Pathfinder General /pfg/ >THIS IS IMPORTANT! If you want

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>>50359808
Kender.

I gotta admit I hate the fuck out of abhumans. Filthy crossbreeding shitters.

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>>50359808
Kitsune, Catgirls, etc.

Remove Furry!

>>50359808
Can we please cool it with the NTR memes? We're getting people demotivated over this shit.

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Have you ever used Dragons in your games?
I think they're supposed to be somewhat common-ish, or at least that's the picture I've gotten from Dragons Revisited.
Something like "Dragons? Oh, haven't seen one myself but one visited the next town south some three years ago, I think?"

>>50359831
But how do actual animals make you feel?

>>50359848
They're where they belong, between my legs

>>50359808
>Which race do you hate the most?
FUCK. DWARVES.

>>50359808
Kitsune.

>>50359836
I don't get why people are getting discouraged. Because NToRacle has an interesting backstory now? Or because he is such a good skill monkey?

Does anyone have that one pdf with suggestions to fix or differentiate the various martial styles in Pathfinder?

>>50359895
Because all the NTR discussion is annoying and disgusting.

>>50359895
Both considering he's a better skill monkey than most other people and also is an amalgam of shit other people wanted to do.

And honestly I think it's less interesting than the Dwarf.

>>50359895
Both of those reasons, plus a bit more. Putting work into a character only to have it ignored over "lolNTR", "lolTHICC" isn't motivating. It also make it harder to refine the character when nobody will discuss weakpoints or areas that you could improve on.

>>50359903
I mean DHB doesn't like the NTR talk either.

Rolled 2, 3 + 2 = 7 (2d6 + 2)

Aasimar Cleric, please ignore

>>50359924
Wasn't blaming them, but the topic has dominated the past how many threads?

>>50359936
After a certain point, he's complicit in this too because he intentionally made a diplomancer meant to break the romance system.

>>50359950
Literally not how the romance system works.

>>50359950
The whole thing started when he build a crazy high op diplomancer with the intent of progressing with each of the options, but only ending with ameiko or whatever.

He brought this upon all of us.

>>50359955
I mean it pretty much is. The character gets a +52 to whatever they need once a day, the Highest max relationship score is like a 40.

>>50359999
No, you need to raise your relationship above their romance score. All high diplomacy means is he makes the check so every level it progresses by 2 instead of 1. The majority of a character's relationship score with a character is based on events and not gifts/insults.

Do people not actually read the rules for it?

>>50360017
I'm aware, but that's +1 more than what everyone else is getting.
>The majority of a character's relationship score with a character is based on events
I was honestly not aware of this.

I mean that still doesn't change the fact that he built the character pretty much to cheese the system like that. The fact that he seems to be an almagam of several character talents/motivations that have been posted in both threads is also suspect., but I'm not going to fault him for that.

>>50359967
>crazy high OP
he literally took 3 human racial feats

>>50360017

I've tallied the event scores and you still don't have enough unless you spec into diplomacy and play the gift game.

Fighters get shafted in that system.

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How's everyone's homebrews coming along, /pfg/?

I just did a massive rehaul with my Avatar class for balance and fluff purposes. Tell me what you think of it, now?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10dEgLazR1i9O9Cs0z-6Znw96ocJPu3CVGuEOkCEfqLw/edit?usp=sharing

Its a Divine Barbarian, that transforms into an Elemental. He gains access to Wraths, which boosts his elemental transformation, granting him staples like a breath attack, as well as other more unique abilities like controlling nonmagical flames or quicksanding foes.

>>50360017
It's still 4 from trait + charisma + 2 for a gift at each level and all that's before roleplaying major events well, which he'll likely do.

>>50360047
Are you telling me that a +52 to whatever they need 1/day is not crazy high op?

>>50360042

They list the secret events in the back of the books and it's only like, one or two events that give a +2 to someone.

Assuming you complete every secret event and recognize leveling up adds a +1, you're looking at like, a 36-38 for Ameiko in the Book 6 endgame.

>>50360047
To cheese out his diplomacy score super high for no reason other than to bust this system at the behest of memes.

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>>50360064
The trickshot sniper (now called the trickshot hood) has gotten a massive revamp to help make earlier levels better since 1st level was really jank for them.

>>50360065
>Are you telling me that a +52 to whatever they need 1/day is not crazy high op?
It's +32 once a day to skill checks. Go look at his character sheet.

>>50360065
>It's still 4 from trait + charisma + 2 for a gift at each level and all that's before roleplaying major events well, which he'll likely do.
I mean yes. He plans on romancing Ameiko. I don't see why this is a problem.

>>50360098
link?

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>>50360098
I might put on up later, maybe as a mini playtest for the weekend, working with a new rookie dev with it to help them get some experience in the industry.

>>50360085
Actually it isn't just diplomacy. He can do that for any skill he has. It's a floating +32 once a day.

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>>50360121
Jolly, did you manage to take a look at my homebrews yet?
I did the Empyreus and the Avatar

>>50360109
He's also on file for saying he planned to try to increase the romance score for everyone but only end up with ameiko. That's where the NTR thing came in from. And a +32 once a day is still enough to cheese the relationship system for a +2 with nat 1's until 24, which would probably come after he get's more of a bonus to diplo, so it'd go even farther.

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>>50360121
Hey Jolly.

Damn you for making your stuff so good, I'm actually gonna hafta buy Legendary Vigs if I get into this game. I'm operating off old copies of playtest docs until then.

Question though, where was the best place to buy your stuff again? Was it DriveThru?

>>50360121
That awoo looks really comfy!

>>50360145
Not yet, mostly because I've had a ton of stuff of my own. Aren't they on the Paizo boards too? I'll probably comment there since it'll be more visible

.>>50360156
Thanks, I try. It's why this trickshot is taking me so long to get perfect now that I have a new junior dev on board.

Number 1 place would be drivethru with my associate link (which are all on my paizo page:
http://paizo.com/people/NJolly)

Number 2 is the LG website since I think everyone makes more there.
http://www.makeyourgamelegendary.com/

Number 3 is on Paizo so I make it on the top 10 list and it makes me look better.

>>50360158
Ya know, it really does.

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Right now the things on my review list are getting my review of the Spellburst Savant out so I can help out Forrest, and then hopefully I'll get onto other things after this whole sample character thing is over.

>>50360170
>Aren't they on the Paizo boards too?

Nice, you actually noticed. I'm touched.

>>50360151
I don't see that being NTR-ish. He has displayed interest in a certain character.

>>50360183
dude just accept the meme

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Does ANYONE have a working kingdom building system?

Paizo's system sucks. I want my players to own a fiefdom, become lords of their own lands and build it into a city over time.

>>50360183
The point was that he could swoop in and steal your waifu from under you. The bald, dwarf with 8 cha aspect made it seem even more like a typical NTRing old man.

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>>50360181
Of course I did, I have the thread on my watch list. I actually like to check out homebrew when I can, but where I'm at now isn't the best for being able to review it. Also Mercurial Duelist should be out tomorrow in Asian Archetypes: Martials as far as I'm aware.

>>50359808
What's a good Gestalt for a vitalist? I was looking at medic but I don't really know if I could balance my point buy to use the combat. Are there many good mono-wis classes or at least wis-primary classes with some healing?

>>50360191
Do you really think someone like DHB would do that?

Besides we don't have the description of NToRacle. For all we know he could be extremely handsome. What's his attractiveness score? Have we rolled his dick size yet?

>>50360202
Tactician. Their class features complement each other greatly.

>>50360210
it was a meme you dip

>>50360215
>Tactician
>Cha+Int class
>Vitalist
>Wis class
Also the tactician like melee attacks too? It's not gonna go to well my dude.

>>50360188
Isn't there an entire system based around this? Starts with an A.

>>50360210
>Being handsome with a big dick doesn't make it NTR

>>50360230
Nah, the Tactician and Vitalist are in the middle of the group, not at the forefront.

If you're fighting instead of sharing buffs and transferring hitpoints, you're not doing your job right.

Doesn't matter if you invest in 2 mental stats, you'll barely ever use your physical stats except Dex.

Not to mention, you essentially take on the role of party leader, party face and party healer. Your group will suck your dick.

>>50360188
>>50360233

ACKs. Adventurer Conquer King

All you will ever need.

>>50360253
Ehhhh, I dunno. I guess it could work out but that's still 3 mental stats I'd need to focus on. I'd be a little bit of a physical invalid. A psionic battle battery, but an invalid nonetheless.

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>>50360271
I love you faggots. no homo.
maybe a little homo maybe a light kiss on the pecker

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>>50360277

I didnt think it would post that. This is the only other piece I would recommend. It is army details and whatnot.

>>50360266
Even with fully dumped 8s in all three physical stats you're still not an invalid. Scrawny and worthy of some mockery at the gym, plus you throw like a girl, but you're nowhere near invalid.

Honestly, no one's gonna take a quadraplegic out adventuring with them anyways unless they can permanently effortlessly float wherever and do all the things that need doing without any limbs. Liabilities are bad.

>>50360299
Not really, he could just play an old character.
elderly drop their physical stats a raise their mental stats.

A vitalist / tactician would be like a general or de facto leader or team dad. He doesn't need to be the biggest baddest brute in the group, because he's just as invaluable as a wizard.

>>50360299
I guess 7-8's aren't so bad for most of my physical stats. Especially if I can do a bunch for my allies. I'll play some small race and ride on someone's back so I can use them for cover.

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>>50359839
Have not used dragons, would love to use dragoons. Their shtick is jumping - they're supposed to in fluff be anti-dragon 'knights' capable of actually battling them in the skies due to their extreme jumping and ability to safe-fall, they can go *up* to fight a flying dragon and stay up to fight multiple, they're sort of lightning-bruisers, really evasive in combat.

Probably doable via piercing thunder / primal fury.

FF4 has a funny distinction in the after years where regular dragoons can become "Holy dragoons" and use some white magic in addition to their leaping abilities.

FF9 (in its early prototypes) had dragoons emulate a single dragon: Males often emulating the mighty sky-dragon bahamut, and Women often emulating the terrifying water-dragon Leviathan. One of the main party members is a knight/dragoon and in addition to jumping she also throws her spear quite a bit.

FF14 treats lancers/dragoons as a melee dps that likes to attack from the sides or rear.

Legend of Mana also has dragoons, and they're often identified as "dragon knights" imbued with a fraction of the dragons power - capable of fighting along side the dragon either in air or on ground, they are also rather goddamn good at killing dragons.

>>50360309
I once played a Dragoon.

Soulknife.
Used the teleportation blade trick to emulate jump.

Since I'm using a mindblade, I can throw my spears without worry.

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>>50360307
At least go for midlife crisis instead of yet-another-team-dad if you go that route.

>>50360318
Heavensward was a dragoon oriented expansion for FF14. The 'warrior of light' (basically the story protagonist) drops his marauder/warrior class to become a dragoon in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAoBojYsuOI

In the newest Stormblood trailer, the WoL becomes a monk.

>>50360323
How many Dads do we have so far?

>>50360298
>>50360271
>>50360277

ACKS kinda sucks

The rules could be boiled down to Spend X gold: Get a 1.33 return on your investment

>>50360346
Is it better than BANKS the city the system?

>>50360334
Dragoon needed a LOT of love. Much like many people hoped Cataclysm would be all about the Shaman in WoW (except probably the actual elemental players on the forums; they've looped around past the deep end of jaded and back across a hundred times before, they knew they'd take it up the ass), the Dragoon was in a bad bad place, doing meh DPS despite low utility and with animation lockdowns that were absolutely fatal once you got around to EX bosses.

They needed the help, and from what I'm told they're far more playable now than they were.

>>50360346
>>50360354

One of the biggest problems is everything is completely interchangeable.

Like, there's no difference if you spent 10000 gold building peasant houses, a nice town center, some alchemy shop, a brothel, whatever, you upgrade your demense by X amount so you get Y goodies in return

>>50360323
>Ran away from his family to become an adventurer before he became to old
>Still kinda loves his family and keeps a memento with him
Why do I wanna play this more and more. This was supposed to be a healslut not a feelslut.

>>50360371

On the other hand, I love all the rules for running ships: supply costs for travelling, fees for each port you stop at, you know how many units of goods you can transport, you know how much you can pay/charge for transportation aboard a merchant ship, how much it costs to privately charter one, etc.

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>>50360309
>>50360334
So I'm aware that there's a DC10 fly check to avoid losing 10 feet of altitude after taking damage... Shouldn't that be DC10+[damage value]?

Cause it seems to me like a part of what dragoons did was very large singular "fuckoff" strikes that brought their flying opponents down to the ground (if it didnt outright kill them). You see in the heavensward video 4 separate dragoons land their jumping attacks against a dragon to bring it down.

>>50360361
I'm aware. Part of it too was that dragoons had like 0 magic resistance on their gear, so getting hit by a spell just completely destroyed you (you were supposed to be using jump to avoid magic damage I guess?) but in boss fights there were unavoidable aoes, or aoes in general that if you jumped to avoid you'd end up eating shit from something else.

I like how FF14 ones use a lot more halberd like weapons - it seems to lend their weapons a lot of weight and give them something outside of thrusting attacks when on ground.

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>>50360396
I hate the women's armor for that. Like, it's cute, but I don't want my gaping belly exposed to be skewered.

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>>50360405

shit taste desu

>>50360396
Your best method of Dragooning safely is with Boots of the Cat. They drop your fall damage to 1 each damage die.

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>>50360417
My taste may be objectively bad but I still hold to it!

>>50359808
Goblins. They're the Kender of Pathfinder.

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>>50360309
There's Dragoons in/for Pathfinder?

>>50360378
That magic armor and weapon, they're his luxury sports-car; not a pure performance machine like you would've gotten and modded at 20, but one with all the little comforts and a GPS, maybe Mercedes SLC, because he tried the BAC Mono and it hurt his back after a few minutes and there wasn't any seat-warmer.

>>50360309
>would love to use dragoons.

You probably didn't notice this, but dragoon vault-crashing is legit powerful in PF thanks to falling damage rules.

"Rule: Creatures that fall take 1d6 points of damage per 10 feet fallen, to a maximum of 20d6. Just as characters take damage when they fall more than 10 feet, so too do they take damage when they are hit by falling objects. If an object falls more than 150 feet, it deals double the listed damage. Note that a falling object takes the same amount of damage as it deals."

At a height of 150 ft. you could deal 20d6x2 against anything below.

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>>50360432
There's actually going to be a dragoon option in KOP 4, the kinetic lancer that deals a lot with high jumps, impaling people with energy spears, and stuff like that.

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>>50360436
>Uses seat warmer
What kind of horrible monster is he
Does he even use coasters

>>50360445
There are rules specifically for falling objects hitting creatures, and I don't believe creatures count as objects. The fall damage the player takes wouldn't transfer, and it wouldn't be x2 from the distance.

>>50360432
Not really... but there's kind of sort of ways to maybe make them work.

Buffing the shit out of acrobatics for one, then taking a rogue talent / ninja trick to make your jumps always function as though they were running.

>>50360418
Feather Fall is a first level spell, it's not unreasonable to give them a class feature at say second level that says "You don't take falling damage" (maybe with the stipulation that you have to be concious, and the upgrading it at later levels to outright you don't take falling damage).

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>>50360448
KOP 4?
Kinetic Lancers, you say?
Something something E rank luck?

>>50360445
Just don't start going on like that one guy a few weeks back that pretended he could add his falling damage twice and then quadruple it as a charge or some other bullshit, since that was fake as fuck.

Anyways, 20d6x2 isn't bad, but it's also not great: For all the movement/time/actions involved you're doing only 40-240, for an average of 140 damage. Which is... well it's okay at level 10, but beyond that is no longer a reliable killing blow. Even as a pounce you'd probably have been better off just pouncing.

One's best bet would simply to be allowed to count enough vertical movement as substituting for being mounted when charging, allowing you to lance things using gravity as your horse. It's simple, straightforward, and allows as much or little scaling as you can pull off with other existing stuff.

>>50360455
I'd call shenanigans if my fall damage from 100ft up in the air doesn't transfer to the person who breaks my fall.

>>50360405
Its an MMO armor. MMO's almost always make the female characters have some sort of sex appeal, and they tend to bulk men the fuck out.

In the Non-MMO's dragoons were always well covered, usually wearing a breastplate with gauntlets + greaves, or a suit of light plate.

>>50360453
Most cars have a little button for it nowadays dude.

The seats heat. In fact they get pretty damn hot; the most common use of that button (especially since they're no longer button, just touch-capacitance spots on the console) is accidentally brushing against it when you're going for something else, and only realizing it two minutes later when your ass is fucking burning hot.

>>50360471
Nah, he said the first 20d6 x2 was from throwing his collosal sword at the target first. The next 20d6x2 came from him charging the bastard while wearing rhino hide armor shortly after.

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>>50360465
One of my writer friends showed me the Kinetic Jump feat, and I kind of just made an archetype based around that along with Air's Leap for silly high jumps and no restriction on jump height via movement. It's less about momentum transfer and more about a flying kinetic blade (it's replacing an archetype from the playtest).

>>50360471
damage scales once you increase your size modifier though, which is easy with powerful build, enlarge, etc.

>>50360479
Just to point out before someone gets all SJW on your comment:

WOMEN want this stuff. While there's plenty who like the massive full plate, there's just as many who will *NOT* play covered up in heavy armor because it doesn't show off how cute or hot they are.

In fact, at least once out of the teens, *men* are more likely to cover up their female characters properly than women are!!!

>>50360428
Fucking this.
Every other monster race at least has a schtick that makes sense, but goblins had their only traits ripped out and replaced with WACKY shit to the point where they should have gone extinct.

Paizo goblins are such a fucking forced meme.

>>50360489
Which is an action problem at the least.

Although didn't someone go "alright fuck it" and vastly overpower the guy's damage output with range on top of it just to end the epeen swinging?

or am I just remembering the entire situation too vaguely to be useful anymore

>>50360498
Yep. I'm a guy who almost always plays female characters in MMO's, and somehow it tends to end up with me making a lot of female friends in guilds (mostly because I act like i'm fucking asexual in MMO's unlike most thirsty nerds), and the women always have like the nastiest slutmogs out there, and they're always looking for new ways to make their characters "cute" or "sexy".

>>50360497
Not falling damage

>>50360501
I actually like the WoW goblins; they're a proper fucking race, as jewish as they may be.

Plus, I don't really understand how or why, but somehow, some of their females are... they're actually kinda hot.

.... at least until you hear that screechy voice, anyways.

>>50360448
>KOP 4

???

Kingdom of Prostitutes?

What does this abbreviation mean?

>>50360510
dude, THAT was the bigger bullshit build. It was a guy who tried to make the soulknife emulate tech weapons.

>>50360524
Kineticists of Porphyra (not sure spelling on that last one).

There's 3 books already out, they're MASSIVE, MASSIVE upgrades to the Kineticist; to the point where they can actually be not only played but actually good. With all 4 books you may actually be looking at a tier 3 if using the right archetypes (most definitely if combined with Gambler or Avant-Garde)

>>50360522
It's the height, anon. Shorties are A+

>>50360445
Thing you're missing is that the 'doubled damage' is OBJECTS.

OBJECTS have a set damage based on their size, which doubles after 150ft.

Falling CREATURES use the scaling d6es, and don't double after 150.

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>>50360524
Not a bad idea for a title, but that's not it.

>KOP=Kineticists of Porphyra
It's the series I wrote that helped make the kineticist a far more viable class, with new elements like light, time, sound, poison, and viscera as well as new talents and awesome new archetypes like the hex kineticist and the dimensional ripper.

If you liked the kineticist but hated how little content came out for it, I'd check it out.

>>50360522
>Not falling damage

Yes, falling object damage. Unless you're gonna tell me a large creature falling on top of you deals the same d6 damage as a medium creature?

>>50360530
>Falling CREATURES use the scaling d6es, and don't double after 150.

Which I think is inconsistent with the rules.
Objects and Creatures both fall at the same speed, disregarding wind resistance, etc.

They should both be expected to deal damage scaled by their size and deal double past 100ft.

>>50360533
I liked the idea of kineticists, but they were like fucking 17 pages of text just to explain basic class features and even then they didn't do it well.

I just wanted to fucking do ninpo hand-signs fire-blasting magic and the niggers had to make it a feat of mental gymnastics to do.

The class was supposed to emulate the warlock of 3.5 which was stupidly simple.

>>50360525
They can, well, warsouls can, and "emulate ranged weapon" on basic soulknives can do heavies but not regular firearms as well; although Emulate Ranged completely fails since the entire point is getting around the filthy charge problem (although at least you're saving five to six digit GPs that you'd waste on a 2d6 elemental weapon you'd have gotten both stronger and cheaper just from enchanting Energy on normal guns).

Emulating tech weapons is legit, it's making them useful that requires not only emulation but a full build around them a-la-gunslinger.

Personally I'd never even bother unless maybe if playing a Gestalt; you literally do more damage for less effort by using Discipline Shapes on normal 'advanced' guns.

>>50360547
Nope. It's consistent with the rules of the game.

You're confusing those with the rules of reality.

That's not how Pathfinder works.

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>>50360533
>viscera
Wait, can I finally be a bloodmage?

>>50360547
The issue is with how pathfinder treats objects - they functionally have inherent damage reduction due to hardness/thickness that if they didnt have their damage doubled, they wouldnt *take* damage from falling (and even then if the object is big enough it doesn't).

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>NTRDwarf
>NToRacle

Tell me everything about them, /pfg/.

I DEMAND IT!
I'm new to Pathfinder and this thread but interested in skillmonkeys, especially without any 3pp content.

>>50360551
The issue with soulknifes emulating weapons particularly technological and advanced firearms is that, they shouldn't even exist to be 'emulated' from.

We're talking weapons that shouldn't exist for another hundred or thousands of years in the hands of a soulknife because he visualized it.

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>>50360550
I totally get that. To be fair, I also wrote a hybrid of kineticist and ninja that actually lets you do that (pic related).

>>50360553
You can very literally do that with talents that let you shatter bones inside of creatures, take eidolon evolutions, launch pieces of your skeleton at others, and all sorts of stuff like that. Corpse Puppeteer (one of my fave archetypes for them) even gives you a meat puppet that can assist you with stuff like that.

>>50360568
Sauce?

>>50360534
Not exactly the same but closer than you think.

Falling objects have set damage: A Huge boulder at 145ft vs the same boulder at 11ft will deal 6d6 (medium is 3d6). If it falls MORE than 150ft (so not 150 but 155+ since movement's rounded to 5s) it doubles this. The end.

To do 20d6 you already HAVE doubled a colossal object from going over 150ft height. A medium creature, IF it gets to count as a falling object (I'd allow it) would deal 6d6, and take its own full 20d6 falling damage (likely with 1d6 converted to nonlethal because soft target), by RAW.

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>>50360586
No idea, sorry.

>>50360575
Would totally make sense for a character from Numeria though, or after adventuring there for a while, since you'll be encountering shit with plasma-cannon tails, rotary autocannons, rocket launchers and might even find some old lasers and the like on the ground. Definitely makes sense there, but I'll agree that the guy from the linnorm king kingdom who can't even read should be limited to primitive-as-fuck shapes that's for sure.

People from that Alkenstar place or Earth would definitely be able to do a Mosin-Nagant or maxim machinegun too.

>>50360575
What if they're just using the weapon statlines but fluffing it as magic shit? The archmage form of the living legend is basically spewing lasers too.

>>50360586
It's clearly a dragon's crown doujinshi

>>50360568
>Tell me everything about them, /pfg/.
I'm confused as well.

>>50360309
>Have not used dragons, would love to use dragoons. Their shtick is jumping - they're supposed to in fluff be anti-dragon 'knights' capable of actually battling them in the skies due to their extreme jumping and ability to safe-fall, they can go *up* to fight a flying dragon and stay up to fight multiple, they're sort of lightning-bruisers, really evasive in combat.
Take your final fantasy crap back to /v/. Dragoons are mounted infantry, not some jumping weeaboo faggots.

>>50360641
I'm well aware of what dragoons were historically. I dont give a fuck.

Maybe I want to play a weaboo jumping faggot. Or maybe I want to play a mostly-dead alien interred in a robot-suit that uses deadly anti-matter weaponry to make its enemies stop existing.

>>50360648
>this
Ordinary Medium Cavalry is fucking rather boring compared to the superjumpers and the alien-not-a-dreadnought.

>>50360641
With a comment like that I bet you have a dragon dildo buried to the hilt up your anus. Fucking scale lover.

"Hi this is totally not a scalefag posting, and I'd just like you to keep your dragon killing monstrosity to the realms of fantasy - real dragoon were stuck on the ground!"

>>50360656
>mounted infantry is cavalry

I'm confused, are people actually getting discouraged from submitting because "oh no his back story is too interesting." and "muh luck"?

>>50360678
Their most popular historical version was medium cavalry, even if they started out as mounted infantry that rode to a place, got off their horses shot their 'dragoons' (rifles/handguns) and then got back on and rode elsewhere.

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>>50359831
>Remove Furry!
Furry of Blows!

>>50360690
People are people. they get discouraged by a lot of things. They're trying to save themselves from some statistically likely disappointment, even though the only thing they'll have lost is some time.

>>50360678

>mounted infantry is siege engineers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9eWbrc_ynw

fify

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>The moment where a GM declares the Kinitist OP because he does more Damage then the 16 Charisma Barbarian

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>>50360717
>tfw you have played a 16 cha Barbarian.

>>50360736
14 Str and Dex 16 Charisma Half-Elf Barbarian because Elf and then GM bitches at me for 6d6+6 Damage per Round. The wooooorst

How bullshit is it to include magic that technically has no analogue in your backstory? Like touching some weird ass artifact and having to share a soul with another being?

>>50360709
Except Dragoons were just medium cavalry. Before that they had to get off their horse and that's about it.

>>50360794
Depends if you have mechanics in some way to support it. There are ways to convey having to share your soul (oracle curses mainly).

>>50360794
Talk with the GM before including shit like that.

How lucky is too lucky?

>level 7 human
>Defiant Luck
>Inexplicable Luck
>Lucky
>Lucky
>Lucky

What else provides specifically luck theme'd and based things? What classes cater to a theme of luck?

>>50360802
Let's say Symbiat.

No 3PP, assuming feat taxes are eliminated, what are some thing to take for a mount animal companion? Overrun and bullrushing seem okay, so do teamwork feats.

Question about Mithral Current and its 9th level counter, Dance of the Silver Hurricane.

It says you get a Perform (Dance) check. Does that mean you get to use d20 + Cha + Ranks + Other bonuses for your AC, or just Cha + Ranks + Other bonuses?

So how do we actually build a dragoon as a class?

Takes no fall damage, can use spears/halberds with powerful charge for triple damage, can always jump as though they had running start, maybe psychic-strike progression with jump-attacks only... or should some of this shit be maneuver/initiation shit.

>>50360827
Toughness. A problem animal companions have is more defense based than offense. Shit like Iron Will is a thought as well.

What animal are you choosing as a mount.

There nothing wrong with grey paladin

>>50360836

I'm playing a shining knight paladin so for now a horse, it will get my divine grace bonus so saves aren't as big an issue. Potentially taking monstrous mount to get a griffon, although I'm unsure of how good an idea it is to sink two feats into something with worse stats than a horse.

>>50360855
Get something better than a griphon then. A lion would fit your theme just fine.

>>50360818
Halflings

>>50360855
Gryphon has pounce and flying speed though.

>>50360568
>NToRacle
3 (ranks) + 3 (class skill) + 4 (charisma) + 2 (silver tongued) + 2 (best friend) + 10 (nature's divination) + 4 (social grace) + 1 (phantom thief) + 4 (legalistic curse) + 8 (inexplicable luck) + 4 (deific obedience to Arshea) = +45 diplomacy

>NTRDwarf
>He's a Ordained Defender Warder/Inquisitor
>+3 (ranks)
>+3 (class skill)
>+4 (conversion inquisition for wisdom)
>+4 (infiltrator to add wisdom in addition)
>+2 (best friend trait)
>+2 (nobility blessing inspiring word)
>+2 (stoic negotiator racial trait)
>+2 (Aspect of the Nightingale)
+22 diplomacy

Both the characters have a deep and moving backstory but that's not what you're interested in you filthy minmaxer

>>50360575
What about a reskin/fluff? Since you don't actually need to spend charges or worry about the weapon being taken down by anti-tech effects (since you can just reform it anyway), an X-Laser can be as simple as "Big Fire Spell".

>>50360641
Hey, fun fact, the Dragoon archetype for the Fighter would ALMOST agree with you, except that at higher levels it gains the ability to leap off of their mount and stab someone with a spear! Just like a Dragoon from Final Fantasy!

So fuckoff and kill yourself for being wrong!

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>>50360818
There is no such thing as too lucky.

>>50360818
Dual-Cursed Oracle or a Cleric with the Luck domain seem to be the obvious class choices.

>>50359808
Last thread linked 3 campaigns.
Here's the campaign chat for the middle one.
https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/chatarchive/1604335?
Search for arousal.

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>>50360971
Thanks!

>>50360878
>>50360959

I find the thing is with pouncing mounts is that if you're using a lance, how do you get them to do anything? The charge would stop outside their reach, unless I am mis-understanding the clusterfuck that is mounted combat.

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>>50361020
No problem! Next time, you can search past threads from archive sites.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/NToRacle/page/1/

How terrible is an average 111 damage at level 10? 222 if going nova?

Is 148/297 when going nova too much?

>>50361092
It's enough to kill the thread apparently

>>50361092
What do you get out of it

>>50360986
Well, except that you need a mount for it, which kinda limits the use unless you're a small race.

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>>50361092
At level 10, the average monster HP is 130. This is what you aim for in average DPR.

So you're a fine second-line combatant; as long as you're not the team's primary damage dealer (as in the others are under you) then it's good, although that nova makes you perfectly fine for primary DPR *IF* you can pull it off at least 3-4 times a day (if it's a 1/day nova it's as I aid before).

The second set of numbers is perfect for the level; marginally-below-average rolls will still kill one equal CR per round - which unless playing PFS or basic adventures is what parties end up needing to be capable of (for PFS you're gonna get idiots on the forums screaming to have your build banned if you do 80 let alone 130).

In the second case, you can even say that unless you're ranged, the nova number is actually too high; if you can kill two that's great, but if it's all on a single target with a full attack, that's rather a waste, and that power would be better spent improving other aspects of yourself.

I say this as someone who's used "the Yamato's Wave-Motion Cannon" as a character concept here; it's not that you deal "too much" damage, but rather that you're pigeonholeng yourself out of too much (unless gestalt of course in which case it probably happened quite naturally and forget what I said) by going that deep towards the DPR end of things, and may be suffering extensively in other areas.

Keep that mainstay DPR around the second rating, but feel free to roll your nova back to the former and even down in exchange for greater versatility elsewhere, whether that elsewhere is AoE, multitargeting, or something noncombat entirely.

>>50361048
Wouldn't you ride-by the extra feet and then birdrape them? Or give your rapebird reach?

Why would a Taldan noblewoman fuck a piece of lowly foreign peasant trash/ass?

>>50361533
Because it's her fetish?

People sex because of attraction, entertainment, or ability to manipulate. Noblewomen can manipulate without giving up the whole deal, so it's probably either for entertainment or attraction.

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>>50361533
It's called slumming, and she'll then brag to her other noble lady friends over expensive tea and ridiculously-priced pastries that she understands the plight of the commoner now, after having lived like the uncivilized brutes for 'quite some time' (about half an hour). The feeling of taboo at committing bestiality (her words not mine) gave her a secret thrill without making her feel she ever cheated on her husband, and the slight fear of bearing an exotic child tickles her subconscious as she muses upon the gazeebo about just how clever she has been.

>>50361564
>2016
>sitting in a gazebo before using detect evil on it

>>50361564
... seems to me someone's done catering for a few of those Fortune-500's princesses.

>>50359808
What is this from again?

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>>50361564
Jesus Christ, anon.

>>50361596
Chef, actually, but not wrong about the clientele. Nowhere near good enough to handle the parties though. Difficult, prissy little fucks.

Now I work at a nice but less top-scale place that actually has a (just one) high-chair in case someone does bring a little kid, and I can guarantee you'll never hear as much angry screeching from a two year old as you will from 16 year old rich girls.

Less to clean up after too.

>>50361522
>In the second case, you can even say that unless you're ranged, the nova number is actually too high; if you can kill two that's great, but if it's all on a single target with a full attack, that's rather a waste, and that power would be better spent improving other aspects of yourself.

It's ranged. That's a sphere blaster build I made that people were complaining about a few threads ago so I decided to count up the actual numbers to see if it would actually turn out that bad "in the long run".

>>50361637
Can it be split across two targets?
If no, it's wasted output, if yes good job.

>>50361533
The more taboo it is, the more exciting

>>50361554
>>50361564
>>50361645
So how does our noblewoman like it? Grotesque, animal rutting so she can feel that bestial thrill?

>>50361616
Bugbear Brawler.

>>50361664
I meant the mango, but thank you still.

>>50361643
Yeah, it can be done as an AoE for a Spell Point/Full Round.

>>50361662
Danger of the lower class
They are so barbaric and rough

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>>50361749
So you're saying she likes to be in the

Danger Zone?

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>>50361616
>>>/a/150059735

PFG, because I'm tired of all the circle jerking, I made something new to circle jerk about. My employment contract comes to an end in like three and a half weeks so I'm going to be living the NEET life, which will be giving me enough time to prep books waaaay in advance of game time.

After debating on whether I should run Second Darkness, Council of Theives, Hell's Rebels or something equally terrible, I decided to run something good that no one ever talks about, presenting...

https://app.roll20.net/join/1816336/dwc2Sg

A Mummy's Mask game application I threw together in 10 minutes while queued for raidfinder!

>>50360818

This is actually pretty cool. I did not know this was in the game.

>>50361564

You make it sound like the same thing that encourages lady knights to lay with monsters.

>>50362380
If the shoe fits

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>>50362209
>No 2hus

What's a 2hu in this context?

>>50362209
>DDS, DSP, 4est Fire, Ascension Games, Radiance House and Everyman Gaming :^) are all greenlit.

>No 2hus

That much allowed shit and you're expecting players to NOT metagame? Hahahahahahaha.

>>50362460
Fluffy tails are fine, autism is fine, total optimization is fine, there are always rocks, but I don't want to deal with all 3

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>>50359808
>Avowed Playtest

Really liking the take on it, but something just feels weird about Aether Pulse to me.
The damage scaling and shapes are good, but the base pulse just feels off.
Dealing untyped damage is fine for the base ability, but maybe it should gain a type for some of the shapes and pacts? I know mechanically it makes sense but having say, a fire elemental pact avowed able to just go 'whoops you're fire resistant? lemme switch to raw magic' is odd.

For the ability to make pacts gained at 14th level, the avowed doesn't seem to gain anything from doing so. I figure there should be at least some sort of signing bonus.

Other than that I'm in love with the class, eagerly awaiting the betrothed archetype (come on both sides playable as PC's!) and really hoping that a teased Dungeon Lord archetype lets you play dungeon keeper.

>>50362611
> fire elemental pact avowed able to just go 'whoops you're fire resistant? lemme switch to raw magic' is odd.
Are they retarded? There is such a thing as coverage and even a fire guy would be aware of shit that's immune to fire and would probably want to find ways to deal with those things.
> really hoping that a teased Dungeon Lord archetype lets you play dungeon keeper.
Oh talk dirty to me more you filthy slut! I need details!

Hold up, are monster races allowed for that RotJR campaign? Why nobody make a succubutt yet?

>>50362659
DM hasn't given an official ruling on monster races.

>>50362659
Because they're ass/legit broken? And no one wants to be a literal demon.

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>>50362596
What's wrong with autism and fluffy tails?

>>50362686
Nothing, as long as you don't then try to split the game on your int sad gargantuan +++ pow/sphere theurge

>>50362686
>>50362722

>tfw it's always Kitsune or wolf-girls
>tfw it's always catboys
>tfw no cow-girls or horse-girls or even sneks or murdermaids

>>50362631
>dungeon Lord
That's all I know! Saw it listed by forrest among the 'things to do' around the first edition of the playtest and I've been hyped ever since.

>>50362722
>n your int sad gargantuan +++ pow/sphere theurge
>implying WIS sad isn't what all the cool kids gun for.

>>50362750
Wouldn't you know, Kitsune and Cats are the actually statted out races. I suppose wolf-girls too.

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What gestalts well with Vigilante? The Faceless Enforcer archetype specifically.
Yes this is for RotJR.

>>50362766
At the risk of contributing to the cancer, snakes and merpeople are a thing

>>50362766

Lamia and Mermaids are statted out too, and we've got a Cow race now.

>>50362750

... i'd play a cow girl if it was statted out...

>>50362796
>Lamia

Where? You must tell me, I'm begging you

>>50362750

I wanted to my Oradin a cowgirl but felt we had too much animal as it was.

>>50362797

Two ways to do this.

Play a cow-based Agathion-blooded Aasimar and become a literal holy cow.

OR

Get the stats for the "Minos" race and convince a DM to let you play it.

>>50362750
I've also seen merboys and feycatgirls.

>>50362815
Become a rakshasa spawned tiefling that took the shape of the mother's gluttony and sloth instead.

>>50362814

Follow your dreams, anon!

>>50362812

I think he's bullshitting, there's the Lamia monster but no stats for a class.

Wouldn't be hard to make, though! Just give them bonuses to grapple and climb, with a constrict ability.

>>50362872
>>50362812

Lamia Commoner by Kobold Press

>>50362872

I think I am okay with him being a DILF. I felt bad I killed his wife and daughter though.

>>50362815
Why not racepoints?

We can do it.

Humanoid (0RP)
Medium (0RP)
Standard Stats (0RP) +2Str +2Cha -2wis
Advanced Con (4RP +2 con)
Natural attack (1RP Gore)
Natural Attack (1rp Hooves)
Low Light Vision (1rp)

Plus other assorted stuff I guess? Not sure what people want out of minotaur-kin.

>>50362920
>race points
No.

>>50362926
why?

>>50362920

Horns

If you want to make an _____girl use bloodforge, become gain the beast blooded subtype and pick up natural attacks or whatever from bloodforge feats

>>50362940
That's the gore attack.

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>>50362920

Large size And milk

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>be in mildly lewd game

>be angel-blooded aasimar kitsune paladin, never revealed my kitsune nature before

>get singled out by GM, lose solo ambush encounter because low rolls, get kidnapped by cultists of Lamashtu

>get taken to their lair in the Abyss

>Wisdom 12, get Wisdom drained to 1 by poisons, get hit with Bestow Curse for madness (amnesia), Charm Person, Suggestion, and Dance of Kindled Desires

>now a brainwashed member of the cult

>by the way, they're all kitsunes and they recruited me because they knew I was a kitsune somehow

Did the GM just fuck me over? I'm not gonna fall, am I?

>>50363026
>failing saves as a paladin

>>50362611
Actually the main problem with dealing untyped damage is that it turns most of the "now deals type X instead" modulations into drawbacks, whose secondary effects don't always make up for.

>>50363051
When you get stripped of items, yes.

>>50363026
>not dumping wisdom as a paladin
>failing saves as a paladin
>angel-blooded aasimar kitsune
You deserved it.

And no, you won't fall unless your DM's a shitbag though it sounds like he is. But it's not a willing act, so you shouldn't fall, and if you do, it's not like an atonement spell is the hardest thing in the world to find.

Does a Sacred Servant lose domain power uses per day for having a wisdom penalty?

https://youtu.be/bZ9-PFes3mM

What instruments do your musically-inclined characters tend to use, /pfg/?

>>50363279

I dont know. I have never seen an official statement on this. I would rule you get the 3 or what ever the base amount is unmodified by your ability score.

>>50363279
If you have X+WIS per day and wis bonus goes down, makes sense.

>>50363279
Since they indicate no minimum and specify wisdom MODIFIER instead of wisdom BONUS(at least the ones I just checked), I would say so.

>>50363313
crossbow strings.

>>50363324
That's what I'm hoping for, but it seems that
>>50363341
>>50363388
is more likely.

>>50363313
Skin flute.

>>50363402
Usually when it is something like this it changes the skill modifier to something more useful. But I dont think that is the case here. Maybe talk it over with your GM?

>>50363453
It's not that bad if it's not, but I am going to ask him if I can change it from wisdom to charisma.

>>50363026
>Throwing any of these things at players before a certain point
>Dicking over a Paladin, who should be immune to at least poison by now

Your GM sounds like an enormous asshole, and even if you're a kitsunefag that sounds like bullshit.

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>>50363026
Dirtbag gm, so prepare to fall.

For an Intimidate focused build, what should my bonus be at level 3?

>>50363474
>>50363479
He could just think it's the player's fetish!

>>50363480
3 from class skill, 4 from intimidating prowess, 3 from ranks, 1 from either charisma or intelligence via bruising intellect, 2 from a masterwork skill kit. You should have at least +13, and probably more through either gravelly tonic, potion of enlarge person, or both.

>>50363538
Right now it's
+3 class skill
+3 ranks
+4 Intimidating Prowess
+3 Charisma
+3 Skill Focus
Total of +16, if I use a potion of Enlarge Person or get a caster to cast it it's +20

>>50359899
pls respond, i've asked like 5 threads in a row now

>>50363597
No, nobody has it dumbass

>>50363588
Don't use skill focus, it's a feat for +3 doesn't scale. The skill kit is 50 gold for +2. Also, with intimidating prowess Enlarge Person is a +5, since it increases your strength.

Compare the DC you'll have to beat. At level 3 opponents will probably have 5/6 HD at most, and +4 to wisdom at most. That's a DC 20 to beat. If you go for Adopted - Ifrit (Fiery Glare) as your other trait you'll beat it every time.

>>50363618
Excuse me for interrupting your kitsune circlejerk. No need to be angry.

>>50363645
There's a skill kit for Intimidate? Can you even use skill kits in combat?
By the way, this is for RotJR.

>>50363672
If you've asked for five threads in a row, then you should realize that either no-one has it or the ones who do don't want to share it. Dumbass.

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>>50363672
>Asks every thread for like 3 days
>0 replies every time
What did you expect?

>>50363682
>There's a skill kit for Intimidate? Can you even use skill kits in combat?
Rules as written, ask your GM. Generally kits for stuff like Intimidate is situational.
>>50363692
What crawled up your urethra and died?

>>50363597

Oh, you mean that one set of houserules that somebody came up with to make non-archery and non-two-handed combat more viable?

I think I'm thinking of the same thing, but for the life of me, I can't remember anything that would make it easier to find in the archives.

>>50363672
Dig through the archived threads yourself if you're that desperate.

>>50363682
Perfume kit gives +1, and every DM I've played with has let me get a masterwork intimidate kit.

>>50363682
Oh, and since it's for RotJR, consider getting the Bred for War trait. It's restricted to Shoanti, but that's not that hard to be in Varisia, and +1 to intimidate and CMB is pretty great. Also makes you canon 10/10 stud.

Is the Trove not being updated anyomre?

>>50363708
>>50363741
I guess I'll ask him, I don't know what an Intimidate kit could be fluffed as though.
>>50363775
I thought Bred for War had a requirement of 6'+, not Shoanti?

>>50363734
Yes, that one. I've already looked through 20 threads or so in the archives but had no luck.

>>50363792
http://archivesofnethys.com/TraitDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Bred%20for%20War

Both.

>>50359899
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/martial%20styles/filename/.pdf/

If it's not one of those, try changing the search options - if you remember who made it, any words that were said along with it, that would help. Looking for .pdf in the image field will limit the searches for pdfs.

>>50363792
>>50363809
If you do go Bred for War, or Shoanti in general, then you can fluff an intimidate kit as war paint.

>>50359831
As an admitted furfag, I'm ashamed that you have the audacity to consider kitsune or catgirls furries.

>>50363809
This locks me out of Fiery Glare though doesn't it?
>>50363829
I was thinking that, but I'm a Faceless Enforcer Vigilante.

>>50361522
>I say this as someone who's used "the Yamato's Wave-Motion Cannon" as a character concept here

Doesn't sound like much of a character!

What does Kalsgard's underground scene look like?

>>50363849
Basically yes, if you go Bred for War you can't, or at least shouldn't, also be going Fiery Glare, unless you can justify a Shoanti tribesman being raised by Ifrits.

In regards to the Faceless Enforcer, you can still decorate your mask, or refluff entirely so that the mask or helmet is his facepaint.

>>50362783

Go Hell Knight so you can Iron Man your armor on.

>>50363873

Very dark. Probably damp and wormy as well.

>>50363841

Aren't kitsune and catfolk super furry in Pathfinder though?

>>50363933
Kitsune are, since they went back to the original myth of kitsune being ascended foxes. In Pathfinder kitsune aren't just people with fox ears/tails, they're foxes with human bodies.

>>50363888
I meant that they're both race traits aren't they?
I may just do what Sledge did in Borderlands and paint a face on the helmet
>>50363896
I'm going Warlord, with Eternal Guardian maneuvers and either a longhammer or earthbreaker

>>50363682
Generally speaking you can get a masterwork [skill] item as long as it is limited to one aspect of a skill; for instance, a Masterwork Item that grants a +2 bonus to Intimidate for the purpose of Demoralize (but not for any other purpose).

>>50363956
That's something else you'd have to ask. I've had GMs accept it, with the reasoning being that Adopted lets you take a race trait as a social trait.

>>50363948
>ascended foxes with human bodies
>when they have a shorter lifespan than humans
>and digitigrade anthro furry "true forms"

I mean, I'm sure the nips had plenty of the furry anthro forms, but pathfinder kitsune are still infinitely shittier than the "ones from myth" or even a lot of the popular interpretations of them.

>>50364004
Gumiho are better anyways.

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>>50363870
Some people can write a three page backstory and still have less depth than a line when they actually play, while some end up memorable even when all they did was run around and blast until shit broke, so really it could go either way.

So my players got themselves poisoned because one of them botched a Survival-check and brought back some mushrooms. The Alchemist rolled good on his Knowledge Nature, and knew (and told them) it was poisonous, and used as a hallucinogenic by witches. This prompted half the group to eat the mushrooms, and they've been failing their Fort-saves for well over an hour by now.
And now I want to know if I'm reading it correctly. Specifically, they suffer from this: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/afflictions/poison/red-bedlam
So just to make sure:
This poison kicks in every 10 minutes, causing them to be confused for that round (or the 6 seconds out of combat, whichever).
They can make a save to stop this every time, and are cured when they can do this two times in a row.
It does not "wear off" by itself if left alone.

First time playing Unchained Rogue, with Debilitating Injury do you apply any amount of effects or only one?

>>50364142
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/afflictions/poison/red-bedlam
You're reading it wrong. It kicks in after 10 minutes, once a minute for 10 minutes, or until they pass two consecutive saves, whichever comes first.

>>50364161
You're right, and it looks pretty obvious now that I take a better look, too. Thanks.

>>50364026
The make the best gfs, though they're expensive as fuck because they only eat cow meat (sometimes chicken but they get angry if you only give them chicken). Also a nice way to know if they're sad is if it rains on a sunny day.

>>50363873

Depends on what you mean by underground; criminal? Avant garde? Niche?

Like, this is the city that literally has a brothel designed like Valhalla where the prostitutes serve you dressed as Azata with cute lil angel wings.

It's like Hooters: Victoria's Secret Edition, only the waitresses can service you while they serve you.

>>50364239
I bet they have a techno scene with a lot of bards using ghost sound and silent image

Does anyone know where can i find **Wrath of the River King** for free?

>>50364239
Criminal

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>>50359808


You must now write a romantic relationship between Your RotJR character and your favorite RotJR character that is not your own. No NPCs!

Go!

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>>50364591
>tfw nobody picks you.

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>>50364645
I'd pick you up and carry to my dungeon.
Then we could have a tea party and a sleepover!

>>50364490

Hold on Senpai, I'll get everything you need when I get back to the house, I know there's a secret Ninja organization and a couple notable thug gangs.

And caravans! Lots of caravans!

Also the previously mentioned brothel is ran by a Chaotic Evil madam willing to kill or disfigure the competition.

>>50364591
>picking a specific favorite

anon, that's just not fair, I like several characters for different reasons

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>>50364681
You're a cutie

>>50364688

Which characters? I'm actually curious now.

>>50364591
The difference in height didn't bother her. She was taller than the average Tian woman, or the average Tian man for that matter, so there was some comfort in being smaller, in not being the giant that she felt herself at times. Not next to him, by a good three feet. And she could see that there was more to him than his surface. He was rough spoken and clumsy, but beneath that his soul was strong and pure. And he could dance, putting motions to the song that ran through her heart, joining his joy to hers. Even more than that, he understood what it meant to be a samurai. He knew the pride she gained from the title, and the shame she had felt when she was forced to give it up. There was a bond between them, that of a shared respect for duty and hard work that many others didn't appreciate. But there was more than that. A leaping feeling like a song she had never learned.

She was in love.

Lilin with Roku. I like a few characters, but he's the only one thus far that I can see Lilin with.

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why do people claimor over RotRL when Curse of the Scarlet Throne is so much better?

>>50364714
>Awoo looking to follow in her mentor's footsteps
>Construct that's clueless about death, and just wants her dad back
>retired swordlord that likes to paint, who looks like someone's cool uncle
>the dhampir bookworm because I am an enormous sucker for short girls that carry books around

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>>50364761
Why do you think?

>>50364761
Because Rise of the Runelords 'Took the Napkin'

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>>50364779
I don't know anon, that's why I'm asking.

>>50364810
Huh?

>>50364645
Take comfort your character probably hasn't inspired active antipathy.

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>>50364761
Honestly? I'm experiencing CotCT vicariously through my GM's other group so I don't really know if I would be interested in playing through it while that goes on. The thought of starting in something comfy (Burnt Offerings) and going to play the AP that WOULD have been my first introduction to pathfinder (being, in this case, Jade Regent) appeals to me greatly, though. Admittedly if I really wanted to revive that first spark I'd be bringing back my very first character concept instead of making a new one, but unfortunately for me I don't know how to properly spec a natural attacker in a PoW/Spheres game..

So uh, with Psionics Augmented psicrystals apparently an empowered psicrystal can learn claws of the beast.
How does that work for a creature without arms? Do you grow arms/legs to use the claws with?

>>50364858
Oh also Cortex Strike "adds your sneak attack damage to the psionic weapon damage" but does this mean its not a sneak attack? So if you did it to someone you were also sneak attacking you get it twice?

>>50364779
That doesn't look like Shalelu.

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>>50364761
>Curse of the Scarlet Throne
>Every Grey Maiden has Ruby Zenith Strike and everything else that makes a ODZS Warder great
>Even after the PoW errata they still use the pre-nerf version

FUCK that sounds cool.

>>50364969
>even after errata they still use the pre-nerf version

GMs in charge of being cheating bastards in the name of difficulty.

>>50364761
Not a clue. I'd much rather play CotCT myself, and might get a chance depending on whether my online group wraps up RotRL before the DM's other group finishes their AP.

Alas, said DM seems to deal in the bare minimum of RP with NPCs, so attempting to romance Best Girl might be less than satisfactory.

>>50364998
Personally i don't mind that sort of stuff so long as they give a player a way to learn it. Like for example if you read the mind of a Grey Maiden or somehow learn it from them you can get the old version.

How do I melee psyarm/warsoul properly, /pfg/

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>>50364848
Actually, consider the following:

>Half-Elf Shifter||(Brutal Slayer/Bushi) Stalker
>spend majority of time in normal or hybrid form, crit-fish with a high-crit two-handed weapon during combat
>as soon as he gets a crit and activates brutal strikes, fully shift to dragon form and pounce on the closest hostile target
>be a total clusterfuck of switching between forms constantly
>has ranks in heal and talents in life sphere, because his parents tried to force him to learn to patch people up rather than tear them apart

>>50364747

Nigga that's cute, Roku x Lilin OTP

>>50364686
>>50364490

Okay! So!

First things first, there's the various Caravan Guilds and Guides that help groups travel the Path of Aganhei over the Crown of the World, very important! Many of these groups engage in all sorts of underhanded tactics to make sure they're the ones caravans go to for help.

Secondly, there are the Frozen Shadows, a Ninja Clan operating out of Kalsgard that conduct the will of The Five Storms, the Generals of the Jade Regent and powerful Oni who wish to see Minkai ruled under their fiendish grip.

Thirdly, there are ambitious shop owners like the previously mentioned brothel, lots of chances to just ruin someone's day in Kalsgard!

Finally, it's worth noting that crime as we know it isn't especially common in Kalsgard; there are brawls and fights aplenty yes, but those tend to resolve themselves with a good ole group forming around the fighting pair taking bets who will win. Genuine crime like thievery tends to result in one of Kalsgard's oldest traditions being enforced; if a man or woman calls for aid that someone had stolen their goods or is assaulting them, everyone who hears it is *legally required* to come to their aid.

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>>50365179
kys steven, you gook cunt

>>50365370
bahahaha

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>>50364591
>You must now write a romantic relationship between Your RotJR character and your favorite RotJR character that is not your own.

But anon, the character I think my retired swordlord would have an adorable romantic relationship with hasn't been posted yet!

This isn't to say the current characters aren't great, I just can't see Casimir having anything more than a friendship with them - Anja in particular would be like a little sister to him, and I can't not see him try to teach Onryou to dance if he found out about her interest.

Heck, I figure he'd be very open about that kind of stuff, if anyone wants something Crafted or taught how to Craft he'd probably be up for it (he's currently got points in Jewelry, Clothing, Armor, Weapons and Painting, with enough to make Masterworks from all of them.)

>>50365611

But the question is, would he be willing to work alongside Khair, helping him build parts for his endgoal project? And what would he do when he found out about Khair's plan for himself?

Where can i find Horror Realms? It aint on either trove.

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>>50365238
>this entire thing lends itself to an intimidate build
>shifter and Brutal Slayer being Wis-based is making me lean towards the infamous Incanter Dip(tm)
>getting all those extra, juicy sphere talents wouldn't delay anything particularly important, and would only further my goal of "being a fucking dragon"

This idea has taken a frightful turn, but I can't stop it, I feel like I HAVE to make it now.

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>>50365753

Would it surprise you if I was putting SERIOUS thought into investing points for Craft (Clockwork) so Casimir could help Khair on his projects? I mean sure, building watches or mechanical gizmos fits the bill of a quiet inventor in his quaint little cottage, but now there's someone he could WORK with!

Casimir would be opposed to Khair's goals if he discovered the lad's interest in replacing his body. That just doesn't sit well with him, since although Casimir's a well-traveled man he's still a Rostlander, who are infamously parochial and damn proud about it.

Theres a humble bundle of pathfinder books right now. Is it worth it to get it? I've only ever DMed dnd 4e but i want to try something less... world of warcrafty

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>>50365914
>less World of Warcrafty
Confirmed for never having played 4e detected.

Get the fuck out of here Paizo shill.

>>50365914
No. First of all, the SRD exists and has most of the material available legally and for free, and secondly, it's honestly not a very good game and you're probably better off running something else.

>>50365952
No one here shills paizo, the furthest it goes is baiting.

>>50365753
Aranha'd help as best she could with her Inspiration-fuelled knowledges as best she could.

And now I think about it, she wouldn't even mind his ultimate goal at all. Nothing wrong with people wanting to be something different.

Joining a Pathfinder group soon, /pfg/. They need a melee guy for The Slumbering Tsar, should I make a Ranger, Slayer, or Cavalier? I've never played PF but used to play 3.5.

How can you have an important member of a Good church (Good deity) be the BBEG while being a divine caster?

>>50366046
Make the central conflict of the campaign not be about good vs evil but something else.

>>50366036
Between those three? Slayer.

>>50366046
Evil acts in name of the greater good is always the easy way out.

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I'll be DMing my first campaign on Sunday, anyone have any advice or anything? Should I use a premade campaign, or should I come up with my own? I'd like to eventually work it into a larger campaign once everyone in my group becomes a little more familiar with Pathfinder.

Also, is it possible to play without a mat/grid/whatever? I'm ordering one, but there's no way it's gonna get here by the time I play.

>>50366066
There is no such thing as greater good
that is pure rhetoric
make actual good goal something that players want to oppose

>>50366066
Evil acts are evil so alignment shift so bye bye being a cleric of that deity though

>>50366046
Oracle?

>>50366077
Yes it is, but you could just you know, draw some lines on a piece of paper.

>>50366046
Do they have to be an (actual) part of the church? Could they be a follower of another deity that was able to use magic to infiltrate and become an important member?

>>50366046
Well you make it so hes the BBGG instead of the BBEG, obviously.
Good doesn't mean "everybody wants this to happen". For example a lawful good cleric might be preparing some ritual to purge all evil thoughts from the inhabitants of a city, but players might not like the whole free will being fucked over thing or feel that "good" requires overcoming those evil thoughts. Another good cleric might plan to topple the neutral government to establish a more just rule, but the players prefer the stability or something else of the neutral government.

Another case is its the middle of a war with a giant horde of insects or undead or something you cant negotiate with and the good people are trying to destroy the evil fortress of evildom, filled with members of the evil race, but that will sabotage the war effort since the evil people are on your side (for the moment).

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>>50365790
>this all would make way more sense if it were Cha-based
>can't make Stalker cha-based without GM-fiat or Daring Hero

hecking forrest, why do you do this to me

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