Infiinity General: Maintenance Battalion Edition

Reminder to always paint burn marks on the retards doing maintenance work without an apron or anything else protecting them from sparks and flying debris.

>>50240037
>implying she's not remotely controlling a fixer-robot in another room with that power glove
Where do you think we are, Dawn?

>>50240037
>not using a Ironsilk™ bodysheat to show off your perfectly sculpted Lucien® somatotype body while also being perfectly protected while you do your part to keep PanOceania at the top
I guess that's what you get for being a plebian.

The biggest problem about that Techbee preview is the fact that there is no Raicho pilot render.

What's the point of inspiring leadership in panoceania? Basically everything is regular.

>>50240336
3pts Order from a Warcor and the pseudo-link with coordinated order.
Much like with MSV, PanO gets a lot of expensive shit they can't use to the fullest. But they get it at a slight discount.

>>50240336
- Warcor order generator
- V:Courage on everything
- ignoring Retreat!
- Coordinated Orders without spending command tokens

>>50239915
Question:If I join ALEPH, can I download my mind into a qt waifu body?

>>50241169
Only if you're a very obedient and capable slave.

>>50241233
>remove nomad.hta

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To be somewhat topical.

The ad is based on the Lightboard from MAS.

BTW, I have a Patreon now

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Witness me, Infinity General!

>>50241319
I'm hoping that we'll get a tech bee like that.

>>50240336
3 Free Coordinated Orders in the game is massive. Particularly for moving up with double-moves, in which case it equals 12 orders worth of actions, for free.

Otherwise, getting Bounty Hunters and WarCors regular is nice.

>>50239915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj1MCjeFxrM
The words that inspire every new generation of PanO Warriors.

>>50241319
Oh god that bullshit on the forum they knew what the game was like art direction when they first joined. Why the fuck do SJWs have to push their agenda in every hobby they get into?

>>50241319
Well done lad.

Which factions are good for beginners to best grasp the mechanics of the game. And should I start sectorial or vanilla?

>>50242417
Because they're insecure and got far too much cortisol in their system.. That is all there is. Crippling insecurity and inability to simply ignore everything that doesn't quite fall in with their standards along with an overwhelming desire to virtue signal in order to feed their egos. It's a volatile combination and turns people into complete tools.

News from Bostria in the Pangalactic tournament of this weekend in Madrid:

>Seed-Soldiers WON'T BE THE LINE TROOP OF SEF ANYMORE.
>There will be a new line troop.
>Seed-Soldiers won't disappear, but be transformed in something new
>Design: there was a time that Umbras were to be the design of the new Shasvastii. Obviously, that idea was discharged.

>>50241398
Well done m8, which army you won it with?

>>50242462
It's this bullshti that has crept in all facets of soceity that is why trump won, why brexit happened and why the right in gaining power in Australia and Europe turns out white men don't like being told they are scum of the earth for white male and straight.

>>50242454
PanOceania or Morats. PanO's whole shtick is that they're better at shooting/tech level but have few tricks and subtlety. Morats, a CA sectorial, are as simple as a brick to the face and hurt just as much. And later on you can expand into generic CA which has a ton of tricksy stuff.

>>50242462
What's the point of virtue signaling anyway? I mean, the ideologues won't care about what you do or say but what the party line says, if the party changes you'll be cast aside like trash. And decent people will look more at what you do anyway.

>>50241319
I'd buy one.

>>50242417
Because they haven't learned that there's such a thing as unwanted help.

>>50242578
>>50242578
By signaling their mighty virtues they hope to gain Internet (or real life) credit. They just want approval from other people.

>>50241319
They are the unsung heroes of the PanO military. They don't do it for the adulation; It's enough just knowing that every TAG and Remote functions without a hitch.

>>50242417
I really hope CB doesn't cave in to the loud minority.

Also it's like they willfully ignore that it's a hobby and they can paint or alter their toys however they want...or simply not buy it.

>>50242477
The fabulous Tohaa Trident, my friend.

When I look at the various sectorials for the different factions, I can often see what they do differently from each other and what they can do over vanilla pretty easily. But, I've been having trouble with the following:

>Military Orders
All the units that get upped availability are units you don't want to put even more of in a list because they are expensive as fuck and many of these units are just weaker versions of better shit in vanilla and the other panoceania sectorials. Is this the "I hate myself" sectorial?

>All of ariadna
The sectorials each do the exact same thing vanilla does and the exact same thing the other sectorials do (cheap garbo spam in specialist and cammo flavors) with the only real difference being in aesthetics. What is going on with this shit?

>>50243350
>I really hope CB doesn't cave in to the loud minority.
Well, they start making really hot models since 2th edition and didn't stop it still, the best what we can do is support CB.
May be we should hint these that they are welcome in Warhammer, I hear GW refusing make attractive models.

>>50243525
Well done fellow Tohaa player

>>50244268
>May be we should hint these people

>>50244268
Are they really flat out refusing? Even if they sculpted nicer faces, that heroic scale is just plain goofy lookin'; there's a massive error in translation when you compare their model to their own artwork.

>>50244661
>Are they really flat out refusing?
IMO, but 8th ed. witches were pretty hot, but new Allariele looks like big man with tits and in Silver Tower they replaced female witch by male half-naked assasin (or EBIL bladedancer, I am not sure).

>>50244100
MO gets the Magister link.

CHA gets Wallace lieutenant and some good links like the Grey HMG+Volunteers.

FRRM gets some decent links and arguably the most useful infiltrator.

USAriadna gets Grunt spam and Marauder links.

Mostly sectorials are good for link teams.

>CA sectorial centering around assimilated humans and/or Tohaa
Yea or nay?

>>50244855
Certainly would enjoy more Trihedron units

>>50244855
Well fluff already mentioned the one Tohaa planet which was occupied by CA, but then Tohaa retake it, but found that local population was okay and even more, they now calling main Tohaa forces a traitors

>>50244967
sepsitors are a hell of a drug

>>50244855
I'd be down for that. I always thought a pure Trihedron sectorial would be a bit much since Tohaa already have their own faction, but a Trihedron+human collaborator one seems cool.

>>50244759
Oh sure and the Juan Diaz daemonettes are still quite nice. But they all still have those goofy proportions. I've only seen the bug lady because a friend wants to commission me to paint her....I was not impressed.

They really ought to take notes from Infinity, Kingdom Death, Ragin Heroes.

>>50244855
Nah. But maybe more of them in Onyx though. Maybe Ko Dali will make it into Onyx in Paradiso N3 or whatever the next book is

>>50245088
Sepsitors are expensive. The real key to running your evil empire is to only be evil to those who oppose you. Quietly kidnap and reeducate dissidents, but keep everything else running as normal. You barely even need propaganda at that point (but you should continue making it anyway) as the people realise that the crap their former government was spouting about you being horrible and oppressive was mostly bullshit, and that all their suffering and fear was for for nothing.

The problems only start when you kill off large numbers of people and make things obviously worse. So don't do that.

>>50245170
and by the EI bent fluff all they want their subjugated entites to do is pay some taxes, provide military support to the army and continue developing their AI's in support of the EI.

This is what I love about Infinity, even the "aliens bent on the distruction of all humanity" aren't actually all bad, our benevolent AI isn't entirely nice, the various powers in the human sphere that have some really nice policies but are all hiding attrocities away from the public eye.

everything is shades of grey.

it's also one reason I'm mildly disapointed in the RPG, because they've decided, I assume to assist GMs, to pin some stuff down as objective rather than leaving all the sources of fluff as entirely subjective and biased. Although I suppose you could just interpret every bit of fluff in a factions chapter/book as being propaganda.

>>50244855

It's astonishing that hasn't happened yet. A CA list featuring lots of recycled human units with EI overseers would do wonders in increasing sales related to CA units. One could even start such a list with a 2playet starter and random EI blisters.

Talking about two player starters, I do wonder what's keeping them from trying to release one featuring a single faction. Dunno, Caledonia vs USARF or Bakunin vs Corregidor. Stuff like that. Would be much more attractive to buy for yourself, while still functioning as a two player starter.

>>50242417
its a few stupid community members, not some cultural boogeyman. Dont overreact.

>>50245521
probably that sectorials aren't particularly newb friendly, having two distinctly different looking forces helps new players identify the diferent forces even when unpainted, having two different factions means that when played outside of the written missions tutorial with the full rules they have more notable diferences in advantage at the ~180 point level and finally because 2 seperate factions each with their own unique for the box model means they hit two faction audiences at once, and some fraction of those people will end up starting collecting a second (or N+1th) force instead of splitting it with another person meaning they can increase the number of potential model sales from each specific player.

Also it's worth noting that each box so far has heralded the re-sculpting of a main faction starter box and sectorial starter re-sculpts seem to be on their own schedule in between the starter box releases.

>>50245591
The local store hasn't sold a single red veil since release and the icestorm gathering dust was bought by the local warcor to run demo games. A lot of people don't want a chunk of an army they don't want to use.

USAriadna boxes have sold well, on the other hand.

>>50244855
Between Fraacta, Maakrep and what is often assumed about the Nexus we already sorta have that in Onyx. It's obviously not the main focus, but still...
Not that I would be opposed to more Sygmaa units, because the two we already have are aces. Give me the missing HMG Maakrep, then work from there.

>>50244100
>All the units that get upped availability are units you don't want to put even more of in a list because they are expensive as fuck
This is where you're incorrect. Knights are cheap as chips by HI standards, Hospitallers are cheaper than ORCs. They are only "expensive as fuck" if you subscribe to the kurwaspam mentality of "everything more expensive than 30pts is literally unplayable". Not to mention that with BS14 base on everything that isn't Magisters, 2 Wounds, Stealth by Marital Arts and Arm 3-4 they are a pain to get rid of.
I had a friend who used to be very kurwaspam until he got steamrolled by a full Hospitaller link with Joan in it. He still plays spammy lists (he plays Haqq after all) but he treats it more like a gimmick now and has seen value of expensive units.

>The sectorials each do the exact same thing vanilla does and the exact same thing the other sectorials do
There's slight differences: FRRM is all about camo spam, Caledonia is more CC focused and has a lot of smoke and funky links (and Wallace) while USARF is just plain tough as nails, with less emphasis on tricks (like, even their 10pts line troop has ARM3).

>>50243525
>fabulous Tohaa
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>>50246089
Nexus are their own minor species.

>>50246407
Is that confirmed? People have been speculating about how they might be sepsitorized humans for a while.

>>50244100
Order Sarges are handy in MO but premium costed to oblivion in vanilla, they also give Konstantinos an interesting second use.

Do kind of agree on vanilla Ariadna though. Probably more of the characters like Uxia/Bruant/Van Sant should be made sectorial only. They've already got the right idea with Scot Wallace lists which play clearly differently, just extend it a bit.

>>50246554
>sepsitorized humans
that's...actually a nice idea. Better than just another generic evil-looking alien race.

>>50246554
Fluff says so. The EI takes capable young males from some low-tech shithole and then hands them to the Umbra, who put them through unnecessarily cruel training that kills most and turns the survivors into tough motherfuckers.

>>50246614
We don't know what they're going to look like. I have hope that they might not look generically evil like their Umbra masters. Ah, who am I kidding. They're going to be generic as fuck.

>>50243525

If I might ask good sir, could you share list and insight with this lowly new player?

>>50245396

Could you give an example as to what they pinned down as objectives?

>>50246614
some would argue that we've already got 6 human factions do we really need alien humans added to that

>>50246664
objective as in the oposite of subjective, ie this thing is an unbiased fact, it is not simply someones opinion.

if you read the fluff in the rulebooks 90+% of it has after the text a source from where the text came from, and most of it is either overly positive towards a certain faction/entity or overly negative, you get a lot of ALEPH is good, ALEPH is great, they love us and only want our success from panO and Yu Jing sources, and you only get ALEPH is evil and is controling us all through Maya and wants us to all stay on the ends of its strings stuff from the Nomad sources.
The RPG sourcebooks don't have any of that.

>>50245396
>aliens bent on the distruction of all humanity

I think EI just want to subjugate the entire human to their will, not demolish them. Thats why sepsitor is a thing in Infinity, they tought that humanity was worthy enought to be keeped around so they'll need some "agents" to bent all of them to their will bit by bit.

Or its other way around?

>>50246666
I agree with this poster.

How about instead of adding new factions with a handful of models these fucking portoricanmexicanbeaner fucks try making models (and rules, sup MRRF) for the shit that still doesn't have it?

They're literally going the 40k route of constantly adding "sweet kewl" new stuff instead of finishing up the stuff they already started.

Literal faction ADHD going on over at CB.


And the worst fucking part?
You niggers want another faction that's literally "Guys in space, BUT THESE GUYS WERE MADE BAD" I mean holy fuck at least ask for something interesting.

>>50246690
>90+% of it has after the text a source from where the text came from,
Interestingly, the bit of N3 talking about how the Sygmaa Trihedron is fully justified in its crusade against the filthy lying Trinomial has no source attributed to it.

>>50246698
from the sources from inside the human sphere they're painted as an alien threat that wants to kill us all, the toha also tell the humans this.

both of these are unreliable sources, the humans are scared of an external threat that has only shown agression so far, the Tohaa have been at war with the EI for generations and so are telling us what they think of the EI and also wanting to manipulate us into supporting their war effort.

The sources from inside the EI (the CA chapter of the rulebooks) paint an image of life under the EIs rule being more or less the same as life before the EI just now with even better tech. all you have to do is accept EI into your life (and your head) and pay some minor taxes and it lets you govern your own planets and you can feel safe protected by the combined army (which you must support with troops and/or supplies). Oh and keep building that AI so we can get as many different minds working on this ascension problem.

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>>50245396
>it's also one reason I'm mildly disapointed in the RPG, because they've decided, I assume to assist GMs, to pin some stuff down as objective rather than leaving all the sources of fluff as entirely subjective and biased. Although I suppose you could just interpret every bit of fluff in a factions chapter/book as being propaganda.
It works a lot better this way when it's supposed to be a world for an RPG game rather than some background for pushing miniatures around. The way fluff is presented in official books is annoying at times, you end up not knowing much more than you did before. You get that there is a Helot rebellion movement called Libertos, but what exactly Helots *are* is not explained anywhere outside the Varuna excerpt from the RPG, and even there it only has a broad physical description, although their ecology is thoroughly explained (but not what do PanOs actually use them for). OR Hassassin society being only described as spooky, mysterious and fanatical, which is no help at all when someone wants to play a Hassassin.
Or just little funny stuff like pic related. Not mentioned anywhere in HSN3.

>>50246716
this is why I didn't say 100% because I hadn't read the books in the last few days and I was sure there'd be some edge case bullshit. we can assume that the source of that is someone from inside the Trihedron rather than outside it.

However given some of the more classified stuff which is written in Paradiso about what the Tohaa were up to, I would not be surprised if the Trinomial were bending the truth (you alegedly can't lie in the Tohaas native tongue, but the Sidhe have always been known for being unable to tell lies yet still mislead)

On the other hand the other unsourced bit in paradiso that I remember is where it talks about the ancient alien recording device things and the war between those who protect them and those who want to crack them open and drink their knowledge and that one of the reasons the Tohaa have been adjusting the truth for humanity has been that we were an almost perfect example of the kinds of races that become seekers (those who want to crack open the knowledgepods and drink their insides) like the EI and they hope that by pitting us against the EI they might have sort of manufactured another defender.

>>50246739
Hassassins are just government funded extremists. Just think of terrorist fucks who kill you for not being their Islam.

They are missing impersonators that explode upon being discovered, tho.

>>50246764
It's a little more nuanced than that.

>>50246751
The real question is who puts that shit on Maya. Does the EI employ professional shills?

>>50246739
on the other hand a book full of rumours and mildly unclear things gives GMs a lot of room to make their own content between the lines, you could in fact run any sort of campaign as your own interpretation of the setting using the various sources as varying levels of gospel.

The downside to that approach is that you require the GM to interpret everything for the players and the players may come to different conclusions without GM intervention creating some confusion.

There are positive reasons to go both ways, I just personally prefered things being less clear cut and more ambiguous so you could paint anyone as the bad guy.

the problems settingwise of nailing things down is that you do have to say who is right and who is wrong, for example, aleph is good and Nomads are just deluded non-conformists who are scared of an imagined big brother.
We don't have the Nomad book yet so I can't say what the RPG says about them, but the Aleph chapter says pretty clearly that Aleph just wants to help us survive and expand and lots of other lovely stuff.

>>50246666
>>50246708
You speak as it would be an entire faction of sepsitorized humans when in reality it's just a single unit with a couple of models total at best.

Also it's nothing but appropriate that Onyx get access to those, seeing as sepsitorized humans would be very useful in covert operations against their former brothers of the Human Sphere.

>>50246801
Onyx is already a garbage tier edge lord faction.

>>50246788
well I assumed that the CA sections of the rulebook weren't on maya.
However, the EI almost certainly employs professional Shills, we just haven't seen them because the EI has decided at least initially we'd respond better to the stick rather than the carrot.
That said, if that kind of info did appear on Arachne and Maya it'd probably have been planted by the EIs numorous infiltrators and spies that it's managed to sneak in to the sphere according to the campaign paradiso book.

>>50246812
>Not wanting to eat people with your giant normal sized spooky shadow vampire alien

>>50246789
We'll know for sure if they're actually nailing things down or just giving you a biased view when the Tohaa and EI bits come out.

There's also meant to be an introduction to the gazetteer section, which may include a big 'this information is biased' label.

>>50246801
I (the first post you linked to) never actually said it was a bad idea, I was just playing devils advocate.

That said I think it's more interesting to keep the sepistorised humans thing to a minimum at least until we start getting to Acheron Falls or campaign: Earth, for now a couple of special characters show off that it's a thing without making it look like they've got entire forces of them. I also don't think there's a whole lot of CA players who would want more humans considering they probably went CA at least partially because they weren't human.

>>50246831
I hope so, I think the best way to do it would to just tweak it slightly so that it's easier to make the argument that it's not entirely true so you can chose which bits to believe and which are fabrications of your enemy.

Personally my campaign is probably going to be an Aleph trouble shooting squad anyway, so far I just haven't decided if they'll be legit and working for the O12 bureaus or not.

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>>50246789
>We don't have the Nomad book yet so I can't say what the RPG says about them, but the Aleph chapter says pretty clearly that Aleph just wants to help us survive and expand and lots of other lovely stuff.
We already know that ALEPH outright attacked Bakunin and denies it, so while it may be "benevolent", it does not like people living off the grid and manipulates information. It is not a brainwasher, it is a social media turned up to 11 kind of thing, where people give themselves to it willingly because of all the cool stuff it offers. It does not intimidate people into obedience, it sells them it.

>>50246764
They're actually just a glorified intelligence agency with a hard-on for public assassination. They only kill the people who make too much of a fuss about the shady things Haqq does, rather than everyone different to them.

>>50246812
Hey, Batroids and Sygmaa are alright. It's just the Umbra that go full coldsteel

>>50246890
Government funded MODERATE extremists. Kek.

>>50246880
and that's more or less what the aleph chapter says, it does say that Aleph is concerned about the existance of a blackspot in its awareness because its predictions and advice is based off being nigh omnicient and being able to compute probabilities using vast quantities of data to arrive at most probable best actions. Basically it predicts the future, and the existance of three ships worth of humans doing stuff outside its awareness and actively fighting against its influence makes those predictions less accurate.
those particular bits are also, interestingly, written as if someone is talking to aleph itself.

to most people it does just sell them obedience by making it just so damn convenient to be plugged in (like google these days) however I'm pretty sure in the books somewhere it does imply that it also uses its vast amounts of information to nudge people in the directions it wants by manipulating the information around them. Which may lead to other people intimidating the people into obedience without dirtying the hands of aleph itself

>>50246913
Best part is, the government can't really control them. They can only assign watchers like the Angry Asawira to make sure the assassins don't get up to any traitorous shit.

>>50246890
>>50246937
I'll admit I've not read those chapters in a while but I didn't think that the whole public part of the assassination was a thing they went for, but they were definitely quite comfortable with suicide missions.

They're basically just a vaguely controled intelligence agency made up of patriots who are willing to die for their country, and to do whatever is necessary to keep their country and its secrets safe.
Which when compared with what the Hexahedron is doing isn't all that bad.

>>50246913
They do a bunch of other spy agency stuff (espionage, counter-intelligence, training insurgents, etc) but pretty much. They're like Hexas, but bigger and louder.

>>50246937
>Angry Asawira

Is this some sort of meme?

>>50246953
It's in the Fiday fluff. They're meant to make their kills as public and flashy as possible, because being feared is the only way the Old Man of the Mountain can get his rocks off.

They're basically the same as the Hexahedron, just less controlled.

>>50246983
Someone suggested an Angry Marines paint job on Asawira to make it clear Asawira is outside the Hassassin Brotherhood.

>>50246953
>Hexahedron
Actually, what are those guys doing? CIA doing CIA stuff?

>>50246764
>for not being their Islam.
Actually fluff mentioned "Haqqislam nation", if I remember correctly.

>>50247210
They basically sabotage any attempts by Yu Jing or other minor powers at diminishing PanOceania's dominance through subterfuge and illegal activities.

>>50247274
>Yu Jing or other minor powers
>OTHER minor powers
[angry chinese noises]

>>50247274
That doesn't seem so much asshole-ish, but rather sensible.

>>50247024
>They're meant to make their kills as public and flashy as possible,
So they are IRG/Mossad

>>50247035

They seem awfully chummy with the dear Brotherhood though.

>>50247210

Making sure the wageslaves don't rebel against their megacorp masters.

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>>50247306
Don't worry, the boys and girls in blue are always willing to help the less fortunate.

>>50247356
>her panties are actually more modest than her uniform
Truly, PanO is the master of the human sphere for a reason.

>>50247210
>covert paramilitary operations, destabilization missions, training of rebel troops, key target abductions, interrogation sessions, and ‘termination of targets with extreme prejudice’
Yeah, CIA stuff. YJ seems to divide such roles between agents and Ninjas, while Haqq has the Hassassins, Aleph has Dasyus and Nomads have the Black Hand.

>>50247455
That was supposed to be a Fusilier from the starter, not the Tech Bee.

>>50247480
So a Hexa would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?

>>50247544

Seems as aweful waste of a perfectly good bullet.

Also, any chance of more RPG previews floating about?

>>50245476
A bit too much like Chaos/Genestealer Cults,

>>50247687
Newer than the PanO one?

>>50248098

Any chance of links to the pdfs?

The way things are going, we would probably see the next expansion book before the RPG.

>>50248361
http://www104.zippyshare.com/v/X3wj5LlJ/file.html

>>50247687

Does the man *need* to die? Yeah, shoot him twice before throwing.

Just a casuality? Throwing out is fine

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>>50246788
My CA/Onyx force is built around exactly the idea of a psyops unit that is clad in shining, bright armor and posit their objective as revealing the truth to the inhabitants of the Human Sphere, gathering the dirt on everyone and releasing it as far as they can. There's hardly a need to lie, too, the truth about ALEPH and the state of everything that the big powers are doing behind closed doors is enough to sow discord among them.

Hell, wasn't the whole ALIVE thing also a Combined Army psyop?

It is also hilarious to imagine thousands of Ikadrons and Unidrons furiously shitposting online when they're not in combat. Ah, the marvels of technology.

>>50248413

Cheers for the link.

>>50248603
Since you are a CA player, what is their general flavor in a few words?

I don't think I get them. I can do this with almost all factions:
PANO: Elite shooters with the best equipament in the human sphere, but poor discipline and completely standard tactics
Yu-Jin: Power armored samurai
Ariadna: Rambo. Scottish, german and american variety
ALEPH: Google on steroids with its own defense force. And greek soldiers that don't make that much sense. Achilles is a womanizer.

Can't quite get the grasp of CA.

>>50246664
I could jot down a quick tournament report at lunch time, if people are interested. I don't want the win to go to my head exactly, but I'm happy to share my experiences and add to collective knowledge. Just don't take it as gospel

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>>50248658
In a few words.

CA: What is Loss of Lieutenant The Faction, they've got toys for any situation and plasma weapons everywhere. Vanilla lists will usually hover around a single combat group as they often consist of an expensive EI aspect lieutenant and several cheaper units that aid the guy. As long as you've got units with Cubes alive, the Mnemonica lieutenant will assume direct control of them and count as if he's on the table still.
Morats: Sayan brute force operating operators who never ever panic or retreat and think camouflage and subterfuge is for pussies. Straightforward and force you to learn the basics down to a T. Playing Morats is like going through a bootcamp - it's hard, it sucks and you've got shit equipment, and you love every second of it.
Shasvastii: Being reworked, but they're the army where you can hand your opponent an empty courtesy list because everything is camouflaged or hidden deployed. Welcome to Vietnam, son, population: You, a Sphinx and fifteen other camouflage markers.
Onyx Contact Force: For when you thought four Unidrons are too few and wanted to field unlimited amounts of the glorious little buggers. Aggression themed sectorial with lots of extremely agile units and no smoke. They may sometimes actually experience Loss of Lieutenant.

>>50248658
>Yu Jing: Power armoured samurai
>basing glorious chinese empire on dirty jap scumbag
Remember Nanjing. No forgiveness.

And CA is exactly what it says on the tin: an alien army that combines the strengths of various different species.

Also Ariadna don't get germans. It's french, scottish, american and russian.

>>50248603
>It is also hilarious to imagine thousands of Ikadrons and Unidrons furiously shitposting online when they're not in combat.
Unit 45661723, do refrain from revealing Hegemony secrets.

>>50248658
You have a functionally nonexistent understanding of every faction you listed. Impressive.

>>50248823

Yu Jing fluff is downright nonsensical in many ways for anyone with any familiarity with actual historical references.

>>50247544
What if that man was a Tiger Soldier?

>>50248981
I dunno, the Aleph description seems pretty spot on.

>>50248984
>chinese emperors are reinstated
>somehow this was meant to make the non-chinese YJ happy
You don't familiarity with anything, this shit just makes no sense.

>>50248658
>Yu-Jin: Power armored samurai
Absolutely subversive. I refuse to even recognize those dirty nips as a legitimate faction in this game.

StateEmpire rules eternal.

>>50249047

The fluff guy somehow thinking having the manchu filth back on the throne being a 'good idea' is another insult. It's like expecting Spain to be happy under muslim rule.

The Ming are legit though at least. Appeasing the <10% of the pop that isn't Chinese is a waste of time anyway.

>>50246788
is it that hard to imagine Shasvastii shit-posters?

Did they ever do any sexy female Morat art?

Just asking.

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>>50249579
How about the Oznat?

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>>50249604
Or the Raicho pilot?

>>50249604
>>50249619
Yes.

Though I was hoping for something more on the line of the OP's pic.

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>>50249629
No official stuff, but there's this fanart and a couple of Oznat pics by the same artist.

>>50249648
She could hack me any day.

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>>50249648
And this one.

>tfw no raizot pilot to battle for dominance with

>>50249619
Is that just concept art or an actual upcoming model?

>>50249808
Supposedly a model since the Guijra or whatever pilot is already designed as a mini.

>QT Gecko pilots when.

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>>50249851
>QT Gecko pilots when?
Now.

>>50245521
Seems like it could step into the role of the USARF pack and the 300 point packs, and using sectorial vs sectorial could be more problematic than faction vs faction like the other guy was saying. No way I'll ever confuse an Al-Fasid for a Hsien, but my friend confuses his alguaciles and moderators all the time.

>>50246739
Propaganda as fluff works perfectly as long as you get both sides o the story.
The GM can choose his version, and the players have the same exposure to the events as their characters. Especially in a setting where information, spying, black ops and gray morality are so prevalent.
It doesn't prevent you from having objective material like organization charts.

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>>50246983
Imagine being trained your whole life to be the embodiment of warrior skills and values. Imagine being outfitted with sleek power armor, heavy weapons, and body mods so that you can do your best to guard the honorable personage of the Shah and defeat the enemies of Haqqislam.

Now imagine that most of your on-duty time is actually spent trying to oversee the activities of a bunch of sneaky cowards who think they can flout the government when they wish and look down on you for not sharing their weird Sufi views. Even when you get to fight battles alongside them, it is typically under their officers and certainly under their directives. What's more, they don't even bother to bring heavy troops when they fight-- you, a medium infantryman, are usually the most well-armored guy in the squad. They are mistrustful of everyone, even the reincarnation of Saladin himself. Getting even the smallest scrap of benign information from one of them is like pulling teeth... from a wolf.

Being an Asawira is anger-inducing work, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>50250147
>their weird Sufi views
Hassassins are persians, they are shia.
Also, I could be wrong, but they didn't kill other muslims, only traitors and threats of Haqq.

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>>50250233
Oops, wrong pic

>>50249896
>Not Twinfus.
>Not a QT 3.14
HE'S NOT A CUTE!

ONE JOB CB

>>50250219
Hassassins take their philosophy and esotericism from Sufism.

>>50250219
I thought Haqqislam eliminated the two main sects.

>>50250284
Actualoly both Shia and Suffi take their esotericism from Persian culture.
>>50250319
>eliminated the two main sects.
Didn't they just said "fuck you saudi arabia, we are going into space"?

>>50250373
>Actualoly
Holy shit, what's habbening?
Actually*

>>50250373
>Didn't they just said "fuck you saudi arabia, we are going into space"?
Pretty much. I think the old sects still exist on Earth as a kind of backwards splinters.

>>50245547
You're asking people on tg not to overreact?

I suppose it might work...

>>50250219
>That fluff bit with the normal haqq guy who gets told about the hassassins by a hassassin just so the hassassin has a reason to kill him
They are truly the protectors of haqqislam.

>>50250278
Yeah, I mean, c'mon. Only Scarface allowed to be a reasonably dressed male pilot. It's a god damned scientific necessity to be a skimpy dressed female to be able to fit in those tight cramped suits.

>>50250147
Hassassins are cowards now?
Maybe i should read this alternate fluff...

>>50250499
>I think the old sects still exist on Earth as a kind of backwards splinters.
And they are still part of Haqqislam.

>>50250545
You're god damn right it is.

Plus the arms on the Gecko are fucking tiny even with the armour on them.
No way a dude fits in there.

>>50242417
>Oh god that bullshit on the forum they knew what the game was like art direction when they first joined.

Some of us joined back in pre-1st edition, where the most un-dressed model was Joan of Arc. The game made a very radical pandering turn in the meantime.

>>50250536
>>That fluff bit with the normal haqq guy who gets told about the hassassins by a hassassin just so the hassassin has a reason to kill him
Page, please.

>>50250636
>where the most un-dressed model was Joan of Arc
Such thing never existed. The bare-ass multi Moira came out the same month as Joan.

>>50250685
It was online, spent a while looking for it, but couldn't find it. I thought it was a unit description or an article in the main site, but... Who knows where the fuck I read it now.

>Hassassin Ayyar has surprise shot lvl 2
>Actually can't use it because no way to enter marker state
Or, does holoprojector count as a marker state?

>>50251150
It does

>>50249896
Looks like the old Mobile Brigada

Does anyone else think holoechos are a bit op? You get free movement and they come back automatically without spending an order.

>>50250627
DID YOU JUST ASSUME ITS GENDER!?!!?

Oh, sorry. Wrong sectorial.

>>50250636
Wasn't the very first model bare midriff Uxia?

>>50251900
You need to spend an entire order to reactivate Holo, just like Camo. And you need to be out of LoF. But yeah, they are powerful, which is why few units have them and they tend to be defined by Holo.

>>50252006
Paracommando LGL, Ragik, and Joan.

>>50252059
On the reactive turn if they are out of LoF the holo echos come back automatically.

Have holoecho near corner of building. Spend one order to peek out and suprise shot someone in the face then move back behind full cover. At the start of the other players turn your holo echo comes back, place it at the corner ready to aro. It'd take camo 3 orders to do the same thing.

>>50252059
Unless it's the reactive turn, in which case the activating of holo-echoes is automatic as long as you started out of LoF from the enemy in the tactical phase.

You do have to be in B2B though, so it isn't much free movement, unless you're the Lu Duan.

>>50251981
Took me a second to get that Bakunin joke.

I'm still a scrub.

Does popping a pilot out of an unconscious TAG count as the alive TAG who can be used to dominate a zone through her army points?

>>50252255
No, operators can do that, pilots don't count for points, but can still act as models and don't generate orders.

>>50252338
So having a Pilot in a zone does nothing for counting up army points?

So will the Ayyar be preferable to the Lasiq now?

>>50252365
No, but the pilot could shoot people, backstab with their knife, pick up the flag in capture and protect, open panopolies, and do anything else a normal person could besides generate orders.

>>50251150
Holoechoes count as the marker game state, although the Holoecho state is a bit of a mess if you properly read their rules. It's not clear if you use figures instead of markers when combining with Holoecho L1 if the figures count as markers. The Holoecho marker state also only gives access to Surprise Shot L1, not Surprise Shot L2, although that seems a more simple omission.

>>50252404
In what role? I guess the various rifle profiles are somewhat comparable in role, but the tricks and skills you use with both are wildly different. Lasiq are a lot more in your face and have a significant offensive advantage. Ayyar are tricksier and more survivable.
Also, as great as Ayyar are, there's at least a 12 points cost difference, and you get a lot of shit on a Lasiq anyways.

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>>50252440
Let me change that, sorry, the Army Builder has a point value for the pilot for when they get out of the tag, where bikers do not have a separate point value. The biker off their bike is still worth the points of the unit, even if their bike is destroyed while out of it, where the pilot themselves is worth 0, and the tag I believe still counts as points wherever the leave it.

>>50252542
Of note is that, unlike bikers, pilots disappear if the inactive tag is destroyed.

Which is silly as fuck.

>>50252670
Oh yeah, I was just reading it and I didn't think about it when they mentioned how the TAG body disappears when the pilot is killed. Didn't think about the inverse of the pilot dying when the TAG is killed.

>>50252763
Yeah, I kinda see how one could view a survivor pilot kind of an exploit from mechanistic viewpoint, but it doesn't make sense from fluff perspective.

>>50252827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SH7CUqf-6Q

Pilot just gets salty and walks away.

>>50252440
Useful Pilots:
Scarface has a LSG.
O'Yoroi Pilot is actually quite good in CC.

>>50252503
>>50252404
Yeah, different roles. Lasiq is more direct shooter, while ayyar is a more diverse toolbox unit that has a gadget for most situations. You could have Ayyar posing as a Lasiq, snipe an enemy unit with a sniper rifle/mm rifle, close in, sweep the objective area with viral pistols, detonate mines with holoechos and do the objective, all the while a Lasiq team is covering his back and shooting thrats from afar. It's rrally not a choice between the two, especially when neither are that expensive

>>50252930
Gecko pilots have assault pistols now.

I have actually scored more kills with the pilot than the actual TAG in some games.

>>50252930
>O'Yoroi Pilot is actually quite good in CC.
Exactly why I used her as an example.

>>50252982
>Gecko pilots have assault pistols now.
After using shikami, I have a new appreciation for that gun, .

How do people still say Infinity exists, when travesties like this exist:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/kharn-the-betrayer-2016

One fucking infantry model: 35 dollars, USD.

>>50253059
>editing
"How do people say Infinity is expensive, when travesties like 35 dollar Kharn exist"

>>50253059
>>50253078
You're paying for more detail. Not more details, mind you, but more of the details that are there.


Also, I guess GW recasts are easier to find.

>>50253059
Well to start with, I'd pay more if Infinity was plastic instead of metal.

>>50253059
Don't worry, infinity is trying to become warhammer, so it's only a matter of time before our infantry just looks like marines and you can proxy back and forth.

>>50253302
Don't know that I'd agree unless they went with sprues and optional pieces as well.
Being able to pose models is one of the cooler things about GW kits.

>>50253302
>paying more for a cheaper material

Wew

>>50253302
People like you make me audibly why.

One reason infinity models are so nice is because they're metal.

Even KD models aren't as nice and that includes the resins.

>>50253484
Free posing will lead to compromises in models, such as wonky scale (orangutan hands on marines, for example).

Different options would be nice, but I personally wouldn't trade that with all the cons plastic has.

>>50248753

I would be very grateful for that. I can build usable PanO and Yu Jing in my sleep, but the moment I try to make a decent Tohaa list, my head goes blank.
WHERE ARE ALL THE SPECIALISTS

>>50253673
>Even KD models aren't as nice and that includes the resins.

That's a question of style and not execution. Resin is not inferior to metal in holding detail even a little bit.

>>50253989
It actually is due to being a softer material, pleb.

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>>50254053
Jesus you're dumb.

>>50254130
Well, I own KD resins and infinity models.

And I can tell you that infinity has much nicer, cleaner models since I'm holding them both in my hand.

Dumb cunt.

>>50253857
Kosuil engineers,
Sukeul, Sakiel, Clipsos, Kamael, and Kotail FOs,
Kumotail doctor-engineers
Gap Tarsos, Daniel and Kamael Paramedics
Taquel and Keltaer CoCs

The only area they hurt a bit in is hackers, with only kamaels and Keesan to pick from.

>>50254314
There's so many specialists. Made all the more flexible by Triad rules.

Meanwhile in PanO, list of Engineers:
Machinist

WELP.

>>50254430
Techbee is the new machinist.

At least I'll be using it as a proxy.

Fuck siestas.

>>50248413

So some of the local Omn on Varuna were modified by the Tohaa. Interesting.

>>50253989
Yes it is. It is an intrinsic quality of the material's atomic structure.

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>>50253302

>>50254430
Including:
Infiltrating TO specialists
2 wound AD specialists
6-4 super jumping specialists
2 wound lieutenant specialists

>>50253633
Cheaper material, sure.
But a better material. Fuck, I'd be happy if they just stopped putting lead in there. I like being able to do my hobby in my bedroom/around the house, instead of having to clean my models outside with a mask on then having to change my clothes and vigoriously wash...

>>50255437
Nah, the people really REALLY getting wrecked by the shit where in the factories, being exposed long term to it. Everyone's grandpa didn't die at the age of 40 because they painted their house or nothing.

You should stop worrying that much. As long as you aren't licking the things or sanding them in order to sniff the stuff, you should be fine.

>>50255550
>or sanding them in order to sniff the stuff, you should be fine.
Fuck.

>>50255550
For brain damage and infertility, yeah. But as a endocrine blocker, it can affect your mood and testosterone production and binding, so the amount that I find acceptable is 0.

I know you can't avoid it completely, but I don't want to introduce new methods of getting it.

>>50255437
I'm pretty sure they've been lead-free or near-lead-free for a while, anon. At least the dust is too heavy to stay suspended after sanding, unlike carcinogenic resin or HIPS.

>>50253342
>you can proxy back and forth

You already can do that in infinity since.... N1 m8

And nah, few S5 existed doesn't meant we'll go at GW dark side anytime, not when Bostria and his sleeky breeky fetish still exist. hell its just 1 to each subfaction and only 5 subfactions have them.

>>50252930
>Raicho pilot has weird unique statline that includes BS12
>only way to make use of it is with a regular fucking pistol
Is it not enough that she's garbage while inside the TAG? Can't she at least be a little special outside of it?

>>50255973
I always found it weird that they took BS15 away from the Raicho. That was it's unique thing: It just was more Dakka than most other non-PanO TAGs, which was represented by the BS hail of bullets.

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>>50256011
>lower BS
>replaced HGL profile with pointless heavy pistol
>Sogarats got a movement buff and price drop just in case you were still considering it
>price actually rose despite this

>>50252930
Anaconda pilot has a BS12 Spitfire and the Iguana's got a 2W HI with HMG......but they're Operators, so technically not Pilots

Are you really supposed to just use Patroclus as a body double for Achilles? Seems like a massive waste of points.

Like, for fifty something points, I could get extra guys to hand out orders or even fight almost as good as Achilles (Where Pootroclus is essentially a myrmidon in combat). What am I not seeing here?

>>50256940
Really I'm not sold on the duo, but Patroclus by himself is solid. Surprise shot and ODD with the added bonus of 6-4 movement and the holoprojector shell game is great. He's far more capable than a Myrm.

>>50256940
You can, and the duo can be pretty devastating, but it's a LOT of points. I prefer Pat with ODD because he can stack some heavy modifiers. Pat is basically a Myrmidon Officer but also super fast, not Impetuous, and Holoprojector L2 got a huge boost in HSN3; L3 is even better.

>>50239915

>that picture

Why do people who play this game all hate women?

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>>50257219
I FUCKING love women. I masturbate religiously, like, five times a day to women. If anything, why do YOU hate women so fucking much? Why don't you want to look at women, anon? Are you a faggot? Why would a faggot who hates women even bother accusing other men of hating women? You know what? Fuck this shit, I'm going to go masturbate to women right fucking now. Have fun being triggered by women existing and projecting your hatred of women on other people.

>>50257219
>Virtue signaling on /tg/
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahhaha

>>50257403
>Virtue signaling on 4chan
FTFY

>>50257413
How else will you know that this anonymous poster is better than the other anonymous posters?

what are some good things to add to the Yu Jing side of red veil?

Tempted to start PanO but can't stand Techbees for their current attempts at destroying pants

>>50257219
how so?

>>50257428
To bad being PC just means you're a thin skinned weasel who doesn't have a real argument beyond being "Triggered"

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>>50257360
Now THIS is a shitpost I can get behind!

>>50257450
>Techbees aren't even a unit

>>50257470
they are getting models though, so they probably will become one.

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>>50257541
Anyone triggered by techbees is probably too new to realize every single fucking faction has a bunch of half naked women in service.

>>50257576
Don't forget that she hangs out at an undercover furry bloodsport rape brothel.

>>50257219
I don't know, why do you?

>>50257446

Celestial Guard (use GuiFeng proxy) + Kuang Shi for cheap orders and smokes for the Hsien.

Dao Fei and/or GuiLang for camo fun

Su-Jian is also good (and can have cat mode stand-in as a REM in the meantime).

>>50254452
Is it tech-bee or tech-coolie?

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>even the power armour has a nice booty
Truly the future is worth looking forward to

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>>50257576
>that file name
>mfw

This is the closest scene I can come up with https://youtu.be/PftOxn4ANjc?t=6

>>50257610
Also don't forget that "she" anatomically has more in common with a Prius than with you

>>50257772
Why do they make their poses wider than the base?

>>50257446
>>50257773
Also the HRMC Yan Huo.

What's going on ITT?

>>50258032
Because they hate being restricted by bases. So, they do whatever and then tell you to use the silhouette thingamabob checker.

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>>50258259
The FUTURE of arms and armor.

How would you guys make an Infinity dungeon crawler?

>>50258259
Corvus Belli's Infinity: The Forums™ saw an argument crop up over a pin up character getting a model that potentially allows them to be used in the game proper (no word on if she actually can or not aside from proxying) and is being released alongside several more sensibly dressed women who are well respected by their male peers. I guess.
Also everyone else is mad their TAG pilots aren't in space suits like the gecko pilot, who works in space. Nomads win again!

>>50258396
>Also everyone else is mad their TAG pilots aren't in space suits like the gecko pilot, who works in space. Nomads win again!
Meanwhile I'm pissed I'm not getting some cutie as fuck space twins in leopard print thongs and tube tops.

I can never win.

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I thought the limit on battle groups was 10 orders?

>>50258448
You still got the Lizard and Szalamandra pilots.

>>50258484
Lizard Pilot is a hot piece of ass but the Szalamandra is a poor mans Hazmat.

What happens to the orders you set aside for AD troops when you use a coordinated order? Does it go to waste or can the troops themselves use the orders they were set aside to have for themselves?

>>50258448
Geckos have always been destined for one male and one female pilot. They're perfect for it.

Now if they're both dudes and we don't get a gas mask cutie with oddly form-fitting cargo pants, then I'll be mad. But I'm alright with this, Nomads get a lot of sexy stuff even outside of pilots anyway.

>>50258466
It is. Must be a bug. Try reloading the page and making the list again.

>>50258558
Why can't people accept the gecko pilots' gay love? I mean, the gays have to go somewhere and: PanO is ultimate christian capital of the world, Yu Ying probably makes gays into Kuang Shi, Haqq probably has all the gays in the Hassassin Govad's hit list and Ariadna is too full straight people for them. So, don't go trying to kick them out of their only relatively safe heaven.

>>50258169

Haven't tried him, but I suspect getting the most out of him is a lot more challenging compared to the other famous HI we have.

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How is this list for an ITS tournament?
the missions are

Safe Area
Tic-Tac-Toe
Highly Classified
Decapitation

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>>50258558
>>50258651
I concur, I propose an amendment to the law of female pilots. All male pilots must be ripped as fuck and preferably shirtless (scarface punching that CA scum to death comes to mind)

>>50258557
Those orders never enter the regular pool, so they are wasted.

It's in the FAQ

>>50257773
>>50258169
Cool, thanks

>>50258651
Isn't it around year 2200? People are probably past kicking up a fuss about gays outside of fringe groups. And besides, mixed gender twins are always the hottest.

>>50258899
I support this.

>>50258321
space hulk, human spheres edition.

>>50258899
I for one welcome this new era of MANIME inspired pilots. Not!Kenshiro when?

>>50258321
It's called Shadowrun.

>>50259002
Pretty sure that if everyone is killing each other in war, they will kill each other for shit like fucking the wrong asshole.

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>>50257728
You could try at least.

>>50259002
I mean, if you really thing about it, Nomad communities (specifically on Bakunin) are probably the last hold-out for anti-gay sentiment.

Which in turn makes the Gecko Pilots love even more powerful

>>50259106
Modern Kum is shit, the old kum girl in the receiver position was way better.

>>50259072
Ariadna, maybe. But for the relevant factions it's all about profit margins and maintaining control. And when you can prey on people's fear of psychotic bio-modded monsters and flesh eating space aliens, you don't really need much else.

>>50259172
But, what about psychotic bio-modded GAY monsters?!?

>>50259185
>But, what about psychotic bio-modded GAY monsters?!?
=> Games Workshop

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>>50257728
Reminds me of Gaddafi's Amazon Guard, for some reason.

>>50259185
You think too small. Even most people who dislike homosex don't find it physically sickening, there's plenty of fetishes that Bakuninites are free to pursue that would make the normal populace of the human sphere start throwing up. And the Nomads are into that too.

>failing an ARM Roll caused by Fire Special Ammunition means losing all the points of the Wounds/STR Attribute of the Active Symbiont Armor Troop Profile
The Gorgos is a bad joke.

>>50259311
Well, they pretty much are the same thing.

>>50253059
40k army
>~$750 for 2500ish points of Nids

two 75 point tournament ready Warmahordes armies, and some other models
>~$400

Monpoc
>$135 and i still dont have half the buildings I need

Infinity ITS ready 300 point army
>$75-150

Part of the reason I lurk and why I flirt with dropping the money on this game is that It's s cheap to get in.

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>>50259535
I used to mess around and plan Infinity armies on a budget. The goal was to pay less than $100 and have a decent force that had a lot of variety.

Using Gamenerdz, (I was originally building them with Miniature Market) you can make a pretty nice force for the price. Their prices are comparative for one another.

Might start dabbling in that again. Terrain is what used to be very expensive for Infinity. Now, we have these guys selling almost a full tables worth for $100. It's getting a lot easier to demo and even set up for this game now than it was back in N2.

>>50259583
>Terrain is what used to be very expensive for Infinity
>What is free terrain

>>50259621
No such thing if you want it to look nice.

>>50259583
The terrain packs are actually a super decent way to get a workable table now that red veil has bridges and stuff.

Once (if) they drop the RV terrain pack I may pick it up and see how fancy I can make a table using just the and OPIS/USA card buildings.

>>50259657
Untrue. But making free stuff look decent is definitely time consuming and takes a lot of effort. The classic "fast, good, cheap: pick two" thing.

>>50259311
>>50259496
Though I hope the high command of Haqq isn't quite as ugly as old Mo, there. Damn, the ugly stick did a number on him.

>>50259706
I'm just saying if you want terrain that is going to last and that will look ace, you are going to have to drop some money. Unless you own a lot of the stuff you would need already, some how.

>>50259662
Those are nice for pick up games and even as filler for tables that could use more terrain on them. The new RV stuff is pretty nice and varied unlike Op:Ice. They also have an ALEPH themed one if I am not mistaken, so it is not difficult to get a lot of different terrain on the cheap.

Thinking of picking up another faction to tinker with on the side. Was thinking Bakunin since the idea of mutant fetish police seems interesting.

Was wondering if Moderator core teams are worth it. Stats and such don't seem particularly glowing.

>>50259825
With the amount of shock ammo we are seeing in N3, they aren't terrible even with their less than average stats. Shock Immun, BTS3, ability to form a fire team and access to some interesting equipment make them a cheap, viable fire team.

I just hope they make the new Riot Grrrls look somewhat decent given the boring pose from the new Bakunin starter.

>>50259870
Bakunin needs more suggestive posing for their miniatures. Even their remotes should be trying to hump someone. Anything else is inexcuseable.

>>50259870
True, very cheap team to feed orders to something else. Especially since I'm looking forward to the Uberfallkommando after seeing some of the design specs.

>>50259870
Shock immunity doesn't mean anything for 1w models that don't have dogged or NWI. I'm not going to waste my time trying to heal a moderator. You still go down when wounded.

The only real power of moderators is that they're dirt cheap spitfires. 0.5 SWC? Really, take two or three!

>morat vanguards are wearing three tons of armor and look bulky as fuck
>1 armor
>0 BTS
>1 wound
If there was ever a misleading miniature...

>>50260712
>USAriadna grunts wear helmets and titty sweaters
>3 ARM
>Shock immune

Seems Morats need to invest in titty sweaters.

>>50260738
USAriadna's armor is dumb as fuck, the grunts wear little armor, the marauders wear more armor and the minutemen wear ALL the armor. They all somehow have armor 3, bts 0 and 1 wound. Hell, the medium armor of the marauders lacks shock resistance, making it weaker than the grunts'.

>>50260839
>Knight of Montessa wears hugely heavy Father-Knight plates and pauldrons.
>Same armor as tittyboob Riot Grrls.
>Same armor as sweatervests.

Admittedly, I can retcon it in my head: Armor's an abstraction based on how hard it is to take a trooper out of action, including how they take cover. Like, the Morats are dumb klingons who don't take cover right, so they are ARM1, while wily Americanski are tough MFs against the spacepeople.

>>50261048
BTS should also he considered. Oftentimes, bulky armor gives good BTS, even if the armor score is a bit sup-par when compared to others. Additionally, the difference between armor 3 and armor 4 should be visually less pronounced than the difference between armor 1 and armor 3.

Bostria talked about the USARF using tesseum trauma plates, which explains why they have good armor scores, but not why their heavier looking dudes have the exact same armor score without even getting a boost to BTS or something to differentiate.

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>>50257360
>>50257403
>>50257463
>>50257717
Goddamn it /tg/.

>>50258321
Many parts of Dawn and Paradiso are still unexplored. Same with Human Edge. Send the party there.
Or make it about infiltrating a building in the civilized part of the Human Sphere, like a corporation HQ or a military base.

>>50259055
Fuck off with that shit. Shadowrun is an insult to cyberpunk.

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>>50258651
Because I already painted one Gecko as super manly and the other one will be super girly.

>>50259825
Moderator core can be hilarious in that it can pack multiple spitfires for cheap. They are still going to be order supply for something heavier, like a Taskmaster duo or a Lizard or Scarface. But yeah, playable. Just don't expect them to actually accomplish much by themselves.

>>50261079
Minutemen seem to have some kind of powered armor, so that explains some of the bulkiness.

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>>50259914
>Even their remotes should be trying to hump someone

>>50261048
Montesa has less bulky looking chestplate... But yeah, I'm not happy about him being as huge as Father-Knight. As if PanO didn't have enough problems with samey looking HI.

>>50261262
>I acted like a retard and got told off!
>I am a master ruseman!
This trend of acting like an idiot and then feeling accomplished because people told you you're an idiot is never going to go away, is it?

I can only imagine what it will be like once this brand of "trolling" begins manifesting in real life.
>guy walks into store and pulls out paper bag
>begins eating shit from the bag
>everyone tells him he's a gross faggot
>guy walks out, mouth covered in shit, laughing
>these people take the bait so easily!

>>50261362
I'm not the guy who has posted the original bait. Y'all should have just ignored or dismissed it. /tg/ is truly the easiest board to bait.

>>50261262
I was going to post something like that when people inevitably replied to the obvious bait, but I can't get mad at >>50257360. I just can't. It's a masterful counter-shitpost.

>>50261482
Acting like a retard is not trolling, bro. Trolling involves showing off the other party as ignorant. Not yourself.

>>50260839
Riot Grrls wear power armour and their armour is only 3. How is this still a thing? They even have those "nipples" there showing on their armour. If Ariadna grunts get armour from their tittysweaters then Riot Grrls get only Hyperdynamics from their suit. Also Reverend Custodiers, Moiras and Sin Eaters to name a few get Armor 3 from their assless chaps but why does Sin Eater gain that armor too? Didn't see any nipples there or assless chaps.

>>50261482
People here are willing to entertain ideas, even absurd ones.

We know it´s bullshit. We just like to discuss shit.

>>50261534
Trolling is just deliberately saying things in order to make people mad, it doesn't have to be some clever and nuanced art and it usually isn't.
This wasn't a very good one though. I don't think it actually pissed off anyone, people just acknowledged its existence and wondered if the faggot would continue.

>>50261277
use wash on metal part :3

>>50261575
>Trolling is just deliberately saying things in order to make people mad
That's what people call trolling nowadays. In the old days of usenet, it was more associated with getting people to act like idiots for amusement. Oftentimes, this was achieved by saying something that is true, but that many people get wrong, in order to get them to act like know it alls while spouting info those more educated knew to be wrong. This could also be done to discredit someone during a discussion.

For example, a good troll would be a post claiming that healing surges damaged 4e without going too deeply into why. This should lead a lot of people who believe themselves to be experts on tabletop RPGs to start chiming in with flawed math or outright claiming flasehoods that they completely believe (Such as "healing surges mean everyone can heal themselves all the time and trivialized clerics!"). An example of another fairly good, if overused, troll is "Why doesn't batman kill the joker?" as it often brings people who believe themselves expert on the characters to go into detail when they have incomplete information from watching a movie or two and the information will almost surely be incorrect.

A good troll also has self sustaining attributes, dragging people with varying levels of knowledge on the topic to argue among themselves without further action from the instigator.

Anyway, the point is that I really wish people still knew how to properly troll. "Look at how retarded I am." Is boring to watch.

>>50261482
Is this meta-bait?

>>50254314

>Daniel

Is that a new unit I haven't of yet?

>>50261896
Yes. Its a former Sakiel, corrupted by the EI, but reformed and brought back into the fold.

>>50253857
I got caught up yesterday, but I can durdle around with a report today and post ir in this and or the next thread.

But Tohaa have wonderful specialists all around. I don't actually think they have an outright bad or overcosted one: all of them either have the necessary tools or proce point to do their job. My MVP is usually Sukuel FO Lt, though at this tourney Clipsos FO, Kaeltar CoC, Sakiel Para, and Kosuil were baller. Aelis always does nothing for me....maybe one day.

>>50262403
I will forever swear by the Kotail FO. I never leave home without one.

>>50262557
Can you give those guys Symbiomate? Idk how Markers work with Holo2

>>50262063
Daniel sounds like one hell of a flip-flopper to me.

>>50261048
>Admittedly, I can retcon it in my head: Armor's an abstraction based on how hard it is to take a trooper out of action, including how they take cover. Like, the Morats are dumb klingons who don't take cover right, so they are ARM1, while wily Americanski are tough MFs against the spacepeople.
This is good.

>>50259454
Bring a symbio mate.

Even without those it's a 4 wound model with buddy that meaning it has the capability to deal 6 wounds on a single order. And the AP Spitfire let's it hit almost as hard as a main battle TAG for under 90.

>>50261079
I assume it's the dogged on the Marauders, and combination of higher speeds while maintaining shock immunity to simulate better optimized armor.

The Montesa has the almost universal pauldrons, but the chest plate is different. It's probably a less effective material ala the Zuyong Kevlar chest piece/GRRLS vs the Yujing higher end models/MB.

>>50262584
You can, but then it reveals which one is the real one pretty much.

I've always felt between his mobility and holos he doesn't really need a mate or bomb to do his job.

hows that 300 point tohaa box?

>>50260839
"USAriadna is dumb as fuck."

FTFY

New thread?

>>50264723
Decent. Good for starting a new faction.