MTO Daemonettes

>>50303396
How long are they available?

>>50303420
1 week, according to the email I got.

>>50303396
If you care about them, you would had them before they got discontinued.

Yes I saw that line of thinking in a SoB thread. Poor bastard.

It's almost sad how bad the newer daemonettes look compared to these.

>>50303476
Except daemonettes didn't get axed, they got replaced with plastic, so that's a shit analogy.

Also, just because you buy all the metal daemonettes when they were available doesn't mean you won't get a need to get more of them in the future. Or maybe you weren't into Warhams when they were available?

>>50303396
>buying from GW
Are you a gay?

>>50303396
Four boxes. I already have 20 from a failed noisemarine army way back and 60 seem a solid start to fil a battle line requirement for AoS with three units of 20 each.
Also, four boxes of seekers, because why the hell not.

Now I just need a decent replacement for the Keeper of Secrets, which has always kinda looked like ass.

>>50303576
>60
>not 66
fuck you

>>50303396
None. They're not the old bald ones with crab pincers.

>>50303576
There's always the ForgeWorld Keeper of secrets.

>>50303576
Keeper of secrets have always been a bovine headed monstrosity rather than some giant titty monster.
It's the musk and all the shit in the aura that surrounds it that makes it entice people.

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>>50303652
Yet the official model comes with a non-cow head and art depicts them in different looks.

>>50303396
Should I order 5 or 10 seekers? I'd probably use 2 or 3 for a Kill Team (HoR) and the rest for conversions.

On the other hand, they are £27.50, which is slightly steep.

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>>50303576
>>50303680
Agreed. We need a new Keeper of Secrets.

I can't stand both the old GW shit nor the FW cheesecake.

It deserves a proper model.

None because I'm not a GW drone that eats up whatever they shit out.
Honestly, fucking control yourselves.

>>50303396
30 nets and 10 seekers.
>>50303497
I always thought Slaanesh were about having this fucked up beauty, but the newest models just looks ugly.
even though the very old ones had claws as well I rather prefer the stab arm instead because they look more elegant.

>>50303927
Then what are You doing in a thread about one of GW's exlusive products ? Just to whine about how special You are and bis shit Gee dubs is ?

>>50303396
Two boxes, plus one box of the mounted Seekers. I already have 20 on foot and a single random Seeker, so that gives me enough for two full units of infantry and a small 6-girl Cavalry squad. Combine that with the FW Keeper of Secrets and that'll make a nice fluffy core for my Daemon army.

>>50303927
>GW puts out what people wanted them to put out for years
>being a GW drone

0/10 boxes for you.

I got just one squad of each, would have liked to grab at least 2 preferably 3 of each but that was too much for me to stomach. I'll still have some more daemonettes, but I wont be starting an army out of them.

>>50303927

The best I can give you is a (you) because that's a 0/10 response

None. I already had a dozen from back in the day when they got first released.

But I'm happy for those of you who always wanted them but weren't prepared to pay the ludicrous prices on eBay.

>>50303680
It comes with both heads actually.

>>50303515
>Or maybe you weren't into Warhams when they were available?
I think this is the most likely case, it's been at least half a decade now, right? That's plenty of time for a new batch of rosy cheeked fresh faced grognardlings to get into the game.

>>50303565
dubbz plz go

>>50303396
Are these not available in the US?

>>50305300

They don't do world wide roll out so you have to wait for saturday afternoon for it to come up on your respective country online store.

Why do CSM AND Daemons only get 5 things in total made to order?

Imperial Guard got lots in comparison.

Why is the shitty Emp Children lord there when we could have had glorious metal cultists instead?

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>>50303842
>Dude your mom's here!
>For fuck's sake Carl!

>>50305365
Because people voted for the EC lord. I don't think most even remember metal cultists were a thing. Hell, I barely remember there even being much images of the models anywhere, and I played during those days.

>>50305268
8 and a half years.

>>50303565
the company is slowly getting better thanks to the new ceo but he needs to show the board that his way works better then kirbys way do you want to prove the hero we need wrong

>>50305618
Alpha Kevin just knows what the customers want, unlike kirby. Sure, he is still a businesmann and he wants profit, but he also Knies war we like

>>50303932
yeah, slaanesh deserves something both fucking scary and beautiful at the same time. Unfortunately, this is almost impossible to perform irl

>>50305618
>the company is slowly getting better
How exactly? Models still overpriced rules aren't great, writing and art still at deviant-tier.
And thanks to new CEO warhammer vidya ruined forever.

>>50304010
>>GW puts out what people wanted them to put out for years
People wanted old and unattractive models?

>>50306396

>Models are still overpriced
Subjective

>Rules aren´t great
Still subjective

>Writing and art still at deviant-tire
And yet again, subjective

Great to let us know your own opinion anon.
Another way to write your message, not to make it sound so "according to facts" would be;

"How exactly? I still cant afford all the models I want, and I personally don't think the rules are that great, plus I hate the writing and the new art."

See what I did there?

>>50306432
So after gargling horse cock for 2 weeks you finally take a 1minute break and this is what you have to say.... There's a reason you are kept in the pig pen...

>>50306515
Amazing post brother, you sure showed him!

>>50306396
Bringing back old models
Reviving old armies
Revitalizing white dwarf
Encouraging more hobby oriented sites
Creating things like Regimental Standard
BFG, Death Wing and Total War
Listening to the player base
Releasing bundles like the BaC, BoP, Start Collecting and the new Battle Force
Models: Genestealers, Skitarii, Thousand Sons, Sylvanneth, Custodes/Sisters of battle

And thats off the top of my head, you cynic

>>50306525
eric, simply eric

>>50306581
The only thing GW has ruined so far is ending their contract with Fantasy Flight which literally kills of 40K/Fantasy RPG, Card Games and some Board Games.

I doubt GW will do anything to continue support any of the FFG products.

>>50306589
It's spelled with a P and not R...

>>50306515
The overall art quality has massively fallen, there is no excuse for that. Some of the books are just lazy and embarrassing from a company that used to have overall excellent art. They also hardly ever draw things they don't have models for which is awful.

Also defending a company that is actively trying to price itself out of the market is stupid.

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>>50306515
>Subjective
Yeah sure 100 USD for 3 poorly sculpted models and 30+ USD for individual model great price policy.
>Still subjective
Rules still "pick formation2win".
>And yet again, subjective
Sure.
>See what I did there?
Show me the power of your denial?

>>50306638
they did it because they are now making board games in house, so they wanted the liceanse back.
Not sure what they intend for RPGs though. They might make something inhouse, or maybe not.
Board and Card games are a small price to pay of specialist games coming back

>>50306652
>used to have overall excellent art
Nostalgia filter there.
There was some excellent art. And some awful shit.
But people don't save and repost the awful shit, and so it doesn't get remembered.

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>>50306581
>Bringing back old models
It's supposed to be good?
>Reviving old armies
Such as..?
>Revitalizing white dwarf
It's still brochure.
>Encouraging more hobby oriented sites
You mean what?
>BFG
Empire at War released 10 years ago.
>Death Wing
Level design from Wolf3D + lack of different enemies (because GW selling license for other races separately like DLC).
>Total War
Dead modding, thanks for new CEO paranoia (no global mods, no models import).
>Listening to the player base
I never heard that playerbase asked for higher prices and low quality.
>Releasing bundles like the BaC, BoP, Start Collecting and the new Battle Force
Still useless for the game.
>Models: Genestealers, Skitarii, Thousand Sons, Sylvanneth, Custodes
Well yeah, skitarii was good, but other, seriously?
>Sisters of battle
Wut?

I don't have any kind of chaos army nor do I know their rules. How many daemonettes would I need at minimum to make buying any worthwhile?

>>50306726
>Board and Card games are a small price to pay of specialist games coming back
Well nope, FFG made high quality rules and games, GW making low quality games.

>>50306778
>complains about high model costs
>says all the options for getting a lot of models at a low cost are useless for the game.

>>50306794
10

>>50306809
>>says all the options for getting a lot of models at a low cost are useless for the game.
Well yes, all big boxes useless, thanks for great rules.

I just bought recasts for a fraction of the price. I have about 30 right now.

>>50306802
>>50306802
Silver Tower, Blood Bowl, Space Hulk, rumors of Necromunda and Mordheim.

FFG makes their share of flops too. Chaos in the Old World was bad, Eldar Sign is meh.

>>50306638
FFG started competing with GW more directly. It's regrettable, but hardly surprising.

>>50306559
Thats how I roll baby!

>>50306667
>>50306638


Again, its still all your own personal opinions you post here anon´s. If you cant see that, I cant really help you. I know you both want to believe its the "truth", because you posted it as such, but I'm afraid its still just your own opinion.

As for the art, that entirely up to the person who views it. Do I think its good? Some are, some ain't. Do I have any imagination that my viewing of what is good and what is not, have any substantial value as "facts"? No, because I'm not an art critic, and I know its just my opinion as such.

And while you might think its expensive, others may not. Some people have no need to get a 4k army on the table stat, but enjoy this hobby using a simple budget. Some people are just in it to paint, and settles for a box a month. Some people earn more money then you. I mean, the arguments against your "facts" is endless.

Same applies to your opinion on the rules. Simply because you think everyone who played this game, view it from your perspective. "you can only win if you pick the right formation!", well.. Ill hit you with this, what If I'm not in it to win? What If I'm simply playing the game to socialize with fiends, or to build deep scenarios, or don't even play with points (as the game was meant to be), or if I just do it as a fun factor but my true hobby is painting. Again, the arguments against your "facts" are endless, to the point of making you look silly.

Now I'm all for posting your own personal opinions of the game you enjoy, and all your thought of what is right and wrong in the matter. But please, do it with some class of admitting its your opinion, not the "facts" laid down on the table.

*tip of the hat

>>50306839
>Silver Tower
Overpriced Descent with worse rules, no thanks.
>Blood Bow
I loved BB, but shit, ruleset is just old and clusmy and 100USD fro board game?
>Space Hulk
If rememeber correectly the last version was published during the Kirby, no?
>rumors of Necromunda and Mordheim.
>rumors
Here is your problem.
Also, both of them weren't good games, they were just light modification fo 40k and WHFB core rulesets.

>>50306868

Meh, second paragraph meant for >>50306667
and >>50306652

Not >>50306638

>>50303396

Got 20 for my summoning factory.
Psykana division should bring them out fairly easily.

>>50306868
>I don't have any arguments, so I will keep posting the same post about "it's just your opinion, stop talking bad about GW"

>Now I'm all for posting your own personal opinions of the game you enjoy, and all your thought of what is right and wrong in the matter. But please, do it with some class of admitting its your opinion, not the "facts" laid down on the table.
Unlike you I knew flaws of my game.

>>50303396
I already was lucky enough to have an old metal squad.

And honestly, I just bought that for the sake of having it. I don't even play Chaos or Daemons - at best I might bring out one of the girls if a librarian gets possessed or something.

Great butts though. Like, holy fuck, anyone who says GW can't sculpt females would take it back upon gazing at those asses.

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>>50306919
>would take it back
Nope :3

>>50306908

So your saying, a player who decides to play for fun. He simply enjoys the game for what it is, and has no interest in breaking the game (which is so easy a 7 year old could potentially do it), has no right to think its a good game?
See, for that person, it is a good game, how ever you argue, because it fills his needs.

I get it, you wont buy that your opinions are in fact just that, personal opinions. And I get it, you will still argue that your thoughts are facts no matter the comeback. I just personally think your wrong in the matter.

>>50306991
>So your saying, a player who decides to play for fun.
Give definition of "fun", please.
>has no right to think its a good game?
Without any explanation or arguments? Nope.
Also, he says nothing about "fun", he literally says"lolno, you are wrong, it's just your opinion, everything is great la-la-la"

>>50306859
>FFG started competing with GW more directly
Irony, but with all those Specialist Games reboot it looks like GW really fearing to make new BFG, because they cannot compete with FFG.

>>50307125
>>>/v/

>>50307125
>Give definition of "fun", please.
different anon, but here you go
noun
1.
something that provides mirth or amusement:
A picnic would be fun.
2.
enjoyment or playfulness:
She's full of fun.

>>50306880
>If rememeber correectly the last version was published during the Kirby, no?

Weren't all of them?

>>50307407
Okay, where is
>mirth or amusement:
or
>enjoyment or playfulness:
In poor quality and high prices?
>>50307462
The point was that Space Hulk was never closed.

>>50306802
>FFG made high quality rules and games
Look at their WHFB RP and try saying that again with a straight face.

>>50307480
>and try saying that again with a straight face.
And I will say it again, their addons for 2nd edition were great and GW board games sucks.
Problems Matt?

>>50307476
You were asking for the definition and i gave it to you, i never really cared about the discussion between you and that other anon.

Anyway, all of my GW stuff is at least higher middle class ( 6,9/10) quality, but yeah, the prices are higher than i would like them to be. In my opinion WH40k is more fun than Warmhordes and Infinity, but i am probably biased, i admit that.

>>50306515
>>50306868
>writing and art quality are subjective
You can't be this retarded, surely? Have you had an overdose of AoS?
I agree that GW is looking up at the moment, but hell, there IS criteria for judging art and writing. Most of the new art is just shit. To show something is lit, they just paint white, or mix the overall colour with white. That is NOT how light & colour work, and is a trademark of low skilled painters.

And don't get me started on the writing. It's never been amazing, but lately is even more of a teenage mary sueish power fantasy.
The relativism you are trying to build your defense on was debunked long ago.

>>50307254
>cannot compete with FFG
cannot compete with the Star Wars license.

ftfy

>>50307558
>In my opinion WH40k is more fun than Warmhordes and Infinity,
What exactly you finding more fun? Just curiosity, nothing more.
>>50307571
There wer a lot of Satr Wars games before FFG, but only FFG made real "GW killer", so I think FFG make something right.

>>50307514
Its rules are an unbalanced clusterfuck that would have Matt raise eyebrows. A level 1 Ironbreaker is virtually unkillable unless the DM draws one of those bullshit insta-kill critical injury cards.

Speaking of which, critical injuries ran the gammut from 'slight debilitation' to 'completely useless to the rest of the party and nigh-impossible to get rid of' or even 'you're dead, fuck HP' based purely on chance. They were shit and the definition of not fun.

The game's dice mechanics are cool though.

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>>50307565
Most of the art from the Sylvaneth book is outstanding. But that's the only recent GW book I've bought.

>>50307590
>What exactly you finding more fun? Just curiosity, nothing more.
Not that anon, but for Warmahordes the community is just terrible and Infinity has rather stale lore. Even the bland tripe of AoS puts more effort in trying to make the world feel alive than Infinity does.

>>50307615
Is that hijab?
>book is outstanding
Excuse me, but it's generic as fuck, there is literally soulless without any piece or fraction of individuality,
Also, nice Anub'arak
>>50307619
>but for Warmahordes the community is just terrible
It's more sport-focused, but nothing else.
>and Infinity has rather stale lore.
Explain please.
>Even the bland tripe of AoS puts more effort in trying to make the world feel
Yeah "here lava/ice/light world" setting in another Space Marines novel much better than usual sci-fi with 80's cyberounk and anime influence.

>>50307661
>Is that hijab?
>>book is outstanding
>Excuse me, but it's generic as fuck, there is literally soulless without any piece or fraction of individuality,
>Also, nice Anub'arak

Ah. So I see we're just shitposting. Well, carry on then.

>>50307672
>Ah. So I see we're just shitposting.
Why? How your picture supposed to show the great GW artwork?

>>50307590
i hope i am not mixing things up, but there are three things that i really dislike. The first thing is that you dislike is the fact that you dont make your own saving throws, the second is that i dislike most of their miniature, they look strange and comic like ( a problem some GW models also suffer from ) and the third is the Meta. All Warmhordes i`ve met so far were try hard Powergamers and also " that guy`s" who just played the game to show how much they dislike GW and how much better they are. My local 40k meta is pretty friendly compared to that.

Unlike Warmhordes infinity was fun, but i only played 3 games. The minis were actually good looking, more or less on par with GW, but i had less fun with infinity because it didnt felt as good as 40k does. I know thats pretty much the worst argument ever. Infinitys background is kinda generic ( as far as i know ) and i really like narrative games, maybe thats why it was less fun

>>50306972
Ugh, look at those ugly things. So overdesigned. The actual Daemonettes have a lot more smooth skin and cloth, not all the grossly ornate metal.

>>50307661
>It's more sport-focused, but nothing else.
Maybe your local community is better, but mine is filled with a crowd that cares about winning and nothing else. Can't even have a fun conversation about the world, since nobody reads the lore, and gods forbid you don't paint your army in the standard colours.

>Explain please.
There's... a shell of a story, but nothing really done to expand on it, draw me in. Maybe the RPG will change that, but so far the world just doesn't really have an appeal to me. There's a lot of names and places, but they all just seem detached from one another rather than create a narrative.

>Yeah "here lava/ice/light world" setting in another Space Marines novel much better than usual sci-fi with 80's cyberounk and anime influence.
At least there I've actually been able to read a couple of stories in the world. It's a pale imitation of the depth that WHFB has, but even that pale imitation is more than I got out of Infinity.

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>>50307590
There was one minis game. WotC's "Star Wars Miniatures" game with its absolutely god awful miniatures.

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>>50307661
>Excuse me, but it's generic as fuck
I dunno. I absolutely love stuff like this. GW isn't the first to do "Angry Dryads" but this is hardly rote fantasy fare.

>>50307867
dem tree tats

>>50307713
>s, the second is that i dislike most of their miniature, they look strange and comic like
Yes, pretty typical thing in most of american fantasy.
>All Warmhordes i`ve met so far were try hard Powergamers
Well the game is made for it, for cool and interesting battles.
>Infinitys background is kinda generic
Yes, but actually no, they just focused on more fresh references than original 40k, but hey it's 2016, Appleseed, GiTS already old.
And after all there is no such things as a lot of classic cyberpunk settings.
>and i really like narrative games
You mean what? IMO but Infinity provides one of the best narrative games, rules interesing and almost always allow you to use likeable units.
>>50307788
>but mine is filled with a crowd that cares about winning and nothing else.
It's wargames, not RPG.
>>50307788
>but nothing really done to expand on it, draw me in.
Irony, but you almost described my experience with new GW novels, "just bunch of generic decoration which would be totally irrelevant for the plot and setting once novel is ended", except the fact that CB didn't publish novel to expand the setting, but unlike GW there are few really important places in setting, and the whole setting much more local or smaller without shitton of noname cloned planets.

>>50307901
>Well the game is made for it, for cool and interesting battles.

Is it really cool and interesting if everyone and their mother used the same 3 lists with little to no difference ?

>>50307901
>It's wargames, not RPG.
Maybe for Warmahordes, but when I talk with 40K players I can spend hours just chatting about the lore. I like chatting about lore.
>but unlike GW there are few really important places in setting
That might actually be the root of why I don't really care for the Infinity world: There's little to nothing to care about.

>>50303932
Excellent quantity selections daemonfriend.
+1

>>50307599
Who is Matt?

WHO IS MATT?!!!!

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>>50303576
Speaking of good KoS replacement, anyone has conversion ideas to make a KoS from another kit ?

I frequently play at my local GW and eventho the manager is pretty chill I would prefer to keep it mostly made out of GW kits.

So far the Skaven Verminlord seem to be a strong contender but I'm afraid it will be too much green stuff work to make it look good, especially with all that fur to trim down.

Any ideas ?

>>50307938
>Maybe for Warmahordes
It's for whole genre, which called wargames, not RPG.
>There's little to nothing to care about.
Yeah it could be a problem since except Paradiso most of factions just in Cold War with each other.

>>50307901
>>50307932
me again, i send it to early

>narrative games
For me narrative games need some good lore and i think that 40k wins in that aspect

>>50307983
Literally just buy the Forge World one.

>>50307996
>For me narrative games need some good lore and i think that 40k wins in that aspect
Could you explain how you are making your narrative games? Army fith their own fluff? Battle with some backstory?
Also, 40k still have shitton of good thing in lore, but mostly it's old parts which lies deep in lore, new one is mostly wasted potential.
Irony, but Infinity making the same as 40k did, collecting references and things from old popular fiction.

>>50307987
>It's for whole genre, which called wargames, not RPG.
And yet, in my 40K community I can spend hours chatting about lore. I can't do the same in my Warmahordes community, so I spend more time with my 40K friends than my Warmahordes friends, and as a result play more 40K than Warmahordes.

Pity, because I do like Warmahordes lore.

>>50308019
I don't like it much actually, It looks like a huge daemonette, I'm more going for something between that and the current GW outdated kit.

Also, the FW one is way too big to my taste and all these thin resin parts look like they would break at the first occasion

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>>50307983
FW Keeper is still the best.

If you don't mind a weedy Keeper, the Deceiver with some nette claws would probably do a really good job and be an easy conversion. The fack that he's floating makes him fit better on a bigger base anyway.

>>50308039
>Army fith their own fluff? Battle with some backstory?
that is mostly what i do. its just more fun, especcialy if you mix in some additional rules fitting the lore. The defending imperial army may take more fortifications while the attacking orks may gain bonuses for every destroyed Sentinel because in the last battle a sentinel killed their leader.
This battles may also be part of a campaign with multiple players, but usually that doesnt work as intended

>>50307987
>It's for whole genre, which called wargames, not RPG.
So why would you even care about which game is better, you have nothing tying you to the games as you have no interest in the lore. It seems you're just trying to be contrarian and say Warhammer is bad with no real arguments, when the other anons are saying that you can believe whatever you want, but this is why they love it. Wargaming is about your guys, their stories, their impact in the world they're in. I want to feel like my army means something and that Captain Obermach of Epsilon Co. 753rd Retandan Infatry Regiment is a real character. Or that that lowly gunner who fought back against against 5 enemies in close combat winning the day can be promoted to Sergeant. Wargames are just lucky chess without a story to tie yourself to them, and honestly if that's what you're looking for chess is the better game.

>>50308121
>if you mix in some additional rules fitting the lore.
And that's why I think Infinity one of the best narrative games, the ruleset perfectly reflects differences between armies and forces you to use it.
>>50308128
>with no real arguments,
My real arguments is simple:
- Rules bad
- Fluff writing getting worse and worse.
>I want to feel like my army means something and that Captain Obermach of Epsilon Co. 753rd Retandan Infatry Regiment is a real character.
But guess what? Your army in army means nothing in setting.
>and honestly if that's what you're looking for chess is the better game
And I playing the chess.

>>50307788
>gods forbid you don't paint your army in the standard colours.
If they only care about winning, why do they care what color your army is (or, for that matter, if you bring one that's just all-black)?

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>>50308095
>the Deceiver
Something like this. I'm sure you could do better.

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>>50308180
>BAIT FOR THE BAIT GOD
Honestly you could at least pretend to try desu

>>50308222
Yeah you right, GW making great rules and new writing is just amazing quality.

>answering the slav shitposter

He is obviously spotted from his poor grasp of English spelling and grammar. Common themes of his bait include how anything GW does is shit, how wargames should only be played WAAC-style and if you don't do that you're wrong, combined with anything else he thinks you may be annoyed by. Do not respond to him, just ignore him.

>>50306880
>and 100USD fro board game?
Clearly you don't buy a lot of board games because that's pretty standard pricing for a niche board game with detailed miniatures.

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>>50307661
>Also, nice Anub'arak
really?

Zero, I am a Tzeentch man. Bought a lil Sorcerer though, shame the other two models weren't made available as well.

>>50307672
He not entirely wrong. The picture he's replying to could come from magic, warmahordes or half a dozen other games.

>>50306667
>punching a plaguebearer with bare hands
There's no way this will end poorly.

>>50308184
Because they claim that painting and modelling my dudes in any other way than the standard rulebook is "modelling for advantage" because "models need to be clearly recognizable" which apparently includes poses and paint schemes.

Not the entire community thinks this way obviously, but there's enough to make trying to show up more annoying than fun.

Which should I get for my army? I'm running a small detachment of inquisition with my Imperial guard.using Warband Psykers to summon.

Play on a city map
Seekers or Daemonettes.

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>>50307983

What do you think about this

>>50308487
Well Tzeenchy stuff is the best as it lets you spam out more and more Daemons all game, until your opponent concedes or you table them or you just hold objectives with a never ending tide of pink horrors

>>50306396
Ooooh I remember you, you were called out for being a whiner from Dakkadakka. It was glorious. Exactly the same argument, just straight up whining while saying you don't want anything to do with GW (why are you even here btw?). An anon strolls in, recognises you, and massive butthurt ensues.

>>50308661
That was Hobojebus indeed!

>>50308252
Do you think if say, someone was to become janitor, he could have a say on regular shitposters like that? I'l seriously tempted to candidate for a janitor post next year, at least to clean up the 40k/30k generals, and to just staight up the baut/shitpost threads, so that we could get some discussions going again.

>>50307661
>Also, nice Anub'arak
Okay now you're just pretending to be retarded, I'd hope.

Unless you cannot tell the difference between a giant three-horned rhino beetle and an anthropomorphic egyptian scarab zombie.

Or are only blizzard games permitted to have bugs? :^)

>>50308322
I think he means the little humanoid eye at the bottom,

>>50308404
As a space marine: he's immune.
Doesn't really matter what: he's most likely immune to it.
If he isn't immune to the plague bearer's, uh, plagues, he *is* immune to whatever horrible treatment is required to kill them.

>>50308490
Not enough skulls.

>>50307661
>is that a hijab
I see a knee and thigh, both shoulders, most of her torso... so, no. it *is* liefeld feet though.

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>>50307615
That one is OK. But feast your eyes on pic related

Hot dayum finally!

When does the offer end? Pay day is just around the corner.

>>50308404
Those aren't bare hands, they're wolf hands.

>>50306778
>didnt like Total War
That game is dope
t./twg/

>>50306432
they wanted models with a decent pose and without the censorship.

>>50306778
>Dead modding

The game isn't even fucking done yet, why would there be modding?

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>>50303396
One set... For research, I swear.

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>>50303932
According to 7e Warhammer Fantasy, Daemonettes look like what they are but use a glamour to appear as idealized fey-like versions.

So the "true form" of a Daemonette is a reflection of what kind of Daemonette they are from an asskissing servant to a fatass to a meth addict to an inbred bimbo retard, which is their scary face which is sort of what the new models are supposed to reflect. Pic basically related, the "true form" of a Daemonette reflects their soul.

BUT

Mortals only see that face before the Daemonette kills them, or if you somehow see their true selves with magic or godlike insight or something. These old Daemonettes are the face everyone normally sees.

So to put it another way: the oldest Daemonettes with the bug eyes and fuckhueg claws and the new Daemonettes with the banshee Elf faces are like what they are on the inside. The ones GW just rereleased are the thing that everyone other than Primarchs, Chaos Undivided beings like Archaon, and certain badass Wizards see when they look at the.

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>>50307725
To be fair, those are the old sculpts. The new ones look like mutation.

Also, their Musician plays the fiddle, so at the very least that single model is superior, and all Daemonette players should have one.

>>50307615
That's not bad, but in no way is that Warhammer.

That looks like the artwork for some game on Kickstarter, or something made by Coolmini.

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>>50311114

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>Rereleasing old models
>Only come with round bases

Its a small complaint, but its a valid one.

>>50311203
GW does not make any game with square bases anymore.

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How long until these come back? Because I'd buy a pack.

>>50311234
Having Daemons with no square and round bases in the box is just wrong.

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>>50311339
>Estimated release date: slightly after the heat death of the universe.

>>50311882
Actually, the ETA is within the next two months. They already shipped half of the minis while they finish production of the rest.

Its Reaper Bones III that's looking to be 2 years wait.

>>50311913
Don't play with my heart, anon. I have $300 of Sisters and Not-Eldar somewhere out there, and I haven't seen a thing since the freebies arrived four months ago.

>>50311938
They previewed the final casting of another batch recently. Troops are largely net, most of the nuns plus the flyers.

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>>50312111
They previewed a small stack of sprues.

I'm not sure that means they're ready to ship my order.

>>50312376
Not ready, but they stated that wave 2 is being produced.

>want to grab these daemonettes
>saving money for Sisters
>Daemons are secondary army
>fucking $40

I just wanted one set of Seekers a e Nettes, but I can't for that price.

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>>50312596
Just catch a few extra shifts and do it. Saw these guys come on sale, bought them and a Exorcist tank, because who knows if the replacement will be as ludicrously OTT. Going to pull a few more hours of OT tonight to compensate.

>>50312712

I don't have that luxury. My job is 40hrs, and my pay is $5/hr less than similar jobs. It sucks.

>>50312596
These are limited time.
The Sisters will still be around. Even in the worst case scenario and they get squatted, they'll still be fresh on the secondary market.

You have ONE WEEK to get your Daemonettes.

>>50312742

I know. The real problem is that I literally just stocked up on paints yesterday, which cost me $60.

I'm still tempted to take a trip and order some from a a place where I can get 25% off. Just hope it applies.

>>50312732
>tfw if your pay were $5/hr less than it is you would be 4chan janitor

>>50311203
I will send you all of my square bases if you buy me a pack of the gals.

>>50312784

>tfw I was making more money as an actual janitor than at my current job until 3 months ago

Why is PA so shitty with jobs.

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>>50312784
Oh. Ouch. Well, you do have /two/ kidneys...

>>50305445
>Call of Duty: Warhammer cover art

>>50311242
Glorious 4/5 era miniatures. That's what's "classic" to me. While those are merely ok, the Fiends that go with them are quite awesome.

>>50312771
You still have the receipt? If online, cancel the order.

>>50313468
Personally, I saw a mix of those minis and the pre-8e ones as classic. People buy a box of what comes out new, mix it with the old. So to me a homogeneous army of models from only one generation looks strange.

>>50309546
Mortuary factory gets me every time.
Sounds like a huge factory, in which mortuaries are constructed, then shipped out around the place.

>>50313488

No, I bought it at my LGS and already used it.

>>50313608
All of it? No bottles are unopened?

Worst comes to worst, maybe borrow from a friend and pay back next pay period. I've done that before, we tend to borrow back and forth on stuff.

>>50313561
I'd assume the Mortuary Factory is Nagash industrializing like the Empire to replace Sylvania because its a half-hearted reboot that's changing almost nothing, and the "Mortuary" refers to the architecture.

Which is worse. Because its not adorably ludicrous, just stupid and unexplained.

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>>50309546
Oof. That is pretty fucking terrible. As I said, I've only seen the Sylvaneth book. Here's its map, which, silly names aside, I think is pretty good.

>>50313662

Yea, unfortunately. Bought what I needed, and every one is open.

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>>50313512
Also, this will always be what a Keeper of Secrets looks like to me.

I like all depictions of Daemonettes. The sexy form is what their magic illusions appear as, the disgusting beasts are what they actually look like.

But the Keeper will always be a cross-dressing minotaur. Because why the fuck not.

>>50313737
Its not bad. But without a map of the entire realm none of the maps seem that important to me.
Its like maps of Nuln. They don't really matter, even if they are kind of interesting to look at.

>>50313819
Personally, I think more Keepers is better than less. More diversity, everyone Slaaneshi player should have a different one.

>>50313860
>But without a map of the entire realm
I thought the Realms were kinda metaphysically vast? AoS seems to be a return to the kind of Michael Moorcock Realms of Law and Order that Warhammer was originally mined from in the first place.

>>50313860
I agree with you there. Keepers are lorewise supposed to look all different depending on Slaanesh's mood when they were created. You could even argue for Lords of Change being different because change. It's really only Bloodthirsters and Great Unclean Ones that are strongly all the same.

>>50313902
Yeah, GW gave some bullshit about them being almost infinite but not. Which is not a value that exists. Which is bullshit.

Its sort of Moorcocking. Archaon is predicted to kill everything and probably Chaos.

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>>50313902
>Law and Order
Law and Chaos rather

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>>50309546

>>50313902
>AoS seems to be a return to the kind of Michael Moorcock Realms
Nah.

>>50314159
They already ripped off Hellfire Peninsula for the AoS box set.

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>>50314217
Intersting, in WHFB priests of SIgmar wear red-steel/white colours, in AoS they switched to gold-blue. Will we see not-elves (highborne, kek) switch to red-black?

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>>50314217
>They already ripped off Hellfire Peninsula
Lolno, AoS box set doesn't have awesome portal and atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gca_alIfxAs

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>>50314349
Based on the Silver Tower look, Elves are going full Eldar. High Elves look like Farseers, and Dark Elves are Wyches.

>>50314443
Is that a female or male?

>>50314467
Does it matter?

>>50314467
Yes

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>>50314467
Female.

In AoS, the High Aelves are High Elf+Wood Elf. Dark Aelves are Dark Elf+High Elf. Wood Elves are Wood Elf+Dryad. Dryads are Dryads+Spirit Host.

So that thing is a Mistweaver with a Teclis twist.

>>50314443
It's more like Dark Eldar

>>50314509
>Female.
Why does she have male hands and chest?

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>>50314510
No, this is. The Dark Aelf.

>>50314524
Because Games Workshop can't make girls anymore. Only Heroic scale derpface dudes.

>>50314467
Elf.

>>50314509
Shit, why all AoS stuff looks like fantasy version of 40k.
Sigmarines - Assault terminators with Dante helmet
Undead - totally switched to necron colour scheme
And now not elves looks exactly like eldars
>>50314534
Why the fuck they replace female witch by male? Is that some sort of SJW, like "no sexual objectification of womans"?
>>50314545
Then why it doesn't look attractive

>>50314585
yes mate everything is the fault of the sjw boogeyman, i'm sure that's it.

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>>50314443
>>50314509
Inshallah! Long live the queen!

>>50314443
GW tasked sculptors to get them something that doesn't have blatant manface. This is the result.

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>>50314585
That's not a literal Wych "Aelf", it's just a Dark "Aelf" hero. Wych "Aelves" are still a thing, their faction is called the "Daughters of Khaine".

>>50314627
Well WE spellweaver with stuff wasn't manface

>>50314657
>staff

>>50314628
>it's just a Dark "Aelf" hero.
Yes I get it, but why they made male instead of witch character?

>>50314585
it's because fantasy wasn't entry level enough to attract new and young players like 40k does so the made it to cater to the 40k space baby crowd. I guess I stuck playing 7th or 8th edition fantasy until they give up on AoS.

>>50314585
>Then why it doesn't look attractive
Warhammer Elves are more creepy and fey than outright attractive.

Everyone loves their grace, but anytime an Elf gives a stone-faced stare everyone pisses themselves.

>>50306432
Hey everyone! I found the faggot!

>>50314695
Because its a different world.

Malekith, now a dragontaur, has full control of the race and doesn't have to compete with Chaos worship, Khaine worship, or Morathi since she has Daemons now. So there's no reason for their society to be split along gender lines, because the only way a female differs from a male to Malekith now that he's post-sorcerer prophesy is that he can fuck the females with his three foot spiny black dragon cock.

Seriously, think about it. To all Elves, there's only Tyrion, Teclis, Malekith, and Sigmar as gods.

>>50314755
>until they give up on AoS.
WHy didn't try other games? Like incoming Runewars?
>>50314791
>Warhammer Elves are more creepy and fey than outright attractive.
>>50314443
>>50314534
This doesn't looks like fey or elegant.

>>50306778
>>Reviving old armies
>Such as..?
Inquisition, Genestealer Cults, Assassins, Imperial Knights, Lost and Damned, Sisters of battle.

>>50314829
>WHy didn't try other games? Like incoming Runewars?
Seriously this, I don't get why people are so resistant to trying something new. WHFB and 40k have always been kinda shitty games, there just wasn't much competition. Now there are alternatives everywhere, and they are pretty much all better.

>>50314818
>It's fantasy, so everyone should equal
Fuck off tumblr.

>>50314839
>Inquisition, Genestealer Cults, Assassins, Imperial Knights, Lost and Damned,
Not even real armies, just small subfaction which unplayable without allies (and usually it's knights).

>>50314860
>Criticises someone for talking about gender
>When all you've done so far is whinge about how one thing is a gender but it should be the other

>>50314860
What are you talking about? Elves were always equal, other than male Dark Elves not being allowed to be wizards or Khaine priests and male High Elves not being allowed to become the queen's guard. Fuck, the old 80's models had females in the rank and file troops.

The change is the fact that there is no Khaine, no queen's guard, and Malekith isn't afraid of Dark Elf wizards with penises.

Learn your lore m8.

>>50314829
I dunno, High Mistweaver kinda does. Its too fucking scifi, but still kind of fey and elegant.

>>50306868
>*tip of the hat
We just got m'lady'd, boys.

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>>50314887
>What are you talking about?
About defending shit designer decision. They could make cool witch elf character, they could make cool assasin, they made male witch. The only useful things here that it will be good for Daemon Hunter conversion (actually useful for my army fluff).

>>50314896
>, but still kind of fey and elegant.
>heroic scale
>male proportions

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>>50314920
Here's the garbage that balances it.

>>50314922
Why not make a male witch? In AoS there's males among them now. Also, I think he's like some witch/assassin hybrid class thing.

It doesn't matter though, he's only really meant to be used in Silver Tower and by people who want to proxy him in their army.

>>50314791
Read your G&F. Teclis, an elf considered a hideous, disgusting gimp by elven women, has some celtic Red Sonia type going nuts over him while Felix is busy wondering where his normal pimp aura went. You're right about the death glare thing.

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>>50314920
This is AoS art also. Which part do you want to live in?

>>50314932
She's got huge meaty arms and a similar monkeyhand problem to the High Elf Spearmen, but the pose, dress, and movement through the pieces implies a sense of ethereal grace.

I mean, <50% is still a fucking F-, but I'll give it the small amount of credit it deserves.

>>50314948
That's because Teclis is an emaciated cripple that other Elves feel sorry for and always want to baby or stay away from. He's not a good measure for attractiveness.
Tyrion on the other hand is Elf Gaston. Too bad there's no description of human women reacting to him.

>>50314920
Undead guys looks nice, but sigmarines, oh boy, they are ruined forver, ONE FUCKING JOB GW! Just steal T2

>>50314976
These pictures just beg for captions.

>>50314962
Did...did Games Workshop finally give a complete Realm map?

Where even is that? Its got bits and pieces of everything.

>>50314871
You've got no idea what you're talking about.
Literally none.
For starters, inquisition have some of the cheesiest lists in the game.

>>50314971
One assumes if gimp boy can pull tail, Tyrion could too.

It's just that human fucking seems to be more of a druchii perversion. Before they skin you, anyway. Or maybe after. Or during. Hey, they're open minded.

>>50314938
>Why not make a male witch?
It's kind of lazy and gay (like AoS isn't full of naked males already).

>>50315016
>like AoS isn't full of naked males already).
Well, yeah. Huge chunks of AoS are Conan The Barbarian/Glorantha. In fact, its fair to say most of it is.

>>50315032
>Conan The Barbarian
Oh shut up, in books he wear anything which will be useful.

>>50315064
Because he lives in a bronze age society and travels constantly.

Armor requires upkeep, and most of Conan's world is perfecting agriculture still.

>>50315064
In the Howard stories he's virtually never naked, in fact.

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>>50315002
That's not a realm. It's the torc/crown of the a titanic giant who is one of the Godbeasts. He was sleeping beneath the earth. The crown was floating waiting for the return of its master.

On the crown tribes of greenkins and gargants live and roam the lands.

>>50315108
...its all just one giant unending acid trip with things labeled, isn't it?

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>>50314962
>>50315108
And from Outland rip off to Planescape rip-off
Is there anything original in AoS?
At least WHFB was one of the first setting who starts use pseudo-historical humans and Moorcock-like elves.

Warhammer was a compelling setting because it was grounded in the Empire and their Renaissance, not-history aesthetic. It was interesting and unusual. Random assorted jumble of warring planes is nonsense and I couldn't be less interested.

>>50315259
herp derp

>>50303629
That one looks like an absolute bitch to transport without snapping any of the flimsy bits.

>>50315288
Not to mention many of the fantasy tropes that are standard in Fantasy, Warhammer invented. Green Orcs, Mezo-American lizard people, and so forth.

>>50303497
>>50303932
I don't particularly like the new Daemonettes but they do look more befitting of Slaanesh than these neckbeard fantasy crab-ladies.
IMO GW just needs to repose their current crab ladies to look a little more dynamic. The floating hair shit doesn't fit these static models. They could communicate the speed and deadliness of crab ladies by giving them poses more like the harlequins with them preparing to lunge forward. Give those extended tibia and metatarsus bones a purpose instead of making them look like tools standing around and scowling.

That and GW needs to learn how to define Slaanesh without resorting to slapping 20+ titties on her and clamping nipple rings etc. She/He's a god of excess and extrasensory not just orgies and torture

>>50315502
>look more befitting of Slaanesh than these neckbeard fantasy crab-ladies
A valid opinion, but a minority one. I think most people would be fine with less titty if though hadn't simultaneously made them so ugly. The smooth, noseless faces are just the right combination of alluring and otherworldy.

>excess and extrasensory
40k has Noise Marines. But there isn't really a fantasy equivalent.

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>>50314989

>>50314818
Did that prophecy ever come to fruition? It bothers me that it seems to have never come up.

>>50314920
I know it's mostly because the context has changed that makes me salty, but I don't like what they did with Strigoi. Turned them into a lolrandum faction instead of vampires on the fringes, struggling to cobble together even a pale shadow of what nobility they'd lost.

>>50315594
>I think most people would be fine with less titty if though hadn't simultaneously made them so ugly. The smooth, noseless faces are just the right combination of alluring and otherworldy.

While it's true that they just look fugly without noses, I think you gotta consider that they're daemons and therefore aren't really meant to be waifus. Maybe GW noticed that compared to plaguebearers, bloodletters and horrors, daemonettes looked oddly too human and therefore too pretty to be daemons. I think the weird faces were their attempt to put the daemon back in daemonette. Personally I think the Masque is the perfect vision of what a daemonette ought to look like: just shaped enough to look roughly feminine and human but also give off the "I'll-eat-your-face" demon vibe

>>50315724
>I think you gotta consider that they're daemons and therefore aren't really meant to be waifus
Daemonettes canonically are in Fantasy. Not so much 40k, but Slaanesh sends Daemonettes as servants in Fantasy to his followers not as warriors but as providers of pleasure.

>>50315642
No, it was one of the many many many dropped plot points.

Malekith was felled in the end of Fantasy by falling and being unable to get up. No wizard involved.

>>50315996
>Slaanesh sends Daemonettes as servants in Fantasy to his followers not as warriors but as providers of pleasure.

Bullshit.

Daemonettes are the foot troopers of Slaanesh in both setting, you lying cunt.

You seem to have forgotten the Vaults of Winter which periodically fracture and spill daemonette hordes at the Woof Elves.

>>50315671
Technically they're still that. Its just that now their madness is contagious and they're self-deluded.

>>50316017
>No wizard involved

Actually, Teclis's spell caused the collapse of the cave they were in.

>>50316023
Slaaneshi forces use them as foot soldiers, but they're also sent to serve in the orgies of the Cult of Pleasure and Empire Slaaneshi Cults.

They're dual-purpose. But in Fantasy they are specifically sent to pleasure mortals, whereas in 40k they're secret corrupter that lead mortals to fall in a manner similar to Genestealer Patriarchs.

>>50316036
The prophesy is that the male wizard would kill him. Breaking his back doesn't count.

>>50316065
This is because Daemons can manifest physically in Fantasy, in 40k they're only hijacking a body and using it to make themselves temporarily real. They have more time to piss around and fuck someone's brains out when they're not struggling to keep themselves on the plane as the soul of the body they're in fizzles out.

>>50316065
You are making things up. They serve the same purposes in both fantasy. Heck, the Silver Knight in 40K had daemonettes clamor over him trying to pleasure and seduce him. In "Shadowsword", daemonettes joined in a bloody orgy with the nobility.

Your attempts at forcing a difference between 40K and fantasy is just fanfiction.

>>50316103
>Heck, the Silver Knight in 40K had daemonettes clamor over him trying to pleasure and seduce him.
Corruption, not unnecessary pleasure.
>In "Shadowsword", daemonettes joined in a bloody orgy with the nobility.
They were summoned, not sent.

>>50316089
>This is because Daemons can manifest physically in Fantasy

Goddamnit. Fantasyfagsa are the worse when it comes to the lore.

Both daemons in both settings can manifest physically. In fantasy, winds of magic and emotional energy sustain their bodies. in 40K, they sustain themselves via warp energy and emotions.

So in both cases as long as excessive emotions of lust and pain are felt, they the daemons can sustain themselves.

>>50306396
>Models still overpriced rules aren't great
this meme is really getting me sick and tired.

the same can be said of Malifaux or however it's written. one single model can range from between 19$ to 40$, if not more in some occasions. and I'm not talking about big models either.
atleast that is the pricing at my FLGS.

Warmahordes is equally overpriced for what you get, and much, MUCH less conversion/customization-friendly.

All of the miniature companies are shit, GW included in this. Stop flinging shit only one way when it's something all of them are guilty of.
>inb4 reaper miniatures while cheap, often times look like potatoes.
>inb4 Kingdom death with their limited way of purchase, which also includes overpricing.

>>50316128
>Corruption, not unnecessary pleasure.

Nope, the Silver Knight felt lust and yearned for the pleasures of the daemonettes.

>They were summoned, not sent.

Sent and summoned. They were fulfilling the will of Slaanesh and needed someone to allow them to get through.

>>50315259
fantasy was just about as original as AoS has been so far, so your argument falls flat there.

>>50316065
If a wizard is collapsing the cave, the wizard still did the deed. That would be like saying it wasn't the wizard that killed a guy with a fireball, but the fire that killed him.

10 box.

I wasn't into deamons back then because I was fapping on ultramarines....
now I have maybe 7k of deamons and no slaanesh, so let's go.

>>50316065
>The prophesy is that the male wizard would kill him. Breaking his back doesn't count.

His back was broken and the Realm of Chaos swallowed him and dissolved his body. Everything that was Malekith was sucked into the Realm of Chaos and unmade. For a period of time, Malekith was no more.

An unknown time later and from the nothingness, Malerion born. With no memory of who he was he wandered until fragments of a past life surfaced and then he met Morathi. At the moment he remembered his past life.

So Malekith died. Malerion was born in his place.

>>50314871
>Genestealer Cults
unplayable without allies

>>50316165
Reaper Bones aren't. Neither are Kensei.

If I'm shelling out $8+ a model, I fucking demand metal. If its plastic, regardless of what kind of plastic, shit better be less than $4.

>>50316204
Except it didn't kill Malekith.

The prophesy is for it to kill him. All the cave did was fuck him up, he survived into Age of Sigmar and in fact was one of the few characters left alive when the world was consumed at the end of End Times

If Malekith isn't dead at the hands of a male elf wizard, the prophesy failed.

>>50316270
>what are production costs
>what is quality over quantity
>what is making a profit on your creations

>>50316239
>And lo, he shall rule with a dark hand and his shadow shall touch upon every land. Steel will be his skin and fire will be his blood, in hatred will he conquer all before him. No blade forged of Man, Dwarf or Elf shall endure him fear. Though will it come to pass that the firstborn son of noble blood shall rise to power. The child will be learned in the darkest arts and he will raise an army of terrible beasts. Thus will the Dark King fall, slain by neither blade nor arrow but by a sorcerous power of darkest magic and so shall his body be consumed in the flames and for all eternity burn.

1) It wasn't black magic that hurt his back.
2) He didn't burn to death.
3) His original burns are healed, so he's not burning for all eternity.

Prophesy didn't happen.

>>50316289
Actually, Teclis's spell collapsed the cave AND exacerbated the dissolution of the world when he failed to keep the Winds of Magic in check.

And he didn't survive. See >>50316239. Malekith died that day.

>>50316305
Really? Because fucking Reaper manages to make subjectively superior minis at far superior prices.

Don't give me shit about GW's plastic compared to Bones either, their shit isn't good enough to cost more than metal minis and the IP isn't worth the markup.

>>50316335
you sound really angry, wanna talk about it ?

>>50316323
Yeah. But that's not what was in the prophesy.

See >>50316309

Black magic has to burn him to death, and he has to burn for all eternity. The prophesy didn't name Malekith specifically, so that whole "but Malekith died and Morelion was born" bullshit doesn't work.

>>50316309
>He didn't burn to death.

Chaos is dark magic. The portal was the sum of it. Malekith was literally burned out of existence by the Warp. His soul spent a whole eternity in the warp suffering god knows what.

It fits!

>>50316344
Not angry, just indignant about people defending GW and pointing to a different shitty company as the justification.

Warmahordes is a shit game for wankers, #shitgameforwankers, and skirmish games like Malifaux by usually mark up their prices to make up for lower sales. Just like how the Mordheim and Necromunda minis were higher than Warhammer and 40k prices.

>>50316345
>The prophesy didn't name Malekith specifically, so that whole "but Malekith died and Morelion was born" bullshit doesn't work.

It says Dark King.

Malekith was a Dark King. Malerion is a Dark God.

>GW does that people don't want
>"they're shit, m8"
>GW does what people want
>"they're shit, m8"

Didn't we get enough of this angst in the 90's?

>>50316359
You can't spend "a whole eternity". Eternity is by definition without end, it has no set value and therefor cannot be "a whole" anything.

Malekith wasn't "burned out of existence".

Nothing mentioned any suffering.

That's Game Theory levels of reaching.

>>50316375
Malerion is still a Dark King.

>>50316165
>this meme is really getting me sick and tired.
It's not meme 100USD for 3 models means overprice.
>Warmahordes is equally overpriced for what you get, and much, MUCH less conversion/customization-friendly.
Yes, but game aren't shit.

>>50316382
Who here said that doing this was shit, other than a few people who like the new minis and didn't see it as necessary?

We're arguing about lore and how AoS is garbage now.

>>50316397
No, Warmahordes is shit too. Its arguable which is worse, I'd say Warmahordes because the setting isn't as interesting to me, but its shit.

>>50316201
>fantasy was just about as original as AoS has been so far,
>source: my imagination

>>50316361
well. usually i am one of this people who defend gw ( not everything it does though).
I agree with your opinion on Warmahordes , its the biggest hive of waac i`ve ever met.
I thing that GW products are usually fine quality wise, but they should really be cheaper, GW abuses its market power to much and they may gain more customers by reducing the prices.

>>50316305
>overdetalization with poor sculping now means quality

>>50316382
>>GW does what people want
None wants to pay current GW price for old models. They were amazing, but today they ugly.

>>50316389
Actually, in fantasy settings like WHFB, eternity has a set value. You have statements like this "He spent an eternity in torment before being set free", "eternities have passed since he bla bla".

>Malekith wasn't "burned out of existence".

He describes the sensation of being swallowed by the Warp as scalding hot.

>Nothing mentioned any suffering.

You think being trapped in the warp as a disembodied spirit with no memory is a pleasnt experience?

>Malerion is still a Dark King.

Sigmar is the God King

Nagash is the Undying King

Malerion is just Malerion. He has no title.

>>50316421
More original than warmachine

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>>50316459
Forgot my picture.

>>50314920
That is shit. Notice how every part that is supposed to be lit directly is white, or is the overall colour + white, and the shadowed zones are the overall colour + black. This is shit painting.

If you bother to look at any decent realist painting from the past 600 years, you will see that something that is yellow when lit is painted say green when in shadow. And no need to take my word for it, you can just snap a picture of your surroundings and zoom in. You'll see that lit areas aren't just "whiter" nor shadowed ones "blacker".

>>50316459
Eternity by definition, no matter the context, cannot have a value.

That's like saying that "zero" means "a small amount". That's not how language works, if it is in your setting you have to literally state as such.

>>50316459
Malerion is in charge of the Dark Aelves, he's a king.

>>50316382
/tg/ is a bunch of contrarian hipsters

>>50316413
>No, Warmahordes is shit too.
At least they give you good game, without shitty excuse like "our rulset isn't for games, it'f for narrative".

>>50316441
>current GW price

I paid 2.50€ more for 10 daemonettes yesterday than what I paid for 10 a decade ago. Don't remember exactly what Seekers cost back then, but even with most forgiving estimated I'd say the MTO box is about 15€ cheaper.

>>50316528
And Grimnir is in charge of the Fyreslayers.

And Gorkamorka are in charge of all the beast races and greenskins.

They are no kings.

>>50316468
Nope. At least Iron Kingdoms was one of the setting with steampunk Russian Empire.

>>50316547
Yes.
Russians anything is not original

>>50316578
Still more interesting than "generic flawless multicultural paladin kingdom".

>>50316585
No, like zombies, russian "insert random name here" has been done so many times that it's dreadfully uninteresting.

>>50316600
In fiction USSR much more popular.
But come on. show me a lot of fictional Russian Empires.

>>50316535
Eh...its an okay game. I'll give it that.

But fuck, nothing I care about in that setting.

>>50316546
Grimnir is dead and was never a king anyway, greenskins don't even know what a king is.

Morelion is king.

>>50316441
the prices barel changed, they merely adjusted to inflation.....
well, a small price increase happend,but you are overreacting

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>>50316585

>>50316600
>russian "insert random name here" has been done so many times that it's dreadfully uninteresting.
Generic soviets, yeah. Largely because of McCarthyism.

Tzarists, though?

>>50316626
WH Kislev.
Red Alert
Metro
Stalker
Singularity
Call of Duty

>>50316894
>WH Kislev.
Yeah and where is it now?
>Red Alert
>Metro
>Stalker
>Singularity
>Call of Duty
USSR

I bought 60 metal demonettes and 20 steeds. Made sure to pick up the Hero on a steed too.


God of pleasure and pain, grant me the agony of pinning 60 arms to 60 bodies and the pleasure to see it done without calamity.

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>>50316894
What if we made Superman....RUSSIAN!

Stalin vs Aliens.

>>50316922
>Yeah and where is it now?

In AoS.

>USSR

Russian.

>>50316952
>In AoS.
Yeah in sigmarines form.
>Russian
Still not Russian Empire, totally different archetype

>>50309546
All the names appear to have been taken from Mortal Kombat.

Not that I don't actually really like the MK lore, but that's supposed to be that over the top.

>>50316939
40K Tau Empire

Killzone

Red Faction

Freedom Fighters

>>50316958
USSR is russian empire. Most famous form.

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>>50316984
Slavic Federation. Beyond Earth.

Ace Combat.

>>50316731
If he gets killed, do we get Black Panthmarine?

>>50316995
No, an empire needs a monarch. The USSR was born from the death of its last monarchs.

The only Caucasian country that can ever be called an empire again is England, and if they lose Ireland they won't even be that.

>>50317037
No, empires don't need a monarch. For example the Tau Empire is ruled by a council of ethereals. These ethereals are elected through merit.

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>>50316995
>USSR is russian empire
USSR is red/soviet empire, not russian.
And Warmahordes Khador more close to steampunk tzarists Russia.

>>50311339
>lust elves
:^)

>>50317063
>USSR is red/soviet empire

And the Nazi Reich wasn't German....oh wait!

>>50315502
>but they do look more befitting of Slaanesh than these neckbeard fantasy crab-ladies.

"I hate sex. I hate life. I hate male sexuality. How dare the porn god have sexy servants."

>Warmahordes Khador
>close to steampunk tzarists Russia.

They look like they came out of a Red Alert game though.

>>50303396
1.
Don't even play Chaos.
I was holding off. Text a mate who used to be local for Uni, telling him he needs to get some for his Chaos.

Then last night someone on 40k general made me crack.

bondage and 6 tits is my magical realm

>>50317090
He is a god of excess. Anything one in excess feeds him. I have no idea what excess has to do with porn. Of all the things you can excessive do, why sex is the focus of Slaanesh.

>>50317072
>....oh wait!
The first, second and third reichs are quite different from one another. Much like the USSR is nothing like the russian empire, beyond the fact that there were a bunch of russians in both.

Are you deliberately being this retarded?

>>50317060
That's not an empire in real life, which is what we're talking about.

Not shitty writing in a shitty setting.

>>50317067
Well, old Warhammer lore had Daemonettes as the souls of Elves that Slaanesh corrupted instead of him eating Elves/Eldar and shitting out new Daemonettes from the increase in power they give him.

Actually, that kind of is the same.

>>50317101
Porn is more excessive than actual sex, since most people will jerk it to far more than they'd ever do.

Sex is one of the primary things that humans take way too fucking far.

Finally, Slaanesh is basically all Seven Deadly Sins. Lust, Gluttony, Pride, Envy mainly. Wrath in his dark moods where he's more cruel than the others. Sloth is kind of left out, unless you count his desire in End Times to leave the world as it was.

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I've already got like 10 I've gotten off eBay, but I'll get a box of these to go with them.

But I really want to get those old Seekers since the new ones look like shit and those old ones are pretty neat looking.

>>50303396
Are these ones metal or plastic?

>>50317410
Metal. It says on the store page.

I just want to know why its $9 per Seeker. The metal Daemonettes are only $4 each.

>>50317428
Seekers are bigger? Cav almost always costs more.

>>50303396
Maybe next time.

Assuming there will be a next time.

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>>50307125

Aaand I'm back.

Well fun, thats part of his or hers personal idea of what makes a game fun. I for instance, sometimes enjoy Warmahordes because I find the game´s steamroller aspect interesting, and sets it apart from other games I play. I enjoy 40k for its deep lore, and because I like the miniatures. And I even play a bit of AoS, because I like the models and the simplicity about the game.

See, in no way is there a "this makes my game best game!" kind of thought. I might have personal opinions on what makes a game good, and vice versa, but I have no illusions that this is printed as "facts".

>Without any explanation or arguments? nope

As stated above, perhaps he enjoys, like me, the simplicity of the game. A game you can finally play just for fun, kick back and play without any long rules discussions or stupid power-list buildings. Just doing it for the miniatures and the fun and enjoyment of socializing with friends.


My initial statement simply pointed out that you, despite you fighting me on the matter, is not God. You don't decide what is right and wrong, the same as you don't decide what is fun or boring. And while you might think the new art is shit, the lore sucks and that the prices are to expensive, this is still just your opinion on the matter, no more no less.

>>50316541
When Seekers were sold in blisters, they were 12.50€ to my recollection.

>>50319017
>And I even play a bit of AoS, because I like the models and the simplicity about the game.
And it's doesn;t make it fun, it makes game primitive with mirrored models.
>As stated above, perhaps he enjoys, like me, the simplicity of the game. A game you can finally play just for fun, kick back and play without any long rules discussions or stupid power-list buildings. Just doing it for the miniatures and the fun and enjoyment of socializing with friends.
You just described the RPG, not wargames.
And I don't get how "rules simplicity" relate with "socialization", mr. normie? If I will want to meet with friends and play some game I would prefer good game.
>You don't decide what is right and wrong
Quality isn't totally abstract thing.

>>50316532

As it always has been. I for one think GW did the right move to launch AoS, even if it was only to ditch its neckbeard community.

What can possibly be a worse fan-factor than a bunch of man-children living in moms basement with little to no money, arguing about "prices today" on the internet while at the same time jerking of to rules.

I'm not saying all hobbyist where like that, but a great deal of /tg/ certainly was. Don't know why they bother ether, most of the guys here don't even play the fucking games, they just comment on whats "good and bad", and give negative critique on wip, even though they never paint themselves.

>>50319089

>And it's doesn't;t make it fun, it makes game primitive with mirrored models.

That, again you Neanderthal, is still your opinion. And your fully entitled to it, but stop laying it out like facts, because you have already been proven wrong by the fact that I have a different opinion than you.

>You just described the RPG, not wargames.
And I don't get how "rules simplicity" relate with "socialization", mr. normie? If I will want to meet with friends and play some game I would prefer good game.

And a good game is all in the eyes of the beholder. I have no illusions that AoS has the complicity of, lets say Infinity, but thats part of its charm to me. That whats makes the game "fun", because it makes me not care to much and just enjoy the moment. And it does relate with socialization in that aspect that you don't spend nearly as much discussing rules and what you can and cannot do, when playing a game that just doesn't have the need for it. You can instead focus on just enjoying the moment.

>Quality isn't totally abstract thing.

I agree. But to claim you hold the keys to say what is fun and not, is not part of what makes quality.