Warhammer 40,000 general

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>>50323680
First for the Blood God

Are Flayed Ones viable in the current edition?

>>50323680
Third for gluing pre-primed minis are suffering.

Is using a Medusa Strike Force at 1000pts unacceptable? I just want to be footslogging Necrons.

Demi Company
- Terminator Captain
- 4 bikes 2 grav guns
- 8 marines 1 combi & plasma gun
- 7 marines 1 combi & flamer
- 5 marines 1 combi & melta & rhino
- 5 devastators 2 flak & 1 lascannon
- 1 ven dreadnought assault cannon

Honoured Ancients
- 1 Dreadnought plasma & missile

>>50323723
No, they are literally necron warriors without Gauss rifles

>>50323723
Casually yes, tournament no. They can do their job, their job just isn't that valuable.

Do most people play games at 1500 or 1850?

I thought it used to be 1850 but now I'm seeing a lot of different point values.

>>50323748
Depends on the area/country.

>>50323748
I do 400-1k tourneys, 15-1850 evening games.

>>50323748

1000 POINTS IS LOVE

1000 POINTS IS LIFE

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What are the odds of most 1kSons' shit getting sold out before/few days after release?

>>50323723
>How does Admech play on the tabletop?
powerful shooting, constant mobility, but nor super fast unless you build for it. The have no transports to move their troops up quickly, but have some of the best basic troops in the game.

You can build them fast with rust stalkers and chicken walkers. It isn't the strongest build, but it is cool.

You can also build them into a gunline.

Mixed with allies, they can do some other neat stuff, but not the cheese they used to. Once upon a time, you could put them in space marine drop pods.

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>sisters of battle are getting an update!
>so unimportant they have to share it with 8 other factions

>>50323782
Why the fuck are you so paranoid about this?

>>50323782
Depends if the supplement leaks before models go up for sale

>>50323813
Like grey knights and inquisition you mean.

>>50323716
hes a big guy

>>50323818
Cause I've been waiting for Tzeentch stuff for a few years(as in I'm hyped af), but being a poorfag I don't wanna preorder anything before seeing the rules

>>50323759
>>50323760
>>50323762
So at your FLGS it's a large variety. Thank you very much this means a lot to me.

Any word on official GW store games? I just moved and I know I have a GW store but I'm not seeing a FLGS near me yet.

>>50323787
Ummm, anon?

Are you alright?

>>50323833
Pretty much, they're all just meme armies now ward has stopped working on them.

>>50323869
If it "sells out" it will be back in stock within a week. Don't worry about not getting anything.

Copy pasting from old thread:

How does Admech play on the tabletop?

Looking to get back into this hobby, haven't played since 4th edition.

Trying to decide between my original army (Tyranids) or trying something new.

Soulless murder boys always seemed cool to me but Necrons were so binary to play.

>>50323787
So theyre a more shoot army?

What do you mean by constant mobility, but slow?

>>50323869
If money's that tight you shouldn't be buying anything
If you base your purchases based on something's rules (when you've allegedly waited years for it) I have not sympathy for you

>>50323871
Oh I don't play at the FLGS, nearest one is just a hole in the wall with a kitchen table for MTG, I have a gaming group and a club.

>>50323871
>tzaangors will be premium priced cultists with mark of tzeentch baked in
>exalted sorcerers will have the brotherhood of psykers rule and be ML1 and like 40ppm

>>50323876
meant to reply to
>>50323729
from the previous thread

>>50323734
Scrape the primer off the attachment surfaces.

>>50323871
Try picking up the phone and calling them?

>>50323888
Just wanna make sure they're not absolute shit. I'd actually prefer them to be like top of tier 2, than number 1 op.

>>50323886
All their shooty shit is relentless, so they can always be moving, but he Kataphrons (Shootiest of the bunch) cannot run.

Can someone link me the Combat Patrol rules? We are considering going to that after the four Kill Team events are completed.

Please, and thank you, anon.

>>50323886
They all have relentless so they can walk and shoot, most have bonus moving through hard terrain but they have no transports at all.

>>50323905
Tier 3 is pure comfy tier, come sit with the IG and the other non-cheese armies.

>>50323886
They have some assault units (rust stalkers, etc), but most of their units carry big powerful guns.

They have a lot of access to the relentless rule if I remember correctly, so they can move and fire heavy weapons as well as charge after firing rapid fire wepaons. This allows them to stay moving, but infantry still only move 6".

>>50323813
We don't give a flying fuck, anon.
Keep whining about how your CSM update is not enough to make your army decent.

>>50323904
Yeah, it's just a bitch to do.

>>50323734
Superglue is your friend here. Also try covering the surfaces that will be glued together with tape before priming.

>>50323813
d-d-ddude p-p-plastic sisters confirmed !

>>50323748
1850 seems so arbitrary. I mean, 1750 is a multiple of 250 just like 2000, 1500, 1250, 1000, and 750 points games. But 1850 feels like some shop owner wanted to fit one more predator into his 1750 list and so changed the rules.

>>50323899
>Rubric marines will be AP3 relentless like in the good all times
20ppm

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>>50324159
HNNNNNNNGGGG

the good ol' times

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In honour of traitor legion supplement coming out you guys preparing anything?
Got my world eaters lord and word bearers sorcerer almost ready

>>50324237
Four boxes of Bezerkers along with Kharn are on the way.

>>50324292
Why would you do this to yourself?

>>50324292
I'm holding off from buying berzerkers until they get a model update it can't be too long now.... right... RIGHT

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Tweaking an IH list, would you play against this? I know its not competitive, but I hope it would be fun against decent lists. I'm new to marines

Sons of Medusa Strike Force 2000 pts

**Armoured Task force** 470

Techmarine-110
-bike, servoarm

Vindicator-120

Vindicator-120

Vindicator-120

**Stormlance Demi** 785

Chaplin-110
-bike

attack bike-50
-melta

Tac squad-85
-plas
Razorback-75
-TL plas/lascannon

Tac squad-85
-plas
Razorback-75
-TL plas/lascannon

Tac squad-85
-plas
Razorback-75
-TL plas/lascannon

Dev squad-100
-2 missle launcher
rhino-35

**Raptor Wing** 275

Stormtalon-115
-skyhammer missle

Stormtalon-115
-skyhamme missle

Land speeder-45

**Honored Ancients**-150

Dreadnought- 115
-hvy flamer, TL hvy flamer
Drop pod- 35

**Librarian conclave**-330 (Techmarine conclave)

Librarian-110
-bike, ml2

Librarian-110
-bike, ml2

Librarian-110
-bike, ml2

>my flgs lets me use "scions of the forge" with the decurion so I can run an extra 3 techmarines for the chaplain.

>>50324237
>That giant superglue thumbprint on the khorne guy's stomach

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Should I go Admech or GSC/Tyranids for my first army?

I was thinking GSC/Tyranids, but that Admech bundle coming in December is quite a deal.

Hey Anons, returning 1K Sons player here, I plan on getting the new models, but I've read that 8th is along the corner.
As someone who hadn't played (only painting/converting) since 5th, would you advise me to learn 7th or to keep doing my thing while waiting for 8th to land ?

I bought a new army today. I was intending to go Tau, but as I was looking at the different armies, the Astra Militarum caught my eye. I don't know why but my instinct told me to buy Imperial Guard and not Tau today.

Did I do good or bad /tg/?

Was my decision a bad one? Are Imperial Guard terrible?

Should have I went Tau instead? I'm really not sure

>>50324379
>Nids vs AdMech+Knights
Gosh, I wonder what the outcome will be.

New T-Son campaign book WoM and the new Traitor Legions for T-Sons

Oh boy I get to buy 2 books!

I hope Traitor Legions is just a reprint of WoM stuff

>>50324403
If anything, I suspect traitor legions won't have the new T-Sons rules for rubricae, termies, sorcs, etc.

>>50324400
If the bugs play to the objectives and Knight guy just strokes his rapid fire cock, gribblies might pull out a win

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>>50324379
I play both, Uhh AdMech gets much more love from GW because its imperium
you can do a lot of things with admech main+ about 500 pts of imperium allies

Which codex-adherent chapter should I paint my 1k C:SM army?

>>50324446
Marines malevolent

>>50324446
Depends
What style of play are you going for?
If you want to use everything just go alpha legion

>>50324446
Blood Ravens, of course.

>>50324446
Hammers of Dorn

>>50324491

Just standard codex stuff. 1k list is a terminator captain in a terminator squad, vendread, 2 tac squads and a predator.

>>50324487
THIS

>>50324385
FIRST WAVE FIRE
SECOND WAVE FIRE
ADVANCE
HOLD
FIRST WAVE FIRE
SECOND WAVE FIRE
FIX BAYONETS
CHAAAAAARGE

So a marine back from a Deathwatch tour can wear the silver pouldron. Do they wear it left or right? Silver arm too or just the shoulder?

How many basic infantry Daemonettes are enough for a Slaanesh Daemons/Noise-Marines centered Army?

Are Seekers usefull in comparison to fiends and bikers?

Thinking about a 1500-2500 points

>>50324532
I went with generic Mephiston Red with Black/Silver/Gold trim depending on the units
Gold is for HQs, Black for Troops, Silver for Elites. Gold weapons for the Champion of each unit to mark them out

>>50324435
So you think Admech would be a good first start then, at least to get used to the rules and such?

I figure the bigger models would let me get good practice with painting, too.

Then I can start up a Tyranid army when their new codex is released in 10 years.

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>>50324540
>>50324487
>the dick dastardly of space marine chapters
They're the canon 'count as loyalists' warband basically.

>>50324611
That beast is from the works of 1000heathens!

>>50324611
Carchardarons too.

>>50324611
If I ever collect Marines again, it'll be Marines Malevolent or Minotaur. I like the idea of playing asshole marines and triggering Salamander players.

>>50324487
>>50324611
>google marines malevolent
>1d4chan tells me they have skaaven shoot-into-combat rules

Man whatta bunch of dicks.

>>50324670
<3

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>>50324679
>1d4chan

>>50324359
I don't undestand where scions of the forge plans into the decurion? Do you mean the tech-marines replace the Librarians?

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Grey Knights converted into mini Castelan robots.

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>>50324446
Hammers of Dorn

Say it's the Black Legion getting confused for them.

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>>50324746
considered, and declined

>>50324796
What's this from anon-kun?

>>50324843
The head? Wargame exclusive, along with Necrons tits and Mammory Tau.

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>>50324902
it is kind of a shame really, because they have some cool models that are unusable because of it

>>50324385

IG are generally considered mid-tier - not OP, but not weak. They'll take some learning to get right (starter tips - don't be afraid to trade men for objectives or strategic purposes. They're going to die anyways, might as well make 'em die doing something worthwhile; specialize your units for one job and make them as good as you can at it; 100 S3 AP- Overwatch shots is fucking terrifying; never rely on one unit to get a job done, unless its a throwaway/distraction).

Tau regularly get OP shit, so you may struggle to find games (and you may very well find your carefully crafted non-OP list becomes the biggest cheese in the world next update, making everyone treat you like a pariah despite the fact that you tried not to be That WAAC Faggot).

As for whether you should have or not, that's something only you can answer. Think about what you want from an army, then look to see if IG or Tau can do that (or some other army, if neither can). Depending on what you got and what you end up going to (if you decide to go to another army), you may be able to make use of your recent purchases anyways.

Either way, welcome to the Guard, son.

>>50324902
>>50324937
Post the tau model.

>>50324937
>unusable
Do you play against nofunallowedfags or something? I use one of the Tau models as a Fireblade. Everyone gets a kick out of it.

How can we make 40k better? I'm thinking we get rid of most of the bloated imperial armies

make it something like:

>Imperial Guard
>Space Marines
>Ecllesiarchy
>Mechanicus
>Talons of the Imperium (Assassins, Inquisitors, Custodes, SoS, etc.)
>Grey Knights

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>>50324998
whoops missed one

seriously who the fuck likes alien tits?

>>50325014
I don't like smut models and don't want them in my army even if others are OK with it.

>>50325041

>Imperial Guard
>Space Marines
>Mechanicus
>Imperial Forces

Ta-dah. Done in 4. 3 if you roll the Mechanicus into Imperial Forces.

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>>50325047
Those are kinda dumb because they look like they got interrupted in the middle of changing their clothes. But I think this one is sweet.

>>50325062
>Imperium
Done. Compacted into one.

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>>50325078

>>50325041
Everyone plays guard and just guard.

>>50325062
True I was thinking about making SoB/Ecclesiarchy just part of the generic "imperial" list

I feel like GK have too much of their own stuff now to easily become part of any other list (and although it pains me to say it, the yiffies are probably the same as well)

>>50325079
Hah. No.

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>>50325014
Is it this guy or one of the samurai's

>>50325078
>Tau Culexus
That's pretty cool, actually.

>>50325018
I'm not sure what other model your talking about but those models look pretty damn sweet, Do you think if the Re-selling of the old daemenettes are really good they would rethink making more nicer looking female models.

>>50325088

GKs are probably the most likely out of those not listed to need their own book.

All the Yiffy stuff is just renamed versions of Codex stuff anyway. Long Fangs? They're devastators. Blood Claws? Assault Marines.

>>50325101
Yeah. Intended as a themed ally fig.

>>50325079
Mate that codex would be huge

>>50325114
I was more thinking of the thunderyiff cavalry, and those weird box aircraft they get

Fuck it, give all space marines the box-jet and maybe give the yiffs a supplement for all their other degenerate stuff

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>>50325097
Its this one, but with the pulse rifle over her shoulder. The samurais and other male models weren't out when I got it, but if I need more Shas'uis I'll be using them.

>>50325127

Yeah, they get a supplement at best. But if Black Templars get Crusader Squads, and are still C:SM, no reason why Yiffs shouldn't be C:SM either.

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I know this should go into the WIP thread, but this one moves faster, but has anyone figured out a similar/simpler way to do the colors on this? Namely the highlights. I know damn well that the base color is definitely not Incubi Darkness. Because Incubi Darkness is like a blue/green. If anything it seems like a blend of black/Incubi darkness into the regular highlight colors of Kabalite and Sybarite green.

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>>50324720
yeah, like the chaplain counts as an HQ choice allowing me to take 3 techmarines outside of a force org slot
>>50324597
yeah nids are basically codex:flyrants
I like playing FMC's but thats not fun for other people
playing admech allows for alot more avenues as a new player because of access to imperial allies

>>50325041
I think allies are a nice idea in general. But since Xenos factions are all isolated they need to do more to incentivize pure faction forces to reduce some of the super-friends effect of the Imperium.

Also Psykers need a revamp. 7th ed. Pychic powers are a pain and rife with abuse.

Most optimal way to run leman russes in GSC?

>>50325127

Honestly, I feel like that should be something done for all the armies. One base codex (ie. Codex : IG) and one extras codex (ie. Codex : IG : Regiments of Renown, which would contain special rules/units/force org stuff for playing specifically Cadian or Catachan or Armageddon Steel Legion regiments). Also, no BRB updates until everyone has had at least some kind of WD update if not a full new codex.

>>50325159
Allies is fantastic on paper, but in execution only truly benefits factions that don''t need it (Tau, Eldar, all of the Imperium).

>>50325132
ok so it wasn't THAT tau model

>>50325195
>all of the Imperium
Try playing a pure Inq or Scion army

>>50325195
Yeah, that's what I mean. Allies is 40k is almost purely fluff driven. There need to be some mechanical tradeoffs to going with allies for the BB armies otherwise it's always just going to be a tax on Necrons, Nids, Orks and such.

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>>50324789
That's what I'm going for with my renegades with the exception they're basically Iron Hands that reflect with this faction of the Black Legion. Black and Silver just seemed to dull for Iron Hands.

>>50325202
You mean the sniper one? I do want to get that one, but its lack of an in-game stand-in would do more to prevent me from fielding it than its nudity would.

>>50325216
Inq can do it, albeit the results are peculiar rather fragile.

>>50325243
>in-game stand-in
Objective marker

>>50325180
Fair enough, so basing it off your idea it would be something like

>IG:Regiments of renown
>SM:Chapters of legend
>CSM:Traitor legions
>Mechanicum:Knight households
>daemons: fuck know they're daemons
>eldar: legendary craftworlds
>Deldar: famous cabals? Haemonculus covens?
>tyranids:genestealer cults
>tau:farsight enclaves
>orks: da meanest and da greenest (aka mag uruk thrakas boys)
>imperial forces: radical inquisitors maybe?

>>50325078
The big titties and cameltoe ruin an awesome concept.

Fucking horndog sculptors.

>>50325242
Why are his bandages bloody? and why are they over his armour? I've never understood that

>your armour bleeding isn't normal, but on CHAOS it is

Do we have any clear information about 8th ed?

Anyone know the source on harlequin performing for humans on Imperium worlds?

>>50325155
So if you're using 3 Tech-marines instead of 3 Librarians why have you used the Conclave Formation? Is this just to represent some kind of force organisation? If so that's fine in my eyes.

>>50325279
Gouge in the armor thats deep enough to draw blood?

>>50325257
Ghazkhull already got a book to himself and it was just as shit as the actual Ork codex.

>>50325174
Exterminator with triple heavy bolters for lots of anti-horde dakka and passable anti-air.

>>50325243
there are also the techpriest models with all the inferior fleshy bits

some amateur tech priests they must be!

>>50325279
His Armour is becoming flesh, his flesh is becoming Armour, so he's starting to bleed in places, and perhaps its toughened leather

It could also be that the marine wishes to hide as many of his wounds as possible for fear of being picked apart by his brothers, or trying to hide the shame of being so badly beaten

>>50324373
Man, fuck Glue-Prints. I have a habit of using too much glue, so a lot of my models have them.

>>50325174
Exterminator for an actually decent jack of all trades.
Eradicator for a giant ignores cover fuck you to anything with less than power armour.

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>>50325242
Which chapter had the hardest lives, Lamentors or Oath-Broken?

If they met on the battle-field would they even bother to fight, or just exchange a silent glance, having seen the only sight more pitiful than they are

>>50325257

Pretty much, yeah. It wouldn't be specific to one subset of the faction; Tau would have more than just the Farsight Enclaves, Imperial Forces would be Radicals & Puritans PLUS different options for different SoB Orders, Tyranids would be GSC plus specific forms that the different Hive Fleets have picked up over time.

>>50325324
Yeah that was where I got the idea for the ghazgull supplement

I dont really know what would make a good ork supplement, maybe speed-kults or something mechy?

>>50325323
But why not have the bandages underneath the armour? Having them over the armour isn't going to help the wound

>>50325445
por que no los dos?

>>50325445
It doesn't look as cool.

>>50325445
Because you're a chaos marine who has mutated as such your body has fused with your armour?

>>50325445
maybe the armor is bleeding/leaking oils and hydraulic fluids, but the marine is fine underneath

>>50325423
Soul Drinkers

>>50323920
IA soon, fellow techbro

>>50324380
Rumor has it that there will be some pretty big change ups. I'd honestly just wait. Worst case it takes you an extra couple of days to get up to speed.

>>50325504

how soon

>>50323917
It is basically 400-500 points.

1 HQ and 1-4 Troops. The rest is limited to 1 and no heavy support.
No more than 2 wounds, no 2+ saves.
Vehicles can have a max of 33 armour. (Front, Side and Rear.) example a Chimera is F12 S10 R10. 32 total armour so it is legal.

Honestly it still works, since most of the cheese is upsent.

>>50325471
I'll accept this explanation, bandages on armour does look cool

>>50325519
March soon
Though theyve been delaying it and the next horus heresy book for a fucking while now

>>50325504
>>50325574
Please explain what the IA will bring to Admech

>want to fit an extra Ork HQ in to my list
>Ork horde gives me an extra slot but it's shit
>Can't split my troops in to four squads without dropping something else in my list
I want a thinking cap but I cant get my rerolls if I don't use a cad.

>>50325583
30k mechanicum units
Though who knows how limited theyll be cause forge world is being forced to do it by gw

>>50325594
Literally just take an extra hq

Orks are so shit I doubt anyone would mind as long as you're at the same points value, and they're not waacing faggots

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>>50325303
yeah basically, they are kindof a place holder. and it makes it legal across the board. just so many people on here call the libby conclave OP with IH.
plus, techmarines are cooler

>>50325583
Theoretically we will get the Choo Choo train and have our own transport for skittle delivery

>>50325626

>must haves
Domitars
Some variety of secutors (i want more actual techpriest looking units)
Thallax (for decent all around infantry without allying space muhreens)
Triaros (DUNE TRAIN)

>Would be Nice
Thanatars
Macrocarid

>For the lulz
Anacharis Scoria

>>50325626
So much of the 30k admech army will not match up to the 40k army
Their styles are so different

>>50325688
>>50325678
>>50325626
I know literally nothing about 30k

Any chance one of yous could tell me what kind of units we could be getting?

The choo choo train seems like it'd be nice for making electro priests actually usefull.

>>50325688

>Anacharis Scoria

I want him to be the hidden mastermind that tricked the tau into attacking. It would be amazing.

Also, objectively the best herohammer is also funny.

>>50325702
Flexibility is what admech lacks currently, if we could get enough variety to actually vary our lists it would make it the best army

>>50325702
Hence why FW is butthurt about being forced to do it
>>50325688
>domitar
Arent they bad though? Or do you mean castellax?

>>50325720
Go look on forge world under 30k mechanicum

>>50325720
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Mechanicum:_Taghmata_%2830k%29

>>50325155
Is there an actual battle rep associated with that image?

>>50325727

i want him to smack down abbadons, smashfuckers, jain zars, and other insufferable deathstars im sick of fighting

>>50325729
My bad I didn't mean play style I meant looks wise.
A shit more variation is exactly what admech need.

>>50325731
Yeah I can imagine
You make all these amazing designs and a actual balanced game only for the boss company to come along and loot it all

>>50325778

He does all that with ease. He's a lot of fun.

>>50325132
A) Nice alt pose.
B) Big Shas was out before she was.

>>50325787

forge world isnt even a seperate company like citadel once was

its basically just a separate office

though i do feel bad for them since their game manages to be far more interesting and engaging despite the game consisting of four red books and almost entirely space marines, and the main 40k devs constantly fumble this despite having like 30 codices for like 10 different races

May be returning after a fairly long hiatus, how are Dark Eldar? I know they got nerfed but how badly?

>>50325287
We don't even have clear information on the codex releases for December 3rd.
One step at a time, anon.

>>50325846
I think up until the recent TS release the DE were my favourite model line.

>>50325432
TUSKA THE DAEMON KILLA

>>50325846
Since the FAQ? Completely unplayable.

What exactly is it that gives tau battlesuits their strength? Particularily "farsight" lists? I can sort of guess at the riptides because FNP helps reduce the risk of using the generator(?) but what about the other suits? Any merits to crisis, coldstars, ghostkeels and broadsides?

>>50325846
They're a pretty weak army competitively but they are still fun to play. Venoms are your friends.

>>50325787
>My bad I didn't mean play style I meant looks wise.

yeah mechanicum looks infinitely less goofy


my guess is they'll stick to big relic type automata, where their baroque appearance in small numbers wont be so jarring

so basically no secutors, no vehicles, no thralls (not that the mechanicus needs alternative cheap infantry to vanguard)

more likely to see domitars, castellaxes, thanatars, maybe thallaxes and ursaraxes


on the other hand, gw might just not give a fuck and try to sell as many 100 dollar tanks as possible, resulting in every list having 3-4 triarios clashing with the GW sculpts

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>>50324237
Figure now is a good time to bust out my old plastic and metal plague marines, painted between the ages of 9 - 12 and finally strip and repaint them

Though I am waiting on delivery of some second hand Sisters of Battle and Adeptus Arbites that I've been excited to work on.

Gonna use the arbiters as inquisitorial acolytes

>>50325846
It's bad, man. D Eldar are probably the bottomest tier, right now. Floor tier. Dirt tier.

>>50325901
Codex Corpsethief Claw is great! What are you talking about?

Between Dark Eldar and Orks, who has the biggest transport related issues?

Neither of their transport options seem stellar.

>>50323716
>previous general created the idea of DP Angron running around butchering people while shouting "EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN"
>I can't shake this mental image and it's pretty much headcanon now

>>50325885
Jump shoot jump and deep strike I'd say. They have the ability to get where they want to be to attack what they want and get away from the enemy.

>>50325925
Tyranids

>>50325885
>tau battlesuits their strength
Fast movement, doubling up on weapons, deep striking
>Particularily "farsight" lists
You can take an army of absolutely nothing but suits.

>>50323723
Only when buffed with the rules for the Flayed One formation

>>50325824
I'd say that 30k is easier (still hard) to balance than 40k as most of the armies are just space marines with some special units and rules added to each legion
Where as 40k each race have all gotta have different rules to suit not only the playstyle of em but also the whole lore standpoint while making it all balanced

>>50325925
Deldar transports may be made of glass but holy shit can they move. Pretty fucking shooty too, their main issue is
>Open topped

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>>50325881
>>50325901
Oh goodie.

>>50325879
>the Grey knights of the ork world

REMEMBER LADS< GORK AND MORK PROTECT

>>50325941
Have a soft spot for mech suits and shit, but their model count just seems so incredibly low it makes me wonder, like where do they get staying/fire power from.

>>50325954
>Open Topped
Being able to dumb out tons of splinter fire shots is rad as fuck.
Being forced to fire all those shots as snapshots because said skiff can't survive without constantly jinking is decidedly not rad.

>>50325970
I'd pick up orkz so fucking fast if Tuska's Waagh got models and anti-chaos rules. I want to play elite orkz but I'm not paying that much money just to get shat on even more than I already do with my Codex CSM force

>>50325953

i wasnt talking about balance, the 30k rules are just way more interesting to me, the armies seem more rich in flavor

Psst hey guys, I need some mathhammer. I want 60 gaunts in a 12 synapse range, is it possible at 12 or 24in?

>>50326000
So is getting your ass lit on fire. Deldar and their ships alike toast up real nice under a Flamer template

>>50326000
>being literally FAQ'd out of our fluff
Being a DE player is suffering, anon. But at least our models can double as Corsairs if we feel like winning.

loli chaos space marine

>>50326017
Its an open deck. Why would it NOT be open topped? Its the most open topped vehicle in the game.

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>>50326023
>tfw Dark Eldar have effectively Ork-tier shooting ability and Guard-tier assault ability.
At least our models look the best.

Pulled out a T-son unit to join their new shiny brothers in a few weeks.

One of their heads is missing...

My sorrow and my rage know no bounds

>>50326028
All the rules fit them perfectly, the original question was which is worse between them and ork transports. Was just making the point that the moment you can get a template on them they eat shit, more so than most vehicles

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>go into gw to hobby
>some guy sitting at the table
>working on obvious chinaresin
>sanding it with a nail file next to his face and blowing the dust off everywhere
>turn 360 degrees and walk out

Fucking gamesworkshop

>meant to write an essay
>spent all night fantasising about wheeled chimera chassis'

>>50326090
On the plus side he won't be shitting the place up next week on account of his first round of Chemo
Problem is your local Blackshirt may be dead by then

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>>50326042
Damn straight. I finished pic related and I want to start on my venoms but I can't figure out how to do the paintjob in GW's style without it looking like total garbage.

>>50326042

Those big snake bastards do look cool.

>>50325982
All suits (bar the xv25) have multiple wounds and at least a 3+ save with easy, cheap and reliable invuln saves available as wargear, drones act as ablative wounds and markerlights give them the accuracy need to rape everything in and including AV14. This is combined with some of the most diverse selections of weapons makes battlesuits incredibly rapey to run

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>>50324330
I already play CSM and my friend plays Tau. Chain axes are AP4 and Tau are terrible at melee. My plan is worse than any plan ever, but if it works I will drink salty Tau tears for years to come!

>>50325802
>Scoria
>beating smashfucker
not really anon. mathhammer-wise, he only dishes out .138 wounds on smashfucker on the charge with the Xanathite Abeyant, while smashfucker will deal .74 wounds to him, more if smashfucker is the one charging.
while smashfucker does have to get through more wounds that Scoria does, smashfucker will get through those wounds far faster, meaning that statically, SMASHFUCKER PRIME will beat Scoria.

who will win

smashfucker

vs

one wraithguard

>>50326210
smashfucker. unless you have the D, smashfucker wins.

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>>50326158
Why buy the 1999 berserkers though?

Convert some blood warriors they look a million times better.

>>50326172
Is this factoring in Scoria ignoring Smashfucker's insane FNP and IWND rolls?

>>50323723
I love em. Infiltrate them somewhere good and wait to charge a vulnerable blob with 5 attacks on the charge with shred.

I use them against my skitmech playing friend and I've got him afraid of them. They stand a good change of surviving overwatch, especially with a decurion's 4+ reanimate

>>50326014
A=pi*r^2
A=3.1415*12^2
A=452 square inches

A 1" base for each gaunt so:
A=3.1415*0.5^2
A=.785 sq in

452/.785= way more than 60, bukko!

>>50326239
Oh shit, that's pretty sweet looking. Ah well, live and learn.

Give me leaks goddammit i cant stand it, give me leeeeeeaks!

>>50326245
yes. That calculation is based on SMASHFUCKER's rerollable 2++ alone.
shits crazy.

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>>50326266
yeah they are pretty sweet models with great conversion potential

>>50326272
we literally had the mother of all leaks less than 48 hours ago

>>50325445
Need to stop the bleeding but no time to remove armour plates. Wrap some gauze over the top as a scaffold for Marine super clotting to do its thing.

Whats the best way to paint a ton of models to table top quality? Should I get an airbrush?

>>50326264
Thanks

>>50326329
Washes.

>>50326297
what was it?

>>50326266
yeah man.
Back in HHG someone took the blood priest and converted it.
Looked pretty solid.

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>>50326290
Those glorious sculpts wasted on AoS

>>50326374
The entire thousand sons release and a supplement containing rules for all 9 traitor legions

>>50323680
How does one get into 40k table top. Im a big fan of DoW and Ive read the lore but never touched the table top game. Ive seen the 33 dollar spess merhrene starter kit. How good is it for starting off.

>>50326391
Fucken LINK

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>>50326382
the way the sprues are they were practically MADE for conversions

>right AND left hand axes, right at the shoulder joint
>left hand fist weapons too
>everything multipart and modular
>same scale as space marines

>>50326406
go to the warhammer community page
http://www.warhammer-community.com/

>>50326391
Fucken LINK because that shit's not in the OP

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>>50326406

>>50326406
are you really this out of the loop
http://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/19/this-december-all-is-dust-and-loads-of-new-books/
http://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/19/the-legion-unveiled/

>>50326382
you can literally just buy those and say they're normal zerkers.

>>50326416
Honestly the arm sculpts are Marine-y enough you could just snip the axe heads and replace those.

>>50326446
Would need bolt pistols if his group plays WYSIWYG

Are the Tzeentch beastmen going to just be cultist stand-ins? Or do you think they'll have their own rules?

>>50326455
exactly

>>50326460
ebay bit sellers can get you plenty of pistols

>>50326460
so then you do a 5 second conversion changing one of the hands to have a pistol.

>>50326391
>>50326422
>>50326429
>>50326431
>GW press release
>mother of all leaks
Fuck off and die redshirts.

>>50326484
>Leaked
>Later confirmed by gw

You fuck off you ungrateful cunt

>>50326484
it was leaked before it got officially shown, retard. not our fault you're like 2 days late.

>>50326382
convert them then you moron

>>50326484
Anon, I can't see you as you continue to gobble cock. But are you at least making sure you fondle the balls? I feel you're negelcting them

If I had Genestealer Neophytes with suicide vests, would you guys let that count as Demo Charges?

>>50326572
Neophytes can't take demo charges.

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As someone who only read the Cain books, which loreshit should I read next?

>>50326584
Oh, I know, I was going to have them mixed in with my Acolyte squads on the appropriately sized bases, I can't really fit the Acolyte bodies with the vests.

>>50326587
eisenhorn trilogy is p good. not the best storytelling/plot but overall its nice.

>>50326494
>>50326500
>>50326532
>drop some 'leaks' with identical images two days early because nobody reads White Dwarf or visits our sites to give a shit anymore
>"hay there fellow anonymouse I have the BIGGEST LEAK EVAR for you!!!"
Come back with some photos of the Codex or sprues like actual leaks in the past you half-assed pricks.

>>50326630
you know the leaked images came from the december white dwarf, which hasn't even been released yet? fucking idiot.

>>50326630
hey GW shills if you're reading this the biggest leak evar would be pics of plastic SoB

hint hint

>>50326484
>GW press release
>BECAUSE of mother of all leaks.

Be more shitcunt

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>>50326626
Bout to give it a try. Thanks lad.

>>50326464
WS4 BS4 T4 cultists with a 5++ save and brotherhood of psykers

Screencap this faggots, you know its true

>>50326464
they will be to cultists as warp talons are to raptors

>>50323680
1850 Pts Iron Warriors Warband
Chaos Space Marine : Chaos Warband : 1380
> Terminator Chaos Lord (120 Pts) FgGren, KrGren, Terminator Armour, Chainfist, Combi-bolter,
> Chaos Space Marine (295 Pts)
> Chaos Space Marines (19): FgGren, KrGren, Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Icon of Vengeance,
> Aspiring Champion (1): FgGren, KrGren, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW,
> Chaos Space Marine (295 Pts)
> Chaos Space Marines (19): FgGren, KrGren, Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Icon of Vengeance,
> Aspiring Champion (1): FgGren, KrGren, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW,
> Raptors (115 Pts)
> Raptor (4): FgGren, KrGren, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Melta gun(2),
> Raptor Champion (1): FgGren, KrGren, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW,
>Chaos Terminators (340 Pts)
> Chaos Terminators (2): Power Weapon(2), Combi-plasma(2),
> Terminator Champion (1): Power Weapon, Combi-bolter,
> Chaos Land Raider (1): Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, Twin Lascannon(2), Dirge Caster, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers,
> Helbrute (100 Pts) Multi-melta, Power Fist
> Havocs (115 Pts)
> Havoc (4): FgGren, KrGren, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Autocannon(4),
> Aspiring Champion (1): FgGren, KrGren, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, CCW,
> Chaos Space Marine : Fist of the Gods : 470
> Warpsmith (110 Pts) FgGren, KrGren, Power Armour, Mechatendrils, Power Axe, Bolt Pistol,
> Chaos Vindicator (120 Pts)
> Chaos Vindicator (1): Demolisher cannon, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers,
> Chaos Vindicator (120 Pts)
> Chaos Vindicator (1): Demolisher cannon, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers,
> Chaos Vindicator (120 Pts)
> Chaos Vindicator (1): Demolisher cannon, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers,

>>50326717
So...dogshit?

>>50326630
Youre an insufferable fucking faggot

>>50326655
>5e Newcrons leak had pictures of the new weapon profiles and 90% of the special rules from an Italian codex
>deldar leak had pictures of the Talos sprue sending everyone into a fit figuring out what it was
>WoM/Legions 'leak' two days early with a rehash of the official spiel
>this is somehow worthy of the title "mother of all leaks"

>>50326743
like a week early but ok. Dont know what you were expecting. I dont think ive ever seen anyone bitch and moan so much about getting to see new stuff early

>>50326695
You forgot beast unit type
;^}

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>>50325894
If we go another 6 months with the Adeptus FUCKING Mechanicus, the people who build almost every god damn vehicle in the Imperium, not having a single fucking transport to their name then I am going to fucking riot.

The only possible fucking justification would be if there is some GW Admech transport they're developing and they intend to release the combined Admech codex at the same time as IA with a handful of new models.

>>50326791
Silly anon, everyone knows that only pleb armies use vehicles and all the tech savvy factions have monstrous creatures instead.

>>50326791
Wouldn't the most admech 'effecient' way to be shooting them out of some sort of gun?

That also shoots d3 haywire shots?

>>50326281
Smashfucker only gets a rerollable 2++ when he's got psychic friends, that's hardly fair.

>>50326791
New IA hopefully in march
It only makes sense for combined admech to come before that
So maybe jan or feb

>>50326726
Holy shit unfuck your formatting

From what I can read, it seems alright, but there's no use taking helbrutes unless you're taking on of the helbrute formations from their dataslate, they're kinda shit otherwise, even for a fluffy list. Also maybe give the termis combi-meltas instead if you're suiciding, otherwise add more bodies to the list as a 3 man squad is going to get fucked over so hard.

>>50326843
Yeah no point counting psychic powers there since then you could also count that both models have Sanctuary, Veil of Time, Invisibility and Presience going on.

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Is everybody here excited for the Agents of the Imperium codex?

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>>50326912
Not really, no. A swiss army knife of allyfodder doesn't really get me hot and bothered.

>>50326912
Apparently it includes:
>Inquisition
>Grey Knights
>Adeptus Astra Telepathica
>Custodes
>Sisters of Silence
>Sisters of Battle
>Deathwatch
>Assassins
>and an unnanounced 9th division

I play Grey Knights, so having some new toys AND Inquisition AND Assassins back would be great!

>>50326912
considering i was just about to do some conversions for warrior acolytes 3 days ago i put those on hold now until i got the book.

but i am glad they get a update

>>50326966
It's called 'Allies'.

>>50326912
Depends on what the SoB get out of it, if anything. Else, I don't care in the slightest.

>>50326843
that's what a SMASHFUCKER PRIME is. if he doesn't have those stats, he's a lesser smashfucker.

>>50326966
>I play Grey Knights, so having some new toys AND Inquisition AND Assassins back would be great!

You already have all that shit available to you.

>>50326956

It saves me buying £90 worth of source books to field a Grey knight terminator squad, an Inquisitor and some Assassins.

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What did you guys accomplish this weekend?
I finally finished all my Lasgun and sergants

>>50327018
Yes, but maybe this'll bring some new toys into play and I can possibly share transports again after the damn FAQ's made battle brothers unable to hitch a ride in each others transports.

>>50327044
This thing.
>>50326142

>>50327044

Nice, I was working on FoW stuff so not really relevant to 40K.

Did you get those in the made to order or are they originals?

>>50324700

Hate to say it but as a new player this was one of the most accessible despositories of information pertaining to playing warhammer 40k. It gave me a good idea of how certain armies operate and what to expect while keeping it entertaining. If you can find me a better website ill use it, but 1D4 chan is a blessing for new players.

>>50327003
I still feel like that's retarded. Might well stick Scoria in a 10-stack of Sisters of Silence and announce that that's "Scoria Prime."

>>50327044
>reminder that GW will NEVER EVER make a plastic guard kit that isn't Cadians with the occasional bone thrown to Catachan.

what's the closest thing CSM can make to a smashfucker?

I'm thinking tzeentch marked sorcerer on a disk with the murder sword

>>50327076
Thanks! The gw store in NA still sells valhallan squads, so they're the original ones.
I did get 2 meltas, 2 flamers and a lieutenant from the made to order though who need to be painted up

>>50327096
Not even close, instagibbed by S10
Our closest is the Nurgle Bike

>>50327090
>Heretic in a squad of loyalists
One of these things is not like the other

>>50327093

GW is doing so much fan service right now I would say another plastic regiment is on the cards.

>>50327044
assembled some vindicators.
trying to figure out which FW tank would be the best choice for the centerpiece of a space marine tank only list.

>>50326966
What if the ninth was a stormtrooper update?

>>50327155
What are you, some mister common sense?

That would actually make sense very much.

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>>50327152

>>50327090
no, not really. it'd be like sticking scoria in a unit of homonculex as bodyguards.
It's a deathstar, that's how they work: using psychic powers and such to make one unit a deathmachine

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>>50327044

Just finished painting my first Raider as of 20 minutes ago, might go back and fix up some lines and add some nuln wash but overall im pretty happy with how it turned out. (Yes I see those white lines are not straight im going to fix that tomorrow)

>>50326172
Please explain how he's getting .74 wounds through a turn.

>>50327193
I thought Smashfucker was more of a one man unkillable powerfister than an actual deathstar.

I mean if you REALLY want to be an ass about it just make them both invisible and neither can kill the other ever.

>>50327223
He goes with a bikerstar and can detach to deal with things they can't. He's pretty pointless just by himself.

>>50327190
This or if you dont want to go superheavy, Sicaran.

Typhon is also a good choice in both looks and ruleswise.

>>50327193

If we are going that route, then Scoria takes 5 domitars or vorax and those rape the librarians.

>>50327096
Chaos Lord of tzeentch, Murdersword, power axe, disc of tzeentch, sigiil of corruption.

cons:
does not have eternal warrior
does not have a fnp

pro:
faster than smashfucker (jetbike turboboost)
more attacks than smashfucker also at initative with S10 ap 1 and ID when in combat against a unit with your marked target.

>>50327203

Looks awesome, man. Love the purple and the orange. If your whole army is painted to that standard, it must look amazing on the tabletop.

>>50327222
3+ to hit (0,66)
2+ to wound (0,55)
3++ save (0,1851)
4 attacks (~0,74)

When making a traitors hate list and using the chaos warband and cult of the damned, do the cultist get objective secured for being troops still? Or just the warband?

>>50327222
thunder hammer and lightning claw gives him +1A for a total of 4 attacks. he uses the thunderhammer, hitting on #+ because WS6 vs WS 5. this means four sixths of his attacks will hit, or 2.66 hits. he wounds on 2s because of S8 vs T5, which will result in 2.22 wounds. scorias 4++ brings that down to 1.11 wounds, and his FnP brings it down to .74. I guess technically I should factor in the IWND, which brings it down to .49 wounds, but that's still far more than scoria.

Any scans of Planetary Onslaught yet?

>>50327285

Thanks man appreciate the compliment! and yeah so far my entire army is up to that standard, have most of the start collecting box painted already but want to wait until I have the Archon painted before I take my next picture.

What are the odds of Magnus having a new way of generating powers/warp charges? Or will he just be ML5/ML4 gargantuan?

>>50327295
Scoria has fnp 5+ and IWND.

It's around .32 after that. But that's still if smashfucker has back up and scoria does not.

Question, are the Black Ark Corsairs of the dark elf army in age of sigmar possible to convert into Dark Eldar? Would their torsos be able to support the splinter rifle arms without looking funny?

>>50327338

The hopefull side says ML 6, Powers cast by him don't shut off near blanks, still generates powers but -1dice gen'd per blank

Realist side says ML5 Monsterous w/o EW

>>50327387
You forgot
>Toughness 6

Could a normal man wield a mining laser from the GSC? Or is it that crazy mutant strength, and a lesser man would need a partner to operate such a tool

>>50327270
well sure. you could make a scoria star, but as long as smashfucker doesn't get into a challenge, any one of your gaurds wounds will be tanked by PRIME and mean absolutely nothing. such is the way of deathstars.

>>50327351
not that it really matters. scoria's effectiveness will drop even lower without the bonus attack for charging the next round, and smashfucker will still be getting more wounds off. even if smashfucker only does .32 wounds, that means it takes him 15 turns to kill scoria, vs 23 turns for scoria to kill smashfucker.

>>50327431
Codex says they're better at operating their machinery than normal workers.

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Bork just lost to an aging Goldberg in less than a minute.

Is Goldberg an Ultramarine?

>>50327431
Considering mining lasers are carried by three-armed guys with the same S value as space marines, no, a normal man could probably not wield a mining laser unsupported.

Supposedly they normally use mechanical servo-arms attached to the suit.

Does the new CSM update mean chaosfags wont get to whine in every thread now?

>>50327599
I really fuckign hope so. But they'll find something to bitch about, I bet.

>WAAAAH Why aren't our bolt pistols s10 ap1 Ignores Cover, Shred!?

>>50327628
That's SM, not CSM.

We like bolters, we just don't get to use them

>>50327681
>That's SM, not CSM
>im-fucking-plying

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>>50327628
>>50327681
>>50327725
Dont talk to me or my thousand sons ever again

>>50327599
nope. they were bitching about it last thread, and it's what they've been begging for for years.
CSM will always find a way to bitch.

>>50327599
it isn't a new codex, just a supplement. Unless the "supplement" overwrites two thirds of the codex entries it won't actually fix what is wrong with CSM

our 6th edition codex is weaker than our 4th edition codex

>>50327733
>Chaos: not even once

>>50326464
Bolt pistol, +1 attack, daemon of tzeentch, maybe fleet? ap3 pistols? at least one other gimmick probably

probably ws4 as well, I wonder if they'll retain the brotherhood of psykers shit

>>50326464
Fearless 5++ cultist with no weapon options

9ppm, base unit will be 100 points

>>50327521

Pretty sure Neophytes are s3 anon

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Gentlemen, how do we make 40k more weeaboo/japan oriented?

>>50326695

>T4
Those skinny fuckers? Not a hope.
>BS4
Anything dressed as a tribesman will not have BS4.

Will probably have fear tho.

>>50327883
just play tau

>>50327599
We haven't even seen whats in it. If it's bad then we will say it's bad.

>>50327794
How I arrived at that value: despite being more restrictive than regular cultists, Tzaangors are also better. Therefore, they should cost more. This is the philosophy all throughout the CSM codex.

>4 points for a cultist
>+1 point for MoT
>+1 point for DOUBLE MoT 5++ save what?
>+? points for fearless?

To find out how much fearless is worth, look at Noise Marines
>17 points
>subtract 13 for the marine
>subtract 2 for the Mark of Slaanesh
>fearless must be worth 2 points

With this in mind, Tzaangors will be 9ppm, with either a 90 point or 100 point base cost. I know I said 100, but I am actually leaning towards 90. The Tzaangors box doesn't have an obvious champion, so I am guessing they don't get one.

>>50327883
We wait for the next Tau update

>>50327899
>chaosfags can't even into basic arithmetic

>>50327411
nah T5, so you can ID it with S5 PF and vindi templates

>>50327892
>>50327904
Believe it or not, I remember reading that Guard was the most popular army in Japan, not Tau. Apparently it had to do with the Guard being similar to the JSDF.

>>50327985
That doesn't surprise me.

>>50327985
>this isn't at all like my japanese animes

>>50327985
Well japan already has all the mecha it good ever want already, so there's little reason to care about a poor british knock off of it.

>>50327985

I can't believe there is any country where Space Marines are not the biggest sellers. However, I'm not surprised the Japanese don't like something that is so obviously marketed towards them.

Also if they like animation they'll just go watch that not pay millions of Yen for Warhammer.

>>50327899
If they had mark+daemon of tzeentch they'd probably be useful no matter what as just 4++ infantry desu

>>50326743
Make sure you hit refresh all day this thursday, mate. You don't wanna miss this shit.

>>50327883
I got a buddy converting his Space Marines with samurai bits off of puppet wars.

I just want to see what the Black Friday deals are.