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Infinity General - WEN FAT YUAN YUAN? edition

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Infinity is a 28mm scale futuristic skirmish game by Corvus Belli where impossible standards are made.

>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php

>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/

>Rules wikis:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page
http://www.infinitythewiki.com/en/Main_Page

>Rules Wiki Offline Backup
https://mega.nz/#!Dxs3VbKQ!_tRgLeIszkdMBvnpCFE4xHELtngLRL26cexppwmAIws

>Official Army Builder:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/

>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/

>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

>N3 Reverse Index Web App (a bit outdated as of HSN3 but still a bit viable to look at)
http://n3index.bastian-dornauf.de/

>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc

>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ

>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf

>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446

>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8
>Operation Red Veil Missions (different toilet, same shit)
http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/xjlY6Mip/file.html

>The RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game

>WIP Tactica
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Infinity_Tactics

>RPG Character Creation
http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/

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>>50239915

One link removed because it wasn't working
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>>50264723

Awesome, pretty much everything you would want.
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>>50265608
I really want a couple of minis with the fat yuan's body type. Maybe a desperado or a bakunin unit with cat ears.
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It's the future. Why would anyone be fat? Fat people are disgusting.
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>>50266281
Because they choose to be fat and medical technology can make it harmless.

Also, Ariadna is borderline WWII era tech, right down to them having fucking battle rifles instead of assault rifles. Seriously, fuck this +0 first band bulsshit when modern assault rifles are primarily designed for close quarters.
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>>50265929
imo It suffers from a degree from that starter box problem of not giving you the full set of SWC guns. If run as a list it also features slightly weird order distribution since you wind up sticking the excellent Clipsos in a puny 4 man group.

To extract profit, proxy the Ectros as HMG, then use the points from the Clipsos to upgrade one of the Makauls/Kamael into, say, Aelis for her sensor/specialist/viral setup. That way each of your triads can have a badass.
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>>50266543
Will they ever fix this favoring of 16+ orders bullshit? Really bothers me how everything with ~10 orders is instantly thought of as shit by most.
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>>50265608
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>>50266689
>Implying such a hideous fatty would have a PH matching that of android Brad Pitt.

Come on now.
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>>50266729
I know right? It should have the PH of a Caskuda.

and Explode
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>>50266607
>10 orders is shit
That's because limited insertion is poo. But letting people horde is also poo.

CB pls
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>>50265608
We have Space Catholics, represented in PanO.
We have Space Muslims, represented in Haqq.
Where's our Space Jews?
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>>50267066
Hassassin Govad got them all.
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>>50267066
Palestinians won after the US fell
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>>50267112
kek
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>>50266407
>they choose to be fat
Are future people retarded?
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>>50267142
Just look at current population and assume human character won't change in large degree in coming centuries.
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>>50266607
13-15 is the sweet spot. All the top lists at Interplanterary were in that range.
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>>50267169
Yeah, most people are fat today because they are weak and lazy. When you can sit around all the time, eat whatever you want, and then take a swallow of nanobots to eliminate that fat, there won't be fat people.
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>>50267142
>>50267169
It is stated in the RPG thatPeople in this future are almost all beautiful and must have really fast metabolisms due to decades of GATTACA style genetic augmentation.

Take a moment to imagine how much this guy must be eating every day to get that big in spite of these gene mods.
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So i've come to ask for some help. I've got a league game coming up and im preparing against my opponent, Currently, I may have one of three enemies, Haq Vanilla, Yu Jing Vanilla and PanO vanilla. I play aleph vanilla . Currently i want to know what units are good against these factions. Thank you, and have a picture
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>>50267187
>Implying some Bakunin hobag wouldn't want to sample that sweet sweet XXXXXL ass.
/fit/uture pls
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>>50267187
Fat is a fetish, too. 'S why I said Bakunin and Ariadna. One has the disgusting freaks that need to draw all characters ever fat when drawing porn and the other doesn't even have the technology to make shit we have today.
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>>50267256
USAriadna also has a Cola factory.

Delicious fatties injected with corn syrup isn't gong away any time soon.
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>>50267201
Vanilla factions have so many options that just knowing what they are doesn't neccessarily mean a player will bring particular build, at least compared to sectorials.

That said, there are some common tropes. PanO for example probably bring some form of msv unit, either Nisse, Aquila or both, and this reduce the effectiveness of TO, ODD and regular smoke. This doesn't make them worthless, but don't build your battle plan around those.

Buy th Yu Jing and PanO wull probably ne ng something hackable, so a Assault hacker infiltrator has a real change to do something in reactive round.

One of the most dreaded vanilla haqq combos is Saladin + fidays, so keep that in mind when deploying. If the opponent has strategos lvl 3, be extra careful to not group your models so that a surprise boardingshotgun template doesn't ruin your game.
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>>50267330
>implying corn can be grown in icy hellhole called planet Dawn
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>>50267361
>antipodes are space injuns
>injuns had corn
>antipodes have space corn
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>>50267344
Their is a higher chance that i will be up against Haq, so i was thinking of bringing ODD and or TO cameo.
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>>50267409
>antipode corn
>a-corn

Poor Ariadnans.
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>>50267361
Dawn is quite temperate. If it weren't for the constant threat of Antipode attack it would be a really nice place.

You're thinking of Svalarheima.
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>>50267409
>>50267361
>>50267435
This is my new headcanon.

Corntipodes.
They're really just misunderstood maize farmers.
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I wish we had an antipode sectorial or faction. Too bad the Tohaa have the three guy fireteams covered.

Wait, what if. What if antipodes can join tohaa fireteams?
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>>50267536
Nah, Dawn is pretty chilly. Remeber that most of the human settlements are located near equator.
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What are ways to counter MS V1?
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>>50267688
Only way I think it could be reasonably included in official way is to make a special army list for them akin to the Auroran security detail in Paradiso prologue scenarios.
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>>50267747
White noise and similar MS blocking effects
Regular smoke
Brute force
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>>50267688
>Warband sectorial
Sounds p gud mang
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>>50267813
Regular antipode
Chief antipode
Escapee antipode

What else there is to field?
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>>50267857
Shaman antipode (low tech hacker)
Medicine Man antipode
Blowgun antipode
Tiki mask antipode
Poison Frog antipode
Tracker/Runner antipode
Pygmypode
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I've been pretty disappointed in the sniper rifle bounty hunter lately.
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>>50267813
They would have fireteams to turn them regular, i think this would open a lot of venues so they aren't just warbands running around warbanding. The lore is that they turn smart when together, afterall.

Some notes:
>there are S2 antipodes, the russian HVT has one on his combat model.
This explains itself, slightly larger than human antipodes for regular troops
>antipodes are smart enough to use tools, they natively use bows, melee weapons and drums
It should not be hard to imagine them adopting ariadna tech, much like the native americans with settler technology.
>fireteam antipode
I don't know how this would differentiate from triad and enomotarcos, since it would feel like yet another "you can have a ton of fireteams" rule.
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>>50267174
>implying 10 orders limited insertion aren't competitive
>tfw being this pleb

Warsaw pliss..., 13-15 is polack's sweetspot, 10 is the sacred number.
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Also, S2 antipodes riding native fauna. They get their own motorcycle rule variant that lets them climb while mounted and stuff.
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>>50267026
Nah limited insertion was great.
Your face however was poo
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>>50268065
>Antipode beetle knights when.

>>50268024
Maybe you could get Chiefs with various levels or something that would give you more or less teams. Or otherwise manage the number you can take.

>It should not be hard to imagine them adopting ariadna tech, much like the native americans with settler technology.
I never knew how much I needed this.

>S2 antipodes
Pygmypodes confirmed.


>>50268107
Oh yea?
Well you're antipode poo!
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>>50268175
>Well you're antipode poo!
Nah, your mother is.
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>>50268216
Joan is best mum.
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>>50268278
Not sure if I like that new riot grill her titties look weird as fug.
Are the nips seriously pointing skyward?
Like what?
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>>50268297
Sexy girl antipodes in thongs and loincloths as their engineers.
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>>50268333
lewd

also fund it.
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>>50268278
The balance on passive models and the aggresive/dinamic ones are cool. But eh, expect that Riot grillzz are the one who do the insane stunt like any others starter HIs do, but eh maybe thats because the big guy was the morlocks this time.

Dem Moira's hips tho.
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>>50268318
YESS

Another cute girl for my Guijia
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>>50268318
Yeeeesssssss
>>50268355
Eehhh..... I could take it or leave it.
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>>50268249
Joan is ded
Your mother is a robuts
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>>50268674
Rowr!
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>>50266689
I like to think instead of smoke templates this guy puts actual, hopefully empty cans of beer on the table to block line of sight.
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>>50268674
Unf.

I've waited so long.
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>>50268742
>ALEPH HRL
Slave to the machine, I see.
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>>50268278
>terrible riot grl
Is that a jab on feminazis having tiny brains? Either way, somethings serioulsy off with that scale.
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>>50268024
>there are S2 antipodes, the russian HVT has one on his combat model.
>said HVT is S4 because of that very antipode
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>>50268738
>BEER CAN
>DECOY
>A Beer Can can be placed on the board following normal rules for minelaying. When an opposing model enters the Beer Can ZoC they must immediately spend the rest of their movement getting as close to it as possible. Once a model enter b2b with a Beer Can remove it from the board.
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>>50268759
That exposed neck looks utterly silly.
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>>50268945
The head only looks smaller because of the hair. And I'm pretty sure it's the tits that look strange.
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>>50268967
The antipode is smaller than the other antipodes (Compare to cracker buddy and the slaves). Rather, it seems to be S4 because there are two faggots there.

Tho, more accurately, it seems to be S3
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>>50268278
I don't know my way around nomads at all, but isn't this starter yet another deviation form the norm, like the ASA one, except in the other direction?
I mean, only two generic cheerleaders?
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>>50268945
Not everyone was a thiccheaded freak like those morlocks brah.
And womens tend to have thinner skull, also her being helmet and hairless doesn't help it.
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>>50269197
Maybe they are aiming to sell rifle blisters.
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>>50268278
I think the Moderator still has bunny ears!
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>>50268411
>>50268449
>>50268464
This makes me wish Order Sergeants were not as lackluster.
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>>50269176
>Tho, more accurately, it seems to be S3
>55mm base
>existing profile in Infinity Army, hmm let's see, S4
>seems to be S3
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>>50269197
Yes, it will be a kind of cheap kicks for your collection instead of real starter.

But knowing how Bakunins works, morlocks can make a decent moderator proxy.
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>>50268775
I don't think there is a single PanO HRL aside from Sergeants.
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>>50269269
>Base with TWO tiny figures
>The antipode is totally S4 because the profile for the unit is S4!!
The other antipodes take their whole base, they are fucking horse sized. Grisha (The antipode with Voronin) is about the size of a new Pan-O knight while on two legs. It's bulky S2, pushing into S3.
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R8 my model case
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>>50269477
Needs more nudity to offend parents on pokemon night.
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>>50269477
>Obvious /k/ poster
6/10 but you go back to 1/10 for that shitty harambe patch.
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>tfw no Ariadna. Again.
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>>50268411
>>50268449
>>50268464
So, normal sergeants get 1 antenna and
specialists get 2?
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Raicho pilot when?
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So I've been taking a bit of a break for the past several months, did anything come from that ALIVE thing?
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>>50269701
When you can beat her in an armwrestle.
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>>50269477
I thought it was Rack Tap Bang, not Tap Rack Bang
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>>50269654
Seems so.
Konstantinos and the Spitfire Sergeant have two antennas as well. Sniper TO Sergeant has only one, but that could be because he was the first one.
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>>50269743
Time to hit the old gym
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>>50269701
We need more Morat girls. Rock hard monkey abs are surprisingly sexy.
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>>50269730
EI starts shitposting after PanO higher ups try to make Toni Macayana into a war hero for getting her ass fried while sitting in an office chair wearing an occulus rift. On the game side: several missions focused heavily on TAGS in a short campaign/tournament mission set and a model of Toni's TAG. It's neat, but not several months of build up neat.
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So aesthetically which Infinity army is most Imperial Guardish?
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>>50271758
With how technology works on infinity, it's kinda hard to paint anyone dying as anything more than a very unfortunate accident. Seeing as people are pretty much immortal due to cubes, backups and shieet.

It's pretty much DBZ tier trivialization, except you have to become an order sargeant and gather rewards points to revive people instead of gathering dragon balls. Tryong to talk about a soldier's noble sacrifice is more like saying "this guy was so shit, we ain't bothering to bring him back"
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>>50271844
I haven't played warhammer, but i'm pretty sure these guys are flat out plagiarized imperial guard dudes. They're only missing bigass eagles on their head.
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>>50271844
Depends on how you're do your IGs, m8
But Haqqislam and Ariadna are the safest bet, if by IG is "much Liners and a few hard hitters" kind of thing.
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>>50271844
Ariadna, or more specifically, USAriadna. Basic rifles. Flame throwers. Heavy Machine Guns. Cheap and plentiful dudes available. Sick vehicles. Giant mutants doing dirty work.
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>>50272009
>giving guardsmen anything more than a flak jacket
do you even grimdark?
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>>50272042
Literally Marauders.
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>>50272042
>Impliying all guardsmen are dirty cadians

Dude, do you even Warhawks?
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>>50272115
Aw man, ariadna doesn't get to jet pack. Only parachutes.
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>>50271855
It's not quite that easy in Infinity. Then of course there is always the question of, "Is the one brought back any more than just a copy. Albeit a nigh-perfect one". Cube destruction (get you head blow off), capture (and subsequent horrific interrogation/torture) and corruption. Are all real threats. Doubled down on when fighting the EI.

Then when you get to Toni, she's the example of the example. The one you /would/ bring back, and in general shouldn't even be dying. She did, and they couldn't. Hense the martyr-attempt by PanO and the counter-psy-ops.
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>>50272173
Should read, Toni is an example of the exception.
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>>50272173
>Melee specialist
>In PanO
>In a Tikbalang
Hmm... I'm pretty sure the reason is not because "We couldn't".
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>>50267857
>>50267892

hidden Tohaa masters
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>>50268510
Hopefully the new box of Riot Grrls will be more dynamic in pose. That was one of the complaints with the current box

>>50268945
She's just missing the antennas.

>>50269197
The Hassassin Bahram and MO boxes were also pretty irregular compared to the 'standard' 3 line troopers + HI + etc etc.

>>50269243
She does. I'm glad they kept it on her.

>>50268297
>>50268318
Unf!

>>50268626
>>50268637
these are still dumb looking

>>50269015
The renders has the neck covered with the servo-muscle-thing textures.
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>>50272328
I think a few tohaa models in the sectorial, if it used triad fireteams, would be very good. Much like how Bread Ocean has Skynet units in some lists. A sort of "The Tohaa negotiated the truce between these couple of tribes and the Ariadna government" deal because of operating in threes kinship. In which case, they could sneak in some Tohaa junk on the antipodes, too.
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>>50272149
Thats why you'll better go with Haqqs, my friend.

>Religious fanatics (but still a best drinking buddy around)
>Basically a Tallarn, but with more techs
>Manly as fuck, yes even the women
>can 1v1 with muhreen
>Best LI around, only need flak jacket, AKs and balls of steel to get shit done
>So badass they can one-hand a .50 cal without issue
>Not a dirty yankees
>Have a tanks, not those stinky not!gundam shit

Convert now, and you'll got a voucher for 24/7 personal examination by dr. Jamilla Ph.d herself

EMPRAHUAKBAR!!
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>>50272454
>Implying you want to be caught dead in america with haqqs
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Thinking about the wasted potential of antipodes here. But, it would probably be really cool if we dumped a bunch of traditional remote roles on them, too. Instead of dumping all of them on the fucking boring ass Traktor Muls.

Antipode with sensor, sniffers and baggage
Antipode with missile pack
Antipode with total reaction and HMG
Antipode with G:Servant
Antipode wardriver merc with repeaters


Kinda like how the chaksa do this for the tohaa.
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>>50272009
They also don't look like complete shit.
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>>50272466
>Implying murica still exist

They're ded anon, killed themself after Trunk thinks that using nanobots for an absolute domination was good idea.

All that left is those stinkin yankees in faraway backyard, playing 'hunters and werewolves' while fapping on twighlight 24/8 nonstop.

They're still our bros thought.
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>>50272546
Warhammer just has ugly miniaures in general.
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>>50272572
Well, atleast the Skitarii are not look like a total ass thought, they're in fact pretty cool.
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>>50271758
so wait, did they resurrect her? or is she still canonically dead and we just get a model?
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>>50272679
Her cube got shrekt by super hacking. She's permanently dead.
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>>50272703
Ok, cool. Thats what I thought but maybe CB said "fuck that" and brought her back anyway.
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>>50272466
>Implying anyone in america gives a shit

Aside from a diehard /pol/acks, even Trump himself doesn't want to risk in creating controversial shit and lost 50% of his market thay was mostly come from a muslim country, just because a spaniard miniature dating sims.

Doesn't need to overthink it man....
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According to the seminar, no black jacks in 2017

Feels bad man
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>The symbiomate is making the :3 face
>The symbiobomb is making the :3 face
>The tohaa's helmet is also making the :3 face
>Tohaas actually value the number three because it looks like the mouth on a kitty face
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>>50272800
Figures,
CB is quickly reaching Poots levels of time mismanagement. I haven't been motivated to finish my shit at all with all the delays and hearsay.
>USARIADNA WILL BE A COMPLETE ARMY BY THE BEGINNING OF THE ITS SEASON.
Literally useless spics.
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>>50272800
Is cool, we got Az'rails and Al Faseed and Taskmasters. Just gotta get your proxy on a little.
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>>50272847
It seems like they have released more models in the last year and what's passed of this one, than their company's entire history up to that point. Kinda have to cut them some slack when you really think about it.
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>>50272867
Azrails are the only cool models of those 3 though.

Al fasids looks terrible with their "shooting the small gun while holding the big gun at ease" and the super bent barrel on the HRL.

Taskmasters are stupid manlets and don't look at all like a ariadna unit.
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>>50272892
And they've also got all the fluff checking for the RPG to do.
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>>50272899
Taskmasters look like halo dudes.
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>>50272892
>Kinda have to cut them some slack when you really think about it.
At this point the amount of shit they've hyped without actually delivering is pathetic. And the excuses aren't really cutting it anymore.
>We had to go to the mojave and spraypaint cars!
>ACHERON FALLS 2016!
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>>50272927
It's like you're giving me more reasons to hate them.
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>>50272950
I don't like them myself, they clash with nearly everything in the nomad army.
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>>50267066
REMOVE ALEPH REMOVE ALEPH
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>>50272867
actually...how legit would a list with Az'rails and Al'fasids be?
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>>50272569

>inb4 all those 'aussies' are actually yanks/poms with bad accents
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How can i paint this shit without airbrush?
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>>50273164
use a brush
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>>50273164
>tfw you only use airbrush for basecoats.
With a paintbrush?

They don't have to look like angels shit.
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>Listening to Bostria on his current level of involvement in design as the art director
>"In fact, I've been having to draw troops again, it's been a long time since I had to design troops. At most, I only had to draw someone's ass. Like "Give me that back view, it's boring.". "
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>>50273176
>>50273180
But that will look not good
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>>50273204
keep doing it until it does? its called practice. Or buy and airbrush and have it also look not good. Your stuff will be trash until you put in the work.
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>>50272466
>he doesn't want to draw his cryss knife along with his other fremen brothers to drive the infidels from Du- I mean Bourak
LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS
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>>50273164
Apart from primer, I only use brushes. These miniatures paint themselves lad, as long as you thin yo paints and use glazes.
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>>50273185
Bostria is too good for this world. He does not deserve the faggots bitching on the forums about Techbee asses, especially when the Guijia pilot's ass is far superior.
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>>50272927
Are they really as small as they look in the promo shots?

>>50272847
>Poots levels of time mismanagement
>Doing another KDM Kickstarter next week
I'll probably pledge, but, fucking christ!, I hope he's learned his lessons from the first KDM ks.

>>50272930
Yeah, they did say that really behind schedule.
But at this point I've lost all interest in USARF. Kinda regret buying that shit. The Marauders are dull as fuck and doesn't reignite any interest. I feel somewhat jaded about ISS, but YJ has had a great year (could use new CGs and Kuang Shi though and JSA is still playing with fugly models).

I really like that new bakunin starter, but I'm going to hold back until they actually deliver with the releases/resculpts.
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>>50273510
Shotgun marauder and Sniper Marauder look so fucking stiff. But "I'm gonna kill this faggot" molotok guy and Voyeur HRL look pretty good. They don't feel offensively bad to me.

I do find their profiles underwhelming when compared to the minutemen, tho. Seeing as they often hold lesser loadouts for nearly the same cost.
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>>50273185
Bestria
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>>50273589
They're not bad - just boring. They're suppose to be stealthy jungle fighters. The sniper would've been my favorite because it has a lot of fortitude/stoicism in the sculpt, but so does almost every model in the army making them all look so lethargic.

Also the MSV1 Binoculars are stupid. I guess they look with one hand and shoot with the other using a HRL/Sniper Rifle? Should've just stuck it on the helmet like the Briscards
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>>50272899
>Al fasids looks terrible with their "shooting the small gun while holding the big gun at ease" and the super bent barrel on the HRL.

Fuck you, they're awesome, both on stat and minis. And those superbend barrels can be fixed with ease.

The only Az'rail that cool was the HMG one, and her "shield" was ruined it.

>>50272985
>It clash with entire nomads

You mean our halo space men aren't fit in a faction with technowizardy and ship so full of wierd shit it makes Lady Gaga closet look sensible in comparison?
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Listening to Bostria talking about the techbee

>"This next one is for people over eighteen"
>"I don't know if you remember, but this girl was in a bootleg"
>"What's in this dossier? There's a pistol... and a knife..."
>Beat
>"This gal, in a thong in a war. What's this? What is this? What is this? This had not been seen before"
>"This is what? This is completely indecent (lewd?), guys. And she's got a pistol and a knife."
> Inaudible comment
>"No, because PanOceania tights (jumpsuits? Leggings?) are for remote presence. This gal has never been a pilot, she's maintenance department. So, what is this? Well, I don't know what it is"
> Inaudible comment
>"Yes, yes, a Techbee, that we know; but what does it mean that she has a pistol and a knife? What is this? Indecent is what it is, guys. And all she's got is a pistol and a knife."
>switch to miniature render
>"And this is the pose she got on her pin up"
>Spanish babble akin to "Oh yes, mamacita." followed by lewd laughing.
>"I'm not telling you anything else, I'm leaving you with this tease. So, you can go to the forums and besides asking "What is this?" say it's sexist and... So the members of the forum can discuss (argue?)"

Just in case some people don't have the context for the techbee.
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>>50273510
>Are they really as small as they look in the promo shots?

Nah, he'll be as big as other S5 like Fasid, its just they don't split it legs much so it doesn't cover as much base as the other 2.

And miniature's box shots are mostly makes the actual minis looks more shorter and stacked, so it not as accurate as it must be.
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>This is the rejected Unknown Ranger design
It's nearly the same as the final design, but with a nicer looking shield.

Dunno why they went with the ugly new one. Could've gone with a heater shield or something else less ugly and bulky.
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>>50273942
>"I'm not telling you anything else, I'm leaving you with this tease. So, you can go to the forums and besides asking "What is this?" say it's sexist and... So the members of the forum can discuss (argue?)"
Absolutely based
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>>50272927
>>50273942
>Halo dudes

I am not seeing it, and I like Halo up to Reach, 343 A SHIT.

If anything the Taskmaster looks like an Iron Man-ified Khornate Berzerker.

>>50274080
Maybe that would have strayed too close to the getting your ass sued zone?
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>>50274080
Oh right they completely fucked the Unknown Ranger model so if you didn't get the limited one you have to settle for tactical fist trash.

Thanks for reminding me of that.

Even this baby hippo can't quell my unfathomable USAriadna based rage.
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>>50272115
>cadians
>dirty
enjoy your flak salad, flyboy. get out of the way and let the professionals do their job.
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>>50274080
That because they're smart enought to actualy read the LAW, they avoid on making shitstorm alltogether than delve into it.

Unlike a certain a plasticrack kartel.....
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>>50274100
That is what Bostria implies when talking about it. Tho, I think the final official color scheme they went with would've made it different enough for the shape of the shield to not have mattered on it's own.

It's just that the final shield looks so ugly in the sculpt. Hell, it actually looks presentable in the concept art.
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>>50274178
>Cadians
>Pro

AHAHAHA

You heard that lad, a certain glorified pitdwellers are "profesionals" now.

Don't worry anon, we'll make sure that your sorry ass will shine for 30 minutes longer.
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>>50273813
>stealthy jungle fighters
Naw, stealth doesn't mean stealthy in infinity. Can't hide or nothing with it. And I don't think a 4-2 unit will ever get to the point where it is flanking an enemy from the back within zone of control. And it doesn't even have weapons or CC to make use of it.

Why the fuck do these assholes have stealth again? Mimetism or cammo would have made more sense if they are "stealthy".
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This is supposed to be a black guy. But, the sculptor went and hid his face.
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>>50274229
"Warhawks" minis where?
Ever win any armed conflicts?
Ever defend any significant or important sector of imperial space?
Sorry, can't hear you over the eye of terror
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>>50274293
take your 40k autism to a related thread

thanks
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>>50274171
I don't mind tactical fists. On units with FIRETEAM. Like, who the fuck is he giving tactical fisting to? Himself?
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>It's fucking colossus!
There better be a nomad guy with a light flamethrower attached to his helmet.

I need to optic blast.
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>>50272454
>not dirty yankees

You might want to reread the fluff. Threadly reminder that Haqqs are the one true descendant of US. Not the shiny PanO, not the offshoot colony project.
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>>50274436
The terrorists truly won.
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>>50274448
>no Jimmy, WE are the terrorists
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>>50274293
> Minis
>Can't just kitbash guards with Elysian jumpacks
You mean "baby first" stock minis? nah, we're don't need them. Were made by pros that already dedicated to actual modelling.

>Wins
Alot, look at the imperialkillscore.com
Oh, don't have a comp, well expected from a ditchrat eh?

>Ever defend any significant or important sector of imperial space?
Don't need, were always in the tip on the spear mate. And we're rekt anything without even a notice.
Thats why Inquisitor always count on us, the REAL professional soldier.
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>>50274448
Our jihad throught science and UNDERSTANDING are truly comes to fruition brother.

Unlike those loud, raving maniacs those infidels are like to glorifies from.
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>>50274262
they sneak the fuck up on a horribly postioned drop troop who scattered like a dumb asshole
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>Bostria is implying there is a reason why there are so many pilot minis coming out
>Pilots are going to count as specialists for ITS missions
>"And what about remote tags?! Not saying anything, but they will come with a template, now."
>Asked whether the techbee will be related
>"Techbee will be playable, will be something like a warcor." (Doesn't specify whether she is related, but uses suspect wording)

Now the question is whether she pops out of the remote tag's template or if she's literally a warcor type mini that is used for campaign stuff.
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>>50266407
WW2 tech
Have power armour autonomous attack bots and stealth choppers.
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>>50274610
Not on the table~
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>>50274693
>Not on the table~
>Traktor muls
>Not on the table
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>>50274262
They're described as stealthily moving through dense jungles for their attack.

They have Forward Deployment L1. A fireteam: Core/Haris with Stealth, support weapons, specialist options, and 4 extra inches of deployment ain't too shabby.
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>>50266407
Ariadna is a mismash of modern tech and near-future tech, with guts and survivalism filling the gaps.

Those rifles are chambered to fight fucking giant monsters, and do a pretty good job engaging enemy soldiers clad in powered armor. Given that the other factions have fancy techno-rifles, they're probably shooting humongous bullets, that the Not-AKs are reliably putting out, with gutsy determination controlling the horrible recoil instead of any fancy-pants PanO computerized dampening mechanism.

Also, the +3 from combi rifles comes in part from them being smartguns that auto-aim.
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>>50274719
Literally WWII artillery. Like, literally literally and not figuratively literally.
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>>50274765
>Literally WWII artillery.
Literally drones.
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>>50274752
Giant monsters with 1 wound and 0 armor. Also, modern assault rifles are designed for close quarters battle first, so they would actually have a bonus on the first band instead of the second. Second band preferred engagement is a characteristic of battle rifles.
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>>50274291
Just add some chicken and watermelon on his base if you want to accent his blackness more.
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>>50274785
Katyusha rockets, the ones used by the Mul, are WWII tech. It's why it can't hit the broad side of a barn, unless it's right next to it.

The Mul is a remote controlled artillery platform, which is actually a waste, as artillery platforms don't move much, nor seek to engage enemies. So, it would actually be cheaper and more effective for it to be manned. Hell, might as well not mount it on a platform at all and launch them from off-site. Oh wait, they are WWII era, can't launch them from off-site, they wouldn't hit anything.

Application-wise, all you have is a WWII rocket on a WWII era cart equivalent (It's just extra fancy!).


At least the Urugan is cold war era. Moving on up, Ariadna...
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I dunno...I'm seeing the taskmaster as the Muton Elite from Xcom:EU
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>>50274877
And the PanO is using Swiss Guard as a front line troopers! How uncivilized!
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>>50274899
Always got a Destiny feel from the Taskmaster.

Waiting for the HRL model to see how much it powerslides while aiming its sidearm.
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>>50274915
The difference is that Swiss Guards don't fight like the Swiss Guard of old. These faggots do fight with WWII era tactics.
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>>50274551
>specialist pilots
That's pretty interesting. That might actually make Scarface interesting for PanO and would be especially nice for the Anaconda and Iguana operators.
>tech-bee pseudo-warcor & templates on remote tags
Really interested in what that could mean.
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>>50274551
If they make TAG pilot specialists a thing, there might almost be a reason to field Raicho. Almost. As it stands, it's complete trash.
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>>50274945
If it ain't broke...
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>>50274476
Not hardcore enough to hold what you take, not classy or efficient enough to fight like the drop troops. How's it feel being an obsolete mutt? Youre sequestered to the inquisitor because noone in thr guard wants to put up with your posh bullshit. There's a reason regimental training is based off the tactics of the 8th, kiddo
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>Guided gives you a +6 against a targeted target on a B1 shot
>-3 per enemy hacker
>No bonus if target has ECM
>Speculative Fire gives you +3 against a targeted target on a B1 shot
>No penalties from ECM or hackers
So, Ariadna essentially has the best "smart" artillery? wtf? I love Traktor Muls now.
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>>50271855
>It's pretty much DBZ tier trivialization, except you have to become an order sargeant and gather rewards points to revive people instead of gathering dragon balls
And also wait 100-200 years in line. With CA breathing down humanity's neck you may not see this day.
In HSN3 it's been mentioned that CA has a habit of destroying Cubes (as they themselves know the technology) or sepsitorizing them, and even if a soldier's cube is recovered, there's the huge waiting line due to increased death rate in the war. And then there's Cubeless guys like Ariadna soldiers, Hassassins (who use Backups instead) or Teutons who remove their Cubes to be immune to Sepsitor.
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>>50275442
>BS 10
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>>50272042
>By the Emperor's will, we are here!
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>>50275492
Some cubeless guys make hard copies of themselves, so there is another you to continue the fight.
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>>50275493
Hit on 13 vs dodge-3. Even lower dodge on motorcycles, tags and such. It's a very good template roll. The targeted state cancels the penalties and adds +3. It's essentially the best "guided" you can get barring absolute zero hackers.
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>>50275442
They've always had the best smart artillery. The Katyusha was unhackable in N2, when all the other missiles fell out of the sky to defensive hacking in N2, it's only real use.
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>>50274765
>>50274877
The Ariadnan Katyusha is not literally a WW2 Katyusha rocket. It's a small guided ballistic rocket with some sorta explosive payload that's weaker than Infinity-era anti-armor missiles. Which is why it can fly into windows and explode and shit, as well as being compact to be deployed on a little mini-cart bot.
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>>50274752
>Also, the +3 from combi rifles comes in part from them being smartguns that auto-aim.
I thought that was recoil suppression.

>>50274786
Note that they also fight each other and they have so much super metal they can waste it on making claymores of all things.
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>>50275558
Limited range and you get the same effect with all spec fire weapons in the game minus the ammo. Fo in general is rarely worth the orders and people mainly take them for secondary benefits and cheap price.
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>>50275597
Also the ridiculous triple template. You could carpet bomb the whole opponent DZ with those.
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>>50275655
The ammo types is what makes it "worthwhile" over a granade launcher. It's just the best out of the bunch of shit options that are guided weapons. Like, you can speculative fire when guided is not optimal, unlike the other ones which just gather dust.
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>>50273942
Now that I look at it closely, that knife scabbard seems a bit suggestive...
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My Reverend Custodier lost her arm with a combi rifle. Is there any place where I could buy the bit?
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>>50272229
>tikbalang variant
>replaces HMG+HFT with an EXP-CCW, Martial Arts lvl1 and Dualwield
Wouldn't really kill the spaniards to include that, would it?
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>>50276172
It wouldn't, but I'm not sure they want to make a terrible unit.
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>>50276172
No, but it would kill the TAG.
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>>50265608
Noob Questions.

Can I be hacked in aro if I cautious move?

Is there a narrative ruleset for a yourguys style campaign?

If I play Yu Jing, can I have one combat group Japanese, the other Imperial service?

How much much functionality do Kuang Shi have? Can they clear buildings and communicate as if they were robots, or closer to just zombies shambling forward with a chain rifle?

Are Remotes AI or just giant r/c toys like current drones?

Thanks.
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>>50276652
Noice. Wonder if they'll do one more.
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>>50276653
>Is there a narrative ruleset for a yourguys style campaign?
There's a campaign ruleset in Campaign Paradiso, but that's for N2 and hasn't been updated yet.
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>>50267201

>>50267344 is pretty accurate, but if you want something more specific... Haqq has good doctors but mostly everything is one wound infantry. Weapons that deal two wounds on hit are very effective because a doctor can´t heal you if you´re fully dead. There´s probably going to be a lot of AROs against you, so bring some way to get around that.

Yu Jing have tools to be dangerous anywhere, but it requires them to sacrifice somewhere else. I´d bring at the very least something against camo, a way to get past mines, and be careful with letting weak cheerleaders alone because a Tiger Soldier can paradrop on your back and wreck shit for very few points. Good access to hackers, so be careful.

PanO has a lot of big guns and great TAGs. So bring hackers.
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>>50276653
Also noob here, but given you´ve got no answer yet:

>If I play YJ, can I have one combat group Japanese, the other Imperial Service?

Long story short, you can play either vanilla or a sectorial. ONE sectorial. Still, many sectorial troops are also available in vanilla, so you could make two combat groups, one with Japs and one with IS. You´d be lacking access to sectorial-specific units and you can´t use fireteams, though. At least you can bring in vanilla troops to help round up your weaknesses.

>Kuang Shi
Fluff wise, as far as I know, they´re pretty much lobotomized zombies. In fact, you need to bring in a Celestial Guard with a Kuang Shi controlling device in order to bring Kuang Shi.

KS are a penal group. You´re only there because you´re being executed. You just might do something useful before going down.

>Remotes
I think YJ are AI but still require a hacker somewhere to direct them. Or maybe not. Pretty sure they´re not full r/c, but neither advanced enough AI to consider it one of your guys, if that´s what you´re looking for.
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>>50272454
>can 1v1 with muhreen

Interesting point for comparison: IIRC someone at Corvus once said a Veteran Space Marine would have the exact stats of a Sogarat with a HMG.

Not hugely relevant, I just think it's cool that they gave people something concrete and rules-based like that.
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>>50276653
No, hacking AROs follow the same rules as other AROs. Remember that you cannot start or end a cautious move in the zone of control of an enemy. Not entirely sure how repeaters interact with it though, someone else will have to cover that.

Sorta. Paradiso had one, but it's a bit outdated now.

No, if you play a sectorial the whole army has to be that sectorial. You can play vanilla Yu Jing though, which allows you to use troops from both albeit without link teams and in lower numbers.

Kuang Shi still have full muscle control, but they're broken mentally and can't function properly without a handler. Alone they'd just stand around until they starved to death or someone insulted Yu Jing, at which point they'd sperg out and shoot the offending party to death for the glory of the dragon emperor.

Remotes are AI, but they're pretty stupid and limited AI.
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>>50276652
Very cool! I'm glad she turned out nicely since the SMG option is my favorite
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>Low sales push resculpts
>Acontecimiento got a resculpt way before much older starters because it doesn't sell
>Acontecimiento actually doesn't sell because it's boring and shit (What even is it? Venezuelan jungle fighters?)
>Acontecimiento is so shit we'll get a resculpt and push every year
Are you ready for ever expanding selection of Acog Regulars, Akalis, Montesa Knights and tikbalangs?
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>>50277431
Still never felt a need for them. Even for filler I'd rather just stick in a Kamael to fill a gap in a link when a member is lost.

Though hopefully Sukeul isn't delayed in some way.
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>>50276652
That pose is kind of really shit.

Not quite Mk12 wulver grenadier, but getting there.
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>>50277431
At this point, I like the Tohaa pets better than the Tohaa. They are so much more visually interesting.
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>>50277459
They're useful because it's the only unit with STR in Tohaa. Thankfully they're cheap af.
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>>50277480
I'd like to run them for more than just pulling the repair classified. Maybe when my meta sees more impersonators and such I can run them.
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Newest RPG section: Paradiso.
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Anyone found a use for Zhayedans?
I really like their sculpt, but I find their point cost hard to justify. The only profile I'd really use is the breaker rifle one. The others seem rather lacklustre.
I feel automedkit is kind of pointless and risky. Veteran level 1 seems very situational as well.
So far I've had some luck using him to hunt down a fireteam of light infantry (impact template weapon + shock ammo ignoring all cover bonuses hurts!).
Maybe they're better when their sectorial finally arrives.
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>>50277569
I feel the same way. Hopefully Ramah Taskforce has interesting fireteam options for him. Be nice to mix him in with different units in a haris or something.
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>>50277491
They are about the equivalent of line infantry, but with visors and sixth sense. I'm not sure why you'd NEED plentiful impersonators to run one or two..
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>>50277491
Ah sure. They're also nice against Holo2 troopers. Also SSL2 is pretty useful. I think they're nice little deploymeng zone guards.

>>50277569
Veteran L1 is situational especially in an army that can hide their LT pretty well and with Farzan CoC. But not being isolated is a nice bonus. And yeah, automedikit is pretty wasted on a low PH model. But you've already said why they can be so good. Ignoring Cover mods, Shock Template, and Shock+Breaker. In suppression they can be real nasty too. I like them just for being able to ignore cover mods

I'm sure they'll be more useful in Ramah Taskforce.
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>>50277419
>oh boy, with all these ISS and HB revamps in HSN3 surely I'll get something for my ASA
>minor tweaks make some options marginally better
>regular FO is still utter shit for literally no reason
>no new unit despite the other sectorials getting new shit they didn't need
>actually lost a unit
>we get orcs though, now we can really pretend to be NCA
>oh and greeks too. you know, that thing nobody ever asked for or wanted in the jungle guerilla army?
At least being underresourced, ignored and permanently angry at high command fits the fluff.

Man, complaining feels good. No wonder the chinks do it so much.
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>>50277708
Still don't get the 0.5 SWC cost on the FO Regular.

Has CB ever said anything or someone figure out why?
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>>50277708
>0.5 SWC forward observer
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>>50277708
As a SP player it really annoys me that SAA got 3 of our characters for no fucking reason. It's not even in the fluff that they work or train with them.

Nagas: sure it's even in the fluff and NCA and ISS gets Aleph liasons to help out as well. But Teucer, Drakios, and Scylla just seem like a cop out in lieu of actually having to work on new units/models.
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>>50277569
The Red Veil Marksmanship Breaker Rifle is the only one I consider fielding. Never as a Lt option of course. Veteran is an OK thing to have when you need it, especially when compounded with the Al Fasid. I tend to like it because I tend to run the obvious Saladin Lt (even with the decoy Hafza he can be singled out). His niche as I put him is on suppression fire in a neat building top with some cover to protect a firelane with an objective or something, as it takes a similar role to the viral rifle Lasiq for a similar price or, like you said, to go hunting for squishies. Automedikit takes the pressure off of doctors to not get into the dangerous zone he might be in, but yeah, in a faction with the most doctors it can go to waste. I personally like him a lot and he doesn't disappoint me and usually makes his points back.
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>>50277769
>>50277777
Because PanO. Bipandra still costs .5swc too for no reason too.
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>>50277826
>>50277642
I hadn't really thought about putting him in suppression. I'll try that the next time I'll field him.

I do hope they get some cool fireteam options.
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>>50277864
You have PanO alternative doctors and specialists to Bipandra. The regular observer is their only observer unless they naga. I guess it represents how they must suck ALEPH's dick if they want shit to get done.
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>>50277925
Wow. Dont play saa, so I had no idea their FO situation was that retarded.
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>>50272819
This is Dark Neebab Numerology, please report to your local police station for your of duty as an Assault Pioneer. Don't try lying we can smell your guilt.

>Inb4 Remove Neebab
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>>50278071
Remove Trinomial, glory to the EI. Sygmaa are superior.
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>>50277925
To be fair, besides the regular and the NAGA, they do have that humble FO remote that's otherwise a great toolbox with Sensor, Satlock, repeater, etc.
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>>50278190
Remotes have always felt like that filler unit for when you're so totally and completely buttfucked by your sectorial that you have no choice.
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>>50278274
The generic support drone everyone gets, that is.
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>>50278274
Hmm I always feel naked without at least a couple remotes, can't beat the comfyness of the sweet TR murderbot. Also can confirm that the messenger REMs are perfect to fill those last 8-10 points when every other model in your faction costs way more.
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>>50278274
>Bakunin
>Run as many of the 8 point REMs because fuck it
>Scare PanO players with all those repeaters and hackers
>Last round get swept under by a USAriadna player

Good times.
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>>50278274
They're good at that, but don't disregard them in vanilla or good sectorials. Remotes are top tier.
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>>50276755
So your average Sternguard are as strong as the tankies space monkeys, that was.... kinda underwhelming.

I'll take that the average Tacs will be as strong as Janisaries then.
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HMG Sentry Remotes are universally useful. Only Bakunin and Sin Eaters have any alternative, after all.

The basic 16/17 point scout drones are solid specialists everyone can use.

The 8 point flash pulse bots are shockingly good: they ARO much better than anything even double their price, for purposes of wasting your enemy orders and shutting down rambos.
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>>50277419
>Aconteminento
>Shit
>Not liking their far-more-usefull-MI-than-certain-aussie and mechanized knights
>Not liking a parkour TAGs that can dick your enemy in every turn by throwing mines

Holy shit, why PanO rookies are so awfully shit at this game.
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>>50278537
Hell, friend of mine started PanO and quickly moved into Acontecimento because better WP and Bagh-Maris.

Of course he still gripes about 0.5 SWC FOs.
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>>50278596
I never feel a gripe about a mere 0.5 swc shit for 3 point cheaper FOs.

And thankfully that because i play limited insertion from time to time.
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>>50278639
There's no such thing as a 'mere' amount of SWC. It's okay if the particular list you're using has SWC left over, but that's the only situation where even a single Regular FO is worth the investment.
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>>50277419
Acontecimiento are the only PanO I would ever play.
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>>50278639
>Tfw you get total AVA 11 point FOs for no SWC. With better stats, even
Yes, enjoy your "neglible cost" FOs.
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>>50277777
DIGITS
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>>50277708
>At least being underresourced, ignored and permanently angry at high command fits the fluff.
Yup.

>>50278729
>Acontecimiento are the only PanO I would ever play.
After a while you get used to the pain.
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>>50269759
Tap the magazine to ensure it is firmly seated.
Rack the action to chamber a round or clear the stoppage
Bang, rounds down range.
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So apparently Seminar leaks:

Techbees will get a profile. 'Similar to Warcor'. So probably a really bare bones engineer with just a pistol.
Vedic is not going to get a Dakini resculpt soon. Or much vedic stuff.
Blackjacks are not planned for 2017. They're gonna be a while.
They're producing sculpts faster than the artists are completing new concepts, to the point where the old staff are returning to do art and design duties.
O-12 needs a redesign completely from their internal.
Tohaa are getting even more zany shit next book.
2nd wave of Spec Ops models confirmed, Nexus Operatives will be released then.
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Can I order Montesa knight from new Acontecimiento sectorial without whole box (want ot try E.Y.E.-like colour scheme)?
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>>50278537
Bah-Maris are some of the best linkable MI around. Multiterrain, Mimetism, MSV1, BS12, light shotguns and useful skills. Their sole weakness really is being kinda SWC hungry, which is true for ASA in general.
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>>50279701
There is a Blister for a Knight of Montesa, but it's not the new Sectorial one obviously.
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>>50279684
They also said no new JSA starter because apparently it's still selling well
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>>50279817
I wonder if you're a troll. Of course it's selling well, everyone likes space samurai and you need the starter to play them.
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>>50279684
>2nd wave of Spec Ops models confirmed, Nexus Operatives will be released then
Hmm. On the one hand, more SpecOps no one ever uses as anything but a proxy. On the other hand, Nexus are much needed. Nearly all CA lists I make have at least one of them.

>Vedic is not going to get much vedic stuff.
That seems odd.
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>>50279701
There's a guy in UK parceling out boxes, it's ChoKonnit or ShaeKonnit depending on the forum. I can recommend him.
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>>50276652
>Bashi
I like the face, but the PH 6 pose doesn't do it for me. If I want a new one I'll be giving an SMG to the new BS one.
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>>50277769
>>50277864

Yeah, it's 0.5 SWC...but it is also a BS 12 WIP 3 specialist for 11 points. The cost has to come out of somewhere.
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>>50280445
I'll definitely give Rep for Cho. Did a lot of deals with him in the past. Excellent service and competitive prices. Just don't be surprised if some models/profiles are in high demand.
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>>50280777
Cho is a G.
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>>50275065
>As it stands, it's complete trash.

Why?
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>>50281101
Look at the cost and what you get for that.
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>>50280679

>WIP 3

PanOceania everyone!
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>>50280679
ARM0 is the cost for WIP13. It's a basic troop with ARM0, which only the Ariadnan militia and moderators share.
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>>50279522
I play non-greek Aleph and am with the other guy of acontecimento basically being the PanO I'd choose to collect (although my Saber!Joan is making me want to give her a retinue)

Apparantly I like the pain...
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how well do you think a hsien helmet would fit on a taskmaster?Im seriously considering purchasing the red veil box to make various conversions, including a better taskmaster head, and the haqq big boy into another gecko
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>>50283560
Either sounds pretty awful to me, but on a pure mechanical level it might fit well enough.
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>>50283725
i think the hsien head would fit well in terms of design. It's shape and chin aren't terribly different from brigada, and will require little modification.

The fasid, on the other hand... That would be huge jumps. I'd have to actually side by side compare them. It might be too far off. That said, I sculpt green stuff at a high skill level, so nothings impossible for me, just a matter of how much time and effort its worth.
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Can anybody tell me how I'm supposed to paint the goddamn Kaplans?
No matter what I do, they look mediocre at best.. Black and White are horrible colours to paint.
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>>50284409
How are you painting the black?
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>>50284441
Mixed with a bit of grey, darkest shade first and afterwards some lighter shades on bright areas.
With white I start with grey and then glaze on some greyish white applying more layers to brighter areas.
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>>50284678
Thing is, you practically notice none of it. And from across the table it just looks like a black and white blob.
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>>50281837
volunteers, metros and line kazakhs all have arm1
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>>50284709
>Using studio schemes.
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>>50284821
Seconded.
I paint my Azra'ils in bare metals, and my Ariadna and Haqq's in bright SWAT blues.

Not my best work, but from a distance he looks fine.
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>>50284709
So make the best of looking like a blob and paint them in camo pattern.
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>>50277556
>Shasvastii infiltrators have already reached Dawn
RIP in pieces Human Sphere
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>>50281101
It's one of the most boring and unappealing TAGs around, rivalled only by the Guijia. But the thing about the Guijia is that it still has a unique role within the army. YJ has no AP HMGs and their only other MULTI HMG is slow as fuck, so the TAG at least has a niche to call its own. CA has Sogarats, which are cheaper, decently fast, can engage armour and are extremely tough. Not to mention the new HRMC Overdron and several different types of EI aspect that can fill that role while also filling others. CA has plenty of interesting big things to spend lots of points on, so an uninteresting and slightly overpriced big thing just doesn't cut it.
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>>50280444
>not using Spec Ops
Where do you play, Poland?
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>>50285328
Maybe that anon isn't a pussy.
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>>50285057

That guy looks like he is part of Cobra
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>>50285384
>Spec Ops are for pussies
>strong independent ALEPH players don't need nobody playing cheap specialists
Wew lad
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>>50285411
While not what I was going for, I'm genuinely flattered.
Brb, getting Col Voronin and modding him to look like Cobra Commander.
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>>50285434
>Needing a crutch in your little metal man table top game.
>Whining.
Lad wew
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>>50285292
Is Kornak+2 Sogarat link good?
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>>50285458
>crutches in a game with 10 pts specialists
>he thinks a single 1 wound model is a crutch
wew wew wew
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>>50285434
>needing a crutch
>not solving problems with the tools you are given
>being a pussy
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>>50285527
>>50285516
>implications
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>>50285434
are you implying that aleph needs cheap specialists? because the proxy mk 1 wants to have a word.
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>>50278537
I'm waiting for Varuna or MO to get a redone started before moving to Pano.
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>>50285596
I'm implying that it's ALEPH players who oppose to Spec Ops the strongest because they got their top tier specialists, can't have anyone coming close
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>>50285622
oh right, yeah I can see that, our specialists are pretty nice, I mostly don't use spec ops because A) I don't have their models and B) I kinda like the idea of armies having a weakness and therefore a flavour so I don't feel the need to patch that hole using a spec ops unit, that said unless the opponent has a reputation for being a prat I don't think I'd refuse to play because of Spec Ops.
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>>50285527

Hey, it's muh crutch anon. Mm, good salt.
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>>50285508
Yes. Highly expensive, but good.

>>50285516
>it's just one hyperdynamic WIP15 doctor-engineer guiz!
Just because it's not hard to shoot dead doesn't mean it's not a crutch. You're sidestepping problems of your army, which is fine when that army is completely dysfunctional like Shas but otherwise it's just putting a bandaid over a bunch of designed weaknesses.

>>50285622
CA and Yu Jing. Aleph is a dumb gay robot.
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>>50285649
I simply find the idea of arbitrarily forbidding a part of the game completely fucking retarded. If a single-wound model with some customization is such a huge game-breaking problem, it indicates something about that player. Infinity is a deeply layered game where every tactic has a counter tactic to it, and just removing some part of it because of strange personal preferences leads to the nightmare scenario of some store in Poland, where the only sectorials allowed are for Nomads and ALEPH, because that's what the store owner and his GF are playing. Multispectral visors are banned too, because hey, they interfere with them Steel Phalax and Bakunin playstyles and we just can't have that.
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>>50285516
You're wrong and you're a faggot.

Wew that
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>>50285721
>it's just one hyperdynamic WIP15 doctor-engineer guiz!
Take away Hyperdinamic, slap on NWI and that's the Sophotect without the 6-4 movement. The fuck is a Spec Ops compared to that?
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>>50285724
They were literally made as a bandaid because of spergs crying.
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>>50285763
21 points cheaper
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>>50285778
Campaign Paradiso was made to shut spergs up? U wot m8
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Who here is happy about the Tunguska rumors
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>>50285724
>muh slippery slope
It's not game breaking, it's just a crutch that you can use to ignore some of your faction's weaknesses. It discourages more creative solutions by allowing you to slap a big bandaid on any list.
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>>50285889
>2020 YEAR OF TUNGUSKA
At this point I don't get hype for anything CB related because it just leads to disappointment.
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>>50285907
we'll get it next year mate or 2018
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>>50285929
>inb4 pushed back because of reasons.
>Acheron Falls 2016

>>50285817
This is the type of retard I expect needs to use spec ops.
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>>50285890
I guess Armand Le Muet, Krakot Renegades and Scarface are also crutches that erase faction identity, right?
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>>50281837
It's still cheaper than other FO line troops of the same quality (Zhanshi, Fusilier, alguaciles), while still packing a combi. Moderators are clearly a tier below at BS 10 WIP 12. If anything the price is optimized for those stats since 1 point of arm on single wound light infantry is kind of negligible.
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>>50285890
Yeah, just like Crusader Brethren erased the distinctiveness of MO by adding AD.

>>50285889
The big figure rumours surprised me, but they're not entirely unwelcome. I suppose Nomads are the underreported TAG faction, in a way.

>>50285778
More like the inherently crappy nature of ITS, particularly at the time. Specialists were transparently a way of making paramedics and the average FO figure relevant again, and more than a few factions, at least at the time, had pretty rubbish specialist options, particularly if you didn't want to choose from the same set. Specialists patched that problem and allowed a more naturalistic list construction process. Plus it's fun to be able to customise things a bit, and obviously they tied into campaign play excellently.

>>50285763
>Just slap on NWI
>>50285806
Still one figure, though.
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>>50286026
Apart from the Zhanshi, those other troops get deployable repeaters. That's what the extra point is for. And in no way is 1 point worth 0.5 SWC. I'd gladly pay an extra single point for my FOs if it meant they didn't cost SWC, because then they'd actually be usable.

>>50286074
21 points is pretty big. Some factions can get an infiltrator for that.

And you're pretty much spot on about the reasons for spec ops. They were a bandaid and that made sense, because ITS in N2 was a shitshow and half the factions needed several bandaids. Things are a lot better now, nobody really needs that turbohackdoc anymore.

And as a side note, Muyibs being a spec ops option is idiotic. CB seems to be under the bizarre impression that they're actually line troops.
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>>50286074
>More like the inherently crappy nature of ITS...
So not only are they a bandaid, they're an outdated one.

Thanks for proving the point.
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>>50286237
>they're an outdated one.
They are 4 years old, after all.
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>>50286237
ITS isn't much better these days, though. The basic handling of specialists is still bad, they haven't meaningfully changed that.

>>50286219
>21 points
Yeah, but you can make similar assertions depending on the load out. 'just' slapping on NWI is a bit of a contradiction as well.
>things are a lot better now
Except...
>Muyibs
Better than Daylamis. I get the rational, the basic troop for each faction, but clearly Muyib was the wrong call. Of course, Bakunin don't get any advantages for having to use the Moderator, and that's objectively worse than the Alguicile.
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Does the regular order spent for a coordinated order have to be from the same combat group of the guys who are doing the irregular order?
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>>50286074
>The big figure rumours surprised me, but they're not entirely unwelcome
>I suppose Nomads are the underreported TAG faction

More like a faction with much oversized old tech with much of weird stuff been sticken in.
I think its fits them quite nicely, most of the human S5 units was salvaged old techs (like Az'rail and Blackjack). In a faction that relies on bunch of black marketed salvages, its quite logical that those brutes are installed in each ships since they can't afford a more compact things that the other 'superpowers' usually fields.
And the recent ALEPH raid means they're in grave needs on superior firepower, just in case.
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>>50286644

The other thing that I recall being mentioned about the Nomads is that they really do thrive on smaller scale combat and general special forces style operations. That being the case, they can afford to use a lot of prototypes and custom made stuff. PanO and YJ have empires to outfit. The Nomads just need a few platoons, placed in just the right time, at just the right place.
>recent
The violent intermission? That was over a generation ago, wasn't it?
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>>50286332
>>50286452
>ITS is complete shit.
I'm glad it's the official tournament system.
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>>50286452
Alguaciles get +1 BS and +1 WIP, Muyibs get +1 BS, +1 PH, +1 ARM, +1 panzerfaust and +1 dogged, not to mention the D charges and number 2. There's a pretty significant difference, it's less comparable to Moderators/Alguaciles and more to Moderators/Wildcats.
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So i'm color blind, how can i paint this?
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>>50287354
By doing your best. Or when people give awkward compliments about how expressive it is you know you didn't do too well
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>>50284821
whats wrong with studio schemes?
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>>50287354
What kind of colourblind? When you use the colours that you fuck up, have someone around to tell you how it looks.
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>>50287258
Ah, for the before times, when every tournament was a surprise.

>>50287354
Greyscales? Or you could just fine a scheme that steers clear of whatever particular subtype of colour blindness you have.

Remember a lot of painting is in the lighting and shading, so even a relatively basic colour palette gives you plenty of wiggle room, even if a few of the visual tricks are less obvious in your case.
>>50287332
Of course. The Muyibs are a particularly bad case of it, but it's not like all specops were created equal to start with. This is just a particularly egregious case of absent fucks.
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>>50286712
>The violent intermission? That was over a generation ago, wasn't it?

I thought it was just couple months ago....
Jeeze i'll need to check the lore again....
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I'm never fucking using Rustoleum primer again. That aside, how bad does it look?
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>>50287835
Kusanagi apparently launched herself to prominence during it, and she was mentioned as having extensive rejuvenation treatments over the years. But I never had the impression of it being recent. It was sort of a clear escalation of the Ghost Conflict, that sort of acted as the prequel to the present geopolitical state of the game. Aleph firmly established itself as a malignant enemy, which set the Nomads on the course that they ended up today, with half of the book's fluff pieces edited out as Nomad black propaganda.
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>>50287862
Phin your taints
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>>50287862
And a shitty Al Fassid
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>>50287875
Like I said, blame the primer. Rustoleum x2 is a traitor.
I'll probably buy another Spetsnaz down the line to prime and paint properly.
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Anyone else having trouble accessing lists saved on the ITS tab in the army builder? It keeps telling me there was an error trying to retrieve the lists.
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Oi, you mob. Fresh bread.
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