Jumpchain CYOA Thread 1186: Sweetrolls & Memories Edition

Why'd the thread just get deleted?

>>50318433
Fixed the title.

>>50318439
Ah. Righto.

On the subject of titles: Jumpers, what are some of the titles you've earned over the years?

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>>50318443
In Naruto, the people of Hidden Rain called me "Princess", on account of I was the favored disciple of the "Angel" who was in service to "God".

In more clarity: by luck of the dice, I landed in Amegakure, the Village Hidden in the Rain, and rather than do the smart thing and buy a village bloodline or pay my way out, I said, "Fuck it", and just bought Konan as my mentor.
Konan and Pain have crafted a sortof divine air around themselves, and the village basically worships them as gods and protectors. As Konan's favored student, this extended (albeit to a lesser extent) to me.
This had pros and cons about it.
On the one hand, this meant that I was basically teflon as far as getting in trouble. I could do just about anything I wanted, and people just fell in line. On the other, there was enormous pressure to live up to it, to protect the village and never, ever disobey. I was simultaneously the most free and stifled.
Anyway, there's not really a better title for a position like that, since I was notably "favored" but not necessarily "in charge".
So, I was "Princess of the Hidden Rain".

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Naruto Jump 001:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Stuffed [+000]
Boruto [+000]
There's How Many Movies? [+000]
Fanverse (Something that’ll draw attention away from me) [+000]
Reviled [+100]
Hunted [+300]
Verbal Tick [+100]
Angst [+100]
Super Pervert [+100]
What do you mean it’s an illusion [+150]
Low Priority [+200]
Dysfunction Junction [+200]
Boiling Blood [+200]
THE CHOSEN ONE [+300]
Blood-Lust [+300]
MC-KUN [+500]
An Actual Ninja [+1000]
Location: The Gelel Vein [-50]
Background: Orphan [-100]
Bloodline:
Uzumaki [-200]
Senju [-300]
Uchiha [-800]
Perks:
Basic Ninja Training [Free]
Elemental Chakra Affinity (Wind) [Free]
Bukijutsu Specialization [Free]
Sensor Ninja Training [-150]
Samurai Training [-150]
Therapy no Jutsu [-200]
Plot Armor [-400]
Genius of Hard Work [-300]
Glorious Leadership [-600]
Fuinjutsu Prodigy [-300]
Gear:
Basic Gear [Free]
Signed Icha Icha [Free]
Fuinjutsu Kit [Free]
Chakra Armor [-200]
Raijin [-250]
Companions:
Sensei (Kakashi) [600]
Teammates [-700]
Sasuke [700]
Naruto [700]
So, last night I was inspired by some Naruto-posting to create this suicidal side-chain.

Here's the plan. The Gelel Stone is a source of energy unto itself, Gelel energy, and with my mastery of Fuinjutsu I should be able to modify the nature of the Chakra Armor to use the Gelel energy, heck if this one even uses Chakra as it doesn't really say if it does or not but I'm assuming so.

Once that's been done it's a long, hard trek back to Konoha. Hopefully someone doesn't catch my ass, but no one should have any reason to think I'm gone till a day or two has gone by. Keeping to civilian channels often helps but being the only actual ninja in the world has pissed some ninja off severely over the time I've been here. Chakra suppressants like those used by Tsunade are a favorite [scentless, tasteless, and traceless in water yes please] of mine and I'm basically undetectable were it not for my blasted crimson hair.

>>50318443
すべてのボスのボス,
banchô, Grand Master of the Forge, Capt., Divine Chancellor, devious rat bastard, planetary governor, the devil,M.D., Surgeon General, Dr., Sgt.

Are there perks that let your mind multitask / think multiple thoughts at once?

>>50318601
>Mastery of Fuinjutsu
You mean knowing how to make two types of seals?

But seriously, you're dead. It's physically impossible to beat the jump with every drawback and I do not believe there is anything you can do to change that.

>>50318642
You could probably do it if you used medic ninja training to poison your team into comas when you're sent on your first mission. Then sell whatever items you have to get to the nearest place that sells a boat and go to a different continent. Then try and find a quiet place to stash your team and wait out the next few years.

>>50318641
Queen Administrator, provided you're OK with most of those thoughts being about bugs.

>>50318683
Except MC-KUN specifies you need to have the two succeed at the plot, if they fail, you do too. Without these two, the story results in the world being forced under the Infinite Tsukiyomi.

>>50318641
There's a perk in Tsukihime (Memory Partition) that lets you partition your mind into seperate thought processes. You start able to split into four and can improve it further to training with the best example in canon being capable of over 1.6 million. There's also perks in Dune I think.

>>50318642
>You mean knowing how to make two types of seals?
Didn't mean for it to sound like that was going to happen overnight. I meant something along the lines of 'when I get there I will', sorry.

>But seriously, you're dead. It's physically impossible to beat the jump with every drawback and I do not believe there is anything you can do to change that.
Oh I know, that's why I said it was a suicidal side-chain. I guess I could find one of those fics where Naruto or Sasuke fixes everything and the plot is mostly political but good ones of those (good ones at all) are rare as hen's teeth.

>>50318683
You know I really did think of just heading off to God Knows Where as well. Training and taking time to study abroad as I coordinated with the team through a spy network or something.

>>50318697
Yep. Had I not nabbed MC-KUN I would've been able to do the above plan but with all drawbacks this is death. The thought experiment is fun though. Just thinking about how you'd go about things is so neat sometimes.

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>>50318443
In the Devil Survivor continuity, I was the Fresh Prince of Bel'Air.

One of the True Fae enslaved to me happened to own the Title Prince of Air and Darkness, and another one had the Title Everfresh Margrave, so I traded them some Noble Phantasms for half their titles.

Which...turned out to be not really worth it when I found out nobody near the main fights knew what the hell I was talking about.

I kept trying to announce myself, but Yuzu, Atsuro, Mari and Amane didn't even understand me. Gin and Haru DID get it eventually, but I caught them using Google. And Naoya was too busy grilling me on where I got all these strange demons from.

Dad and Canopus understood the reference, though! Well. They just stared blankly at me while nodding uncomfortably. But still.

>>50318641
Memory Partition from Tsukihime, various perks in Dune and I think there's one in Alpha Centauri too, off the top of my head.

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>>50318443
In NGE, I was the Fourteenth Angel. In Fallen London, they called me the Ninefold Vortex; on the Sunless Sea, they called me the Duplicated Traveler; and in Spice & Wolf I was a Knight Errant of the Order of Royal Huntsmen. In Creepypasta, they simply called me Trespasser.

>>50318641
Newspeak, from 1984.

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>>50318443

Ghost In The Shell - Hard Luck Lucy. I never had a deal go right and always managed to piss off the wrong people.
Platoon - Vampire de Orleans, I ran a French resistance cell out of there, killin' and stringing up Nazi's
Ace Combat - Demon Lord of the Round Table. I rolled Ustio during the Belkan War. Sorry, I know, self insert but fuck you Ace Combat Zero was the best and was getting in on that Galm flight action.
Warhammer 40k - Living Saint. The strength of the Emperor is Humanity, and the strength of Humanity is the Emperor. If one turns from the other we shall all become the Lost and the Damned.
Strike Witches - Sundance. Ironically given, I was a night witch and I mostly ran night ops.
Hive Queen (And pretty much every jump after that) - Supreme Hive Queen of Justice and Deliverance. Since that jump I've gone out of my way to spread my daughterus far and wide to defend Holy Terra from the evils of collectivism, the degeneracy of the mutant and the tyranny of the Xeno. As a mutant leading a hive mind of xenos the Irony is not lost on me. Anyway, it stands to open diplomatic relations with the powers in most instances.

>>50318697
I'm assuming that MC-Kun means you can change canon and just need to keep them alive. I was operating on the assumption that they'd need Naruto to bring back the Juubi. I suppose if you send scrolls detailing everything that Akatsuki was planning to everyone you could it might derail it long enough for you to survive.

>>50318781
Same problem as the last guy who considered that. The villages have no reason to believe you and probably a good number to not believe you. The drawback is also pretty clear on needing to help them succeed, though you can change canon. That said, considering that even without the Juubi, they'd still have Pein there to use the other bijuu in his plan or just do it himself. I've got serious doubts that Pein terror bombing everyone into obedience can be considered a victory by any stretch of the term.

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Huh, I just looked up the wiki and-Nepgear really DOES go on to become an evil overlady on one ending! On the other hand, I barely know anything about HyperNep.

Thoughts on Nepgear as a companion?

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>>50315950
Loving it so far, Myrm. There's a copypasta error in the AGI perks, though- their 600 is listed as discounted to Drop-Ins.

>>50318687
What jump is it from?

>>50318716
>>50318727
>>50318746
Thank you! I'll check them out.

Another question: does each individual thought process become slower as their total number increases? Or they're all equally fast regardless of the number of tasks? Should I just fanwank something?

>>50318687
I'm surprised no one has tried to enhance that power via a large number of insect-controlled fighting robots.

>>50318904
queen administrator is from worm

>>50318904
Queen Administrator is from Worm.

I think all of the perks/abilities give multiple thought processes that are equally fast as your normal single thought process. Don't think there's any change in speed at all.

>>50318822
Well granting both Naruto and Sasuke 700 CP to work with might pull them out of some shit, but realistically there isn't any way I could do anything effective. Remember Sakura from the beginning of the series? that weak ineffectual girl who shook and held a Kunai. That's basically me in a real Ninja fight.

Problem is I don't get any better. The Gelel Stone can give me a whimsical shadow of what Ninjutsu can do, a nice bit of regeneration, and a little transformation. However, that movie was pre-timeskip and the BBEG still got his shit kicked in by Naruto.

After the time skip I'm basically pulling Shikamaru, if I survive the quackery of Filler Hell. By the time Pein hits I can't be anywhere nearby or else I'm dead.

I mean you could game the system a bit by saying that the Chakra Armor doesn't need any of your own chakra. But even with the Chakra Armor and with the idea of Technique Scrolls & Kote thirty years ahead of time I don't believe it's possible to win this. I do like to think of the life that he may have had, though.

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So, newest WIP for Infernals.

Items aren't finished, but there have been a few additions.

New perks for Elloge, two general ones, and one rewrittten one for Metagaos.

Probably most importantly, Companion section is finished. (though I may adjust CP costs/budget for them later)

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So, how do your non-human companions, who later obtained human forms, feel about the fact that, in order to blend in, they can't use their "real" body 99% of the time?

Do they miss the body they were born with? Are they confused by human conventions like "clothing" and "hands?" Are they more likely to get mad at society for not accepting them, or you for taking them places where they can't be themselves?

Or do they just flat out not give a fuck?

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>>50319074
>Qaf Charms
>Unwoven Coadjuator Import
>All those potential manses

Hype!

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>>50313198
>On the plus side, once you have The Song of the Shadow (I got the name wrong earlier, Path of a Thousand Whispers is its prereq), you can make them pretty cheaply. It works by channeling the power through one of your Third Circle Demons, so they spend the motes and Willpower for it. Costs you nothing. So you can make about four or five a day without any risk to you, providing you send your demon back into your Inner World to rest every time and keep it safe.
Actually, the Investiture of Infernal Glory takes a few days to complete.

So, not quite four or five a day, but you can still make a whole bunch of them pretty easily.

>>50319077
The presence or absence of resentment and grief at not being able to strut around in their native form is entirely dependent on the individual and their own values.

Confusion is easier to gauge. If their first human form is from a Drop-In origin, they'll probably have some physical and cultural trouble early on. Other Origins which provide memories of being human would mitigate that.

>>50319074
...

>[ This is all wrong.]
>Remember the Past
>You Are Not Me
>Can’t Keep Me Down
>Once Before, Never Again

Should I be worried?

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>>50319074
YES! I'm up at the same time one of the updates is again, nice!

Huh. Imagine meeting your Lunar during the jump and NOT buying that companion purchase. "Nice to see you, this destined bond is neat isn't it?Also I'm going to leave and never see you again in 9 years 4 months 2 weeks, so-YOLO"

>>50319156
Naaaaah.

It'll be fine.

Who wants to listen to some moody old dead Solar's memories? Past Life's terribly overrated as a background anyway.

>>50319077
Er, they...don't really, because they've developed some rather sophisticated illusion-hologram systems over the centuries so those haven't really been anything more than a curiosity. So they just do how they do, and nobody's the wiser.

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>>50319125
Should be good when I finish those.

>>50319156
That depends. How do you feel about having the remnants of an ancient God-King's personality and memories imprinted on your mind/soul?

>>50319198
Being awake for updates is nice.

And yes, would feel sort of weird to meet them without that.

>>50318641
Quantum Mind from gundam anno domini, and if you consider it kosher then old mage's mind sphere can do so as well.

>>50318965
Hey Gaunlet, after the jump is over, can our Hollow form be a physical and visible body?

>>50319694
There is no real reason to do so, but I understand. I'm not sure how I'm going to handle this, hadn't thought of it. On one hand there is no real canon example of a Hollow being more than just a spiritual beings, without very specific circumstances. On the other hand that's really limiting... I'll have to think of this one.

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How hard would it be to companion Gilgamesh? What perks would help?

>>50319750
Well, technically, can't all spirits above low Shinigami/Hollow interact physically with things? I seem to remember physical damage to building in the real world being a common occurrence. So really I guess it's not /that/ big of a limitation, just kind of irritating. I guess we can just use Final Form to get around it.

Didn't Shinji actually retain his powers in a gigai, come to think of it?

>>50319814
Just like of irritating to always be invisible to normal people*

>>50319694
I don't want to be forced into something non-canon like that.

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Jumpers, have you ever been invited to be part of a conspiracy, whether from background logic or your actions in the world?

When I jumped Heisei, my having the G4 ended up being justified when an organization named 'Codega' had formed in response to Shocker's nonsense years ago. The goal was to create a functional branch of police specifically for locating and combating 'Undentified Life Forms'...which included the Grogni and future Monsters of the Week. Thing is, only a few small and specific group of people seemed to think this was a good idea at the time, so it was kept under wraps.

Anyways, I ended up joining them and that's how I got involved in the plot of Kuuga and Agito at large. It's also how that jump turned into basically a buddy cop movie, and how I became known as 'Kamen Rider C.'

Jumping Neo-Heisei momentarily. They've fallen on hard times since I left.

>>50319127
I meant that it's cheap enough that you could set up multiples per day and have them all proceed at once.

>>50319772
I don't know what the rules are on purchased companions refusing companionship.

You may very well be able to tell him "you don't get a choice" if you take him as your servant.

>>50319814
Hollows interact with the physical world often enough but I believe its mostly foot print, so it might just be artistic emphasis or uncontrolled spiritual pressure. Rukia stepped through a wall at a couple of points throughout the series and then you get things like the Grimmjow first fight which to memory tore up huge amounts of shit, so it's one of those things that isn't amazingly consistent. I'll say that you keep your Hollow self as an alt-form but it'll be held under the laws of Canon.

Does multiplayer happen post-spark?

>>50319959
Illuminati confirmed.

>>50320001
Only if you beat the secret boss on the Jumper Must Die difficulty in under 5 jumps.

>>50319974
It just occurred to me that you can summon Gilgamesh as your Servant but not spend any CP on him so that's he's a pathetic shit.

>>50319998
Do you have to be your Hollow alt form to access your Hollow abilities and reiryoku?

>>50320001
Yes, so you better min/max a lot because I'm going on a rampage once it ends.

>>50320040
Nah I wouldn't do that to ya.

Can I pay CP to companion Flowey in Undertale?

>>50319966
Nope, sorry. You can only grant the Investiture ability to a single demon with Song of the Shadow.

>>50320073
Hmm thinking on it I'd actually like your opinon on >>50320040 this.

>>50320073
Oh, then sounds good to me. Thanks, man.

>>50320077
Maybe using the Greater Monster option?

>>50320088
I'm pretty sure Chad literally hits a Hollow with a telephone pole before he even develops the ability to see Hollows.

>>50320081
I know. But the demon isn't involved in the process after setting it up. That's the Yozi (or Infernal, in this case) doing the reshaping. So if you had sufficient multitasking ability you could handle multiple cases at once. Even if it was the demon doing it, Third Circle Demons can be in multiple places at once, so they could still conceivably craft several akuma at the same time.

>>50320133
Oh yeah.. the chapter with the parrot. It's been a while since I read the early sections of the manga in as great a depth.

>>50320064
Rampage jump when?

>>50319074
I like the new perks. Elloge's are pretty cool, and the Inner World functioning as a manse if bought as a perk has a lot of potential for fun times. Why does this jump have to have so many things I want to purchase? I'll never be able to decide.

>>50320088
I know this doesn't necessarily affect you as much as it will Reborn, but it seems a little unfair for Hollows and Shinigami to be limited in such a way when Quincy and Fullbringer aren't. Especially considering Hollow and Shinigami tend to be more expensive.

>>50318601
I remember Ninjanon saying any high tech or chakra tech breaks down, doesn't work or you can't operate it/make it because real ninjas didn't have those. That's also why Sage of Six Paths giving you his chakra does nothing in this jump

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>>50320164
All jumps are rampage jump, anon.

>>50320175
It does seem a bit dumb. I'll admit to that, but it is the canon of the world.

>>50320179
>I remember Ninjanon saying any high tech or chakra tech breaks down, doesn't work or you can't operate it/make it because real ninjas didn't have those.
I can't find it, not saying that it isn't a thing just saying I can't find it in a quick archive dive.

>>50320329
>>I remember Ninjanon saying any high tech or chakra tech breaks down, doesn't work or you can't operate it/make it because real ninjas didn't have those.
Yeah that is an actual thing. The point of the drawback is you're an actual ninja, not that your companions can make you an awesome suit of power armor.

If Spyro is around, I have a question. Would it be possible to update the jump to include a point-buy option in the jump that allowed you to take additional selections in the supplement?

I really like some of the options in that supplement, and if I could toss some CP at picking up a few more that'd be awesome.

>>50320352
Cool beans. Also as it were Gelel stone won't work at all for me will it?

>>50320359
I'd like that too but posting requests that often makes you seem desperate.

>>50320370
Sorry, I really don't want you feel I'm trying to single you out or anything man. But no supernatural stuff will work for you.

>>50320371
I get that, but I only post the request once a day, not every thread, and I'll stop as soon as Spyro responds. Not looking to make it a crusade, just looking to hear from him on whether he's cool with that or not.

Thanks, though!

>>50320395
Nah, no problem. Then I've got an idea for this. Would you say that taking a poison that already exists and making it into an aresoul would still be possible for an actual ninja, they did many such things before with powders, mist, and such before so could I manage to work with poisons that already exist?

>>50320260
Is that a real table top game?

>>50319074
So does Thousand-Toothed Blossom now not hurt Yozi at all? I thought they were afraid to enter Metagaos? That suggests that he can damage them in some way.

>>50320431
You can use poisons and other low tech things. I'm not sure about aerosols might be a little late century though. They were invented in the last century or so, weren't they?
As a rule, it's got to be feudal/medieval tech level to work for you.

>>50319074
can someone more simply explain writ of worlds?

it basically allows me to write into existence fictional things right?

>>50320464
Pressurized Salt Acid (basically spay form of hydrochloric acid) was a thing back in the day. Spays of several things were a thing, but until recently we haven't had the pressures that we can get nor have we had the portability. Coating all weapons with poisons and figuring out how to create seals for invisible and silenced, I'll get Naruto to charge them through a dummy-proof array, should be high on the list then. Granted I hope to actually be on the more hidden forever thing, using the combination of the fact I don't have chakra to sense and the fact that I'm going to be damn good at stealth after training as much as I'm going to in it.

>>50320555
>Pressurized Salt Acid
Really? Who did it? That seems like it would be difficult to do, if it's hydrochloric acid like I'm thinking. I'm honestly curious here.
You are a bitch to detect through normal ninja manner though. It's pretty much the one thing you have going for you.

>>50320533
The way it reads it's less fictional things and more physical manifestations of language. Harsh words turned into a sword, confusing parables made into traps, vibrant narratives into living things... basically taking the metaphor out the phrases we use to describe language and making it literal.

>>50320555
>Pressurized Salt Acid (basically spay form of hydrochloric acid) was a thing back in the day.
... The Mummy is not a documentary, Gaunlet.

>>50320555
>Pressurized Salt Acid (basically spay form of hydrochloric acid) was a thing back in the day.
>[citation needed]

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>>50320142
Nah, the Yozi/Infernal only needs to authorize the use of the Charm.
>If the prayer roll is successful, the Yozi is persuaded of the petitioner’s sincerity and authorizes the activation of the Charm.
>Her entire body might literally be turned inside out to better allow the demon to rearrange her musculature to convert Appearance into Strength or Dexterity.

Though you have a point on them being in multiple places at once, and so the Third Circle can do multiple Akuma at once. I think? Not entirely sure if using multiple Simple charms at once works with multiple bodies, but I will assume so.


>>50320171
Cool, thanks.

And mainly because there's just /so much/ cool stuff for Infernals.

>>50320462
They're not actually mentioned to be afraid of him. Just that they don't really enter his parts.

It will sort of affect them, but not turn them into the husks it turns mortals and demons into.

>>50320533
Sort of, yes. The things you create with it are made out of glyphs and sentences and such, but will function as normal for whatever physical thing you are making from it.

Also, better wordsmithing skill/experience will make better stuff out of it, as with any craft.

Also also, >>50320599 this, yes.

>>50320654
The text of Investiture of Infernal Glory refers to the Yozi controlling the shaping process. Given that Third Circle Demons don't actually have to obey their parent soul's every command down to the letter, that would imply that it's the Yozi doing the work. I guess it could be that this is a special case that completely overrides the demon's autonomy, though.

>>50320464
Also as we know from Granny Chiyo the poison war was something that Ninja know about and fear so I'm going to assume that aside from Tsunade there aren't many folks that can stop three or four lethal doses of arsenic from finishing the job? Also could I use a poison that naturally occurs in Naruto's world, I mean the emphasis is on actual ninja and they could use natrual animals of here but what can I use from over there?

>>50320601
>>50320642
I was only using the term loosely, I've only heard it in the self-same movie and on the discovery channel once, which is when I found out it was an old term for hydrochloric acid, but that was in a different section of the world I believe. Pressurized back then was like taking a smaller barrel and pushing into a slightly larger barrel which dispersed shit. The two traps are from different places, I believe, but that's not proof or anything so I'll just look into other alternatives.

Maybe hematite powder then, egg powder grenades.

>>50320654
Might want to clarify that it'll hurt them. Right now it reads like the Yozi can just no-sell it completely. Also, does Blossom allow you to eat ghosts and such?

>>50320734
Hematite powder? That's just rust. Are you thinking of something else?

>>50320734
>I'll just look into other alternatives
Might be a good idea as I can't find anything remotely like what you're describing. Ancient Egyptian traps were nowhere near as deadly and elaborate as movies and TV make them out to be. Unless you're going to invoke Chariots of the Gods and claim someone gave this set of Egyptians science and tech centuries, if not millennia, ahead of their time then what you're describing doesn't seem feasible in the least.

>>50320734
Yeah, you can. Tsunade's poison, I guess?
Poison is difficult to apply to weapons and what not iirc. Most kinds have to remain fresh, and have to be introduced into the bloodstream.

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Hey, will there be a Naruto jump update?
Because it's kind of shitty right now.
>No chakra shape manipulation
>No Yin/Yang chakra
>No Senjutsu (sage techniques/nature chakra)
>Mango Eye is mostly wrong with two fanfic features (Kuraokami and Kamimusubi)
>Rinnegan is badly worded/wrong
>Could add a few more features you can find on the wiki.

>>50320734
We know from Chiyo that poisons which kill in like minutes are feared. You need to use the stuff Sasori puts on everything, or that Hanzo breathes, or whatever Sakura was planning to kill Sasuke with

>>50320734
>hematite powder
That's just rust, dude. You may be thinking of thermite, which you can make with iron oxide. It isn't, however, just iron oxide. Also, you wouldn't want to put it in something so fragile as an egg. Hell, you wouldn't want to fuck with it unless you've got a really good delivery system.

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>>50320687
That's fair. The mechanics portion of it does mention the Yozi deciding everything, even though the first part of the charm seems to say it's the demon doing the work...

Might just be an inconsistency. I dunno.

>>50320758
Sure, will do so.

And yes, it does allow you to feed on ghosts just as you can feed off demons and mortals and all. Though they probably have less substance to start with since they're already, well, ghosts.

It won't really let you perma-kill them though. Things in Metagaos tend to get fates worse than death instead and/or be absorbed into it.

>>50320806
>No chakra shape manipulation
>No Yin/Yang chakra
These are just generic parts of jutsu that don't need specific perks for them.

>No Senjutsu (sage techniques/nature chakra)
That's in there. The summoning scroll item lets you learn senjutsu from your summons.

>Mango Eye is mostly wrong with two fanfic features (Kuraokami and Kamimusubi)
You got me there. I'm not too keen on the OC eye powers.

>Rinnegan is badly worded/wrong
Elaborate, please?

>Could add a few more features you can find on the wiki.
What ones would you want?

>>50320806
>Literally just get good at chakra control.
>See above, also no genin would know it.
>Under summoning scroll (and maybe wood release)
>I'll give you that (Non-canon options where for people who wanted some flavour).
>Eh, it's pretty close.
>It's already one of the more comprehensive jumps.

>>50320806
>>No chakra shape manipulation
>>No Yin/Yang chakra
Where would I put this in? They're a basic part of most techniques.
>>No Senjutsu (sage techniques/nature chakra)
You can get it actually. Look at the summoning contract.
>>Mango Eye is mostly wrong with two fanfic features (Kuraokami and Kamimusubi)
How so?
>>Rinnegan is badly worded/wrong
How so?

>>50320845
The Asura Path's big gimmick is making you a magic cyborg.

No clue if he's thinking of anything else, though.

>>50320766
Nope shit can be made into a very fine powder and it will kill those it's used on slowly and painfully... ah crap I can't use that freaking Chosen One. Right back to the drawing board.

>>50320775
Ninja are a bit more recent that that though. That's what I was talking about, basically taking two things I knew about, a pressurization method, and 'salt acid' but the point is moot cause of the above thing. Wound up using the dumb movie term.

>>50320804
Wood lacquer might be good for it if I could find a poison for it.

>>50320832
Ah true that.

>>50320840
See above.

>>50320840
Thermite's not volatile by itself. It has a pretty high ignition temperature, you typically need a special fuse to light it.
>ignition temperature: 3000 F
You can have it in direct contact with wood fire and not have it ignite.

>>50320872
I think he might be talking about the dimensional teleportation and other stuff. Ninjanon has said you could do that, it just isn't in the perk text.

>>50320872
Well, the version the jump offers gives you that, you just have to make your cybernetics yourself. We don't know where Nagato got the tech to put into his Asura Path body, so him having built them and just summoning them instead of manifesting them directly is plausible. It fits with his personal use of the Asura Path, where the cybernetics were additional bits tacked onto his body instead of his own limbs transforming.

>>50320806
>He thinks he needs perks for literally the first fucking thing they teach you.

>>50320806
Also the bad control drawbacks mandatory with Jinchukiri. Naruto was shut at that because early Naruto was a shit ninja. He becomes like the best person ever at control by the end with the whole spreading chakra to literal armies at the same time thing.

>>50320912
There's a decent chance he's just shitposting. Or he's stupid. Not that there is much of a difference.

>>50320961
Nah, that was explicitly because he had too much Chakra. Just shoving a bunch of it to an entire army doesn't require much precision.

>>50320912
But anon, if the physics of each universe is different then that means that each jump has to give you perks to deal with each new facet of each new universe. That's why I grabbed Evercleanse from BodyMod. Who's to say that my tried and true method of wiping my ass will will work across the multiverse? If jump makers are going to be so irresponsible as to not give me perks to wipe my own ass how can I be assured that I'll be able to stay clean?

I am concerned.

>>50318443
Kamen rider chameleon since I had similar powers and belts to other riders

>>50320868
Yin/Yang is anon-elemental nature transformation - basically you git gud at weirder techniques like Nara's shadows, Akamichi's size techniques and Yamanaka's bodysnatching. Yang gives your techniques more physical aspect and Yin gives mental aspect would help with genjutsu

Shape manipulation makes you talented at shape manipulation.

Maybe some people would want to take Senjutsu without Summons, even if it would cost more?

Mango Eye is caused by mental trauma, not by murdering your best friend, check the wiki.

Kuraokami and Kamimusubi - couldn't find those and google didn't help.

Rinnegan is a single power, it's like mango eye pretty much, you can yse some aspects of it together and some you can but they just don't work together well and there's the thing with controlling too many abilities at the same time if you aren't using the trick with multiple bodies, also check the wiki there is more to rinnegan then the six paths.

>>50321033
Yin/Yang manipulation are needed for most jutsu. It's a basic building block. Only a few jutsu are so specialized in it that they're anything more, and the examples you used are available for purchase.

This is also true for shape manipulation. All jutsu, especially ninjutsu, needs shape manipulation.

You cannot get senjutsu without summons. They are necessary, unless you have Wood Release, and Ninjanon said that it's possible for you to learn to do Senjutsu like that if you don't want summons.

Mango eye's restriction is because it's the best thing in the jump.

>>50321033
>Mango Eye is caused by mental trauma, not by murdering your best friend, check the wiki.
It's murdering your best friend. The only person to claim otherwise is Tobirama, who is a huge racist about the Uchiha and can't be trusted to say anything accurate about them. Every Mangekyo we see was gained by watching someone you cared about die. I suppose technically it doesn't have to be by your hand, but it's not just any mental trauma.

>>50320990
No it wasn't like at all. Read the tree walking scene and his talk with Ebsui again. Him having to much chakra isn't the problem, he uses to much chakra to do all his techniques because early Naruto is actually shit. Naruto has no disadvantage at chakra control.

>>50321033
What's anon element like?

>>50321059
>>50321059
>>50321060
From the wiki:
It is initially awakened by the trauma suffered from witnessing the death of someone close to the user. Uchiha have historically misunderstood this criteria as the user needing to be responsible for the person's death, and for that reason they developed the practice of killing their closest friends in order to gain the Mangekyō Sharingan.

>>50321060
Itachi got his from watching Shisui commit suicide not by murdering him.

>>50321066
Late Naruto is pretty shit, too. Kid never actually learns to do the Rasengan right, he always does the shortcut with clones. Closest he comes to properly learning it is using the chakra cloak from Nine Tails Mode to provide the extra hands instead of his clones.

>>50321075
It smells.

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>>50318443
"That annoying asshole"

>>50319074
>The Inner World Perk
Holy Shit! That is fucking awesome.

>Coven
Oh fuck the hell Yes.

>Lunar Mate.
This Pleases Me.

>Tiny Yozi
I want all of them.

>>50321081
Technically Shisui murdered himself so Itachi still seen his best friend murdered

>>50321080
Read my post again.

>>50321059
>Mango eye's restriction is because it's the best thing in the jump.

>>50321081
Yes, I know. I acknowledged that it doesn't have to be by your hand that they die. But it has to be someone you care about dying. It's not just mental trauma, it's specifically friend's death-related trauma.

Hrm looks like Tsunade's poison is the only way I've got, both for the chakra disrupting nature and the knockout effect... very much doubt there'd be enough lying around though.

Out of ideas for now so I will now allow myself to be caught up in the infinitely unpleasant job of trying to figure out what I'm going to do for Aspect Manipulation. Current Ideas are:
1. Leave it alone, only works on hollows and you'll be paying 500 at the least for it with Merging it's more like 900.
2. Note the Aaroniero Arruruerie limitations.

>>50320329
I do recall Rukia using Kido while in Gigai, General Reiryoku and Reiatsu stuf still works and Kaizar in his Gigai could still use some of his goo

>>50321059
Le what. Senju+Wood Release canonically beats the shit out of Mango. And the Rinnegan is vastly superior to both.

>>50321059
>Mango eye's restriction is because it's the best thing in the jump.
What restriction?

>>50321117
Yeah, there is a gigai on offer in the Jump but its a tad expensive for out of origin buyers.

>>50321123
Needing to permanently lose a companion.

>>50321122
>Senju+Wood Release
Madara didn't use most of the Uchiha bullshit we know they can do in that flashback.

>Rinnegan
Technically true, but it does require the Sharingan anyway.

>>50321099
It's not, though? Wood Release and Rinnegan are both better. As is True Jinchuriki.

>>50321099
Best thing is actually Rinnegan.
>Lol all your jutsu are useless. I just no-sell them. Because I absorb the chakra that is used to power your jutsu, it pretty much doesn't matter what your jutsu is. Including mango eye stuff.

>>50321111
Just leave it alone man. The only people who had an issue with it couldn't think of an argument besides interjump balance. When we have jumps that let you bust universes. If you do this, you'll just encourage them to shitpost more.

>>50321096
Oh my god how did I miss the chibi Yozi? That is great. Okay, I have to buy them. And then find a way to use them in an Act of Villainy to taunt the real Yozi with. Probably would be Szoreny's, his is the one to do with taunting. Hell, I bet he's the one who made the chibi Yozi. It's the sort of thing he'd do.

>>50321091
Did you actually read the manga. Naruto by Shippuden does rasengan a one handed. He eventually does Rasenshurikens one handed.

>>50320533
>>50320654
>writ of worlds...
So if I where say a master at writing and a master at forging swords, would the two overlap? Can they even possibly interact at all?

What I'm trying to ask is: does skill in creation of an item/creature translate also into this writing? Would one with a PHD in robotics make a better or add more to the literary machine he is "describing"?

>>50321142
See >>50321139

Also, both Wood Senju and TJ have a cost of 1000 points before any discounts, whereas the mango is technically 'free' on top of the Sharingan's price.

>>50321144
Yes, but that needs Sharingan anyway.

>>50321148
I did, and he doesn't. The only times he does them one-handed is when he has the chakra cloak up. For everything else he uses clones, even when he's in Sage Mode.

>>50321137
So we're restricted to an invisible, semi-hollow form to use our powers?

Can we take physical form as a Hollow by using Final Form to combine the physical and visible aspects of another alt-form?

>>50318443
I've gotten "The General" in some due to using Path to Victory from Worm to obscene use. In XCOM I got the title, "The Football" because by the time I did it I had gone through so many jumps that I could go into a base and leave nothing but atomized aliens in my wake.

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>>50321147
Could always be Ted, he's weird like that.
I'mma gonna make tiny-malfias dance.

>>50321167
Sure.

>>50321145
Option one it is then.

>>50321096
>>50321147
Reminder that imouto spheres are the best chibi.

>>50321161
Mango eye needs Sharingan too. And Rinnegan does not need Mango Eye

Also Mango eye is complete shit if you actually need to permanentl ykill a companion for it. It's just not worth it.
It's a usefull tool but only that. the best sharing an stuff is Izanagi, which you don't need Mango Eye for.

>>50321139
>Madara didn't use most of the Uchiha bullshit we know they can do in that flashback.
He used it to mind control the fucking Kyuubi and wrap it in giant perfect Susanoo armor.

And this was the true, full power Kyuubi. Not the shitty half-version that Naruto had that could still vaporise mountain ranges from a continent away and overpower every other Tailed Beast at once.

And Wood Release still fucked up all that shit.

>>50321189
How is limiting it to Hollows only 'leaving it alone'? That's a massive downgrade, and makes it useless outside of Bleach.

>>50321212
Wood Release is just a hard counter to Tailed Beasts. It seems to be/be just like the Shinju's wood, which has a powerful chakra draining and binding nature. When up against a being that's pure chakra, that's like salt on a snail.

>>50321162
4th war Naruto was doing it one handed.

>>50321137
What's the point of a Gigai for a jumper anyway? Can't they just shift to another alt-form?

>>50321207
Then why did people still pick mango eyes despite the drawback and the stigma around being an Uchiha?

Going Uchiha is one of the most commonly mocked builds.

Who has the claim for the gamer, if anyone? Last I heard, the Reddit/sb version was defunct.

>>50321111
Narrow the scope of the perk. As written it's a One True Build perk. Limit it in scope so that it works as it does in canon, but doesn't give you a free pass to every other system you encounter.

>>50321193
>Chibi Kimbery just likes playing with dolls and going to the aquarium instead of being a pervert.

>>50321235
Yes, and he had the chakra cloak on at all times that he did it one-handed during that arc. Like I said, he can use the cloak to substitute for the extra hands.

>>50321212
That's because the Hashmaster was a demigod at the time more then anything.

>>50321259
Your janitor duties are on the weekend, right? I notice that you get banned during the week but are untouchable over the weekend.

>>50321234
Yeah, but he also fucking destroyed Madara at the same time. And this was after Madara got the Eternal Mangos.

I think Ninjanon should just give the option to pay for Mangos. As it is now, only Edgelords take it, and they have absolutely no problem with having to see a loved one die, so it doesn't cost the only people who take it anything but bars everyone else from doing so.

>>50321261
Chibi Sacheverell tires out easily and just wants to cuddle up with you and sleep.

>>50321111
i think it should work on hollows but since there isn't justification for it working on anything else, or everything else rather, you should limit it to hollow and hollow like entities.

>>50321263
Nope. Even when he didn't he was able to go one handed. You can see it when he does the rasengan barrage.

>>50321264
Well if Hashi got his Sage juice, Madara got his too, right?

>>50321111
Needs more Hollows.

>>50321272
Chibi Adorjan is clingy and likes hugs.

>>50321213
Well that's the reason someone would need Merging for it, those two powers together are what make Aaroniero's gimmick. Basically to cover all things you'll need both, just like how Aaroniero needed both in canon.

>>50321240
Mass produceable bodies, with the latest chapter its been found out that Yata can and will do so.

>>50321283
I'd add that last part but I have no idea what Hollow-Like would cover. Demons? Oni?

>>50321290
Don't we all.

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>>50321096
Glad you like it. The inner world thing is still one of my favorite parts of Infernals, and I just couldn't resist the tiny Yozi after people brought up the idea.

>>50321147
...It does seem like something Szoreny might do, yes.

>>50321158
They wouldn't directly translate, but they /would/ help and overlap a bit.

To use your example, someone with a PhD in robotics would be able to describe a machine more accurately and more detailed, and so would be able to get a greater resulting literary machine than someone who doesn't have that knowledge and experience.

>>50321193
Tiny Hegra is good too. And tiny Ebby is hilarious.

>>50321261
>Chibi Adorjan just giggles and zooms around like a hyperactive kid, instead of murdering everything she touches.

>>50321283
There's justification for Shinigami, right?

>>50321189
Thanks, limiting it to hollows was the right move. Thanks for listening to the thread.

>>50321270
He asked when he made the jump. People preferred the drawback to paying an addition 400 points or whatever.

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>>50321287
What are you talking about? He's got the cloak on at that point.

>>50321288
That probably helped counter not having the giant mountain exploding monster under him but Hashirama definitely got weaker after his zombification.

>>50321307
I just don't see why you couldn't have both as an option. More choices are better, right?

>>50321250
Mango eye is shit because it's only gained through losing a companion. It could be an undiscounted 400/600 CP or losing a companion so that people could have a choice about it. But there is no choice.

>>50321296
Yeah, demons, oni, purely spiritual beings and the like. Probably ghosts too I imaging. Makes it a good ability for dealing with those groups.

>>50321254
The Reddit version is defunct. The SB version is currently WIP.

>>50321296
Don't see a reason to limit it. Not like anyone deals with ghosts even remotely often.

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>>50321313
I dunno, mang. He could still pull this kind of shit with ease.

>>50321296
I'm still not okay with it working on anything and everything, even given the steep paywall. Why not drop the merging and keep it for hollows only?

>>50321270
>>50321320
Doesn't have to be a companion, just a loved one.

Also if you follow the anime continuity the Rinnegan requires the Mango, which means you can get the mango without a loved one dying by taking the Rinnegan.

Though presumably this just means your origin self will have watched a loved one die before the jump starts so this may not be the best solution.

>>50321346
Only reply once.

>>50321296
Why not just "spiritual beings". That way no one's using it to eat Scion or anything. Plus, you have to actually overpower and defeat them.

This is why I don't do the whole crowd-sourced jumpmaking thing.

>>50321296
Angels demons and other immaterial beings that can manifest in some way. It'd be goat for 40k demons and high end psionic busting.

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Hey, if ninjanon is still around, can you learn Senjutsu without summons if you have Wood Release?

>>50321357
>Also if you follow the anime continuity the Rinnegan requires the Mango, which means you can get the mango without a loved one dying by taking the Rinnegan.
Pretty sure Ninjanon ruled it doesn't work that way.

>>50321371
Pretty sure anybody can learn Senjutsu if you can convince somebody to teach you.

>>50321359
That's a pretty good way of wording it.

>>50321296
What do you think about the above?

>>50321371
He's said so before when asked.

>>50321296
Out of curiosity, what exactly is your reasoning for limiting it? Yesterday people were just calling you a powerwanker and saying that other jumps didn't offer things that strong. Was that really it, or did I miss something and someone offered a compelling argument?

>>50321296
If it worked on Stands and Personas that'd be sweet.

>>50321397
Thanks.

>>50321371
How would wood release help you learn senjutsu?

>>50321312
Not when he does it against the Kyuubi or Madara's deep forest emergence.

>>50321412
The first hokaga was capable of using his trees to gather nature chakra and enter sage mode using them. No animals involved.

>>50321296
We don't have a whole lot that specifically counters demons and such, so having this do that would be nice.

>>50321324
I'll take that under consideration.

>>50321339
Because it's the canon limits of the power?

>>50321346
The paywall is a fairly solid deterent in my opinion.

>>50321359
The canon limit was Hollows. I'll note this spreds out after the jump to Demons/oni/evil spirits/etc. Heck the limit for the merging + Aspect Manifestaoin is spiritual beings.

>>50321366
With both you'll have it be spiritual beings, which is most of those things I think.

>>50321403
Went back and looked at the the power, it has a limit built in but merging bypasses that limit. I'm just updating the power so it follows the canon rules.

>>50321409
If you have both it should I believe work.

>>50321423
>The canon limit was Hollows.
I thought this was the guy that ate Rukia's boyfriend?

>>50321423
How would it work in hybrid beings like Eva angels? They're spiritual and physical so would it work at reduced capacity or not at all?

>>50321423
Can I have my unique ability simply be having a ton of spiritual power or a fast growth for spiritual power?

>>50321422
We actually don't know how he got safe mode. For all we know Hashmaster has a scroll of butterfly summoning or something because he's the hippykage.

>>50321413
When he does it against Madara he uses clones, as he hasn't reactivated Nine Tails Mode yet. Same with the fight against Kurama inside the seal. Naruto needs clones or chakra cloaks to do the rasengan, this is consistent throughout the series.

>>50321423
Thank you for listening. I don't like it when jumps go the way of one true builds.

>>50321462
When he does it against Madara all the clones form giant rasengan on their own, furthermore in the last movie he tosses one handed Rasenshurikens at the puppets trying to kidnap Hinata.

>>50321423
If you had Unique Power and linked it to Aspect Manifestation, could you branch out and affect material beings?

>>50321457
We don't now HOW he got it, but we know that your sage mode borrows from who you learned it from.

Hash gets black markings under his eyes and the dot thing on his forehead. No animal theme.

>>50321435
>I thought this was the guy that ate Rukia's boyfriend?
Nah Aaroniero ate the guy who merged with Kaien Shiba. Giveing him the power to bypass his old limit of Hollows only.

>>50321452
No idea. I'll have to think on it.

>>50321453
Nope, only because recursive loops of more power would happen.

>>50321463
Didn't mean to make it look as such. I actually thought more people would be going after the really solid combo of Enhancing Speed and High Speed Regeneration.

>>50321509
Naruto got random eye shadow. Maybe Hashi's teachers had normal pupils.

>>50321331
But aren't those the same jump? How can one be WIP?

>>50321525
Naruto gets frog eyes.

>>50321507
Nope it would just make it so your Aspect Manifestion would grow in complexity within the realm that it rules are set. In other words you'd gain new things to call Aspects but still be stuck with Spiritual Beings.

>>50321457
>Uses trees to gather chakra instead of a frog or whatever
>wonder how he got it

>>50321533
Yeah. Maybe Hash had mammals or eyeless things teach him so it doesn't show. We don't know his sage mode comes from trees.

>>50321514
I was going for Enhancing Speed and that power that lets you eat energy attacks. Don't take one persons word as the opinion of the whole thread.

>>50321502
Oh, I thought you were talking about when he's just gotten back from gaining the Asura power and cuts down Madara's Shinju copy. You're talking about earlier, in which case he had his chakra cloak up. He has a chakra cloak up at every point in the series in which he does a rasengan one-handed. He might have done them one-handed in The Last, I admit to not remembering, but that's two years after the end of the series and it's conceivable that he's finally gotten the chance to learn to do them right. During the series proper, though, he has to cheat every time.

>>50321551
Enhancing Speed and Cero Feast is the shit I'll agree.

>>50321536
New things to call Aspects? Like what?

>>50321502
Also he bitchslaps Sauce with one in their fight.

>>50321539
>>50321550
Probaly he can do it without trees, he just learned to sense natural energy through the trees.

>>50318443
In Creepypasta I was called the Dealer or the Red Man. I was basically a supernatural business man who basically made Faustian deals with people.

Eventually I acquired 4chan as part of a bargain with Moot and took the username The Owner. I spent the rest of the jump making deals and hinting The Owner and The Red Man were the same being. /X/ fucking loved it, although /pol/ memed that the board belonged to an illegal alien and shitposted about it all the time. I think secretly they loved it as much as /x/ did.

>>50321527
They aren't.

>>50321587
But, the one on Reddit was made by sb. I'm confused.

>>50321568
Don't know memories, styles, and body language are all covered so maybe something like your spiritual pressure type shifting to fool people. Unique Powers are firmly in the fanwank area, the upper limit should be around Bankai levels but other than that. /shrug

>>50321137
You missed the point. Which is it technically means those powers would be accessible in other forms to a degree

>>50321556
Okay, I checked the scene in The Last. The rasenshurikens he throws against the puppets have the golden color of a chakra cloak-enhanced jutsu. So presumably he didn't learn to do the rasengan one handed, he just learned control over the chakra cloak enough that he can use it subtly without having to make his whole body glow. Just focus it into his hand, or something like that. So while I don't think he ever learned to do the rasengan properly, it's still an impressive feat of chakra control to focus the cloak like that. Arguably more useful than just mastering the rasengan, he could enhance any technique this way.

>>50321601
The reddit guy cross-posted it to SB in the past, but doesn't participate in their threads and seems to have gone entirely missing. SB has a home-grown version in progress now.

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>>50321623
Oh yeah I did miss that point. Well I fell like pic related. I'll note that then.

>>50321423
Aaraniero ate that Hollow that merged with Shinigami

>>50321631
All of Naruto's chakra is orange. It comes up in the Neji fight. Everyone has different chakra colors it's just the anime is shit so they never show that. Last got it right.

>>50321652
Oh, new version. That makes sense. Who is it by, and is it completely shit?

>>50321652
>SB
>Gamer jump
I'm sure it will be completely balanced, will not be an empty power grab, and will not have two empty trees propping up one massively over powered tree that's obviously what you're supposed to build for.

>>50321679
Yeah as I said here >>50321514

>>50321514
>I actually thought more people would be going after the really solid combo of Enhancing Speed and High Speed Regeneration.
What, just run until you break down while continuously regenerating? Hm, not bad.

Though personally I'm gonna go with 3xInvisibility+Unique Power!Summoning Mindless Lesser Hollows+maybe High Speed Regeneration.

And some of the less expensive stuff like Bizarre Biology and Biological Attacks. Though I'm not sure what to actually base my bizarre biology on yet...

>>50321687
No, he uses regular rasengans in The Last and they're blue. It's only the rasengans he uses in Nine-Tails Mode that are gold-orange. So if that rasenshuriken was gold-orange, then it must have been enhanced by the cloak.

>>50321514
>I actually thought more people would be going after the really solid combo of Enhancing Speed and High Speed Regeneration.
Nah, that's available in some form in how many other jumps? The Merge combo is fairly unique and incredibly powerful, so of course most munchkins are going to go for it.

>>50321514
I'm surprised no one's going for Barrigan's ability.

>>50321514
Kay. So since adding merge into the mix upgrades Aspect Manifestation, you'd only need to link Unique Power to AM to get the scaling power of the people you'd consume, correct?

>>50321716
I just bought Unique Power a bunch. I might have overdone it anyway, but the fact that it's supposed to scale with my power as a Hollow (for good and ill) made me comfortable about actually making something I liked instead of focusing entirely on it being "balanced"

>>50321734
Now I want a Munchkins jump. I don't know how, but I want to live that card game dammit!

>>50321764
It's not there tho?

>>50321705
If we tried to not butterfly anything and remained in almost complete secret, is Aizen's knowledge of us even further limited if we take Look on your faces?

Either way is he aware of our uncapped powers or up to the cap?

>>50321764
It does nothing against people with Eternal Youth/Immortality, which comprises a lot of powerful people in the chain. In Bleach it's pretty good, since almost every ages, just pretty slowly, outside of Bleach it isn't great.

>>50321778
Only if there's a Table Top scenario and infinitely punching Will Wheaton with infinity punches isn't a fail condition.

>>50321264
Hilariously enough, it actually costs less to build Hashirama then Madara.

>>50321694
Cthulhu. I've not been keeping a close watch on it, honestly- I'm not a fan of The Gamer series in general, so I can't give a detailed analysis. What I have seen looks more polished than the last one, at least.

>>50321700
Actually, it's got aspects of the Gamer ability split up across the four standard origins as their 600cp perks, with a 300cp unorthodox origin with no perk tree of its own but discounts on the Gamer perks. You'd need to pay 1500cp minimum if you want the entire thing, and would be getting nothing else. If you're only interested in part of it, it's more efficient to take one of the standard origins and get their other abilities too. Your specific complaint isn't applicable.

>>50321716
>What, just run until you break down while continuously regenerating? Hm, not bad.
Or just stand still and speed up to the point that your healling faster than damage happens, but that would be exhausting on the spiritual energy.

>Prosepective Build
Damn that looks good. Just gonna hide out eh? Let the lesser hollows of doom bury your foes in cero blasts. Either that or you're going for that one thing that I mentioned that one time.

>>50321734
Ah cool beans.

>>50321764
IKR?

>>50321766
The combo isn't effected. AM makes it so it grows more complex... somehow. As for Merging, I have no idea what it'd do when becoming a Unique Power.

>>50321792
His foreknowledge can be as vauge as what he knew about Marr. Fucking ridiculously high powered Hollow thataway, too tough to kill, too strong to fight, run the fuck away. Basically, with Look on your faces, Aizen has Bardic Knowledge and has been taking tens for a long fucking time he's got what the general knowledge is about you.

Up to the cap.

>>50321798
I mean, if you use it more intelligently than Mr. "I AM AN INVINCIBLE GOD". It can No-Sell a shit-ton of stuff, including most energy attacks. So it's pretty effective anti-magic.

And you can easily become immune to it, yourself.

>>50321856
I think you misunderstood. Linking Aspect Manifestation to Unique Power makes it so that abilities you consume scale to your spiritual ability. If you add in Merging on top of that, does everything consumed scale, or just hollows/evil spirits?

>>50321856
Wait, this Marr guy made Aizen give a "note-to-self: Flee On Fucking Site"?

>>50321849
>Your specific complaint isn't applicable.
We'll see. SB has a very poor track record with jumps of powerful settings or settings with powerful characters. The only one that's remotely balanced is Overlord (The Series). Although I'll grant you that Overlord is a fantastic example of in jump balance. To counterbalance against that, though, you've got how many horribly unbalanced power grabs that are vehemently defended by the userbase?[

So while my complaint may not be valid, my skepticism and cynicism are./spoiler]

>>50321849
That actually sounds like a good way of handling it. Got a link?

>>50321895
Ah. Just Hollows/Evil Spirits.

>>50321897
Not that's just what everyone was saying so that's what he knew. He was very careful though and that says things. Also Marr shat on Aizen latter on but that's neither here nor there...

>>50321719
Still used it one handed at the second VOTE fight. Besides my point was Narutos shit control has nothing to do with being a jinchukiri.

>>50320064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_2q0Mm__sA

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>>50321856
>Damn that looks good. Just gonna hide out eh? Let the lesser hollows of doom bury your foes in cero blasts.
Pretty much, yeah.

>Either that or you're going for that one thing that I mentioned that one time.
pic related.

>>50321930
So if we take Look On Your Faces, we'll be able to fuck up Aizen if we can get around any precautions and avoid his Shikai?

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>>50321955
Indeed!

>>50321963
Yeah but he's going to be insanely hard since he's had time. Aizen is like evil batman in that way.

Captcha of a Russian sign and a Spanish stop sign. Wow captcha get's around.

If I wanted to be immune to Genjutsu but can't fit the relevant perk into my build what out of jump perks would serve as a replacement?

>>50321930
Shit, really? No offense man, but I think you went a bit to far in the other direction when balancing Aspect Manifestation. The abilities of people who you consume are stuck at the level they were when you already beat them. If you have to spend 800 cp and all of your points in the supplement to make it scale, then it kind of is inferior to just grabbing Enhanced Speed and High Speed-Regeneration or the Nano-Hollows.

Not to mention, if Merging is a kind of possession, it doesn't really make sense that you would need to link unique power to it to make your consumption abilities scale.

>>50321915
I'm not going to post it when Cthulhu isn't here to take criticism. That's just asking for a double shitstorm.

If you're really interested, work started a little over a week ago, and as such shouldn't be too hard to find in the SB jumpchain thread. Please take any discussion there.

>>50322005
Illusion reducers are fairly rare. Funnily enough Electromaster from Index/Railgun has something for that, you control your own nerve impulses and can fuck with them to keep other people from fucking with them which is so much bullshit.

>>50322016
Hm you bring up a good point. Okay then the thing you were thinking of then.

True on that latter point as well. As I said Unique Power consumption is just getting better energy per bite.

Look. Guy bitching about the Naruto jump?

You start as a genin.

Fucking. Study. And get to book-learnin'.

>>50322005
Many Genjutsus do their thing via different methods (e.g. frog's toxins or manipulating internal chemistry) so you'll want a variety of out-of-jump perks. I'd say for a good catch-all, perks and abilities that let you control your body's flesh and things like the nervous system. What >>50322072 said here with Electromaster would be pretty decent against genjutsus like Itachi's.

>>50321371
I love those statues flipping each other off.

>>50319074
As someone who doesn't know too much about Exalted, could you put a page before the Yozi perks saying which primordial is which?
Like, I know Malfeas is "explosions and no subtlety" but I always forget the others.

>>50322056
>Drop in perk tree
...

SO. MUCH. MONEY.

>>50322246
I'm pretty sure that's the intent, given the [CASTE AND FAVORED YOZI] placeholder note.

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>>50322246
No worries, I'm planning to have that stuff in there. Just need to write it first.

Though I was thinking of putting their descriptions either before or after the Origin selections instead, so you can pick the two Yozi you want as your Caste and Favored Yozis first (which are the two that you get discounts on).

>>50322072
>>50322091
Would Incomprehensible from YJ prevent Genjutsu from working on me?

>>50322260
Trying to find it, but the search system is annoying on mobile. Which thread page is it on?

>>50321301
Alright I'm going to need to see the drawbacks so I know what I have to do in order to afford all of the chibi Yozi and everything else.

>>50322406
1045

>>50322466
Appreciate it.

>>50318641
Matrix and Lovecraft both have what you're looking for.
They're true multitasking perks, unlike Memory Partition.
Memory Partition makes it so you can focus on the numerous 'parts' of a single 'problem'. Like micromanaging an army, or cooking the perfect turkey.

The ones in Lovecraft and Matrix let you focus on 12 and 10 things at once, respectively. Juggle while riding a unicycle, while multiplying Pi by itself, while singing the national anthem, while reading a book.

If you took all three and some superintelligence and dexterity perks, you could probably wreck Number Man.

>>50322466
Oh man, "Acting Like A Fool" is maybe a little overpriced, but I love it.

Other than that, nothing really blows me away. Why is everyone so shy about the gamer powers? We already have stuff that does most of that.

>>50322323
questions:
the way Purest Vitriol is phrased it accumulates weekly If you do not use it,is this correct?

does Writ of Worlds require use of a specific language? You items you make of it gain the benefits of magical languages you Write them in?

does Perfected Calligraphy apply to magical languages?

Metal Trees works on supermaterials from creation right?


questions about Spine of Isidoros specifically
1. you can not use it for sympathetic magic right?
2. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Wouldn't it be blackhole matter?

>>50322445
Well, I haven't written them all out quite yet. But for now I have:

>Compulsion to act like a saturday morning cartoon villain
>You get an Urge you hate, and trigger-happy Torment to enforce it
>Really shitty Coadjutator, who is impossible to ignore
>Got a really bad aspect from your coadjutator demon, like a deformed gorilla-like build or barbed stingers instead of select body parts.
>You generate omen weather in Creation
>The yozis consider you a heretic and will try their level best to murder the hell out of you.
>Mortal. nuff said.
>You're an Akuma instead. Hope you didn't need that free will thing.
>You're at the forefront of the Reclamation in Return of the Scarlet Empress style, and need to make sure it succeeds in releasing at /least/ one Yozi
>The whole reclamation effort is buffed to be able to succeed in breaking them out within your 10 years time, but if any Yozi is free at the end of the decade, you lose.

>>50322540
I think it's the whole 'has all of them at the same time' part. Also sharing.

Also, just for the hell of it, if you check the index listy thing, Cthulhu made a list of perks on 'how to be the gamer'.

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>>50322554
>the way Purest Vitriol is phrased it accumulates weekly If you do not use it,is this correct?
That is correct. Mostly to allow you to let it accumulate for a while if you want to baptise a warstrider/mecha or something.

>does Writ of Worlds require use of a specific language?
No. Any and all languages work.

>You items you make of it gain the benefits of magical languages you Write them in?
Only if something written would normally get benefits of that language.

Like, if you write something in Elder Scrolls Thu'um runes it wouldn't do much aside from maybe let people learn them, but written Corresponce from Fallen London would still heat up and do its thing.

>does Perfected Calligraphy apply to magical languages?
Sure?

>Metal Trees works on supermaterials from creation right?
Nope, sorry. You gotta grab Charms to make the Magical Materials, or the Seeds of Potential item.


>1. you can not use it for sympathetic magic right?
Probably not really. It's kind of transformed into something else now.

>2. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Wouldn't it be blackhole matter?
Kinda. Though magic (and Isidoros not giving a shit) means it's not quite that heavy or space-distorting. But yeah, pretty fucking dense stuff.

>>50319959
Well, I was invited to join the Human Instrumentality Project/SEELE due to having Tinker level knowledge of Medicine and Biology, as well as the entire Technician perk tree. I accepted only to infiltrate the organization and keep an eye on it from the inside.

>>50321963

You see, Aizen's shikai isn't the biggest problem. Because the quest actually shown his Bankai and its ability.

And Bankai doesn't have a release command so you can't just avert your eyes when you hear him releasing it like Shikai. Any time he says Bankai in regular conversation could be him releasing it

Has anyone claimed a Beowulf or Grendle jump yet? I'm considering taking a stab at it.

>>50323009
Nope. What would the backgrounds be though? You'd have one for Beowulf, you'd have one for Grendle and his mother, and maybe one for the dragon, but still leaves one more.

>>50319959
Jumpers that have a post-spark wish, what will you do with it?

>>50323030
Generic warrior?

>>50323048
Eh, that works.

>>50323030
I'm thinking Drop-In would be Beowulf, a monster background for Grendle, and maybe a villager/Dane citizen perk tree. A dragon background might work, but it'll take a bit of working.

>>50323115
That makes sense to me. Go for it, anon.

>>50323040
Uncap my Path to Victory ability. No thinker headaches.

Then use PtV to get whatever I want.

>>50319959
As a result of a few perks, every jump I find myself a member of numerous organizations - for one, World Council in Anno 2070 - in which post-jump as long as I lead a strong-enough faction I'm invited to join an Illuminati-esque council and obtain votes for shit; Godfather (while being a member of the FBI) in Mob, which means I lead a large peacekeeping faction every jump as a result of my efforts there; and I want to say I have a perk that ensures I'm a member of royalty in every origin thereafter but for the life of me I can't seem to find it, I may just be hallucinating it's existence.

Regardless - Yes. Those two and a few companions who were imported as Illuminati in Gargoyles ensure I am ALWAYS yanked into some conspiracy or another.

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>>50322559
>Cartoon Villain
YES!

>Bad Aspect from Coadjutator
Annoying, but I can take it

>Omen Weather
See Above

>Heretic, Mortal, and Akuma
Jesus Christ Why.

>RotSE
Well, it's hard to do worse than 'canon' RotSE. Almost anyone is better than Ted.

>Buffed Reclamation
Oh My. This is completely batshit insane, but it sounds like a challenge for JUSTICE!

>>50323040
Bring other people into the chain. Basically, everyone. And then occasionally troll them as their sponsor, while otherwise making sure they come up with a good story.

Jump 206: Infinity
>Three of Swords (Sorrow), reversed: Not letting yourself be dragged by your emotions into a negative situation.
>Age: 22
>Faction: Drop-In
I hate politics.
>Identity: Scientist
>Engineer (Free, Scientist)
Well, understanding how things work in this universe is definitely important.
>Metachemistry (900, Scientist)
Cybernetics? Oh, I'll be taking that.
>Generic Modification (700, Scientist)
Gene mods? I will certainly be taking that.
>Intriguing Specimens (300, Scientist)
Reverse engineer literally anything that does not outright break the local laws of physics? I will DEFINITELY be taking THAT.
>Army List (0)
So... I'm importing my companions as hackers. All of them. Anyone who comes up against us and is reliant on any form of technology that can be hacked is going to have a very bad day, and I am pretty sure that would include everyone.

But I don't know enough about Infinity to expound further, and quite frankly I haven't the interest. Moving right along!

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>>50323239
>Jesus Christ Why.
Because POINTS and also Akuma gets one small concession (if you pick a Yozi with a locked charmset to become an Akuma of, then you get that charmset unlocked automatically after the jump)

>Well, it's hard to do worse than 'canon' RotSE. Almost anyone is better than Ted.
True.
>Oh My. This is completely batshit insane, but it sounds like a challenge for JUSTICE!
Yup. And it gets even more batshit if you take /both/ of those last two.

Have to make sure they succeed in getting out, and /then/ beat them back inside. Within 10 years.

>>50322091
Depends on what Itachi's doing really. If he's fucking with your movements then yeah but he also can just completly take over all sensory input like he did to Sasuk in their fight. Itachi is kind of bullshit like that.

>>50321235
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID

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spot the jumper

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>>50323420

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>>50323305
>you take /both/ of those last two.
>Have to make sure they succeed in getting out, and /then/ beat them back inside. Within 10 years.
Kind of want to do this.
Might even let Ted out, because fuck that guy.

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>>50323432

>>50322978
His Bankai is just his Shikai but way easier snd faster?

Does it only work through visual sight? Can I just blind myself and fight with the Force or something?

>>50323040
Use one or them to grant most of the thread their own chains. Then the other to give the shitposter an unending eternity of personalized suffering.

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>>50323444
>Kind of want to do this.
>Might even let Ted out, because fuck that guy.
Giving him a taste of freedom just to slap him right back down does sound appropriate.

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>>50323501
My thoughts exactly. Also I just want an excuse to beat the shit out of him.

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>>50323455

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>>50323432
tech spec jumper
>>50323455
Jumper in realistic setting
>>50323610
Jumper shenanigans

imaginary friend jump

>>50323532
Perfectly understandable.

Also, question. Does this read alright?

Heart and Soul [300]
All Yozi have a fetich-heart, a demon of the Third Circle who acts as the defining soul of their being, more powerful and important than any of their other souls. If these should ever be slain, their Yozi progenitor would find themselves remade. As an Infernal possessing of a soul of you own, you would normally be above such weaknesses.
Yet this situation also grants advantages, and so you may now invest a greater measure of your might into one of your externalized demon souls. This will make them terrifyingly more powerful than most Third Circle Demons and able to channel your own full power for a short time, if you permit them to. Take care though, for if they call on your might too often without taking time to rest, they shall destroy themselves. Unlike the Yozi, the death of your heart soul does not mean your identity is completely remade, as you still have your original soul, though the experience will be extremely painful.
Should you have Descending Hierarchy in addition to this perk, and later learn The Path of a Thousand Whispers, then you may empower two of your souls in this way. Just as the King of Primordials, The Empyreal Chaos, was once flanked by his twin Fetich Souls, so too shall you be flanked by your own.

>>50323640
Oh my. All of my want. There are two many awesome things you're putting into this jump, Mardukth.

>>50318443
My squadmates in Strike Witches called me "Arkie" on account of being from Arkansas, or sometimes "Shopkeep" because of my being Logistics Officer.
John Hammond called me Showtime, The Singing and Dancing Raptor. No one believed the last part, but they took Showtime and ran with it.
A combination of my name and using masculine pronouns despite being a female amnesiac got my classmates to dub me "Dokkun".
Most often, especially where I'm in any sort of command of any sort of ship, I'm "Captain"

>>50319077
Hime was mostly just excited to be able to see the way the rest of us do. Shirshu don't have eyes, so the world of light, dark, and color was completely new to her. She still spends most of her time as a Shirshu, but goes human or plushie when it's more convenient for her.
>>50318423
Hey Thread. Was I hallucinating when I saw a Perk in a recent Jump (a week at most) that gives a mini-sized altform?

>>50323670
>mini sized alt-form
that would be one of my jumps: Chibi-Robo!

>>50319074
As someone who has taken enough houses and warehouse add-ons to become an multidimensional real estate mogul the sheer volume of Manses is getting my dick hard

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>>50323640
I love you Mardukth. Now I need to think up Kickass titles for the twin Heart Souls of Justice!.
Obviously each one needs to represent one of my twin concepts.
One for LOVE, and one for JUSTICE.

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>>50323664
>>50323696
I'll take that to mean the perk is good as written then. Excellent.

Good luck with your kickass titles, Justice. Those are always fun to think up.

>>50323693
...Okay.

Manses are cool, and basing them on Yozi themes means there's lots of different options for everyone.

So Race Pieces from NGNL, is there any point to buying it and attempting to collect all of them?

>>50323693
Have you ever heard of the phrase "Too much information"?

>>50323755
You've put me in a bit of a bind, Mardukth. Because I want Infernals to be my first major source of supernatural power, so I can use its themes to base all my future magic on since they're so cool. But, I also want everything in the jump, so I'd need to take all the really hard drawbacks, which I won't be able to survive without having a lot of supernatural power in the first place. What should I do? Maybe go to jumps that powerful but really generic sources of magic, so I don't become themed to anything non-Infernal by the time I get there?

>>50323755
The problem is, I'm bad with names.

>>50323683
Awesome. I know where I'm going next!

>>50323850
Well, the first one that comes to mind, given that you posted a picture labeled "Ein Sof", is to have the twin souls be named after the sephirahs of Gevurah and Chesed, Hebrew for Justice and Love. Well, actually it's more like "strength to carry out judgement" and "adoration of the universe", but close enough.

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First version of the custom constellation table is complete. Tell me what you all think!

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>>50323815
Not quite sure what to tell you...

The plan with powerful but generic sources of magic/supernatural power seems like it could work?

Atleast there'll be plenty of drawbacks around.

Also, thanks.

>>50323850
Fair enough.

Not too great at them either, but I find thinking of them with title and all to be fun.

>>50323959
I'm really looking forward to what that akuma drawback looks like. Part of me was hoping for one.

>>50323959
It's alright. I wasn't really asking for a suggestion, just griping about how I don't have unlimited CP and can't have everything I ever want. You know, typical Jumper World Problems. Just ignore me.

>>50323466
Ahahaha.

No. His Bankai seems like it can serve as a way to put you under illusion but that's not the Bankai special ability.

>"Now let me tell you about zanpakuto and NOT those fakes your filthy kin is using!
The true form of a zanakuto is the bankai. But much like our true potential not everyone is capable of attaining it.
In contrast to that the shikai is a mere fragment of the bankai."

Your eyes go wild.

"That's it you dumb animal! You figured it out!
The illusions of my Kyoka Suigetsu are so real they might as well be reality.
But my Hoshū Sakkakus illusions ARE REALITY!"

In that moment a rather large stone crucifix grows out of the ground and impales you with a pair of stone serpents that slither in and out of your body, leaving rather nasty wounds.
The serpents alongside several nails, thorns and chains then bind you to the stone slab.

He cant directly change or modify or such something alive or organic but creating something to stab the fuck out of alive or organic thing, yes.

Mind you, this was preceded by

""Never mind! I've had ENOUGH!
YOU MAGGOTS! KEEP INTERRUPTING ME! ALL THOSE YEARS OF CAREFUL PLANNING ARE RUINED BECAUSE OF YOU WORTHLESS HOLLOW SCUM! THAT'S IT, EVERYONE DIES!
BANKAI! Hoshū Sakkaku!""

>>50323968
Might be there in next week's wip, depending on whether I get more inspiration for Drawbacks or Manses.

Also, why would you want that?

>>50323950
Looks good, Skull Slime.

>>50324065
Nice

>spoiler
because I am made entirely of bad decisions.

>>50323670
>Showtime, The Singing and Dancing Raptor
Please tell me you pulled a Michigan J. Frog.

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How much charisma do you need to talk down and maybe waifu the moon bunny?

>>50324121
Her wide eyed, shocked reaction gets me every time. I wonder what Black Zetsu's reaction was.

>>50324150
He's very embarrassed by his mom, sometimes.

>>50324121
>Kakashi's 'what'
>Sasuke's 'why did I just play a part in that'
>and just Sakura

>>50324121
Stuff like this is why I love surprise perks and perks that make it so people never expect whats coming next.

Shock and Awe!

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>>50321719
>blue
All the rasengans in last are orange. Also Naruto's chakra after he got the cloak drained off is orange. He can do one handed rasengans and rasenshurikens. Dude's got tons of control.

>>50324245
He uses a blue one when fighting the puppets the first time. Presumably the orange ones were the result of him realizing that his standard ones wouldn't cut it and deciding to enhance them, since all of those scenes you're taking shots of are after that fight.

>>50324114
Oh yeah.

>>50324121
Naruto has gotten weird.

>>50324121
Something to make her listen to you instead of murdering you as hard as she could would be a good start.