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Pathfinder General /pfg/

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Ever taken your party someplace spooky and/or scary?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Broken Shackles Playtest: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/59701/broken-shackles-test-play
Creation Handbook Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#
Avowed Playtest: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg

Old thread: >>50259793
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>>50267248
Kill all the kitsunes.
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>>50267248
Love all the kitsunes!
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>>50267283
fpbp
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>>50267283
REMOVE KITSUNE
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>>50264588
>>50266776
>>50266965
>Inquisitor Archetype in the catfolk section, implied to be catfolk-specific (even though it has nothing mechanically worth being racially locked)
>Gives you the limited benefits of an Oracle Mystery
>You're still Wisdom based
>Catfolk can't get rid of their wisdom penalty
>we could have Cha-quisitors RIGHT NOW
>I could have my gotten a half-elf, Str-based Sanctified Cha-quisitor RIGHT NOW

Fucking fuck paizo, one job. ONE. JOB. ONE FUCKING JOB.
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>>50267248
Maybe one of these spooky and/or scary locations?
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>>50267283

I'd rather love a Witchwolf.
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>>50267316
witchwolves best awoos
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>>50267298
Don't forget that Tengu get access to possibly the Worst Swashbuckler archetype, and the Best Witch Archetype
Also Ratfolk are super noice, and Vanara have given us the ability to actually TWF bastardswords
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>>50267316
>con/wis
Into the trash it goes
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>>50267308
Also this page. Any requests?
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>it's another episode of players are all hyped for weeks and then when the game is scheduled to start none of them are in sight
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>>50267336
>Swordmaster birb master of rogueishness
>Drops all the cool sword shit to become Monk disciple

uuuuuh
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>>50267308
Character Options first pls
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>>50267336
There's tons of cool stuff in that book namely most of the stuff in the kitsune section don't get me wrong. But Paizo has managed to take the one thing I really, really, REALLY WANTED and fuck it up. They fucked it up twice over by ALSO putting it on a race that gets a penalty towards the class's casting modifier, and I assume that it's locked to that race.

>man I sure wish I could get a Cha-quisitor with Oracle mysteries so I could be strength focused
>we got you senpai, here's a racial archetype for a class with a wisdom penalty and a dex bonus that could do that
>well that's not too ba-
>also it's not a cha-quisitor, it's still wis-based
>paizo why
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>>50267283
I carry this banner with me no beastfolk will survive my wrath.
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>>50267248

A reminder that Rise of the Jade Regent needs Additional DMs to help accommodate the huge number of Applicants there are!

Please be an awesome person and volunteer!

You can set your own timeslot.

We'd prefer it you had the same character creation perimeters of the original. Though you are free to make changes as you see fit.

Level 3 start
Gestalt
25 PB
All 1pp/DSP/SoP allowed
Other 3pp needs to be checked over
2 traits (3 with a disadvantage)
max starting gold for your class plus appropriate WBL (3,000 gp + starting gold amount).
Pretty much open races, provided it's not something broken

Optional rules in use are:

Unchained classes
When multiclassing, fractional BAB/Saves are used
Variant Multiclassing
Background skills and skill unlocks
Stamina is in use, Fighters and Kineticists gain Combat Stamina for free
Commonplace Guns
Words of Power, in case anyone wants to use that
Called Shots
Kineticists use Stamina in place of Burn
Master of Many Styles Monk retains the ability to choose any feat in a style chain path as a bonus feat without needing to meet the prerequisites.
Feat tax rules detailed here ( http://michaeliantorno.com/feat-taxes-in-pathfinder/)
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>>50267328
That's not how you spell agathion- or archon-blooded aasimars.
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>>50267420

a friendly reminder to fuck off t b q h
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>>50267426
>aasimars
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>>50267380
Right-o
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How is spheres of power any different from Fursona?
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>Go to my local games shop
>Do you guys run Pathfinder?

>Yeah, every other Saturday at four...
>blah blah blah
>We're on the pathfinder society list

GET IN THE FUCKING OVEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>50267466
What
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>>50267454
Page full of Arcanist exploits here
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>>50267473
>tentacles

jesus christ.
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>>50267467
What's wrong with Pathfinder society?
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>>50267473
And to go along with the Bard stuff from Blood of Beasts, a new archetype and other bits.
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>>50267470

Seriously. I cannot see any difference.
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>>50267487
How about a horrific animal companion?
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>>50267483
>He is unironically asking this question
lad pls you're better than this
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>>50267487
oh my i love that bard archetype
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>>50267347

Con/Wis mean they make the perfect mothers or fathers; sturdy and wise! Wise Wolf!

>>50267328

This nigga knows what's up, I want to protect that wan.
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>>50267504
Fuck, forgot the image.
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>>50267428

I thought someone here showed interest in DMing?
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>>50267483

It has a few extra rules and limits thought up by the devs with the intent to better balance the game for overall standardized play.

Unfortunately, that is not something they're particularly good at.
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>>50267504
>>50267516
How about a Zon-Zon Kuu-chan Monk?
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>>50267373
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>>50267483
You know all the retarded errata that happened that nerfed martials, and removed the fun choices?
Those came from PFS
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>>50267420
I would GM for it only to kill all the kitsune applications.
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>>50267531
Oracle Corruptions instead of just Curses.
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>>50267516
This is actually really cool. I've always hated that the animal companion classes basically get over their old animals as soon as they die to get on with adventuring.
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>>50267561
Ever wanted to play a shaman with a pet tentacle monster?
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>>50267553
So they're the ones that ruined my Jingasa?

I thought tabletop players liked fun?
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>>50267576
And finally Abberant Eidolons
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Humblebundle is having a Pathfinder bundle, is it worth getting?

I was looking at the Freeport book mainly but I see the 3.5 version is in the trove. Does anyone know what the differences are? I do want to kind of try running a more urban game.
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What's the best weapons setup for TWF? 2 falcatas with effortless lace?
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>>50267603

fuck humblebundle. they give to shitty "charities"
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>>50267603
> Humblebundle is having a Pathfinder bundle, is it worth getting?

Nah. It's all shit tier 3PP garbage.
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>>50267531
>Mortifications
>No rules for use with Unchained Monk
why?
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>>50267605
You don't even need effortless lace anymore if you go Fighter. Just take Warrior Spirit and Effortless TWF and go to town senpai.
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>>50267576
>>50267592
Sweeeeeet.
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>>50267605
Kukri + other Kukri + Stalker + Keen

16-20 x2 Crit Mod. Stalker's entire class is built on fishing crits and you have a ~36% chance to get one a round by level... Five, maybe.

Falcatas are a waste of a feat unless you can find a way to get proficency.
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>>50267592
>>50267531
>Has Unchained Summoner stuff
>But not Unchained Monk
Paizo must still be salty about having to make the Unchained Monk
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How would you calculate the CR of an organization? Any thoughts on this?
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>>50267700
I almost certainly wouldn't. Why are you trying to do that, anyway?
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>>50267742
To give players the ability to use knowledge history/local/nobility to gauge the power of a group.
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>>50267831
why do you need CR for that
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I was wondering if one of the DSP guys or the knowledgeable 'shills' around here could explain to me how the fourth is not valid.

It's just like the third one, except aimed off to the side which is valid, as described in the text box.
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>>50267831
...you're doing it wrong. Especially since the more influential a group is, the easier knowledge checks relating to it should be.
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>>50267443
Tieflings are also cool. Which ones would be wolf like, rakshasa-spawn?
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>>50264528

Is Depilate the ultimate anti-kitsune spell?
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>>50267878
yeah, that'd be the one.
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>>50267553
Huh.
Damn, and I kind of liked the PFS concept.
Fuck 'em, I guess?
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>>50267875
Yes the CR is not for the knowledge check I'm using a system based on membership to determine the check. I'm just thinking what the CR of an organization with a diverse set of levels should be.
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>>50267831
CR is for encounters. Making it irrelevant unless you're describing it as if you fight every member at the same time. Or does CR handle many-many member fights very well.

Let's take the FBI. The FBI doesn't fight as an entire organization, it has small teams, and a lot of desk jockies.

If you were to describe the power of any organization, country, you describe what they have control/jurisdiction over, personnel/budget, previous examples of control, and what people think of them. Not really a number that gets less and less accurate or meaningful the higher it goes.
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>>50264552

Does the First Mother's Fang make cavaliers great again? Seems pretty good.
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>>50267621
>3PP
Third Party craP?
Huh.
Also okay, thanks.
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>>50267878

Demon-spawn have some pretty bestial features too.
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>>50267885
>Is Depilate the ultimate anti-kitsune spell?

The idea of a hairless Kitsune terrifies me.
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>>50267871
Third one goes straight then spreads forward
Fourth one goes straight, then turns 90 degrees right and spreads that way
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>>50267487
>Insights from beyond doesn't specify that spells chosen have to be of a level the Bard is capable of casting
Welp, looks like some interesting conjurer bards will happen
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>>50267962
What?

It says it can go to one side, though.

Is it that you can go at a diagonal, but not a 90 degree angle?
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>>50264588
Why are catfolk inquisitors and shamans still Wis-based even if they have -2 Wis and +2 Cha?

Seems unfair.
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>>50268012
because catfolk are a shit.
A SHIT!
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>>50268012
>Seems unfair.

No, it seems like an oversight.
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>>50268012
BECAUSE FUCK YOU FOR WANTING NICE THINGS

I just wanted Cha-quisitors why must paizo hate me so much
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>>50268012

Life is pretty unfair for cat people.
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>>50268035

Wolf-girls > Kitsune > Cat-girls.

It is known.
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>>50268056
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>>50268056
all are shit though.
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>>50267982
Probably follows the draw a line through the target rule of cover and flanking. Nudge the cone to the right and it becomes valid?
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>>50268062
pls no bully
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>>50268049

Silly anon, Inquisitors (whose entire nature is built around hunting down heretics and rooting up corruption) can't be inspired by their sheer force of presence, it's got to be worldly wisdom! Wisdom!

CHARISMA CAN"T HAVE NICE THINGS FUCK YOU FOR THINKING OTHERWISE, LAST TIME I SAW A HIGH-CHARISMA PERSON THEY GAVE ME A SWIRLIE :(
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>>50268062
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>>50268078
And you liked it
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>>50268062
>all are shit though.

Excuse me? Wolf-girls are consistently Best Girl in whatever media they're presented.
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Post dragons please
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>>50268078
its fine though because i'm going to make a cha based spiritualist that is definitely not this.
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>>50268101
It's one of those rules like the genki, the osananajimi or the part-zentradi not winning.
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>>50268079
You think the rest of that discussion isn't?
Where the fuck do you think you are, boy?
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>>50268056
More like
kitsune crossdressers > wolfgirls = kitsune > catgirls = sneks > ratgirls > other
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>>50267487
That bard archetype is so terrible even WITHOUT the muteness, and then you get nothing for being mute.

Really? Why, Paizo?
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>>50268156
because mute girls are cute.
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>>50268114

>Gamagirl's gams are always the biggest gams in the room

You must remember that little detail, anon.
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>>50268171
Gamagirly is always 1 size category larger than the largest opponent.
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>>50268110
Best Chromatic
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>>50267531
>Pain Binding has a Charisma-based DC
>on a monk

Why?
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Is Jade Regent before or after Shattered Star?
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>>50268198
mix it with scaled fist!
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>>50267351
locations would be great, especially "exotic" (tian/qadira/etc - though linnorm realms/north also appreciated)
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>>50268110

Fine.
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>check out roll20 like every night
>still no game that i could join because they are too early (3am) or too late (10pm)
>when i finally find a game that is on suitable time its on friday, when i DM for my own group

suffering
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>>50268152

I'm not a fan of Kitsune crossdressers unless they're reverse-traps, it just doesn't seem like a fun surprise for anyone involved!

Wolf-girls are however fantastic, if you want my opinion (which I know you do) I'd revise with this

wolfgirls > Kitsune cross-dressers > kitsune = Cowgirls/Holstaurus > catgirls = sneks > other > ratgirls.
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>>50268156
Well, you get more versatile spells out of it, but you are right there is not much to write home about.
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>>50268202
It's only canonically after Runelords and every 3.5 AP.
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>>50268214
>ratgirls bottom tier

fuk u
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So i take it some new race guide came out.
Is there something in the book thats making people actually dislike kitsune or is this all just memeing
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>>50268110
>>50268209

Have you hugged your Dragon-blooded Sorceress today?
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>>50268226
It's a mix of people not liking kitsune and Kitsune being a fucking forced memegod I hope it's a meme.
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>>50268202
>Is Jade Regent before or after Shattered Star?

Shalelu shows up in Shattered Star, so it would have to be after unless Shalelu figures out a way back to Avistan.
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>>50268226
The kitsune-hate's just counter-memeing because kitsune-posting's been around for a while.

Blood of the Beast is the new book in question, imo it adds some pretty neat stuff.
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>>50267561
>Lich curse gets Control Undead as a 2nd-level spell

Wow. This is just great, isn't it?
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>>50267561
oh wow, these are great curses.
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I have a little access to race builder for my next character, and I'm debating whether flight is really worthwhile or if I should take advanced climber (+16 racial bonus on climb checks) for a Fool's Errand warlord when I'm just a couple levels from Lesson IV: The Ladder
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Sorry to bother, quick question.

I'm making a natural attack CAGM Barbarian, and I'm wondering if I can use my highest natural attack each time, or am I supposed to use a different one for each person?
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>>50268208

The horror realm in the Linnorm Kingdoms is known as Kalva, it's a dreary island off the coast of Icemark home to white-haired, gigantic (often growing to 7 feet) Ulfen cannibals that partake in a native Mindslaver mold that gradually causes them to lose their minds and have eye-stalks sprout outta their faces.

I think it's a case of nature versus nurture though, so if you wanted to be a super-huge Ulfen with platinum-blonde hair you could use that as inspiration.
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>>50268230

Saved. Also rolling one up right now.
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>>50268224
They can't handle her.
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>>50268214
Adorable girly boys are just cute, there's nothing sexual about it! But reverse traps are also top tier, I will give that to you.

>Cowgirls/Holstaurus
Also noice, big racks bring big smiles!
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>>50268283
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>>50268286
>>50268224

It's not that I can't handle her, it's that she's a cookie-cutter character that's somehow used as the sole example of ratgirls being "sexy and cool."

Like, if there was only *one* good example of a cute Wolfgirl than I would have second thoughts about wolf-girls, but those types are all over the ding dong place.
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>>50268307
Freya crescent?
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>>50268280
>and I'm wondering if I can use my highest natural attack each time, or am I supposed to use a different one for each person?

Don't see a reason why you couldn't, use your highest attack bonus and swing away!
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>>50268280

Well, the Come and Get Me AoO is functionally identical to a regular AoO, so yes, you should be using your normal BAB, rather than a derivative.
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Once again asking for advice on how I'd play a paladin of Melek Taus. There isn't much on her besides that she's Lawful Good, lived in a bitchin' castle, and has disappeared.

I mean I suppose I could just splice it with stuff from Yazidism, but...
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>>50268152
Would you let someone play a cross-dressing shota trap GiftedBlade/PsyArm/WarSoul || Meditant/Pathwalker zenko kitsune into a lewd gestalt game?
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>>50268304
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>>50268299

I'm glad we could come to an agreement on good kemonomimi taste!

It makes me sad there isn't a holstaurus race in Pathfinder, the closes we've gotten is the Minos from a few months back and I haven't heard anything about them since.
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>>50268356
I'm still here, i've just been too busy to work on homebrew stuff
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>>50268348
In fact, that's exactly what I have been considering, among other things, to play in that very game.

I was first.
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>>50268346

Splice away, my man. It sounds like Melek Taus is basically an expy of Yazidism, so just base your character around that.
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>>50268307
Because the Japanese haven't fetishised rats yet. Give them time.

I'd like to know what to count Ink-Eye's weapon as personally. It's like a wacky kusarigama.
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>>50268401

Wacky kusarigama seems like the best pick, honestly.
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>>50268230
>Dragon-blooded Sorceress
Disgusting
Celestial a best
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>>50268410

I'm in love with that Mephistopheles.

How do I get that good at roleplay ;_;
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>>50268375
Sure, it's just the problem I'm having is molding it into some kind of code for the paladin to actually follow. From what I'm reading I'm not seeing too much.
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>>50268369
I can always play a DIFFERENT kind of kitsune...
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>>50268330
Nice.
>>50268331
No, I mean, do I get to use my bite each time, or am I supposed to use my bite, my claws, my gore, so on.

One more question. Is there a feat I can use to lump all my natural attacks into one big thing, like with Clustered Shots?
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>>50268476

Why not a Wrecking Mysticism Oracle and bind yourself to another character? You could be like Tamamo, best girl and best wife!
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>>50268476
>No no the kitsune I play is different you see-..
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>>50268110

Remember that you brought this upon yourself.
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>>50268509
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>>50268507

Are there any characters applying for that game that *aren't* precious snowflakes?
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>>50268526
At this point this is the intended reaction.
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>>50268545
define precious snowflakes
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>>50268476
Are you teasing me now? That's another picture I've posted here several threads ago.
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>>50268545
Which game?
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>>50268545
>are there any pathfinder PCs that *AREN'T* precious snowflakes?
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>>50268630
Pathfinder
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>>50268644
>haha i will accuse every character of being a precious snowflake
>how dare people want to make something thats different and not just a generic white male human fighter with a sword ho my gooood
>also i will not define what a special snowflake is so that nobody can say i was wrong
>fuck yeah i'm smart.
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>>50268671
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>>50268630

I believe the cross-dresser was "jokingly" applying for the Rise of the Jade Regent campaign?
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>>50268671
I do think it's rather interesting that most of the applicants, with the exception of those playing humans are all either Tieflings or some kind of Human with X ears.
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>>50268713
>with the exception of those playing humans are all either Tieflings or some kind of Human with X ears.

The other races are either hard sells for being in Sandpoint, or just not very desirable as lewd characters.
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>>50268509
Thats a face that wants the D
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>>50268713
Link to game please?
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>>50268713
its almost like every race in pathfinder is a human, human derivative, or human with x ears.

Outside of the super weird races whom are just more difficult to fit in a campaign
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>>50268733

It is mostly in these threads

https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/details/1770733/waiting-room-of-the-runeregent
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>>50268713
>with the exception of those playing humans are all either Tieflings or some kind of Human with X ears.

>mfw I'm actually kind of interested in gathering up a list of characters posted around these parts and actually figuring out how many of what is applying.
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>>50268763

LETS GO! ROLLL CALL PEOPLE!!
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>>50268713
>good stats for lots of classes
>the campaign is set in a primarily human-populated settlement
>most of the popular races in pathfinder are "humans but x" anyway
>I'm too lazy to try to find a different race, because I've had this particular character sitting in my folder waiting to get used in a game for over a year and don't want to change him
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>>50268776
Now hold on, u trying to bait me into waifufagging, aren't you? I ain't fallin for this.
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>>50268737
>human derivative
Humanoid is a given.

But even taking into account "lewdness"(which I don't really see as a factor as presumably the only way your character would be completely bereft of sexuality would be to make them a eunuch). You still have a bunch of regular humanoids and non tiefling outsiders to choose from.
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>>50268713
Make a Trox, then? Giant bug-human with no ears.
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>>50268503
I'm doing that in a game I'm in, except I went in with Racial Heritage (Kitsune) human.
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>>50268836

You have good taste, anon.
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>>50268830
well aasimar are disliked by many cause MUH NO DOWNSIDE, and elves, dwarves, halflings, and gnomes are like.. Super hated.
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>>50268776

Onryou Kaijistu,
Monk/Warpriest (Sacred fist)
Oni-Spawn Tiefling.
Ordained punch priest and chef.
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>>50268857

>Elves and halflings are super hated

Hmm? I really enjoy having those races around, they're fun.

And halflings in a lewd game are even more fun.
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>>50268833
That's not really a criticism. Just an observation.
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>>50267531
>+20 to escape artist checks as a free action
So you're saying the butt-gnome is now a valid strategy at level 4?
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>>50268888
Nice gets!

Check mine!
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>people talking about too many tieflings
>start looking at other races
>think back on Blood of the Beast
>mfw realizing that I could reasonably, within both mechanical and fluff terms, use the stuff from that book
>mfw stopping as I realize I just contemplated making my character a Youkai Kitsune with the Keen Kitsune ART, who takes the form of what he thinks a human hero looks like

This needs to stop, don't make me fuck up a character I've had ready to go for a year.
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>>50268500
>>50268280
Here, I'll just show you. This is my Kobold Barbarian. 20-point buy, 240k, average hitdie gain, and twelve FCB into racial natural attack damage, and two into HP.
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>>50268713
>Human with X ears
I think it's safe to say this is more of the problem with /pfg/ in general. There was a supplement that JUST came out that explicitly describes a Kitsune's "true form" as a "fox-faced" creature, but everyone here who wants to play one goes for the kawaii uguu~ weeb tropes of a little girl cosplaying a kemonomimivan or something.

I see a lot more variety with public PF groups, especially those in the LGS, and even those who play something like Kitsune base themselves off of something like Fantastic Mr. Fox before whatever monstergirl anime is the current FOTM. Racial balance definitely does play into things a bit, but some people are just tired with Tolkien stereotypes.
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>>50268944
buildposter please go
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>>50268944
And when angry. Thoughts?
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>>50268951
I mean i don't describe my witch-wolf girl as MUH ANIMAL EARS, she's normal looking and then transforms into something werewolf looking

/pfg/ just likes to think of that shit.
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>>50268944
>>50268959

Isn't that the name of someone/something from Bionicle?
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>>50268951
t. Augunas
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>>50268713
Mine is a dwarf.
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>>50268977
Yes, because he's king of the lizards, baby.
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>>50268951
To be fair, I don't even consider myself that weeb, but I always imagined kitsune as being either Full on Fox demons, like four legs, sharp teeth, many tails etc.

or

Or animu chicks with tails and ears.
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>>50268110
Posting dragon brothers from my campaign.
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>>50269006
If anything, the "Official Pathfinder version" is just fucking wrong given the mythology
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>>50268951
There's a large group that just want the kitsune to actually be kitsune, instead of "anthro foxes that just so happen to have a bit of kitsune stuff stapled to them". As in, we want them to be an ACTUAL FOX that turns into a human.
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>>50268980
Tell me more.
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So which is spookier - an Antipaladin/Ghoul Sorc, or an Antipaladin/Ghost Rider Cavalier?
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>>50269124
does the ghost rider cavalier have a motorcycle?
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>>50267561
Ahahahaha Finally a great curse for my Oracle//steelfist. Time to duel curse so I can keep the lore I wrote from the first curse.
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>>50269167
what curse
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>>50268942
>don't make me fuck up a character I've had ready to go for a year.

Anon, if you want me to be brutally honest, the spoiler edit you just gave us sounds about 10x cooler than the same thing with a Tiefling hiding in the attic.
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If someone could help me figure out how to get the maps for jade regent onto roll20, I think I'd be up for running a PFG game of it here.
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>>50269073
A dwarf attempting to catalogue and gather ancient lore by any means necessary. He was exiled from his clan for sleeping with a married woman and plans on bringing the lore back as a show of his worth to be let back in.
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>>50269212
but thats not lewd at all
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>>50269217

The vast majority of male applications aren't lewd, anon.

Which is kind of the point, methinks; the only reason the women come across as lewd is because they've got the T and A we all want, but behind the bust is a backstory we just sorta brush over.
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>>50269217
The character is not very lewd. The entire idea was dwarven Oda Nobunaga with extra crazy. Also more like the historical figure than the anime interpretations.
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>>50269242
>dwarven nobunaga with extra crazy
>not like the anime interpretations

i don't understand.
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>>50269212
I can dig that you're not making what is essentially a porn star, but it might be hard to justify a lot of the early adventure as lore seeking.

That being said getting some dank lore from the other side of the fucking planet would probably make you the talk of the fort when the campaign wraps up.
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>>50269258

Oh, hey, Drifters is an anime now, isn't it?

Any good?
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>>50269278
Oh yes

Its very good.
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>>50269241
>The vast majority of male applications aren't lewd, anon.

The vast majority of male applications *are* pretty cool, though!
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>>50269258
Drifters isn't crazy enough generally.

>>50269261
The plan is for that to be the original plan and his life kind of spiraled out of control.
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>>50269290
honestly, most applications sound fun

I NEED TO STOP MAKING CHARACTERS HELP ME

>>50269296
>drifters isn't crazy enough

uhhh.
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>>50269187
HEY NOW, he didn't just hide in the attic, he's a decent glassworker, and "that one sibling" that got passed around between his other brothers and sisters because he didn't want to live alone. He took care of, then got stuck living with his nieces and nephews, and then did the same with his great-nieces and nephews! Just because he's a shut-in doesn't mean he never did ANYTHING!

I actually really like the kitsune thing too, because it would be far easier to explain where all the time went. I just loathe all the kitsune memes, and I would have to go back and tweak my reference sheet again.
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>>50269306
Not crazy enough.
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>>50269290
Which ones aren't?
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>>50269323
shota kitsune can burn
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>>50269320
i mean... He's pretty fucking crazy.
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>>50269306

Anon, I demand you stop making characters right NOW! Do it!

>tfw there might be two games

That means there will be two groups, which means we'll have to decide who goes where.

Which means people calling dibs on PCs to play with.
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>>50269326
I'm like 90% sure shota kitsune is straight up shit posting.
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>>50269348
i'm not.
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>>50269175
I had lame first but I'm probably gonna take lycanthropy now so I can talk to cats. The perfect mix of things; the duel cursed even has a luck theme too so I can go full lucky/unlucky cat flavored monk in armor. But also keep the theme of someone struggling with an old injury, problems with his faith, and issues with self medication. Catnip tea, a pilgrimage, and sunbeams are the best medicine
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>>50269347
honestly i'm ok with bloodrager/brawler wuff playing with anyone.
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I just have a nice Umbral Sorcerer sitting around for a game that got canceled.

Pic related
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>>50269371

I'd rub her belly any day, anon.
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>>50269306
>>50269347

Well the DM has said that he'd be willing to do multiple groups, he just can do enough games to accept everyone.

Thats why we need more DMs
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>>50269375

That's a shame. She sounds like she'd be pretty handy to have on an adventure.
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>>50269429
>Thats why we need more DMs

What, so everyone can get in? That's when we have to figure out our ideal groups, since one character concept might not mesh well with another character concept.
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>>50269423
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>>50269446

Well at least so everyone has a fair oppertunity , i imagine at least someone is gonna be left out.
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>>50268959
>>50268944
>Two claws, a bite, a gore, a tail slap.
>Can critical threaten on a charge.
>Can cause 1d4 CON damage on crit.
>On crit confirm, makes enemy roll fortitude twice to avoid being blinded and deafened.
>Bite attack causes another fort save to avoid being nauseated for eight rounds.
>Can deal, on average, ~181 damage on a Pounced full attack, and make you roll three different saves.

Jesus.
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>>50269448

Tough wolf-girl kicking her leg to a vigorous belly rub is the best.

Who knows how she'll respond to a raspberry to the belly-button, though.
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>>50267420
>running someone else's campaign
>running for the degenerates of /pfg/ who will be beating off the whole time
Yeah I'll pass.
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>>50269531
>>running for the degenerates of /pfg/ who will be beating off the whole time
You can always just say, "fade to black, pls don't make something overtly fetishy".

First point is 100% valid though.
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>>50269531
It's okay anon, I'll beat off to your game even if it isn't RotJR.
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>>50269531
so run your own campaign

you'll still probably get lots of applicants.
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Working on an ethnographic map of my setting
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>>50269575

GAS THE REDS RACE WAR NOW
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>>50269575
Why does it look like someone melted a bunch of crayons together on the map? Also where do you see that level of detail being needed for your players?
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>>50269581
t. Yellow shitters

You will never be relevant, third worlders.
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>>50269278
One of the best scenes doesn't have that same "oomph", but yeah it's alright.
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>>50269657

Where the hell is this image from.
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>>50269674
drifters
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>>50269674
You didn't even try, did you?
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>>50269692

I don't need to try when I have you :^)
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A player found this healer class. Seems to be literally just a healer, does this look viable to play in a 4 man party?
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?500823-The-Healer-revisited-(PEACH)
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Hey dude, I don't know if you're around to read this, but Buffalo Trace is absolutely nowhere near as good as Kraken, holy shit this is a bad buzz.
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How do the players in /pfg/ like their overworld maps? How much attention do you guys actually pay to it?
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>>50269742
>How do the players in /pfg/ like their overworld maps?

Detailed and unobtrusive, I'm a sucker for maps so I tend to pay a lot of attention to them.
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>>50269758
Would you be a fan of multiple sizes of maps so that you can see the world, the nation, and the local? I'm looking into how much I need to put into a setting to get /pfg/ interested in playing in it and one or two people a thread are probably a good enough indicator of things people like and what makes for happy players.
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>>50269348
I may acutally play it. Don't know are they different from oni musclegirls or werewolf girls.
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>>50269800
>Would you be a fan of multiple sizes of maps so that you can see the world, the nation, and the local?

I'd apply for your campaign in a heartbeat, anon.

A heartbeat.

After vigorously working out a character+backstory, of course.
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Friendly reminder that a character can gain the ability to use Inexplicable Luck seven (7) times per day.
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>>50268503
Tamamo is literal trash.
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>>50269848

You take that back, you frickin' dork.
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>remember there was a racial archetype that looked like it would mechanically work really well for my character, figure I might as well look into it
>it conflicts with a different archetype that I was debating looking into trying to take
>mfw I'm already sitting here trying to jury rig the archetypes of the other side of the gestalt to work with spheres
>I would then be trying to put my hands together and asking very nicely if I can slap an obscure racial archetype on top of a 3pp archetype of questionable quality

What the fuck am I doing with my life. How on earth did I meme myself this far. Why does rogue have to be such shit.
Since somebody's going to ask anyway: Weapon Champion template archetype from Rogue Genius, and the Kitsune Trickster rogue archetype.
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>>50269857
She is disgusting. Weakest Servant, weakest wife. No redeeming features.
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>>50269558
Goblin are cute wtf
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>>50269848
approved.
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>>50269870

DELETE THIS
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>>50269826
how
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>>50269880
Why is that see through?
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>>50269891
Because Umu~ loves attention.
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>>50269891
Its not see through she's allowing you to see in.
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>>50269891

She's the Whore of Babylon, anon.
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>>50269742
I'm a sucker for Paizo's illustrated region maps. They're cool, well-drawn, and they are what I would give players for their own reference.

Plus they just make good props. If you're not using high-res, high quality materials, it's because you don't care about the quality of your game.
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>>50269901
there it is
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>>50269883
Or what, you'll use Eightfold Blessing of Amaterasu on me? lol
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>>50269909
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>>50269931
>>50269923

NO

STOP

TAMAMO IS BEST GIRL AND FLUFFY WAIFU AS WELL AS CASTER, THE WHORE OF BABYLON CAN JUST GEEEEEEEET OUT!
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>>50269956
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>>50269956
Calm down Tamomo, last time you got this mad you did a genocide. Being NE isn't very attractive, you know.
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>>50270005
>tfw the only way i can think of to make some of the classes in occult adventures to work is to be evil
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>>50270005
>Being NE isn't very attractive, you know.

>Implying the waifu that would kill an entire orphanage to see you smile isn't the best kind of waifu.
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>>50269865
>Weapon Champion and Kitsune Trickster
For what purpose?
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Yo all, KOP 4 is in the publisher's hands now, so it should be coming out in a week or so.

We were getting pretty unhappy feedback about the twice born repenter, so it's been replaced with the kinetic lancer, which is basically a dragoon style lancer that can jump incredible heights, impale foes with a lance made of fire, and basically be the baddest bastard in the room. There's a few other tweaks too, but as a whole, I'm feeling pretty good about this book.
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>>50267351
Anything for the Medium?
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>>50267248
>Ever taken your party someplace spooky and/or scary?

Not!Athens when the Plane of Shadow was leaking into it.

The next session, I took the PCs to the Plane of Shadow to see the dark reflection of the place where they were at. It was kind of like the Dark World from Legend of Zelda: LttP, but darker.
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>>50270120
>dark, but darker
AdvancedDarkness.jpg
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>>50270080
I hate myself, and the latter adds a character's Int bonus to several skills.

Weapon Champion is just because I want to patch the fact that I intended to go some variation on Magus||(Hidden Blade) Rogue
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>>50269885
The Lucky feat allows you to add two uses per day to, among other things, any feat with Defiant Luck as a prerequisite, up to a max of six additional uses per day.
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>>50270127
Look at the descriptions from the Manual of the Planes.

Instead of making in black and white, I made it black and off-white, and the sky had flickering red dots for stars.
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>>50270134
>I intended to go some variation on Magus||(Hidden Blade) Rogue
O shit nigga what are you doing? Isn't sneak attack an action is PF so you can't just sneaky spell strike a dude for a gorillion damage?
If I'm wrong we need to team up so I can make people flat footed and flanked for you to unleash MAX DAMAGE on
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>>50270286

>That pic
>Instantly reminded like half of the female PCs applying for that game are animals or animal-inspired
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>>50270286
If you spellstrike a spell into your sword the spell stays in your sword even if you don't use it that turn.
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>>50270304
Everyone will have their own animal and we can get mechs and become the power rangers.
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>>50270330

...I would play that campaign.
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>>50270286
Sneak attacking happens whenever you meat the prereqs, there's no action for it.
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>>50270137
Is it really worth 5 feats? I guess I could make my GM cry with an Ifrit Diviner wizard that max stacks init. +4 from racial, +4 from improved init, +2 from traits, +8 from inexplicable luck, +1/2 wizard level.
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>>50268776
Guff's not done yet!
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>>50269166
Nah, just a ghost horse.
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>>50270137
>Inexplicable Luck
>Prerequisites: Defiant Luck, human

>Lucky
>Prerequisites: Black Cat or Lucky Halfling

>Black Cat
>Prerequisites: Catfolk

>Lucky Halfling
>Prerequisites: Halfling

Am I missing something here? How are you a human/(halfling/catfolk)?
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>>50270330

I want to get inside the Sweet toothed girl!
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>>50270326
>>50270346
Ah mighta been 5e I was thinking of? Or 4e. My life has become a blur of games, applications, and character sheets in my spare time. All of the rules are slowly blending together in my brain.

Is it bad form to keep some maneuvers and options open until the DM gives you the final party comp? It might seem like I'm trying to chat the system or like I couldn't finish my character sheet or something. I want to make sure I have some fun combination attacks/spells with the other players so that I can make everyone do better.
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>>50270392
It specifies in Special: that you can ignore the prereqs for Defiant luck or any feat that has it as a prereq
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>>50270395
Sneak attacks are just riders that get attached to normal attacks that meet specific criteria (opponent is flat-footed, OR opponent is flanked, OR etc.) so that way it WOULD in fact stack with a spellstrike. I didn't want to lean on sneak attack dice, because the character's gimmick was trying to be a heroic, good individual. He also was not supposed to be a kitsune in the first place, but sometimes mechanics give you ideas for stuff. I may have to rethink class choices just in case, though, since Weapon Champion is a bit out there.

>>50270395
>is it cheating to hold off on certain character options so you can make them fit with the rest of the group

As long as the core character pitch doesn't change too much, and you present yourself as a player that can be worked with, I don't see why not.
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>>50270304
Are there REALLY no crossdressing shota animal-boys in RotJR?
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>>50270405
>mfw I didn't read the full feat
Well now I just look stupid.
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>>50270395
>Chat the system
I meant cheat but I'm sure someone knew that.
Take a noble naga as payment for my sin.

>>50270421
It's mostly just small fighting style choices that open up options for other fighters, like the gambits of a warlord and 2ish maneuvers that'd depend on what types of martial allies I'd be working with, I just don't want to seem dickish or indecisive.
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>>50270455

You could try and apply with one, anon!
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>>50270455
No

>>50270492
Don't
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>>50270455
I am playing a shark cross dresser. He wears pretty dresses and bows and the blood of his prey
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>Be 9th level
>My character hits himself on 10+
This isn't good, right?
18 to hit 28 AC btw
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>>50270455
Anon have you heard about the word of THICC?

Convert from your blasphemous ways.
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>>50270523
You might have been better off playing a Sahaugin.

>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsterCodex/sahuagin.html
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/monstrous-humanoids/sahuagin
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>>50270578
I want to dicc that thicc
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No one must know of my secret desire to DM lewd games
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>>50270578
>Anon have you heard about the word of THICC?

You know, I'm just going to throw this out there, but while THICC is fun and all it feels like we could do with a little more THICC magic-users or "actually human" characters.
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>>50270575
This is what people mean by rocket tag. As long as your initiative is good you'll be fine.
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>>50270619

We wont tell anyone, so long as you make that secret desire an open secret
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>>50270575
It's not terrible
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>>50270619
Even your players?
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>>50270619
But you just said it, you fool!
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>>50270630
There are like 3 human characters.
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>>50270619

Scratch that itch with us, anon! Tell us what kind of lewd game you want to run!
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>>50270645
>There are like 3 human characters.

I thought there was only two, and one of them was the swordsman-painter guy.
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>>50270619
Do it.

>>50270630
Hell yeah.
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>>50270575

No, that's about right.

Attack grows MUCH faster than AC over time, and eventually AC becomes totally outpaced and you'll need non-AC ways of mitigating hits (miss chance, etc.)
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>>50270590
It was a joke anon.
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>>50270664
>fighter barb chick
>swordsman-painter
>elementalist
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>>50270642
I meant no one real.

>>50270649
I dunno. I just like making openly lewd NPCs, or a game where people actually acknowledge the fact that the female characters are generally walking around with their tits and ass spilling out of their clothing.

I'd never do it because obvs I'm not trying to ERP with random dudes, but I wouldn't mind being present while it happened.
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>>50270688
Who was the elementalist?
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>>50270262
where da fuck did you get my campaign map you dick
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>>50270694
>I just like making openly lewd NPCs, or a game where people actually acknowledge the fact that the female characters are generally walking around with their tits and ass spilling out of their clothing.

Anon, you may not be aware of this, but that description defines the level of ERP 90% of us here want.
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>>50270688
Wait, didn't the Brawlbarian guy say he was going Human with the Giant-Blooded trait?
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>>50270711
>say he was going Human with the Giant-Blooded trait?

God, I hope not.

A foot-long with inches to spare isn't something to just throw away like that.
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>>50270702
Around
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>>50270705
But he doesn't want to think about the fact that on the other end there could be a grody neckbeard grasping at greasy man meat.
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>>50270734
keep it text only
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>>50270705
>
Not him, but I once GM'd a game of a very lewd town being attacked by rapey, mainly female, orcs.

It was actually pretty dope. I wonder if any of my players are in this thread.
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>>50267620
I tend to just give everything to the devs.

Well I wouldnt if it was paizo, but you know.
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>>50270700
Ameiko-fag.
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>>50270694
>>50270705

What he said. I want a game with innuendo and teasing. Actual sex rp would be strictly regulate to after the game.
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>>50270734

As >>50270738 said, keep it text and just don't think about it.
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>>50270750
yeah seriously who the fuck wants sex in game

thats out of game fun
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>>50270758

Fucking this, my definition of ERP is openly lewd (N)PCs, implied shenanigans off-screen and generally sexy content, any and all sex-stuff should occur in private because that shit slows down the game.
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>>50270738
Some people still have a problem with it. Can't think about it as if they were doing something lewd with another character and instead think about it as doing something lewd with another player.

>>50270747
What's an Ameiko? I'm walking into this campaign blind as my character.
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In a campaign, party is level 1, and I'm a Paladin. We already played our first session which got the ball rolling and next session is this Friday. The rest of my party is pretty squishy, especially since I managed to get 20 strength and a greatsword.

What are some good ways to keep enemies focused on me in combat, or is it just up to the DM to have them decide whether the big scary guy should be a priority or not, and also what are some roles I can provide outside of combat? My character is very theistic, to the point that he doesn't follow regular traditions on dealing with mortal authority, but I don't want to end up playing a Lawful Stupid character.
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>>50270750
No yeah, I don't want to ERP during the game, but I want my ERP to be canon within the setting, after the game y'know, 1 on 1 having "during that downtime" moments with the GM
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>>50270755
>>50270738

>>50270743 here, can confirm text only will let you delve into any amount of lewd. Though as a member of the bi-scum master race I couldn't care less.

>>50270758
>>50270750
There are peeps who like it, it can be fun if you set it up right.
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So, everyone keeps talking about RoTL or whatever and I still haven't once seen a link to any of its info, someone halp me, google refuses to locate it for me.
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>>50270789

I don't know if anyone shares this sentiment, but there are fewer things more cute and turbo-hot as finishing up a session and another player PMs you about a possible 1v1 encounter.

I love those responses, they're like crack.
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>>50270781
>What's an Ameiko?
The NPC you're tying to get on the throne in Jade Regeant.
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>>50270705
I mean, I get that.

But I've got...3 DM'd games and one player game on my plate right now, plus a full time job and work for events/future games I need to cast and put together, so putting together a bunch of randos for a lewd text game isn't exactly a priority for me.

I just think it would be nice to play be in a game where it wasn't weird to hit on or grope the enemies/monsters that happen to be shaped like extremely attractive females.

Cuz like, you should be able to do that.
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>>50270822
Why do we want to put her on the throne?
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>>50270810
Try this link.

https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/forum/1770733/

>>50270833
you'll find out. Plus you can take campaign traits to get a relationship with her. Like best friend or younger sibling.
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>>50270810
I'm back, I mean LotJR, fucking acronyms man.
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>Want to play Jade Regent, because it's cool
>Rewrite the shit out of it. Major overhauls, especially to the beginning to give time to build relationships and ideas about the characters
>This requires players who actually give a single fuck about drama
>They never do. It's always "lolsorandom funny" everything all the time.

Why do I bother? All I've ever wanted is for someone to not interrupt a description, speech, or tense moment with a joke. That's all.
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>>50270852
>https://app.roll20.net/campaigns/forum/1770733/
All I get from that is a page that says "NOT AUTHORIZED"
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>>50270853
>Legend of the Jade Regent.

Seems gandalf has come to join our merry crew here in sandpoint.
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>>50270833
This
>>50270847
>>50270852
The plot kinda assumes you give a shit about the plight of the Kaijitsu's, otherwise your character pretty much has no reason to be endangering themselves and trekking across the planet.
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>>50270630
Isn't the dhampir supposed to be THICC, or is that someone else?
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>>50267871
Must go away from the initiator in the direction of the target. In the first three, a straight line can be drawn from the initiator, through the target, to maximum range. Not so for the 4th.
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>>50270891
Dhampir is a mousy girl that looks like Tomoko
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>>50270891

This is why you play Burnt Offerings first.

>>50270897

Dhampir is a painfully slender imouto, the THICC ones are Sweet Tooth and Oni-Girl.

Wolf-girl isn't THICC, she's busty.
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>>50270891
>>50270913

Yeah its the first chapter of rise of the runelords then you do jade regent right after.
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Lots of people talking about Jade Regent but...not Jade Regent?

Any info on what changes were made/added?

My JR mashup is basically:

>1/2 of the Burnt Offerings
>1/3 of Dragon's Demand
>Mix in a bit of homebrew to tie them together
>Proceed to Brinewall Legacy

And then a lot of extra content after that.
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>>50270930
See
>>50270928
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>>50270930
>Any info on what changes were made/added?

It's just Burnt Offerings followed into Brinewall Legacy.
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>>50270852
Pssst, could I get a different link, that one just says not authorized
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New thread
>>50270955
>>50270955
>>50270955
>>50270955
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>>50270913
>>50270928
Yeah, but it doesn't hurt to actually start out with connections/motivations/opinions of starting NPCs.

And Ameiko really doesn't have that big of a role in Burnt Offerings anyway. Only reason I can really see doing that is to make an excuse for more cosmopolitan PCs(which isn't necessarily a bad thing).
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>>50270852
Are they worth taking? Do you need some sort of personal ties to her to want her to succeed? How intimately does a PC need to know her?

>>50270891
How are most of the other PCs entangled in this? Is just wanting to help someone who seems nice out plus the trust you and your allies made in the RotRL portion enough or am I going to have to find some connection to this person on a deeper level?
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>>50270951

If it says not authorized it means you need to log in to roll20.net
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>>50270939
>>50270928
Somehow, I'm picturing people just cracking BO and running it right out of the book without any concept of how many failed loose ends they're leaving and how it doesn't flow properly.

But then, that's just how I assume most people operate APs.
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>>50270961
We're on page four you dunce.
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>>50270821
Me too anon, me too.
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>>50270980

Ideally, the party hangs out with Ameiko throughout Burnt Offerings and spends the first half of Brinewall Legacy enjoying her company between expeditions into Brinestump Marsh.
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>>50270912
>Mousy grill
>Doggo grill
Where is the Tomcat to complete this trilogy??
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>>50270966
I mean Jade Reagent has stuff where you're related to other NPCs
If you mean PC's posted here then all I can recall
>one guy is in love with ameiko
>two of them are sisters
>one was raised by Shalelu, Ameiko's elf friend.
Granted, anyone who is a Sandpoint native would know her.
>>50271006
Also this.
Also, plot device makes you an heir to the throne or something. Because what the fuck is the point of family artifacts if it just imbues any tom dick and harry that finds them?
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>>50270913
>Wolf-girl
Isn't there two wolf-girls?
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>>50271006
Except you have the completely wasted and unresolved stories of Aldern, and the going-nowhere fight with Nualia that makes no sense going forward (because she's not part of a larger organization and even if she was it wouldn't make sense for them to follow you).

Dragon's Demand is much better because:
>It's got cooler shit to see and do
>You get a hot Shae companion
>It comes pre-packaged with a Green Dragon that you can have chase the party as they ride away from Sandpoint, and be an actual threatening ongoing enemy.

It takes a little bit of writing to tie them together, but the end result is much, much better.
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>>50271059
>Except you have the completely wasted and unresolved stories of Aldern

What? Aldern in Burnt Offerings is just a kinda quirky nobleman, and Nualia's plot beginning and ending in Book 1 is a good thing because it keeps the story self-contained.
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>>50271051
Now that the thread is ded, would having Ameikio look like exactly like someone the PC knew once be too cliched? Someone that the PC messed up with and who's smile he couldn't protect?
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>>50271114
Yes
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>>50271089
>Aldern in Burnt Offerings is just a kinda quirky nobleman,
Except he's fucking not. When you meet him in Burnt Offerings, he's in Sandpoint literally a day or two after fleeing from his haunted mansion where he fucking murdered his wife and spiraled into a massive drug addiction and went broke. He was sent there to get shit from his dad's corpse, and ran away.

Except, they don't tell you this in Burnt Offerings. They only tell you this at the beginning of the second book. Which is why whenever I see someone talk about Aldern like a "quirky nobleman", it means they haven't read the books and they're probably a shit DM because of it.

>and Nualia's plot beginning and ending in Book 1 is a good thing because it keeps the story self-contained.
That's kind of the point. It's not a good story, and it's NOT self-contained because it's designed to open very specific questions about the who, what, and why of the place Nualia is encountered in. She's just the initial draw, the real reason her fight is there is to foreshadow and give hints to the Runelords.

Which, if you're not going to ever use, is just bad storytelling.
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>>50267248
have dmed 5e for 7 months or so, would buying the starter pack for PF be agood way to learn the game?
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>>50271141
But aldern can be a quirky nobleman, and honestly i think he's better presented to the players that way because it makes his reveal as being the skinsaw man all the more shocking.
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>>50271130
Yes as in to cliched or yes as in yes do it.
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>>50271149
don't fucking buy the core rulebook

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
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>>50271141
>>50271059
If I just absolutely HAD to merge Burnt Offerings and the rest of Jade Reagent, I'd just drop the Runelord stuff.

Goblin attack was a gambit by Tsuto to distract his father so her could steal the letter about Brinewall.
>>50271172
Yes as in cliched.
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>>50271185
Rip. Back to the drawing board.
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>>50271185
>Goblin attack was a gambit by Tsuto to distract his father so her could steal the letter about Brinewall.
Anyway, he kidnaps Ameiko because he needs her to do plot stuff related to the seals. PC's go to rescue her, then head to Brinewall to collect the seals.
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>>50271203
That doesnt mean don't do it anon.
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>>50271168
>But aldern can be a quirky nobleman,

But why? The story works much better if you replace Aldern with Sandru at the beginning, and then remove the boar hunt (because it's a shitty padding encounter only designed to fill XP tracks) since it adds nothing to the story, and it both sets up Sandru for later while trimming fat on a worthless character who you're not going to do anything with.

>because it makes his reveal as being the skinsaw man all the more shocking.
Yeah, shocking because when the players learn what supposedly happened to Aldern literally the week they met him, they are gonna be like "Wait what? The guy we met was clearly not a broke drug-addict who's hiding from an assassin cult and recently strangled his own wife", because he's clearly not that.

You want to do it well? Actually incorporate those things into how you play him at the initial meeting. Make him weird and quirky because he's intentionally evasive and vague, trying to mask his grief. THAT will be a good NPC.

And let's not even talk about how badly Skinsaw Murders needs to have a chainsaw taken to it so it can be Frankenstein'd back together into something coherent.
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>>50271173
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
I know about that thanks, but i think sooner or later i will have to if i start dming, because it happened with D&D as well, i can't focus on digital media for the life of me, with the books is whole different feeling. I mean i've seen the ammount of books in the shops, i will probably try it a year from now. I just spent 120€ on D&D so yeh that's not happening now. Thanks anyway
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>>50271238
You're sending me mixed messages anon. I want to play it, especially because it plays really well into what I already had for my background.
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>>50271268
fucking steal the pdfs and print out relevant pages.
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>>50271271

If you wanna play it, play it. Just have fun doing it or it'll seem tacky
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>>50271271
I'm not that guy, I say don't do it.


Unless you're character is supposed to be a selfish asshole, "I'm going to use you as my second chance because you conveniently resemble my former X" is really goddamn cheesy. Like bad lifetime movie cheesy.
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>>50271185
>Goblin attack was a gambit by Tsuto to distract his father so her could steal the letter about Brinewall.

But that's why Dragon's Demand works so well.

>You can keep the "Tsuto is doing it for a woman he loves" thing by changing Nualia to a Swamp Witch or something similar who'd serve a Green Dragon
>The Sandpoint attack was a distraction so the Dragon's minions (goblins or kobolds, take your pick) can steal the Book from the Wizard
>The party gets ahold of the Book, this makes them the target/enemy of the Dragon
>You can have the PCs go to a Fort+Cave to fight the Woman and the Goblin tribe she enthralled, basically exactly like Thistletop.
>The auction is a perfect setup for Ameiko to start wanting to sell and move out.
>You can segue perfectly into Brinewall Legacy by having Goblins attack the merchants on the road.

It's got everything; Cool events and villains, plenty of time for relationship development, and high stakes that continue into the campaign.

Plus, you get to hand the players the Secrets of the Dreaming Dark which is written up in Occult Adventures. It's a good package.
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>>50271309
I know you have to go 100% with things like that. I think that's the rule with most things though.

>>50271315
I'm not even saying it in a lewd or loving way. I was thinking it's more just someone they failed to protect and that kinda haunts them. Less anime waifu bait and more vietnam veteran.
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>>50268401
Ink eyes has: A ratfolk tailblade (i'd personally give it the statblock of kobold razored tail), a non-fucked kusari-gama (I'd give it a 1d8/1d6 slashing stablock) and some form of sword, probably one of the 18-20/x2 ones.

I'd say her two hand-weapons are both treated as some form of temple-sword, and her blade-attachments for weapon & tail are both treated as roughly the same thing.
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>>50271354
Could be an interesting hook, I suppose.
Elaborate on exactly what happened.
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>>50271515
I'll be giving away who I am but I doubt the GM reads all the threads so he won't know about my bad initial thoughts for my characters. I was thinking about tieing it into the attack on the monastery where my character grew up. Same attack that gave him the lame curse and that caused him to set out on a pilgrimage to figure out his faith and how even with powerful gods in the world evil still exists. I was thinking it would fit in well with the whole new cathedral reason for PCs to be in town in the RotRL plot hook.
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>>50271658
Tie it all together with an outward appearance of the wandering monk who's on a search for enlightenment, even if they aren't the brightest. A bit of a past that they don't like to talk about, and a rather jovial nature.
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Thank you for the attempts to cheer me up last thread. They helped a bit!
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>>50272007
Thank you anon for staying happy!
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>>50272074
Adam Sandler poster, you make me happy in particular!
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