MTG LEGACY GENERAL

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>oops has been added.
Thread's dead boys. Pack it up, we had a nice run. Nothing good lasts forever I suppose.

>>50375784
>what legacy-related thing are you most thankful for?

I'm thankful that none of the retards on mtgsalvation, the source, Reddit, or even here are in charge of the reserved list, ban list, design, or development.

im also thankful for all of you in the comfiest general on /tg/

>>50375935
Don't worry we'we'll take it off for the next thread.

is that your doggo?

>>50375784
>What Legacy-related thing are you most thankful for?

I'm thankful that Price of Progress is a card. Also Dark Ritual, Hymn to Tourach, Sinkhole, Lion's Eye Diamond, the Dredge mechanic, Oath of Druids, and about half of the EDH decks I've made include Skithiryx, 15 God Enchantment, Narset Voltron, and Elves.

I guess you guys are alright too. I'll make a family tree tonight. Who wants to be included in it?

>>50376654
Put all the namefags should be whether they like it or not.

>>50375784
Im thankful mishra's bauble xploded in price and allowed this poorfag to get a playset of metalworker

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>>50376196
No, it's my pupper

>>50376654
>giving people a choice

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>>50375784
>What legacy-related thing are you most thankful for?
I'm thankful for Cockatrice, Untap and Xmage for making it possible to enjoy the format for free.
I'm thankful for Chalice on 1 turn one, and all the free wins it provides.

>>50376654
put me in, coach.

>>50375935
>>50376196
namefags pets edition?

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What do you guys think about aggro loam?
I really love jund and LFtL is one of my favorite cards

Posting again because I want to see the results of the poll after 24 hours on /tg/, and I'm getting some great insight on what makes a Blue player a Blue player.

What's your favorite color on the Magic Pie Chart, and Why?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11717375

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>>50376654
I don't know if anyone remembers me but I never left. I like hanging out here.

>>50377396
Looks like a good pupper.

>>50377452
I haven't had a dog in a few years and I don't have any pics of my last one on this phone.

>>50375784

>What legacy-related thing are you most thankful for?

I'm thankful Oops is in the OP.

I'm thankful for this >>50376026.

I'm thankful for my Blood Moons.

I'm thankful for this rocking thread on /tg/.

>>50377697

lol, "Colorless isn't a color" is beating Blue.

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>>50377452
namefags pets edition

>>50375784
I'm thankful of beating an eldrazi player with deathblade
I'm the only one who can have fun playing prision decks

Namefags were a mistake

>>50377888
Looks comfy.

>>50375784
I'm Thankful For Efficient Turn One Game Winning Combos

>>50375935
>>50376196
Please don't bully the oops deck or its pilots. We enjoy interacting with our opponents too.
Cabal Therapy

>>50377452
>I'm thankful for Cockatrice, Untap and Xmage for making it possible to enjoy the format for free.

100% this, made it a lot easier to figure out what I liked

I'm also thankful for the dudes at my game store for offering to let me borrow their decks on legacy night

And everyone in this thread for the fun times ;^)

>>50376026
I'm thankful there are actually rational people like this on /tg/. The RL isn't a bug; it's a feature to keep immature plebes out of this great format.

>>50377678
4c Loam is one of the best decks in Legacy and the reason it doesn't put up that many results is because it's a rather difficult deck to pilot and many of those who play it don't do so optimally. You would think it's a midrange value deck but it's actually a prison deck and if you're attacking with KotR when your opponent still has nonbasics on the field then you're doing something wrong. And that's what many pilots don't get about it.

Also, the Liliana build may have more raw power but it's objectively worse because the black in the deck is actually just a splash for Decay, so you don't want to be turning yourself from GWRb into GWRB, as it makes your already-stretched manabase even more strained.

>>50379347
Your trip changed. What for?

>>50380133
I had to retype my name/trip at some point and I forgot what I used the first time.

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>>50375784
Im thankful for maze of ith being printed.

Also, here is my kitty

Thankful that WotC doesn't listen to Modern refugees into this format with regards to bans.

>>50380638
Agreed

>>50380638
Ban Muslims

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>>50380638
I echo this sentiment.

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>>50381205
Hey now, that's not comfy.

Please try to be more halal.

>>50380583
Cute cat and nice taste in lands.

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bump

>>50384080
Nice translations. Can't even tell what the duck those are supposed to be.

>>50384144

I once saw "Empty the Warrens" translated as "Full Force from the Nest Hole."

Oh, yeah: thankful for my pooches. Wish I had some pics.

>>50381291

Wasn't most of Caracalla's disdain for his potential rivals?

>>50384144
I think

Atarka's command
Dragon fodder
????
stoke the flames

>>50384407
I'm sure most Roman emperors have expressed contempt for the common man at least once during their reign.

>>50379676
You have got to be kidding me. A starting hand without a Mox functions less than a mouthbreathing retard flailing around with hulk hands taped on by his tired mother.
If you draw a Mox, then you have a game, if you don't, well then you're just playing a bad deck that leans way too hard on Chalice to even remain competitive.

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Maybe you lads can help point me in the right direction. I need lands. Basic lands. A lot of basic lands. But not just any basics. I need NM Beta Swamp C. A pile of 14 (I'll need 26 before I'm done) were swiped off tcgplayer before I could put the order in and my other source has only a single altered copy in stock. Where do you boys gas up on lands?

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So everyone's been able to play cards that have just dominated the game, and I wouldn't be surprised if everyone's also been beaten by cards that caused a total blowout.

But what about all the other cards? Why don't they get a time to shine? I've got to know: what's /tg/leg/'s favorite objectively unplayable card?

I don't mean banned cards; I don't mean "playable in commander" stuff like Havoc Festival or Brago. I mean legitimately, irredeemably terrible cards.

Does it cost one more mana than the threshold of playability allows? Is its effect spectacular, but in a color that can't really capitalize on it? Have rules changes or improved design totally obsoleted it? Or is it a terrible vanilla 5/5 with an awesome name?

Pic related. He's high in the running.

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>>50385102
If pic related was cheaper to cast, say UU. at cmc 4 its shit. Even at UU i dont think it would be fantastic, but playable.

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>>50375784
>tfw Canadian and my thanksgiving passed already
Well anyways I'm thankful for the format in general, and this comfy place on /tg/.

>>50385102
Bad cards eh? Gideon, champion of justice of course.

god I fucking love how cancer the trip/name fags are on this thread, makes it more comfy

>>50385101
ebay, get an email every day when "mtg beta swamp" is posted

>>50385470
at UU that card would be pretty fucking strong.

What's the swaggiest language to get merfolk pimped out in?

>>50386395
Japanese or russian always best

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So how many of you guys actually own real cards? Pic related it's every RL card I own plus 3 playsets of FoW (ITA, GER, ENG)

>>50386395
KOREAN

>>50386395
Japanese
>>50386858
What's it like being the SOLE reason why 99% of players can't afford Legacy :^)

>>50386858
I own my miracles deck and about 6 other Duals but either than that not much

>>50386858
So what decks do you have built?

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>>50375784
I'm thankful for friendly legacy players that lend me cards
And the mechanic Dredge, and the entire Time Spiral block.
And my mum's pupper

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>>50386858
My whole deck is real. Here's a pic.

>>50387250
Miracles, Loam
>>50388620
The white border is a neat touch.

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>>50386858
all my cards are real, but I don't care if people use fakes.

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THANK YOU BASED MAILMAN

>>50391253
>Submerge

That's some old school tech right there. How often do you get people with it?

>>50392402
I thought it was at least known if not a common option. I haven't actually drawn it in a while, but the last time I played it was in the mirror in response to a fetch.

>>50392369
reanimator?

>>50392512
Yiss. Although there were supposed to be two Misty Rainforest showing up today. Will have to keep substituting with Flooded strands until they arrive.

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Mail also came today! Nothing expensive (I already have those ones.)

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Hi. Why the fuck is this card legal?

>>50392369
Get that fake shit outta here.

>>50394017
Why not? Its shit

>>50392369
where do u buy your fakes?

>>50394017
The shit format that is Modern thread is over here >>50376649

>>50394080
Reddit

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>>50394100
excuse me?

>>50394130
Just because a card is legal in Legacy doesn't mean it should be played. You're excused.

>>50394164
it shouldn't be played in modern, either. if anything, your weird disdain for anything that's not a tier 1 deck is what belongs in the modern thread.

>>50394221
I never said I didn't like it because it's not tier 1, quit putting words in my mouth.

>>50389949
Oh nice. Have pics?

>>50377768
no but you have a pretty kitty

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>>50394338
Here's the MD

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>>50394338
>>50394483
SB.
Make is a flex spot, occasionally it'll be a 2nd Mentor. Right now Sneak Show is making a comeback so I like MM better in that MU.

>>50385101
Get FBBs

>>50394483
>>50394608
Sup money. Can't say I appreciate the weeb accoutrements but you have some excellent aesthetics going on there.

>>50394483
The build looks a little scattered, and lol at triple sleeving.

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>>50394731
Gotta be beta swamp C my man. What are these FBBs you speak of anyway?

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>>50385102

The original Legends legends make me sad. They're all bursting with flavor, yet like two of them are playable and everything else is overcosted vanilla fatties.

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Boyz I love yall . I been drinking and wanted to let you all know

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Did someone say black border duress?

>>50394985
Hey, that's me!

<3

>>50394817
I've been on this hybrid Ponder/mini-Legends build for a while and it works fine. The triple sleeve is because the custom art sleeves are from Inked and aren't durable enough to be double sleeved. If they were like Hareruya art sleeves I wouldn't be triple sleeving :(

>>50395060
When are you going to get that final Usea?

>>50395476
You really think I need a third?

Legacy FNM round 1 report:
1-2 vs Aluren
I won game 1 easily as they don't have enough ways to interact and have to race. Game 2 I lost to unexpected Thailand and Meddling mage and couldn't find a wish for massacre before I died. Game 3 I misplaced and cost me the match. I duressed when he had 2 cards in hand and I knew 1, and he couldn't hardcase force. Should have pondered to find a 3rd black source or ritual to doomsday and go for the win. Next turn he combos me out.

>>50394025
>>50394080

how can you tell they're fakes from just that pic? by the condition?

>>50396329
Legacy FNM report round 2:
2-1 vs Elves
Game 1 is a race. Decks speeds are comparable but I got there turn 2 on the play. Game 2 I couldn't find business in time and got beat down. Game 3 I duressed a glimpse which bought me the turn I needed to find the goods to go off unopposed on turn 3.

>>50396641
They're not. Chinamen dont ship cards in ultra pro sleeves and top loaders

>>50396142
The one in the back looks fake.
>>50396641
The beveling around the corners are too rounded, a hallmark of Chinaman fakes.
>>50396746
Could have bought them off a guy that imports Chinaman fakes.

>>50396746
Those aren't top loaders; those are those soft sleeves. No one ships legit duals in those.

So i played legacy for the first time today, full proxy, 5 people turned up and i played doomsday.

Had the bye round one, played against miracles round two, won 2-1. I should have won g1 as well, as i probed looking for countermagic, didnt see any and dropped a lab man into swords without playing duress, because apparently i'm blind. Game 2 xantid swarm wrecked and he couldnt find counterbalance or removal for it. G3 a combination of heaps of discard and a decay got me a quick win.

Round 3 i was against my roommate on imperial painter. G1 he REB'd my lands in response to decay on painter, then i duress seeing a spirit guide and another painter and he topdecks a grindstone for the win. G2 i could have won through magus of the moon, but drew my infernal contract, so coudnt put it in the pile

>>50397084
could someone rewrite this post as a super-slick paragraph and a half that would captivate anon to look further into legasea

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>>50396899
It's just NM.

>>50397297
It wasn't the condition that was throwing me off, it was the white border at the top. The Chinese fakes are notorious for having a border that is wider than on real cards. Since it was obscured by the Usea in front that's all I had to go off of.

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>>50397405
Old cards are also notorious for having fucked up border proportions.

>>50397574
>Old cards are also notorious for having fucked up border proportions.
Old cards with black borders yes.

>>50396742
Legacy fnm report round 3:
1-2 vs reanimator. I lose round 1 to a quick griselbrand. Game 2 we grind but I am able to win. He has echoing truth but I am able to play through it. I will be posting a puzzle about this game later. GAME 3 we trade disruption and I wish for doomsday while he has just a lotus petal in hand and a hapless researcher on board, but pass the turn wit the kill next turn. He needs to find a reanimation spell and either sire or iona on his turn. He top decks brainstorm and draws reanimate and sire. I lose.

>>50397084
What's your board plan vs painter?

>>50397974
White border too. Its just less noticeable.

>>50394080
>>50394025
I bought these off tcgplayer, it was like an $800 order. Shit better not be fake

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>>50396329

>unexpected Thailand

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>>50385102
>But what about all the other cards? Why don't they get a time to shine? I've got to know: what's /tg/leg/'s favorite objectively unplayable card?

This nigga right here. He's the only legend in the game that reminds me (in terms of flavor) of the original Legends legendary creatures. No other modern Legend comes even close. If someone converted him into the old school border and modified the wording, nobody would even be able to tell the difference.

Great artwork, great flavor text, really strong metalcraft effect. Unfortunately, he's just not good because he costs 5.

Hi legacy general, I'm really new to legacy and have some questions about my deck. Is it better to play Blood Moon or Chalice on 1 on the first turn? How do I lay out my lands if I play the ones with panoramic images? (I play the Kamigawa ones)

>>50398679
Post scans. I know a fair bit about spotting fakes.
>>50399027
Chalice on 1 hoses more decks than a turn 1 Moon.

>>50398149
I brought in tropical, infernal contract and two decays (had two in main already), brought out a volcanic, a probe and some other things I can't remember. I'm always unsure of what to side out, I feel like all my cards are at a simlar power level. In my games I just took out bits and pieces, like one game I boarded out a ponder, a therapy, a probe and a wish.

Also, DDFT guy, heres a puzzle for you, and anyone else who wants to try, though no guarantee that it's actually beatable:

You are on 12 life. You have three untapped duals and a SDT. Your hand has: Lotus Petal, Dark Ritual, Doomsday, Infernal Contract, Lions Eye Diamond and Brainstorm. Your opponent has an untapped mountain, a Magus of the Moon, and you saw a Pyroblast in his hand from a probe earlier.

Could I have won that?

All in all though, it was a fun day. Gonna print out The Cure and maybe Dredge before the next session.

also played a round of Judge Destroyer, can confirm it makes people scoop

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>>50385102
Sweet flavor, solid effect backed up with evasion, sizable body, dope art by my main man Hamm, and completely unplayable everywhere forever.

>>50399489
Seems like you could but you need to post your list so we know what to work with.

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>>50399489
>Judge Destroyer
Hue, this meme deck never gets old. For the interested:

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?29732-Legacy-Judge-Destroyer-1-0

>>50399027

Chalice first against most things, but it depends a bit on the matchup. Delvers and Eldrazi, for instance, get hosed really hard by a T1 Blood Moon.

Both are backbreaking plays against a lot of decks, but there are some that don't really mind getting Mooned, or against which Moon does nothing (e.g., most monocolored decks like Death and Taxes and Merfolk). Fewer decks can beat a fast Chalice, though it's worth mentioning that other decks that run Chalice are hindered more by a Chalice on zero or two.

Note that neither does anything against Manaless Dredge, and that a lot of fast-combo decks don't really require lands or 1-cmc spells to go off.

If you have both in your opening hand, I would open with Blood Moon. That gives you a chance to see what you're up against and capitalize on the Chalice.

>>50399489
Re: your doomsday puzzle: I think that's very beatable, assuming Blasts are the only interaction. Play petal, LED, crack the petal for B, Ritual, Doomsday, hold priority and crack the LED for BBB. This way you discard the Contract and can put it in a pile. A pile of Contract, LED, LED, Petal, Wish will get the kill.

Re: your sideboard plan: sideboarding with DDFT is kind of counterintuitive in general. If you have Emrakul in your board, I'd bring it in vs painter (whether or not to bring in Shelldock Isle is debatable). I think bringing in Decay is probably right. I usually side out at least 2 Doomsday in this matchup, especially if you have Emmy. It's weird to say, but you'll almost always be wishing for it due to Moon, and unlike other Blood Moon matchups, you don't have Chalice to worry about so you don't need to win as fast. Also, not sure if you're doing this (seems like you are), but when you side in Contract, you need to side out a Probe so you have something to Wish for to draw into piles. In the Painter matchup you can consider making an Ideas Unbound/Contract swap since red blasts abound anyway.

>>50399489

Depends on a few things (esp. the opponent's life total, what else you saw off the Probe, and what your list runs), but spinning Top would tell us a lot about what you could pull off.

Assuming you spun and didn't see anything relevant; the opponent was at 18 life or less; and he didn't have a Bolt up his sleeve, I'd do something like:
—Lotus Petal into Dark Ritual (storm 2)
—LED (storm 3)
—Doomsday cracking LED for black (storm 4; BBB; 6 life)
(Stack Infernal Contract, Lotus Petal, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Tendrils)
—Flip Top; draw Infernal Contract
—Infernal Contract (storm 5, 3 life)
—Petal, Rit, Rit, Ninedrils of Agony

I have no idea what I'm doing.

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Here's my Doomsday puzzle. I think it's pretty easy but it's an interesting exercise.

The situation: your opponent has 19 life and just 1 card in hand, Echoing Truth, and the mana to cast it. Your hand and board look like pic related. What is the pile and how do you sequence your spells so as not to give your opponent a chance to fuck your shit up?

>>50399936

I forgot you'd end up drawing the Top, which in this case is beneficial.

The plan pretty much stays the same: you just play out the Top you drew of the Contract and draw into Tendrils for 20.

>>50399991
For the record, most DDFT lists don't play Tendrils main and it's probably not right to side it in in this matchup, so you'd need to wish for it. With 3 "mountains" untapped your pile still works if you just slap a Wish in place of the Tendrils.

>>50399809
Ah man I didn't think about cracking the LED in response to Doomsday. For some reason I was thinking I couldn't get Contract into the grave without also discarding my Doomsday. Thanks for that.

As for sideboard, I considered Emmy with Shelldock, but decided against it. Completely went over my head that Emmy is good against mill. Siding out Doomsdays is interesting, and I see where you're coming from.

Having Probe in the board for a wish target was my intention, as I remember you saying exactly that previously senpai

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>>50399139
I dont have a scanner but here's a better pic. Whatchu think senpai

>>50400222
I'm glad other people are picking up the deck. I think it's really powerful and much more ___fun_ than other storm variants. Just gets a bad rap sometimes.

>>50400233
With not that great resolution and terrible lightning can't be sure, but leaning 70% those are real. What about the Trop and Bayou?

I watched a buddy of mine play doomsday in vintage and despite how cool it was, what a mess of a format

>>50400233
Still hard to tell based on resolution but the right one looks fake. The edges are too round, the text is a bit blurry, and the colors look different.

If you look at a guaranteed real magic card, you'll see that the edges look like they were almost just "cut" once, like you took a pair of scissors to each corner and snipped a tiny bit off. It's a LITTLE rounded, but hardly noticable at first glance.

Maybe try overlapping those two cards?

>>50386858
I used to have a deck built, until I left my backpack on a train. Pic related is my last photo of it.

>>50399584
Chalice on 1 stops Probe and Therapy vs Manaless, by the way.

>>50403083
Oops, forgot my name.
Also, bump or something.

>>50403627
>>50403083
I also forgot my photo. Oh well, pic related is my legacy deck right now.

>>50403644
Did you forget the pic again or is it a joke because you have no deck?

>>50403083
>>50403627
>>50403644
This whole collection of posts is a holy mess.

>>50402410
I think I watched a Vintage match maybe once? Shops versus Dredge. Interesting enough to make me want to play, but too expensive to buy into unless it's for pure collection.

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>>50400233
Based on that piss-poor pic, I'd wager money than they're both real. The cut on the corners is convincing (note the ever so slight squaring on the bottom corners closest to each other) and the dirt build up around the edges is convincing. That said, the picture is too poor quality to pass judgement and one can never be 100% without personally inspecting them. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Just ignore pocket Sherlock as he's shown himself all too ready to pass judgement based on practically nothing.

>>50400183

Ah, that's interesting. Didn't know that.

>>50403083

That's true, but it doesn't stop you from casting Therapy. Just counters it automatically, but you still get zombies.

Also, I like your style (>>50403627 >>50403644).

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Everyone else is doing posting lists so why not bump the thread with mine

Thinking of taking out a Usea for an island, I'm definitely dropping a Counterspell for Lim-Dul's Vault in the main, and dropping the predict for a snapcaster whenever I get another one

>>50375784
What is Spanish Inquisition?

>>50375935
What is oops?

>>50406302
I like your choice of printing for everything except counterspell and thoughtseize.

>>50406437
The best god damned combo deck in the world

>>50406685
Those are my preferred Thoughtseize and Counterspell art.

>>50406302
I like your choices of art except for Ponder and FoW. and the 1 expedition flooded strand with 9 other non expedition fetches and white bordered duals.

Why just one IT top?

I use FRF basics but those basics are A+

>>50406727
but what is it?

>>50406480
Oops All Spells is a combo deck aiming at getting a turn 1 win. The basic combo is to mill your whole library with Balustrade Spy or Undercity Informer, putting 4 Narcomoebas into play. You sacrifice three of those to flashback Dread Return targeting Angel of Glory's Rise, which returns Azami, Lady of Scrolls and Laboratory Maniac. Use Azami's ability to tap Maniac to draw a card, then Lab Maniac's ability triggers and you win the game.

The deck can also sideboard into Goblin Charbelcher in a pinch, but both decks brick hard against Force of Will. Here's a sample list for you.

4 Chrome Mox
4 Lotus Petal

1 Angel of Glory's Rise
1 Azami, Lady of Scrolls
4 Balustrade Spy
4 Chancellor of the Annex
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
1 Laboratory Maniac
4 Narcomoeba
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Undercity Informer
1 Wild Cantor

4 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
4 Manamorphose
4 Pact of Negation
4 Summoner's Pact

3 Cabal Therapy
1 Dread Return

Sideboard:
4 Goblin Charbelcher
1 Grim Monolith
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
2 Tinder Wall
4 Spoils of the Vault

>>50406855
The end goal is all expedition fetches, but those are expensive. And yes just 1 Italian top, trying to replace them all with foil EMN tops, same with my 4 FoW, the one single Italian FoW and Top are starting to bother me. I would try to get black bordered Duals but I'm not a millionaire so unless I come across them for really cheap or a good trade I ain't getting them

>>50406302
Euro land master race checking in.

>>50407162
Do what I did: sell the revised duals and then some other cards you're never going to use and upgrade. FWIW EXPs are anti-pimp so there's another $130 right there once you sell it. You could also downgrade your THS foil TSes.

>>50407162
I'm not blaming you for not having all expeditions, using the one you have or not having black bordered duals. Shit's expensive, yo.

>>50406873
Spanish Inquisition (SI) is a Land Grant storm deck that uses Infernal Contract and Cruel Bargain as it's storm engine of choice. It often also utilizes Culling the Weak and 0-drop creatures to generate storm and mana, On the Speed/Consistency spectrum, it's somewhere around Belcher. It strives to go off turn 1 and hopefully ignore the opponent, but the draw 4s give you better ability to setup for turn 2, or rebuild after disruption, better than Belcher does. Downsides are there's a bit of non-determinism involvedin comboing out, unlike Belcher where your opener either has it or it doesn't.

>>50377678
>>50379676

Your combo match-ups are generally very lopsided
Unless ur a pray for t1 chalice kind of guy

>>50407575
The only combo MUs that are piss poor are Show and Tell variants. TES and ANT are manageable because g2 and g3 we can just mull to our hate (Chalice and/or Teeg).

>>50406302
I'd love to play against this.

>>50406991
Cerberus build strictly better.

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>>50406302
Nice deck broseph. I know the struggle.

Bumping with decklist.
Can you guys help me critique my deck?

Anybody have any of these cards foil? Everything is preferred printing with the exception of fetches. Fetches are going to be 2 of each green original printing in foil.

>>50408306
have you tried blossoming defense? the list I posted is from before it was printed. also, by 2 of each green fetch do you mean you'll be playing 10? because I feel like most lists run 8 if for nothing else than available space.

>>50408306
You better be getting MPR Wasteland.

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>>50408440
I've not. I'm more sold on the slick technology I saw last week in the form of standstill. I really want to try it out.

Also, could you please point to the 5 green fetches in pic related?

>>50408534
I am. That one slipped my mind. Do you have one?

>>50408616
I do not. Not a fan of foils anyway.

>>50408616
shit tier pic anon. heath and foothills should be transposed and then mire should be placed to the right of delta.

>>50408616
I'm retarded

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Here's the other deck.

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>>50408994
SB. Three blank cards are STP.

>>50406302
I'm not sure why you're running a basic swamp. The black cards you have you wouldn't be bringing them in against Wasteland decks anyway (plus Surgical is free). Swamp should be 4th island.

>>50407976
>Cerberus build
>hurr brb taking a decklist SOMEONE ELSE threw together
I guess I'll just never understand why simpletons want to dumb the game down to such an effortless endeavor by just mindlessly slamming cards down on the table and drooling on them. People who play competitively don't really understand the game, nor do they care to. They usually don't even know the rules outside of paying mana costs. I, on the other hand, find it gratifying to build and design my own decks, gaining a deep intimate knowledge of the game and its inner workings. The only reason I look at decklists on the internet is to make sure that I'm not currently building a 75-card deck thats already been built by somebody before.

>>50409342
2/10 net deck hater shitpost. This isn't even copypasta status.

Sorry if this is the wrong, place, but I got invited to an Eternal Masters draft, and I was wondering what were some good archetypes to keep an eye out for?

>>50409428
>netdecker too retarded to even reply to the correct post
You can't make this shit up.

>>50409342
I assume the basic swamp is due to his own B2B and the low opportunity cost of running it.

>>50409507
But still, swamp doesn't cast anything important. Whereas in UWr, the argument could be made for basic mountain because REB effects and Wear//Tear (basic mountain is still garbage though).

If he's resolved a B2B, there's no point to casting a TS.

I'm not too sure when Kambal would be brought in at the same time as B2B.

>>50409495
0/10 just begging for attention now.

>>50409430
GB elves and ur spells/flashback.

If you're feeling foggy 5 color hondens is very strong, but hard to draft.

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>>50406302

>>50409611
Thanks for clicking the correct post this time, dumbass. I needed that (You).

>>50409592
>if he's resolved B2B, there's no point to casting a TS
I don't see why this should be true. In fact, I feel like thoughtseize is particularly good after B2B. When B2B lands, especially against a deck with a weak clock like miracles, affected players will usually make land drops and stock up on relevant spells to try to have a big turn. Thoughtseize negatively affects that plan.

>>50409692
B2B does next to nothing against Miracles, and does even less if he's against a UWr version.

It's great against Delver and Eldrazi and Loam and to a lesser extent Shardless, but against only one of those decks would you want to follow up with a TS to hit a Decay. Sure, after you use your TS now swamp just taps for <> but what if you draw that swamp? It doesn't cast any other spells. He's better off running a third USea.

>>50409750
You misunderstood, but my text was ambiguous so my bad. I didn't mean that you should play b2b vs miracles. I meant that b2b-affected players will behave as I described, particularly when they are not on a clock, as would be the case against miracles. It seems like ts would be fine against eldrazI (assuming no chalice) since you could nab threats while they wait to peel enough lands to cast them.

>>50388620
Doomsday isn't a real deck

>>50409819
Wouldn't you rather that TS be a threat to advance your board as your Eldrazi opponent is temporarily locked out of the game? On a similar note: the best way to combat a Chalice isn't to hope you have a turn 1 discard for it. It's to remove it once it's landed. That's why you see UWr decks eschewing Spell Pierces for EEs since EE will be a live draw more often than Pierce. Same idea with TS. Unless it's in his opener, the card just becomes worse and worse as the game progresses, even if the opponent is under a B2B. You've stripped a card they already couldn't cast, and you've done nothing to advance your boardstate in the process.

Or wouldn't you rather that swamp be an island so you have UU for Jace, or the ability to play two cantrips in one turn if you need it?

One of the manabase philosophies I've seen (with Miracles anyway) is that all your lands should be able to cast any MD spell if it's the only land in play. Swamp casts nothing (that can't already be cast by another land).

>>50409961
http://mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=161&f=LE&meta=117

>>50409997
>3 T8s, none in the finals in the past year
Even Goblins does better and that deck is garbage.

>>50409990
I'm not a Miracles player so I don't really know to be honest. I probably should let Esper Miracles Guy explain his manabase choices. But it seems obvious to me that the reason for the Swamp is he wants to cast his black spells under his own B2B. Whether Swamp is better than a black dual is something I'd have to test, and I assume EMG has done the testing.
>all your lands should be able to cast any MD spell if it's the only land in play
I'm not sure if you meant to say exactly that, but it doesn't really make sense. e.g. a basic Island can't cast a Path to Exile, so why play so many basic islands?

>>50410083
Don't forget, B2B is not Blood Moon. He always has the option of fetching a USea at exactly the moment he needs {B}.
>I'm not sure if you meant to say exactly that, but it doesn't really make sense. e.g. a basic Island can't cast a Path to Exile, so why play so many basic islands?
The point is, island can cast Ponder or BS. Plains can cast STP or Terminus. Swamp casts exactly Top, a card the other two could have casted anyway.

Geeze, didn't think having a basic swamp would cause so much trouble. I mainly have for decks that play blood moon. I haven't actually played any games with it yet so I'm it too sure if it's the right option. Also what DDFT guy said, so I can play under my own B2B. If I'm not against a deck that's bothering my mana base I'm fairly confident in my ability to filter away a swamp or atleast control my draws enough to the point it doesn't affect me. Like I said I haven't actually played any games with it in the deck as of yet so still an idea

>>50410154
Maybe you're right, f a m. But I think the basic swamp is at least a defensible choice. Maybe it should be in the board. I'm not EMG so I don't know.

>>50410012
here's the (You)'s you crave.

>>50408306
That is a sexy deck my friend.

>>50410344
As someone who has tried basic mountain in both MD and SB in UWr Miracles, it definitely is better in the SB, though I would rather not run it at all. Like I said earlier, if you really want the black then play 3rd USea. Otherwise, move the swamp to the SB, cut the 1-of Leyline (let's be real here: you're not seriously going to mulligan to Leyline against Burn or Storm), and play the 4th island.

>College student
>Live near Face to Face Toronto
>Want to come in for legacy events
>No fucking clue what deck I want to try
>Also every deck is at least 1000 syrup bottles
You guys seem pretty chill, any advice you could give me? Uninteractive combo is always fun.

>>50411916
If you're going to buy an uninteractive, folds to FoW deck, buy something with LEDs so you can upgrade to an uninteractive, doesn't fold to FoW deck later on.

>>50411916
Since 1000 syrup bottles sounds like a budget issue, there are plenty of cheap combo decks to be had. Granted, as with most budget decks, you'll be missing some of the 'juice' the higher tier decks possess.

With that said, I suggest the following:
Cepheid breakfast / dredge
puresteel paladin storm
sac land tendrils ( mono black variant for more style points)

>>50411916
mono blue infect is pretty budget and gives you force of will and fetch lands to transfer to other decks

Hey EMG want to play on Xmage?

>>50412269
Don't have it downloaded atm, my laptop is being a fuck and I'm too lazy to get the too work

>>50411974
>>50412150
>>50412259
Thanks for the advice, I'll check those decks out and playtest them a bit on cockatrice and see if I enjoy them.

>>50406991
I play the underworld cerberus version because it opens up a slot for another card and after the dread return everything is active or triggered abilities which can be hard to stop unless you're running stifles.

Also Doc Brown (Lab Man) isn't a triggered ability it's a replacement affect. It replaces "draw a card" with "you win the game".

>>50411916
Oops is like $300 if you don't go with the LED/Belcher sideboard plan which I personally hate.

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>>50376654
Reporting for the family tree
>>50377768
What's quick stop?


Also have some more pussy

>>50411916
Shilling nic fit for interactive deck

Alternatively SI is some of the most fun I've had playing combo alongside my 5c 'the retarded storm' brew

>>50411916

All Spells, a.k.a. "Look Ma, No Lands!" a.k.a. Five-Color Aggro, a.k.a. Rogue Tribal, a.k.a. SANIC (Gotta go fast!), a.k.a. #YOLOswagson360noscope, a.k.a. "The Waco Kid."

Accept no substitutes.

>>50412747

This. The only real arguments against Cerberus are Chalice on 1 (solved by 'boarding in Ingot Chewer) and the idea that your opponent is trolling maximally by holding back Force/Mindbreak Trap for the Lab Man.

Also, any other takers for the Torsten von Ursus Challenge?

And do I count as Legacy family at this point?

>>50408306
>black bordered glistener elves
why even live?

>>50413398
>any black bordered cards at all except your one (1) masterpiece Lotus Petal
why even live?

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>>50413500
>responding to a post about someone else to circle jerk yourself

this has gone too far

>>50412934

>my 5c 'the retarded storm' brew

I'm jonesing for a list.

>>50413398
>>50413500

>Caring about borders more than Torsten von Ursus

why even live?

>>50413565
#MakeTorstenGreatAgain

>>50413648

New memedeck idea: Maverick shell with added Canonists/Recruiters instead of Stoneforge Mystics and Torsten von Ursus as the finisher.

Anyone with any kind of hatebear experience interested in working on this?

>Captcha: "Select all the street signs: 'Legacy Pkwy'"

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>>50414214
Have you considered?

Im sick right now, and on days like these I wish 2d grills existed ao id have something qt and warm to snug

>>50413565
Gimme a while to draft up a list of what it looked like.
It was fucking awful, but fun as hell.

>>50412894
I posted a while back near the beginning of these threads and drop enough information about my location that another anon managed to ID the gas station I had just posted a picture from.

>>50412934
I'll second NicFit as a great budget option. It feels like you can start with the core engine and some bulk rare beatsticks and scale up as you have the money. I played vs a really sweet looking version a while ago with Birthing Pod and Recurring Nightmare.

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Ancient Tomb is a really cool magic card.

How do you guys white border your cards?

I want to do it to my fish but I find to many methods on the internet.

>>50410344
As a guy that plays pretty much the same as >>50410430 having the maindeck basic mountain is completely infuriating because it doesn't do anything important.

Given the fact that the Swamp only casts proactive spells like Thoughtseize (rather than reactive spells like REB), you're not really losing anything by running a USea rather than a Swamp.

Think of it this way, you can keep a hand with 1 Island, but you absolutely have to ship a hand with just a Swamp, and when you're trying to dig for UU for CB/Counterspell, if you rip or filter the Swamp you're going to shred the fucking thing after the game.

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I think I've broken MTG. My library is basically life giving spells / creatures and +1/1 counters every time I gain life. I had a match where one of my angels was more than +600/600

Shit just grows exponentially without end.

Is this legal?

>>50416858
>What is Terminus

>>50416858
How do you fare against infect or control then?

>>50416858
friendo, you can combo Thune with Spike Feeder in Modern and iirc it still isn't tier 1 there
Soul Sistars ain't very good in Legacy through.

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>>50416928
>>50416931
>>50417116
In one turn Sunbond Seraph of Dawn went from a 4/6....

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>>50416928
>>50416931
>>50417116
>>50417255
...to a 14/16 because of two Scroll of Avacyns

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>>50416928
>>50416931
>>50417116
>>50417255
>>50417263
And because Seraph of Dawn has Lifelink, after one attack it then became a 28/30

>>50417283
the numbers doesn't matter after the game, all that matters is who won (and if fun were had)
I doubt your deck can be good enough for Legacy (I mean you're fighting against Homarid Tribal), look at the Oops mentioned earlier, it kills around t1 - t2. Not to discourage you, you just need at least way more disruption vs combo in my opinion.

>>50417306
Funs were had, and you're probably right. I just wasn't sure if it was actually legal. I feel like I'm exploiting some kind of dirty loop hole when I play Soul's Attendant who gives me +1 life any time any creature comes into play, and then Serene Steward who puts a +1/1 counter on a creature any time I gain life. Then Archangel of Thune who has lifelink and and gives a +1/1 counter to ever creature whenever I gain life. And then there's a bunch of other cards that do about the same thing.

>>50417283
Hey don't listen to these fags
>>50417306
>>50417116
>>50416931
>>50416928


I really think you broke the format, this may be the most powerful thing I have ever seen. I mean how could you ever lose if you continually gain life? Keep it up man put all those dumb net deckers in their place.

>>50417351
there are a tons of inf combos, all that are not banned can be used. Like say, Cephalid Breakfast is faster than your deck. Or Tireless Tribe/Inside Out combo that can kill t2. Don't worry about yours :)
Also Feeder/Thune is a combo cause it goes infinite. You just have synergy

>>50417358
I really wish I had screencaped the game where I finished with over 1,000 life

>>50417412
It's not hard to get 10^50+ life. I threw together a deck that gained obscene amounts of life a while back for fun. It's good in casual play but life gain/steal isn't strong enough in competitive. Beacon of immortality on panoptic mirror, Celestial mantel on anything (preferably rhox faithmender), etc.

Whats the closest thing to a real deck that I can put four Vengevines in?

Survival is the only deck I've ever truly loved.

>>50417770
Now you got me missing extended.
I guess that's why I've been hoping Frontier (tm) becomes a thing because its the closest thing to extended right now.
Even better: reverse modern with only cards with old borders.

>>50417484
my friend plays cleric tribal in legacy. That has an infinite life combo as its primary win condition.

Fucken Daru Spiritualist man.

>>50418112
Can you post your Nic Fit list? I've been having a lot of fun playing a purely BG version I brewed up but it really needs tuning. I'd like to see a tuned list.

>>50418112
I'll also take someones shitbrew if there's nothing approaching a real deck with Vengevines

I'm desperate.

>>50413384
I don't get how Cerberus fits in the deck

>>50416548
I used acetone. Nail polish remover. Just make sure it''s 100% acetone. Splash a bit on a paper towel and scrub the borders off your cards. Use painters tape to keep it clean. Parctice on some basic lands before you move to your force of wills or whatever cause it's possible to ruin your cards if you make them soggy or something.

>>50416858
The Modern thread is the one with the Snapcaster OP pic. Even we don't want your tier 5 jankshit in here.

>>50416548
>>50418585
If you're not planning on reselling your cards then this is fine. If you are, acetone actively damages the cards, so you should try using an eraser (not that there's a market for WB cards).

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>>50416858
I think I've broken your deck.

>>50419052
No one can afford to own that card so I think I'm safe.

>>50418390

Instead of using Dread Return to bring back Angel of Glory's Rise (and by extension Azami and Lab Man), bring back the Cerberus. You should have a Cabal Therapy, a bunch of Spirit Guides and Street Wraiths, and a Wild Cantor in your graveyard at this point (N.B.: you don't need the Lab Man or some of the other cards in your graveyard; they can be in your hand). Sacrifice the Cerberus to flashback Cabal Therapy. When Cerberus dies, all the Spirit Guides and the Wild Cantor come back to your hand. Play out the Cantor off of a Spirit Guide and sacrifice it for blue. Exile two more Guides to play Lab Man, then cycle Street Wraiths until your opponents run out of removal.

Looks more vulnerable to countermagic because it's got so many moving parts, but the crucial points remain the Spy/Informer and the Dread Return. If your opponent holds back countermagic past those, they're either slow-rolling or they don't know what's happening.

Bump from the grave.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/top-8-decklists-2016-11-27

>>50420907
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/top-8-decklists-2016-11-27

rootin for the storm player

>>50420907
that's a pretty weird top8. So much sneak and show

>>50421175
i guess 2 isn't that much but it's at least twice as much as normal.

>>50421169
Holy shit that a lot of miracles there, poor elf player. Rooting for Yuuya and that elves player

>>50420907
One of those Miracles decks runs Back to Basics. Still rooting for the Sneak and Show with Progentius.

>>50416128

I'm banking on it getting a reprint in Eternal Masters 2.

>>50421169
>>50421992
>>50422063
You guys know that results came out 7 hours ago, right? The Miracles list without Predict v SnS in finals, SnS wins two quick games because nut draws.

Why do legacy players dislike D&T and Eldrazi so much?

>>50423465
Because No Fun Allowed decks is only fun for those playing the deck.

>>50423579
>playing against goldfishing.dec is "fun"

>>50423659
How about playing a deck that actually interacts with the opponent? There's a reason people hate Miracles and Chalice decks. Their whole shtick is literally "I'm going to say no to everything you want to do and then jerk myself off over the table". Who the fuck wants to play Magic against someone whose whole purpose is to make their opponents NOT play Magic?

>>50423743

please define "interaction"

>>50423579
>>50423659
>>50423743
>>50423766

and people wonder why competitive formats are circling the drain while casual formats like EDH are seeing huge influxes of people

>>50423743
Any deck you play against is unfun. Their objective is to make you lose

>>50423786
>Playing any format"casually"
My narset edh begs to differ

>>50423786
>>50423743
>>50423659
>>50423579

Did I accidentally walk into the /modern/ thread?

>>50424055
>legacy general is the best.
>Literally autist circlejerking to the picture of Doomsday white bordered ugly deck
>Namefags shitposting
>People complaining about thalia or FoW
Wew lad

>>50424055
Unfortunately it seems so.

>>50424268
There were a few real decks posted. UWR Miracles (lol Esper no thanks), ANT, Aggro Loam, Infect.

>>50424055
At this point we have two Modern generals now. Poorfags bitching in one, anti-netdeck fags bitching in another.

>>50424353
>Poorfags bitching in one, anti-netdeck fags bitching in another.
that's literally the same group of people

>>50424268
>>Namefags shitposting

Ironically it's the anons in this thread that do the shitposting
The namefags in this thread just do the shitplaying ;^)

>>50424623
>a namefags comes to defend itself.
Thanks for proving my point. Waiting for DDFT guy to reply

Been toying around with a budget mono red reanimator welder deck. Mindslaver is in the sideboard

Thoughts?

3 Daretti, Scrap Savant
4 Great Furnace
4 Inkwell Leviathan
14 Mountain
4 Lotus Petal
4 Darksteel Citadel
2 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
4 Trash for Treasure
4 Faithless Looting
4 Goblin Welder
2 Lightning Greaves
4 Cathartic Reunion
3 Wurmcoil Engine
4 Ichor Wellspring

>>50423786
would you care to define "interaction" now?

You can't, because it's a rhetorical device for manbabys who can't handle losing at magical cards.

Deck tries to win too fast? It's cheap because it's not interactive. Deck interacts with you and in doing so makes you lose? It's not a "fair" deck. Just fuck off with all this babble already.

>>50424851
now this at least looks like fun. If I were trying to make that deck work I would consider some defensive cards to combat counterspells and removal. Red Elemental Blast might be too weak for maindeck, but things like that.

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>>50424268
Oh man, you are going to need more original bait. You've been in shit threads for so long you forgot what chilling out is.

>>50424800
R00d

>>50424851
You'll probably want Anger to give your Welders haste.

>>50425182
Ah, good idea. I'll play around with a few.

>>50425027
Chalice is outside of my budget but maybe 3sphere or defense grid? REB/pyroblast wouldn't hurt to be in the sideboard.

>>50425212
>Chalice is outside of my budget but maybe 3sphere or defense grid? REB/pyroblast wouldn't hurt to be in the sideboard.

Yeah I struggled to think of cards that fit my suggestion so I'm sorry about that. I didn't think about taking it in a Stax direction, but mono red stax could be pretty neat. I don't know about the prices on Smokestack, Thorn of Amethyst, or Tangle Wire, but you might wanna check em out.

If you go that route though I'd consider some way of cheating on your mana base. City of Traitors and Ancient Tomb are both pretty expensive, but you could probably come up with some alternatives.

>>50424851

This looks really fun. I'd run this for sure.

>>50424800
>ha let's shit up the thread a Lil
>Oh baby I TOTALLY owned all the trip fags
>he can't do anything without shit posting aren't I great and right?
gets a response to defend oneself
>HA WOW WHAT A SHIT POSTER I'M SO RIGHT GG NO RE SCRUB

>>50425322

Crystal Vein can always be a budget alternative to City of Traitors. Sandstone Needle is kinda janky but I've seen Depletion-lands run in Dragon Stompy to hit their higher mana-cost cards.

>>50424268
>>legacy general is the best.
>>Literally autist circlejerking to the picture of Doomsday white bordered ugly deck
>>Namefags shitposting
>>People complaining about thalia or FoW

All of these things are 100% true I don't really see what the problem is.

>>50424851
Looks really cool. Have you tried out Kuldotha Rebirth for some quicker board presence or Simian Spirit Guide to power out the combo more quickly?

>>50424851
Dude? Dude. Nice. How fast is it? How quickly can you combo your pieces out?

>>50426035
You just don't care because someone mentioned you/your deck in a post not made by you.

Look man, you provide good content about your deck and others when you aren't circlejerking. The problem you don't see is that we could have actual discussion instead of shitposting, which honestly was the case before you fags got tripcodes. It's not names that are the problem, it's namefags thinking names are important. I get that it's fun for you, but it's not fun for anyone just checking in on this thread, participating here and there and expecting a quality of discussion better than reddit.

We all know we're capable of that. Let's just do it instead of shitposting, circlejerking, and tripfagging.

seriously, the imposterfag is gone. we can drop the trips. the reason names are ok and trips are not is that you could be impersonated and it doesn't fucking matter because you're an anon on 4chan

>>50424851
Regarding this deck, is Lotus Petal there just for the speed to compete with regular legacy decks? I can't help but feel this slot could be better.

>>50426377
If you throw more money at it the deck would be faster. T2 would be the fastest you'd have a beater on the field (either through welder or trash). The deck usually ends the game around T5/T6 respectively.

The upside is that it feels fairly consistent. While it's nowhere near the upper tiers of legacy decks it's a blast to play.

>>50426389
It's the weakest slot, I feel, out of the list. At the moment yea it's just to speed things up a bit, be a target for trash/welder, and that's about it.

>>50426389
---LEGIT TALK---
i was considering dropping the trip but there really isn't a difference between just having names and using trips unless we have an impostor. I don't really see why names should affect the quality of discussion, and I'm not sure what you mean when you say "namefags thinking names are important." We're pretty welcoming to anons and newcomers; it's not like we're driving off people intentionally.

I acknowledge that we circlejerk in here and I've been pretty egregious the past few days with the white-boordering thing but I don't think its worse than in any other MTG thread and probably is better by a good bit from what I've seen. I'm open to trying to improve the thread. If all you are looking for is better quality of discussion, we can work on it but I don't see how having names or trips affects that. Just trying to get a feel from where you're coming from. I think this is the best general on /tg/ but if it can be exemplary I think we'd all appreciate it.
---LEGIT TALK OVER---

LOL UR A FAGET NOT ME
good thing i said that so I could get away with my diginity intact.

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>>50426686
>diginity
>DIGINITY

>>50426686
>Just trying to get a feel from where you're coming from. I think this is the best general on /tg/ but if it can be exemplary I think we'd all appreciate it.

I also feel this is the best general on /tg/ and it proves that exemplary discussion is possible on 4chan, which has always been the case except when people succumb to distractions such as shitposting, etc. Names and trips really don't matter. It's just the quality of discussion. Nobody calls out anons on shitposting because there are many anons. Names and trips just generate another distraction when they shitpost. Anons are just ignored (and rightfully so).

That's where I'm coming from, I appreciate your response. I appreciate your posts too, even the deck pics (just not jerking them)

>>50427075
Well I appreciate the civil discourse f a m. I can't make any promises but we should all work together to keep the quality of the thread high. Shitposting once in a while is fine if we don't let it get out of hand. Now let's try to get back to the Legacy talk so we don't put a damper on things.

>>50427075
And this is why, when I want to shitpost, I take my tag off.

>>50425092

>pic

Fukken saved.

>>50423465

I think one thing is that they stop people from playing their cards—not just for a turn, not just one card, but all of the stuff that ties together the majority of decks in the format—which nobody likes.

But the cardinal sin is that they're not interesting. They don't do crazy things; they don't suddenly explode into action after a number of turns of setup; there's no exponential snowballing of effects to produce absolute ruination. They just play a card or two that don't let you play the game anymore, then start attacking with 2/2s and such until their opponent is dead.

What this means is that it doesn't really matter what plays you make once they've locked you. You might get lucky, but the odds are that the game's decided within the first couple of turns, only then you have to wait around until they actually kill you.

The same is true of Miracles, though I like that deck too.

Personally, I don't really mind any of that; I like Eldrazi, even though it hoses a lot of stuff I play.

>>50423786

A week or so ago I played Living Death into Jin-Gitaxias, Archetype of Endurance, Blazing Archon, and Avacyn. Prompted a double-concession in a four-player game. You can take the girl out of competition, but you can't take the competition out of the girl. I'm a man.

Unrelatedly, played Charbelcher at the local today. 2-1; topdecked a second Charbelcher twice in the first round and died to countermagic, then rocked through no disruption in the other two rounds.

Still not trippin'.

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Oy vey you cunts, get back to legacy discussion and stop responding to the shitposter.

Ok, so why play TRS over TES/TPS or SI or OOPS?
Well:
1ly it's got maybe half/third of the cantripping/setup/consistency of TES.
2ly it doesn't quite have as much chance for explosive wins as SI or OOPS.
3ly it doesn't quite fold to a FoW like OOPS.
4ly it's more fun than all of those decks combined to play. It's a bit like OOPS or SI in that you go all in on one turn, except you either win or you lose on that turn.
5ly it's more consistent mid-combo than SI; the lines of plays are janky but work.
6ly it's a bit like nic-fit, in that you can run it how you want with the cards you want. Maybe make it less shit by making it closer to SI/OOPS with more 1cmc cantrips and Summoner's Pact.

Honestly it's not very good, but my opponents have often asked me after the game/event to show me my deck and why it's built that way, and seeing their reaction and explaining the deck is fun.

Sideboard is those 5 + whatever sb cards you want for your meta: C.Therapy is probably the most obvious choice to protect you going off t2.

I'll put it on tappedout sometime

>>50427311
>But the cardinal sin is that they're not interesting. They don't do crazy things; they don't suddenly explode into action after a number of turns of setup
You don't understand.we are here to play true Magic. Not to remobe any fundamental part of the game. Your lands produce 300 maná? Nope. Your graveyards are your hand? Nope. Casting all the spells? No way .cheating emrakul? FUCK ofg. We keep Magic true and fair, as it should be played

>>50427658

>true Magic

That's the thing, though: there's no "true Magic." What I was saying wasn't that I don't like those decks (though I don't like playing decks like D&T personally). I was saying that that's the reason I think people don't like to play against them. There's no "WOW" in a D&T kill; it's just T2 Thalia, T3 attack, T4 attack, T5 attack, T6 attack, et cetera while the opponent just sits there topdecking.

With Storm, you might just go off on the first turn without giving your opponent a chance to do anything, but at least it's over in a turn without too much time spent just sitting there. Last time I played against PSI, I remember really enjoying watching whether he could put together a kill, even though I couldn't do anything and I was dead if he pulled it off (he did).

That's not the case with prison decks, and I think that's why people don't like to play against them.

>>50394608
Is sleeves+character guards as good as perfect fits+sleeves?

>>50427519
So decks that go all in on one turn and either win or lose are kind of my jam so I'm curious about this list. It also makes me think more about something i've wondered for a while: can modern Ad Nauseam be ported to Legacy?

>>50427884
Legacy has ANT so yeah, but it does work differently.
Also if you have questions about the deck go ahead. I've played that list (well, something like that) for a long time

>>50425933
And if you play crystal vein you get to look at the creepy aboriginal man in the art.
>ay bruz you got any durries
>also i fuckin love crystals ay

>>50417351
Add black to discard and extirpate your opponent's combo pieces and mass removal. Then we're talking.

>>50427950
Well I was thinking more like how the modern ad nauseam works. But I do have some questions about your deck. Is angel's grace/ad naus the main plan? Do you do well with the deck?

Anyone have a pic of a white border FS goyf?
I'm thinking about doing that but I don't want it to look like shit

>>50428202

I'd actually wondered a bit about whether one could slot Ad Nauseam into PSI. Maybe remove some of the janky stuff (Culling the Weak, Infernal Contract, and free creatures) and add red Rituals and Burning Wish, too. Probably wouldn't work, but might be worth a try if you're interested in living dangerously.

>>50428202
Modern Ad Nauseam is too slow for legacy. Legacy ANT is basically SI/TES/TPS with Ad Nauseam as a 5mana draw 5-10 or so rather than a card that draws the entire deck. Ad Nauseam is more consistent with clear "I win" hands as resolving Ad Nauseam with mana for a ritual often just means a win.

Anyways my deck:
It's a pile of combo decks in one. Land grant is one of the most important cards for the deck as it grants access to any of the 5 colours.
Angel's Grace + Nauseam is a combo that sometimes you have in your hand and you just win, but is not the main plan. If you were looking for a legacy deck with that combo I'll have to disappoint. Oftentimes you can just win off of Ad Nauseam without Grace. The reason I only have one Nauseam is because this deck is very good at losing life and revealing Nauseam from Nauseam just cannot happen.
So back to land grant: sometimes you use it to get Tropical Island to preordain on the first turn to set up a win next turn, or mid combo. Sometimes you use it to play manamorphose. Most often though a turn starts with land grant -> bayou and you go off from there.
Death Wish is an addition I really like, because sometimes you just don't have Tendrils. One is in the main because sometimes you draw it with enough storm and 4 mana left.

I don't really know what in particular to explain, so you'd have to ask more specific questions if you're digging for some info.

>>50428435
Yes you can, but I'd only add 1 because of what I said above (No room to hit Nauseam off Nauseam)

Why is modo so retarded? I just want a way to play magic because my job doesn't give me time to go to regular events. But wotc in their infinite incompetence decided to design their digital system to COMPETE with their paper system. I have to choose between which medium I want to spend my money on. If it was just a monthly subscription and all cards were unlocked for you to build and play decks at your leisure then I would've been all over that shit a long time ago, but as it stands I'll have to rebuy my entire collection to transfer to the online medium. I am frustrated.
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Anon, why was this printed as uncommon? Why would wizards waste this uncommon on a meme?

>>50428456
Lol how's it going Nic Fit Guy =^) still playing BUG Pod?

>>50428687
You know what would actually make me play mtgo? A monthly payment that lets you phantom draft as much as you want

DDFT guy, how did your testing of Collective Brutality go? I've been loving it in standard storm

>>50428778
Goblin/rogue tribal synergy, plus a threaten effect for changelings.

It was a great limited card which is generally the purpose of uncommons.

>>50375784
>what legacy thing are you most thankful for?
Miracles' popularity.

>>50428778
Changelings are goats
>>50428791
I don't know whether you're shitposting or not in some kind of way but yes, I am still playing BUG Pod.

Also to the anon who was building Junk Wish Nic Fit I apologize for being unhelpful, I was really drunk at the time.

>>50428456

You're right that it's really rough to Ad Nauseam into an Ad Nauseam, but I'm beginning to wonder whether it would be worse to do that than it would be to cast Infernal Contract and not get what you need.

The other thing about Ad Nauseam is that there's a much higher cap on the number of cards you can find with it. Not sure how the math would work out in the deck we're theorizing, but I wouldn't be surprised if 4x Ad Nauseam and Burning Wishes would be better than the eight "pay half your life" cards. The principal hurdle would be generating five mana, and adding red might just make things terrible. I don't know; I've never played PSI.

An alternative would be splashing white to throw in Angel's Grace, which would also allow you to go nuts with the Contracts if you opted to keep some of them in the deck. But that's getting pretty spicy—perhaps too spicy to be viable.

>>50429350
I never did the math on what the optimal is but, see my list at >>50427519
I only ever had space for 1 Angel's Grace
Mostly I feel like Angel's Grace lets you keep going not because of your life loss, but because of their burn. You can Bargain/Contract 2-4 times in a game and usually that's enough to have enough storm.

Why is Oath of Druids the comfiest deck ever? I wish I had the dosh to play this deck in paper.

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>>50427835
>If you are not tapping your creatures sideway
>Payin your creatures manacost
>Playing lands just for mana
>Using spells that put +1/+1 counters
>Wining throught sheer combate damage.
You are not playing true Magic

>>50429459
Freedom ain't free. That mess called Standard gotta be littered with the cards we didn't bother to test for Eternal formats. Mark Rosewater aka "THE NOSE" is not my head designer. He is Jewish sellout and probably Star of David Games as well. Counterspells and dreams not +1 counters and MEMES ok. Praise Garfield.

>>50429100
I really liked it. It killed a lot of relevant creatures, and having another maindeck way to off thalia/eidolon/deathrite/delver/meddling mage/whatever was good. It was only OK against miracles since it couldn't get counterbalance. I've since dropped it from my list because it wasn't hitting enough in my meta but i think as a 1-of it's a perfectly valid option in DDFT or ANT.

>>50429457
UWR Mentor is better. I "stormed off" with only 2 tokens and casted 8 spells in one turn to kill my opponent from 17.

>>50393991
N-nice plains

I believe we've done this once before but, if you could have a dream card for your deck what would it be? And try not to make it absolutely broken (but a card that'll never get printed is also fine)

Personally I'd absolutely love instant/sorcery that removes a non creature permanent that has a miracle cost.

Now if I'm trying to be realistic... I'd honestly love a 3-4 mana white planeswalker that would slot well into miracles.

>>50432406
-3/-3 for one black. Literally just a stronger Disfigure. Still not as good as Bolt but gives Black so much more to work with one open open mana

>>50432406
a bear with flash and false cure nailed onto it

>>50432406
It's hard to come up with anything that wouldn't be hella broken since artifacts are crazy abusable in eternal formats, but a more expensive Artificer's Intuition that can find CMC 2 would be sweet, or a UB instant that wiped creatures or gave around -3/-3 for a reasonable cost would be nice.

Sudden Stagnation. 1BB
Instant
Split Second
All creatures get -2/-2 until end of turn.

>>50433543
That card sounds really balanced and annoying for a format with a high power level like legacy

Been playing The Cure lately, had some pretty fun games.
I'm thrashing DnT 6-8 games so far. They slow me down but if I resolve a Kavu Predator they're fucked because if they swords it, it gives me enough time to stabilize or I smash them with a trampling 14/14 over a couple of turns.

>Playing against turbo depths
>t1 I DRS off a fetchland into bayou
>they bayou, float black, spirit guide into crop rotation into dark depths into lotus petal and vampire hexmage
>t1 marit lage on the draw lol
>t2 I play a savannah, ping the marit lage with a swords to plowshares, in response false cure with the DRS exiling their bayou
>gain twenty lose forty gg.

>G2
>get the nuts draw with three Skyshroud cutter and a Reverent Silence and a False Cure
>I'm on a single Windswept heath but I keep because I'm a gambling man
They expedition map and pass
>I draw a bayou and ooo baby does it feel good
>drop a fetch and pass
>they fucken generate a t2 marit lage
>I fetch for a bayou at eot
>draw, play my second bayou
>play skyshroud cutters and reverent silence
>gain 21, lose 41 gg no re

this deck is so fucken silly I can't recommend it enough.
Has some pretty bad matchups though.

>>50432406
Something like bridge of below but that says: as long as (card) is on the graveyard all your creatures have "sacrifice this creature: counter Target spell"

>>50432406
I'd like a tournament legal version of Mise from the un-sets. Probably too stronk though.

>>50428421
just photoshop it. also, remember that it's just a piece of cardboard. the value is totally made up

>>50427311
>Unrelatedly, played Charbelcher at the local today. 2-1; topdecked a second Charbelcher twice in the first round and died to countermagic, then rocked through no disruption in the other two rounds.

Yeeeeeee boi. Belcher is the comfiest deck.


>>50432406
All I can think of here are broken cards for belcher. Eg. LED that can only be spent on artifacts but you don't have to discard your hand. Silence/Orim's Chant but in red. Wild Cantor but it draws a card when you sac it, etc.

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speaking of belcher, a recent pickup of mine. LEDless belcher, for when your are too insane actually cheap for regular belcher.

>>50433587
Can't tell if sarcasm. I decided it would be WAY too good at 2B, a better Deluge at instant speed most of the time. It's already a powerful answer to Delver, DnT and even Infect strategies anyways.

>>50427847
Wouldn't know, I use all 3.

>>50429191
How does it feel knowing no Miracles player tests for your deck because they know it won't make it past round 5 with all the Wasteland and Combo running around?

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I wanted LEDs and got a deck with em. Belcher is the new meta.

>>50437722
any particular reason for empties over tendrils?