Could Exalted's Exalted beat Warhammer's Chaos Gods?

>>50346930
Holy shit yes, so easily. The strongest Exalts in the primordial war, we're essence 4, or 5. And the primordials are each about as strong as a chaos God, albeit more limited in scope. All the Exalted at Essence 10, would steamroll. Especially since there is hypothetically unlimited Terrestrials, and the Celestials, if they somehow die, can keep reincarnating.

>>50346986
but anon, Chaos Gods are not some random gods that came out of the blue... or Wyld... they are embodiments of primal stuff.

>>50346930
Chaos Daemons are intangible beings of pure power, who can manifest from another reality. Even if they're killed in realspace, they simply return to the Warp to fight another day. The Warp itself is even worse, an ever-shifting realm of chaos which twists and corrupts anyone and anything it touches.

No problem there. The Exalted were made to fight beings like that, win, and make sure they stay dead.

The tricky part is that Warhammer's Chaos Gods seem to be decentralized by nature. At first glance they may appear to be very much like Primordials or Raksha, beings so vast that they could be worlds unto themselves, who can project smaller magical beings which embody aspects of their greater nature; however, unlike their Exalted equivalents, daemons are not vital organs and the Chaos Gods do not seem to depend on them for continued existence. Rather, they depend on the emotions which influence the Warp for continued existence; rather than being a single self-contained whole like a Primordial, the Chaos Gods are roiling oceans of emotional energy which act as single thinking beings because of their common themes. Each one began as small sparks of emotion and the daemons they spawned, which gradually grew, multiplied, and eventually became what they are today; even if the Exalted destroy part or all of a Chaos God, this could keep happening again and again, so the gods could never truly die.

Idk, can Exalted kill the very concept of desire? Or the will to live? The problem with fighting the Chaos Gods is they aren't beings that be killed physically since they are the manifestations of emotions and feelings. As long as those feelings are being felt, the chaos gods will exist.

>>50347204
buuuuut, they didn't exist before the Old Ones weaponized the Warp during the War in Heavens

The Chaos Gods are not the origins of what they represent, though. For if anyone wishes to argue that Slaanesh existed before the Eredar murderfucked him/her into existing, you have to explain how anyone felt pain or love or hate or sickness before Slaanesh existed.

The Chaos Gods, once formed, are innately tuned into the elements that they have dominion over. They exist separate from the emotions that feed them, but they are not the source of them.

I argue an Exalt could indeed kill or at the very least dethrone a Chaos God and make them stay dead, banish them, break their existence as the embodiments of the thing they represent, and as such, their diseased, warped reflection of those qualities, that tint those who feel those emotions that they control, would be forced to make new gods.

New gods may exist to fill those niches, maybe less aspects and elements, maybe more. Maybe even less adjusted. Maybe more 'pure' and less grim and gritty.

But I believe the Exalts could easily meet them in their own incompreensible courts and beat them into non-existence, destroying their names and their attachment to their own feelings. Easily.

Hm, I don't know much about Exalted, mostly familiar with 40k, but I figured Exalts were more like Superman and Co... while what you guys say makes them in fact godlike.

>>50347314
>while what you guys say makes them in fact godlike
>exalted

Did you by any chance not read anything regarding exalted prior to this thread?

A newly reincarnated exalted, your basic level one scrub who earned their sigil, is super man tier from the get go.

That bullshit power goes up exponentially when you account for all the charms and gear they can obtain.

>>50347204
They beat the Primordials, which were literal concepts made manifest. So yes, yes they can.

Solars can also modify the universe with casual ease when they get older.

In terms of Exalted or even Werewolf: the Apocalypse, the Chaos Gods of 40K are just gigantic, supremely powerful spirits. They have names, they have consistent themes. They are eternal and all powerful and you power them just by existing, of course, but that just makes them very powerful and out of your depth.

Nurgle represents a warped and evil aspect of nature and order. He's the death half of entropy. He's suffering and disease.

Khorne represents war, violence and righteous fury, but he's the debased aspect of justice, righteousness and virtue.

Slaanesh represents the heights of passion, pain, rape and sensation. But they also represent love, hate and feeling.

Tzneech represents magic, mystery, mind, scheming and change. But also hope and intellect and will.

The Chaos Gods are just petty and cruel and debased versions of what would otherwise be normal gods in a pantheon. They're just driven so fucking crazy by the universe being so unfuckedly full of strife, conflict and war that they're insane.

The gods being insane therefore makes aspects of those feelings and thoughts to be insane, which affects the people negatively.

The misc. sentient races then feed it back into the warp and that insanity feeds into the chaos gods. The chaos gods therefore exist in a very nasty feedback loop.

In theory if a movement took off in the 40K where psykers tried to purify or bring sanity to daemons, make an army of sanctified daemons, they could make an army of uncorrupted and purified spirits. Which may eventually spread across the universe enough to make the warp into calm waters, where psykers could learn with much less dire circumstances, the waters much like when the Old Ones kicked around.

But this is 40K. that'll never happen.

Pretty much nothing separates The Wyld from The Warp in terms of how it affects living beings that enter it, and every Exalt worth his glowing sigil has charms to walk around places like that without caring, and some of them even have the ability to permanently shape places like that into stable, purified realspace.

They had charms explicitly designed to give permanent death to beings that endlessly reformed, vanished, discorporated and established new bodies, or were vast world-consciousnesses.

Exalts were straight up, in setting, built to kill things exactly like Chaos gods.

Forget just killing the Chaos Gods, give the Exalts enough time and the Warp won't even exist anymore.

>>50347031
So were the Primordials.

I don't know what the point is with having "my setting can beat up your setting" debates though because the overarching rules are completely different.

>>50346930
Yes,

>>50346930
Yes If anything the Primordials are stronger than the Chaos gods. The Full force of the Exalted Collective would crush them. Heck I am pretty sure the Unconquered Sun could solo the lot of them.