Warhammer 40,000 general

>>50390054
First for
>expecting Magnus to win

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Second for the Omnissiah

>>50390105
I want Magnus to get fucked up but cripple the wolves

t. T-Son

>>50390054

Third for superior Deldar

>>50390124
Fifth for Haemonculi

Seventh for Papa Nurgle

Eleventh for SW corpses

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DOGS MUST PAY

>>50390123

I want very little to come of this, but a couple cool fight scenes and pew pews along the way.

GW have demonstrated they're bad at grasping how to portray a setting stories happen in rather than a stupidly oversized story.

>>50390199

Shoot, left my bust on.

>space hulk deathwing in beta
>plays a few games
>no persistent levels throughout multiplayer
>devs said in a QA video that they want MP to be like a moba, so no persistent leveling
fuck off. refunded instantly.

>>50390123
>>50390142
>Expecting a Phil Kelly favorite army to suffer a crippling defeat
It's almost as if you want to suffer

>>50390206
>>50390199
What the fuck is that name for, Busty Anon.

>>50390231
I dislike persistent leveling, personally.
But what the fuck is the point of leveling in the game then?

15th for the 17th legion.

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>>50390054
Papa bless you, OP! I've been searching everywhere for Assassins 2E!

>>50390231
>refunded instantly.
Literally kys.

Also the levelling only drops off at the end of the chapters not each mission. The idea being you don't have to play the same class for the entire game

>>50390261
why not just make it like l4d, with no leveling, if its going to be so fucking pointless? this isn't a competitive pvp shooter, theres no need to have levels go away every mission set. It's pointless, and shows that they've just tacked on coop and don't really care about it at all, if they want to make it 'like a moba'

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>>50390054

>good shooting
>good armour save
>good invul save
>good mobility
>tough
>cheap
>ok in combat

What the flying fuck is this thing's weakness suppose to be?

>>50390297
none.
thats the problem

>>50390297

Not playing fluffy

>>50390297
Tarpitting. It's got, what, 2 attacks? Drop a fearless cultist blob on it and forget about it for the rest of the game.

5th edition was a mistake.

>>50390321

7th*

>>50390320
I fucking this answer because you're tactical genius has someone gotten a cultist squad into charge range by the 2nd turn

>>50390297
maledictions

>>50390289
Cause progression feels good. I hope they add a cosmetic progression like in DOW2.

Also they did just tack on co-op. Don't preorder games without knowing what you're getting. The beta was exactly what I as expecting.

>>50390344
I actually preordered because there was a beta, and its at no cost to myself because I already got a refund. they also said there would be no customization of characters outside of weapons because its supposed to be 'narrative driven' even in coop.

>>50390366
and I'm perfectly fine with progression
as long as it doesn't reset every time I close out of the damn game. that makes it pointless because you just have to work it all back up again in the game every time you want a better weapon.

>>50390339
Not that guy, but bikes with psyker support, ignores cover blastmasters for the pathfinders, and conversion beamer rapiers will make a tau player use their brain a bit at least.

>>50390339
Have you ever infiltrated massive cultists blobs with Ahriman? It's fairly entertaining.

>>50390336
>5th
Necrons: "OMG i want my body back!!!"
Blood Angels "Land Raider STEEL REHN"
Space Marines "Ultramarines are the best SM because fuck you"
Tyranids "All tyranids are slaves to hive mind, except Swarmlord of course"
Grey Knights "My name is Kaldor Draigo and now I will beat crap of daemon Primarch because this is how awesome I am.

>>50390387
But it also doesn't work against a thing that moves 12+2d6 inches per turn if it doesn't want to go faster.

Riptide has no weaknesses, that is why it is at the moment the best unit in the game and riptide wing is the best formation in the game.

>>50390366
>I actually preordered because there was a beta
Ah fair enough.

>they also said
Thats why it was a hope.

If its not your cup of the then its just not. Its not a huge triple AAA game. Its got its market and it'll try to nail that, its not gonna be the next L4D. The atmosphere was perfect in my opinion.

Fix netcode plz

>>50390321
>>50390336

40k*

>>50390411
>riptide wing is the best formation in the game.
Corpsethief may disagree

>>50390411
>But it also doesn't work against a thing that moves 12+2d6 inches per turn if it doesn't want to go faster.
Riptides don't move 12".

>>50390410
>Blood Angels "Land Raider STEEL REHN"

God that was fucking stupid. People will defend it.

>>50390410
I'd still take all of that over the garbage that is 40k right now.

>>50390297

>good shooting

It shoots like a Leman Russ with Gets Hot but costs a significant chunk more points. Otherwise known as it shoots like shit without a significant number of Markerlights backing it up.

>good invuln save

2/3 of the time, yeah, assuming they don't want to use any of the other abilities.

>cheap

Hardly, that thing is like 200pts. I'll fight a lone Riptide over 200pts of Crisis Suits or Broadsides any day.

Also it's one of the only MCs in the game that doesn't have Fearless. Stack morale modifiers, charge it with something tough that can win combat by a point or two, shoot it with Psychic Shriek, whatever. I've seen Riptides run off the board when their Missile Drones so often that nobody I know brings the Drones any more.

>>50390410
>implying no one would take that over
>eldars D and wraithguard is balanced and flu
>muh tau super shooting
>GRAV CANNONS!!!
>LoL get trough my 2++ re rolleable save
>turn one assaults and summoning units with upgrades shenanigans
>orkz in general
>(add unending CSM complain)

>>50390444
>Complaining about land raiders
How can you even function?

>>50390512
He didn't say it was good, he said it was stupid.

So is there anyway to make the game have less AP2 weapons without gutting entire races?

>>50390320
>>50390342
Pretty much both of these. Riptides hit hard (I've seen one wipe out a squad of Meganobz) but they don't hit often. A good tarpit can simply remove them play since Tau don't have a way to break them out.

The other thing is that Riptides (and most Tau, really) are weak to psychic powers. Outside of one piece of Farsight wargear, they have nothing to Deny the Witch with. Psychic Shriek can tear them apart with even just an average roll. Haven't seen it happen, but on paper Enfeeble and some decent shooting would wreck them too.

>>50390497
There is literally nothing wrong with turn one assaults. The only broken aspect of it is shit like SM deep-strike-after-charging-guaranteed-first-turn

>>50390531
I like the idea of thunderhawks dropping vehicles in the middle of a combat zone, it should be a standard option for all marine flavours, including spiky.

>>50390533
you can terrify riptides off the board if they're camping hard enough

and enfeebling riptides before baptizing them with S10 for that sweet instant death is the best feeling you will ever have playing 40k

>>50390461

5th was complete fucking garbage.

Any infantry outside of a transport? Dead.
Get charged by anything wielding a power weapon? Dead.
Play anything but Loyalist Space Marines? Dead.

The worst edition, by far.

im bored of all these T.sons leaks, wheres my imperial agent leaks at my boys? im ready to purge some heretics

>>50390567
(You)

>>50390054
/TG/ what do you miss from older editions?
I miss fourth edition no TLoS, it can become rather annoying all this TLoS discussions if you can or can't see your opponent models.

>>50390549
If you want to do that just use Thunderhawk Transporter you can drop 1 land raider or 2 smaller vehicles(predator, rhino)

>>50390586

Thanks, senpai.

Wasn't actually trolling though. I like footslogging armies, which were a dumpster fire in 5th, and the most competitive armies were all SM. Remember how everyone and their dog played Space Wolves, Grey Knights or Blood Angels? Remember how Necrons and DEldar were both stuck with dexes two full editions old?

If I preorder these fucking exalted sorcerer's tomorrow and they're HQ I'm going to cry

>>50390549
And if they land on a gretchin then they're fucked because that makes sense...

>>50390567
The hell you're talking about? The fact that orkz had competitive build back then proves you wrong, back then you could foot slog, vehicle rush, etc. And it was fine, muhriness weren't even top armies back then, those were necrons with the punch yourself relic and other gimmicks, even then you had a chance to BTFO necrons even with orkz, MOTHERFUCKING ORKZ.

>>50390611
I remember shit like green tide doing pretty well back then. I did decently with some nids.

I don't know. Maybe I had less waccfags. I dislike 7th ed for the absurdity that formations allow.

>>50390617
Wait till rules are released or suffer the consequences.

>>50390608
I would if I could but, for that thunderhawk price I would rather start a new army.

>>50390635

>The fact that orkz had competitive build back then
>even then you had a chance to BTFO necrons even with orkz

Ahahah no they fucking didn't. They had a single build that wasn't winning fuck all because their dex was an edition old.

>>50390634
The gretchin were bombs anon, forge the narrative.

>>50390658
No Thunderhawk, no dropping vehicles from Thunderhawk.

>>50390594
i miss whatever edition didnt have you need a rulebook, codex, extra online data sheets, suppliment rule books etc. just make me need a rule book and codex please

>>50390444
Tanks can be air dropped today.

>>50390681
Except errata is a good thing, it fixes bad editing. But I get what ur saying.

>>50390681

Just buy a tablet. Can get the 7" amazon one for 30 bucks today. Means you can even just pirate everything.

>>50390617
You think they won't be hq? Of course they're hq.

>>50390642
i dont understand why the formations are so unequal. Like the early ones were broken as fuck. But then as we got later and later in 7th they started releasing worse and worse formations.

>>50390706
damn thanks for the tip man, i always thought tablets were hundred of bucks. guess i dont care how many different rule books they put out now

Does a squad of 10 Pathfinders have 10 Markerlights?

>>50390751
GW always has a tendency to slowly make more and more powerful stuff, then make something practically broken and then suddenly tone down everything until the change of the edition when the cycle starts anew.

They new that gladius was too good, so every single decurion since then has been considerably weaker, all the way to GC which is the first really good one to come out since the space marine codex.

>>50390770

Yup, just get one of the Amazon tablets and you can sideload the Google Play store onto it (which takes literally 5-10 minutes and involves just downloading one folder and running a program, it does it automatically).

Then just get any epub reader app on it, and job's a good one, you can have every codex, supplement, data sheet and formation for free and in one convienient place.

I bought one of those tablets specifically for just that. Considering it costs only slightly more than a single codex.

>>50390773
Yes, markerlights are standard kit on Pathfinders, integrated onto their carbines.

>>50390712
A box of three? Feels a bit weird for a HQ.

>>50390781
See but then you get the fact that GW says they dont care about rules and they are a model company. but you can sorta tell they make rules to sell higher costing models.

>>50390848

Probably a HQ squad. Like 1 unit of them are the three models.

>>50390845
That's pretty sick. 36" markers is fairly beefy.

>>50390574

This.

>>50390574
Fuck off imperials, you get the attention the vast majority of the time

>>50390297
tarpitting, psychic phase and monofiliment

>>50390574
I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't much new in Imperial Agents. A lot of it is probably the online stuff appearing in print for the first time.

>>50390981

No Imperials, no 40K. Deal with it.

>>50390477

yea riptides suck, cant do anything to STACKING MORALE MODIFIERS/PSYCHIC SHRIEK
Cause 3++ invul with fnp LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

>>50391009
I don't believe a word of any of these leaks, but I hate that fact that I'm going to be preordering this tomorrow for my shop's small business Saturday deal without knowing anything about it. Especially if Traitor Legion will have the same rules minus the daemons and Magnus

Got a question folks
You think there will be any european store that will have 1ks termies/tacs/whatever for preorder at non-gw prices AND black friday sales in europe. Like wayland games?
Or are they not allowed to have pre orders of gw stuff?

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>>50391049
Never said otherwise, i just welcome you to go sodomize your self with a chainsaw, and let others have a go at getting nice updates

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>>50391094
>Can't survive a 6 on D chart
What's the point?

>>50391009
Take this shit with a grain of salt, couldn't give anything other than his name

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So I wanted to try out mechanized cult, but I'm having trouble leaving behind the mass cult swarm.

Is the beefy Subterranean Uprising too cheesy? Or would this be a somewhat fun army to play against?

>>50391172

riptides should have d-protection, it's stupid everyone gets the D except tau NOT FAIR

>>50391226
Those facebook posts were cancerous.

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>>50391226

Pls no b8

>>50391203
>mixed guard cult and mining cult
This bothers me

>>50391226
>everyone
>implying CSM have D

>>50391255
Do IG have D?
I think the nuke is only S10

can someone explain to me what Detachments/Formations are, when i played they wasnt a thing, last played 10+ years ago

>>50391264
No non-forge world, not counting santic.

>>50391264
Shadowswords have the D.

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>>50391162

Your butthurt is hilarious.

>>50391226
Most factions don't have D in their codieces.

>>50390241

I'm the busty centaurs guy.

>>50391274
Formations are a named group of specific units you can field. Each often has varied amounts of certain units. Each also gives those units bonuses.

For example you have a formation called The Bloodshart. It's made up of a DP of Khorne and 2-5 Berzerker squads. That means to run it you must have at least 1 DP of Khorne and 2 Berzerker squads, but you can have up to 5 in this formation. The bonus is if within 24" of the DP, all berzerkers are S/T 10 2+/2++/Rending/AP1.

Formations also act like the basic mandatory armylist (1 HQ 2 Troops), so you can take formations as their own "list", so your army can be made up of 3 Bloodsharts.

Detachments are even larger formations that are made up of smaller formations! With more bonuses! Now the Bloodsharts are also 1point per model!

>>50391352
I would run three Bloodsharts.

>>50391287
so is yours really m8

>>50391385
>some faggy reaction image
>edgy

nah senpai kys

>>50391352
ty

>>50391367

>Slow melee unit berzerkers

>Turns off if you kill a T5 monstrous creature

I'd play against you.

>>50391255
>>50391264
>>50391280
>>50391309

knights

>>50391403
>Edgy
you dont really know what that means really do you?

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>>50391385

>m8

Have a drink on me.

>>50391432
>sodomize your self with a chain saw

what did he mean by this?

>>50391424
>melee D
doesn't count

Is 8E going to make this game worth playing for an IG army?

>>50391423
Jokes on you, I already run four dozen Zerkers without the Bloodshart rules! (It's fun even though I always lose.)

>>50391443
its basically a variation on KYS.
>>50391442
(you)

>>50391423
At 1 point per model you can simply drown the board in berzerkers.

>>50391419
No problem bro

Someone who has been interested in 40k fluff for a while but just now wanting to start up an army here. Is a new edition inevitably soon? I want to play Orks because I love their fluff and character but I understand they've been suffering in the crunch department.

>>50391141

so no one knows how gw sells shit here? :()

>>50391203
What app is that?

So at 11 psychic trees available to a 1kson term sarge, there's the 4 CSM/SM cross-overs, biomancy, telepathy, pyro, malefic, change, and two more?

Access to Div and a new tree?

>>50391598
yes

>>50391578

Always collect what you like. Editions and rules change.

>>50391327

Post more busty.

With underslung cannons.

>>50391606
This raises the possibility of prismatic gaze being on deep striking psykers for thousand sons

maybe even on rubrics?

>>50391578
40k is really fun when played in a non-WAAC environment, assuming both players use armies of roughly the same power level

>>50390594
I miss how in 5th, you could assault from a non-Assault Transport if the transport didn't move, since it let you use them for area denial.

>>50390567
5e Marines had Bikes, Space Wolves had Loganwing, and Blood Angels had their rodeo builds. Grey Knights had their options for foot builds too.

Orks ended up having to go more Wagon-intensive simply so they could get a "reliable" tank destroyer, but they still had enough FOC swaps to build a reliable TAC army. That, and Kans were incredibly durable for their cost as HP didn't exist then. Meganobz were good as disposable Klaw vectors simply because the game didn't have Shriek or Grav back then, and Plasma was less efficient as Rapid-Fire was stricter; if you wanted to kill a Meganob, chances are you needed to trade against shooting Wagons/Kans instead.

>>50391637

Ahriman should have the Rubric as a unique special attack.

>>50391467
>its basically a variation on KYS.
What did he meme by this?

>LEAKS FOR THE LEAK GOD
>no leaks

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

how the fuck am I supposed to know what to fucking order fuck

>>50391665

Ahriman should have a spell that turns everyone on the same planet as him barring psykers into dust?

>>50391598
there's 6 book powers (pyromancy, telekinesis, divination, biomancy, telepathy, daemonology)
4 angels of death powers (fulmination, geokenisis, librarius, tehcnomancy) (fuck you im calling them by their sm names)
and one tzeentch specific dicispline.

And yes, GW considers both daemonology disciplines to be 1 when listing it in discipline lists.

>>50391693
I feel ya anon... Visited Faeit212 and BoLS more times in the last week, than whole life combined...

>>50391693

tell me about it, no one seems to even know if third party stores sell pre orders on black friday REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50391424
Knights are separated faction, if you want D to your SM you need to have 2 detachments one for SM one for knights, or they can take thunderhawk for 780pts
Dark Eldar well they are fucked.
Nids and genestealers fucked.
Csm 888 lord of skulls, or allied daemons witch Dthirster.
Orks they need to take FUCKING STOMPA to get meele D!

>>50391693

Just order one of everything for now, work out the rest later.

The only risky one is Temmies being shit, and even then, they look cool enough that who fucks a shit?

>>50391717
>>50391693
Guys, its not even up for preorder yet. We don't get leaks this early. Wait till someone gets their shit early. expect them mid next week

>>50391665
The rubric needed a lot of sorcerers to pull it off, it wasn't just Ahriman, now, if Ahriman get's a formation with more sorcerers to pull it off, that's fine by me.

>>50391717
>Visited Faeit212 and BoLS
Utter shit for leaks. Both of them just pushed a dark angels leak that was obvious bullshit to the point where the guy that started it had already apologised.

>15th primarch comes out first

I'm triggered.

>>50391708
They don't have access to telekinesis or divination though.

Possible they'd just expand their access to those I guess

>>50391740

I'm not worried about Termis being shit; I'll buy some anyway because they look cool. I'm not even worried about any of the units being shit.

What I'm worried about is that I'll pay $70CAD for a box of shit I didn't need and won't ever use, because I bought too many Rubrics to use in a reasonably-sized game. Or that I end up with too many HQs or not enough weapons or something. Or that I end up with something that can't even be played as a CAD or whatever their Formation ends up being. Stuff like that.

I know for a fact I will be ordering 1000 points worth of Thousand Sons but I don't know which book(s) I'll need to go with it or even what 1000 points of Thousand Sons looks like on the table. etc etc

>>50391733
>Csm 888 lord of skulls, or allied daemons witch Dthirster.
What about warhound Titans? Double barreled turbo lasers?

>>50391740
Termies are always shit to much AP2.

>>50391765
>Possible they'd just expand their access to those I guess
yes. Pretty sure there was even something official somewhere that said as much

Would Tau be as reviled if they'd been in since 1st edition?

>>50391758

Best places for leaks are here (when proofs happen) or... Dakkadakka, sadly.

>>50391762

Fuck The Lion

>>50391777
My mistake, it was a Razial rumour drop that included the "CSM Sorcerers gain access to all rulebook powers"

>>50391733
csm has knights as low choice
sm has knights as low choice
eeeeeeeeeeeverything has knights as low choice

well ok DE doesnt but who cares they fuck babies

>>50391776

>Ap 3 bolters + ML2 sorcerer + 4++ and 2 heavy weapons per 5

These ones could be pretty rad if they aren't costed into oblivion.

>>50391770

1000p yea thats like 2 boxes, youre good

>>50391787

He seems okay.

Knightly green dude.

Not really heard anything particularly memorable about him but hey.

>>50391815

They're going to be, because

>Ap 3 bolters + ML2 sorcerer + 4++ and 2 heavy weapons per 5

is incredibly good. Some units deserve to be expensive. See also: Death Company. High stakes high reward.

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I-is there any hope for plastic plague marines?

Glad to see GW do justice to one of the most interesting legions

>>50391846
Traitor Legion supplement right after.

>>50391834
Are death company really high reward sure they have feel no pain and relentless but i mean other than that they are just normal marines and the feel no pain isnt going to save that many of them on the battlefield.

any difference between the battle for vedros bikes and the mainline bikes?

>>50391846
>>50391846

Long term, sure.>>50391846
>11/25/16(Fri)19:19:43 No.50391846
>>50391846

>>50391801
Sm Low choice is Calgar, Dante and Seth(Blood Angels), Azrael(Dark Angels), Draigo(GK).If they(and almost all imperial forces) want do get night they must get allied detachment of imperial knights.
You also forgot nids, genestealers and orks.

>>50391846

Not till we get a Death Guard update like 1k Sons are getting now.

Luckily they're fairly easy to make with green stuff, regular CSM and gumption.

I just want more Death Guard fluff in general. They seem largely forgotten beyond being "The Nurgle Legion".

>>50391864
blue plastic

>>50391833

Lion is known for a meme calling him a traitor for half his legion turning on him and that's exactly all.

Whatever, Primarchs have never really been an interesting part of the setting.

>>50391857

FNP, Furious Charge, Rage and Relentless.

Stick jump packs on them, stick a chaplain or sangpriest into their unit, watch them chop anything they touch to gibs.

>>50391904
they also have 2 or three base attacks and are fearless

>>50391857
They are pretty shit. Wulfen do their job much better.

>>50391929
Fearless is more of a negative when it comes to space marines.

CONFIRMED by the usual sources:

The first Primarch to come back will be Sanguinius, having faked his death to live out his true passion of being a stage magician under the name The Great Sanguini.

>>50391904
Hmm i never thought of shoving jump packs on em as it puts em in a position to be shot to bits before they get to charge in.

>>50391945
This is the only thing i could ever hope for. i miss space jesus daddy

>>50391958
He died for our sins.

>>50391958
me too, i want him back
>>50391980
so did jesus and he came back, too

>>50391980
>>50391989

The only man who died for my sins was Optimus Prime.

;_; 'Till all are one.

>>50391989
That's why the sanguinor exists.

>>50391989
>>50391980
How long till Sanguinala ;_;

>>50392008
Him too. Legit one of my heroes growing up and why injustice pisses me off.

>>50392010

Emprah the father, Sanguinius the son and Sanguinor the Holy Spurt.

>>50392010
sanguinor should get primatch stats and be confirmed as manifested soul of Sanguinius.
If that doesnt happen, then i hope that the black rage is just sanguinius soul trying to find a new body
>>50392029
less than a month

>>50392037
I dont know the black rage special rule makes it look like its just a trashy thing that doesnt do much.

>>50392008

How would the Cybertronians, their ten million year war, planet sized robot devil and the weird law-squids who built Cybertron fare in the 40k setting?

>>50391873

Death Guard have more aspects than nurgle that GW could easily expand on:
1) chemical warfare
Give them chem munition rules in 40k

2) scorched earth
Give them phosphex in 40k, just because a "loyal" Magos destroyed the phosphex STC on mars doesn't mean the hereteks don't still have lots of the stuff

3) mostly infantry
formations represent this easily enough

4) fight in conditions extreme even for space marines
poison/rad resistance? void hardened for outer space scenarios? army-wide move through cover?

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I'm having a spot of trouble deciding whether to be a good goy or not. Can anybody vouch for quality?
The totals are from MaxMini, Kromlech and Evil Craft.
68, 64 and 179 €.

>>50392071

Chemical warfare would be great. Template weapons everywhere, 3+ poison.

>>50392071
yes pls

Any leaks for WoM or TL?

>>50390297
Kill the markerlights you pleb

>>50390105
Wolves to get BTFO and become a fleet-based chapter.

>Magnus let slip a wry smile
>Truly, there were no wolves on Fenris.

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Guys, can I get ten-ish responses to this post pretending Orks are a T1 army that should be nerfed, with a recent run of tournament to tournament victories in competitive and casual play is making people angry...

I just want to feel good about my army for once.

>>50392075
How many different armies is all that for? To answer your question they are all of really great quality though, Kromlech especially have good customer service as well in the unlikely chance that something goes wrong with your order.

>>50392228

This one time, I got blitzed so hard my brigade is still spinning.

It was pretty rough, but I guess there's no point getting my Nobz in a 'Naut about it.

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>>50392255
It's for my mad unplayable Chaos Space Marines/Dark Mechanicus project that I've been shitposting about recently.
Shit's adding up, but I want to diversify the look of them a little.

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Long break from the game, coming back in.

I see they made Genestealer Cults now, pretty stoked to try them. So truthfully;

>Will it be total shit to play
>Does anyone have a good army list, I don't care if it's super competitive but at least where I don't remove my army by turn 2

>>50392313
>will it be totally shit to play
Most brokenly powerful army in the game, basically every choice works
>Does anyone have a good army list
See above, use formations for infinite troops with special/heavy weapons

>>50392071
At time of Siege of Terra all Death Guard became Plague Marines, except of course loyalist and blackshields. Papa Nurgle don't like phospex(too much flames, no rot), and they should take some nurgle infested plague flamers(poison instead of flame). All they were during Great Crusade is lost(same as Emperor's Children).

>>50391141
I was looking earlier, and Wayland specifically states their discounts don't apply to pre-orders. I've not found anywhere to get anything in general.

>>50392228

I really hope they nerf Orks. My all-Wraith Eldar just don't stand a chance against that many bodies and that ridiculous degree of rate of fire. Those Blitz Brigade T1 charges really get me, every time.

The other day this dick brought 10 Nobz in a Naut combos and I was done for. Might as well have just conceded turn 1. Like what the hell GW?

>>50392313

Are you shitposting m8? Seriously can't tell.

You might as well be saying "hey guys how are those new Riptides I've heard so much about? I want to run a Riptide Wing but I'm worried I'll lose to Tyranids :( :( :("

>>50392370

They'd probably have a decent stockpile of pre-heresy phosphex, though. The Death Guard's pre-heresy doctrine was scorched earth.

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>>50392373

>nerf orks

>>50392334
>Most brokenly powerful army in the game, basically every choice works
Aberrants too?

>>50392421

>Too lazy to read reply chain

Come on m8

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>>50392228
i've heard about warbosses punching well above their own weight but haven't seen it in person, have this picture for your troubles

>>50392425
They're expensive, but they're good at anti-vehicle work, and not much of the rest of the codex is (besides the other vehicles and short-range lascannons).

>>50392228
Nobs is a naut' is such a fucking bullshit tactic, nerfs when?!

Seriously. It's got space for six Orks inside and, as we all know, six Orks have the poternial to do a lot of damage. Filled with Nobz, who can stay safely side up to the last moment before piling into combat, useful for holding up enemy units you don't want getting in to combat with the Gorkanaut.

The first thing to note is that it's a very resilient walkers, with plenty of Hull points and nice high armour values to keep it alive as it steams accross the battlefield.
Festooned with highly-destructive weapons and all impervious to the most powerful enemy munitions. No self-respecting Ork Warboss would go in to battle without one - or, indeed, outside one, as the Gorkanaut also serves as an impregnable battlefield transport!

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>>50392313

Genestealer Cults is actually a pretty good army.

>special ambush rules
>success on ambush test = free round of pinning shooting or infiltrating within 3" and charging immediately, depending on exact roll

>can re-enter reserves and ambush again if no enemies are nearby, like Finns in flames of war

>genestealers now have stealth, agility saves and a bonus attack, same points cost as before

>regular cultists are guardsmen with low tech weapons like a mining laser drill modified to be a short-range lascannon

>armored-up mining vehicles for your open topped transporting needs

>also have access to common guard vehicles

>hybrid acolytes are very cheap in points but having rending claws and can spam demolitions weapons and hand flamers

>all HQs have 12" psychic auras giving special rules to nearby minions

>tyranids with telepathy

>automatically pass look out sir, even in challenges, aka your HQs are always the last to die

>everything costs hardly any points and has hardly any armor, gravfags BTFO

>can infiltrate the entire army if you run your decurion
>units that already have infiltrate(purestrain genestealers, anything with a cult leader attached) become shrouded on the first turn

Memestealer Cults are the new hotness.

>>50392497
>But this is no mere, they changed chemical weapon for plague.

You can still use The Purge detachment to give your flamers chem munitions.

>>50391780
No, obviously. But oldfags see roses.

With Battle for Vedros finally getting sold outside of the US, how long untill small children start walking into game stores with snapfit ultramarines?

What's the youngest 40k player you've seen, /tg/?

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>Only just realised i had preordered DW on steam in Sept
>Missed out on months of Closed beta
Goddamn it

>>50392726
probably myself, at seven

When I worked for workshop there were a decent number of kids, but I never cared enough to find out their ages.

>>50392743
the fps game? the beta just came out a few days ago, closed beta has nothing to do with you preordering. you had to be lucky to get into the nda version, and even that only lasted a week or so.

>>50392726
12-13 fucker painted great minis, never had a full army but bits and pieces here and he could never finish a game.

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>>50392770
Oh in that case i'm not too annoyed
I know what i'm doing Sat night then

>>50392228
It depends on how you run them and what you play against.
The Ork player at my FLGS smashed the pure knight player in an 2500 point game.

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Tzeentch is the God of change and schemes.

A universe consumed by chaos is binary state. Everyone loses and are either dead, driven mad, or are being raped by daemons 24/7/365. There is very little if ANY room for change in this new domain, much less any scheming.

Therefore, a universe wherein Tzeentch wins is the worst possible outcome for Tzeentch.

A universe where everything is always on the brink of going to shit, sometimes getting better only to get much much worse shortly afterward, however, is exactly the situation the Tzeentch wants to lord over.

There is room for change. There is room for plotting, ambition, and backstabbing.

The same cannot be said in a galaxy where chaos wins.

Tzeentch, the great DECEIVER, is one of humanity's greatest hopes for survival. He fights a guerilla war with both humanity and his own brothers, constantly playing everyone against each other, just as likely to help someone as he is to completely dick them over.

Tzeentch's end goal is not to win. Winning means that Tzeentch's grand game comes to an end.

TL;DR Tzeentch is in it for the lulz, and in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, that means he's the closest thing humanity has to a benevolent deity.

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Which 40k news sites/reviewers are worth following lads?

>>50392796
I wonder which director of communications told them to power stance.

How many hours till new zealand pre comes out?

>>50392829
[Citation Needed]

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>>50392833
He probably killed himself with multiple bullets wounds in the back

>>50392157
>not the Lion BTFO Magnus with his true name
Anon pls

>>50392856

pre comes u say

>>50390054
What box are Abberrants in?

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>>50392826
>2500 point game

In lore isn't everything going to plan for chaos even when they lose?
>emperor gets energy to make primarchs from chaos gods, primarchs turn and take down the empire
>fueled by emotion, so no reason to actually win the war
>all they need to do is fight an endless war of passion, getting every side to attack the other to generate more emotion
>if they destroy the imperium, they destroy the largest source of positive emotions
>if they lose, there is no more war to fuel emotion
>it's in their best interest to keep a stalemate

>>50392925
DW:OK

>>50392925
The Deathwatch: Overkill game. Other than that, Ebay. They aren't available as a separate kit.

>>50392944
Its Chaos, self-destruction is one of their desires as is feasting on the souls of mortals for all eternity.

Chaos doesnt win or lose, its chaos, it just is.

>>50392928
2000-2500 is where it's at.

>>50392829
All the gods are both driven and enslaved by their ambitions and essence.

In Eye of Terror there's a bit where a Lord of Change and a Bloodthirster pit their armies against one another, and the Lord of Change knows that deep down the Bloodthirster doesn't want to win, because defeating an opponent will mean no more bloodshed and that's all he exists for.

In Pawns of Chaos the protagonist uses his connection to a Lord of Change to stop it from destroying an Imperial fleet because the horrors they'd be subjected to if they would be swallowed up by a Warp storm is too much for him to imagine. Afterwards Tzeentch appears to him and is rather amused by how things turned out and even comments that he loves a traitor, even one that betrays him, because nothing stirs the pot quite like betrayal.

>>50392928
Okay?

>>50392991
Yea becasue nothing is broken at that point level because you just take tons of things to counter it.

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Reposting my prospective deathwatch list, seeking assistance and guidance on playing deathwatch.

1850

Black spear detachment
Command-
ven dreadnought - missile and tl lascannon, extra armor

Core
Furor kill team (template death)
4x frag cannons, 1x terminator heavy flamer and melta fist, 5x shotguns
-land raider redeemer as transport with multi melta

Purgatus kill team
Librarian Ml2 w/bolter, tower shield relic, 8x vets with stalker bolters, 1x terminator w/cyclone missiles

Aux-
Corvus blackstar- asscans, missiles, halo kauncher

Allied Imperial Fists

ML2 Librarian w bones of osrak
5x tactical marines w heavy bolter
5x devastators w 4x lascannons
Imperial bastion with void shields, icarus quadcannon, tanglewire

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>tfw can't decide on my KdK warband scheme
I was thinking of one, but then I realized that the characters would end up looking like Black Legion.

The plan was that the higher ranked you were the more black you'd have on you, but then I realized the afore-mentioned Black Legion problem.

I could do Iron Warriors as well, but I dunno.

>>50391786
>Best places for leaks are here (when proofs happen) or... Dakkadakka, sadly.
It's amazing because this is true. A 4chan board is more useful to the community than clickbait sites, who knew?

>>50393104
Invert it. Mostly black with red scheme, higher up you are the more red you have on you.

>>50392228
Orks are one of the strongest armies in the right hands
Lootas are good, everyone knows that, but attacking warbosses on bikes to deffkoptas? That's deadly shit
And don't get me started on simply spamming walkers, taking the mega kustom force field, cheap 3 man meganobs in trucks for days.
A true ork mob is a force to be reckoned with.
And don't none of ya gits forget it

>>50392833
>Which 40k news sites/reviewers are worth following lads?
Literally here and dakka dakka.
Everything else is clickbat and shit

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>>50393125
Yeah, I could do that. The theme I was going for was that they modeled their armor after the Daemons they fought alongside, with the lesser daemons having mostly red skin, and the greater daemons being black with red armor, sort of like how the Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury is on GW's website.

New Zealand orders up.

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Please be honest, how bad is my list ? I am not really good with writing lists, but this is my 2k points army, which i plan to buy at the end of this year
HQ (115pts)

Tech-Priest Dominus (115pts) Conversion field (5pts), Phosphor serpenta (5pts), Volkite blaster

Elites (270pts)

Corpuscarii Electro-Priests (90pts) 5x Corpuscarii Electro-Priest 90pts

Fulgurite Electro-Priests (180pts) 10x Fulgurite Electro-Priest 180pts

Troops 630pts

Kataphron Breachers 150pts)
Kataphron Breacher 50pts) [Arc claw, Heavy arc rifle
Kataphron Breacher 50pts) [Arc claw, Torsion cannon
Kataphron Breacher 50pts) [Arc claw, Heavy arc rifle

Kataphron Breachers 150pts
Kataphron Breacher 50pts) [Arc claw, Heavy arc rifle
Kataphron Breacher 50pts) [Arc claw, Torsion cannon
Kataphron Breacher 50pts) [Arc claw, Heavy arc rifle

Kataphron Destroyers (165pts)
Kataphron Destroyer (55pts) [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster
Kataphron Destroyer (55pts) [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster
Kataphron Destroyer (55pts) [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster

Kataphron Destroyer (55pts) [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster
Kataphron Destroyer (55pts) [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster
Kataphron Destroyer (55pts) [Heavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster

Heavy Support (900pts)

Kastelan Robot Maniple (300pts)
Cybernetica Datasmith (50pts) [Refractor field]
Kastelan Robot (125pts) [Heavy phosphor blaster (5pts), Two power fists]
Kastelan Robot (125pts) [Heavy phosphor blaster (5pts), Two power fists]

Kastelan Robot Maniple (300pts)
Cybernetica Datasmith (50pts) [Refractor field]
Kastelan Robot (125pts) [Heavy phosphor blaster (5pts), Two power fists]
Kastelan Robot (125pts) [Heavy phosphor blaster (5pts), Two power fists]

Kastelan Robot Maniple (300pts)
Cybernetica Datasmith (50pts) [Refractor field]
Kastelan Robot (125pts) [Heavy phosphor blaster (5pts), Two power fists]
Kastelan Robot (125pts) [Heavy phosphor blaster (5pts), Two power fists]

Vengeance Weapons Battery (85pts) with battle cannon

>>50393221
>50393221

For variety? Fuck awful. Ally some goddamn skittles, drop the electropriests and a lot of the redundancy.

>>50392228
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96793715/Codex%20Orks%20Rewrite%20Ver%203/Codex%20Orks%20Rewrite%20Ver%203.0.6.pdf
Is this any good? I've never played a game of 40k so would someone experienced in the rules tell me whether this is better or worse and how?

>>50393221
Electro priests are squishy and if you want them to be useful you should probably beef up those unit sizes.

In meta gaems, Destroyers are head and shoulders better than Breachers.

But the list looks fine. As long as you're not up against a netlisting WAAC faggot you should be fine.

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>>50393197
Thanks lad

>>50393243
well, my army really does lack some variety, thats true....

Anyway, how do i ally with with skittles, i thought they dont have HQ`s. do they have some kind of special ally contingent that doesnt need an HQ ?

>>50393256
dont worry, i rarely play against waac fags. Last time i played against one i beat him with a crap list because he forgot almost everything

>>50393221
That is stupidly dull to play with and against. Run your robots with dual phosphor, for one thing, and no more than 1 unit of them. Ditch the Breachers and replace with Skitarii Vanguard with Arc Rifles, and in fact add lots of Vanguard and some Dunecrawlers, at least. A couple Dragoons might add some variety, and NO ELECTROPRIESTS, for Omnissiah's sake.

>>50393277

Ally in a Skitarii Maniple, so 2 troops and no HQ mandatory as their CAD variant. Run your Cult Mech as a Battle Congregation, too, reusing Shroudpsalm is a Machine Godsend.

Maybe toss in a Knight Warden or Paladin to smack things with D when required, as well.

>>50393296
i dont really like knights, but i may do the other things you suggested
why should i ditch the electropriests ? my meta isnt that waac faggy, so they may still have some uses. Well, maybe, i dont know how bad they are exactly

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Is there any change between the 6th Tyranids codex and whatever it is that now includes the Haruspex etc? Except the new units and formations

>>50393315
They die like guardsmen to nearly anything, move like them too, and you have no transports for them. I would consider them if they were literally half the price, but ATM they are the worst admech unit bar none.

One tac squad can kill them handily with bolters. If you want taser melee, use Sicarian Infiltrators in 5-squads or teams of 2/3 Dragoons, it will work out better in every way.

>>50393354
you convinced me, i wont take them.
well maybe i`ll use their bits for basing or i use them when i want my enemy to win

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>>50392726
>>50392753

>mfw the 40k community gets flooded with newfags playing unpainted blue plastic Vedros smurf armies
>mfw Traitor Legions gets released with rules for Word Bearers in 40k

>>50393390
Oh, I will not deny they look awesome. Once you have a substantial admech collection consider grabbing a 5-man of each type for the Cohort Mechanicus, an awesome 2500-3k point superarmy that will make you feel like the avatar of the Omnissiah in large games.

Up til then, though, avoid.

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>>50392228
I have seen a mob of footslogging Slugga Boyz kill a Riptide - in shooting.

I have seen a Warboss fight a Knight Titan an emerge victorious without losing a single wound.

I have seen an army based on Trukk Boyz defeat an Eldar army with a Wraith Host and scatter bikes.

I have seen Abaddon, in second turn, lose a challenge to a Runtherd.

I have seen an Ork Dreadnought, that destroyed a Land Raider and its Terminators, survive to the end of the game.

I have seen a squad of Warp Spiders run off the board, after having been shot at by Stormboyz.

One of these is true.

>>50393430
Like tearz in da rain it wuz.

Newfag here. I've been playing a few months, and built up almost exactly a WarConvo sans Knight.

My army is now a bit big for the cardboard box approach, so what kind of carry cases to you guys use and where do you get them?

>>50393338
No

>>50393450
More than one cardboard box.

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Should i put trench rails on my krieg leman russ, or instead put more stuff like crates/radios and other shit like that?

Kiwi pre-orders are up

>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Warzone-Fenris-Wrath-of-Magnus-Limited-Edition
Beautiful.

>>50393425
sure, at least theyl be fancy meatshields that way

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>>50393449
Toime ta doi.

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>>50393450
>>50393524
>not buying the official Citadel ® Crusade Figure Case ©
What are you, poor?

>>50393559
Well I mean, if they're shooting at the electro priests, that means they're not shooting at important shit, r-right?

>>50393547

New datasheets, special rules and wargear for:
- Magnus the Red
- Ahriman
- Exalted Sorcerer
- Tzaangors
- Rubric Marines
- Scarab Occult Terminators

6 Formations for Codex: Chaos Space Marines:
- War Cabal
- War Coven
- Tzaangor Warherd
- Sekhmet Conclave
- Ahriman’s Exiles
- Rehati War Sect

Plus new and updated psychic disciplines:
- an updated Discipline of Tzeentch
- Sinistrum Discipline
- Heretech Discipline
- Ectomancy Discipline
- Geomortis Discipline

Thousand Sons special rules:
- 6 Thousand Sons Warlord Traits
- Chaos Artefacts of the Thousand Sons
- Thousand Sons Grand Coven Detachment
- 6 Thousand Sons Tactical Objectives
- 3 Thousand Sons Altar of War missions

New datasheets, special rules and wargear for:
- Pink Horrors
- Blue Horrors
- Brimstone Horrors

4 Formations for Codex: Chaos Daemons:
- Lorestealer Host
- Brimstone Conflagration
- Omniscient Oracles
- Heralds Anarchic

Plus new and updated daemonic loci and icons of Chaos.

Daemons of Tzeentch special rules:
- Tzeentchian Warp Storm table
- Pandemoniad of Tzeentch Detachment
- 6 Daemons of Tzeentch Tactical Objectives
- 3 Daemons of Tzeentch Altar of War missions

>>50392485
Who has that pic saved? You know which one I'm talking about. With the words an shit all bold.

>>50393399
chaos players lost their right to be smug after the past few years of autistic bitching

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>>50393589

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>>50393450
>>50393524
Random boxes.

>>50392228
Took a Kustom Stompa against my friend's WraithTaudar the other day. I know, I know, I'm a dick, but he (literally) asked for it: he said he wanted to see how his best list would hold up against the T0 faction's best, as near as I could optimize them.

Poor bastard only had 3 Riptide Wings, 3 WKs, & Wraithguard to back up his Tau'nar & Phantom Titan.

Utter slaughter. Da Boyz just kept coming & chewed through his pathetic troops with Choppa attacks like they were made for it. Swear to Gork, I even took it easy and ran some Biker Nobz, and while he had a decent defensive setup for his hover tanks, they just made all their invuln saves and were a mobile power Klaw blender. Even goddamned Biker Nobz are silly for their points now.

His last few Warriors fell when the Kustom Stompa's Belly Gun wiped out their cover and the Big Shootas did the rest. The Taunar just couldn't handle two Orkanauts--their Waaagh! bonus and shared KFF made a joke of his anti-SH weapons. One round of combat was all it took.

The Riptides put up a good fight and put some hurt on my Lootas, but I'll be damned if 7" D-blasts on each arm on the Stompa didn't usher them out before their time.

He would have been mad if I hadn't taken Ghazghkull, but he didn't think ignoring "removes from play" and charging out of Da Jump deepstrike would be that big a deal until it mopped up two of his WKs--jump MCs just can't get away from Waaagh! fast enough.

For all this, the exchange I felt the worst about was when Old Zogwort squigged his Phantom. I know they aren't what they used to be (dime a dozen on eBay, and that's *BEFORE* cheap Dutchman resin), but 1800 points really ought to have options against a single HQ's spells.

Just...man, I wanted all the good rules & characters back, but I never asked for this. He was so buttblasted by the end of it he was talking about just quitting the army altogether and starting a Nids force--EW on Beast MCs and fearless Gaun swarms tmight have stood a chance.

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There, I fixed it.

>love Tzeentch-themed stuff
>don't play 1KSons
Conversion city. I reckon I'll get one box of each new release, Ahriman for the disc (gonna give away the actual dustbringer to some newbie) and skip Magnus.

>>50393253
This was one of the books that inspired me to KISS; I felt drowned in options & its bloated as hell with unique single models & single-unit rules.

>>50393586
I'm gonna throw in a contrary opinion on the Electro-Priests. Corpuscarii ones aren't half-bad. A 5+ Invulnerable save and FNP means they can stand up to small arms fire better than their profile suggests, and you can use Shroudpsalm to give them a pretty beefy cover save for a critical turn or two. And if they do close to within 12" of the enemy, the amount of St4 hits they can pile onto a target is absurd. Even if most of the squad gets mauled, a handful can still do a lot of damage to enemy infantry before going down.

I've run a unit of ten every time I've played Admech, and they've rarely been so bad that I've regretted bringing them.

>>50393700
>primarchs being less than fifty feet tall
something something truescale something

>>50392064
Powerful enough to defend themselves, but never make meaningful progress beyond their home system due to limited numbers and perpetual civil wars.

>>50393575
Most of my army is paperhammer.

>>50393818
That was the joke, guv. No offense meant.

>>50393588

>play Tzeentch since 5th and love Thousand Sons
>have played Sisters longer
>have money saved for Sisters
>now all this shit drops

Fucking kill me please. I can't deal with not being able to afford this shit.

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>>50392283
>>50392373
>>50392482
>>50392485
>>50392826
>>50393172
>>50393253
>>50393430
>>50393640

You bunch of gitz, made this Boy feel proud for a moment.

>>50393776

He's still head and shoulders taller than a regular Daemon prince, and much fancier looking.

2 points extra strength and toughness too.

I just figure that at some point during the design process, they failed to keep it in their pants and overscaled him about 25%.

And yes: Magnus can change his size! The larger one works fine for if he has Iron Arm cast! Just... Bad for default.

>>50393588

>an updated Discipline of Tzeentch
It's about time. Even if it's not as OP as those rumors, anything is an improvement over getting a variable strength havoc launcher with soulblaze as the primaris power

I'll take a guess on the formations:

>War Cabal
obligatory demi-company

>War Coven
Chaos version of Librarius conclave

>Tzaangor Warherd
obligatory cultist horde

>Sekhmet Conclave
>Rehati War Sect

Auxiliary formations, probably incorporating terminators, dreadnoughts, daemon engines, since they are referred to as "conclave and "sect" they will probably require an exalted sorcerer to lead them

>Ahriman’s Exiles
special formation for Ahriman, duh

>Grand Coven
Thousand Sons gladius equivalent, with some sort of bonus to saving throws(see Magnus rules preview)

>Lorestealer Host
mixed formation of Tzeentch daemons, "lorestealer" implies they can copy psychic powers or drain warp dice from the enemy?

>Brimstone Conflagration
swarms! may also contain flamers/burning chariots

>Omniscient Oracles
>Heralds Anarchic
names imply Lord of Change and Herald of Tzeentch, respectively. This is the likely location of Daemon Princes and Screamers respectively.

>Pandemoniad of Tzeentch Detachment
decurion for daemons, tzeentch only

>Chaos Artefacts of the Thousand Sons
>Tzeentchian Warp Storm table
will be fun, expect some really weird stuff

Tzeentch Daemons already have their own artifacts and warlord traits from the previous Fenris book so they aren't missing out in that respect.

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>>50393776
>>50393804
Wrath of Magnus set on the AU Games Workshop. 900 dollydoos.

>>50393873
I know and agree. Was being sarcastic.

For some people, having primarchs be less than the size of a semi is just plain unbelievable.

>>50393878
How much is that in real money?

>>50393926
Probably about $600US

>>50393873
>>50393914
Nah. Magnus is really the only Primarch who they can go completely mental on design-wise, because it's a demigodmanking that is also a daemon prince, so it does make sense that he's the old featherfiend's golden boy and he's given a ludicrous stature as well as abilites.

-Will Fenris burn and get destroyed?
-There is yet hope.

>>50393878
>900 dollarydoos
Being an Ausfag this could be memery and unadulterated truth at the same time
>whales would still buy it

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>>50393877
>warcoven

not sure about that, usually a book only gets 1 decurion. the warcoven is also the name of 2 old apoc formations

Buy the story of the T-Sons revenge that is focused on the T-Sons and watch them be utterly cock blocked!

You too can own Chaos dedicated stories that detail their humiliating defeat

>>50393961

I only genuinely have a problem with it because he's so big that, whilst he'll look amazing painted up in a cabinet, he makes the rest of his army look like ants next to him. Scales poorly not so much because of his own merits, but because it was pushed so far it poorly fits the rest of the range.

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>tfw GW will never release any Dark Mechanicus sprues as optional assembly for future AdMech releases even though it has loads of support fluff-wise and people seem to like the concept
>tfw only Forge World will even get close, and buying a small pistol costs the ten-year budget of Finland
Only choice left is to either start modelling myself, or contract that shit to others.

>>50393872
I've got a game lined up tomorrow vs some Tau.
I think my ladz have a winning list so I'll so I'm post some pictures of it here tomorrow.

I came SO close to beating them the past two times, I'm pretty confidant I'm going to get him this time!

>>50393990

>usually a book only gets 1 decurion

>what are the Damocles books

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Sometimes the best ideas are the simplest.

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What are your thoughts on Space Hulk: Deathwing?
I'm hoping for it to be at least as good as Space Marine, maybe even better.

>>50394026
i meant the initial book gets 1 decurion, not the stuff that follows

>>50393990
>they were too lazy to paint a fresh CSM Sorcerer so they just reused the one they used for prod shots

>>50394050
total shit.

the solo experience might be okay, but its also non-randomized, so you'll only bother with it once.

the coop is awful. Not only do you respawn out of thin air 20 seconds or so after you die, but theres no customization, no randomization, and your levels reset every game, since they wanted to go for a 'moba experience.' They basically showed how tacked on coop is. And without it, their game will be dead real soon. A lot of people expected coop l4d/vermintide in 40k, but this isn't that at all.

>>50394050
I'm hoping its a game my wife can play on her laptop so I can get her even more into the 40K universe.

>>50394050
I played the Beta. Meaning I preordered. But I also have a 3000pt Deathwing army so take my opinion with a fat grain of salt.

It's fucking awesome. Stomping through some very nicely detailed interiors, killing Xenos and purging shit. Although I still wish the Stormbolters sounded meatier.

>>50392726
Myself, age 5.

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>>50394095
>laptop

>>50393097
That list looks pretty good, man. Would play.

>>50394050

I like the first person thing, though playing as a Terminator is kinda meh imo.

I'd rather see a first person 40k game be something like Dark Heresy meets Fallout New Vegas, where you have to go around a few different planets doing merc work, fighting mutants, starting out with just a laspistol and a shotgun and having to acquire your power armor, plasma gun and the rest, through hard work, powerful allies and the black market.

It would be great to see the 40k universe from the eyes of just an ordinary human, is what I'm saying. You aren't a superman, everything is scarier than you and you're pretty much dead(or worse) if you ever have to fight a Chaos Space Marine or a Genestealer Patriarch.

>>50393097
Spend that 160 on a better command.

>>50394063
At least they didn't just copy-paste one of them a couple times like they did for the Cyclopia Cabal.

>>50394155
Let's play what if.

What if there was a game in the style of VtM:B in which you played an Inquisitor or even a rogue psyker in a lovingly rendered, detailed segment of a hive world.

>>50394155
>It would be great to see the 40k universe from the eyes of just an ordinary human

No, thats pretty much the most boring thing I can imagine.

Why invent a crazy fucking universe just to be the same shit human you are in real life, there.

Its like saying "I wish superheroes existed and I was a bystander watching them do these amazing things". No one fucking says that, they want to be the superhero.

>>50394050
Meh.
Shooter a shit.

>>50394155
Can I join the AdMech?

>>50394215

And yet over and over and over, idiots focus on the humans in sci-fi and fantasy settings.

>>50394034
>Ogryns lugging around torsion cannons
That's rather terrifying.

>>50390297
I thought that was a videogame rendering at first

Anyone know how long FW takes to ship to the states?

I'm trying to make my Overkill characters work in a real DW army.

Sofar I've made the DA wannabe sergeant into a librarian, but I'm wondering how to kit out the assault marines (2x LC and Chainsword/hand flamer) and whether the IH character's combi melta is worth using or if I should just leave the Anti-Tank to melta fisters/frag marines?

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>>50394215
humanity fuck yeah aside, lots of people like to focus on that aspect. personally i've been looking more into the civilian parts of the eldar. there's a horrifying angle in how they're aware of how bad things are in universe, how incompetent their farseers are, how much the universe wants to fuck them and etc

>>50394050
Its fun when it doesn't crash, hopefully they will get it fixed for launch.

So I hear that Sisters aren't an army any more.

>>50394357

They are located in the imperial agents book

>>50394243
>50394243
>>50394243
>50394243
>>50394243

>>50394357
You heard correct.

They've been downgraded from an army to one part of codex: imperial agents.

>>50393338
The Haruspex IS the 6th edition Codex.

>>50393990
Where did he say anything about more than one Decurion, especially in relation to the War Coven? He said "probably the Chaos version of Librarius Conclave" which is a Formation, and also fits that old Apoc Formation thematically.

Read gudder.

>>50393872
Can someone please explain this picture

>>50394654
https://youtu.be/zWH_9VRWn8Y?t=50s

>>50391424
Not IG really.

Also, I was gonna buy a Crusader, am I better off with a different model or is the minigun that good? Also, will I be killed and staked for running a Knight in 1500?

>>50393872
God damn that pic makes me sad because 'nauts are so damn nice models. God fucking damnit GW cant you make them small-scale Superheavy Walkers. 1-3 per LoW slot, wield separately but deploy at the same time. Maybe add +25-50pts to cost since they are much better as SHW. There. Orks have one more, "small" LoW choice which would rival Wraithknights in cost/effectiveness department.

>>50395105
Crusader kit comes with all the options to make every single knight (except renegade ones). Magnetising the weapons are piss-easy and there are retard-proof guides to do it. I know since I'm such a dumbass and still managed to do it.

Knigh Warden is actually most cost-effective knight there is. The Heavy 12 BRRRRT-weapon is very effective against everything.

>>50393990
Guard would like a word.

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>>50391185
>namefagging
>on an anonymous board

>>50394140
Well, neat. Thanks.
>>50394182
Yeah, maybe I'll shove in a captain or a chaplain with the furors. We'll see.