Screw you guys I like 1d4chan.

>>50347092
I'm going to support this. My main problem with people complaining about 1d4chan is that they never seem to be able to point out better internet source of shortened information for newbies.

>>50347092
The only irritating thing about your post is the filename.
1d4chan can be useful, given that it has advice on it as well as articles

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>>50347092

We now go to our live correspondent to see what you, the people, think about this statement!

"WELL! I FINK THAT, UH...CEMENT IS MORE INTERESTIN', UH...THAN PEOPLE FINK!"

>>50347092
1d4chan is great and without it I wouldn't give a shit about making fluffy armies, and instead would just WAACfag my way up the chain of That Guys.

Wait, we're not supposed to like 1d4chan?

Well, shit...

Liking or disliking /tg/ resources like 1d4chan or sup/tg/ is dumb.

They're as varied as the board itself. They have some good stuff on them and some shitty stuff on them. They serve a purpose but are imperfect and have flaws. Making absolute statements either way just makes you a moron.

>>50347208
There's tons pf really shitty articles, and an almost overwhelming amount of misinformation, specially about /tg/ itself. You can't trust anything that's written there, and worst of al the majority of the attempts at humor are pure cringe.

It needs a dramatic amount of revision, and sadly there's no one to trust to do a good job.

>>50347243
>too fat to edit an article
>just fat enough to complain about it

>>50347226
Just because something has parts you like and parts you don't like doesn't mean you can't say "I like it".

Warhammer itself has many fucking stupid things to it that I absolutely hate, but I still can definitely say that I like Warhammer because the things I enjoy far outweigh the things I hate.

>>50347243

I only really read the 40k stuff, it's a decent distillation of Lex without being such sourcefags.

I sort of use it like a concordance or a set of annotations?

>>50347137

What kind of information we talking about?

Warmahordes and Malifaux have better maintained wikis that help get users into the game, and 40k has many fluff wikis that start with broad strokes and let you drill down once you find some fluff you like.

>>50347253
>too lazy to bother entering an edit-war with an autist

You bet I am.

Only newfags dislike 1d4chan

Its unfunny because its outdated.
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1d4chan stems back from a time where memes werent as dark.

The tactica articles are still very legit and useful

>>50347267
lex is nice because it has sources, but also bad because despite having the sources clearly listed, they still get shit wrong

>>50347092
I love 1D4chan too. I don't see wha the big deal is.

>>50347092
people have a problem with 1d4chan?

>>50347243
Fuck that noise whatever happened to /tg/ gets shit done?

>>50347724

/tg/ has NEVER gotten shit done. All successful projects were taken off /tg/ and finished independently.

1d4chan is garbage.
If you enjoy it or make use of it then you are "human" garbage.

Hold on,,,,,, I was ***specifically directed to the /tg/ wiki by an apparent oldfag are you saying that it's a heretical tome?

>>50347772
/tg/ is not a single entity, but a collection of people. And imageboards are a rather poor platform for game development.
Saying that /tg/ projects were finished independently is like saying that the US never invented anything because it wasn't a concerted effort of 100% of its citizen. Nothing wrong technically, but it's still a bloddy useless thing to say

Btw, we still produce content. The generals have regular homebrew pdfs.

>>50347092
then y dont u marry it

It is a great source of Horo porn.

>>50347092
when did Pedobear become a techmarine

>>50347352

And their fluff articles are about as fun to read as a dictionary.

>>50347724
>whatever happened to /tg/ gets shit done?
Yeah, that "misinformation, specially about /tg/ itself" the other anon was talking about?
I've got some bad news for you.

>>50347243
Still better than white dwarf

>>50348883
It is a wiki it is not supossed to be fun.

>>50349063
Correct and informative do not exclude entertaining.

>>50347137
You mean the tacticas ? They are terribly biased and full of unfunny memes that a newby wouldn't get in the first place anyway.

>>50347092
It can be good, but sometimes there are parts of it that are better off. Or which require fixing.

Then again, it's a pretty good source for materials (like the various tactics for tabletop armies).

>>50347172
Oh man, that took me back

>>50347282
Hardly anyone babysits tacticas these days. I've cleaned up the Inquisition one a bit, another guy did a massive revision of the CSM one, etc.

>>50347092
1d4chan is for people stuck in the last decade.

>>50349511
>are you guys even aware of the current year?

>>50349511
>The last decade was 6 years ago

Man...

>>50349558
2016 is the year when western civilization realised that it let itself go.

>>50347724
/tg/ likes to talk about getting shit done.

>>50347092
me too

>>50349115
Does Entertaining mean stale memes?

>>50347092
I like the Porn.

>>50349511
That's not necessarily a bad thing, 4chan was fun as hell in the 2000s

I miss it

>>50349970
Sure, but a lot of those jokes and references has expired or was never that funny to begin with.

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>>50347092
I like it too anon, everyone hates something these days anyway.

I say we start a 1d4chan general. Just get people on board to editing this thing.

See, there's the people who say 1d4chan isn't representative of them, that it misinforms people about /tg/. I've found that this is about roughly 35% of users on the board. The rest either have no clue or don't care, or there's people like me, the Old-guard, who loved the old /tg/, idiotic memes and all, or newbies who were introduced to /tg/ through 1d4chan.

>>50347724
dead meme

>>50347092

So how'd you do the conversion? iI'm curious. That looks pretty well done.

>>50347243
>There's tons pf really shitty articles, and an almost overwhelming amount of misinformation, specially about /tg/ itself
Swap "articles" for "posts" and you basically have a summary of /tg/.

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Id say we leave it how it is just as a reminder of a time before

>>50350045
doesnt matter. Its part of the crust now. Some of its funny, some of it isnt. Leave it for the newbies as artifacts.

Fuck, we rallied around warhammer back then, but even now that is just a cooling ember.

>>50350591
I regret to say this isn't mine. And the guy who did it isn't doing commissions right now so I can't have one. I know its parts include; Gauss Flayer, Lascannon, Gauss Blaster, and Melta. There's some greenstuff for the handle and barrel tubes, otherwise I don't know.

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>>50351065

Dawn of War 3 is coming im expecting atleast one new 40k meme

>>50348112
>The generals have regular homebrew pdfs.

And look at how it works out for them. The 40k RPG general, for instance, regularly tears itself apart over homebrew.

>>50351157

and its still better than most RPG generals

>>50347724
The board became "self aware" (by which I mean insecure and up its own ass), so the only things we can make without the threads being flooded with "SO CRINGY LMAO" shitposting are too bland for anyone to care about one way or the other.

>>50351197
Sounds about right.

>>50351157
I'm still confused exactly when 40k stopped being about your dudes.

>>50351065
It's a cooling ember because it was around the time Warhammer peaked in popularity.

>>50351240
When people became obsessed about the canon that never mattered until the Horus Heresy books that turned into a terrible soap opera.

>>50351240
Sometime around 6ed I think.

Whenever it became Formationhammer 40k, but fuck them they're still my dudes and I love them all.

I'm a newfag to the hobby though so I'm probably wrong.

>>50351275

The shitposting The Horus Heresy and The Beast Arises caused has fucked us

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>>50347092
1d4chan's okay, but I doubt the people who actually spend time doing stuff to it are. I mean someone on there deleted the page for Future Space Hebrews And Christ Sapaceships for the sole reason that it's just so bonkers he didn't find it relevant to /tg/, nevermind the fact that it's a setting concept for Adeptus Evangelion. Fuck that guy.

>>50351297
Primarchfags are the worst 40k fa/tg/uys.

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>>50351157
Yes, and ? Shit is still done.
You're saying that like 4chan won't tear itself apart over almost everything, including which monopoly token is the best one.

The only place where I've never seen people argue is the lighthouse threads.

>>50351065

>we rallied around warhammer back then, but even now that is just a cooling ember.

Warhammer finally got viable competition in the miniatures sector, so it's not surprising interest in it has slowed down.

>>50347092
if you don't like 1d then make a discord or skype group how to discuss changes or reform the administration, ie you only suggest edits not make live edits

>>50351550
For the record, the boot is objectively supreme Monopoly piece.

>>50351552
GW has also became an increasingly shittier hobby company and they havn't begun to turn it around until just last year.

>>50347724
Have you ever seen multiple autistic children in the same room?

Same thing.

>>50351665
We're gonna see if it's still the best piece when I jam it so far in your ass that you can taste leather. Oil Lamp is best.

>>50347724
I've only seen it done with lewd greentexts.

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>>50347243
> are pure cringe.

> maymays not dabk enough for my sensitive tumbler senses.

>>50347273

Doesn't 1d4chan link to those wikis? I would hope that it would. If not someone should go fix that.

>>50351240

The exact moment was when they let you throw whatever you want into your army.

At that point "your dudes" died.

>>50347092

1d4chan would become massively better through the basic step of cutting down references to the Unified setting and getting it off the front page.

You just can't be leaving that shit around for newbies to trip over.

>>50350501
Do it. Right now. Start the thread.

>>50347092
Hey, I found 1d4chan before i found this place. I fucking loved the 'ol 1d4.

>>50353033
>finding 1d4chan before 4chan

How does that even work?

>>50347310
Some of the tactica articles are useless though, with the writer admitting he didn't even play the (40K) army in question.

>>50347092
I like 1d4chan too.
It's a museum of /tg/, from a time when you could have liked things without being "boo"-d at. And you didn't had to be cynical toward tabletop in general.

It has the collection of all the projects, and stories that made /tg/ worthwhile once.

The articles are to be taken with a pinch of salt, as they tend to be very biased either for or against their subject, but still, it is fun to read.

Sometimes I still go back and read the story of Bjorn. And laugh about it.

>>50353033
my man

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>>50353047
looking up 40k tacticas
they were very helpful. Got me into roleplaying, too

Imma confess, I have jerked it to some Cultist-Chan green texts on there

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>>50353236

>>50349133
>newfags are to be fed with a silver spoon
GTFO

>>50353111
the difference between now and then is that back then people didn't give a fuck about the opinion of contrarians, they just went ahead and did shit anyway.

>>50353047

Type in shit like black tenplars and I think 1d4chan is the 5th result

>>50347310
Agreed on the tactica articles. Pretty useful (unless it's the one >>50353074 mentioned, which is it btw?) if you want to get a simple-ish breakdown of what an army's like on the tabletop, and they're mostly fairly fucking expansive. I mean, pinch of salt as always, but I have fun just reading them sometimes...

hopefully that qualifies me as the right kind of turbo-nerd for this board

>>50347724
The same thing that happens whenever any group of people gather around one idea. Everyone wants to do all the fun or creative parts and fights over it, and no one wants the boring but necessary structure and maintenance.

Everyone has a collection of Ideas and details that they want to work into their shared project, but most people don't have the connections, refinements or details needed to support them worked out. This is why projects with good ideas either die off shortly after starting or have their progress slow down to a grind, as few people want to do the boring work, and just expects someone else to do it. Hell, the "/tg/ gets shit done" meme may actually contribute to this.

Just look at 1d4chan: whether you're one of the detail-obsessed autists/arrogant fucks who think their tastes in humor is too sophisticated for it/staunch contrarians who argue for the sake of arguing, who hate 1d4chan, someone who likes it, or someone who doesn't feel strongly either way, everyone agrees that it could use some updating and cleanup. But no one ever does that, and you know why? Because it isn't fun to most people.

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>>50353571

It's the second result for me after typing in most Chapter names.

It's not unlikely that anyone who has a potential interest in 40k gets snared by 1d4chan, and then the ones that click with it filter back here.

>>50353806
>But no one ever does that, and you know why? Because it isn't fun to most people.
I agreed with most of what you said, but that's really not true. Have you ever seen any actual cleanup attempts? The problem isn't that no one wants to do it, the problem is that everyone wants to change every article into a soapbox for their personal opinion and it devolves into pointless edit wars. 1d4chan is like the Kashmir- it's a crappy situation that makes no one happy but any change would cause a ton of conflict with no guarantee of having anything to show for it afterward, so it never gets resolved.

>>50351157
That's pure skub argument over allowing homebrew or not.

Homebrew works just fine if you allow all of it and use the ettera'd material. Making it a massive fuckpile of data to sort like (snowflake)finder and 3.5

>>50347092
It houses some of my very first writefaggotry. Some people even still talk about orkhammer stuff and I smile.

>>50349944
>Articles that haven't been updated in months or even years use memes that are months or even years old

Boys what we have is a literal genius of impeccably fresh wit.

>>50353942

It has some of my first Writefaggotry as well, but I'm still embarrassed about it.

>>50349944
> all mamays must he of the freshest and dankest varieties. And must be locally sourced and grown using sustainable methods.

>>50353942
>search orkhammer
>someone's taken my short writefaggotry and written a whole fanfiction around it
I'm not sure if I should be amused or feel slightly disgusted.

>>50351710
fuck the pair of you, Battleship is best piece

>>50347310
The tactica articles are usually the first result when you google "(army) tactics", so some people must find them interesting or useful. If people think they are inaccurate, they should go on and give their own feedback.

>>50351197
>The board became "self aware" (by which I mean insecure and up its own ass)
This shit is the worst. You can scarcely have good honest fun here or on the internet in general anymore. /v/ is the worst board about this.

>>50356134
Yeah but was /v/ ever good?

>>50347092
It's cool because in your case, you actually go on /tg/.

I hate the people who go on it, laugh at all the memery, but never actually visit 4chan for any sort of context.

>>50356165
It used to be fun, then it turned into an incoherent mess that talked about anything except videogames in 2011-2013, and now it's just mediocre.

>>50351275
>hey guys wanna discuss 40k canon
>COULD THIS PRIMARCH BEAT THIS PRIMARCH?
>LOL IMPERIAL FISTS ARE SECOND FOUNDING

Admittedly, there's fuckall to talk about otherwise - GW hasn't exactly been spewing stuff out, at least anything that doesn't start causing fights the moment it does.

>>50356165
>>50356220

Was this place ever good?

>>50356327
/tg/ or 4chan? Because both have been shit for a looong time now.

>>50356369
4chan was always shit.
It's just that /tg/ used to be the best and most entertaining board on the site.
Now I think that honor might go to /k/ or /pol/

>>50356620
Oddly enough I agree.

/pol/ can be hilarious and /k/ is definitely the highest quality board on the site atm.

>>50353806
>This is why projects with good ideas either die off shortly after starting or have their progress slow down to a grind, as few people want to do the boring work, and just expects someone else to do it. Hell, the "/tg/ gets shit done" meme may actually contribute to this.
I feel like this is most likely true. There's a lot of instances on here where people will start brainstorming an idea in a thread, and someone will go "someone should make a thread/pic/googledoc/etc of this", and it's always something trivially fucking easy like that - and they never fucking do it. They ask for someone else to do it when it's literally as easy as copying a thread for archival or making a new thread about the new idea that sprang from the old one. People just don't wanna do shit anymore, or the shit that requires effort at least. The fuckers will spend the entire thread spitballing ideas and worldbuilding, but the second someone suggests archiving it or making a new thread and suddenly no one can click a few times to do it.

That's the problem with /tg/ lately.

>>50356327

I'd argue so, I remember it being a blast four or five years back.

People seemed to think killing the quest threads would save us but maybe its just a long recovery or some shit.

>>50356620
/pol/'s pretty good, but they've gotta rein in their crossboarder problem. There's a lot of faggots from there invading other boards and starting shit when they have no need to and mods obviously can't be fucked to run the place even half correctly so it only gets worse with time. Honestly a lot of it could just be false flagging by dumb kids with too much free time but it gets annoying how dedicated some of these kids are to derailing threads or trying to start some political shit on a board that has nothing to do with it.

>>50356757
I dunno its been known a long time that barely any people here play traditional games "old" /tg/ was really just random ass mostly dumb ideas

>>50356327
/tg/ was never good. Don't kid yourselves on there being some lost 'glorious age' that has somehow been lost. The means have changed, but there's always been tons of shit with a few diamonds in it.

It just has lots and lots of terrible and simply incorrect articles. There are some neat bits that have to do with 40K, but it is all just 40K. Look at the CoC article for instance. Despite being a classic RPG in every way the article is tiny. And I have tried my hand at fixing it. As soon as I changed around the misinformation in the Malifaux wiki the mods immediately reverted it to its very inaccurate current state.

>>50347243
>an almost overwhelming amount of misinformation
I know, 40k Chaos tactia (even the newer ones) still has a line of
>Get MurderSword, it's the best~
>Watch as everyone run away from it
I don't find it amusing

Figured I'd put my old trip on, I doubt anyone remembers it or me, but as a fucking oldfag, I've seen the best and worst of what /tg/ has to offer, and cry nostalgia all you like, but /tg/ was fucking amazing back in my day.

Then the great banwave hit and NO FUN ALLOWED buttons were installed on every spare inch of space available and the fun died out.

>>50359166

oh boy the GREEAAAT banwave here we go again

I bet you were okay with the lewd dumps we were just /b/ with the same interests in mind

>>50359259
h-how lewd were they?

>>50359275

You know that old screencap "You dont need other boards" I actually liked that old part of /tg/ but faggots abused it and tried making /tg/ d lite

We really were just /d/ lite for a while it made me learn that alot of traditional gamers have some weird fetishes

>>50359259

Well, let's see. They nix'ed avatarfagging altogether, which hit things like Ceiling Tau, Rubic Marine, Grandpa Dreadnaught, Verity threads, a lot of the classic ayy lmao meme shitposting but at the same time a lot of genuine 'fun' just enjoying the company of your fellow devou/tg/uardsman.

The lewd dumps of raw porn were shit, yeah, but suggestive content is good every now and then. We used to have quality content like that a lot. Hell, Jo Perriera (I can't spell) had a collab with a writefag (or did it him/herself) and it was a god damn epic story.

Lol no more of those pop up.

>>50351197
Christ this annoys me.
We would not have half the stuff we do if we were unwilling to get a little silly.

>no rape factory
>no spiders in a drows vagina (although we never really reached a consensus on that to many variables)
>love would not bloom
>no sisters of cleaning
>no angry marines

>>50356265
Eh, their current writers are pretty shit compared to what they used to be. Just look at Age of Sigmar. The entire thing is utterly uninspired and feels like a setting made for a focus group.

>>50359275
We used to have /tg/ girls/crossdressers posting lewd pictures of themselves.

>>50347137
>1d4chan
>Citing sources
You can't have both, anon.

>>50348768
Or you could just use chan.sankaku or Gelbooru. Get it from the source, not hand-me-downs.

Technically Pixiv would be the source many times, but whatever

>>50347092
I think it's fine. For points values and rules there's almost no better source online. Sure some of the memes are outdated like the Spiritual Liege shit which I see pop up in the 40K General every once in a while, but unless you were an oldfag in the 'glory' days of /tg/ you're playing catch-up. Maybe some people resent being reminded of when they were new to the board.

>>50354009
That is why baneposting should be the only meme allowed. It is sustainable and limitless.

>>50360911
For you.

>>50351281
Your dead on the money actually. It's why I quit 40k.

>>50357002
"old" /tg/ was a containment board. It was pretty neat.

>>50349944
>implying theres anything wrong with old memes

>>50359166
For what it's worth, I remember you. This place has changed, but I can't leave.

>>50361026
This is one of the many casual lies you can find on 1d4chan.

You 40kids can stop it already.
You're never going to give up your "muh warhammer wednesdays" meme, are you?

For one thing, 40k was never banned from /b/. Can't really call /tg/ a containment board if it was never contained on that board. Really, those WW threads were not really as important as you sort of wish they were.

Secondly, D&D was big in /co/, /v/, and /b/, and there were always scatterings of other games as well on those boards, along with random 40k threads outside of /b/. At some point, moot said "hey, there's these game threads in these boards that aren't comics or video games, maybe I should make a board for them." Hence, why it's called /tg/ and not /40k/.

If you have any evidence to the contrary, any evidence at all, I'd love to see it.

>>50353047
I used to lurk on ED for a couple years, then I found they had a 40k article (probably through one furfaggotry drama article), and that lead me to 1d4chan, and from there to /tg/ in 2009.

>>50359166
The banwave was towards the end of Summer 2010, right? I felt like I joined /tg/ at the twilight of a golden age (Fall 2009), and while things stabilized after a while (2011) things weren't as good.

>>50347253
More like, if I edit it, some autist comes in a day later and reverts it to what it was.

>>50352881
All pages should have a memeless introduction, stating clearly what they are. If its writefaggotry it should say so before the story.

>>50363785
Were you using strikethroughs?

Because a lot of pages got shitted up with people arguing in the first person, strikethrough edits are basically automatically reverted. Strikethroughs are only allowed for jokes really.

I feel like someone here has the need to make an "remember old /tg/ guiz we were a brotherhood" thread almost every 2 months

>>50364300
Yes. Out of the tens of thousands who traffic 4chan worldwide, only one guy is making a specific type of thread every other month and samefagging on different IPs. You uncovered the conspiracy.

>>50347092
I like it too. It makes me laugh.

Wish it had more about non-40k / WHFB stuff, but tis the nature of the community that builds it.

>>50364300
It started out as a 1d4chan thread, so it's not as if it started with 'why is /tg/ so shit.'

Besides, wouldn't you want reassurance that /tg/ isn't just made up of a bunch of newfags who only came on two years ago, and that you're not insane for still being here?

>>50363595
Waiter, this pasta is stale.

>>50353047
google 40k tactics and the first result is 1d4chan

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>>50363595
Do you have evidence to prove YOUR version of events?

>>50365496
The name of the board makes it look like an expansion of /video games/ rather than an attempt to make /40k/.

Were it not for /torrents/, we very well could have been just named /t/.

>>50365536
But that's bullshit and you know it - /vg/ stands for Video Game Generals - /v/ is actually Video Games, despite not having a g.

/tg/ could have been /t/ by that logic, sure, but there's no solid evidence that it's related to an expansion of /video games/. It's probably just moot going 'well 40k is a wargame, I'll just make a general board for traditional games' because he wanted to leave room for other stuff to shove in there, even if it was intended to be a 40k containment board. This is the same guy who thought quests belonged on /tg/, remember.

>>50353047
>google 40k stuff
>click the link
>come to 4chan for dank 40keks
>gradually lose interest in 40k
>stay anyway because best board

>>50364478
>that feel when I'm a newfag who only came on two years ago
H... How do I /tg/ well, master? i don't want to make this place worse.

>>50365705

Not the guy you responded to but...

Just be decent to people.

Anything you can do to spread less hate, anything you can do to try and see things from other people's perspective, anything you can do to show that we're all in this together, those things have value.

People are too quick to take the easy button of being mad. It's easy to yell at people on the internet. It's easy to poke holes and magnify minor flaws. It's easy to tear people down and leave nothing standing, just because you can.

Don't take the lazy, easy route. That's really all it takes.

>>50365705
Create content. Know tabletop gaming, fantasy, and science fiction history in novel, movie, magazine, and comic. Vary your memes, do not use only what is easy. Beware foxtaurs, that way leads to rape and "cultural traditions". Create discussion where there is cancer, reply to anger with discussion.

I recommend reading old Dragon Magazine and Knights Of The Dinner Table magazine to give you background in obscure old things out of the mainstream awareness and the evolution of our culture.

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>>50365757
So, follow the rules from the sticky? Gladly, m'lord.

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>>50365705
Just do your best to be a decent person. If you act mature and good, no one would be able to tell you came on two weeks ago or two years. Don't add to the bullshit just because other people are.

>>50365842
>Vary your memes, do not use only what is easy.
Oh, my. I'm the newfig but repetition of old skub really pisses me off. These zoggers seem too lazy to even make new bait, and snotlings still bite it.

>>50365614
You're making HUUUUUUGE leaps in logic to support your 40k containment board idea.

To start, there weren't containment boards back then. Stuff was just banned.
Secondly, 40k was never banned from /b/, or any other board. You can't really call it a containment board in that case.
Thirdly, you 40k guys exaggerate how important you thought that a bunch of threads in the random board where you're allowed to post whatever you want were.
And, finally, there's absolutely zero evidence that suggests moot made this board specifically with 40k in mind or for 40k.

Burden of proof falls onto the person making the more extreme claim. If you have anything, anything at all, that suggests that moot made /tg/ because he wanted a containment board for 40k, I'd love to see it.

Logically, considering that there were more and still are more D&D threads than there are 40k threads, this board was made because there were too many non-video games being discussed on a video game board, hence his decision to make a "traditional" game board (with "traditional games" being not even really being a phrase up until that point).

If he was even thinking of 40k first, wouldn't /war games/ make more sense?
At the end of the day, moot was thinking of not just the 40k players, but the D&D players, the Magic Players, the board game players, and all the rest.

So fuck off with your dumb lie unless you can provide even a sliver of proof to back it up.

>>50365614
/tg/ existed long, long before /vg/, but after /t/.

>>50353033
Literally me. 1d4chan was my gateway into 4chan.

>>50349511
the current year

>>50365705
Keep in mind that we're all here to share make-believe. You should never get angry over it.
Tell anons when you liked their posts.
And create content. Drawing, storying, homebrewing,... Even if it's awful, it's still positive as long as you did some work on it.

>>50365870
There's no real proof in either direction. I said 'even if it was intended to be a 40k containment board,' not that I actually believed it was. I actually made the point that he was probably leaving room for things beyond 40k, like later quests.

I am not making an extreme claim, I am arguing that neither side has strong proof of their arguments beyond conjecture. All of this arguing is coming out of the vague memories of years ago, stuff that was probably never recorded in any sense. Curb your autism.

>>50365888
I'd made the mistake in assuming he was confused on what /vg/ and /v/ stood for - that he thought /vg/ was similar to /tg/ in title, like traditional games and video games.

>>50365954
Exactly.

Any time I see someone saying something to the effect of "That's stupid, you're stupid, you've got it all wrong, fuck off kid and no one give him any participation points cus WE DONT REWARD MEDIOCRITY!!!!!" I just want to slap their shit.

Yeah, I get that people have a chip on their shoulder about how the world "coddles" people or whatever. I get it. But I'd rather see a thousand shitty homebrews and edgelord posts and people not understanding how D&D works than have to sit through one more post where some dickhead's leaning back in his chair, smug at having demanded a purity test before someone can post on this Laotian culinary theory imageboard.

4chan was never good.

4chan will never be good.

99.999% of everything posted here is utter shit.

But you cannot gather any nuggets of gold if all you do is make fun of people rooting around through the dirt. No one will remember the shit. But everyone will gather in awe at the occasional diamond or sapphire that's unearthed.

>>50365870
Containment board is a misnomer. Back then, boards were created because the content was popular enough that it was crowding out conversation on other topics, more like /vp/ than /mlp/.

But 40k was a huge part of that however.

>>50366006
Also, shit can be improved instead of just piled on.

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>>50366006
This. It is amazing how much better a thread will become if someone tries to write a story, even a greentext story, or if a drawfag graces the thread with an image of what he thought was cool or funny. It turns a mundane thread into a wonderful moment, solidifies an idea.

And at least in theory, because people desire those cool things, they should try to make cool things that will get stories and drawings and stuff. Slapping people down does nothing in comparison - at best a short-term smugness of 'I won an argument.'

>>50353970
>Writefaggotry
People on /tg/ still do that?

>>50366147
Y
>>50293322

>>50366147
Less than they used to but yes. It's a trend I've been observing for several years now.

I'm still convinced that geting rid of quests was a mistake.
Yes it was cringy, and there was a ton of those polluting the board, but the questfags were also drawfags and writefags that enhanced the regular threads when they were not running. Same with the smut threads. Hiding them was piss easy.

And we only got more bait threads to fill the holes left.

>>50365984
>>50366022

Do you see the D&D players making claims of how /tg/ was made as a containment board for D&D, even though D&D was and still is more popular than 40k?

No? Then don't try and defend the people who keep repeating the old lie about /tg/ being made as a containment board for 40k when they have absolutely no proof to their claim.

All in all, the least extreme claim, the only one that's even worth mentioning, is that /tg/ was made as a place for board games, paper games, war games, card games, and etc.

So shut up about your baseless "40k containment board" bullshit already.

>>50366251
>I WON THE ARGUMENT
>But dude none of us are arguing what you said we were arguing-
>I AM THE CORRECT ONE
>but you're ignoring what we're saying entirely beyond assuming we're in opposition-
>I WIN SHUT UP 40K CONTAINMENT BOARD FAGGOTS

>>50366147
Shoggy recently updated AGP. I dunno of supTG has it archived or not.

>>50359794
no idea what the first two of these are?

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>>50363595
>bwaaaaaaaah my ttg franchise is the entire reason for /tg/'s existence, not yours!!11!!!1!

>>50366533
What's extra fun is that he's actually the only one in that argument even bringing up specific franchises.

>>50364259
Unified? I've never seen or heard of anything about this before

>>50364384
hahaha wow guys i can see peoples IPs im such a l33t haxxor

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>>50366251
>Do you see the D&D players making claims of how /tg/ was made as a containment board for D&D

>>50364384
That's a lot of detail on how and when those threads start for someone who is supposedly not doing it.

Aight faggots.

Look.

It's still /tg/. People have come and gone.

The memes are dank.

New jokes grow.

Don't forget.

You're here forever.

>>50366788
This. The board isn't becoming worse, we're just all getting old and jaded.

Some faggot ruined the Dawn of Eldar page, so fuck it. Its boring, unfunny garbage now with some autist screaming and crying about how Eldar aren't the most overpowered shit in DoW.

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>>50366788

The internet as a whole is getting jaded

>>50366931
Dawn of Eldar was funny at some point? I only remember massive amount of butthurt, hyperbole and misinformation.

>>50366533
Nobody who says /tg/ is a containment board is speaking kindly of the reason.

If anything, each is an attack on 40k.
>>50366573
IP tracking is how, at the bottom of every thread, 4chan displays the number of posters in that thread.

Pretty basic information, man. I don't know why you think that means anyone here is watching your IP.

>>50359794

>Rape Factory

One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong.

>>50357291

No, /tg/ was better. Its not that it wasn't a producer of shit.

The difference was people's attitude towards shit.

Before, people looked at a pile of shit and said "Okay how can we try and get at least something good out of this?"

Now we see shit and its instant "RRREEEEEEEEEEE"

>>50366936
I feel like the internet is becoming less fun. It's no longer the wild and crazy frontier; it's getting mapped out, marketed, everyone's getting accounts and names, people are using social media to throw their opinions out there.

What ever happened to having fun?

>>50367086
This.

We made Elf Slave Wut Do into proper discussions. Now Excuse Me Guy is like throwing a windup toy at a hornet nest.

>>50367086
True.
But I'm so tired of seeing the same unimaginative threads day after day.
Same images, same single lines of greentext, repeated again and again.

How do those people expect /tg/ to produce something entertaining when they can't even go through the effort of creating a semi-decent OP.

I do want to go crazy and discuss the economics of vore settings or the intricacies of grandfather clocks-based martial arts. But it won't happen when the three previous identical threads went nowhere.

>>50367677

>I do want to go crazy and discuss the economics of vore settings or the intricacies of grandfather clocks-based martial arts. But it won't happen when the three previous identical threads went nowhere.

This

I am tired of people saying we made sexual or fetish setting threads into works of "art" since that shut was autistic

>>50366993
Ah, I found the faggot.

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>ywn go back in time and prevent yourself from becoming enslaved to this godforsaken board

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>>50368140

>>50367696
...you're agreeing with someone saying the opposite of you.

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>>50347092
TV Tropes is down the hall and to the left

>>50351359
Wait, seriously? That's fucking bullshit, can we not bring it back?

>>50368158
>>50368140
But anons.

What would you give it up for?

What would you have, if not /tg/? What then?

>>50363595
>denial

>>50365536
its called /tg/ instead of /40k/ because moot was smart enough to shove some other things in with it

>>50365870
>Secondly, 40k was never banned from /b/, or any other board.
neither was pokemon but /vp/ is still a containment board

>>50366251
>Do you see the D&D players making claims of how /tg/ was made as a containment board for D&D
no because unlike 40k that would not be true

>>50369074
>>50369091
>>50369109
>>50369120
>Still not one damn iota of actual proof

Fucking samefag.

>>50347724
I have written and posted entire books on 1d4chan.

>>50347092
Why would you not?

>>50367677
DAILY. I'm in the process of writing a novel I'm going to distribute for free on /tg/, and I know four other /tg/ writefriends who did the same in the past.

>>50367057
How is rape factory any difrent to spiders in a drows vagina

>>50369253
>>50369279
Actually, I have a question now. As long as we're talking about 1d4chan, gents, I want to know: if I were to put a Forgotten Realms story up there, on the wiki for free, would anybody here like to read it if I paid to have a /tg/ drawfriend illustrate it?

>>50351595
>discord or Skype
Since this is, among other things, a thread of venting, I'd like to say that stupid heavy software like this and roll20 is still worse than just using irc.

>>50369319
People read everything that goes there.

But to put it there, it must be /tg/ related or a /tg/ game.

So if fanfiction gets posted, it must be /tg/ fanfiction.

So...make a thread to post it, and hope it gets enough other people posting to justify it. Or make a general writefaggotry thread and say the ones people like the most get a 1d4 article, and post yours after a few other people post theirs.
There just needs to be sufficient "/tg/ness" to it.

>>50347092

>Friend wants into 40k
>I direct him to 1d4chan
>He finds Salamanders page
>Thinks it's all canon with the fried chicken and watermelon
>assumes the entire game is racist.

>>50371720
here are/were your options

>explain to your friend that its a fucking joke
>blame 1d4chan

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>tfw you just paint miniatures so you're not too different to GunPla guys on /toy/ or model railway enthusiasts
>have to share a board with cretins who think in terms of cuhrazee XD roleplaying stuff like >>50359794

Like I get roleplaying and dungeon crawling and all that, but why is it that /tg/ seems to spend 90% of it's time talking about the 1% of real games that are "magical realm" waifu fetish shit. /qst/ did shift a bit of that though, credit to Hiro.

>>50349653
and started into it's edgy self destructive phase.

>>50374427
What did you expect?

/tg/ is the board for playing games, not painting them. I don't go on /po/ and complain about them making origami.

>>50374427
>implying the rape factory was randumb

we put a hell of a lot of thought into it

>>50374504

>/tg/ is the board for playing games
>/tg/ is the board for not going out, playing one game of some Magical Realm shit on roll20, then posting sexy witches and daemonettes and 40k memes

Fixed that for you.

>>50374504
>/tg/ is the board for playing games

/tg/ is the board for meme-ing hard with other neckbeards about neckbeard shit

>>50374674
well we did play games but then buthurt faggots got them all sent to /qst/

>>50354574
I'll sink your fucking battleship, car is best you goddamn rum drinking sodomite

>>50374504
>/tg/ is the board for playing games
It is not, you don't play board games here, this is not a forum games board. You talk here about /tg/-related things.

>>50374686

>buthurt faggots got them all sent to /qst/
>most of the "quests" were just waifu maid panty harem circlejerks

Oh, you're one of them types...

>>50374742
not only is that not true but there is nothing wrong with waifu maid panty harem circlejerks

>>50374686

Go to /qst/ then?

That'd be like complaining there's no more 40k on /tg/ if a /40k/ board just for it was made. You now have your own special place to do it.

Most quests were awful and choking up the board anyway imho.

>>50374782
>go to the board that has features that make it horrible to use and that exists soly because people got triggered

fuck that i would rather just adjust my quest to put it on /mlp/ it may be a containment board but at least i still have the built in audience interested in the topic that /tg/ had

>>50374816
frankly quests should have been allowed to be more spread out instead of contained entirely to /tg/ to begin with but stuck on /tg/ is still better then /qst/

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>>50374782
>I bought into the lies that irregularly occurring threads using 10% of the board is going to kill /tg/
>oh and the front page had all quests and quests took up 175% of the board all the time

>>50374742
>>50374761
>>50374782
>>50374816
>>50374863
>>50374933
Purely for my personal curiosity:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11722603

>>50363595
That's exactly what a containment board is you stupid newfag. Nobody said anything about it being just 40k(even though it definitely totally was).

>>50374933
Frontpage was almost all quests and generals, because those are the threads that get more and faster replies. You can filter the word "general" right now and tell me how many frontpage threads get hidden. I'm getting half of them at this moment.

>>50365870
/tg/ was originally tabletop games, but you would know that if you weren't an insufferable newfag.

>>50369253
Stranded in Fantasy?

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>>50374699

>>50376996
Here's your (You), you degenerate.

>>50365757
This is nice. Thank you.

>>50376996
a buff loli is a woman you silly billy

>>50349956
Yeah the smut was great.

>>50350501
The ones that complain about 1d4chan are newfags, shitposters, or shitposting newfags who'd fucking whine about it regardless. fuck 'em.

>>50377965
i still wanna find dranons delight 7
i dont even care about faping to it i did not fap to any of the others but the desire to read it knaws away at me

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>>50347092
> Be me, admin on 40k fanon wikia
> Two other Admins make/edit a bait article on 1d4chan, knowing the autistic users browse it all the time so they can be up-to-date on all the fresh memes about 40k
> The autismos are also all thin skinned narcissists who get triggered whenever they're even lightly criticised (told to fix spelling mistakes)
> Satanic Panic/Red Scare ensues after seeing the article. Worry is spread among the autismos about how their favourite website isn't a fan of them
> Admin starts raid by linking shitty articles to 1d4chan we can't just delete because the rules don't really exist
> Despite the fact permanent damage can't be done because it's a wikia, and literally everything is reversible, but the autismos panic none the less
> The mention of 1d4chan, or better yet, /tg/, brings bitter memories for years to come among thin skinned autismos who can't even finish or edit their articles properly
> The rage when I mention how the tactics sections "are pretty good"

Thanks for all the fond memories 1d4chan. As shit as the wiki is, it produced a lot of shitposting.

>>50360779
Someone posted a Khorne-trap picture the other day asking who it was...

well i dont OP, just seems like a collection of fanfiction geeks

>>50347724
/tg/ is a shell of its former self.

>>50378239
No, it shed its shell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=326WHOu0qEw

>>50353820
this is exactly what happened to me about 7-8 years ago. I kept finding links to 1d4chan, so I spent months reading it. then I spent months- a year or two reading sup/tg/ (1d4chan kept linking to it) before lurking on /tg/ for a while (again, months- a year) before finally posting ~4 years ago.

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>>50347243
>an almost overwhelming amount of misinformation

Yes.

It says Tolkien was racist but "that's okay because it was a different time."

Whereas Tolkien was actually a stuffy liberal intellectual who vocally opposed anti-semitism, apartheid, and the Nazis (well before WW2 even.)

But because "hurr durr LotR didn't meet the obligatory character quota for token black transexual lesbians in wheelchairs" so he must have been racist.

>>50378581
You know, you can oppose all those things and still be racist. Hell, Abraham Lincoln wanted to send black people to Africa.

>>50379068
Only because they lacked D vitamin under the american sun.

>>50347772

That's only because you got here after our glory days. Once upon a time, we had provable evidence that GW employees came here, and bits of /tg/'s lore has slipped into the earlier supplemental materials.

>>50347137
Oh god, this takes me back. I was dragged into 40k through 1d4chan. The information is pretty accurate, if coloured through the /tg/ lenses. From that page I started reading the novels, collecting the minis and eventually posting here. I guess I'll make it full circle one day when if I ever start editing and/or writing there.

Y tho

>>50382676
Because it's fun and a reminder of when /tg/ used to be fun.

I think we can all agree, TV Tropes and SBers have generally made /tg/ a worse board than it was before their influx.

>>50382743
SBers?

>>50382760
Spacebattles

>>50376969
...I'm mad!

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>/tg/ sucks these days! nobody produces OC, nobody shares stories, nothing!
>does nothing about it
Guys, if you don't like what /tg/ produces these days, the onus is on YOU to Make /tg/ Great Again. There's nothing stopping YOU from being clever. You might think that one person won't do much to sway the tide but remember this:

4chan is anonymous. Identity isn't clearly delineated here. You aren't one anon; you're many. Likewise, we are not discrete individuals; we are one. For the rest of us, there's no differences one anon posting a lot of OC and many anon posting a little bit of OC each. Furthermore, seeing lots of OC being created encourages one to make OC oneself. The ease with which we can take inspiration from one another and toss ideas back and forth is one of the things that makes the tabletop gaming community so great.

I love this board as much as you guys do. Or at least, I would love to love this board as much as you guys would love to. So I'd like to ask you guys to, whenever you find yourself wishing for better days, ask yourself what you are personally doing to bring those days back, or to perpetuate the status quo.

I believe in you guys. Ganbatte kudasai ne.

>>50383141
Fuck off tripshit.

>>50382812
X-Wingers are fine.
MtG is cancer.

>>50383160
no

>>50383141

Oh yeah? If 4chan is anonymous, why aren't YOU?

>>50386798
Maybe he's attempting some form of advanced shitposting

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Needs more Caldwell.

And a critical miss with the tab, I see.

>>50387505
kek

speaking of tabs holy shit i have over 30 tabs open

>>50387710
i just counted i have 75 tabs open

>>50374427
Because the other 99% of real games are fairly boring. They're either fun, but not entertaining enough to tell a story to everyone else, or kinda meh, but not bad enough to hang up on.

It's like how with miniatures some paint jobs are amazing, some are so shit their painter still lives on in infamy, but others are just okay or pretty nice.

>>50378581
Where do you even get racist from those views? Yes, he based his dwarves off of Jews, but he thought it was a cool and good thing - he obviously didn't make them one of the evil races.

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>>50347092
Like what you like. Remember that /tg/ is part of the wider 4chan group-think perpetuated by ageing wizards too entrenched in their autism to comprehend a new generation of anons. These are people who will never approve of anything other then their personal cockbait edition and for whom anyone a single day newer will forever be a newfag.

Like what you like. You'll be better off for it

>>50383160
He's right though. I see this happen all the time in forums - the people who used to post content leave after a while and the new posters just don't post content and would rather whine about a lack of content than actually make any. A forum's integrity is a communal effort and it's up to all of us to make a forum good.

>>50365705
Create content, and don't shit on stuff you don't like, just go to another thread. Half the problem with /tg/ is threads becoming shitstorms all the time. There's also the issue of interesting threads getting drowned out by generals and other forms of "same shit, different day".

>>50366931
>unfunny
You know 1d4chan is a wiki, right?

>>50369091
>/vp/
>/mlp/
>moot was smart
I'm not sure there's much grounds for this claim.

>>50352685
The jokes are oure cringe though.
>Le mat ward hate
>Le grey knights, more like gay knights
>Le badass normal human besting astartes
1d4chan is utter shit for fluff and is pure cringe for comedy. Its army tactics guides give pretty good and comprehensive guides though.

>>50379068
Yeah, because that's where they had been taken (forcibly, against their will) from. He wanted to undo what had been done, not banish them from forever because fuck niggers. Many black people also thought they should go back to Africa, and in fact many did. It didn't get that far, because the blacks were broke and charitable donors stopped caring to pay for boat rides over after a while, and also because people started to realize that Africa sucked. But that whole thing is why Liberia exists.

>>50390557
So is encyclopedia dramatica, being a wiki doesn't mean they don't try to be funny.

>>50390573
Better than having pokemon and pony fags shitting up /v/ and /co/ respectively.

>>50390652
The fluff is meh and stuff that I could get from a lexicanum, true. But I really don't know what else they would do for comedy. It's not as if a bunch of wiki-editing faggots in the internet are comedians, and no one's been making new 40k jokes, unless you count TTS, which I do not want to count.

So if you cut out the bad humor, you just get a more informal wiki, which is...nice, I guess? But at that point, why not go somewhere else to get info on things?

>>50387495
Best vampire.

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>>50392159
Damn straight. Anne Rice has a lot to answer for. The way she turned vampires like the Hammer Horror style monsters (and even "tragic evil" monsters like old Strahd von Z) into whingy twats is heinous. Of course, OWOD didn't exactly help either.

Here's another Caldwell vampire for you. Good God but did the man drew fit women.

>>50392251
Hawt.

>>50378239
So you're saying we have to make /tg/ great again?

>>50390187
Even the evil races were just the results of his version of the devil making mockeries of, enslaving, and perverting the good ones.

>>50374699
And just what the FUCK is the problem with drinking rum? I bet you subsist on Vodka you memeing prick.

>>50347092
I also like 1d4chan. Is there some sort of movement against it? That's stupid.

>>50392971
It's just newfags who hate being reminded of how new they are.

>>50392971
>>50392984
There isn't anything wrong with 1d4chan. The humor on some articles is obsolete, and some of the tactics sections for D&D and 40K are a few editions old. That's all.

>>50381781
>The information is pretty accurate
PFFFFFFFFFFFT

>>50359794
Oh man, what EVER would we do without all that hot garbage lying around?

>>50360862
Because he's 13 and can't let mommy catch him on porn sites

>>50367360
>We made Elf Slave Wut Do into proper discussions.
No.
You never did this.
This never actually happened.
It was all just self-fellating shitposting

>>50374427
>/qst/ did shift a bit of that though, credit to Hiro
Yeah, there's more fetish shitposting than ever now. Thanks, hiroshimoot!

The only time we saw a drop in fetish shitposting was when the Weekend Smut Threads got banned

>>50348883
Hey man, I at least try to write in the same style as the sourcebooks, and shit I've written there's been copied to the other wiki and turned up in a fucking meme so uh, thanks for the constructive criticism I guess.

>>50393761
>Questposters are seriously this desperate to justify /qst/'s creation being a bad thing
>Anti-smutfags are seriously this delusional

>>50392251
Eh, Anne Rice was just updating what was done earlier with Dracula, and earlier still with Carmilla.

I genuinely like the /tg/ hombrew chapters/guards, probably what encouraged me the most to get into 40k

>>50359794
All of that except the rape factory is LOLsorandum shit though. Rape factory is still LOLsorandum but at least its funny for three seconds.

>>50395786
/tg/ homebrew is objectively shit. Look at the knights inductor.

>>50395856
Hey, fuck you, I liked the Emperor's Nightmares.

One thing that IS objectively bad about 1d4chan is how some articles are nearly completely hidden with almost no links to any others. The only way to find many articles is to look at a category page.

>>50347092
ITT:crossboarding autistic scum that needs to die in the shit hole they crawled out of.
Fuck you and Fuck whatever shit hole you certainly from. 1d4chan is good as is except for updating certain things and you God damn fun hating shits need to go back to the mud hole you spawned from.

>>50396005
What if it's fun for me disliking things I don't think are fun?

>>50396038
>>>/v/
There's the door, don'the let it hit you on the way out.

>>50396074
>/v/ boogeyman
Neither /pol/ nor /tumblr/ were applicable?

>>50396165
Hating other people's fun is a pretty /v/ quality.

>>50396383
But now you are hating on my kind of fun, you /v/ermin!

>>50395341
I mean it. Either they get posted with more frequency, aren't buried under live threads as often, or are just kept alive by more shitposting, but I see way more fetish shitposting threads than I used to

>>50395856
And Warhammer High
And Emprahsque
And Live Can Bloom
And Angry Marines
And the list goes on and on

>>50396760
What a parade of fucking garbage

>>50396791
That statement ought to be a /tg/ banner

It's say more true than the old GETS SHIT DONE XDDDDDDDDD maymay

>>50396791
>>50396828
If you think /tg/ shouldn't produce content then why do you even come to this board? You obviously hate it

>>50393072
The newer game articles tend to bemuch better.

The arsepain on the end of WFB is dripping though.

>>50393733
Newfag.
>>50395839
How about Old Man Henderson?

>>50397335
>thinking OMH is either good or real
And you call others newfags