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Pathfinder General /pfg/

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Hidden Agenda Edition
Tell us the REAL "real" reason you made your character as you did

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing

Old thread: >>50300090
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>>50309429
... Because i like to play girl characters? I dunno.
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>>50309429
All of my characters don't give a fuck what people think about them. I wish I could say the same about myself.
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>>50309429
Because sometimes you just want to let your inner edgelord out.
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If I wanted to make a Monk (or anyone who has a similar fighting style) and be a good combatant how would I do this? Rules are
20pb
Level 1
Any race, but there will be consequences if you choose Orc and expect to rent a room at an inn or something
Low fantasy type game, no wizards or sorcerers and such, a bloodrager or that one fighter archetype are OK though, as long as you can explain how
Start with max gold for class
"Basic" equipment (armor and weapons) are free, any enhancements are not (masterwork, shark skin grip, etc)
Guns are rather common, they are 5% of the listed cost and simple weapons, no misfires, reload time is decreased by one step and advanced are the standard. There have been hints of stuff like bolt actions and semi auto pistols and such being built in a far away land (super rare, like magic items)
Monks get full BAB and D10 HD
All martial get Power attack, Deadly Aim, Piranha Strike(Or whatever it's called) and Point Blank shot for free, we are using the alternate rules where there are the Deft Maneuvers feat and stuff
Ideally I'd like him to deal decent damage but also be able to contribute to combat in another way if say, the enemy has high DR or something.
Here's a Clank picture in return
>>50309412
Yeah but did I ask if low fantasy works? No I just wanted build advice, if the game turns out to be shit I'll drop it but I'm not going to say "Yeah sorry man, some random ass dude on 4chan said low fantasy is bad and wrong so I won't play your game" to the GM (a long time friend of mine).
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>>50309526
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>>50309429
The idea of a paladin abusing her save bonus to recreationally drink poison amused me.
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>>50309429
>Tell us the REAL "real" reason you made your character as you did

What do you mean by this?
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>>50309429
Oh shit that question is really relevant for what I was gonna post anyway

> playing with group for long-ish time
> new game about to start
> come up with concept for lithe fencer type character (kinda pic related)
> realize it wouldn't work well as a guy
> Casually ask party if it would be ok to play female character
> they all say yes
Flash Forward Two Sessions
> it's super fucking awkward
> can't speak on first person any more without feeling weird
> feel like any any second someone is gonna start to think I'm magical realming
> one group member is Trans and that just makes it weirder

What do I do /tg/? I genuinely just liked the aesthetic of the character.
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>>50309429

Because someone on here suggested Witch Killer Slayer, which sounded interesting and appropriate to the campaign-even more so once I learned another player was making a Witch.
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>>50309429
The real reason is always waifubait.
Mostly for myself.
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Hey /pfg/!

Is there a means by which I can attain Spheres CL 10 with a full BAB, even if it's only 1 Sphere, by level 10?

Trying to create someone who has access to the Portal and True Teleport ATs while still being a respectable melee combatant (if I can do this with, say Zweihander Sentinel Bushi as my only class, I will, but I can take Martial Trainings for days).
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So, fluff wise, would it be possible for a Razmiran priest to get over their sadist nature and leave Razmiran out of disgust and seeking to reform themselves?
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>>50309598
Why can't a man be a lithe fencer?
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>>50309429
My BF was applying for a game and so I just started with something that tickled his dick. Now I'm invested in the character so I'm working on making it more then just fap bait and he's dropped out from the game.
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>>50309149
Is it for RotJR? If nothing else you could just make a spherecaster and then take Fighter or something. It can be as braindead as you want it to be, and it's a decent passive side. Let's be honest, you're not going to get the most out of either your PoW side or SoP side if they're sharing your actions.
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What's the earliest level that lets you get a breath weapon?
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>>50309639
Uh
Yes?
>>50309679
Can't a kobold get one at level 1?
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>>50309679
I guess level 3 Kobold with Draconic Breath, but I'm certain there's earlier.
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>>50309679
Content allowed? If all DSP, iirc via bloodforge a human gets Mixed Blood+Ancestor's Breath (Or any other bloodforge race that natively qualifies for Ancestor's Breath).
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>>50309679

with third party, a spherecaster with the alteration sphere at level 1.
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>>50309714
I'm asking because I know Razmiran is pretty much a magical North Korea, with the added aspect that everyone's a drugged junkie.
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8th level game with 1 mythic tier
Human (+2 Str +2Cha)
Sohei 1/Enlightened Pal 7
Str 20, Dex 12, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 20
Traits: Magical Knack, Fates's favored

Feats: Fey Foundling, Combat Reflexes, Power Attack, Martial Focus (Close), Cut from the Air, Mythic Combat Reflexes. At 9th I'll pick Smash from the Air

Guardian: Sudden Block, Retributive Reach

Relevant Equipment: Mithral Kikko

Yay or nay?
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>>50309853
I guess that if no one's commented on this in three threads means that it's okay with nothing more to say about it.
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>>50309881
I'm used to people not answering my questions from time to time so I didn't know if it was that or people just ignoring me.
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>>50309853

You should be fine.
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>>50309598
If one of the players in the group is a Trans, then you've got no problems with the group except in your head. Seriously. What are you worried is going to happen? Someone saying "Changing genders? Ew!" ?? Tranny probably has your back, just don't start ERP or something.
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>>50309853
>Con 12
Anon, I...
>Feyfoundling and lay of hands on yourself
Nevermind
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>>50309584
>What do you mean by this?

Everyone gives their party a reason why they made their character, "Oh, I wanted to play a paladin" or "oh, I just felt like trying out these new Occult rules."

However, there's always, ALWAYS a second reason, the one you wouldn't tell your group, whether it ranges from the perverse "I wanted to play a chick with big tits" or just plain really awkward, ">>50309568"
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So my dwarf is an experienced Caravaneer and I figured out the curcuit he takes through Varisia.

>Kaer Maga -> Janderhoff
>Janderhoff -> Thistledown
>Whistledown-> Wartle
>Wartle -> Maginmar
>Maginmar -> Galduria
>Galduria -> Wartle
>Wartle -> Whistledown
>Whistledown -> Kaer Maga

The idea is he takes copper from Kaer Maga to Janderhoff, it's gets processed, then he goes along southern Varisia to the various towns towards Maginmar and supplied the Maginmar region with goods.

This is why he is an experienced Riverboat Sailor as well, which makes sense.

I've been working out his yearly scheduled and it spends a week in Sandpoint approximately every three months as he likes the town so stats for a while to relax.
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>>50310157
Awkward?
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How do I think of actions for my neutral character without doing nothing at all or seeming like I have no opinions or idea whatsoever
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>>50309429
I was converting NPCs from my 3.0 games to PF, and decided that the Monk of the Long Death was too edgy.

And, I kept hearing about the Brutal Bushi Slayer that people kept talking about on /pfg/.

And, I didn't realize that trading Primal Fury for Elemental Flux would be such a problem for some people.

Going by the rules for NPC creation, a group of four level 6 PCs can easily take one of him while only expending 25% of their resources. His katana isn't even magical.
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>>50310752

>Paladin that chugs "poison" like it's nothing

You aren't fooling anyone, Gareth-kun.
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>>50310762
I hate these filthy neutrals Kif! With enemies you know where they stand but with neutrals? Who knows! It sickens me.
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>>50310817

Tell my wife I said "Hello"
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>>50310830
What makes a man turn neutral ... Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
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>>50310837

My gut tells me maybe
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>>50310762
Have them be some normal dude. They won't go out of their way to hurt someone, but they won't mind if someone else suffers for their gain. They also won't go out of their way to help people.

In terms of ethics, they respect the law when it serves them, but aren't above swiping something if nobody will notice them doing it. the law is something to hide behind and respect when necessary, but to work around when it proves inconvenient.

The classic amoral mercenary is a good example of this, though that leans into Neutral Evil a bit.
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I have no strong feelings one way or another on this conversation.
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>>50310782
....?
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>>50311157
Alcohol. It's an alcohol joke.
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>>50309679
Why do you want a breath weapon, and how often do you want to use it?
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>>50311157

Do I have to spell it out for you?

Alcohol is poison!
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>>50311194
Anyone got that "alcohol is humanity's friend" pic? I'd post it but I lost mine and I'm multitasking right now.
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>>50311209
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>>50311194

Who is this semen demon?
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>>50311256
Galko-chan. She wants to be a loving mother and is very pure.
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>>50309448
Its a glorious place to be.
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>>50311278

>tfw you will never be a chesty bombshell that only wants to be a pure mother and wife
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>>50311278
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>>50311278
It's okay, corrupting them is the fun part!
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>>50311351

Is... Is this Fennec's perverted form?
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>>50311377
You shut your fucking mouth
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>>50309679
>>50309734
Bloodforge has it, and also Forrest's Avowed has it.
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>>50311387
Remember the guy that won Pokken at EVO for the sole purpose of getting more Delphox porn?
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>>50311329
>tfw you will never be able to play as a magical girl and have a friend play a magical girl and be able to combine your powers through the power of friendship to fire a huge fucking death ray that you can further empower by HOLDING HANDS EVEN TIGHTER

fuck this gay earth.
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>>50311415
what
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>>50311415

NO

NO

DON'T TELL ME HE'S FENNEC.
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>>50311278
Galko a cute.
And she's not even the best girl.
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>>50311251
Thanks, anon!
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>>50311422
I'm not kidding

https://twitter.com/pentaoku/status/754479523647721472

He also won EVO after that tweet
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>>50311418
>you will never be able to play as a Death Knight, do what the living cannot, and wield the power of undeath to destroy the demons that plague your world

Well, I could, if I could get this equipment sorted out.
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>>50311450
>And she's not even the best girl.

You shut your whore mouth, Galko-chan is best girl and purest in all the land!
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>>50311438

Trust me, he's not.
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>>50311501

Oh, so you're just a regular pervert, eh?
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>>50311465
A man with a cause is a terrifying thing.
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>>50311418
Anon, aid another on wrath of time. My mental image is more erupting burning finger sekiha love love tenkyoken, but it works nontheless
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>>50311519
>aid another
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>mfw all the RotJR character descriptions are coming in and they're...

... FUCKING GORGEOUS, how am I supposed to go up against these types?
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>>50311541
believe in our bonds anon
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>>50311541
How many threads back is the link again?
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>>50311533
>not understanding how wrath of time works.
Moreover aid another builds are fucking killer, just because you're shit at optimization doesn't mean you and your zealot and or pirate warlord waifu can't hold hands and defeat the big bad using the power of love.
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>>50311560

Here you go, friend! https://app.roll20.net/join/1770733/2aujeQ

>>50311549

Our immutable, immovable bonds? Gosh, if my friends are looking out for me than I surely have a shot!
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>>50311541
Don't worry, my character is not attractive in the slightest.

Also
>people posting character descriptions already

I don't know, it seems like we should calm down and wait.
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>>50311592
Thanks.
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>>50311617
Mine isn't either. So I assume he was talking about content.
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>>50311617
People are excited. Let them be; they aren't hurting anything.
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>>50311617
>Don't worry, my character is not attractive in the slightest.

What drugs are you on, anon? I want some! Every character in that thread is gorgeous, some of them are even cute! I think I even saw a 16 Charisma in there, that's downright adorable!
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>>50311592
BELIEVE IN OUR BONDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWhvaXpolQ
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>>50311493
Purity is virtue I seek in my uranium, not so much in my compatriots.
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>>50311541

I like playing ugly guys, myself. Seems more fun for some reason.
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>>50311668
Because it's fairly unusual, primarily. The vast majority of people play handsome/pretty characters.
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>>50311687

Really? I tend to play ugly types myself.
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>>50311653
>16 cha is the best so far
>I'm at 18 cha in my unposted build
I know cha is bad but is it so bad that nobody would use it?
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>>50311687
Same here.
>>50311699
3/4ths of the characters posted are Int Based.
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>>50311699

It just means you're going to be the purest, most precious cinnamon bun on the pile! Tell us about your character, so we can aww and daww in equal measure!
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>>50311699

pump or dump, anon, pump or dump.
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>>50311664

You can count on me, anon! I'll do my best!
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>>50311653
My character is an 8 charisma middle aged scarred up dwarf. Hell his description is, while not desperately ugly, is certainly not a handsome dwarf.

>>50311644
You're probably right. I just feel like I now need to get a movie on because everyone will have had their characters done for weeks by the time actual recruitment starts. So I don't know, maybe it's just me being a goober.
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>>50311720
cringe
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>>50311729

Are you sure it isn't supposed to be, "pump and dump?" Because that's what you're supposed to do with high Charisma, low-Wisdom characters.
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>>50311653
One character doesn't have a picture.

Another is described explicitly as not being an impressive specimen.

Another is LITERALLY a fucking techpriest.
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>>50311699
I'm at 17 CHA, 18 STR, with my posted Paladin|Bard.

All the purity of a paladin, all the connotations of a bard.
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>>50311699
>>18 cha
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>>50311699
>currently toward an 18 CHA Oracle/Antipally but still hashing out backstory hours after first mentioning it

It's a slow process, and I'm grateful for the help I've gotten so far.

If it turns out I can't run an LE, well. Then I'll have to figure something else out.
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>>50311766

>That spoiler

What are you trying to imply here, anon?
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>>50309429
Sauce on pic?
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>>50311764
Who the fuck plays a techpriest in pathfinder, that's retarded.
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>>50311766

Pure bards need their smiles protected.
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>>50311790
Boku no Twintails.
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>>50311720
Stop using the same 4 reaction images and I'd consider it. Let this terror end. It's the same faces every thread.

>>50311752
Did someone say low wis? Because I have 8.

>>50311766
>>50311776
Paladin fags get out, having a solid belief in your religion is for people with enough wis to figure things out.
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>>50311792
>not replacing weak flesh with pure steel
Casual.
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>>50311752
>tfw gamagirly is high cha low wis

fuck
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>>50311789
I'm saying that Song Lilin is my attempt to make waifu-bait. Read her fucking backstory, she's a gruff paladin who secretly just wants approval and sings to herself when she thinks no one can hear her.
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>>50311792
I think that's the guy suffering from crippling self-worth problems so he's trying to turn himself into a robolady because he thinks it'll help.
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>>50311814
This is a fantasy game you retarded fuck, leave that scifi shit out of here.
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>>50311812
>Stop using the same 4 reaction images and I'd consider it. Let this terror end. It's the same faces every thread.

I haven't used that reaction image in at *least* three threads, though!
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>>50311838
cringe
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>>50311822
That's retarded, no one's stupid enough to think that makes sense. The character just needs to nut up and quit being a bitch.
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>>50311816

Anon-kun, there's nothing to be ashamed of for being an impulsive, easily impressionable young woman with hefty assets.

You just gotta invest a little bit in Night Tea.
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>>50311737
The general idea is:
>Extremely tall for a dwarf at 4'8", but desperately thing. His skin is a grey pale that clings to his bones. Sunken watery eyes disappear behind a heavy brow, and his nose is misshapen on one side due to being severely broken, but is still large and slightly hooked. His head is cleanly shaven, and his face is adorned with only coarse black stubble. A strong jawline and pronounced chin give his face a drawn look, particularly his large drooping eyebrows contribute to this. His physique is one of wiry strength, but next to no substantial muscle mass. He normally dressed extremely smartly, switching between his well kept armor and well dressed merchant's garb. Unfortunately due to his skin not agreeing with the harsh sun the top of his head is nearly permanently raw pink, the skin peeling in the heat. To hide this he wears a overside round hat that sits atop his head in a poof. If seen without his shirt one will notice an enormous amount of scarring covering his hands and arms, ending just past his shoulders. While the scars are now faded to a degree the numerous white lines criss cross each other. They become more pronounced on his back where the gnarled flesh form large permanent welts of built up scar tissue.
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>>50311766
BARD-A-DINS ARE PURE

PPPUUURREEE
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>>50311817

No no, I read her backstory, I'm just saying she neither looks like the "bard type" nor does she strike me as particularly lustful in her backstory. She's waifubait for days, sure. She's a character I'd try to get in some filthy ERP, sure. But a bard? Naw man, naw.
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>>50311812
>implying high Wis would allow for EEEVIL
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>>50311737
>I just feel like I now need to get a movie on because everyone will have had their characters done for weeks by the time actual recruitment starts

I know how that feels, dude. I've got all my backstory planned out but I just don't know the niggling details of writing them out... And if I did write them out, how would I know I wrote them out in a pleasing way?
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>>50311863
She's not impulsive or impressionable! Rules are very important

RURURURURURUUUUUULES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J548XM9-jKU
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>>50311832
Clockwork grafts have been in fantasy for years.
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>>50311921
>And if I did write them out, how would I know I wrote them out in a pleasing way?

By posting it and getting feedback! That's what that thread's for, basically.

>>50311737

>You're probably right. I just feel like I now need to get a movie on because everyone will have had their characters done for weeks by the time actual recruitment starts. So I don't know, maybe it's just me being a goober.

Characters done further away from deadlines don't really have a higher chance of getting in; we're mostly just talking about them for feedback, advice, that sort of thing, yeah? Only four of us are getting in regardless, and whether or not that's a character that was done right after the game was announced or literally the last day of applications, it only matters which ones are good, and more time does not always equal a better character.
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>>50311878
UGLY

Fuck off, you're not wanted. We need cute characters.
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>>50311899
Yeah, that was mostly a joke. But it's the bard on the inside that counts, and filthy ERP is definitely not out of the question.

>>50311888
P U R E
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>>50311903
What sort of EEEEVIL are you talking about anon?
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>>50311955
And they've been retarded for years, too. Leave sci fi in sci fi and fantasy in fantasy and kill steampunk dead.
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>>50311982
>having taste this shit
There wasn't a meaningful distinction until everyone started trying to ape Lord of the Rings and only Lord of the Rings.
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>>50311958
>By posting it and getting feedback! That's what that thread's for, basically.

I'll do my best!
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How did this thread quickly devolve into an erp thread. Is this how it always is?
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>>50311982
You are why we couldn't have firearms, bombards, and clockwork monstrosities in 3.0 Forgotten Realms.
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>>50312012
I personally am fine with talking about characters. But talking about ERP needs this thread purged.

Like >>50311878 is fine, dwarf guy is not an ERP character.

This fucker >>50311720 needs a purging.
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>>50311929
>She's not impulsive or impressionable! Rules are very important

But she's a dumbie! An easily impressionable, hair-trigger dumbie!
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>>50311975
Rebelling against the flow of souls, promoting the cause of Hell itself and maybe sneaking a few sips of blood here and there.

Also, subjecting his enemies to soul-wrenching plagues and calling forth the corpses of the damned to do his bidding for maybe a couple of rounds a day.
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>>50312012

/pfg/ is /cute traps and lewd girls ERP general/, didn't you know?
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Since we're trying to move away from ERP.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1011583

How do I make her not shit? I have no baseline, but with gestalt, PoW and SoP on the table I feel like she's really below where she should/could be.
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Isn't the cuteposting supposed to be in the containment group?

>>50311959
Your reminder that a 7 Cha Kitsune is among the applicants
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>>50312039
I don't think that sounds very nice. You best hope we ain't in the same group or you'll get a taste of some justice.

>>50312066
How does a kitsune get so ugly?
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>>50312066
That's whats weird.

The containment group is for the most part, criticism and what if's describing legitimate character interactions. People posting backstories, and such.

Shit posters gonna shit post.
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>>50312064
>How do I make her not shit?

She's more than capable, anon. In fact, the only thing I would ask you to change is her choice in weapon; what the heck's a Tian samurai doing with a greatsword? Shouldn't it be a Nodachi or something?
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>>50312064
>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1011583
My first advice is you shouldn't be Str based. Dex is a stronger stat.
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>>50312081
Cha =/= Appearance. He probably has autism.
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>>50312106
>dex faggotry
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>>50312066
>7 Cha Kitsune
>actually not ugly
>just Tomoko-tier socially inept
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>>50312108
Dwarfbro has +20 to diplomacy, the highest out of all the applicants.
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>>50312128

Dwarves are incapable of being attractive, sounds like he just has a way with words.
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>>50312128
>+20 diplomacy
So he has his pick of the waifus is what you're saying?
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>>50312106

>He doesn't like his girls with defined abs and toned muscles
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I'm honestly just mostly struggling with the gamagirly's backstory and shit right now. And how they actually look.
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>>50312144
More than a way with words, +20 at level 3 is pretty damn high.

And no yeah, like he said Dwarfbro is a ugly dwarf.
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>>50312097
I'd justify it by saying that she left most of her Tian stuff behind, but you're right. It was mostly done because I've crunched the numbers on most weapons but not the Eastern stuff. What's better, nodachi or naginata?

>>50312106
But then I'd have to switch to... Azata-blooded.
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>>50312160
>pick of the waifus
I don't think you understand anon. At that level he can get all the waifus.

Also I did the math wrong, it's +22.
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>>50312195
> +22.
What the fuck?

How?
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>>50312182
>What's better, nodachi or naginata?

Anon, I could give you detailed stats all night to explain which is best for what situation...

... But, we're dealing with an ADVENTURE PATH here, the worst case scenario is you do a little shitty for one or two encounters, and then go on to effortlessly breeze through the rest of the campaign. I say this with full sincerity, pick whatever you want to use most.

Do you see this girl as being an expert at handling vicious great swords... Or is she better fit for twirling around thick, long rods?
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>>50312236
>... But, we're dealing with an ADVENTURE PATH here
You assume the DM isn't going to change absolutely anything about encounter at all?
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>>50312118
>7 cha kitsune is shit in social situations and easily pisses people off
>all because he's too fucking smug
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>>50312144
The Year of the Dwarf is coming.
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>>50312251

I'm assuming he changes just enough that there's a pep in everyone's step, but hardly enough to really provide a challenge for whatever optimized monstrosity /pfg/ can squirt out when needed.
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>>50312207
He's a Ordained Defender Warder/Inquisitor
>+3 (ranks)
>+3 (class skill)
>+4 (conversion inquisition for wisdom)
>+4 (infiltrator to add wisdom in addition)
>+2 (best friend trait)
>+2 (nobility blessing inspiring word)
>+2 (stoic negotiator racial trait)
>+2 (Aspect of the Nightingale)

+22
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>>50312294

This feels filthy, like I'm looking at a build designed specifically to achieve some overpowered result without a reasonable IC explanation.
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>>50312236
I'm actually pretty concerned about underpreforming. I've played an adventure path as a chained rogue before and it felt pretty terrible to have to stand back and poke at things while the rest of the party carried my ass around.

That said it's nodachi all the way character wise.
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>>50312308

Well yeah, you were playing a standard rogue, those types are worthless even in a standard campaign (no offense.)

What you've got going on is not only adorable (Bardadin a best) but pretty powerful, as the adventures of Lydia(?) would tell you, and those didn't have maneuvers!

You're fine, anon. Give that girl a Nodachi and go to town.
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>>50312269
The power of delusion

DA dwarves have orangutan bodies
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>>50311982
Yeah because D&D shouldn't have scifi in it!

Never mind the fact that the elves had space-capable giant robots back in what fucking 2e?
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>>50312306
No actually there is a lot of purpose behind all of the things he is.

Former dwarven noble who was trapped in a cave in when going to inspect a family mine. Had a fateful encounter with "something" in the darkness while being trapped down there for a month and a half. Came back with Friend's Grip (he is also a fiendish marauder). He is marked as a monster and exiled from dwarven society after being punished for the crime of cannibalism, one he committed to survive after the cave in (ate other dwarves who had been crushed, otherwise he would have starved). What ever was in the dark chose him as afterwards he had the fiend's grip and inquisitor powers. After that he became a cavaneer that travels between the Kaer Maga territory and Maginmar territory. He has been doing so for 40 or so years now and became a competent merchant (takes his negotiations very seriously). He has seen Ameiko grow up and has been visiting sandpoint for longer than she has been alive. He makes the circuit multiple times per year.

I took breadth of experience, a bunch of professions, and more.

I have a bunch of stuff on him and why he has all the stuff he does.
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>characters in a gestalt 32 pb game are dying to a basic encounter

what did i do wrong guys.
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>>50312369
Post character sheet.
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>>50312369

What the fuck, anon.
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>>50312369
Fate is a cruel mistress.

Is it bad if I've gone numb to almost dying in basically every fight?
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>>50312402

>Implying the moments of near-death aren't ones of celebration

I embrace death as an old friend, anon.
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>>50312402
>>50312391
>>50312388
I rolled 3 crits as the DM against one poor bastard.
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>>50312391
Do you believe in destiny?

>>50312425
It has been fun, though.
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>>50312362
In fucking spelljammer, which was shit back then, too; you should never put sci fi in your fantasy, that's the best way to ruin everything. I want elves and dwarves and sword and sorcery, not stupid spacefaring cyborg magitech special snowflake bullshit, that shit's for kids who don't know any better and manchildren who should. Purity of essence in setting and system, that's what's needed.
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>>50312441

DELETE THIS

DELETE THIS
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>>50312236
>>50312251
I mean I'm assuming the DM is going to alter Rise of the Runelords/Jade Regent to make it not so... dull, right? I mean I've never played either of those, but the problem with most Paizo APs is they throw half a dozen shitty encounters at you that don't adequately drain resources. I remember playing Mummy's Mask once and just really struggling to stay attentive because one encounter would be like 3 skeletons and they expect this to be engaging.
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>>50312360
Done and done anon. Thanks for the confidence boost, and I do still have a month to work on her.
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>>50312294
>>50311878
>ugly dwarf come to steal your waifus
>ugly dwarf with 8 charisma come to steal your waifus
>ugly dwarf with 8 charisma come to steal Ameiko
It's /pfg/'s worst nightmare
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>>50312451
Bruh, it's taking place in Golarion.

The place that has A FUCKING CRASHED SPACESHIP IN IT.

Complaining about scifi in Golarion is too little, too late.
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>>50312487

Jokes on you, I never went into this expecting waifus! Ha ha ha!
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>>50312487

>He is the most interesting dwarf in the world
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>>50312457
Rusty Dagger Shanktown is one heck of a place.
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>>50312128
>Dwarfbro has +20 to diplomacy,

>Godfather.jpg
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>>50312451
Fuck off to 5e or something. Seriously, there wasn't a distinction of "pure fantasy" and "pure sci-fi" until relatively recently.
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>>50312261
It's not true smug unless you can get away with it.
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>>50312451
Expedition to the Barrier Peaks.

Now go take your meds, your autism is scaring the children.
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>>50312487
i hope they nip this ameiko shit in the bud, people wanting to spend all their time fucking the NPCs always creates a slog. guarantee there's at least one shit hawk that wants to "mind break" her just like his hentai games
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>>50312459

The thing with Jade Regent and Rise of the Runelords is that, even if you remove the combat encounters, they're pretty fun campaigns. Seriously, the fights aren't half as interesting as the non-combat encounters in these APs.
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>>50312487
MELTDOWN
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>>50312531

Anon, there's like seven NPCs in the campaign that you can reasonably fuck.

So what if you can't fuck Ameiiko? There's always Kelda Oxgutter.
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>>50312531
Dwarfbro wants a pure relationship without any sort of carnal relations, as has been stated. He is the safest bet. Him and his diplomacy shall guard the group against such people. His minmaxing shall save us from such disgusting individuals. He is the hero we need.
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>>50312499
Golarion's shit, then, wtf. Was that always there? I'm gonna have to sell all my pathfinder shit now.

>>50312530
Was the worst module ever printed for a reason.
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>tfw I haven't invested a single skillpoint in Diplomacy
>tfw my Charisma is 10
>tfw I will never shack up with an NPC using the proper relationship rules
>tfw I'm not actually upset at this

This is a very complicated feel I'm having right now, guys.
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>>50312590
you can always make it with another player :D
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>>50312560
> He is the safest bet.
He explicitly said he wants to romance Ameiko.
>>50312531
>campaign proposes having a relationship/wanting one with an NPC is a legit motivation for PC's
>surprised when people use that.
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>>50312554
>>50312560
i'm just saying when someone spends all their time chasing NPC tail it drags the game down for everyone else
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>>50312584
Yes. Yes it was always there.

It's why Pathfinder has rules for lasers, cybernetics, and robots.

Their effectiveness is somewhat dubious, but they're there.
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>>50312294
>+4 (conversion inquisition for wisdom)
>+4 (infiltrator to add wisdom in addition)

Does not stack.
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>>50312620
It specifies 'in addition to the normal modifier.'

So it explicitly stacks.
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>>50312609
The entire game is about chasing the NPC's tail though, seriously.

She's either traveling with you, kidnapped, or knocked out and you need to get macguffin to save her.

This isn't an "oh man I gotta stay home and not do shit because muh waifu" situation.
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>>50312604

You say that with a sarcastic face, yet I'm not actually opposed to fucking another player at all, in fact I'd greatly appreciate that over shacking up with an NPC!

It all depends on which PC wants to become a mother the most, I guess.
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>>50312620

yes it does, conversion is a replacement effect, infiltrator is an addition.
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>>50312620
Yes it does, specific trumps general in this case as Infiltrator specifically says in addition to what ever normal bonus is added. Specifically not in addition to charisma, but in addition to what ever is normally added.
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>>50312640
No stacking the same ability modifier twice untyped.
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>>50312673
Conversion explicitly replaces charisma; that's like saying some class feature that lets you add your intelligence to spellcraft checks doesn't work because you already do.
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>>50312673
Specific trumps general.

It says outright 'in addition to'
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>>50312529
Well, getting away with something is certainly on the table, the question is: what specifically?
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>>50312606
>He explicitly said he wants to romance Ameiko.
As the player for Dwarfbro the plan is simply to use the system to romance Ameiko. I do not plan on engaging in any ERP. I would prefer if no ERP occured. I in fact planned on possibly pursuing romance with both Ameiko and Shalelu and deciding later on which one to choose depending on how the campaign itself goes. I was going to ask if it was possible I could get two campaign traits, one for each, as I already planned don having a drawback regardless. The Shalelu traits are less interesting to me however and would have preferred a more "chance encounters" based one as we are both infrequent guests to Sandpoint.
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>>50312685
>>50312691

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nqql?Inquisitor-Infiltrator-and-Heresy-Inquisition

Basically it USED to work until it got FAQed.
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>tfw want to apply
>have only ever played in very simplistic Pathfinder games
>never used any third party
>never made anything complex mechanically
>afraid some of these high design character concepts will overshadow me and make me useless

What's a pleb to do?
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>>50312735
>As the player for Dwarfbro the plan is simply to use the system to romance Ameiko
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. ERP or not you're planning on romancing her.
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>>50312746

A pleb could tell us the concept they want to play, and we will start from there. You don't know a thing about third party, yeah? So tell us what you want to play and we'll point to some third party you need to look at!
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>>50312739
I'll have to ask the GM if I can use the old version.
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>>50312746
They will 100% overshadow you

But at the very least they can all bully you afterwards and maybe give you a reach around or something in this case
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>>50312767
>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. ERP or not you're planning on romancing her.
I mean it's a part of Jade Regent.
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>>50312746
I'm in the same boat. I just don't have the confidence to write up an application. I don't even know what I'd play.
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>>50312746
Ask us for help. Say a concept or a thought that's popped into your head and we'll run with it.
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>>50312739
>I'm going to use JJ as a rule source, even though he specifically doesn't want to be used as one.
>The 'in addition to' is never addressed at all

Care to try again?
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>>50312798
>in addition to
Means jack shit ever since the FAQ.
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>>50312746
Ask for help. Lots of people are willing to help make "always on" characters. Basically characters who are effective without requiring mechanical complexity.
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>>50312778

I DON'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH NUMBER CRUNCHING DORKS

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS PLAY A FUN GAME WITH COOL DUDES.

I LOVE YOU GUYS, WHY YOU GOTTA DO THIS TO ME.
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>>50312746
i dunno you probably don't need to worry that much about it, anything susceptible to getting full attacked is going to gets asshole sheared by full attacking, regardless if you're playing some bonkers 3rd party thing or just a Fighter

i would worry first about making something that integrates into the setting and the narrative competently
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>>50312805
JJ literally asks not to be used as rulings. What your linking isn't an FAQ. The question is never addressed in an errata. There is a reason it isn't on the page. Fuck off.
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>>50312790
Applications aren't until January. Take a week to come up with a concept, a week to make a first draft, a week to trash it and find a new concept, a week to make a draft of that, a week to iron it out and you'll still have a week left over.

>>50312823
Then don't. Make something you enjoy and just do it.
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>>50312789
I don't disagree. I'm just saying I don't get why the other anon is complaining that people are trying to get with the NPC in the AP about getting with NPCs.
>>50312735
So why is a 100 something year old Dwarf trying to fuck a !Asian human chick in her 20 somethings?
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>>50312823
If it makes you feel better, the guy I'm pondering is a robo-armed knife-thrower.

Maybe with some TK powers to let him walk on walls and shit. Not sure yet.
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>>50312584
Temple of the Frog - and quite a bit of Conan - would like to discuss how objectively wrong you are and always have been.
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>>50312831
>What your linking isn't an FAQ.

http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm

>Do ability modifiers from the same ability stack? For instance, can you add the same ability bonus on the same roll twice using two different effects that each add that same ability modifier?

>No. An ability bonus, such as "Strength bonus", is considered to be the same source for the purpose of bonuses from the same source not stacking. However, you can still add, for instance “a deflection bonus equal to your Charisma modifier” and your Charisma modifier. For this purpose, however, the paladin's untyped "bonus equal to her Charisma bonus (if any) on all saving throws" from divine grace is considered to be the same as "Charisma bonus (if any)", and the same would be true for any other untyped "bonus equal to her [ability score] bonus" constructions.

Eat shit.
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>>50312844
>So why is a 100 something year old Dwarf trying to fuck a !Asian human chick in her 20 somethings?

So you can't have her, obviously.

Unless you agree to an MFM threesome, I guess.
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>>50312867
That's not what the fucking point of contention is you twatbag.

The point of contention is that if 'in addition to' counts as a 'specific trumps general'

Tone down the smug, you shitbandit.
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>>50312844
>So why is a 100 something year old Dwarf trying to fuck a !Asian human chick in her 20 somethings?
The plan is not to enter into a romantic relationship until later, but remain friends unless some events sparks a romantic relationship making sense. Romance on that front would be very odd considering the character took "Best Friend" because he literally saw Ameiko grow up from a young child to an adult and has interacted with her, albeit infrequently, the entire time.

So a romance would only occur when it makes sense to occur. Being a fantastic negotiator, liar, and merchant are part of who he is as a character, not a means to "steal waifus".
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I'm really not sure what to make Gamagirly's backstory other than making sure that she is very much a fan of RULES and DISCIPLINE. Maybe aspires to be a hellknight?
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>>50312881
>The dwarf is intentionally causing NTR
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>>50312902

Maybe her dad was a guardsman, and she always followed him out on patrols? Don't be afraid to go cute and sappy with her reasons, anon.
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>>50312902
>Aspires to be a hellknight
Kicked out of hellknight training for bullying.
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>>50312929
He isn't intentionally doing it, he is merely fully capable of doing it at any time.
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>>50312937
But hellknights are big on bullying! They're the biggest bullies of all! It only makes sense for her to be a giant bully!

Now the party just needs a short bard, a smart guy that seems to know everything, and a swordsman/woman to go with the gamagirly and then.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSAp991JIVs
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>>50312963
It's not bullying if it's part of THE RULES.

Then it's DISCIPLINE.
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>>50312823
Where the fuck do you even are nerd

This place is literally nothing but number crunching dorks.

Gettouttahere
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>>50312963

>Swordsman
>Smart guy that seems to know everything

I've got his backstory all figured out and I still haven't written it up. What the heck am I waiting for?
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>>50312995
>This place is literally nothing but number crunching dorks.

And then 2hu causes a stir for being TOO MUCH of a number crunching dork amongst number crunching dorks.
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I'm conflicted.

Do I wanna try and go with the handsome and charming not-actually-rogue knifetosser lad with theoretical robo-arms?

Or the creepy spiderlady Hedgewitch?

Stupid question, right? Those robo arms are probably way too expensive for this guy to afford.

Can someone link the game? I'm honestly getting too curious for my own good now.
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>>50312942
terrifying
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>>50313058

https://app.roll20.net/join/1770733/2aujeQ

I feel *filthy* handing these out now.
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>>50312963
Do they get to fight a doshomancer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93oihEbeKmw

>>50313058
https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1770733/waiting-room-of-the-runeregent
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>>50313058

robo-arms are about 5k each if I remember, but if you get very, very lucky there is a character who plans to take the cybertech crafting feat.
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>Really hyped for the game
>Everyone is getting excited
>I'll never be able to actually play thanks to my job

You lads have fun
I'll be cheering from the sidelines
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>>50312768
>>50312796
>>50312810
Okay, how about a snake-themed, snake-worshiping, proselytizing evangelist with a lot of snake-themed weapons and snake-themed spells?
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>>50313085
honestly Takarada had the most amazing dub voice in english, slappin hoes.
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>>50313143
How does snek feel about defying the River of Souls?
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>>50313112

No! Stop! Don't let go of your dreams until we get a good idea what day or time this campaign is playing!

I want you to apply, anon! You're precious to us!
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>>50313143
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>>50313143

The spells can be done with refluffing; as far as elsewise, I'd suggest a divine caster on one half of your gestalt, otherwise you maybe want a more direct combat one on the other. Might I suggest a nagaji race, perhaps inquisitor on one side of Nalinivati, their racial deity, with living grimoire to become intelligence based to be an alchemist on the other side for poisons? It's a little busy, but that gets you poison use... as far as third party for that, I'd look into path of war's system, one of the archetypes to let you do initiation with alchemists, that'd be the polymath out of path of war expanded.
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>>50313143
>snake-themed spells

I honestly can't even think of any off the top of my head
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>>50313228

Ah, balls, polymath loses poison use, that's not useful for you if you want to go all in on the snake theme... though they do get steel serpent, which has poison like effects, hmm.
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>>50313179
A snake basically is a river.

>>50313204
There's gotta be a rule for shooting a snake from a bow, right?
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>>50313301
There is serpent archer
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>>50313281
STICKS TO SNEKS
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>>50313337
What fucking cleric is this?
>9 strength
>6 Dex
>15 Int
>12 Wisdom
>17 Charisma
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>>50313386
He doesn't need his body, he can defeat his enemies with the power of his faith alone!

Fear his second level spells!
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>>50313386
>>50313430
ADND was a strange time.
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>>50313430
>12 wisdom
>defeating shit with faith.
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>>50313386

>t. martin luther
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>>50313439
So were those stats good for an AD&D cleric?
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>>50313294
Poisoner's Stance (Steel Serpent) grants Poison Use.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/disciplines-and-maneuvers/steel-serpent-maneuvers
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>>50313445

What are you, some Catholic?
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>>50313458
I think Clerics needed Cha back then?

Or they did at some point anyway.
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>>50313479

Ah, there yo ugo then, snake anon; inquisitor of nalinivati (living grimoire)|alchemist (polymath), focus on steel serpent and spells you can refluff to snake themes, go int and then dex, I'd say, and you're golden!

... except nagaji have a racial intelligence penalty.

Well then; perhaps forgo living grimoire and go stalker instead of alchemist, that way you're wisdom based on both sides! Go strength instead of dexterity though, now that I"m looking at the nagaji racial stats; for some reason I thought they were another dex/int race, not a str/cha race with an in penalty.
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>>50313535
Hmm, I'd better write this all down... But then I'm wondering if this is getting a bit far from being an evangelist type. And I'm thinking now i might want to take it to a more tribal direction, though poison use is still pretty lucrative thematically... though I don't get why a snek race has a cha bonus.
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>>50313575
>why a snek race has a cha bonus
big fat snek tats
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>>50313602
Witch.
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>>50313575
Well, snakes are cute!

Another option you might want to look into is going oracle on one side of the gestalt; it's actually charisma based, unlike inquisitor, and I believe there is a snake or poison mystery? It's not on the srd, but I swear I saw one around somewhere in a paizo published book; from there, you could perhaps look at Zealot, out of Tome of Battle Expanded, which is a sort of ally support based initiator; you'd want to trade out things to get steel serpent, but that's easily enough done, and both are forceful and evangelical classes!
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>>50313602
Beguiler.
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>>50313575
It's them hypnotic eyes.
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>>50313612
>>50313575
kobold press has a "Snakes" mystery
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>>50313535
>>50313575
If you want Snek, there's also Vishkanya you can look at. They're Dex/Cha with -Wis.

They also get poison use and are practically immune to poison after a couple levels.+HD to saves vs poison is a hell of a thing.
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>>50313649
>>50313575
Vishkanya bard/something else? Literal snake dancer?
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>>50313697
Rogue. Get Grig Jig. Turn the tables.
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>>50313697
If you take the sorcerer serpentine bloodline charm person basically becomes charm monster..
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>>50313602

What kinda character are you looking to create?
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Mesmerist?
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Just wanted to hop in and say thanks for the suggestions yesterday, everybody! I'm already almost finished with Konosuba (Episode 7) and I'm surprised at how good it is, the voice actors specifically!
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>constant shitposting about a campaign that's months off
>spurs constant theorycrafting and build shuffling for thread after thread
>all this is doing is reminding me how much fun I was having with a game that never consistently meets
>I will never get to consistently play my investigator so I can have a good romp around stabbing bad bitches and getting dragged to the ground and strangled
>I will likely never get high as fuck on mutagens and attempt to defuse magitech nuclear reactors again anytime soon

Just lay me down
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>>50313824
Death is for the living, anon.
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>>50313812
No problem anon. Who's your favorite character thus far and why is it Megumin?
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>>50313871

This may come as a surprise, but I actually really, really like Aqua, she's a fantastically petty character that has come a long way from being a Goddess to a spoiled, uptight arch priest.

As for non-main cast, I can't get enough of... What's his name, Verdia? The Dullahan? I just want to see MORE of him.
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Hum.

Decisions decisions.

Fighter and Vigilante? Or Fighter and Hedgewitch? I'm sure whether I want this spidergal to be more rogueish or more witchlike.
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>>50314021
>I'm sure whether I want this spidergal to be more rogueish or more witchlike.

Which would you have more fun roleplaying, anon? The spellcasting, clever spider girl? Or the sneaky, well-mannered spider girl?
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>>50314029
See, that's the thing, I'm not sure.

I like Traditions a lot. Black Magic and Herbology together would make for some fun.

But then, Fighter and Vigilante just... synergize better, you know? It's more... cohesive, both in mechanics and theme.

Should see if the DM will allow access to that alternate alchemy thing from Worlds of Power. Cuz that'd be nice.
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>>50313445
Luther King was no Cleric. He was Rogue with really high Bluff.

Or you mean the other Luther?
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>>50314167
>an actual Reverend
>not a Cleric
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>>50309429
Wait, is there a way to do this in pathfinder? Like, not some level 15-20 end game sort of thing?
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>>50314183
>implying anyone IRL casts spells
He was an expert or something.
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Question about Gestalt games, how does Oracle|Sorcerer interact if you take Mystic Theurge?
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>>50314167
>He was Rogue with really high Bluff.

You're cruising for a bruising, buddy
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>>50314183
REALLY high Bluff
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>>50314223
The strength of mystic theurge really comes out when you have a mix of a prepared and spontaneous spellcasting class. Otherwise combined spells are a bit shit.

The build I suggest is Cleric|Empyreal Sorcerer.
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Favorite RotJR characters so far?

I'm digging NTRDwarf
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>>50314319
i'm biased but Gamagirly because i'm making her and having FUN
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What are some of your favorite high level encounters, traps, etc. for a party that's on the brink of too powerful? How do I make it so they go from playing God of War to playing Dark Souls?
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>>50314319
>Favorite RotJR characters so far?

Gosh, anon. Are you talking from a "mentioned in these threads" perspective, or actually posted in the Characters thread?

Because if the former, I rather liked the DILF artisan sworlord concept, but if the latter I have to go with the lyrical samurai.
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I see a lot of posts here about making a snake theme PC...

How about a hawk? What class would best reflect pic related?
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>>50314357
i mean you can literally become THE FALCON with a vigilance archetype
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>>50314375

>flight at level 17

wew lad amazing archetype
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>>50314440
its less about what it does and more that it lets you be THE FALCON

the falcon is a shit superhero.
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>>50312441
... The gasping, slow realization that she's dying...

This shouldn't make me so hard.
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>>50314330
>>50314352

yfw your character is probably bottom tier. Now to come in from behind and win the hearts of millions!
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>>50314468

I want you to come in from behind, anon.
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>>50314468
Tell me about your bottom-tier character, anon!
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>>50314458
virt go away
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>>50314458

DELETE THIS
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>>50314473
>>50314480

But everyone knows my bottom tier character already. The real issue behind Onryou is that there's very little i can do to develop her further without the game starting, and already people are far more interested in some of the other characters. With good reason!
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>>50314455
>>50314375
Uh I believe anon said hawk and not falcon *breathes heavily*

>>50314440
Jokes aside I'm not familiar with the vigilante archetype. Is it some type of rogue that can fly? I would imagine a hunter/ranger, cleric, wizard or fighter would be other options for a hawk theme character.
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>>50314514

Anon, how dare you try to call Onryou a bottom tier character when she has and always will be a cute, solid application to the campaign. You should not have to trawl for attention here, and any focus we make on other characters does *not* mean we're ignoring her!

Relax dude, Onryou is fiiiiiiiine, you're just getting the post-submission jitters is all. It happens to all of us.
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>Tfw have a set character idea for an Avowed/Initiator of some sort but can't join in all the fun characterbuilding because Avowed isn't even completely out yet so it's too hasty to commit to a pact

And it's not going to help when Avowed 1's full playtest comes out because it's already confirmed that next month we're getting Avowed 2!
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When will /pfg/ be free of all this circlejerking over the ERP game?

Is this the hell we chose?
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So, I just moved and I'm looking to run a game. However, my local area sucks, and thus I'll be turning to this group of cool dudes to play on roll20. Does anyone want to run a campaign, 7-11 PM EST Tuesday and negotiable Wednesdays? Probably going to be looking to run either a homebrew setting wherein the PC's set out to join one of several free companies in their effort to reclaim the corrupted city from a necromantic cult, or we can do Wrath of the Righteous/Hell's Rebels.

Any interest? Would be looking at 4-5 players.
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>>50314540

Isn't the only new thing coming out of Avowed 2 the Betrothed?
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>>50314514
If it makes you feel any better, I'm losing steam because there's only so much enjoyment you can pull from shitposting about a game that won't start for months, which you might not even have time to join. Not even smug can help me.

>>50314542
We really need to find something else for people to get interested in. Maybe once the weekend settles out there'll be some good stories from weekend games? Playtests? LITERALLY ANYTHING.
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>>50314542
Yes.

Also, it'll end once the submissions actually open and 50+ people get disappointed over not being picked.
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>>50314542
When the game starts and the whining about not getting in stops too
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>>50314544

If you're running, we will play; I'd be down to give wrath of the righteous a try, it's the one that dips into mythic, right? I've always wanted to give that subsystem a go,.
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>>50314514
Onryou's solid dude. You're nervous because everyone else is fresh to you while you've already worn out the idea in your own mind.
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>>50314544

Yeah I'd be interested, Wednesday's a free day for me!
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>>50314562
Betrothed is only one of the two new archetypes.

It's also coming with a handful of more pacts like Apallie pact
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>>50314542
its because we're all trapped and only able to apply to this one game

save us anon.
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>>50314542
We're months away from that, submissions haven't even been accepted yet and then there's the post-submission fallout
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>>50314563
>weekend game

I am the primary recipient of healing in the party and it's not helping anyone.
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>>50314352

He's not a DILF, actually! He's just a widower that lost his wife to the Late Unpleasantness five years before the campaign's start.
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>>50314544
Can I play a homebrew class? I am almost positive it isn't overpowered.
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>>50314624
That doesn't make him NOT a DILF.
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>>50314542
>tfw I was the one who recommended the GM make the waiting room

Admittedly I only thought it would catch all the interested players in that one dying thread and be forgotten about, and not be reposted every thread to continue to soak up new players for weeks, but...
Yeah, I really should have thought that through more.


Though if offshoot games actually do happen to make lots of people happy, it will have been worth it.
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>>50314624
Post him so that we can pair him up with other potential party members.
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>>50314648
>no kids
>somehow a DILF
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>>50314544

That sounds like fun. I wouldnt mind joining that as a player.
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>>50314343
No one here has ran a game that's made it to high level, unless it started at high level.
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Sorcerer (Razmiran Priest) | Cleric or Oracle? concept. A Razmiran priest(ess) who thought they enjoyed their life. Money, power, women, drugs, all of these luxuries and much more. Either a middle aged human or a species with a relatively long lifespan. Torturing, murdering and exorting was their daily truth as they spread the faith of Razmir. Slaughtered more than their share in the mad God's expansion to make examples. It didn't matter to them if Razmir was a God or not, what mattered was that they were at the top. Perhaps even built a reputation for themselves as a vicious, steadfast servant of Razmir, only for them to be face to face with the child of a victim they'd slain ages ago. It was a hard fought confrontation, and although they survived, the child left a curse on the Priest's soul, awakening in them the pain they've made others suffer for decades.
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>>50314681
Now they've exiled themselves and they try to atone for their sins, but the voices just won't stop. Finding peace in Sandpoint, Ameiko's wise words were some of the only near-daily pleasures the former priest had anymore. They would find though that the Curse they had could play in their favor, and the priest now uses his pain to the service of those in need.
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>>50314667
DILF (And MILF, coming to that) less relies on having had children, and more just being dadlike (or momlike).
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>>50314592
Also the Aspirant, an archetype based around transforming into an embodiment of your pact, Fiend and Celestial subpacts, and a new race. [spoilers]For people who like Hellbred.[/spoilers]
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>>50314685
Would a wolf-girl who just want's to be team mom be a MILF even if she isn't particularly old?
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>>50314694
... Sorry, guys. As you can see I'm not as good at 4chan as Forrest.
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>>50314702

No, that just makes her motherly.

However, she *could* become a MILF between the events of Burnt Offerings and Jade Regent.

After all, that's about 4 years of downtime, plenty of time to have a kid of four.
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>>50314694
>>50314703
It's okay! The tag is spoiler, no s at the end.

>>50314702
Maybe not! But an Urgathoan priestess who carries her dead husband's skull around could be!
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>>50314646
Show me what you're interested in, and I'll probably OK it.

>>50314591
>>50314574
>>50314675

Alright then, we'll be starting at 4th level, allowed materials are all 1pp and DSP 3pp. If there's any particular favorites you want to include from 3pp that I don't have, let me see it and we can talk about it.

I've got a few homebrew things I'm compiling, so send a quick email to show interest at [email protected]
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>>50314702
Yep.
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>>50314716
Wait we have four years of downtime? Should I not make her too old then?
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>>50314737

How old is she now? Are you implying there's something wrong with a 30+ year old woman?
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>>50314752
She's 22 now, but 4 years is still a long time for a caravan guard to stick around town!
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>>50314716
>4 years of downtime

Wow, time to play Wizard
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>>50314726
>Show me what you're interested in, and I'll probably OK it.
The Broken Shackles Homebrew, containing the Unchained Fighter/Cavalier/Gunslinger.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUevSnzc65Xw2cx3ah7iL7s1BBx0bVeF8xKlL0uFIcQ/edit?usp=sharing
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>>50314676
I started mine at 12th, and it's at 17th now. So whoever started high level, what kinds of encounters do you like hammering demigods down with?
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>>50314777
Warning, I am the guy who created these. Playing them is partially to help testplay them. In this case I would play the Unchained Fighter.
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>>50314737
The GM might not be fully decided on whether to make it start with Runelords or just jump straight into Jade Regent 1.

Alternately they could just fiat the timejump to a few months instead of a four years.
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>>50314766

Pfft, maybe she realizes how much she loves the town. Maybe she finds someone worth sticking around for. Maybe she finds herself in a physical condition that makes traveling in a caravan difficult.

Regardless, you'll figure out a reason for her to stay. Besides, 26 is *not* old, it's hardly mature!
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>>50314792
>>50314777
Oh yeah, I've read those and I like them. No problem. One of the NPC's was actually going to be an Unchained Cavalier. Thanks for your work.
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Man, I wish the playtest docs for Legendary Vigilantes were still up.
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>>50314343
I played Way of the Wicked to completion, but I guess that doesn't really count since it starts to fail to challenge players around 12th level
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>>50314806
You know it IS around the time of year for christmas cake, anon.
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>>50314806
>>50314766

Oh! Forgot to add, Sandru runs a caravan business in Sandpoint, you could spend those whole 4 years being a caravan guard from Kalsgard to Katheer and STILL end up in Sandpoint for Jade Regent, with a load of (possibly lewd) tales of exploration to tell the group.

>>50314831

Honestly, I just wish more people were willing to play older women.
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>Dm makes thread explicitly about posting characters and shit, and telling people to quit with the ERP faggotry

>it's still happening

I feel like he was preaching to the proverbial choir.
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>>50314806
>26 isn't old
You know as well as I do that it is.

sensei route when?
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>>50314855
Well, what do you want to talk about?
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>>50314855
I just get the feeling not everyone thinks their characters are 'done enough' yet.

I've got everything decided on my Antipally besides equipment and backstory and I don't remember what's best to buy at that there level 3. Should I just slide on over?
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>>50314861
>You know as well as I do that it is.
But I'm 26...
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>>50314855
Frankly I just wish these people would cut it out with the spoiler text, they aren't even spoiling anything
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Tell me about the Chromatics.

Why are most of them idiots compared to Metallics? Heck, if I recall, White Dragons are dumber than most humanoids.
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>>50314861
>You know as well as I do that it is.

I... Actually don't.

Look, I'm going to be frank with what I'm going to say here, but just because a female PC is in her 30s or even 40s does not mean she loses her worth as either a person or heck, even a sexual partner. She could have already had kids, or maybe she's just a career woman devoted to her job. Either way, there's nothing shameful about being older and single considering *most* women in this profession will look damn good at their age.

Besides, if you're that hung up about being barren than a fervent enough prayer to Shelyn might just restart the ole babymaker.
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>>50314855
I am not talking about ERP. I have explicitly said my Dwarf will not engage in ERP.
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>>50314900
Yeah, I'm not talking about you.
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>>50314890
>Why are most of them idiots compared to Metallics?

I think it mostly has to do with them being thrown into the outskirts of society due to being tyrannical monstrous lizards that eat or enslave people.

Brass, Bronze and Copper are explicitly social creatures, Silvers are known for spending their childhoods as the squires of knights or kings, heck Golds enjoy the company of scholars. What do Reds get? Blacks? Blues? Some ragged peasants and charred bones?
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>>50314893
Christmas cakes are just a dated japanese meme. Don't take it so personally.
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>>50314923
I agree with them, though. It's dumb.
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>>50314909
Wait who is ERPing then? And where? Is it in the roll20 threads?
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>>50314893
It's old by the standards of your standard RPG player or weeb, who only want to play as attractive and nubile girls
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>>50314900
>Not interested in lewds
>In a lewd game

Enjoy having zero chance of being picked.
Seriously that seems like a very
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>>50314943
*very weird thing to do

Damnit 4chan space key should not click the send button
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>>50314943
You can be lewd without the ERP.
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>>50314929
What's dumb? The term from a country that has vastly different cultural values in regards to most everything, including gender roles, especially when the term comes from 30 years ago?

It's just an anime meme nowadays, and usually one to create gap moe at that. The "sensei route when?" is a real thing.
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>>50314943
I'm fine with "lewd", but I do not plan on engaging in ERP. ERP and "lewd" content are not the same thing. Jade Regent has a romance system and I have even tooled out my dwarf to make use of it. I do not plan however on engaging in coitus during game as I have seen games grind to a halt. "Lewd" activities are fine as long as it doesn't grind the game to a halt.
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>>50314963
>What's dumb? The term from a country that has vastly different cultural values in regards to most everything, including gender roles, especially when the term comes from 30 years ago?
Yes.
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>>50314684
Yeah? No? Maybe? Is this an interesting concept? Something that could be reworked?
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>>50314965
>romance is lewd
>ERP isn't lewd
So what you're saying is you're fine with immature sexual content for no purpose but a sexual relationship with another character is out of the question. Yup, that's totally the right attitude.
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>>50314970
Then I don't know what to tell you other than different cultures are different and it's not very accepting of other countries to just say "this thing your country does is dumb because my different ideals say so."
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>>50314998
That's okay, not everything of every culture has to be accepted. There are a lot of things wrong, in my opinion, with a lot of places.
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>>50315008
And who are you to determine what is right and wrong of other cultures? What makes your worldview so iron-clad and correct?
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>>50314988
You're trying very hard to put words into my mouth. The game is not described as an ERP game, it is described as a lewd game. ERP is a step up from what I would consider "lewd". I do not want to stop play for 1-2 hours so that each character may act out their own sexual escapades with NPCs as I want to play the game. I think that actual sex should be handled outside of session. Even the GM has expressed negative reactions against the flood of ERP that is coming in.

>So what you're saying is you're fine with immature sexual content for no purpose
And you're saying that describing sex scenes is purposeful? I am fine with sex being something that occurs, even describing it between you and the game master, or two players doing so, but not when it slows down play. That is why I believe it should be done off session.

Roleplay that has romance is more important than sex. Relationships can be sexual in nature without needing to describe the sex. You're the one acting immature in this regard that you associate the sexual act with meaning and maturity. It is an intimate act that has meaning, but does not need heavy description during play.
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>>50315030
Not every culture is equal senpai desu
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>>50314970
>>50314998
>>50315008
>>50315030

>>50315059
(You)
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>>50315030
I didn't say my viewpoints were iron-clad and correct. I agree with the viewpoints I hold, and I'm generally against the ones that go against my sensibilities. Just like everyone else. I'm allowed to say "I think this is dumb" just like everyone else is.
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>>50315056
>I think that actual sex should be handled outside of session.
>Lewds will ideally be kept in private channels (or at least out of the main channel)
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>>50315079
Yes, which is what I am saying. I'm not sure how we are disagreeing. I just don't want ERP to happen during session as it slows down play.
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>>50315056

This.

People don't want sex to occur in the session - at least, they don't want the sex *described* in a session. Even if everyone at the table is fine with it, that slows the game down and ruins everyone's night.

What people expect out of a "lewd" campaign or "ERP" is, in that case, an openness in the material allowed during a session. This can assume any form, from flirtatious NPCs or characters described as being unusually attractive using words and terms often omitted in normal campaigns.
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>>50315093
So unironic cuddling and hand holding?
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>>50315095
>>50315095
>>50315095
>>50315095
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>>50315092
Nobody is saying that ERP will be happening during session, but you seem to still be trying to take the high road by pointing out how the dwarf won't be doing any of it.
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>>50315117
I'm not taking the high road. I'm just saying I likely won't engage in any actual sex, which shouldn't matter since sex doesn't happen during session.
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>>50315105
And describing my character's huge ass shaking
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Do people think it would be too much to ask for husbando options in a campaign that's already supposed to involve some off screen lewds? Like for a male. I'm not keen on letting on that I'm gay because too many gays are attentionfags over it but this seems like a time where it could come up. Would it be a disqualifying thing for /pfg/ to play in a campaign with someone interested in a husbando? Should I just cheat and make my character a female?
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>>50315864
Are you fine with a futa?
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>>50315893
At that point why not just play a girl so the person playing the guy on the the other end doesn't have to worry about the dick?
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>>50315970
No, I mean, are you fine with you being a male and the other being a futa?

Because that's my fetish.
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>>50315983
I guess. Boobs are kinda comfy and they've been okay when my female friends have let me sleep on them? I don't see how your fetish relates to the game though.
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Playing through Carrion Crown book 3 and due to a combination of bad luck and poor choices our party has suffered a good amount of deaths thusfar. With the death of our Human Paladin, Halfling Witch(me) and Halfing Rogue within a short amount of time we all turned to our backup characters we had prepared previously. The paladin became a Half Orc Barbarian, the Rogue a Tengu druid and myself a Dwarven Cleric.

With the new druid on hand the party decided to reincarnate the Rogue and Witch while the Paladin abstained. The previously male Halfling Rogue became a Female Ifrit and my Witch became a Female Undine whilst the Paladin rerolled a Half-Orc Paladin. With our reincarnated characters on the backburner adjusting to their new forms we continued with the story clearing a town of Undead and Werewolves alike only to have the Barbarian die at the end of the session. A quick reincarnation later and our Male Half-Orc Barbarian was now a female full blooded Orc much to the players delight. More deaths came in the following session. With the Cleric and Barbarian dead and the nearest town three weeks away we once again resorted to reincarnation.

Rolling an Aesimir at first the Barbarian burned a hero point to reroll the dice attempting to roll a race that didnt cause them to lose strength. The second roll resulted in them being reincarnated as a female black scaled Kobold suffering a -8 Str drop in addition to now having 4 Negative levels. My Cleric on the otherhand initially rolled an Orc however I too used a fate point to reroll resulting in my reincarnation as a Female Merfolk.

In the space of two sessions our group has gone from the typical TTRPG cast to a monstergirl rollcall.
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>>50317261
Half-Orc Barbarian rather
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>>50313458
No.
>>50313526
Clerics don't need Cha in ADND, maybe if it's some kind of specialty Cleric.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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