Angels

>>50367374
they are angels i love them all,unless they side with demons then i will kill them with the damn demons

>>50367374
barely comprehensible eldritch horrors

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>>50367374
>how do you like your angels
Sexy.

>Helpful
Eh, I treat them and demons more like people with a personality trait that lends itself to being either beneficent or maleficent, then go from there. Angels can be very bitter, angry beings, and demons can be helpful and kind but ultimately selfishly motivated.

>vindictive
Depends on that being's existence. Maybe.

>fever-dream
Nah, things can be cut-and-dry and still mysterious. Lack of information and the chance to gain said information is way more interesting than things that aren't real and never can be.

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>>50367374
Insane psychedelic eyes and wheels type creatures. Ultimately good though, and not in a hardline Old Testament way. In a warm and fuzzy everyone just feels good way. Angels are infinitely wise and beautiful, and mortals weep at their presence.

>>50367374
>How do you like your angels?

Big ol' tiddies

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>>50367374
Proper good agents of good deities. They range from simple helpers to the powers that are practically demigods.

Which is why I basically just use PFs Angels, Azatas, Agathions and Archons. The lore and way they work just jives with how I like my angels.

>>50367374
Fever dream. Ambiguity in the divine is best. It all gets boring if you can be certain all of it is true, or at least your interpretation of it

>>50367374

Well, there's angels in my smut setting:
They're lewd bondage angels, often appearing with various bonds but completely compensating for it with their magic, usually sent down to earth to reward followers and punish evildoers. The rest of their time they spent fucking/being fucked by the people in Heaven and the Goddess.

For example, most have tied legs since they just hover everywhere, or come with ballgags because they speak directly into people's minds.

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The whole spectrum. Not just "lol horrorterror" or just sexy winged girls, but plenty are abstract and complex beings and plenty are knowable, familiar human-like beings.

No matter what, they are always here to help. To have one's aid is tremendous, and to have one as an enemy means you can guarantee you have transgressed somewhere badly.

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I feel like a lot of settings need better explanations for why angels don't just smite the necromancers and naughty dragons themselves. If necromancy is objectively evil in the setting, there shouldn't be anything stopping them.

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>>50367716
Yeah.

For my setting at least, and taking from Golarion, angels are very much occupied with taking care of their home planes, fighting infernals whenever they have access, and guarding important areas outside their planes such as the River of Souls.

A two bit necromancer or even a small nation of them upon a single Material plane world is nothing in comparison to the amount of souls that could be lost if a legion of devils or daemons or such attacked the River of Souls. Or the number of souls that would be destroyed or enslaved if they gained access to any of the Good Planes. And just administering the Good planes is an unbelievably monumental task, having to account for the innumerable Material plane worlds where souls are coming from.

>>50367716
Any necromancer big enough to be a threat is big enough to have a magic circle set up for angel snaring.

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>>50367374
The construct ones are male/female and humanoid, mostly because they are spawned from the purity of passed saints (One of the deities is a hivemind of saintly souls), but the "old angels" are mindwiped creatures from beyond the small reality marble that is the world, outside of which is literally an infinite swirling tide of firey chaos that have been reforged into old testament/eva angel types. Generally the latter are more purely good because they have no agenda tied to deities specifically.

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>>50367973

So a necromancer would have to not become so powerful as to actually draw the attention of wrothful angels?

>>50367374
As the reincarnation of someone righties enough to deserve it
They look normal enough to blend into a crowd it they wanted to, but they have all the divine power of heaven at there disposal

>>50367716
In a lot of settings the divine can't directly affect the affairs of mortals

When they're not nuch if any different from what we traditionally think of demons. Except they servre god

>>50367716
Because the mortar life exists to teach us. If there is no suffering then there is nothing to learn. If we cannot fail then there is nothing to learn.
Evil is aloud to exist because for now it is needed.
We need to learn in this mortal life so that we are prepared for exaltation when we become gods ourselves
As above so below

>>50368128
>>50368196
Found the Mormon

>>50367716
Because angels and deities (and demons, for that matter) exist in a concept space, a psychic field generated by the network of sentient creatures on the planet, and can only effect beings who believe in them/fear them.

>>50368214
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>>50368128
Mormonism wants to be cool so dearly with the "be good and you get to become a god" thing but then they sell magical panties to preserve chastity and don't drink coffee. I mean what the fuck?

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>>50367716
Because any wannabe necromancer can revive a lot of zombies that would kill an angel, seeing that they are very few in comparison with the number of dead bodies humans produce everyday

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>>50368126
Very much so. But should he become that big is the point after he's already been getting attacks from powerful psychopomps (Guides of souls who really hate undeath and the first to go after him) and aeons (should his soul stealing and undead start to threaten the balance of reality between the destructive and creative elements). He could also get the attentions of inevitables depending on how he is doing his stuff.

Its best to keep your power levels low or face the multiple guardians of reality.

>>50368251
Its classic cult behavior. Control the sexual activities and pleasures, while promising great rewards for spurning them or having massive restrictions.

Cults that are successful eventually turn into religions. See Christianity, Mormonism, Islam, Buddhism, Judiasm, and a fuckton of others where you can sort of trace their beginnings towards a cult of worshippers.

>>50367374
The old, original Christian way.
With the Diablo 3 design. Damn I love this design.

You see the famous explanation how lawful good isn't lawful stupid, quoting Pratchett, other famous others and even the bible?
Well I make my angels like he describe them.
Utterly powerful beings, so beyond imagination that the simple soght of them is enough to send humans running even if they have good intentions. The guy reminds us that the first thing angels say in the Bible to humans is basically "Don't be afraid". Because they are still the last beings that you want to anger or attract unwanted attention from.
Oh, and they're ascended humans, and there's no "God" above them. They are the most powerful beings, with free will, but normally stay out of mortal business, or at least not directly.

If someone had that screencap by the way I'd appreciate it.

Weird alien inter-dimensional geometric beings seemingly manifested from nothing, singing in a harmonious frequency.

A humanoid form is merely a mask for comfort.

>>50367545
there is a reason the standard greeting of angels is "do not be afraid"

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>>50367374
Like this

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>>50367374
In the purest form, obligation only to their master.

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I offer a couple crappy sketches of angels that are both sexy and weird, the left is a seraphem, described in some works as a six winged serpent, and to the right is a cherub , again art is not my strong suit, but I felt a need to offer something

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Holier than thou entities with complex goals and ambitions.

I consider Valkyries to also be angels just in a different allegiance.

They are not divine beings working for god(s), but an ordinary, possibly immortal, civilization who may or may not reside in the physical plane and are often misidentified as harbingers of good or evil.

>>50367374
Custodians of reality and divine will. Also a bit of this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNJuSl91qY

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>>50367374
Generic rank-and-file angels are just your standard winged humanoid because sexy angel chicks are my magical realm

Higher up in the celestial hierarchy, however...

>>50367374
I like them with actual personality outside of being smite engines. Some are helpful, some are vindictive, some are considered extreme, some are considered cowards. That whole bag.

>>50367374
Functionaries of God with very specific jobs, forms are theoretically flexible but codified with class.

Many abstract and geometric beings with odd amounts of personality, the most human are those who communicate with them regularly but are also the least free-willed as they have the capacity to lead people off-message though error or otherwise.

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I once had an angel that was one of the upper ranks but had fallen away from good to chaotic neutral due to shenanigans involved being trapped in Limbo. Sort of a Q character.

>>50367374
There are millions of Gods. 'Angel' refers, simply, to the beings they created or the mortals they've mutated. Demons are simply 'Angels' created by physical reality interacting with the magical forces. Many planets and stars are Demons. They're basically just massive balls of solid mana. Hypothetically, you could use them to cast any spell you liked. Few are truly sapient, but those that are...that's where half the Gods came from, actually.

As for Angels,...many are just mindless automate that serve their God's ends. Others are simply toys or pets. Some few are 'people' that serve their God part time but otherwise are free to do as they like. No specific moral code bar their Gods and their own; their Maker's will and desires supersede their own in all cases.

There are Angels of every possible description.

>>50367374
My setting has more mechanical angelic beings, only having some semblance of humanoid features, likely what appears to be a face somewhere on its body, but this ony applies to higher ranking angelsin the Choir.

The further down you go, the more humanoid they get, until you get Cherubim-like angels which are clearly humanoid.

Michael is a literal sword with a fancy atachment that looks like a body made of wires and plates, and "God" is a spherical object with two rods on either side that draw in matter and then creates new life/matter.

Lucifer is simply a humanoid being with fractal horns on its head that radiate heat, thus the likeness to fire.

>>50367374
I like a variety of angels. Whether it's sexy winged ladies, Diablo-tier armoured bad-asses, or eldritch horrors. I like all of them and everything in between, so any setting I come up with I try to find a way to include at least several of the angel archetypes if possible.

>>50367374
METATRON LIVES!

>>50372041
GLORY TO THE DIVINE CORPSE!

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>>50367545
>>50368882
>>50367611
>>50367664
>>50367714
>>50368409
>>50369585


These are all so good, I want to combine them.

>>50371494
Sounds very bizarre

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6JUGGERNAUT STAR SCOURS THE UNIVERSE

>>50375275
Holy Shit, is that Sithrak?

>>50375297
He decided to stop messing around.
Say what you will about K6BD the angels and demons are pretty neat.

>>50367374
Core'd and sent to autopsy.

>>50367374
They're a deity using its personal meeseeks box. They pop into existence at the will of the deity, perform a specific function and then cease to exist.

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I like them platinium blonde. Or simply platinium.

>>50367510
>SPOKEN LIKE A FUCKING TEN YEAR OLD

>>50367611
>all of these eyes and not one green
trull the plebest of angel

>>50367374
I'd say 'none of the above'. Angels in my settings are sort of inspired by the 4th edition D&D cosmology, with Angels being servants of their respective deities. This means there can be neutral/evil angels as needed, but what differentiates angels from other outsiders like demons and devils is purpose. They exist solely to assist in furthering the goals of their deity.

Because of this, dealing with an angel is almost as dangerous as dealing with a devil, because unless you can pin down who the angel is working for you might be getting played. Obviously it goes without saying that their physical forms are not bound to "handsome/beautiful humanoid with wings"

>>50367374
Most of them died when their gods did. The lucky survivors are still working toward the causes their creators embodied in life though with rather less power than they once held, the unlucky ones are varying degrees of insane and/or monstrous.

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>>50375438

Travel at the speed of thought and exist almost entirely as messengers. Messengers who seldom bring good news. If you encounter one, shits about to go down. With a few specialized exceptions, not fit for anything other than delivering a message then gtfoing. Ethereal postman who always deliver bills, basically.

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i like my angels murderous and genocidal. from one of my settings, the dark medieval times: the angel of strength, "the weak must be destroyed" he proclaims as the sky darkens, a thunderstorm begins and he descends from the heavens with one particularly vicious lightning strike, manifesting as a dark suit of spiked plate armour carried by energy wings of unknown origin

I fucking love nWoD angels

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Glorious, heavenly, mysterious and virtuous, yes not understandable by humans, doing things their own ways.

Visually beautiful and glorious in their own way, yet coming across as strange an foreign mortal eyes

Must we have this thread a-fucking-gain OP?

>>50375953
source of pic

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>>50376010
Bayonetta

They all also have very gross, detailed internal anatomy as their armor/skin breaks

Angels are gods subjugated by another god stronger than them. While you retain your original name you are given a new name that binds you to them and allows the one subjugating you to control how much power you have access to.

If the one that subjugated you is killed then there is a chance you gain their power and can use your name freely to scale your power back to what you originally had.

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>>50367374
Both angels and demons are from *outside*. But demons are from *below*, angels are from *above*.

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>>50376077
>>50367374
Like helpful ayy lmaos that we don't and can't really understand.

>>50376040
Except for Jubileus, who has Mundus-style cosmic weirdness under the marble coating.

>tfw all angels are tentacular horrors with really good PR

>>50376077
>Do you sleep with open windows?
>Be seeing you!

>>50376134
True, though it is The Creator after all, so it makes sense that she is part of the universe and/or consisting of it

>>50376580
Some works vary on why she's attacking, some that she's evil others that she went insane from a lack of balance and that killing her is something of a mercy to all

>>50367374

I like my Angels to have multiple roles and multiple forms.

Standard Angels who are a bit glowy and can use Divine magic

Warrior Angels who normally just appear as attractive humanoids with wings who can use Divine magic and are a more physically capable than most mortals.
>i.e. a female angel you can spar with until you put her on her back or she puts you on your's.

Archangels who are at a "Fuck you" level of power and basically act as Deus Ex Machinas when they appear.

How do angels work when you have multiple gods. Do they fight each other?

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Its said in the bible that the devil himself was an angel that became rebellious, so I like to keep mine just a little less powerful than him.

Also they are basically demons, being all manner of crafty, mysterious, and getting into all sorts of fuckery. Except they serve the 'good' gods.
Also demons are pretty differential. Many are created by the Devil (capital D), but some are fallen angels which become demon lords or devils themselves.

Awe inspiring creatures to behold, not simply beings of flesh, but made of the very spirit and breath of the world they are part of.

Wheels within wheels, multiple heads, wings spanning the distance between heaven, many eyes, mouths, etc.

>>50368251
Look, if all apotheosis took was living caffein free and wearing special underwear I'd be all about it. Hell, I'd even move to Utah. The problem is that there's no guarantee of a return on your investment.

>>50367716
Got that covered for mine.

>Souls are power in setting.
>When people die, their souls go to the god their most "attuned" to to be absorbed into him and add to his power.
>Some souls the gods deem too useful to simply absorb, so they grant a small portion of their power to the soul to complete tasks he won't/can't himself.
>These empowered souls are the setting's Angels.

>Necromancers specialize in the use of stealing and manipulating souls to create various forms of undead
>As much as Angels hate Necromancers and would love to smite them, Necromancers are also the most dangerous things to them, as the right magic used to bend a soul could capture and enslave an agent of the gods.
>Most necromancers are also hold up on an island that Angels can't go near. The ones that did suddenly vanish without a trace.
>The necromancers have no idea why it happens, and the last one who used Scrying magic to figure it out died very painfully as he shriveled into a dry lifeless husk, in a manner identical to someone having their soul forcefully ripped from their bodies.

>>50384454
Fun fact - Mormons do not have a no caffeine rule, it just coffee and tea.

>>50384811
See? Even more attractive. Just give me demonstrable proof of apotheosis and I'm there.

>>50367374
Benevolent eldritch horrors
Or sexy
Or benevolent sexy angelic horrors

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Inhumanly awe-inspiring, please.

>>50367716
How I addressed in my homebrew pathfinder setting is that angels, demons, devils, etc are types of alien, ones that slightly warp and shift the area around them. If too many outsiders of the same type congregate in an area reality shifts to accommodate them. Angels are good hearted eldritch beings and do legitimately want to help but they know that any sort of large-scale presence will cause the planet to be uninhabitable by mortals so they help through intermediaries, long distance psychic communication, assistance through supplies, or very short-term excursions (a dozen or so angels can't stay for more than a few days before they warp the area around them, however they can do a lot of damage in that time). Demons simply don't give a fuck and the ones that are aware that they ruin the worlds they visit consider it a mixed blessing (fewer people to bother them, but also fewer people to terrorize).

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>>50387606
>It's a setting where angels are trolls that try to tempt humanity into the ways of vice and bully them because they think it's fun
>Humans are powerless to do anything against it, so they just learn to tolerate angels
>Angels are now upset because humans aren't as easily frustrated as before, so their schemes and pranks become more and more elaborate over time
>Because of this, stoicism has become an incredibly popular philosophy among mortals

>>50376107
Ascendancy!

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>>50375275
Best angel. Closest thing I've ever had to a waifu

>>50375679
Futurama: The Beast with a Billion Backs

>>50368391
Tips fedora.

Dude are even familiar at all with the early church?

Or even fucking Buddhism?

Like Bruh.

>>50375778
izual is my copilot

>>50367714
Source?

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>THICC

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>>50375275
7 Juggernaut Star Scours The Universe, ever since his unfortunate encounter with a certain Maya 'Murder The Gods and Topple Their Thrones' Mantra.

Still best angel though

>>50391061
MIS-TAKE

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Azrael/Izra'il is best angel

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>>50391113
Best page in the chapter.

>>50391061
>>50391113
>>50391273
k6bd is sjw shit

>>50391389
Sure, but Thorn Angels are cool

>>50389972
Brilliant point.

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Sexy, protective, warrior babes.
Mostly gentle and supportive, not usually taking direct action. Unless of course, someone fucks up one of their wards. Hell hath no fury like a pissed off angel.

>>50368409
>ascended humans
annndd fucking dropped

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>>50367374
Sexy, spooky, and even the lowest classes are practically invincible. Due to the nature of the religions in my setting they're all good. None are particularly vindictive, but there's the class of Seal Team Six angels that would make even the most zealous paladins look sheepish. Fortunately though, they're rarely used. In fact, angels rarely show up in my setting.

They can't lie. It's very hard, becaue the PC's think they're good guys, but they're actually malicious and trying to kill the benevolent gods.

>>50391273
>best page
>forgetting P~E~R~I~hummppfff

>>50375275
How is that wheel even connected to the rest of the bike?

>>50367374
Depends on the god.

But if we're talking about something of not!Catholic expy in a fantasy setting, then his angels would be bound to a specific role (or in this case to represent certain emotions of his or character elements).

In terms of looks, this would depend on the race of the person they are meeting with, but it always would be a combination of to what emotion they are bound and physical perfection (the females being the epitome of sexy while the males being chads so hot they make girls all faint), or in some cases looking completely alien like the Zoroastrian ones.

The same applies to devils and daemons, though the latter aren't purely good or evil (and most of the time are neutral and want nothing to do with mortals most of the time).

>>50387606
>>50388021
I'd read the fuck out that setting.

>>50367716
>I feel like a lot of settings need better explanations for why angels don't just smite the necromancers and naughty dragons themselves
The Answer I've always given is they do, it's not uncommon for major evil threats who start causing chaos or massive destruction to suddenly have a hit squad of angels dropping out of the sky to wreak their shit

>>50389972
>THICC angel
>Crushes evil between them thighs
>Much gentler when rewarding good

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I prefer them as beings just here to lend a hand.
A city-sized, sin-obliterating hand.
I actually prefer keeping demons/devils smaller than angels, to help represent the idea that they are angels who have had what was special about them taken away. Angels are servant gods serving under a superior being, and when they're fired they lose their job's previous benefits.

>>50391182
>1000 wings
>1 eye and 1 tongue for every living human
I guess there are about 10 humans living at the time of that picture then?

>>50391389
It has some stupid tumblr shit in it to be sure (a fanfiction writer, seriously?) but the majority of it is weird barlowe paintings illustrating a hindu inspired world. With some shitty story happening in it.
Just appreciate the art.

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>>50367374
>How do you like your angels?
Waifuable

>>50396759
>>50389972
serena pls go back to the group and contribute to the discussion on what game we should run

>>50367374
>How do you like your angels?
T H I C C
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I like them spooky

>>50367374

I like the angels to be pretty subtle operators as far as mortals are concerned; an adventurer is much less likely to ever see one in their lifetime than they are to see a fiend of some sort unless circumstances have become quite dire. When they do appear, however, they are awe-inspiring. I personally like the idea that the angels have strange true forms, especially as they ascend in the hierarchy, but choose to take on idealized human-like forms so that mortals will not be afraid of them, and to remind them that any good soul could rise to join the Host.

They're helpful and benevolent, because I've never really been a fan of "the demons are as bad as advertised but angels are ALSO dicks," but the fact they don't want to rule the mortal world or dominate people's lives the way fiends do mean their intervention and help on the mortal plane tends to be a lot less direct, and the fiends have to stay pretty sneaky themselves because the last time the Heavenly Host saw things getting serious enough to throw subtlety to the winds, evil got its shit pushed in hard.

>>50396820
I am not this person, but based off of the pictures you referenced I am now interested in the group. Link?

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>>50398590
I don't think you are. It's the steam group for the currently dead MTG snowflake thread.

MTG Flakes Waifus and Lore if you're actually interested, if you just want THICC angel pics though I can hook you up.

The Angels in my game start as humans that have received the gift of the Divine.
Because the Goddess likes a particular body shape/type, invariably the Angels all look homogeneous: blonde hair, green eyes, tall and beautiful.
However, as an angel progresses, they lose their humanity. Deific intelligence and wisdom is different from human intelligence and wisdom.

>>50398801
I'm principally interested in THICC.

>>50398801
I'll take both please.

The angels were simply the earliest humans who still had a direct, inborn connection to the creator god of the universe. They were ageless (though not immortal), possessed amazing physical, magical, and intellectual prowess, and glowed radiantly as they were imbued with the energy of the sun. In one campaign, a necromancer decided to reanimate the corpse of a particularly famous angel who was prophesied to return one day to purge the world of evil, and then control this angel to manipulate the church into doing his bidding. The party failed to stop the reanimation, but the resurrected angel had lost himself and his glow, and thus neither spoke nor appeared as he must for the necromancer's plan to be fulfilled. His plans foiled, he had the creature attack the party, and it was intentionally a fight the party could not hope to win. The cleric of the party, who was a member of the church of the sun, appealed to the angel with creeds and prayers, and it caused him to remember who he was.

Unfortunately, who he was, was an Arch Inquisitor during the war against hell, who died long before the gods had left humanity to its own devices, and so he was convinced that the humans, who had lost their glow, had been tainted by evil. After destroying the necromancer cult, he assumed control of the church of the sun, and subsequently most of the game world, as a theocratic empire. A sequel campaign involved figuring out how to destroy the angel and then finding a way to get to him.

>>50367374
Ultra lawful but not necessarily good.

>>50398801
THICC angels please or just good THICC. I've seen too much fatposting pawned off as THICC of late.

>>50398801
>THICC angel pics though I can hook you up
Do you have a drop box, a mega, or an imgur? Or were you just planning on dumping in thread?

I haven't made a full tally but it does seem that Thicc Angels are currently ahead of Angry Geometric Shape Angels in the polls.

>>50403923
Because who doesn't want a powerful, smite-capable, divinely tittied waifu? This isn't rocket science, anon.

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>>50403887
>>50403023
>>50399035
>>50399065
http://imgur.com/a/OxXfb

Here, aside from what I already posted ITT this is all the rest of the character. Commissioned by thirsty fellas who wanted porn of the resident THICC angel.
Posting imgur link because it's NSFW
There was a fair amount of smut written about her in the flake threads too but I don't have access to the google drive from this device.

Have fun.

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I really adore the nWoD angel concept of them being hardly anything more than machines that are put to a single task with near total obedience just to be retrieved, broken down, and a new one is assembled out of old parts

>>50404523
>THICC

>>50367374

Like the mothman from the Mothman Prophecies; spooky, and ultimately very unhelpful

>>50367374
Depends on the setting. I mostly go either to Valkyrie-esque angels or to Old testament weird-and-incomprehensibly-beautiful. Settings with the old testament lot, though, tend to also have Grigori, which are more human like what with their desires to teach people about science, art, and cosmetics and consummate relations with mortal women.

>>50404523
THICC indeed.

>>50406694
I agree with this anon. In high fantasy settings with players tossing magic and psychic powers around, I use angels like undying valkyrie warrior types (thought male and female) who are nothing but celestial war machines.

But in lower power settings? Angels should be terrifying and hope-crushing. Higher tiers should sap at your sanity just being near them, fuck looking at them. Even the lowest tiers should have a bit of uncanny valley quality, like G-Man from Half life or (If anyone remembers it) Christopher Walken from The Prophecy. They should be quicker than most eyes can follow, immune to what most would consider everyday weaponry, and should treat such mortal concepts as high tractor trailers, steel-reinforced concrete walls and reinforced steel APC plating as we might treat papier-mache

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I like them like I like my elves which is some pair of the following:
>cute
>badass
>spooky

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>>50409857
bamp

>>50411258
I used to really enjoy how the angels worked on Innistrad.

>>50411289
How do angles work on Innistrad? Also, why "used to"?

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>>50367374
I like them as unstoppable forces against mortal races.

>>50412206
>Also, why "used to"?
not him but a lot of them went a little crazy

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>>50412206
They got made insane by MTG Cthulu then the vast majority of them died or turned into monsters like pic related and then died.

>>50411258
The angel from this pic was super great but she was the first to go mad and got dusted by her creator.

>>50391778
The sinners' arms.

>>50412229
>unstoppable forces
I'm pretty sure humans will find a way to kill anything given time.
This climate change bullshit was probably one guy going, "well, you can't kill a planet" and another replying "Watch me, bitch."

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Holding The Goddamn Line.

>>50412715
I mean even a Chaos Marine's gotta be shitting his pants a little in this situation

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>>50412335
Yeah, there was no good reason for them to hatchet the Innistrahd angels the way they did. Stupid edgelord shit for the sake of stupid edgelord shit.

>>50412715
I never realized just how shit the background is on that picture. The Aquila in the background is completely asymmetrical. Makes me feel a damn lot better about my own shit.

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I'm a fan of the Diablo depiction.

>>50412857
What's the deal behind them being completely black? Is it that their appearance can't be understood by mortals?

>>50412857
I do like the weird ethereal tentacle wings. Those've always looked neat to me.

>>50413062

No its to be PC.

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I like themenstatued

>>50413283
If that were the case, they'd just give then normal human skin tones.

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>>50412783
I hear you. Shit was lame af.

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>>50413709
Before Diablo 3, they were just faceless beings composed of sound and given light so they could appear before the mortal eye.
After Diablo 3, it's because... that's just how they like to dress.

Though while I think the "to be PC" line is dumb, it did draw some attention when one angel chose to become mortal and appeared like this.

>>50414018
Oh, so it was just a case of simplification?

>Captcha's now making me draw lines around things.

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>>50367374
They are as helpful as they can be. Primarily they respect the independence of those on the material plane. They mostly intervene in order to counteract devilish forces. Sometimes a lesser angel will appear to one who calls them.

>Lesser angels appear like as they did as mortals but as they become older and wiser the illusion of their form becomes less necessary.
However enlightened angels are more in-tune with the natural workings of the universe and require less direct intervention to have their will done, so their forms are rarely seen, when they do act they are wonderful and terrible to behold.


>Angels themselves are spirits and ghosts who, for whatever reason, dwell close to our dimension and have sworn benevolence.
What benevolence means is slightly up for interpretation even amongst angels but they generally have a good gut instinct for right action. Angels do organise themselves into Courts. Courts are fluid, they emerge when needed and die when they are finished their purpose. From time to time they do battle with one another but often these are short and discrete with little collateral damage. Courts are necessary for lesser angels but can be a quick path to corruption, Old angels have little use of them.

Many once mortal angels struggle with vengeance, loss or fear of the universe beyond. These tend to be the most righteous, as we understand them, but also the most at risk of corruption. These are the Gandalf types, they do the best they can to save the world but enjoy a smoke and a good song along the way too.

>Angels can't manifest materially
Unless powerful crafts, or the will of a god or old angel are involved. However then can inhabit willing host, plant or animal, or dead bodies or specially created vessels. They can also speak though dreams and omens.
If on Old Angel ever decides to make an appearance in the flesh it usually means shit has gotten real. Reality is going to get very weird for the next few days.

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>>50367374

Angels are generic constructs used by the "good" Gods. They serve various purposes, from carrying messages, to enforcing order, or simply smiting those that made the gods really angry. They are created in the Divine Realm by molding ambient magic and then setting it ablaze with a divine spark of order, the template to which the spark was applied and that magic shaped determining the type of angel created. After creation, Angels are blank slates that embody order in some form and are receptive to orders from their God. From then on they are dispatched on various missions and are sent on busywork until they die, at which point their essence coalesces back into the Divine Realm. They vary wildly in form and tunction, and any strange and alien forms may be attributed to the Gods being weird assholes. No God has any unique forms of angels, as the angel forms were all codified between the Gods, with new ones being added to the pool every once and a while. Each God has their own pattern of Servitors that they may craft to their choosing, so those serve any specialised need that only one God may possess. Angels are by default a few steps short of sapience, but a few that stay active and are not subsed for their raw essence eventually coalesce enough experience so that their memory collapses into a singularity where a spark of sapience is formed. The newly sentient angel is dubbed an "Ultimate One," and possesses a sense of self awareness, free will, and rebelliousness. These are very rare and incredibly powerful, but many experience severe identity crises as a result of losing the extreme order that made them an Angel

>>50416564
What

>>50412206
WotC took a shit on them because they wanted to retcon Avacyn Restored and couldn't think of a tasteful way to do it.

>>50412857
I really liked the Diablo depiction as a kid because there was on god's green earth that could convince ten-year-old me that a shadowy face-concealing hood wasn't the coolest look ever. I liked seeing a holy, bible-camp-approved good guy have that appearance for once.

>>50419381
>there was no force on god's green earth

I shouldn't type so excitedly on my phone.

>>50419140
>retcon the best set
Why even.

>>50420101
Because they decide their sets based on focus groups now.

>>50420101
>>50420128
I imagine it's because Innistrad is supposed to be the dark and spooky plane and after Avacyn Restored they were like "Shit, it's not dark and spooky anymore"

That and nothing good can happen to angels in MTG. The good ones die and the rest are all near genocidal/fanatical assholes

>>50420281
AVR was supposed to be a surge of hope and light but ultimately without Emrakul it should have settled back into the dark and spoopy nature. Avacyn is back but so are all the demons and the other evil aren't going anywhere. The real mistake was getting rid of the woofers.

Really I feel like Avacyn and the angels were a victim of the Gatewatch, same as Sorin. They need to be heroes of the story so any character more powerful and competent has to be removed from the picture so that they don't upstage them.

>>50367374
with some incest fetish.

>>50420101
Lot of people hated AVR. It felt an utterly undeserved and unfitting 'happy ending' like the original theatrical ending to Blade Runner. And it got rid of Werewolves/DFCs which had been a big, big draw. They needed to pull back to a point where Innistrad could be dark, spooky, and gothic, which while implied possible for lore nerds in AVR didn't come out in the set.

Most seemed to like Eldritch Moon even less, though. The Lovecraft touches in Shadows were done alright but when Emrakul comes out in force it goes from "gothic" to "Apocalyptic MST3K Fodder" which is just as unfitting as sunshine-and-angels but FAR less sexy.

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>>50421188
All the same disappointment with regards to theme but without any of the amazing thigh goddesses.

>>50371494
This sounds suspiciously like Xanth

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>>50367374
cuddly but strong.

>>50421664
fuck off piers

>>50420729
>Avacyn is back but so are all the demons and the other evil aren't going anywhere.
Well, she's "back" but she's not back. She isn't the point of light she used to be. Honestly, it's like they turned Innistrahd into bad Ravenloft fanfiction.

>>50421188

The issue was in many ways with the new set 'We were JUST here. We JUST fixed the angel problems!'. If there had been another problem other than 'Angels are going crazy/being corrupted' it wouldn't have come across so badly.

That and being a gothic horror setting with actual forces of bright goodness was a nice change of pace from many that go 'Devils but no angels'. But instead we ended up with 'Yep Evil angels and Emrakul. This is the opposite of an interesting surprise'.

If they'd wanted to do this as a theme they really needed to have another arc between the first one and it. One to establish the new status quo and what the world was like with the angels and devils returned in force rather than immediately shaking it up and reverting back to 'Yep, no angels saving people'.

>>50414018

Actually, angels are still beings of sound and light in diablo 3; Tyreal is the one exception, because he gave up his immortality, effectively electing to become flesh and bone like humans are instead of an immortal creature of light and sound, because the other angels were not JUSTICE enough for him and when they called him out for believing in humans, he put his money where his mouth was.

>>50369585
You're doing god's work anon.

>>50422872
Innistrad went from apocalypse, to fixed then back to worse than during the apocalypse in the space of a fucking year.

Good job WotC.

They look like the perfect being. This changes based on who is observing them.

>>50412857
>>50413256

Babylon 5 Vorlon-inspired angels are best angels.

>>50367650
The lore regarding angels is one of the few things PF did well.

>>50367374
>How do you like your angels?
In my setting, Angels are a collectivist hivemind that believes in fulfilling all needs, but abstaining from want and desire. They wish to unite the world and grant it plenty, so long as the world is willing to give up its carnal lusts and ambitions.

The demons love desire, however, and want everyone to aim for them as the ultimate good. To them, personal ambition is the only duty. Your wants and needs outweigh all others, and you should not belittle yourself for the needs of those around you. To them, that is no better than slavery.

Ironically, angels in my setting are also more likely to betray. They do for the greater good first and foremost, and will switch sides when they see that it suits the greater good. But a devil's word is his bond... they will never make an oath unless they absolutely mean to uphold it. That's where demonic contracts come from.

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>>50391389
In what possible sense

Unless having a female protagonist is "SJW" now.

>>50428063
Do not engage with the /v/tard.

>>50368214

Second one sounds realllllly Buddhist.

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>>50367374
The ones below the gods are generally humanoid (or noble animal) in appearance, and are exemplars of their god. They're generally good, though often cold to those other than whoever they're sent to help.

The ones above the gods only manifest if something's seriously fucked up. When they do, it's generally terrifying and in opposition to all natural laws. In form, the only generally true thing about them is that they have many of something. Otherwise, they exist formless around the edge of the world.

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I like Alan Rickman

>>50429058
I especially like how he's preparing for dogma 2

>>50429417
Oh...

>>50396069
>Just appreciate the art.
I want to, but Jesus Christ I hate how it's similar to that ubiquitous popular tumblr style I can't even articulate why but the facial proportions, and the noses, and the sketchy linework and the coloring and oh god it just makes me angry to look at it it's the opposite of aesthetically pleasing.

God damn it, I could write a book about how I feel about angels in my stories. Somebody keep this thread alive for about eighteen hours.

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>>50367374
Uncompromising executor's of will of THE LORD, God's personal monsters.

>>50429544
I hated it at first, but it's been growing on me. IMHO, it's not so much bad as it is odd. That said, I also wasn't aware that there was a "Tumblr" style - I generally avoid Tumblr. All things considered, though, KSBD is one of the better webcomics I've read.

>>50429544
we know you can do it, man.
Don't do it for yourself, so it for 6 Juggernaut Star.

>>50430143
Well, I'm not sure if it's really a style for the whole site, but a lot of the ones people single out for being good examples of why the artists who socialize on there are "bad" share some common traits, often being sort of flat sketchy half cartoon half "realistic" style that alternates between too thin and too thick lines that doesn't really have the benefit of feeling well composed, or the feeling of minimalism and seems to be trying to create it's own "tradition" of drawing or something by borrowing pieces from here and there, but instead feels just uninspired and bland in a bad way.

I dunno man, I ain't no artist so I don't got the words to explain it but it triggers me something fierce. Don't know why.

I like my angels non existent, just like the gods, demons, fantasy races and monsters and magic.

the only thing that exists is a 2 by 2 foot room in which each person is locked into for all eternity. There is no light or smell or sound or sensation whatsoever. Humanity is birthed inside this technological ball and eventually die.

Every time a player asks if they can do something or tries to do something, I say no and deduct 100 experience.

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>>50428063
Having a transgender one is

>>50430647
Unless your angels breed, there's no reason they need be women or men.

>>50430738
>he doesn't breed his angles after telling them they're acute

>>50430738
That's the point. That angel has taken mortal form too long and has, in effect, been infected by mortal culture to the point where it feels it has a gender (it happens to have picked "female"). Its fellow angels consider this a disorder and want to force it to stay incorporeal in heaven long enough for it to remember what it is, and that gender is for mortals.

(Angels in that setting are conventionally referred to as male when necessary, since they descend from the male half of the bifurgated god the original creator-of-everything split into, who also represents order and stasis. Demons descend from the female half, who also represents chaos and vitality.)

>>50430778
So the writer stole the trope of genderless thing choosing to identify with a gender, but because it's a female you call it SJW?

Do you call people SJW's when they call ships "she" too?

>>50430833
I wasn't the one calling it SJW, just giving info on how it works for people who may not have read the comic.

The angels in the comic repeatedly mention that the issue is that it insists on a particular gender at all, not that it insists on the "wrong" gender.

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>>50367374
Equal parts righteous retribution and divine judgements in more-or-less humanoid forms. Their motivations and logic processes almost entirely unknowable because the difference between mortal interpretation of Divine will and what the Divine actually wants.

Yes, they'd smite loyal Paladins occasionally.

When Angels show up, everyone fears to tread.

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>>50367374
Angels are essentially just conscripted souls in God's army. They just look like how they did back in life except with a bit more gaudy and light added to them.

They're generally very helpful and willing to stay down when summoned by clerics and paladins. Mostly because being sent back to fight eternally against elemental demigods is incredibly boring to them.

>>50427422
Space progenitor angels are pretty great.

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>>50375953
Wonder what they were on when they designed them all.

>>50367374
The Angels I have are more mortal than most. Like falling from grace is an everyday threat. Some fall more than most. The Justicars fall more than the Solars. WHen they do fall, everything goes to shit.

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In my homebrew setting, they never existed, though some Gods have bestowed powers on specific spirits to serve in their place. The Gods greatly prefer mortal agents, as well as their unique Demons.

In my current setting, well, it's the Forgotten Realms in the year 1492, so it's just FR stuff.

In my own writing style in general, though, outside any specific setting, I like a very wide variety of angel types, from the gentle guardians and guides of injured souls, to the apocalyptic badasses, to the kind and sensual sort that give good dreams and even stay with mortals (Aasimar have to come from somewhere), to the almost robotic killing machines. It depends on which one I need for that setting on that day.

>>50439466
Iona is best. 100ft of angel waifu.

>>50440747
You could build a house in her cleavage.