We can all name a dozen high INT/low WIS characters, but what

>>50257919
Basically any "magical negro" stereotype.

>>50257919
Jayne Cobb.

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>>50258334
And their ilk.

>>50257919
I don't know. She seemed pretty intelligent to me. Just weird. I think that argument could be made, though.

>>50258270
He was fairly aware of danger, but he was bad at reading people and frequently made very poor decisions. He was fairy strong willed, though. I'm not sure where I stand on this one.

Rorschach from Watchmen comes to mind. He's not exactly dumb, but he has a muchchigger wisdom score because of his experience.

>>50258270
Solid post. 10/10
Although I'm the faggot who loves Firefly so much that he puts characters in every campaign.

>Jayne as a Pokemon Trainer
>Zoey as a inner city detective
>Wash as an alien cab driver

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>>50257919

I would keep her in a rape basement if I could get away with it.

>>50257919
The line between the two is strange to me.

my sense tells me that wisdom should be knowledge and intelligence should be mental processing power.

But the line is somehow blurred and distorted.

>>50258409
Is that a "Methods of Rationality" reference?

>>50258412
int is book smarts, wis is street smarts. my sister would be hi int low wis, shes a genious, but isnt smart enough to know not to walk alone at 1 am in a shit neighborhood

>>50258425

No, I just want to rape someone.

Guts.

>>50258412
>Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit
>Wisdom is knowing tomatos don't belong in a fruit salad

>Intelligence is the Harvard educated lawyer
>Wisdom is the street smart detective.

>>50258432
Well, alright.

Shes pretty juicy.

>>50258451
So intelligence is the "sciences", wisdom is the "arts" sorta thing?

>>50258412
>But the line [between INT and WIS] is somehow blurred and distorted.

The original six stats from D&D are not exactly the best way to model a characters' natural abilities. The fuzzy distinction between the mental stats is one of the bigger reasons.

>>50258428

Where do you live?

>>50258493
jesus christ anon.

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>>50257919 (OP) #
My pick is Captain Tylor here.
I think there's great wisdom to his life philosophy.

But I think Luna's pretty smart, she just had a different set of beliefs.

>>50258270 #
>Jayne Cobb
I mostly agree. His wisdom seems specialised though.
>sense motive(enemy): +4
>sense motive(woman): -4
But then, he's wise enough to not kiss them on the mouth, so I guess I agree.

>>50258296 #
>Forrest Gump
This is the post to beat.
Dang fine example.

>>50258493
I remember hearing there are more sexual assaults during the day.

Regular assaults are probably more at night.

This would be sensible if I could cite something reputable.

>>50258477
No, because you'd be wise enough not to major in art if you want to make money.

>>50258533
"arts" are all about "philosophy", and "experiences" though.

It wasn't about choosing one or the other, rather more about what they rely on.

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He's not that low int, but what about good ol' Samwise Gamgee?

>>50258505

He wont save your sister if I find her.

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>>50258477
Intelligence is knowing facts, making connections, and innovating.
Wisdom is common sense, practicality, awareness, and gut feeling.

Ask a wizard about the planes and he'll give a speech about their properties or some shit. A druid will give you practical advice like 'Don't fuck around with the plane of rosebuds, its not what you think'

>>50258554
I know, but I saw the opportunity.

>>50258575
He's more clever than most of the hobbits, id argue for something like
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>>50258584
Pic related is high Int low Wis, as all Wizards are wont to be.

>>50258584
>Now all I want to know is what the hell the Plane of Rosebuds is

>>50258588
Fair enough.

>>50258584
I have problems with wisdom being boiled down to intuition. Philosophy seems like something that should fit into wisdom, but philosophy as we know it is fairly knowledge-intensive. I guess it goes back to the stats not being very well distinct from one another.

>>50258584
I remember hearing about a mathmatician who was not very smart. He made some breakthrough in mathematics that took hard work, not intelligence.

So I guess theres not a good way to show someone who's well educated rather than gifted mentally using our lovely six stat system.

>>50258637
Gotta remember that Wisdom is classified as a mental stat for a reason, the two are intrinsically tied together at some point, just like the physical stats are.

If you really wanna obfuscate things, consider that the concept of self would be governed by charisma, and that means that a great deal of philosophy would be entirely charisma based.

>>50258662
I never thought about the connection between charisma and philosophy.

I suppose thats because charisma is typically a mixed bag of "random social ability"

>>50258425
The fuck, when was Luna in a rape dungeon?

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>>50257919
This is probably the most standard /tg/ example.

He can make shotguns out of nothing with his arcane knowledge, but he's bluntly unaware of the consequences of doing so.

>>50258637
I would fit philosophy under awareness. Philosophers tend to make people aware of shit like their own existence, the meaning of things, and ideas.

>>50258700
Only in Malfoy's imagination.

And I guess Harry's after Malfoy brought it up.

>>50257919
I mentioned to my wife that you suggested Luna Lovegood had low intelligence.
She called you a cunt and went on to creative actions she might take if she came upon you in a dark alley.

>>50258650
I'd say that goes to wisdom. Wisdom is usually the slower working of the two, a study work that grinds into understanding.

>>50258620
Brokeback mountain

>>50258714
Well that's disappointing. I always hoped Luna was going to end up with Harry.

>>50258728
Its probably easier to see a high intelligence low wisdom Luna Lovegood. Or maybe Low Charisma since she doesnt seem to give a fuck about other peoples' beliefs when compared with her own.

>>50258749
Well, Methods of Rationality only goes over the first year, and Luna's shifted to be a year their junior. So maybe its anyone's game.

To be clear both to you and whoever else might be following this string, Methods of Rationality is a well written Harry Potter fanfiction, that was, for a long time, written as a web fiction thing. Like "Worm" I guess. Except I think I enjoyed MoR more than Worm.

>>50258804
It's got nothing on My Immortal.

>>50258820
Man, I just finished reading MoR.

I was excited for a few seconds.

Fuck you.

>>50257919
>Luna
>Low INT
You are aware she's in the House for brainy people right?

>>50258412
Wisdom lets you choose the correct option
Int gives you more options.

>>50258755
Low Charisma easily, Harry and Ginny are the only people who give her the time of day.

>>50258575
>>50258605
I'd argue that his highest score is charisma.
Sam would totally be bard

>>50258296
Didn't he take advanced physics courses to even out his shitty math grades to remain academically eligible for football in the book?

>>50259462
Gah, not math. English. Bloody fuck, how'd I mix that one up.

>>50258425
Why would anyone ever reference that awful fanfic?

>>50259480
To make rape jokes?

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Street smart, quick on his toes, savvy, but barring his knowledge of the Falcon, not really 'book smart'

>>50259480
Aside from it also being message fantasy, I found it to be better than average fanfic.
But that's like a better than average 3rd grade musical; it's not saying much.

>>50258584
>Plane of rosebuds
So it's a plane full of nothing but child sized sleds and nostalgia?

>>50259342
no

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Would this little dude from the old Bionicle Flash game count?

>>50258860
I suggest r/animorphs, if you want something arguably better by most standards

>>50259342
There are several reasons why thats retarded

>>50259480
Because it's funny, anon. Nothing complicated about it

11 year old Draco leisurely planning out his rape dungeon because he's literally been raised to be evil is hilarious to anyone with thick skin and a sense of humor. You're missing one or the other.

>>50259573
And making the worst decisions, like messing with the hutts, going outside for the night in a deadly snowstorm, believing his psycho son.

WIS is clearly his other dump stat. He is a pure DEX/CHA character

>>50259573
>Knows parsecs aren't a unit of time, hopes desert yokels he's scamming won't know

Chewie really is the brains between the two of them.

>>50259894
There's nothing funny about rape, except clown rape, but aside from that, nothing funny about it.

>>50259936
They've clarified this. The Kessel run is about finding the shortest route through a very dangerous part of space, not the fastest.

>>50259894
I don't have much of a sense of humour, no, but there is nothing humourous about that. I'm not saying that it offends me or makes me feel awful in some way (though it is quite tasteless), I'm saying that there's nothing clever or amusing about it.

>>50259894

>Rape
>Funny ever

I'm literally shaking with rage Anon

>>50260108
>Rape
>Funny never

I'm literally shaking with mirth Anon

>>50259997
Well, the moment wasn't supposed to be funny. It was supposed to be a "wow why does he think this is okay" moment.

>>50259960
Sure, if by "They've clarified" you mean "EU writers took it literally rather than Han being a liar"

>>50260108
Any subject can be made funny
There are volumes of jokes about prison rape.
Lighten up and live longer, or don't.

>>50259894
>Because it's funny, anon
But this wasn't.
Don't confuse being tasteless with being funny.

>>50259960
Specifically, the entire "kessel run" is literred with black holes, and gravity can yank you out of hyperspace. Black holes being giant gravity machines, seriously fucks up travel. By disabling safety features, you can get closer, and by extreme calculation, even beyond the normal amount done by the nav computer, you can cut down on time/distance. Han probably did it mostly by feel, and likely dropped out more than would be optimal to "see" where he was.

>>50260108
look anon

the seriousness of the topic has very little to do with humor that can potentially be derived from it

There are all manner of jokes wherein the comedy comes from an immensely horrifying power, like murder, racism, so on, and so forth.

>I met a girl in the park. Immediately, there were sparks between us. As we made love, I thought to myself, 'damn, this taser was a good investment'.

The comedy comes from the bait and switch, and the shock. The rape itself does not generate the humor, it is merely the vessel. Some people simply are too close to an issue, have too many painful associations, and so the joke cannot be funny to them because it is linked to pain. Which I get, but hey, I don't stop people from making short jokes or bipolar jokes or hoarding jokes or PTSD jokes. They're funny if well structured, even if they carry extra sting for me because of my own personal associations.

>>50260250
I'm sorry but this post may have high wisdom, but it has far too much intelligence to be on thread topic.
Good effort though.

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>>50257919
Sam Vimes. He's not really low INT, but he definitely has higher WIS.

>>50260578
Also arguably Rincewind, who's something of a dolt and is profoundly unlucky but manages to get out of scraps constantly using common sense. His curse (and sort of Vimes' as well) is that he's a person with decent sense who lives on a disc being carried through space by 4 elephants and a turtle.

Also maybe Death? Not so much unintelligent there as much as naïve.

And Carrot, too, now that I think about it.

And obviously Nanny Ogg. Weatherwax is uneducated but smart, so she doesn't qualify.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say one of the best things about Pratchett was his ability to make uneducated and unintelligent people good, sensible characters without being patronizing.

God, I miss him.

>>50257919
Luna has low CHA, her INT is basically normal and her WIS is through the roof.
She's a creative, abstract thinker, and observant to the point that people think she's crazy. They just can't see what she sees, but she does a poor job of communicating what she's seeing, partly because she doesn't know, nobody knows, or it's unknowable, but mostly because she's not so great at communicating it.
INT is mostly what you know, how fast you learn.
WIS affects your ability to work around what you don't or can't know.
CHA can determine your ability to teach or convince others
a combination of the three will make a person seem "smart"
at least that's how I see it

>>50257919
INT = "Could I?" = knowledge.
WIS = "Should I?" = decision-making.

Any detective or shrewd businessman has high WIS, no matter his INT score.

While high INT affects your overall pool of decisions (what you can do), it doesn't affect the optimal decision which can be judged to be so only via high WIS (what you should do).

>>50260108
But anon.
Clown rape.

>>50260614
Agreed anon.
You could also make the argument that Wizards are characteristically High Int low Wis, while Witches are characteristically High Wis Low Int, and despite the fact that they're often doing basically the same kinds of magic this dichotomy characterizes how they go about their spells. Witches and Wizards can both do the same scrying spell but a witch will do it with a pen knife, half her lunch, the nearest flat surface and a dead rat, while the Wizards will do it over the course of five hours using esoteric components collected from around the world because that's just the way it's done.
Also, Leonard de Quirm is the quintessential High Int Low Wis character, since the man literally invents WMDs because he believes whole heartedly that no-one would ever use them and thus would bring about world peace.

>>50260895
The fact that clown rape is a /nonzero possibility/ in the states right now.

Any sports commentator.

>>50259342
Right stat, wrong class.

He's not a Bard, but a Paladin.

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>>50260953
I would put him at catastrophically low levels of intelligence and charisma, standard wisdom, and occasionally he just gets a great roll out of nowhere.

>>50260614

I forget the exact quote, but in Small Gods they say something similar to "Being "Simple" is not the same thing as being dumb." when describing Brutha.
Who is very low int, but arguably very high wis.

>>50258522
maybe that's just because most people are active during the day.

>>50259936
>>50259960
It makes perfect sense for Han to make up an obvious lie. All scam artists do this to weed out everyone but the dumbest and weakest before trying to make money off of them to waste as little time as possible on people who would eventually be able to see through the hoax.

>>50259297
>You are aware she's in the House for brainy people right?

>Ravenclaw
>house of brainy people

Fell for the meme, did you. It's the house of weirdos and obsessive nerds.

It genuinely is, it's known for their quirkiness and curiousity rather than their straight knowedge.

>>50260953
how does he have high wis?

>inb4 "A lot of what he says is actually geniuse if you think about it"

It really isn't, it's FUNNY, and it's often internally consistent, but it's not insightful in any way that jellyfish should be made water.

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Darius

>>50257919
samwise gangee

>>50261065
Pterry used that description a lot, really. Pretty sure he described carrot with almost the exact same phrase.

>>50261181
I seem to remember some variation on "Simple doesn't mean dull. A blade is simple."

>>50257919
Luna has a very high WIS, arguably higher than her INT.

>>50258804
>Methods of Rationality is a well written

kek

get the fuck out of here Yuddy

>>50261228
Yeah, it's fun and interesting and all, but I wouldn't call it well written. Structurally, it's a mess.

>>50261118
Obi-Wan's reaction to it makes it clear he knew Han was spinning some bullshit, but he also knew they didn't have a choice.

Bloody EU missing the point again

>>50261254
It just has so much cringe in the early chapters too, man. The most hated on excerpt, but quite deservedly so:

"You turned into a cat! A SMALL cat! You violated Conservation of Energy! That's not just an arbitrary rule, it's implied by the form of the quantum Hamiltonian! Rejecting it destroys unitarity and then you get FTL signalling! And cats are COMPLICATED! A human mind can't just visualise a whole cat's anatomy and, and all the cat biochemistry, and what about the neurology? How can you go on thinking using a cat-sized brain?"

>>50261327
that's amazing

>>50261327
It's the fun kind of cringe, quite unlike that stupid embarrassing thing you did years ago in school and cannot ever forget.

>>50261327
okay, speaking from a neutral but interested perspective, that could work excellently in a pulp-y urban science fantasy setting.

>>50260953
>>50261147
>>inb4 "A lot of what he says is actually geniuse if you think about it"
It's not genius by any stretch, but it is often wise.
There was a great quote after he took a "cleansing" swim in the Ganges river with a guru.
I can't be assed to find it right now, but here are a couple easy ones of varying wisdom:
>"A slug is always on its own. It's a lonely insect."
>"And we've got a toaster and everything. So there is no reason for the wedding."
>"To me, a cat is an easy pet, they don't need any spoiling or looking after."

>>50261389
the last one points towards average wis in the sense of: Has enough sense to understand which pet he prefers and why, but the other two are just dribble. The second shows a lack of empathy to his girlfriend, the first one's not only wrong, it also doesn't say anything.

And yes, I realize I'm applying INT-reasoning to why he's not got high WIS, but you shoud have the WIS to know that one can absolutely do that.

>>50261327
>>50261254
>>50261228
It's message fantasy, it cares far more about it's message than it does about characterization, story structure, or faith to source material.

>>50258620

Sleds. So many sleds.

>>50261403
I can't defnd the first one, it just sounds like metaphor.
>The second shows a lack of empathy to his girlfriend
You are applying criteria of worth and meaning that are not universal.
The wisdom of his position remains.
Like I said. I didn't pick them, they were just the first to pop up.
I'll be back.

>>50257919
Low INT high WIS is called The Fool archetype
It's omnipresent and the most important
Why do you think Homer Simpson is what he is ?

>>50261254
I think the main problem with it was that he tried to shove too much into a small timeframe.
Had he just given it a few more years, it wouldn't have been nearly so insufferable, and his pointless OC derailments wouldn't have get nearly so forced.
And he should have dialled down the preaching and cult bollocks, of course

>>50261165
>Jayne Cobb.
This answer actually is the best

>>50261369

The issue is that it's not really pulpy. You've got a not-even-teen-yet boy spouting that when it can't honestly be even the third most impossible thing he's seen today.

Part of it is that Yud doesn't really get 'If something happens the laws of physics say can't happen, then physics is wrong and must be adjusted'. But that's a general issue with the guy, seeing as he runs the most techno-rapture of techno-rapture singularity worshipper groups.

I have more than a little bit of dislike for the guy and how he's basically turned science and crazy logic into his own little religion.

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>>50257919

Nissas from MTG or mainly most of the planeswalkers. The majority of them aren't actually that book smart but make life decisions in such a manner such as Garruk who just failed his wisdom tests.

Baotou from Ghost in the shell, not smart but street wise.

A lot of characters from the warcraft franchise, those that act on hunch rather than planning.

Than we have Revy who's high wisdom low and rock who is low int but high wisdom.

To me its about being street smart.

>>50257919
Don't talk shit about Luna you fuck

Being a social autist doesn't mean you aren't intelligent

>>50261505

That's the point.

We are saying that her Int is really high, but his Wis is not.

Basically what we are saying is that she knows Tomato is a Fruit, but not that it doesn't belong in a fruit salad.

>>50260953
>>50261403
>>50261389
>There was a great quote after he took a "cleansing" swim in the Ganges river with a guru.
Found it:
>I don't feel like I'm 'round some sort of special power, but he seems like a really nice bloke, and that's all you want really.
>Nice bloke. Makes you feel welcome.
>He fed us, let me have a bed, messed about in his rubber dinghy.
>If that's what spirituality's about, that's just being mates, really.
>That's basic, innit?
>It's about gettin' on with people.

>>50261132
>gryffonfag detected

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>>50257919
Life is like a box of chocolates.

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>>50257919
>>50257969

>>50258412
I think that wisdom mostly comes down to judgment and perspective, while intelligence is more about raw processing power. So intelligence is about whether you have the smarts and wisdom is about what you do with them.

But the line between them is a bit fuzzy, especially since everything we're talking about is conceptual. You aren't accomplishing a physical task, so things are harder to delineate. And I think this is what makes the intelligence / wisdom split trickier than, say, strength / dexterity, even though both those attributes are obviously related.

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>>50259918
>psycho son.
That happened about the same amount that this guy being Darth Vader happened. Okay, slightly more than that.

>>50259797
That game was fucking awesome man.

>>50259918
>CHA

Never managed to talk his way out of anything.

>>50257919
Luna's not low INT, she's just a bit of a weirdo. She wouldn't be in Ravenclaw if she was stupid.

>>50259918
>going outside for the night in a deadly snowstorm
That was to save Luke's ass, though. He knew it was a stupid idea, but Luke is his friend and Han wanted to make sure he made back in one piece.

>>50258584
D&D Wisdom has nothing to do with common sense or practicality, it's a measure of how good your perception is. It's awareness and nothing more

>>50259573
Streetwise is a charisma skill

>>50261132
What I want to know is why they haven't nuked Slytherin yet. Or, at least, made a serious effort to revamp it. Because I don't think there has ever been a sympathetic person from Slytherin. Every single one of them is a dick, outright evil or at least shifty and opportunistic to a fault. The most likable guy from that house is probably that one sleazy, toadlike professor from the later books.

>>50263524

Also your willpower.

>>50263630
>What I want to know is why they haven't nuked Slytherin yet.
Nevermind Slytherin, why haven't they nuked Hufflepuff? The whole house is literally treated like the rubbish bin of the school. They're beyond a joke, it's absurd. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Also the most likeable Slytherin is Snape. Then again Snape is one of my favourite characters in the series, so I might be biased.

>>50263704
Frkm an in-universe perspective, Hufflepuff is irrelevant. Have it around for the shitters to keep the other houses clean. It's harmless. But Slytherin breeds faggotry and evil like a gay club run by the Cobra Commander, why the fuck is nobody doing anything?
Then again, I loved Harry Potter, but the setting and plot has more holes than actual material.

I also like Snape, but he's undeniably a huge fucking cunt that has no friends whatsoever. If you had to meet him or study under him, he'd probably be insufferable.

>>50263802
>But Slytherin breeds faggotry and evil like a gay club run by the Cobra Commander, why the fuck is nobody doing anything?
Because it also breeds half the ministry and basically half the greatest wizards in history.

>the setting and plot has more holes than actual material
Boy isn't that the truth. I can't wrap my head around how a setting so unbelievably retarded and fucked up as HP can be so interesting and enticing.

>he's undeniably a huge fucking cunt that has no friends whatsoever. If you had to meet him or study under him, he'd probably be insufferable.
Eh. He's very inconsistently depicted as a character (but then so are most others who aren't flat or part of Harry's inner circle) so it's hard to get a feel of how he'd actually act without Rowling forcing him into the gross bully role for the sake of Harry being a tragic victim and Slytherins being all cunts. But honestly, it doesn't even fit him. How can someone subtle enough to fool Voldemort and sensitive enough to stay friend with Lily Evans for a decade be so blatant in their unprofessionalism and partiality?

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>>50260614
Why must you remind me that Terry is dead :(

Also, agreed on OP

>>50263905
Because Lily Evans is dead. The man changed after she cut ties, that's what the memory of him calling her a mudblood is about. He became bitter and grew spurs

>>50261413
I liked that one fan sequel that starts out as Christian love letter to MoR and ends up with Harry as villain leading a cult and trying to destroy the world
It's called Ginny Weasley and the Sealed Intelligence

>>50260614
I would take the Ogg matriarch off of that list.

She was at least as smart as she was wise. Her greatest accomplishment, besides enduring Weatherwax for 70+ years, was ensuring nobody ever found out how smart she was.

>>50260614
I'd say Carrot is pretty smart, given his ability to memorize the entire book of Ankh-Morpork laws in like, a day, and learn the name of basically everyone in the city. He's just uneducated.

Our high-int low-wis character is Leonard da Quirm.

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how bout this guy?

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>>50261596
Why is she making the Chaika face?

>>50259918
>believing his psycho son
To be fair, all his dialogues with Leia about their son point toward him not believing he had any chance of actually bringing him back. He tries anyway because that was the right thing to do for his son, regardless of his life.

>>50263905
>Because it also breeds half the ministry and basically half the greatest wizards in history

I always forget how nonsensical the wizard society by itself is.
Has there ever been an actual reason, in-universe or plotwise, for the insane isolationism? You'd think that at least fucking Muggleborn would keep half a foot in nonmagical society. It's not like some Muggle inventions wouldn't be convenient, wizards use plumbing after all. Not to mention that they live surrounded by nonmagicals 99% of the time, don't they ever talk to fucking anybody?

>>50258296
High luck, not wisdom. He did not intuit a damn thing.

>>50264002
idk about low int, but high wis for sure

>>50260614
Carrot and Ogg are definitely high INT, they're just really good at playing dumb.
>>50260918
I wonder if Rincewind having mediocre INT but high WIS is connected to his incompetence as a wizard

>>50260249
>>50259960
Except that wouldn't answer the question "is she fast?" - that would answer the question "how does she handle?"

You ain't ret-conning yourself out of this, retro-conn man.

>>50264129
Rincewind might be a shit Wizard or even Wizzerd or however he fucked up the spelling on his hat but he freakishly good at languages.

>>50264080
by the end he arguably had a lot of wisdom

>>50264140
hes a mixed bag. he has terrible perception and decision making skills. the one exception is that he can talk his way out of anything, which would be closer to charisma, but I really dont think he could have a high charisma.

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>>50263524
SRD:
>Wisdom describes a character’s willpower, common sense, perception, and intuition. While Intelligence represents one’s ability to analyze information, Wisdom represents being in tune with and aware of one’s surroundings. Wisdom is the most important ability for clerics and druids, and it is also important for paladins and rangers. If you want your character to have acute senses, put a high score in Wisdom. Every creature has a Wisdom score.
>You apply your character’s Wisdom modifier to:
>Will saving throws (for negating the effect of charm person and other spells).
>Heal, Listen, Profession, Sense Motive, Spot, and Survival checks. These are the skills that have Wisdom as their key ability.
>Clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers get bonus spells based on their Wisdom scores. The minimum Wisdom score needed to cast a clerics, druids, paladins, or rangers spell is 10 + the spell’s level.
>Any creature that can perceive its environment in any fashion has at least 1 point of Wisdom. Anything with no Wisdom score is an object, not a creature. Anything without a Wisdom score also has no Charisma score.

>>50264151
> but he freakishly good at languages
You mean knowing how to say "Ow, it hurts" and "Run away" in 150 different languages?

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>>50264151
that's true
I'm not sure if I'd call him unintelligent, he's just a very reasonable, pragmatic guy who likes to play it safe in a world where that just doesn't work.
He's basically like a modern NEET in a caricatural fantasy world.

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>>50258584
> Ask a wizard about the planes and he'll give a speech about their properties or some shit. A druid will give you practical advice like 'Don't fuck around with the plane of rosebuds, its not what you think'

>>50258650
Fermat?

>>50264205
I don't think he has either WIS nor INT - he dumped all his points into PUNCH.

>>50257919
Had a Barbarian in the group with a 5 INT and 18 WIS.

The conclusion was, "He knows to come out of the rain, but has no idea why."

Sadly, the guy playing him wasn't much of a roleplayer or we coulda had some fun with that.

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>>50264196
>still playing 3.5
It's time to move on

>>50260614
>Also maybe Death? Not so much unintelligent there as much as naïve.
Death isn't naive, he's existential ya dolt. Did you miss his whole monologue in Hogfather?

>>50258584
This comic looks like it's based on some kind of Lem story.

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>>50264196
>>50264286

>>50264286
DESU, I've not played any D&D for ten years, but even if they abandoned the mechanic, there's no other stat the fits the bill.

>>50264212
Jesus Christ, I've been wracking my brains trying to figure out why you would cut this comic up like this, only...

It's Loss, isn't it? It's fucking Loss.

>>50264329
because it's not a quality that applies to any stat, it applies to the player

>>50264047
>Has there ever been an actual reason, in-universe or plotwise, for the insane isolationism?
"Why? Blimey, Harry, everyone’d be wantin’ magic solutions to their problems. Nah, we’re best left alone."
This is literally the only thing. Of course you could make tons of arguments about why it would be smart for wizards to stay hidden, but this is literally the only one given. Oh, and persecution doesn't count, because wizards went into hiding when witch trials and the inquisition weren't really a thing anymore, and besides wizards considered those a joke, extremely easy to escape from (which is retarded considering 99% of wizards are harmless without their wand and 50% are harmless with their mouth shut, but w/e).

>>50264353
>tfw you will never experience American Wizards distributing magical items and tools for sale to the public under the ideology of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!"

>>50264047
>Has there ever been an actual reason, in-universe or plotwise, for the insane isolationism?
Of course not. It's just set up in a way to look funny/interesting, regardless of whether it makes sense. For example, pureblood or not there's no reason for wizards not to know how muggles dress. Even recluses like Marvolo Gaunt happened to gaze upon a muggle for time to time. Yet at the quidditch world cup the only half decently dressed ministry employee was Crouch. In spite of having a perfect example of muggle attire in Mr. Roberts (or whatever the camp's owner was called) right there.

The worst part is, I'm not actually convinced that most of the bullshit was handwaved in the name of cool, because often you can find pretty stupid explanations coming up in the following books. Which would point toward Rowling actually not noticing how retarded her world-building is at the time of writing.
Seriously, how can creatives be so brilliant and so retarded at the same time?

>>50264047
>Has there ever been an actual reason, in-universe or plotwise, for the insane isolationism?
Well wizards by and large are basically illiterate. They stop studying anything but magic halfway through primary school. I suppose they just can't cope with muggle society, even mudbloods.

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>>50257919
You might be able to make an argument for Queen Elizabeth, as portrayed by The Crown. She's clearly clever, very aware of her surroundings, but lacks the education, knowledge, and strategic thinking that would constitute a high (INT). On the other hand, I think you could argue her knowledge of the constitution, the court, and tradition as (INT). If anything, she would probably be base INT 10. Thoughts from those who saw the show?

>>50263973
That one's borderline unreadable, though. The characterizations are trash and Ginny's fucking boring

>>50257919
a guy once played 5 or 6 int and 18 wis and basically, the DM fed him information on what to do, but he never knew why or at least, he could never explain why. we treated him as an idiot savant

>>50264489
But in the same time, they must somehow deal with any breach on their secrecy, which require knowledge on muggle society.
I guess they must have a never shown corps of muggle specialists. High wis, I would guess.
Hell, I would hire muggles if I were them. After all, you've got mixed couple here and there.

>>50264465
The quidditch world cup may be a severe case of not giving a shit from many wizards though.
But yeah it's mostly about having fun.

>>50264465
Because they don't sweat the minor details until people start bitching about it.

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>>50264777
>I guess they must have a never shown corps of muggle specialists.
Pic related.
No anon, it's just shit worldbuilding. Just suspend your disbelief and enjoy it, there's no rationalizing it.

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>>50264777

>>50264797
Which is a mistake. Ignore it even when people bitch, if you can't address it appropriately (and you can't, or you wouldn't have made that mistake in the first place) you'll only make it worse.

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>>50264340
Filename says loss.jpg anon.

>>50258860
You what, mate? My Immortal is a modern classic.

INT is smart ideas
WIS is smart decisions
CHA is smart assery

>>50258296
That's high charisma and luck, low intelligence and wisdom.

>>50264572
Seems fair, though maybe she takes Knowledge(Diplomacy) as a feat to balance out generally lower educational standard.

Venetia was best girl why did she have to die ;_;

>>50264708
It's a fucking masterpiece when compared to MoR

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Not so much low INT but pretty high WIS

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>>50264802
>Pic related.
But that's a legitimate question.

>>50264873
Knowledge nobility, certainly. Diplomacy a bit, but she really struggles to get people in line, even when she's very much in the right.

RIP blonde babe.
Long live John Lithgow.

>>50264940
And he worked really well on his CHA.

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>>50264977
Fair enough. Book version then:
>my life's ambition is finding out how airplanes stay up

>>50264353
See, I understand Wizards not Magic in public, that makes sense.
What doesn't make a lick of sense is that the ministry's leading expert on Muggles can't fathom how a fucking lawn mower works or what it's use is. Considering how many muggleborn wizards and witches there are, that just doesn't make any fucking sense.

Then again, their education is complete garbage. There's not a single human wizard in magical Brittain that can construct a building, plan a budget or do basically an-fucking-thing that requires anything beyond basic mathematics. Yet they somehow have Astronomy at school? Yeah, it's magical Astronomy, but the stars still move the same fucking way. Also, the findings of Hubble would probably blow astronomy-dabbling wizard's minds. To this date I want to know what the fuck it is you actually USE Arithmancy for. And how on earth is Magical Theory not a mandatory class at a bloody WIZARD'S SCHOOL. Hell, their History class is so bad, their only real ties to the past are bloody collectible cards that come with chocolate frogs. Voldemort will be completely forgotton in two generations, nobody even really remembers the Grindlewalt anymore.

Ever since the fourth book I've wondered if it's only Hogwarts that is this useless and stuck in the past.

>>50265055
Tomorrow the movie set in America comes out so I guess we can see.

>>50265014
naturally, we are dealing with a 27 year old woman from a sheltered background here. I'm hoping by season 2 we see her get more assertive and more of Nasser's magnificent moustache

lithgow is the man

>>50258409
wtf movie is that?

>>50263147
Good point, but by the time he had to talk out of anything his CHA had already talked him into the trouble in the first place. Dump stats can only go so far before the setting says 'enough.'

>>50264349
A character's common sense and intuition does not necessarily reflect the player's common sense and intuition. Most often, unfortunately.

>>50259960
The "Star Wars Tales" version where the Kessel Run is a kind of Snipe Hunt they use to screw with rookie smugglers is better.

>>50265028
See, literal illiterate. It is basic physics.
I would understand him asking about how do you sail Dirac's sea. But planes flying is something explained in a lot of children books. The fact that Hermione, a muggle born and muggle educated witch does not try to explain it to him makes me think that magic gives you the Downs.

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>>50264286
What is this new age garbage?

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>>50265276
You do know that the world's best aero engineers, physicists, and other relevant specialists cannot agree on exactly what keeps airplanes up, right?

The common explanation you see in children's books and highschool texts is a gross oversimplification that is not actually technically true.

>>50265467
Aang's pretty knowledgable about the world, having been a nomad and all. He was also smart enough to become a master at like 12. He has more instances of high int than wis I'd say

>>50259960
>They've clarified this
You mean like the 'clarification' about the force crystals and synthetic ones that Sith use being red because of their matrix rather than accepting that it's a story and their swords are red so you can tell they're evil?

>>50260242
This too, Han was a bullshitter and wasn't supposed to be a mighty paragon, he's a dickhead smuggler who thinks he's doing a taxi run for a pair of hayseeds.

>>50265508
Dude, don't bother. Even if what you say is true, there's a thousand Wesley quotes one dumber than the other.
Just enjoy the books and suspend your disbelief, the world-building is absolutel unsalvageable.

>>50259297
>You are aware she's in the House for brainy people right?
Which is one of the better pieces of nitpicking yudkowski does in MoR; top 25% isn't that smart and if Ravenclaw doesn't have people like Hermione in it why does it even exist?

>>50264897
We must live in different universes

>>50265467
>High STR: Strong enough to leap dozens of feet into the air, although much of that may be due to his airbending
>High DEX: Can leap on top of balls of AIR and stay aloft and stable while moving at high speeds
>High CON: Has taken hits that would kill an adult man, much less a child
>High INT: Is quite knowledgeable about the world.
>High WIS: Lived with monks most of his life, became a master at 12
>High CHA: Well-liked by pretty much everyone, brokered peace between two opposing factions
Just how minmaxed is this kid?

>>50258575
Samwise is a motherfucking paladin.

Str 10, Dex 13, Con 14, Int 9, Wis 13, Cha 15.

>>50265089
Saw it yesterday actually. The (An?) American school is mentioned but not much more.
Probably not really a spoiler but just in case concerns about maintaining the secret of wizards is a plot point. Government agents may seems competent at that, but aren't really when you think about it. The main character is a disaster in that regard. The wizard international community intervene at some point but the Americans tell them to go fuck themselves.
America has retarded laws about muggles. But it's the twenties, so there is that.
I'm more confused with what they did with elves. I mean it's cool, but they don't act as if they were the same race as before... well after... you get what I mean.

>>50265623
>>50265508
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html

>>50265149
+1

>>50265467
It could be argue that his whole story begin with a WIS failure. And end with a WIS critical success the GM wasn't prepared for.
> Inb4 you don't crit on those tests

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>>50265763
>actually posting links about it
Thank you for your concern, but I know physics like most people know tagelied, and I don't really care to change that.
In my headcanon planes stay up because they go fast enough to use the Earth's curvature to balance gravity.
>what about helicopters
Magic.

>>50258432
It's a lot easier than you'd expect. I'm not talking about getting a girl drunk and waiting for her to pass out either

>>50257969
>>50264002

>>50265149
Texas Chainsaw 3D

>>50265893
I'm a different guy and decided to leave some links behind in case "lift theory in school is bullshit" piqued somebody's interest.

>>50261164
Yeah, apart from a few isolated incidents of him pulling random info from out of nowhere, I'd say his INT isn't too high. His WIS is definitely above average too. Good call, anon. And good taste, this show is great.

>>50264977
The thing is that wizard kids obviously have toys, in fact they show a few off in the books. It should be immediately obvious to a wizard that the purpose of a rubber duck is to give kids something to play with.

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>>50264212

>>50265055
>Hell, their History class is so bad, their only real ties to the past are bloody collectible cards that come with chocolate frogs

Bear in mind that they also somehow managed to miss world war 2. They talk about Grindelwald's muggle allies but are still terrified of the killing curse, don't know what guns are and so apparently managed to miss literally the entire war, from the holocaust to the atomic bombing of two cities.

>>50261413
>Authors opinion is more important than the story
So basically it's the worst kind of "writing" that can exist?

Also the term "rational fic" makes me want to puke. As does that quote up there which completely misses the point of fantasy in general.

>>50266084
>Bear in mind that they also somehow managed to miss world war 2.
This in spite of having been acutely aware of WW1 too, to the point where individual mages were mobilizing to help needy muggles in spite of a specific ministry ban on the subject.

In the end, >>50263802 is correct:
>the setting and plot has more holes than actual material

>>50266141
It's worse than you think.

It's not a fic with a rational edge; it's a complete rewrite, with the names and hints of familiar characters being the only things of any resemblance to the source

>>50266271
My favourite part is one where he outright dismisses importance of souls without any research even though Dumbledore tell him they are important

>>50265701
Aang is the DM's kid brother who the DM has to babysit then the kid decided he wanted to play in his tabletop games as well, so he gave him the minmaxed overpowered character so he wouldn't whine or complain.
He then surprises the whole group by actually being a good team player, an even showing growth and development in both his character and self over the course of the game.

Aang is This Little Bro

>>50266384
I honestly don't get why you'd choose to write a fanfic about something and then change practically everything that makes the setting, including all the characters.

I get that he's a colossal egomaniac and tried to use it as a jumping point to build his own personal cult, but it still seems silly to waste so much time and effort when you could just write something new.

>>50257919
She's the exact opposite: she's persuaded by her dad's retarded conspiracy theories to the point she doesn't percieve actual suspicious behaviour; but follows her faulty perceptions to their logical conclusions every time.

>>50258425
It must have gone in pretty dark places since last time I read it.

>>50266525
Something new would not come with a preexisting fanbase

>>50265055
IIRC, the Leaky Cauldron has an accurate, moving model of the entire Milky Way, just sitting on a shelf.

>>50259818
What the fuck? I've been writing an Animoprhs fanfic where things are exactly the same, but they swear and shit, and have sex, like real child soldiers would.

Don't tell me somebody else is doing the same exact thing.

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>>50258412

I think of intellect as scholarly/academic smarts and wisdom as street smarts or more interactive/interpersonal smarts.

Lawyer, businessman are high wisdom.
Scientist, mathematician is high int.
Doctors today ideally require both.
Politician is charisma followed by wisdom. Not meant in a snide "hur hur dumb politicians" because you do not have to be a bean-counter savant to be a politician. You'd probably be a terrible politician if charisma and wisdom were your dump stat and you were just a technocrat. Maybe a good governing individual but a bad politician.

Absent minded professor is high int low wis, street smart hustler is high wis low int.


Would columbo work? I haven't ever watched it.

>>50264235
He's got an insane Will Save though.

>>50260918
>Wizards are characteristically High Int low Wis

The only high thing that wizards have is high fat
also the high energy magic building

>>50265701
>High STR
Aang has very low STR, but he can in most cases substitute it with his DEX score due to his proficiency in Air and Water bending.

>>50265948
you know he was a white guy originally right?

>>50267887
>good governing individual but a bad politician
Oxymoron.

>>50267887
columbo just plays dumb

i would recommend watching at least a few of them

>>50263704
Cedric was in Hufflepuff and he was absurdly gifted.

Which raises a question.

>>50265014
Well he's got around another 12 years in the shows timeline.

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>>50257919
>Ravenclaw common room has you answer a riddle that requires you to be both intelligent and/or wise to open it
>Low WIS

Yeah nah.

CHA was her dump stat

>>50264572
>Thoughts from those who saw the show?
Why did they get a downsie to play a woman who was actually quite beautiful?

>>50269343
Churchill.

>>50269343
I'm hoping for the world's sake Trump will turn out like that.

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>>50264572
I've not seen the Crown, but the real Queen Elizabeth is a pretty smart person I reckon.

She's been prominently in the public eye of the world since the 1950's and in all that time her only real fuck up was when she apparently didn't show enough emotion when Diana died.

I can't really think of many other people who have been in such a position for so long and had fewer scandals than HRH Queen Elizabeth II

I'm not a royalist by any means, but we could certainly do a hell of a lot worse

>>50260108

I didn't find what he said funny but your post gave me a chuckle.

>>50264235
His physical stats are immesurable. His mental stats are average around the board.

>>50264572
Oh she's got plenty high int, it's just all her knowledge skills are in matters of the capitol, horses, and fixing cars. Remember the part where she's about to dress Churchill down for his inaction in the face of the fog, the sun clears up, and she immediately changes tactics and throws him off his game.

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>>50257919

high INT/low WIS = Don Quixote
low INT/high WIS = Sancho Panza

>>50259462
He aced Intermediate Light.

>>50258620
Angry doggos everywhere.

>>50261413
>faith to source material
Who wants Harry Potter fanfiction that's faithful to the source material? The Harry Potter series is a mess.

>>50271266
It's still better than most of it's fanfiction
MoR included

>>50258704
why would a wizard need a shotgun? he could just cast fireball into a colander.

>>50259297
It's really not. By the third book, the plot-holes were so huge that children could point them out. The worldbuilding gets worse and worse as more elements are added, and the characterization goes completely pants-on-head retarded by the fifth book. MoR is just verbose, preachy, and a bit ham-fisted at times.

>>50271419
That wouldn't work very well. I get what you're trying to do, but the explosion isn't nearly enclosed enough for it to work.

>>50271459
what about some sort of fully enclosing hand colander? like, a hollow metal ball with holes in it that clasps around the wrist

>>50261132
>>50263630
>>50263704
>>50269589
It's just the four humours, with the caveat that nuggleborns get sorted into the house of their second most abundant humour if their first is yellow bile.

>>50257919
Luna has a lot of factual knowledge, it just isn't believed by other people. That's definitely high Int.

Sancho Panza is probably the definitive high Wis/low Int character but really any sort of "folksy" wise man type character fits the bill.

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>>50272034
That's low int/high cha

>>50257919
I would say shes the opisiote.
Wernt all her conspiricy theorys correct.

>>50272059
But things like the rasenshuriken, the way creative way he used shadow clones and other jutsus would suggest wis to me. Not that he's not got exceptionally high charisma.

>>50269715

Elizabeth is a model of modern royal heads of state worldwide; managing to represent the UK in all its affairs sufficiently well that she never fucks up and cops blame for anything, and managing to actively help in times of trouble. Her addresses are very useful too, since between her and her writing team she manages to involve herself in only the issues that are of real importance to the stability of the nation, but never in such a way to draw attention.

It is the only reason the extraordinary power the Crown has has never once really been questioned. Compare her to other royals, even in the same line, and their dumb interventions. Charles's political bullshit, for example.

I am 90% sure Queen Elizabeth is the reason Australia is not a Republic. She has done so good a job that it actually has a major positive effect on the skill and conduct of Australian Governors-General, and one of the big arguments for not going fully independent is how well the arrangement is working.

And the fact that Charles is next in line is a genuine argument used for a Republic. Australian would probably accept William since he has proven able to keep his head down and get on with the duties of royalty, and Harry is quite popular since he's a cool dude and built up a solid military reputation before a shitty rag outed his deployment.

It is endlessly entertaining to me that Elizabeth is Australia's best argument against a Republic, and Charles is our best argument for it.

A carpenter. Its not very complicated, it takes practice and experience. You COULD make it complicated, but it has a low skill floor and average skill ceiling.

>>50260953
I don't buy it. I think Karl is an act. I think he's brilliant, just the British version of Larry the Cable Guy.

>>50264199
In "interesting times" he learns an entire coastal dialect of fantasy China in a couple of hours while running away from soldiers and i'm pretty sure he does something similar in the book with Australia

>>50272068
She thought Sirius Black was actually a musician named Stubby Boardman or something, and a bunch of other shit that felt deliberately absurd. But she was also right about a bunch of things, like the Nargles that helped her find Harry on the train.

>>50272098
creativity isn't governed by a stat

>>50261485
>techno-rapture singularity worshipper
Um no? I've little love for him or his, but that's not what they're about. They're about trying to stop the "evil super-intelligence" Bad End to the game of evolution.

>>50261514
No, people are saying she's high WIS low INT. You're obviously low on both.

>>50263995
Carrot is high everything except writing ability.

>>50263995
Those are examples of Wis, though, as given in D&D.

>>50272413
I'm curious if have this opinion after seeing An Idiot Abroad.
Although it's something I can think about while watching.

>>50273174
Knowledge/memory is INT, hence why knowing and recalling facts from various fields are INT skills. WIS is awareness, hence it governing things such as perception and insight

>>50271266
If I'm reading a fanfic based in a setting, even with "x" changes, I don't want a bunch of other changes for no reason, like Dumbledore being a drooling imbecile for example.

>>50271459
Not that anon, and I hate to disrail the thread, but HP has fine plotting and characterization.
The worldbuilding is as shallow, senseless, and enjoyable as the Bewitched series; which is to say, it may not be deep, but if you accept the premise, it's a lot of fun.

>>50261279
Whoever wrote that story must have been a neckbeards with absolutely no understanding of human interaction who wondered why Luke and Ben "looked so impressed" at a statement that didn't make sense and decided to try and fix it.

Kinda embarrassing really. That is the sort of thing you expect to read about in a 10-year old's fan fiction, not something you buy for actual money.

>>50271419
Why would a mathematician ever need a calculator? Can't he do all the math on his own?

>>50257919
Wisdom in D&D has nothing to do with intelligence. It's your senses, to the most abstract parameters.

INT is what you measure on an IQ test, WIS is rationality.

>>50274575
IQ tests measure rationality

>>50271212
Right here.

>>50270407
You made that exact post with that exact image last thread.

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>>50257919
Sokka is high Int, low Wis
Katara is high Wis, low Int

>>50264129
Nah. The canon explanation is that the spell that shoved its way into his brain as an apprentice took up all of his spell slots from being so huge.

>>50263630
They might be jackasses , but they are still people.
I'm also going to point out that thinking too much about the lore makes you realize that Wizards used to spam death spells on muggles so much that an entire race of nigh omnipotent demigods with mind wiping powers couldn't completely erase the idea that Abrakadabra was a default magic spell from muggles.
Why is Slytherin still around? It's because they're all fucking Wizards with no sense of right and wrong. Surely you must realize that by now.
>>50263704
Hufflepuffs are just hard workers. Sure they might not be brave, conniving, or eccentric geniuses but when there is a job to be done they will do it to their utmost. It's actually really surprising that Hufflepuff doesn't dominate more in sports at the very least.
Consider this, Michael Jordan technically qualifies to be a Hufflepuff since he got where he did from practice and had inferior talent compared to his brother.

>>50275768
Hufflepuff is also kind, which is a quality you kinda want to foster for a succesful and generally comfy society.

>>50275604
What's high wis about young Katara?

>>50258412
TG will say a thing, but the skills in DnD say another, and you think another.

I personally don't think it's that useful. It's a lot like alignment to me; it feels vestigial, shriveled and useless.

But hey, I'm wrong about everything, don't listen to me.

>>50258477
Wisdom is the ability to contextualize what you know.

>>50261447
there is no value judgment in saying that shows a lack of empathy - all it says is that he doesn't understand why she wants to get married. The wisdom of his position is nonexistant.

>>50261646
this is just a misinterpretation. But does exhibit regular WIS. like a 10 or an 11.

>>50272059
>>50272034
Nah. He learns obscenely fast when he applies himself. He took something to have some other stat substitute as his cha at later levels.
He has high int, low cha, and his wisdom is all over the fucking place.

>>50275793
Wizards don't really seem to put much emphasis upon kindness as a virtue.

>>50269669
If anything he was a good politician and bad at government. The average politician can't survive the amount of personal failure Churchill did.

>>50275808
Wisdom is seeing and hearing good

>>50275852
>He took something to have some other stat substitute as his cha at later levels.
Seems to me he took something to have his cha substitute for int. He's just a troublemaking retard before he starts properly training

>>50275973
Just about everyone that knew or met him absolutely hated the shit out of him until the chunnin exams and that had more to do with everyone suddenly realizing he's strong in a society where that's prized.

The troublemaking retard part was a personality problem more than anything and the fact that his seal actively fucks up his ability to do jutsu severely increased the difficulty level when it came to the things he was actually bad at. Even then he's clearly been a better ninja (when utilizing trickery) than Donut Steel DMPC Sasuke until his lack of wisdom bites him in the ass.

>>50276050
>Just about everyone that knew or met him absolutely hated the shit out of him
Not everyone, and he was hated explicitely because of the ninetails. It's not like people found him unpleasant, strictly speaking. People who actually talked to him liked him. Like the teacher, or the ramen guy, or hinata.

The troublemaking retard part was him rebelling against people treating unfairly for no fault of his own. He stops as soon as people stop being absolute and utter unreasonable cunts to him.

>>50275852
>Wizards don't really seem to put much emphasis upon kindness as a virtue.
making Hufflepuff all the more important. All Hufflepuff's joined in the defense of Hogwarts, even though they aren't reckless or brave like the Gryffendores. To prevent stuff like Voldemort and Grindelwald, the virtues of Hufflepuff - Which Dumbledore displayed above those of Gryffendore - must be upheld.

>>50276114
He was still a brat that couldn't get along with people early on even if just about everything you said is true. He gets better simply due to growing up. Sakura was always a bitch and all but if Naruto had the cha he displayed later in life as a kid he'd have managed to get somewhere.
While typing it's occurred to me that talk no jutsu is simply a result of having so much int that he could spam diplomacy ranks.

>>50258412
I've always seen wisdom as a divine or supernatural gift, the sixth sense. You can learn things with intelligence and commit them to memory, but wisdom is something you have or don't have and not even experiences are guaranteed to give you wisdom. Think of it less as a stat and more of a sense or even a combination of all your senses acting in harmony with a supernatural glue binding them together with the added benefit of simply "knowing" when something is or isn't.

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>>50275943
Dexterity is jump good.

>>50258412
That is what it would be in reality, but D&D is retarded

>>50276217
But Jumping is based on Strength.

>>50259672
No it's a plane of exclamation marks and semicolons.

>>50272413
Nah I dunno why but I believe Merchant and Gervais when they say he really is like that. The early stuff they did had a proper feel of them just shoving this bloke on the telly because he's a moron who they've somehow managed to convince the network is worth it.

I think he plays on it a bit now though

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>>50264977
THAT FUCKING DUCK.

>>50264465
>>50264823

Only massive autists genuinely think that consistency and plotholes in YA novels are anything to get upset about, and the authors, sensibly, just write what's fun and cool.

The only "Problem" here is the cancerous fandom that pops up around everything, full of people who want to one-up each other on pointless trivia knowledge.

It's the same with star wars or lord of the rings.

If you're writing for grownups, then yeah, sure, go the extra mile and shoot for internal consistency and make everything sensible, but come onnnn.

Spend some of the effort on growing up instead of clinging to the thing you loved before your balls dropped.

>>50276210
Why the fuck would you invent your own definition of a common word?

Wisdom is decent judgement coupled with knowledge and experience.

>>50276716
Because the common definition is not how D&D uses it

>>50260953
They beat him down no matter what on the radio show or the podcast, but Karl actually says quite a few logical or profound statements, hes just bad wording them because hes got a bad grasp on language.

>>50272098
that's more due to the shadow clone hivemind letting him learn at a vastly accelerated rate

>>50258804

So you're an autismo

>>50259462
....there was a book?

>>50265701
It's called marry sue.

>>50265701
Its not minmaxed if there are no dump stats

>>50264212
I still don't get what you've done to this image

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>>50257919
To be honest, she looks very good in a long red dress (image related is from the Magical Beasts and Where to Find Them premiere)

But I imagine her character being decent Int (11-ish) with collosal Wis (like 20+), everything else is pretty abysmal, though her Cha isn't awful.

>>50278709
Evanna Lynch looked cuter when she was starring in OotP and HBP. Literally real-life "waifu" material.