Warhammer 40k General:

>>50270770
>It's Sanguinalia Season Sub-Edition

NOT EVEN DECEMBER YET, ANON.

>>50270770

First for Dark eldar

>>50270809
It's always Sanguinalia season if you just believe, anon.

Don't believe too much, though. You might not like what happens when people think about Sanguinus too much.

File: Dark_eldar_on_raids_by_beckjann.jpg (7KB, 250x158px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 250x158px

>>50270809

You walked into our trap first. You should feel honored!

>>50270851
Second time I've been faster than you.

>>50270875

There is more than one Dark Eldar player in this thread anon.

>>50270875
>implying we didn't let you walk into a trap

>>50270894
Meant Dark Eldar posters in general, not that particular Anon.

File: TotalWarRomanPikemen_01.jpg (7KB, 160x210px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 160x210px

SKITARII

>>50270770

Best Dark Eldar Kill teams?

Im either going 10 warriors with dark lance, Venom and archon

Kinda want to run a Raider with Dark lance instead of a venom but I've heard the venom is just so much better

Hearing a lot of stories on how Obliterators are a bitch to build, is this fair evaluation or am I listening to scrubs?

>>50270828
You've failed us, Kabalite. Stay put, the local Haemonculus will come and begin your ascent into a Grotesque.

>>50270945

Scourges with a Relentless Dark Lance or Splinter Canon is pretty legit. 4+ save at that, too.

people are talking about DEldar lists? noice

what do you guys think about two talos with hoemunculus rape squad dropping via webway portal?

>>50270968

Hey as long as they graft two dicks onto me im fine.

>>50270985
You won't even know what a dick is when they're done with you.

>>50270998

Look I dont care IF I forget what a dick is, as LONG as I have TWO I will be fine no MATTER what.

>>50270970

Relentless Dark Lance? You mean just a regular Dark lance?

Should I take 4 of those?

>>50270947

I dont know man but Obliterators look like just big single models to me.

Try fucking building and painting a reaver with 5 fucking guys on it, shits a nightmare, took me god damn 30 minutes putting all the little spikes and shit on it.

>>50271081

Raider* not reaver, god damn all Dark Eldar shit sounds the same to me.

>>50271081
Reavers look sexy as hell though, I love playing against Deldar

>>50271110

I just build 3 Reavers today, they are pretty sexy but holy shit is it hard to properly position the riders legs properly.

I mean they have a little ridge to put the legs in but it doesnt fit right, fucking took me 4 tries to get them somewhat in the right position and even then one of the legs is still in a weird angles.

>>50271146
I glued the riders together while they were posed on the bike without gluing the hands to the handles then just pulled them off the handles when the glue dried.

File: DeldarREaver.jpg (632KB, 1512x1512px) Image search: [Google]

632KB, 1512x1512px

>>50271176

Fuck I should of done that oh well they are all glued and based anyway.

Pic related, heres the bad boy also I swear I thinned my paints I don't know why they look so unthinned.

>>50271224
I recommend grabbing some medium (NOT water, as it causes the paint to act funny at extreme thinness) and thin down your highlights a bit.

>>50271285

GW medium work? Have to pick up a grey for black highlights anyway, and yeah Its just so hard to make them thin even with the smaller brushes, guess I have to keep working on it.

19th or so for you folks arguing about glue need to get some LOCTITE. best squeeze bottle design, strong AF, cheap..

Remember. If it ain't LOCTITE, it ain't right.

File: IMG_20161116_212341.jpg (80KB, 633x372px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 633x372px

>>50271030

Nah. Take a Darklance, make him your indomitable specialist, and pick relentless. Pic related.

The Blasters are Probably better for the other 3, though a Splinter Canon with Weapon Specialist - Reaping Volley is pretty good. However, then you miss out on a blaster ignoring cover.

>>50271325

Gw glue is the best though, I mean the container itself is perfect in its own right and its only 9$

Why the fuck would you want to buy cheap glue? Hell Mcdonalds hamburgers are cheaper then GW glue.

>>50271337
Or huck him on a ruin with good los and give him ignores cover.

>>50271364

That's a second option, yea.

Anyone know if the Deathwatch kill team set in the Death Masque box is the same as you'd get if you bought it separately?

>>50271337

Thanks Il keep that in mind anon, probably going to buy scourges next, they are just a tad expensive at 80 points considering you only get 5

>>50270947
The resin ones aren't so bad, but the metal ones were a pain with their heavy arms that refused any help from super glue.

>>50271413
Scourges are pretty great in KT because of high mobility, good weapons, and a 4+, which is crazy for Deldar.

Otherwise, Kabalite spam could win just based on numbers. They might not be able to actually kill all your dudes.

>>50271455

Yeah I made the mistake of buying a warrior box before I bought the start collecting so now I have 20 warriors that I don't know what to do with so that might be a good option as well.

I need to make my veterans look like real bad dudes. two meltas, a heavy flamer, all shot guns and something shiny for the sargent.
Priest would be best if I want to get in to trouble with them just for the combat buffs, then maybe a power sword or maul on the sargent.
Or do I go with a commissar? I would have to down grade the sargent to going all gunslinger with a las n bolt pistol but I could go crazy on the commissar, bolter and power fist.

Should I even bother getting into Chaos Space Marines? or am I going to end up hating myself? Notice a gap of chaos space marine players in my local area and no one seems to have any real opinion on them except 'their shit'. I play nids so competitiveness is not really what I'm going for, however I don't want to invest in an army that i'm going to end up shelving after a few months.

>>50271513
Wait a week or two and get Thousand Sons.

File: feelsbadman.jpg (35KB, 395x267px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 395x267px

>all these new battleforces and codices
>blood angels left in the dust
they're going to get killed off or combined with regular marines in 8th, aren't they?

>>50271570

>blood angles left in the dust

Shut the fuck up you guys got huge releases earlier this year if im not mistaken

>>50271570
Dude you like, JUST got a new supplement when traitors hate came out and they've been releasing plenty of blood angel kits. You ain't getting rolled into the Codex

>>50271531
Any confirmation on the new Thousand Sons? I thought we were going to get a battleforce, but those already got leaked.

File: stick.jpg (124KB, 680x759px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 680x759px

>>50271570
Ork player here what are you complaining about

>they're going to get killed off or combined with regular marines in 8th, aren't they?
You guys had a white dwarf codex the fuck are you on about.
You'll survive it

>>50271645
Was the giant Magnus model with Thousand Sons written on the box, plus a plastic sprue confirming at least one other box not enough to confirm it?

>>50271390
In death masque?
Yea, it's the sprue from the deathwatch tac and assault marine boxes, and the DW dread sprue

New leaks? Been working too much, haven't been able to keep up.

Im really wanting to see what i can splurge on this year

>>50271736
Thousand sons are going to be their own codex with daemon primarch Magnus as a LoW.
Sisters of battle coming out early next year alongside 8th.
New keeper of secrets coming out along side a new daemons codex next year.

That's all.

As someone who started playing in September and is only just looking into the psychic powers available to my army may I just say WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK
>Smite
>Spontaneous Combustion
>Psychic Shriek as a fucking primaris
W H Y

>>50271968
Yeah, psychic powers have always been a mess. When you could buy them seperately it was always the two or three same powers all over the place, now when you roll for them, most of the lores have never seen daylight and it's just all-in with gorillion psykers to get those 2 or 3 spells that are worth a damn.

any of you play that deathwing vidya? I kind of want to buy it

the local gamestore has dark vengeance on sale for 65 freedom dollars. I was wondering if it is worth me investing into that pack being a brand new person that wants to get into playing 40k

>>50272094

yes

>>50272094
If you are either into chaos or Dark Angels go for it.

>>50272129
would I be forced to play as dark angels??

>>50272143

Well, they're DA Marines, but I suppose not.

>>50272094

Kill team is a pretty good box set as well if you are getting started

>>50271501
You want the commissar. He's got good BS and WS and veterans are too important to reject cover saves.

Also, how does your sarge get the gunslinger special rule?

>>50272129
Why did you say chaos twice?

>>50272143
No, but if you are a total beginner having to shave off all the molded chapter iconography might be a bit much for the first project.
You could just paint the minis as a Dark Angels successor chapter though.

>>50272205
Swap the chains word for a second pistol.

>>50271484
>I have 20 warriors that I don't know what to do with

Practice your painting and test your paint schemes on them to get one you like.

That way when you get to your good models that you intend to play for a while, you're more likely to not fuck up and they'll look quite solid.

>>50270770

Someone in the last thread told me that summoned daemons could manifest psychic powers on the very turn they come in. I'm going through the codex and the rulebook and I can't find any reference as to whether they can or not, is there an FAQ I haven't seen or am I just blind and missed the page?

Point me in the right direction, please.

>>50272359

>Are they psykers?
>is it the psychic phase?

If you answered yes to. Both these questions, you can use powers.

>>50272397

Even though summoning treats the summoned unit as a deep strike?

I had been theory crafting a Death Korps + Mechanicus army list when I realized they ally as Come The Apocalypse and all my plans went up in smoke.

Onto the next plan...

>>50272500
Do they? Do FW have a different Ally Matrix?

All Imperial forces are BB with each other.

>>50272535
Death Korps get a uniquely shitty allies chart that allies with most Imperial armies as BB or AoC and everyone else as CtA, but neither of the Mechanicus armies existed when it was written so they're shit out of luck.

File: 20161116_191837.jpg (2MB, 5312x2988px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 5312x2988px

How does this Marine look fellas
Base: Lead Belcher
Layers: Gehenna's Gold and Runefang steel
Eyes @ Company Colors: Wazdakka Red
Shader: Nuln Oil
Underarmor: Eshin Grey
Power Sword Blade: Runefang Steel/Wazdakka Red Mix
Primer: Chaos Black

>>50272581
>thin your paints

Really a neat scheme though, I'd add some sharper highlights (Stormhost Silver is great imo) to the silver and small touches along the gold. The sword and bolter should be left in traditional colors, it makes for a better looking army.

Are you making your own chapter anon? Got any ideas for the fluff?

File: Granite Eagles.jpg (22KB, 400x500px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 400x500px

>>50272628
Already ahead of you
They are the Granite Eagles. a Space Marine Chapter that was founded in the 35th Millenium as a of Raven Guard Successor Chapter that maintain a distant rule on a apocalyptic Hive World

>>50272581

>no backdrop
>not cropped
>2.2MB

Every fucking time.

At least you put the model down.

>>50272693
Look pal, I just spent three hours painting it, I don't really feel like doing that shit, not to mention he is my first one ever painted.

File: 1443158729381.png (463KB, 610x610px) Image search: [Google]

463KB, 610x610px

>>50272710
>spends 3 hours painting
>doesn't take the time to make a good picture

File: thin your paints saint.png (2MB, 1125x718px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1125x718px

>>50272581
thin those paints

File: 3722615-2512955077-6fa46.jpg (374KB, 636x900px) Image search: [Google]

374KB, 636x900px

So I'm looking at building a second Chaos Warband and I'd like to make it basically just a bunch of insane World Eaters that chop people up into bits and then drink their blood from their skulls. Is the Maelstrom of Gore worth getting to start with? I figure 48 'zerkers can't be too terrible of an idea.

>>50272760
>How does this Marine look fellas
>Base: Lead Belcher
>Layers: Gehenna's Gold and Runefang steel
>Eyes @ Company Colors: Wazdakka Red
>Shader: Nuln Oil
>Underarmor: Eshin Grey
>Power Sword Blade: Runefang Steel/Wazdakka Red Mix
>Primer: Chaos Black
>He is my first one ever painted.

>>50272581
A bit of the rough and sloppy side. Plenty of texture on the legs that shouldn't be there, the wash has pooled and dried where it rather shouldn't. etc.

>>50272778>>50272786

I said he was the first one I ever painted.

>>50272581
Red, stop it and thin your paints. You have red eye lens on your cheek.

>>50272794
Anon, you're on /tg/. Take your criticism and like it, it's the only way to improve other than practice.

>>50272710

In all seriousness, it's the little things that matter. WIP would get in your shit about it, too.

Memes aside, the paint is thick, but it could be worse. Overall, the paint job could have been smoother.

>>50272794

And we are critiquing you, not attacking you.

>WIP
>>50270647

>>50272794

Are you fucking kidding me

your posting on the internet and people are giving you FREE painting advice and you are being so satly about it.

You want to stay the same with your shitty pant job and never improve? Why don't you show this to your mom and im sure she will only have nice things to say about it.

>>50272807 >>50272827

Your right, I am should just suck it up and take the criticism like a man..>>50272839

>>50271224
The issue is not that you're thinning your paints, it's that you are loading up your brush too much. I personally use a Wet-pallette, which is properly configured will automagically thin my paints for me, simply by putting paint on the palette and spreading it around. But then when the paint is thinned, I clean my brush by scraping it through my water cleaning tub, suckle the tip in my mouth, and then put a little bit of paint back into the brush. Then with paint in my brush, I dip the brush into a paper towel to reduce the amount of paint in my brush to a more manageable amount. I know that sounds complicated, but it will stop people from screaming "THIN YOUR PAINTS" at a model painted with 99% water, when the REAL ADVICE IS TO PUT LESS PAINT ON YOUR BRUSH.

File: YoungRaceCantUnderstandNecronPainting.png (112KB, 1827x568px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 1827x568px

>>50272794
This is what happened when my friend posted the Doomscythe of mine he was painting.

I was just letting him do my Necrons to see if he liked painting but we got a kick out of some people freaking out.

Most were cool though.

>>50272865

I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON I HAD PAPER TOWELS IN MY PAINTING AREA

fuck thats good advice anon thanks, currently working on my second one now so I will try and do that.

Also what is a wet-pallette and where can I get one?

File: 1379726356837.jpg (130KB, 632x960px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 632x960px

>>50272777
World eaters is a path of nothing but pain and regrets. I'm sorry, anon. I want to tell you it's good but they're so, so bad.

They're incredibly overpriced even amongst other overpriced chaos units

Their melee abilities are not hype - they have one attack base, two with CC weapons. After a charge, they lose all power. You will also suffer from casualties against anything that hits at I4 due to furious charge not providing the initiative bonus that assisted them previously.

They have no cost effective and useful delivery method whatsoever. Schizophrenic chaos land raiders are too expensive and will be focused to death. Rhinos are weak, are not assault vehicles, and if they are destroyed you cannot assault that turn. Which it will be, because no one will want to fight your berzerkers in melee.

Their only umph in melee comes from the champion who can be challenged out and killed or cross countered.

They have the same survivability as any other marine unit as a 1 wound 3+ armor T4 model. They just cost more than grey knights.

Please trust me, anon. I too want nothing other than to see berzerkers be good. But I have watched my world eaters playing friend spiral into absolute despair, finally shelving his masterfully painted red killers permanently after the ten thousandth time they failed to kill anything, failed to make it to combat, or lost combat to things they have no business losing combats against.

I hear they're good in 30k now? At BEST you're looking at maybe penalizing yourself by bringing one small squad of them in a KDK list, and you will be hurt by their addition.

>>It isn't zerking time. Not anymore.
>>This is the saddest post I've ever made.

>>50272912
Do you know who Duncan is, and have you watched any video he has ever painted - this is the best advice I can give you because the man is a godsend for beginner painters, I swear to you.

>>50272912
Do people not have google anymore?

>>50272865
I got a brush cleaning solution, I swished my brush in a cap full and then dipped it in my water pot before cleaning it with a paper towel.

File: ran out of fu ks donate.png (60KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 500x500px

>>50272794
>I said he was the first one I ever painted.
anon, yu want some full criticism here is it.
1. paint inside the lines, look at that shit, need i say more.
2. too much fucking wash. It's liquid talent assuming you can get it in the recesses
3. that sword. no.
4. (is that white on the details?, white is difficult to pull off, I build up from grey for a dirty look and to avoid chalking)

Tips
. i've heard it's best to work with the thing with the greatest surface area/ the things you might be most likely to accetently screw
It might be best to go for none metallics a bit more.
look at other companies

>>50272965

Yeah I googled and saw what it was, TG usually has incredibly good advice though so it was more of asking for the best advice rather than taking the top 3 links and combing through them with different opinions.

>>50272912
Okay, here's how to make a wet palette. First you need to buy the following
> Tupperware bin, just a medium sized one
> Paper Towels
> Parchment Paper

Now do the following steps
> Fold up a paper towel until it fits snuggly inside the entire bottom of the tupperware bin
> Fill the bin up to the top of the paper towel, until there is a thin layer of water on top of the towel
> Cut parchment paper into a square that is a little bigger than the bottom of the bin
> Place parchment paper on top of the paper towels, while folding up the edges of the parchment so that the layer of water does not spill on top of the parchment

And that's it. The towel holds the water in to stop it from evaporating, and the parchment creates a semi-permeable membrane that water and paint can go into, but not pass through completely.

If you put paint on top of the parchment, it slowly absorbs water from the paper towel beneath it, which stops it from drying out anywhere near as quickly.. Which in turn makes you waste less paint than you would with a traditional palette. So long as there is a thin layer of water between the parchment and the towel, your paint will never dry out, and the wet parchment forms a sort of seal that stops the water from evaporating.

A properly setup wet palette can keep your paint wet for as long as three days, and possibly even longer if you refrigerate it.

>>50273001

Thanks anon thats incredibly fucking helpful, im saving this so I can try it out tomorrow.

I fucking knew there was a good reason to keep this thread open while I've been painting all day.

Also just want to say a big thank you to TG, you guys have made starting my Deldar force incredibly fun and easy thanks to your great tips. Its been a fucking tough month especially when my girl broke up with me during the Trump election but you guys have made it easier, so thanks a lot TG you guys are the best.

>>50272982
At this rate I feel like I am gonna have to strip him clean now.

Also I don't have white paints and I plus I admit, my hands sook a bit but I tried my best to fix it and I probably went a bit overboard with the Nuln Oil and I don't have anyother colors

As I only have The paints mentioned plus Kivlev flesh for Purity Seals.

>>50273045

DO NOT STRIP HIM CLEAN ANON

your first model is special, I still have mine somewhere, let him be a reminder of how far you've come!

>>50272919
I'm so sad now... I don't even know what to do now...

>>50272919
Maybe 8th edition will fix them after GW gets its head out of its ass.

If I take a Riptide with two of the shielded missile drones, and they both die, do I have to take a LD check for the riptide?

>>50273192
Yup

>>50273203
So if I taking the bonding knife ritual on the riptide he will regroup at normal LD?

What's the point of those drones if they can make your biggest asset potentially run off the board.

File: disdain for plebs.png (203KB, 396x458px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 396x458px

>>50273045
>strip him clean
>not using him as a fucking effigy to your failure.
>not looking at it to make to remind yourself of how badly your need to improve.
As a rule of thumb If you ever reach a point where you feel content about your skills you've either gotten lazy or stupid.
Few people on this board are good painters.
presentable
but not great.

>>50273217
It'll regroup normally without the knife, it won't be below 25%.

just picked up the start collecting: militar tempestus, hell rain brigade best way to run them?
Is it possible to run them alone in a 500 point game? Or do I need another squad of scions for that. If I attach commissar to command squad with FNP guy, does the commissar get FNP as well?
Also, are any of the taurox weapons worth taking in place of the battle cannon?

>>50272873
I've seen him post them since and I fucking love that colour scheme he did. I may or may not have terrible taste, but it looked cool.

File: 1457131313571.png (193KB, 320x350px) Image search: [Google]

193KB, 320x350px

>>50273100
I'm really sorry, I would've felt responsible if I didn't speak up. Choppy chaos that focuses on marines is just broken. There are a few formations that may assist somewhat, but none of them will address the core issues of underwhelming statlines and rules combined with overcosted points.

...If you're looking for chopping marines, maybe flesh tearers? If you want chopping spiky marines, I've got to advise you to hold tight until the day chaos finally gets a new codex.

>>50273243
Reckon the drones are worth it? As good ablative wounds as they are I can't see the risk being worth it.

>>50273281
They're not even good ablative wounds because if you put on two drones enemies get to roll against majority toughness four.

File: BluCron WIP Scythe.png (2MB, 1096x1054px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1096x1054px

>>50273268
He has since moved to Skitarii and I am still stuck half painted Necron army.

>>50273217
>>50273281
They add two t6 4++ wounds on the riptide and two missile pods for extra fire power. That being said they really aren't worth it.

>>50273385
Yeah that was it. Cool shit.

Sell them, maybe?

>>50273313
shielded missile drones are T6

>>50273313
Ah fuck I didn't consider that. I'll just leave them on sprue for now then.

>>50273414
Piecing them out is too tedious, it is like a 3000pt army that I have only personally fielded three times.

When I was building up my Dark Angels I was searching everywhere for a swap but they all fell through even though I feel I was offering a good deal.

I like the idea of having a second army, I just do not like Necrons.

Are blood angels still almost trash tier?

File: Prospero1.jpg (901KB, 1500x1000px) Image search: [Google]

901KB, 1500x1000px

Maximum disrespect
I need to do something like this with a leviathan dreadnought, that model is pure sex

>>50273615
>tfw thess dioramas remind me of the actual size of the models
To think that people paint these too!

Quick question about assault I'm told by the Tau guy I play with that if his models are more than 2" away from the models in base contact during the fight then they can't be wounded even if all the models within the 2" range have been killed and there are unallocated wounds left. However when I watch battle reports it seems like it doesn't matter where the model is so long as it's in the unit that has suffered the wounds and therefor models further than 2" can still be killed. Which is right?

>>50273578
here (you) go now fuck off

>>50272143
No the DA have plenty of fallen chaos marines in cannon. The DV set is decent for chaos as you can add some chaos backpacks, or heads, etc to the dark angels and use it all as chaos.

>>50273735
Any model can die in melee. But models that aren't within 2'' of a model that is in b2b with enemy after pile-ins can't strike.

>>50273735
>Which is right?
>The Tau Guy
or
>The random youtubers

The Rulebook.
Always The Rulebook.

>>50273745
That doesnt answer my question.

File: Heresy1.jpg (476KB, 1200x2400px) Image search: [Google]

476KB, 1200x2400px

>>50273750
>No the DA have plenty of fallen chaos marines in cannon.
NO THEY DONT!
THE FIRST LEGION HAS ALWAYS BEEN LOYAL TO THE EMPEROR!
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, PLEASE DONT LOOK UNDER OUR ROCK!

>>50273757
Ah, gotcha thanks!

>>50273735
Any model within 3" of another model in base contact of an enemy model can attack or be attacked.

>>50273815
You can wound anything in the engaged unit regardless of distance.

Brand new player looking to play space marines as it seems the easiest and cheapest to come across off of eBay. I like salamanders as a chapter I'm thinking 2 tactical squads in rhinos with flamers assault squad with 2 flamers in a drop pod and some sternguard. Gonna be playing around 1000 points as that's what the group in my area plays with. What are some other worthwhile units to add to that list of 1000?

>>50273877
Ok so tacticals in Rhino are good, flamers are fun and fluffy so thats good too.

Assault marines are a waste and so are their flamers.

Sternguard though? Perfect

Give those bad boys Combi-Meltas and a Drop Pod and just fill up your slots. You don't need full squads of them by any means. They get expensive.

Stick a cheapo HQ with a matching combi, probably a lib, with the Drop Stern and you will do well for yourself.

Always take an odd number of drop pods so the larger number comes in on your first turn.

And from 1000 to 1250 you can probably straight up just toss Vulkan Hestan into the second HQ slot and have a good time.

File: Emperor_of_Mankind.jpg (41KB, 390x390px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 390x390px

>Okay, so I’m cheating a little here… but I’ve already read this novel and I have to say it’s easily Aaron’s best work to date. Everything we know about the Emperor turns out to be not quite as it first appeared, but seeing the big man himself finally take centre-stage in the Horus Heresy is really exciting. There are some great new characters, as well as the return of some old faces from the past – quite literally, in some cases.

-Laurie Goulding on "Master of Mankind".

"Everything we know about the Emperor turns out to be not quite as it first appeared". What does he mean by this?

>>50273947
He's actually a girl

>>50273970
Hot.

>>50273947

I bet you the Emp really knows all this shit is going to happen and lets it happen anyway

>>50273615

Man, I LOVE the metallic red of preheresy Thousand Sons.

>>50273924
Assault marines are still a waste of points?

>>50273947
He is Malal. Plot Fucking Twist.

>>50274031
Assault most things are a waste of points.

>>50274031
Most light melee units are. Shooting and heavy melee is just too strong for their niche to be effective.

File: 1476427004881.jpg (140KB, 700x870px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 700x870px

>>50273970
>>50273980

>>50274090

DELETE THIS

File: M42.png (1004KB, 610x1200px) Image search: [Google]

1004KB, 610x1200px

>>50274172

>>50273924
didnt know if sternguard were worth it but thanks

I take the assault marines cause its a cheap way to get 2 flamers in

>>50274090
So that's why she had no female Primarchs.

She didn't want any of them to eclipse her beauty, and seeing as how Lorgar resembled canon Emperor the most, Fem!Lorgar would have been the most beautiful, as she'd resemble the Empress the most.

So I'm building my first box of Skitarii

I don't know if I'll be playing any games with just the Start Collecting box, but it's all I have for now.

How should I outfit my Vanguards? Calivers look cool but that pricetag

>>50274266
Magnets.

>>50274290
How do they work?

Taking suggestions on fluffy ways to have GSC allied with Necrons.

I know I got some h8 for it last thread but pls hear me out....I originally went with Necrons so I could do some portal shenanigans, and since GSC are deepstrike shenanigans: the army, I want to try and roll them into my army without just being lazy and having base GSC "allies" that just happen to be on the same battlefield as my Necrons.

So far I was thinking either:

>Techno-cultists that gain their superhuman speed and agility by augmenting themselves with Necron technology/mind scarabs that were given to them by an Overlord who's essentially just doing it for the lulz, because ruling a dynasty gets boring and sometimes you need some pet projects to occupy your time.
>these cultists would have no connection to GSC other than using their rules, same as if someone made a Catachan or Feral Orkz count-as army (there was some confusion about that last time I posted)
>Magi would be humans gifted with Staffs of Light that granted them Techmagic
>Neophytes would be humans using shoddy necron tech, Acolytes would be mostly humans with Necron/cyborg augmentation, etc

Or

>supercharged Flayed-Ones corralled by their Cryptek (Magus) leaders

Pls no bully, if anyone had any better ideas I would love to hear them.

>>50274290
What size of magnet? 1/8" x 1/32" or 1/16" x 1/32" for Skitarii?

>>50274585
Necrons would never ally with humans, unless the Nids were involved. Maybe. And even then, it would be really limited and likely to end with a backstabbing.

Necrons just don't fit anything you'd see using GSC style rules, unlike Catachans or Feral Orks. They wouldn't share their technology, and anything that got mind-scarab'd would be used as cannon fodder.

It doesn't make any sense, no matter how you look at it.

>>50274585
>square peg
>round hole

Keep hammering away there, anon

File: sexy robot painting.jpg (95KB, 532x1024px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 532x1024px

>>50274585
paint up your cultists like metal men

>necron lord gets the idea to make nu-crons
>flay a human population
>replace fleshy bits with living metal

Asking again because last thread died before anyone gave a fuck:

What would it look like to order all Space Marine chapters available in the TT by their powerlevels, including Blood Angels, Space Wolves and Dark Angels?

>>50274698
SM Codex Chapters

Dark Angels

Space Wolves

Blood Angels


This is codex power levels, not lore power levels.

>>50274698
Vanilla>Dark Angels>>>Space Wolves>>>>>Blood Angels

>>50274593
I have 1/16'' x 1/32'' for tau infantry.

>>50274698
not sure, but black templars are near the bottom while wolves and ultra marines are near the top

>>50274650
>and even then, it would be really limited and likely end with a backstabbing

I mean, isn't that the same thing as vanilla GSC though?

The only difference is that instead of "all hail the aliens from the great dark coming to bring us salvation, oh god wait why are they eating us", it's "all hail the robit overlords coming to ascend us to robo-immortality, oh god wait why are they vaporizing us"

They would functionally be the same thing as GSC in that regard. They would be nothing more than a pawn to the Overlord....some humans stumbled upon some old junk on a deactivated tomb-world, he was able to establish a comm link to start talking to them and promise them greatness if they pledged themselves to him, they throw the world into chaos, his fleet comes in and vaporizes the scraps, cultists included.

>>50274653
Why exactly is square peg, round hole worse than "I'm playing 1000 points of necrons, oh plus this 1000 points of GSC that just happened to be on the planet at the same time and place"?

At least I'm trying to make it halfway fluff.

>>50274585
the only way I could think of is either the Necron manipulating the GSC behind the scenes and occasionally sending a few warriors and immortals to their battles to help out OR a shaky alliance made out of desperate like what the Necrons and Blood Angels thing should've been

>>50274740
Because Necrons don't do that. Nids do.

Chaos does.

Necrons DO NOT.

>>50274734
Black Templars are capable of being exactly as powerful as Ultramarines.

>>50274748
I thought Necrons mostly did whatever they wanted depending on the quirks of their particular overlord.

>>50274761
>no psykers
>no Tigurius
Nice!

>>50274774
this is true. You could probably write up something like "this Overlord enjoys manipulating his enemies before killing them" and then explain how the GSC came in contact with the 'crons

>>50274789
He's not even talking about GSC, just humans using the GSC rules.

File: black templars got their update in vanilla marines.jpg (14KB, 236x354px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 236x354px

>>50274761
>can't use crusader squads in any formations
>no psykers
>chapter tactics rely on you getting hurt in overwatch
>favor landraiders when everyone hates them these days

>>50274748
Necrons are already established to be diplomatic with other races, sometimes.

Necron leaders are established as being tactical, cunning, and master rusemen.

Necron leaders are also established as having variable personalities, like most other races.

What exactly is un-Necron about locking onto a signal from a previously undiscovered tomb world, seeing some humans, and convincing them to do half of the work of purging the humans from your tomb world for you, while your fleet is en route?

File: coolfefe.png (116KB, 500x446px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 500x446px

>>50274796
...
Well I mean you could still do what I said,just with random dudes on a tomb world instead of a GSC

I've been on a 3 year hiatus from 40k and just getting back into it. Starting Dark Eldar with possibly Harlequin allies. Trying to stay realitively cheap to make at least a 1500 list.

Advice?

>>50274777
>>50274808

Why can't Black Templars use Psykers? They're in the Vanilla dex, why are they the only ones not to have them? That's retarded.

>>50274796
All the human-like statlines could be humans and all the monstrous statlines could be flayed ones. The tomb world in question's gotten so totally fucked up that only the flayed ones managed to awaken.

Wow, I can almost entertain it.

File: blackt.png (80KB, 884x392px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 884x392px

>>50274851
wew

>>50273947
I can't wait for the crazy ass spoiler threads since I'm too poor to buy books. I do think it's really nice that they'll give the Emperor some screentime for once, but at the same time, I'm scared shitless they won't do him justice. In a way, his obscurity makes him, even having the fans argue about his origins feels right for someone who's supposed to be a millenia old god.

>>50274878
Yeah, I'm asking why that's the case. They're a codex-compliant chapter, right? Why can't they field librarians?

Do they hate all psykers? How do they travel? It doesn't make any sense.

>>50274889
Because fuck witches
Nikea up in this bitches

>>50274889
Black Templars' defining trait is that they're not codex compliant, their lore being that their the shard of the Imperial Fists that refused to give up the ways of their legion, and constantly catching shit from the inquisition for fielding marines way past regulation numbers, by some counts over 5,000.

>>50274878
>in a detachment
so the formation is still cool
>>50274889
>They're a codex-compliant chapter, right?
whew

>>50274910
Formations are detachments too. But not all detachments are formations. It's soon 8e, you should already know these things.

>>50274266
Just give them both the arc rifle and plasma for now, you are most definitely going to be using more of those in the future, for now, just have them count as 2 arc rifles or 2 plasmas depending on how you make your list.

>>50274910
Are they not?

>>50274907
Yeah, so how do they travel? They don't have Navigators or Astropaths, they can't navigate the warp or send and recieve messages.

Do they just float through space until they find some heresy to purge? Do they have them? They're some real fucking hypocrits then, aren't they?

If they have them, why not have Librarians? They make no sense and are retarded otherwise.

>>50274909
According to a story about them, they're Codex Compliant and have around 1000 Marines like any other compliant chapter.

>>50274943
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Black_Templars

Just read this.

>>50274943
The marine chapter itself does not have a Librarius. They don't tolerate Battle-brothers being Psykers - The rest of the Imperium (astropaths, navigators, other chapter Librarians, etc.) they don't give a fuck about.

The Black Templars are definitely not Codex-complaint, fielding "crusader" squads up to 20 men (10 battle brothers, 10 scouts) strong and as
>>50274909
points out, have on occasion fielded numbers well and above the 1000 space marine limit.

>>50274943
The difference here is in the details. Black Templars respect the Astropaths and Navigators as divinely inspired witches gifted light by the Astronomicon. They get a free pass, the librarians and what not do not as that would be going against the word of the Emperor, who the Black Templars actually worship as a legit god rather than just as a powerful man that many other space marine chapters do.

>>50274951
>>50274961
>>50274963

So they're both compliant and non, have psykers, revere them but hate Librarians because they're psykers.

What the fuck even is this?

>>50274968
It's like you're barely reading, let me clear this up, if you're not just trolling.

Black Templars are not compliant
Black Templars do not field psykers, but respect the rights of the rest of the Imperium to do so.

>>50274889
The only reason they are in the normal codex is because GW doesn't like them anymore.

Hell they are one of the least codex compliant chapters in the whole lore.
>2000-6000 members
>no tactical/devastator/assault squads
>no chapter HQ
>no scouts
>no classic Captain/Chapter Master leaders
>originally a hatred for Psykers almost as bad as for Chaos/Xenos
>no classic strategic tactics, mostly "charge in and fuck things with chainswords"

>>50274943
How do anti-corporate faggots tweet about their problems on their iPhones?

Would you realistically ever take a Chimera in anything other than Multi-laser/HB?

>>50274973
Then why are they in the codex-compliant chapter codex? >>50274975 Is this why?

And that article says they revere the Astropaths and Navigators. How can they revere something they say they hate enough to ban in their chapter? It makes zero sense.

>>50274983
So they're just massive hypocrits?

>>50274909

Retconned by some fat cunt at Black Library

>>50274992
Black Library isn't official, I hate hearing about that shit. Why get rid of the absolute defining trait of the chapter?

File: Smug Baitman.jpg (62KB, 600x327px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 600x327px

>>50274998
>Black Library isn't official

File: Black Templar numbers.jpg (68KB, 489x335px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 489x335px

>>50274998
>Black Library isn't official

Nice lie, fanboy.

I want to play tau.

I was hearing that kill zone is the best entry into warhammer 40k. Is this a good start into it?

>>50274985
To answer the first part: They used to have a codex in editions of a bygone age. They were just folded into the vanilla marines codex for reasons known only to GW.

To the second part: We've explained this already. They still follow the Creed of Nikea that the Emperor passed down that forbade the use of pyskers.

File: hOq7f5o.jpg (588KB, 2880x2131px) Image search: [Google]

588KB, 2880x2131px

>>50275007
>>50275018
Just let it all stop. It'll be retconned soon....

File: Thinking Bait.png (27KB, 527x409px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 527x409px

>>50275019
>Tau
>Kill Zone

>>50275025
>To the second part: We've explained this already. They still follow the Creed of Nikea that the Emperor passed down that forbade the use of pyskers.

But they have ships that can only function through the use of Psykers. Why are they there if the Emperor forbade Psykers?

>>50275019
You mean kill team, right?

>>50274984
Autocannon / HB
or Hull heavy flamer if it's likely going to be dropping off something like Melta-armed vets and you need to flame encroaching infantry.

>>50274931
I'm torn now

On the one hand, I see the benefits of magnetizing them

On the other hand, this is my first time modeling and that seems like a big step when I've never actually done this before.

On a third hand, I don't actually have any magnets and apparently 1/16x1/32 is the size I need? But they're almost impossible to find for a reasonable price.

On a fourth hand, I'm pretty sure if I just did what you're talking about nobody would ever cause a fuss and it would be totally irrelevant.

Someone also told me that if I just use regular super glue if I take a model, put it in the freezer for a while then twist the glue should snap, right? I've never actually tried freezing superglue so I don't know if it makes sarin gas or or actually works.

>>50275051
The decree says that no psykers in the ranks of the SM, not forbidding psykers who are vital to the Imperium.

>>50275051
The part that says the CHAPTER can't have pyskers. Other people having pyskers? Sure, that'll work.

It's a technicality to get out of the fact that without all the pysker bullshit the Imperium would have zero long-range travel of any kind that is semi-reliable. Besides the rest of the Imperium at large pretty much ignored the edict anyway so it's a pretty moot point.

>>50274984
I like to rock the Autocannon on mine
But I also run as many Autocannons as physically possible

>>50275079
>>50275086

So to sum up, they're massive hypocrits but so was the Emperor and pretty much the entire Imperium?

>>50274585
I think the concept is really forced and silly but for what it's worth I'd suggest (at a stretch) a Necron Overlord using Mind-shackle Scarabs to take control of/infect the Patriarch and thus the Cult itself.

>>50275109
Again, he means regular humans, using GSC rules, not actual Cultists.

>>50275102
In case the BL hasn't painted it adequately enough for you yet, the Emperor was actually retarded

>>50274585
>>50275109
That said it still wouldn't solve the "Why the fuck would a Necron bother doing this?" side of things when he could just as easily kill them.

>>50274929
>in a detachment of black templars
being the key here anon
just say they aren't black templars but some other chapter

>>50275102
The literally only reasons they dont kill every single psyker the BT run into, includig navigators and other librarians, is
1) they need to use navs to get to more xeno slaying quicker or at all
2) they don't want to get into a blood feud with anohter chapter

They originally couldn't even ally with an army containing psykers and would rather leave their cousins for dead than help psykers out.

>>50275135
Check out my BT list:
Black templars CAD:
Chaplain
2xCrusader squad

Dark angels librarius conclave
Imperial knights Baronial court
Tau Empire Riptide wing

File: marine.jpg (133KB, 1024x1005px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 1024x1005px

Just finished my first model, how'd I do? Not so good, I think. Advice?

>>50275120
Ah. I guess if he wants to put in the effort of converting Flayed Ones with guns or something for the Hybrids and such.

>>50275195
[insert bait.jpg]

>>50275195
Should've waited longer before trying.

>>50275195
THIN

>>50275195
Is that ultramarine?

>>50275195
YA

>>50275195
PAAAINTS

>>50275217
>>50275228
>>50275240

I think it's safe to say that he does.

http://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/11/14/my-first-model-part-1-our-own-duncan-rhodes/

Speaking of chapter tactics n stuff:

What are the chances of a Blood Ravens chapter tactic in 8e if tactics are still around as is? They've gotten real popular after all.

>>50271307
Yeah it works fine, but kind of over priced.

Rubbing alchohol will also work, or if there is a generic model shop, they should carry acrylic thinner which works very nicely. Better consistency and paint flow.

Bare in mind that Citadel's "Lahmian Medium" literally translates to "Snake Oil".

>>50275070
make it easier on yourself, just put those fancy guns on your dudes and make them shoot the bad men. No one will care if you tell them they are both the same special gun, especially in the same squad, they look pretty similar to begin with

>>50271673
That just had a full on revamp codex. Blood Angels 7th Red Thirst edition.

That's 2 7th edition codices.
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/codex-blood-angels-red-thirst-edition-tablet.html

So I'm going to play kill team tonight. Never played. Playing nids. Is 20 termagants and 20 hormagaunts a legal list? I'm a bit confused.

>>50275386
Are they below 200 points? Have you given 3 specialties and selected a leader?

If yes, then it's legal to play! And you likely have a pretty great chance of winning, provided you don't face another horde.

>>50275386
If it's under 250pts, yes. Though lack of Synapse is going to fuck you up harder than the enemy will since you'll be making leadership tests for all 40 of those fucks individually.

>>50275406
Kill Team standard is 200pts, not 250.

>>50272486
Where does it state that psykers can't use their powers on the turn they arrive from reserve?
I've never been made aware of that or looked.

40k g, would you sperg out if I rocked up with a dakkafex that had sycthing talons on for looks and two devourers on each arm?

Basically if i told you at the start of the game the talons are just for looks and it is really a dakkafex would you get a alpine and demand it is sycthing talons w devourer?

I'm fairly sure it's legit because of the "counts as" rule.

This might be a really obvious question, but can assaut termies actually assault the turn they deep strike in?

>>50275429
No they can't. It's really gay.

>>50275386
if it's equal/under 200 points it's legal but the instinctive behavior is is gonna be a bitch. you have to roll for EACH MODEL INDIVIDUALLY EVERY SINGLE TURN. so enjoy taking for-fucking ever.

>>50275412
I realized that after I already posted, that was my bad. Really though, he should include something like some warriors just to get some dudes who have a multiple shot weapons. It's the only place I've found heavy bolters actually turn out to be good and not just painfully average.

>>50275404
>>50275406
Yes each of those squads comes to 100pts each. Can a random one be the leader? Or do I drop 50pts and have another model?

>>50275439
I'd just roll 20 at once, fuck it. It's pretty much exactly the same as rolling individually and saves a FUCKLOAD of time.

>>50275426
Doesn't smash give you better ap on melee anyway?

>>50275441
Yes, a random one can be leader. He gets a table to roll on in the book.

>>50275461
Ok cool. Well then I'm thinking maybe it's better if I ran a warrior brood and 20 hormagaunts? Or is it better to go all melee or all shoot?

>>50275436
Why does GW hate everything melee so much in 7e anyway? Drop pod troops can't assault, termies can't assault, you can't run and charge, meaning your pure melee units might not be able to do literally anything for 2/4 phases other than dying to overwatch after failing a charge and half the melee weapons don't actually add any strength to its user's power, making the use of 2 chainswords worse in every single regard than the use of a sword and a pistol.

>>50275474
Take both lists. Kill team games are pretty fast, you can probably play several of them in on night.

File: bait.png (6KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 225x225px

>>50275175
>Running a riptide wing and knight court
Here is your (you) now fuck off

>>50275195
So i'm guessing the lore of this chapter is that they have to go through molten lava as part of their initiation? Sweet.

>>50270770
>that op image
>Never noticed Creed slowly creeping into the foreground, as guardsmen and other imperial units are brought in on the sides
>filthy xenos and heretics flanked on all sides now

CREEEEEEEEEEEED

>>50275488
Also, pretty much no dedicated melee infantry that isn't a character has a better WS than a normal trooper.

A member of the chapter's Honor Guard, some of the most prestigeous marines in the army and pretty much supposed to be their best swordsmen only second to champions and leaders have a weapon skill equal to their scouts, which are usually akin to recruits and marines in training.

>>50275521
No...?

>>50275490
Ok I will just pack my case full of stuff. I've just never really played properly before and i don't want to slow everyone down.

>>50275528
it's Eisenhorn

>>50275454
how do you determine which results affect which models?

>>50275572
it's the perfect cover

>>50275573
Number the dice and model.

>don't update battlescribe on phone because 2.0 sucks
>accidentally click yes to "Wanna patch data files?"
>patches
>every single army list corrupted
>half the shit is missing now
>no way to get old data files back

2.0 was worse than the holocaust

>>50275603
You can redownload the old files

>>50273001
>Haven't painted in 4 weeks
>Left the parchment in my wet pallet with lid on
>about 5 different areas with paint on from old parchment
>take lid off
>paint still wet and usable

holy fuck

>>50275630
Just downloaded the last old data file, shit is obviously still corrupted and I can't select a force type trying to create a roster, even after a clean install.

How the fuck can they wreck their own shit so badly?

>>50275131
I already explained why >>50274740

Necron Overlord sweet talks some dumb humans into weakening the human population on an inactive tomb world, so that he can steamroll in and reactivate his robobros.

It works out so well the first time that he does it again at the next tomb world.

This could also be a decent explanation for aberrations and acolytes, now that I think about it. Eventually, instead of just vaporizing all the cultists, Necron Overlord starts experimenting on his new subjects, basically for the lulz.

So it would be

>Neophytes- human techno cultists
>Acolytes- (human science)cyborg techno cultists(kit bashed with either Flayed Ones or admech/skitaari, whichever looks cooler)
>Aberrants- Necron science cyborg monstrosities
Pureblood Genestealers- supercharged >Flayed Ones if I ever wanted to use them, but probably just won't use them because Flayed Ones don't really fit

>Magus- human cultists too pussy to go full robot, who instead like to hoard necron tech.

>Primarch- special snowflake OC, the first successful human-to-necron experiment

File: taufagsbtfo.png (118KB, 1199x493px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 1199x493px

just a reminder this is in the brb.
>>tfw nids don't have a single gargantuan creature

File: 1398796139286.jpg (45KB, 315x308px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 315x308px

>>50275780
I cant even feel mad anymore. Only sad.

>>50271676
No.

They could be the smallest minidex to date.

File: 1444680046212.jpg (23KB, 356x256px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 356x256px

>>50275780
>when you play tyranids and the tau player has more monstrous ""creatures"" than you do

File: The Necron Threat 1.jpg (1MB, 2048x1566px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2048x1566px

>>50275755
Necron worshiping cults are a thing in the fluff and have been for a long time. Even in recent Picture related.fluff.

Why didn't you post this and ended this sorry debate?

>>50275815
Luckily there's also accurate rumours pointing at a dual kit Melee/Shooty Rubrics and at least one kind of Terminator Rubrics, so there's at least those, but it depends on how you define confirmed.

We'll find out more Saturday, I think.

>>50275815
>Ahriman
>Magnus
>Rubrics

done :^)

The perfect addition to a force drawn from Traitors Hate™ or Khorne Daemonkin™
:^))))))))))))))

File: The Necron Threat.jpg (536KB, 1024x1569px) Image search: [Google]

536KB, 1024x1569px

>>50275832
It seems you guys like to argue just for the sake of arguing.

>>50275840
>>50275832

What's that from, Anon?

>>50275853
Warhammer Monthly. From time to time it featured fluff articles alongside the comics.

>>50275858
You said it was recent. That was a lie, wasn't it, Anon?

I want the gameplay to be good.

>>50275840
>It seems you guys like to argue just for the sake of arguing.

Welcome to 4chan

>>50275832
Even in recent fluff. Picture related*

File: Infinite-Circuit.jpg (138KB, 600x921px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 600x921px

>>50275862
You

see

>>50275866

Mistyped.

An example of a Necron worshipers comes from "Infinite Circuit".

>>50275865
But we are in /tg/. We expect proper conduct. letting a needless debate drag on instead of just posting fluff to end it, is unacceptable.

>>50270937
Thank fuck there's finally someone else that can't help but here that any time skitarii are mentioned! It just feels wrong to not pronounce the last "i", even if it isn't how GW themselves pronounce it. Then again they're hardly known for their Latin.

>>50275919
That's how it should be pronounced, Anon. GW are shit at using faux latin.

Guys am having some serious problems with my army, I can't seem to be able to win any battles. This christmas it will be a year that I started to play, and nothing seems to help. Am buying the new stuff GW comes up with, try new units , while my friends play with the stuff they bought when we all started. I more or less have all supplements and all models for my army, but nothing seems to work. I want to stop being the butt of jokes at my store and start having fun with my army and not just lose over and over again. What is worse I noticed that sometimes my opponents do errors or even play weaker list or "forget" stuff when playing me. And that is both insulting, and doesn't seem to help much either. I have everything for csm, save for 1ksons stuff, oblits and some of the chaos HQs. Everything else I have at least one unit/model offten more.

>>50275919
Skit-arr-i

>>50275968
Bullshit. Skit-ar-ee-ai.

>>50275954
ah and I also happen to have, some demons . mostly bloodletters and a bloodthirster I use as a DP, and 6 drop pods I bought when we started. I know chaos can't use them, but I did not knew that then.

>>50273100
It's alright anon, please don't be distressed.

If you want to do choppy marines, and don't like the options this pal suggested >>50273271
you can always use Carcharadon chapter tactics and the Space Marine codex - still a focus on choppiness but you don't pay out the arse for it and you've got better options for the rest of the list.

You could fluff it up as a relatively new warband, to explain the different tech.

I realize that "just play a marine army lol" is probably not gonna blow your skirts up, but if you're looking for something that can decently compete AND be moderately choppy at the same time, them's the breaks.

File: DSC_0056.jpg (1MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2560x1440px

Here are some symbols I was considering for my Necron dynasty, thoughts?

>>50276014
A and C are cool. Need a bit of refining.

>>50276034
Yeah, these are just rough sketches

>>50276037
D just reminds me of the clamps guy from futurama. But yeah neat designs. Hope you have a steady hand!

>>50276046
Nice

>>50270937
I call them that as well. How do we make it official?

>>50276046
Good painting there anon

>>50276046
Looks like AoS stuff going by the dorf icon to the lower right, but the warhammer 40,000 facebook page shared it. Weird.

SQUATS???

>>50276046
Thin you're Paints\10

>>50276046
It's apparently a spoiler for new AoS Mecha Dwarfs.
>>50276065
He didn't paint it.

>>50276046
Age of Sigmar Steampunk Dorfs. You can see a dwarf face on it.

>>50276065
>>50276074
He didn't paint it.

>>50276069
Doubt it. But if it is Squats, they'll be out next summer.

So I haven't played since 4th ed.

How do the AdMech play? I've always wanted an AdMech army.

>>50275974
Nah, Skee-tah-ree-ee

>>50276086
like slowish footsloggers which have massive toughness and grav spam for cheap

>>50276051
Shit it totally is. Now I want a Necron mafia.

>>50276121
>>50275974
>>50276121
>>50275919
Ske tah REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50276086
They're decent. Kataphrons are big-ass rape troops compared to other armies, Electropriests are pretty bad but can be fun to use if you like flooding the board and lots of attack rolls and Kastelans tend to be incredibly expensive but also ridiculously painful and tanky deathstars if used right, especially in their Cohort Cybernetica formation with IWND.

Skitarii play hugely different, relying more on speed and quik movements with specialized units and pretty big synergy with each other due to formarions (synergy being the main theme in AdMech in my eyes).

Both armies have some shared formations that allow you to use their army-wide special rules on each other, among other things, while conplementing each other relatively well.

Fielding pure CultMech means you win't have a lot of models but the ones you do have will pack some serious punch while Skitarii will have a lot of things to field but are mediocre in both surviving and oompf in comparison (though bith can load grav weapons on their basic troops).

There's rumours of both codices being combined soon and the next Imperial Armor will feature AdMech, so you might maaaaybe want to wait with going big with the army until we know what'll happen with them in the next few months.

>>50276074
No you are paints!

>>50276046
Alternative Admech/Mechanicum model. Too bad it'll be expensive as fuck.

>>50276069
The 40ksite shared the new community site which featured the image

>>50276292
>literally has a dwarf face on it

Nah, mate.

>>50276320
>literally has a dwarf face on it

So file it off or cover it. It's not hard, mate.

>>50276323
Oh alright, thought you were guessing that's what it was, not saying what you can use it for.

File: 99550101229_ValthexAstralClawMasteroftheForge02.jpg (36KB, 600x620px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 600x620px

Anybody got a Free Standard Shipping Voucher for Forge World knocking about? I want to get Valthex before he's discontinued, but fuck their shipping.

>>50276380
Move to the superior country.

It would probably be cheaper than US shipping.

>>50276558
>move to the superior country
I already live in one of the top three countries in the world while the UK and USA aren't even top ten, I don't feel like downgrading my quality of life because I want to buy a resin miniature.

GW is borrowing some rules mechanics form Age of Sigmar to pull over into the new edition.

Look for an emphasis on ease of play, especially for new players.

Look for the variable-stats-based-on-damage rule mechanic seen on some Age of Sigmar monsters to make it’s way into the Grimdark.

Look for Psychics to be greatly simplified.

Army construction will not be constrained.

Some version of AoS Warscrolls will make their way into the game.

The game will retain it’s gameplay and tactical depth, and not come anywhere near AoS’s tiny 4 pages of rules.

GW’s design goal is to maintain 40K’s depth of tactics and play, while speeding up playtime and removing needless detail.

8th Edition rumours.

>>50276622
>Depths of tactics
>Needless detail

I find it hard to belive they are talking about 40k.

File: yd4DIAcC2dw.jpg (72KB, 800x533px) Image search: [Google]

72KB, 800x533px

>>50276622
>army construction will not be constrained

>>50275102
nothing hypocritical about it
they don't have psykers in their chapter because the emps said it was a nono. nikea didn't ban the navigators and astropaths

>>50276622
>Look for an emphasis on ease of play, especially for new players.
as long as they don't remove blasts and themplates i'm more than happy.
>Look for the variable-stats-based-on-damage rule mechanic seen on some Age of Sigmar monsters to make it’s way into the Grimdark.
kinda eh-ish about this
>Look for Psychics to be greatly simplified.
good the whole get what you want 1/6 games is a terrible way to balance things. something that happens less than once per game shouldn't be in the first place
>Army construction will not be constrained.
great
>Some version of AoS Warscrolls will make their way into the game.
i actually like the codexes but they are expensive


hope they introduce a point cost for formations to

>>50276606
WEW
E
W

>>50276723
>Army construction will not be constrained.
>great

explain please, unbound is a fucking shitshow (sure formations are also a shitshow, looking at you riptide wing)

>>50276723
Formations AND summoning.

>>50276723
>hope they introduce a point cost for formations to
They did that in the first Apocalypse formations.

Anyone else have doubts when they started playing 40k? I bought a bunch of models and I've wanted to get into it for years but now i'm procrastinating

>fuck did i really want this army?

>oh god the models are tiny! I cant paint these!

>do I really want to keep going knowing how much money ill end up commuting to it?

>>50276766
same thing applies to any drug, plastic crack is no different

>mfw i bought SC: Tau for a freind
>freind ended up being a massive dick before his birthday
>kept it for myself
>ill just go on ebay for more models so its cheaper
>mfw i now have 7000+ points of tau and im repainting them all slowly

i want to start GK aswell

>>50276723
Blast and templates are going to go.
They're going to become a d6/d3 hits type of thing, think wall of death or no escape.

>>50276791
it better not, its essentially removing punishment for people putting units too close together

File: Warhammer 40,000 Rogue Trader 1987.jpg (663KB, 904x1255px) Image search: [Google]

663KB, 904x1255px

PLEAse for this PDF

How good are sound Marines? Was thinking of using emperors children and wanted to know if I can have a guitar solo squad

>>50276811
Pile'o'marines.

What do they stand on back there? Other marines?

>>50276808
Why should people be punished for putting units too close together?
The kind of autism that forces a guy to measure that every model in his 50 man squad are EXACTLY 2" apart kills games.

>>50275195
Stealing glorius duncan's first mini for shitty memes

>>50276833
Because soldiers walking close together are vulnerable to explosions?

>>50276858
And driving bicycles to hit things with swords is stupid tactic.

>>50276858
Basic Infantry tactics 101
> Maintain interval

>>50276875
Which us why noone does that.

>>50276833
>Why should people be punished for putting units too close together?
>The kind of autism that forces a guy to measure that every model in his 50 man squad are EXACTLY 2" apart kills games.

units are not models, there was someone at our LGS that placed his rhinos next to each other on deployment, all of them got hit by ordnance large blasts on turn 1 and it was entirely his fault

>>50276885
Exactly, so lets remove bikes and jetbikes as a unit type in 40k!
Also, lets remove all monsters, it's makes no sense something so large would be going around a modern battlefield.
Remove psykers as well, this is 40k, not Tolkien!

>>50276923
None of those are bicycles

>>50276923
We get it, you're pretending. 0/10.

>>50276811
It's in the OP link you lazy niggeroid.

Inb4 : Which link?

>>50274975
That's not canon anymore. They are a legit codex compliant chapter now.

With no Librarians becauselolpsykersarebadutwereallyneedastropathsandnavigators,sothey'reokay.

>>50276875
I mean if both you and your bike are invulnerable to small arms fire it's a decent tactic desu.

Will get the cunts running away at least.

>>50276885

>Point
>Your head

In 40k conventional logic has no fucking place. That was the point.

File: 1efe3ec080d3e9bc0169efea7d3f2e41.jpg (250KB, 697x936px) Image search: [Google]

250KB, 697x936px

Would you look at someone funny if someone had an allied detachment of GSC that was super camo'd up Catachans counts-as for neophytes?