for a few months recently, when did he try that?
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>>50425997
There's no evidence he did, but introducing /his/ to Virt is entertaining enough.
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>>50425545

As a female Trump supporter, you can go fuck yourself if you think I'm dumb for voting for a guy who talked crassly about groupies over a man who actually raped women and his wife who silenced the victims. I bet you think you're a feminist, too. Disgusting.
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>>50426008
I can only imagine.
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>>50425979

Only because Republicans made it illegal in the first place.
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>>50425920
>Backbone of the military
Oh god forbid I not respect a bunch of freeloading cunts who live on my fucking tax dollars and get free fucking education after their free fucking room and board tour of the world where they do jack shit but maintain an "American presence" in some bumfuck country where they get drunk and fuck some underage chink hooker.
How dare I not show proper respect the brave men who kill some sand niggers with their 15,000 dollar assault carbine which cost another few billion to produce, so that some oil exec can gain a foothold in the middle eastern oil pipeline.
Do you know how much those cunts are costing the country? A metric fuckload (135 billion, give or take 50 billion of assorted but not included in the DOD breakdown costs).

>primary industry
Yeah, you realize this isn't the 1950s, the reason those fags voted trump is there is no primary industry there any more.
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>>50425653
>playing with a cop
They did the right thing for a wrong reason.
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>>50426044
And this is why no one takes you seriously.
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>>50425937
Not even 'murrikan here, and I find the fact that you boast about electing an entitled baby and destroyed the chance of any positive change in your country for at least a decade thanks to getting those shits into congress yet again absolutely hilarious.

Your only hope is that Trump is actually in someone's pocket who's actually competent. Which is quite possible.
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>>50426044

I think this is the first time I've ever seen a liberal complain about someone living off taxpayer dollars.

>$15,000 assault carbine

I almost want to post this to /k/ just to see the reaction.

>$15,000
>$15,000
>$15,000
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Yes, after proving the 3.5 monks were shit compared to the barbarians in everything ever. That group thought monks were overpowered and were very fond of their opinions to the point of shoving them through my throat, I paid with the same coin but backing my arguments with actual proof.
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>>50426123

Define positive change before a liberal mod bans me in a fit of spergfury.
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>>50426123
>Not even 'murrikan

Then your country and your opinion will never, ever be relevant

>Entitled baby

What's more entitled than "It's her turn"?
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>>50426123
So basically your argument is all the opinions of a non citizen?

Have you ever visited heartland America?
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>>50416214
Thank you.
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>>50426151
Fix your healthcare, fix your education. Stop shutting down abortion clinics maybe. Possibly at least some gun control laws, but there's probably another 20 years of school shootings and gang violence before that could have happened anyway.
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>>50426100
Wow great argument faggot, you sure showed me the errors of my ways. Let's go out and increase military spending again, because it sure is a valuable way to spend tax money which certainly improves the American citizen's lot in life.

>>50426124
>If you aren't a retard voting for trump you must be a democrat REEEE!
Please kill yourself.

And fine, I put an extra zero on the price tag, it still is a huge waste of money to equip 10s of thousands of soldiers with em.
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>>50404962
>tfw I know what that really refers to
What am I doing with my life
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>>50426022
Oh I'm sorry you failed to comprehend, you are dumber than most because you are a women on top of being a trump supporter, not because of anything like groping.

>Some complaints about nonexistant rape which somehow might possibly connect to the other candidate
See, because you vote on nonissues like this is the problem.
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>>50426044
>if you're a poor white who doesn't live off gibsmedats, and take a government job, you're a freeloading cunt
>if you bust your ass off to keep up with standarts of the best military on Earth, and expected to fight nations led by heartless monsters, you're a lazy whorefucker
>if you fight for liberal values with a costly weapon, it's your guilt and you're a deplorable.

Hoo boy, I won't even point out the 'mericacentrism, this fuck couldn't understand globalism even if he tried.
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>>50426190
I never justified your military budget, only yelling obscenities and shitting all over the good work many of it's members do while conveniently ignoring the absolute shit your leaders drag them into is why you lose respect and make Trump look like a good guy when he promises to reform the Military so there's less overhead and more going to beneficial services.
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>>50426188
>Fix your healthcare

The Democrat attempt at that was a broken mess, and we elected the only Republican who gave a shit about it at all, next!

>fix your education

The problem with our education system stems from it being too liberal and prioritizing self-esteem over adults as well as catering to how women learn more than how men learn, and it's run top-to-bottom by liberals. Next!

>Stop shutting down abortion clinics maybe

Nope! A baby's life is worth more than your "right" to party.

>Possibly at least some gun control laws

S H A L L N O T B E I N F R I N G E D

The only gun law we need was put into action by the Founding Fathers, it's called the Second Amendment.
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>>50426123
>Not even 'murrikan here

I didn't know they had internet and electricity in cucksheds
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>>50426190
He never said Democrat. Only liberal.
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>>50426210
>you are dumber than most because you are a women on top of being a trump supporter
>because you are a women
>a women

Liberal intellectuals, everyone.
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>>50426188

None of that is positive change, you're just mad because you were promised that your policies were inevitable and found out the hard way they weren't.
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>>50426273
Yeah, he sure fucked up that sentence bigly, didn't he
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>>50426299
Only an American could actually look at the state of American health care and education and not think that shit was in need of some fixing t b h
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>>50426190

Honest question, when was the last time you held a gun, or even left your mother's basement?
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>>50426300

Do you mean "big league"?
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>>50426235
>>if you're a poor white who doesn't live off gibsmedats, and take a government job, you're a freeloading cunt
100% true, people involved in government are parasites, it's fucking bad enough we have to suffer the ones that are required to keep this country running, it's inexcusable that we have to suffer this many and then thank them for taking our money. Next time I'm out I better go thank the deskjob faggot living off a pension for their wonderful service of diverting tax money from somewhere it might actually be of use.

>if you bust your ass off to keep up with standards of the best military on Earth
Oh wow, being in the very loose standards of the army is hard, I shed a tear every time I think of those brave boys being forced to do an obstacle course. ;_;7

>and expected to fight nations led by heartless monsters,
Right, right, remind me again, when was the last actual nation on nation war we had? Oh right, it was WWII. Shooting at some CIA trained sandniggers in a desert isn't "fighting against nations lead by heartless monsters", nor is piloting a drone to with 10 KM of some sandnigger wedding party.
>Fighting for muh lubral values!
Wow that sounds so fucking nice, too bad it's a total lie. There is not a single reason for america to be involved in other countries period. They can go fuck themselves, their tax dollars don't go into our country to fix our messes, so why should we go into theirs for them?
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>>50426313
Muricans believe in RULES OF NATURE and Jesus simultaneously. Makes sense they want to have more babies to be weeded out and burned out in education system, so they would bolster the rank of the lowest class, which will be treated as a horde of sinners.
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>>50426262
Which means "democrat" in American political retard speak. That's why you see /pol/ crying about "LIBRALS ARE RUING THIS COUNTRY REEE!" despite every political party in the us being liberal in one, or more areas of their policy.
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>>50426313
Canadian here and I can say my experiences with American healthcare has been pleasant.

Just didn't go to big name hospitals where they screwed you over on non generic medicines. Honestly the wait lines were beautiful.
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>>50426399
No it doesn't, it includes most other parties except maybe the libertarians.

Who are retarded enough in their own way.
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>>50426300
You do realise "bigly" isn't a neologism and is an actual word, yes? I see so many retarded liberals using this as some kind of trump card in an online debate while failing to realise that it is an actual word

But yeah, sums up arrogant Bill Maher/Stephen Colbert era Facebook liberals in a nutshell
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>>50426429
>The libertarian party
>Not THE god damned shining example of pure liberalism in the US

Are you shitting me.
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>>50426404
I lived in Canada during college and while I agree that American healthcare is bad for most people... those wait room times are painful man.
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>>50426373
>Libertarian doesn't understand how states work and interact: the post

Right. I'd rather not try to tell you why USA not being as isolationist as 16th century Japan is a good thing for you, that'll be a lot of wasted effort.
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>>50426479
I only went to clinics while over there and they were honestly great.

The bovine TB a little less so.
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Kinda

I was asked to leave a group because my job changed and I was showing up one hour later then the typical starting time.

My DM said that he didn't feel like dealing with it and said I'm out.
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>>50426505
I had to wait 5 hours once in a Toronto for a referral

I wish I was kidding
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>>50426469
Liberalism is about being open to new ideas and change. Libertarianism is all for more freedoms and personal responsibility.
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>>50426489
>fuck globalism reeeeee, vote trump
>Actually a better choice would be a party with clearly articulated stances and ways they want to implamnet them
>Psht, fuck off you retarded libertarian don't you understand the wonders of globalism!?

Also you little shit, being noninteventionist is not the same as being isolationist.
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>>50426529
Yeah I believe you, as a child my brother while overly enthusiastically digging put a garden fork through my wrist (actually an accident, I think).

Took 3 hours and getting sent from one Hospital to another to get seen by an ER doctor.
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>>50426543
>Thinks the perverted Americanized definition of liberalism is the correct one
That's not liberalism it's just a hollow shell of it masquerading in it's place.
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>>50426606
And I've never met a true Scotsman either.
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>>50426548
>implying I vote trump
>"we don't need no stinking army!"
>noninteventionist state ever mattering

What you stand for is a fine way to implode into irrelevancy. But hey, getting everyone out of their swamp is what libertarians want, I understand.
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The liberal philosophy existed long before people decided to start calling this bastardized form of it liberalism. It's no fallacy to point out that it's bumfucking retarded to equate the two, not to mention basically only Americans have trouble with the distinction between classical Liberalism and neo liberalism". Every other civilized country you say the liberal party, they know you mean the party that embraces freedom from all types of restrictions. It's only in burgerclap land where somehow liberal suddenly means "is in favor of equality for everyone regardless of what freedoms must be restricted". Americans just love to be contrarian faggots I guess.
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>>50426692
What century do you live in? Every other countries liberal party (from the UK to NZ) are neo liberals based off the American model.

Hell, they weren't even true liberals a century ago.
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>>50426672
Oh no, we might not be relevant if we don't have a standing army!!!

Wait-
Why is that a bad thing again? Not having to preside over policy decisions for the world, not having to be the global police, not having to send our citizens to die for other country's sins?

Maybe it would ruin our position as economic powerhouse... Oh wait no trade would be maintained with the developed world because that really doesn't hinge on having a standing army.

Hmm, yeah, not really seeing a down side.
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>>50426692
>>50426732
Name one that doesn't promote for more welfare, taxes, weapon control etc
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>>50426744
No petro dollar and massive national debt.

Hmm, you'll last long.
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>>50426732
I don't know where you are getting your information, but from what I know those are usually termed the progressive party or some flowery sounding horse shit. Sure the liberal parties aren't pure ideological liberalism, but that would be too much to ask for in today's political climate. They have to be a bit pragmatic with the candidates.
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>>50426692
Maybe some of us don't like the whole situation around going to work every single day to a job that I don't particularly like and have almost a third of my earnings taken out and then given over to the loser shit couple down the street that just get high and watch reality shows all fucking day. They get free government money just to be alive, my fucking money.

That shit has to end, that fucking loser needs to get a goddamn job, and their kids need to be taken out of that house.

Democrats give fucks like that free money for being stoner assholes just to get more votes.
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>>50426760
>Dude petro dollars!
Right, I'm sure the moment that the US decided to start downsizing it's army the whole worldwide system of petrodollars would collapse or reverse course.

>Massive national debt
You realize that not having a standing army doesn't figure into making it any worse and in fact looks like it would somewhat lessen the burden?
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>>50426692
Was meant for
>>50426616
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>>50425937

It's an indisputable fact that Democrat controlled states fare better handle Republican states. There's a reason educated individuals and money flow to California and new york rather than to Kansas or wyoming.

And maybe staying in this echo chamber has delused you enough, but your victory is going to be fleeting. As soon as the people in the rust belt realize that you don't actually have the power to get their jobs back, that you're not going to make their lives better, and that you're in fact going to fuck them over in order to ensure greater tax cuts for the rich, you're gonna get wiped the fuck out like you did in 2006. The alt-right is going to be a thing of the past just like neoconservativism, just watch.
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>>50409187
Thanks, I'll probably tell some horror stories of the old group later. Either gonna try and greentext them or just work on making my normal wiring less word diarrhea like as some put it.
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>>50427069
>>50426871
>>50426813
>>50426786
>>50426760
>>50426746
>>50426744
>>50426732
Can y'all maybe shut the fuck up about politics? I came to share and read stories about being kicked from gaming groups, not watch a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals talk about bullshit. Take that shit to /pol/.
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>>50425937
>What do you have, protesters bussed in from other cities to burn down your homes, paid for by your globalist overlord Soros?

That literally never happened.

What did happen was that a Trump protest and a tech conference happened at the same time. Incredible right?

You were making a strong point until you put your tinfoil hat on, too.
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>>50427130
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>>50427130
>I am physically unable to write "intellectual" without adding "pseudo-"
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>>50426188
>fix your healthcare
>fix your education
>stop shutting down abortion clinics

Consider this:
The Federal government declares abortion to be legal under federal law – now and for all time – for both the doctor and the patient, when the procedure is done in the first trimester.

The funny thing is that the above statement is Trump's stance on abortion. Similarly, he wants to remove regulations from the healthcare industry and hospitals in general, because the regulations prevent competition and result in worse care for patients. Education is one of his lesser concerns I believe, but we could see Ben Carson as Secretary of Education, and that man knows a great deal on the subject, GoP party mouthpiece or not.

Funny I say, because you don't know what you're talking about, because chances are, you've only listened to what the main stream media has told you about Trump instead of doing your own research.
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>>50427130
>Pseudo intellectual
Pray tell what about the angry shouting match was even approaching a semblance of any sort of intellectual?
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>>50427225
Except trump has campaigned on the "repeal obamacare" stance, which is bumfuck retarded as there's still not been a single comprehensive replacement proposed by the republicans in all this time and repealing something 20 million people have started to depend upon with no replacement is a recipe for a disaster.

>Carson
Mate, it was reported days ago it was going to be "Dude charter schools lamo" devos

>You should have done your own research!
Funny you should say that when you don't even know the guy's choices for his cabinet positions. This is what fucking happens when you vote for a guy who doesn't even have concrete policy and positions picked out before the god damn election.
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>>50427225
Trump can say whatever the fuck he wants, the problem is that I rather doubt the GoP congress will bend over for him just because he's on the same team. To say nothing of the fact that Trump seems to be a rather whim of the moment person.
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>>50427303
You imply that obamacare fixed healthcare.
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>>50427237
I was attempting to be polite.
>>50427212
Oh dear, did I hurt your precious fee fees? Maybe reconsidering where you choose to host political debates from now on will keep this from happening again.
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>>50427353
Well maybe if the republicans hadn't shit all over it before deigning to let it get through congress, it would have done better than it has.

Still better than what was there before.
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>>50427369
>Still better than what was there before.
>"well it's better to be enslaved to mine our gold than to be sacrificed to the Aztec gods," said the Spaniard
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>>50427353
I didn't imply that, I pointed out that Obama care, no matter how much you hate it is obviously going to be better than trying to suddenly reverse course with no fucking tracks behind us to switch onto. There is no replacement, there will be no replacement that could even function that could be cooked up in a short period of time if it couldn't be cooked up in the 7 years since it was proposed. If he actually does keep his promise it would be fucking disastrous considering how much change to the industry and laws would have to be reversed after six years of acclimating to them.

That said It's pretty doubtful he will actually dismantle it and he'll probably renege on that promise too, along with "jailing Hillery", "building the wall", and every other outlandish thing he said on the trail.
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>>50399452
Virt?
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>>50426313

See >>50426251

Come back when your country is relevant.
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>>50425786

He was joking, shitlourde.
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>>50426386

A

FUCKING

LEAF
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>>50425010
You're either retarded or shitposting. Either way, go away.
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>>50426373
>very loose

Post a picture to prove you aren't a fat neckbeard who can't run a mile or GTFO.
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>>50427069
>You'll see! Trump will never win the primaries!
>You'll see! Trump will never win the election!
>You'll see! Trump will never win re-election!

k
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>Be liberal
>Lose election because of disenfranchising and shit-talking the white working class, donating their hard-earned money to Taniqua and her twelve fatherless spawn or Achmed the 27-year-old-15-year-old refugee, and trying to destroy national sovereignty
>Rather than try to re-unify, do everything you can in a fit of bitter baby rage to ensure the white working class votes Republican forever

Gratz on losing the backbone of your party boi.
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>>50427554
The fact that you think running a mile is some difficult test of skill only makes me think you are the fat neckbeard son.
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>>50395924
Oh yeah, because that worked SO well for the EU. Rapefugees everywhere, skyrocketing unemployment, depressed wages, and the rise of the far right to political prominence.
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>>50427135

It must be wonderful being a naive child in a sheltered college bubble.
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>>50427588
>Be liberal
>Lose election because white unskilled laborers don't understand economics and believe a memelord empowered aspect of Kek can singlehandedly overturn all checks and balances and magically give them back their high paying unskilled labor jobs
>Going to enjoy the fireworks when the "totally not like that other guy who made wild promises and then failed to deliver guy" does the same thing and the pendulum swings back to the other side
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>>50427130
>I came to share and read stories about being kicked from gaming groups, not watch a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals talk about bullshit.
but you repeat yourself
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>>50427069

Wherever you have a large urban population, you will have a lot of tax money. This isn't a result of democratic leadership (elected by the moneyless gibsmedats of the state), but rather a simple result of having large cities. Go take an Economics class that doesn't have a portrait of Karl Marx hanging from the wall.

>thinking this is fleeting

It could have been, honestly, if you had immediately dropped the progressive rhetoric of privilege and blaming the rust belt workers for being white, straight, and male...but you didn't have the sense for that. No, you got angry, you shat all over the other side, and you refused to learn from your mistakes. Thanks for giving us 2020, fucknut, and thanks for 2024. I hope the Republicans run a black female candidate just to cement your legacy as being nothing but shit.
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>>50427135
Hey man, not him, but I'm from Baltimore. Two years ago when we had our riots, people were coming in on buses. Things lasted one day, then disappeared.

I'm not going to point fingers or anything like that, but people getting bused around to stage incidents does happen, and it's been happening since as far back as the 50s for one reason or another. Regardless of what you think about politics, give Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals a read.
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>>50427135

How do you not know about George Soros' paid protests in 2016? You have the internet, do you just not read anything ever?

>>50427225

This, he's an anti-war centrist civic nationalist who conned the living fuck out of racists.
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>>50427530
>shitlord

You have to go back.
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>>50427618

I never said it was difficult, just that you can't do it without shitting your sweatpants. Nice diversion, but I don't see any denial.

>son

Seems like I struck a nerve~
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>>50427727
Racist reporting.
I feel conned, but there was no one else to vote for. I wrote Ralph Nadar in.
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>>50427670
>Democrats
>Even promise to stop illegal immigration and outsourcing

This would be funny if I actually believed you were American.
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Wow, are these the Reddit Raiders from r/communism who are supposed to be trying to turn the non-/pol/ boards commie? Doing a shit job guys tbqh.
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>>50427717

Chicago here. None of the motherfuckers who were rioting here were locals, none of them. They were organized and according to that Veritas video they get paid for what they do.
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>>50427807
Please tell me this is actually a thing, and not something /pol/ made up.

>attempting to raid 4chan
It's like taking a shit in a toilet. Even the goons know better.
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>>50427772
>Nice diversion
But it's the core of the issue, it is not fucking difficult you cunt, my fitness has no bearing on how "hard" it is for a bunch of completely healthy people who get are physically active to pass such a low threshold.
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>>50427670
>implying the next Dem candidate won't use the same muh privilege muh systemic raycism language that lost them this one

Eight fucking years of Trump ahead boyo.
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>>50427786
You seem to lack reading comprehension my American Republican friend, as I didn't say any of that.
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>>50427727
>50% of the country is wacist
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>>50427830

I wish I had the screenshot, it was 10/10. Apparently they're going to focus on /lit/ and /his/ because those are the "leftie" boards and then mass-apply for mod/janitor positions.
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>>50399452
>get him back by jacking off

Buddy, you've got issues
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>>50427858
Human's are preconditioned to be racist, it's hardly a stretch.
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>>50427831

It does when you're shittalking jarheads who could stuff your head into your own anus without breaking a sweat, fatty.
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>>50400590
I wish that story was true
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>>50427851

And you say we don't understand economics.
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>>50427904
Oh, but it is.
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>>50427888
>Human's are preconditioned to be racist, it's hardly a stretch.

So.

The left wing are the ones freely demonizing 50% of the populace as being wicked beyond the moral pale, but it's *Republicans* who are threatening to undermine the very fabric of our representative democracy.

It should be illegal to vote until you're 30.
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>>50427890
Fun Fact Normal people that go to war. Don't want to go to war after the tours done
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I got kicked out of a group of friends, then again, A LOT of people got kicked.

To be fair, I was kicked for two main valid reasons:

1. I wasn't afraid to say that I was not enjoying aspects of Pathfinder. Granted I was factually right considering, but I would usually state what was wrong via in game complaints.
2. I stepped into my magical realm one too many times. First time I ever played Pathfinder was a Construct-based character who was this beer-dispensing, hedonist viking gynoid. Second time was in an MnM 3e game which I played a character who was secretly a 27-breasted, 60 foot tall broodmother alien.

However, I also got accused of "being a misogynist creeper". Keep in mind that the group "voted" on this right before the game was about to start. Of course, some of the people that voted against were also kicked out.

Thankfully I ended up avoiding anymore time with the worst of Pathfinder's playerbase has to offer.
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>>50427890
>How dare you shit talk freeloaders who live on the taxpayers dime, they could totally beat you up, just like that cool navy seal who posts here.
Oh the horror, oh wait this isn't elementary school and being physically stronger doesn't entitle you to being free of criticism or to assault people at will. I know that will be a little hard for someone who never grew out of their juvenile mindset to understand, but that's how the grown up world works.
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>>50427876
Wew.
>go check on /lit/
>they're still shitposting about New Sincerity and how Socrates would score the most boipussy of any philosopher, of all time, ever
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>>50427941
It should be illegal to vote for 95% of the population 2bh.
Universal suffrage was a mistake. Democracy is the government of the Weak.

We've played into their hands for too long.
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>>50427949
>providing a service and being paid for it makes you a "freeloader"
u wot m8
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>>50427941
>Tribalism
Its a thing dog
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>>50427947
>However, I also got accused of "being a misogynist creeper". Keep in mind that the group "voted" on this right before the game was about to start. Of course, some of the people that voted against were also kicked out.

It says something about the modern state of affairs that I can't decide if this is a troll, carefully constructed with an eye towards the political derail in the thread, or if the political comments in the thread lend credulity to the tale.
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>>50427920
Well you clearly don't as you seem to think free trade is evil, and protectionism doesn't harm the economic wellbeing of the overall state, and that by imposing protectionist policies jobs will suddenly materialize which pay an hours wage when dollar store tier automation can still replace most of those jobs while operating a factory on American soil, and earn a profit while passing the costs onto the American consumer.

But maybe, maybe trump can pass laws saying that every worker deserves a share of the profit. Almost like they had joint ownership of the means of production. Like it was some sort of, ism, or something. I'm sure that would work.
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>>50427982
What service do they provide exactly in an age of nuclear deterrence, interlinked economic systems, and relative peace that hasn't seen a total war in the civilized world in more than half a century?

Maybe their service is being a politically correct way to waste tax dollars and provide wellfare for a million and a half people on the off chance that they might actually possibly do something useful later?
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>>50427947
>Pathfinder

You missed nothing.
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>>50427984
It has nothing to do with the retardation that ruined this thread, I promise. This is what one of my friends straight up told me what they said as they were playing. This was also about 4 years ago.

The DM was a big SJW at the time, and hte last campaign I played with them was a Ravenloft campaign that got dumped on three sessions in by the minmaxer killing Strahd in the middle of a cave for the ritual. (That guy was also kicked, and so was the friend that told me about the shit they said about me).
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>>50427941
I don't know what point you are trying to make and I don't much care you weeaboo cunt.

>>>/a/ is thataway
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>>50428050

he's going all out
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>>50427949

So in short you ARE a fatty who complains that military standards are too easy while being unable to meet them himself. Good lord, your dad must be ashamed of you.
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>>50428072
>I don't know what point you are trying to make and I don't much care you weeaboo cunt.
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>>50427130
Fair enough, I shouldn't have let myself be dragged into really.
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>>50428067
Pretty much. Although the 5e game I was in a few years later had a lot wrong with it that no amount of improvement in system could make up for.

How many people here are familiar with the 145 page edgelord story?
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>>50428098
>How many people here are familiar with the 145 page edgelord story?

not me. describe.
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>>50428092
>Into it.
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I got kicked out of a group because, and I quote the DM, "You scream RULES OF NATURE every time you crit and it scares my cat."

It wasn't "every" time, Keith, you're just a faggot who couldn't handle me killing your DMPC Athar Cleric Medusa (Male). Next time don't bring your ERP character to a serious game.
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>>50428077
>Can't justify paying millions of fucking people more than a hundred billion a year in tax dollars when they have only the most questionable use to the American people
>Just memes instead of providing any argument
Just fuck off you dumb nigger.
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>>50428104
Here you go.
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>>50428072
>you weeaboo cunt
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>>50428098
>145 page edgelord story

Christ almightly.
There was an anon in another thread who had written up a 200 page not!Chinese setting dossier for an upcoming, undisclosed RPG book. He'd been paid better, he said, than he had while working for a university.

>autism does it for free
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>>50428121

... okay. No more bullshit. Pack away the memes, can the keks, brake the fuckin train. I need you to talk straight right now, one hundred percent.

Are you serious right now? As in, not trolling? You're 100% serious with these statements of yours? I need to know.
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>>50428121
>questionable

If having Apache helicopters is questionable, I don't ever want to be unquestionable.

If ruling the world and (under Trump) forcing Eurocucks to pay for it is questionable, I don't ever want to be unquestionable.

If enjoying military surplus rifles that wouldn't exist if it weren't for war is questionable, I don't ever want to be unquestionable.

The reason you're getting memed on, son, is because your argument is too ridiculous ("why don't we get rid of cops" tier) to merit a response beyond ridicule. It's like trying to seriously answer someone who claims the sky is really green and aliens are using brain-altering microwaves to make us think it's blue.
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>>50390903
Once. I didn't know the guy was a new DM. If I had, while I may have still done the things I had, I wouldn't have done them quite so righteously.

Being kicked out also basically ensured that I would never go to a College 'meet-up' group again.

We were playing Changeling the Lost, but in the Middle Ages; for my part, I played a guy who had served in Oliver Cromwell's army as a medic and was basically an ideological zealot. That is to say, he actually believed in all the 'democracy, ahoy' shit that was being peddled.

Long backstory short, my guy was captured by the True Fae, got really fucked up from the experience, and eventually escaped into Ireland by making himself a fake identity.

This guy, who was vaguely yet strongly religious while being a doctor, was plopped in a village with an edgelord Darkling who had a penchant for killing/trapping humans in The Hedge with magic for no reason, a Redcap who literally served a True Fae because his human girlfriend was basically being used as leverage, and a shamanistic individual who could see through the eyes Potatoes.

I have since learned from the experience.

The first thing my character did, while burning magical essence to keep a human appearance to those who were fae, was basically get the Darkling to sign a contract with him so as to curtail the more flagrantly evil shit. The Darkling's player actually thanked me, as the character's Morality had dropped to such shit levels that the character was actually in risk of ceasing to be a character anymore. And this was in the first session.

I was operating under the principle that, god help me, they were PC's and I shouldn't go Deus Vult on them. I have since learned from this.

The second thing my character did was find any and all sources of cold iron in the village and try and pry as much of the shit from people as possible; at this point, he didn't know there was a True Fae lurking about, but he wanted to be prepared.

Should I continue?
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>>50428143
Of course it is dumb ass, if anyone is trolling here It's you since you haven't given even the slightest hint of an argument for America spending it's tax dollars on maintaining a massive standing army, when practically no other developed nation, even those with actual threats on their border (of which the US none unless you think the canucks have been rusing us all along and will invade on polar bears the moment we drop our guard) bother to spend even a fraction of the proportion we spend just maintaining this anachronistic force that has not once been used in legitimate defense of the country in the past century.
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>>50424926
Your country is oligarchist shit-hole and your commander-in-chief is one step above circus clown and was literally a game show host.
National pride needs something to be proud of.
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>>50428199
Maybe wait until someone makes a part 2 to this topic to escape the cancer currently infesting here.
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>>50428233
Alright. I'll go ahead and get the rest of the story typed up in word or something for when everyone stops talking about /pol/ for a while.
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>>50426022
>as a female Trump supporter

Are you even trying?
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>>50428132

I honestly don't get how these people play non-freeform RPGs at all. How do you react when Lady Malevoleficent Bloodrage Ragnarok Moonshadow Soulcalibur the Invincible Vampire Queen gets her shit slapped by Thomasina the Frumpy Town Guard Girl Who Wants To Go Home And Start A Bakery? Or if she gets critted by a goblin? How do they deal with that? They make characters who can't cash the checks their backstory makes. Why do it? How do they handle the inevitable humiliation?
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>>50428185
You still have not provided a single legitimate argument, this isn't the fucking middle ages and this isn't Europe. It is utterly insane to think that without a standing army anyone would try to invade the US, not only does it not make sense from nearly any tactical sense, or the fact that not maintaining a standing army doesn't mean you can't draft troops in such a situation, and ignoring the fact that nuclear deterrence is a thing, and that forcible occupation of any part of the united states would be a logistics nightmare, who in god's name would have the resources to do so and would even benefit from such an action?

>Inb4 but we need to be the world's peace keeping force/we need to protect American interests in other countries
No we don't, other countries can take care of themselves and stop fucking freeloading off of the American people. And if American corporations want to protect their interests they can spend their dime on PMCs.
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>>50428287
53% of white women voted for him.
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>>50428213

... oooookay. Well, then, I'll, uh, lay it out for you. The big bad army is to fight Russia. Since we both had nukes and didn't want to get wiped out in a mutual exchange, we fought the Cold War via proxy wars (Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, etc,) both sides backing local proxies with weapons, technology, money, training, etc.

We thought the Cold War was over, but Putin really, really doesn't want it to be, so here we are. "Nobody else" maintains big armies because we do it for them, and promise to protect them. Like, say, most of NATO. Mind you, Defense Secretary Gates (a Bush appointee that Obama kept on instead of replacing when he took office) said that NATO was becoming a "two-tier" alliance of nations that spend significant sums on their armies and nations that just freeload on the guaranteed security, so that's not just a "Trump thing."

This is such a basic fucking fact of the global power balance that I can't quite process how the fuck you don't know about it. How old are you?
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>>50428287

Statistics don't lie, more white women voted for him than Clinton. Which is smart, poisoning the well for female presidents would be an awful move.
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>>50428216

And my country is also better than your country, and that is an indisputable fact. Don't be angry, just try to uncuck your own nation.

>>50428287

Holy fuck, you're ignorant.
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>>50428213

By "nobody else" you mean the European Union, which is desperately trying to establish an army (mostly by begging with France). China sure has an army, so does Russia, and ISIS does too. We have arguably the best military, but because of that you...want to just throw that away. Your position makes no sense, it's juvenile and riddled with emotions that I almost don't want to try and identify. It would be better if we forced our subordinate nations to pay their share, though, or else pay us for the protection...and guess what? We just elected a candidate to do that.
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>>50428362
>Actually pretending the cold war and the proxy wars to "stop" the spread of communism were legitimate and the red scare not completely manufactured bullshit
Stop. The only thing those wars accomplished was a lot of dead pesants and a good chunk of our guys dead too in continuing conflicts which were practically all failures. Communism failed because it was a shitty system and couldn't actually function,

>Putin is going to warmonger
Eurofags problem, not ours,

>NATO nations freeload
Yeah they do, maybe if we stop picking up the slack they'd actually contribute for once.

>We should maintain an army at the cost of our people, to protect eurofag interests
>This is a "basic fucking fact"
Fuck that, and fuck them. We don't owe them shit.
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>>50428466

Not a legitimate argument. Wow, this sure is a lot easier when you can just say any point against you isn't a legitimate argument
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Back on topic,

I got "cursed" as a fighter by a witch to never be able to hold a weapon again, so I ran with it and picked up a fiddle and became a bard instead.
Only talked in verse "because of the curse" and the like.

I think they just wanted me to leave for always being playing it straight when the group was a lolrandumb gathering instead

In the meantime I suppose I should try to find a new group.
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>>50428466
>Eurofags problem, not ours

... uh, there were people saying that exact same thing in World War II. Except they didn't have the considerable benefit of hindsight that you do.

And yet you're still saying >Hitler was eurofags problem! And yes, it's pretty much the same; Stalin was, if anything, literally worse than Hitler. And the monstrous thing he created carried forth his legacy pretty effectively.
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>>50428570
>being able to speak in verse.

I envy you.
>tfw should be paying off college loans but too busy spending time deciding if learning perfect Shakespearean pentameter or the Greek hexameter would be more ideal.
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>>50428451
>China, russia, isis
>developed nations
Reading comprehension anon.

>the European Union
Most of the european union members think a few firefighting aircraft and some "on the books but totally fucking useless" platoons count as armies and sell off their excess arms and armor to thirdworld former colonies.

>but we have the best military
Wow, we have the best thing that's near completely worthless these days. Wow, I sure am glad we are spending hundreds of billions on maintaining a standing army, because they are good, so we should keep wasting money on maintaining them? That sure makes sense.

The idea of a hostile incursion into American soil is absolutely ridiculous even without an standing army. As already pointed out deterrence and a whole host of other factors makes it so improbable as to be laughable.

>Your position makes no sense
Fine I will explain it very simply.

The reason the government exists is to improve it's own citizens lot in life.
Thus it is to some degree just to impose taxes and other such fees to provide for it's citizens a better life than what they had before.
The money spent on the army protects people who are not our citizens, and the benefit to citizens from this massive cash hemorrhage is negligible at best, and nonexistent at worst.
Therefore it is an unjust use of the citizens money, and thus this money sink should be plugged.

>But we need to spend our money to protect other countries because that's how it is
No we don't. We are only in contractual obligation to offer protection to a handful of countries, almost every other treaty is on a voluntary basis. We have no duty to protect other nations, and we should not do so on our dime. If they want our weapons they can buy them at a fair market price, if they want men they can get PMCs else they can fuck off.
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>>50427212
The pseudo- was pretty fucking fitting for this shit show of a debate.
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>>50428572
Eurofags can band together and stand as one if they want, but they have to stop freeloading off of American citizens.

>Hitler was eurofags problem
He was, the only reason we got involved was because he attacked our vessels over legitimate free trade and got the tojo to pull a sneaky jap attack on one of our bases. It really wouldn't have mattered to us to deal with hitler or some other fucker, so long as our interests weren't interfered with.
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So leaving aside that on the list of things that will never happen in our lifetimes, this is pretty fucking likely to never happen in our lifetimes, I saw a neat-sounding idea at one point and am curious as to what this gibbering mass of shitposters think of it.

the tl;dr is a minimum income, or 'mincome'. Every adult citizen gets enough money to live off of. Perhaps not particularly comfortably, but they don't have the dread of 'am I going to have enough money to have a roof and still be able to eat'. Having a job is extra money on top of this.

How do you figure shit would look within a year? I for one would be greatly amused as the service industry scrambles to figure out how to stop treating employees like shit because their employees no longer have to choose between getting treated like shit or starving.
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>>50428782
You mean unconditional income, basic income, or as I think Milton put it "helicopter money".

Not going to happen. It's basically against the capitalist system, untill life becomes so unbearable for most that they actually vote to change the whole system despite most people hating wellfare, and it being a huge fucking drain on the economy.
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>>50428572
The U.S should've let hitler just be the eurofags problem.
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>>50428880
>Not going to happen. It's basically against the capitalist system,

Sure it will. Capitalism is born of scarcity, and the most scarce resource is almost always labor. Once robots effectively eliminate labor requirements - and then surpass them, harvesting raw materiel more efficiently than humans ever could - we'll be in a post-scarcity society, and we'll have no need for capitalism as we currently practice it.
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>>50428917
>The U.S should've let hitler just be the eurofags problem.

Yeah, let Hitler have the entire combined populace and industrial potential of France to work with. I'm sure that wouldn't come back to bite us later. Not like he was bent on World Domina- oh wait
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>>50428714
>he only reason we got involved was because he attacked our vessels over legitimate free trade and got the tojo to pull a sneaky jap attack on one of our bases. It really wouldn't have mattered to us to deal with hitler or some other fucker, so long as our interests weren't interfered with.

Do you even into history?
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>>50428964
Well true, but I phrased that wrong I meant "never going to happen [in our lifetimes or while we are old enough to enjoy it].

There's also the whole possibility that before we reach post scarcity the .0001% that owns the universal robots are going to cause a war with the rest who have found their whole way of life reduced to redundancy.
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>>50429007
Do you? That's basically what happened, uboats attacked our merchant ships (and some civy ones) and then perl harbored us.
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>>50429007
Just chiming in here, that's not entirely wrong. The majority of the country was in favor of staying out of the war before Pearl Harbor, but that attack basically united everyone on the, "Fuck noninterference, you cunts are going down" side. It's fairly certain that if Roosevelt had asked Congress to go to war before then, they would have said no. Many were even rather leery of sending aid to the allies.
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>>50390903
I've been kicked out and left groups of my own accord, but the causes and sentiments are always the same: there's some disagreement with one or more persons, and I refuse to tolerate them.
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>>50429373
>>50429117
>Destroyers for Bases
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>mfw I am watching liberals become completely marginalized in favor of nationalists versus libertarians.

Gun control is literally done forever now, isn't it? Holy shit that thought is just hitting me. Now we just have to legalize open-carry for swords and legal duels.
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>>50429591
Good riddance. Most gun control laws were written by nogunz retards who don't even understand the purpose of the components they're trying to legislate against.
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