Warhammer 40k General

First for Dark Eldar. Best initiative.

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What the fuck is this and why should I buy it

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>>50253909
>cristmas
This thread is now part of the great Empire of the Tau.

>>50253933
I really like this first post-claiming initiative you've got going, DEbro. Represent.

>>50253945
An expansion for different types of games, good shit to try new stuff and plan campaigns.

>>50253945
Looks like Planetstrike 2.0

>>50253945
It's a 7th edition update for all the fortifications, and all of the ancient planet rules, like death world's and hive cities

>>50253945
>>50253972
>>50253976
It's Planetstrike, Stronghold Assault and Cities of Death updated for 7th and rolled into one book, pretty interesting if you ask em but I'm a narrative campaign faggot.

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So come december I'll get the DW Battleforce, half of the Overkill box and a Corvus.

I'm already looking for that commander from Death masque.

What else do i need?

>>50253959
What are you on about?

>>50254037

I see the Tau one has most of the components for the Optimized Stealth Cadre.

>>50254037
>that AdMech box
Fuck me, that's nothing. Hardly worth it.

What is the most powerful psychic discipline?

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>>50254037
>No Orks

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>>50254148
In general?

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>No Necrons

>>50254153
They picked the four best-selling armies :^)

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25 points short because of a bug but the command squad has jump packs.

captain with the command squad
librarian dreadnought in a drop pods
two tactical squads in razorbacks which are equipped with las and plasma. the tacticals have a heavy flamer in one squad while the other has plasma and combi-plasma.
10 man assault squad combat squadding, one goes for the vehicles with two melta guns while the other goes after the infantry with the combi-flamer and eviscerator. if the combi-flamer squad survives long enough to charge it will go after vehicles.
An assault squad with jump packs, power lance and two flamers to hunt down small squads.
Fianlly a fast predator with las and autocannons and three bikes with two grav guns.

Drop pod comes in turn one and everyone rushes the enemy, my HQs come in turn two witht he captain and his squad deep striking via the relic and the librarian in the drop pod.
Should I switch the combi-flamer for a hand flamer?
Should I switch the plasma tacticals for grav tacticals knowing they will have to move before they shoot?

What Epub reader for Windows? They all seem like such shit, why did we switch away from PDFs?

>>50254153
Look on the bright side. Maybe that means Orks are getting a new book with a bunch of new minis next year.

If the tyranids eat enough Tau, would they be able to build their technology?

>>50254210
No, they don't work that way.

Death from the Skies is official errata appendixed to the BRB, but how many of you completely ignore it when playing your fliers?

>>50254146

The electro priests killed it for me. Is shit. Nothing compared to the other boxes.

Could orks domesticate tyranids if all of them believe so?

>>50254184
Readium
They're the future and pdfs are stale and clunky, plus require a conversion job since the source is epub

>>50254214
I kinda wanna see Tauranids now. Flesh eating hive mind weaboo commies in spes

>>50254153
>implying people play Orks

>>50254231
>If they all believe so

Orkz can literally do ANYTHING if they all believe so.

>>50254210
You're confusing Nids and Kroot.

>>50254231
>>50254243
No, it's a shitty meme.

>>50254231

They already are to a degree.

The Ork codex mentions one WAAAGH! was spreading Tyranids to carry the good fight along with them to whatever world they go.

Could the orks loot regular Necron soldiers to make them into orky weapons?

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>>50253933

You have done well, Kabalite.

>>50254037
That AdMech box is extremely disappointing.

If tyranids are really psychic creatures, couldn't the Empire just clone an army of blanks to combat them?

>>50254297
Assuming that they somehow manage to stop a necron from just fucking off to the tomb ships then the corpse self destructs so nope.

>>50254143
It has my entire preexisting purchase list in it, likely for less than individually even with an extra Keel. Feels good. Do we have official prices?

If enough orks are sent to the Warp and all think the Warp does not exist, what would happen?

>>50254345
Entire 40k universe explodes in one final WAAAGH!

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>>50254325

>the Empire

>>50254325
That's like wanting to clone an army of blanks and shoving them into warp portals to combat the chaos gods.

The Hive Mind is too strong a presence.

>>50254037

The AdMech one looks pretty good.

>>50254289
Edition/Page/Quotation

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>>50254146
>28 Citadel Miniatures
>26 Citadel Miniatures
>17 Citadel Miniatures
>27 Citadel Miniatures

One of these things is not like the other.

>>50254345
If da warp doz not exist, den how can you send all da boyz there?
Think about it ya dumb git.

>>50254325
>>50254363
This never fails to trigger me.

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>>50254325
>The empire

>>50254383
Most of the others are infantry. There's 6 non infantry size models in he Ad Mech box.

>>50254363
Well, it is the Empire of Mankind, but I'm sure the Tau have the tech to clone people too. They just need enough samples of blanks from other species, give them enough weapons, and voilá.

>>50254337
100 GBP
140 USD

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>>50254325
>Empire

>>50253933
orkbro here, not even mad at your initiative, at least we get FIRED UP!!!!!!!!

>>50254325
""""""Empire""""""

>>50254325
>Cloning blanks

It doesn't work like that

>>50254405
There is a lot of potential in the Ork codex. GW finally decided to give them rules that let them strike out of turn with buffed melee attacks. Now if only they allowed the Orks to do this to their opponents instead.

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>>50254325
>the empire
>TFW it's been over a year since WHFB was murdered

>>50254325
Does this make Luke Skywalker a heretic?

>>50254399
True, and I was even excited for the deal until I saw the electro priests (which I've never played/seen played, but I think are ugly models)

Oh well, not the end of the world that they released something I won't have to spend money on

>>50254435
>>50254403
>>50254398
>>50254387
>>50254363

What's the matter with the Empire?

>>50254461
well he did oppose the emperor

>>50254403
>>50254435
>>50254398
>>50254363
Explain

>>50254482
>guaranteed replies.jpg
Epick, simply epick :^)

>>50254482
its the Imperium, not the Empire

>>50254482
Its called the imperium or "Big E's Wacky Musclemen Squad". Calling it the empire is heresy

>>50254482
>>50254489
I'm feeling charitable, next round of (you)s is on me.

>>50254493
Yeah, but why?

>>50254500
Ups. My bad.

>>50254037
>Electro Priests

No fuck you

>>50254500
whats the difference?

>>50254510
Tell me you fag

>>50254536
144p bait

>>50254536
different spellings. like how colour and color are the same thing, but different. color and imperium are the more proper way to do it, but if you want to call it empire i wont judge you

>>50254536
Not much but "the empire" used to refer to the warhammer fantasy empire.

Warhammer fantasy was murdered and replaced, several people are still sore over it.

>>50254543
Are you getting triggered because of the Empire is whfb? It doesn't exist anymore, they're card freeguild people now. Imperium literally means empire.

>>50254536

One is "a human (white) supremacist force" and the other is...
never mind

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>>50254377

7th Edition Codex.

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(Human Auxiliary)
Guard 1- Lazgun, Frag. Grenades, CCW
Guard 2- Lazgun, Frag. Grenades, CCW
Guard 3- Lazgun, Frag. Grenades, CCW
Guard 4- Lazgun, Frag. Grenades, CCW
Guard 5- Lazgun, Frag. Grenades, CCW
Auxiliary Sgt.- Pulse Rifle, Frag. Grenades, CCW [Weapon-Specialist, Eagle Eye]
(Pathfinder Team)
Pathfinder 1- Pulse Carbine, Photon Grenade, Markerlight
Pathfinder 2- Pulse Carbine, Photon Grenade, Markerlight
Pathfinder 3- Pulse Carbine, Photon Grenade, Markerlight
Pathfinder Sgt.- Pulse Carbine, Photon Grenade, Markerlight [Leader]
(Stealth Team)
Suit 1- Burst Cannon, Blacksun Filter [Guerilla Specialist, Preferred Enemy]
Suit 2- Burst Cannon, Blacksun Filter
Suit 3- Fusion Blaster, Blacksun Filter, Vectored Retro-Thrusters [Indomitable Specialist, Feel No Pain]

This is my new, fluffy kill team. I'm pretty excited about it

>>50254563
Never played WHFB actually. It just looked like you were drawing out the empire thing for replies

Kinda want to play assault Tau. Toying with the idea of running a Fusion Blade/Iridium commander with Vespids for I6 Hit & Run.
What would the basic surprise factor be on this?

>>50254563
>Imperium literally means empire.

Actually fucking triggered now.
Imperium means "absolute power" or "one who rules above kings" you double nigger, it is generally invested in a single person. Charlemagne ruled with imperium.

Imperium in 40k means empire but that's because Gothic is a retarded language

If all the orks are made to believe that the Emperor of Mankind has been restored to his full potential, would then he actually coma back to full strenght? If so, why hasn't the Imperium tried that already?

>>50254569
goddamn orks. this is almost as good as that ork boss that went back in time to kill his young self so he could have 2 of his favorite guns.

>>50254551
>colour and color are the same thing, but different
One is British, one is American. Drop this meme.
I'm a Brit but I always write it as color here to avoid triggering fags like you

>>50254563
No it doesn't, GW doesn't give a shit about the Latin origin of the word, Imperium is a stylized term. There are only two Empires worth a shit in 40k, one of them is the collapsed Eldar Empire and the other is the Tau Empire. Neither of them have emperors

>>50254536
Tau Empire
Imperium of Man

>>50254592
>Double Nigger
What does it mean

>>50254595
they would have to paint the emperor green for the orks to believe that, and that would be heresy.

>>50254586
What's the stats on these, again?

>>50254609
>being this new

To buy kill team or not? That is the question

>>50254609
It means that not only are you a nigger, but you are a nigger nigger. It's a way of emphasizing your niggerdly ways.

>>50254609

Double Nigger, noun. "200% nigger. The niggest."

>>50254621
Shit is double nigger an actual term? I was just trying to meme

>>50254599

It's up there, along with the Big Mek who built the Shokk Attack Gun out of a Space Hulk or the Ork Loota boss who crashed a moon into a planet just to built a fleet of rocks from the debris.

>>50254037
This news has made me come to a decision.

A decision to buy a Skitarii box and not touch that shitbag.

Fuck you GW for trying to force the merch you can't sell by packaging it into a saving bundle.

>>50254184
just use a tablet to read the epubs that's the best way

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>>50254642
It's a natural meme inherent in the fabric of all things. It's no surprise you came up with it with no prior knowledge, newfriend.

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>>50254620
Fast Attack, 72 pts base.

>>50254605
Tau Imperium
Empire of Man

>>50254667

He didn't come up with it, I posted that. Fucking anons.

/tg/ should have thread-specific IDs

>>50254570
>Lazgun

>>50254674
Doesn't seem that threatening. What about a Fusion Blade commander?

When I was a kid I always accidentally called the imperial guard the empire

If orks believe red is the fastest colour, why don't the Tau have some of them on their ships and paint them red? They would help ther slower-than-light ships across the galaxy.

>>50254600
are you implying that color and colour dont mean the same thing? i literally said they are the same thing just spelled differently.

If orks were not as murder-happy they could be even more powerful than the Old Ones. Just imagine the potentia...

>>50254710
>Orks believe Red wuns go fastah
>This is why Farsight is fast enough for melee

>>50254536
Roman gothic flavor is what sets us apart, anon. You must respect your heritage.

>>50254697
It shouldn't.

>>50254704
I play a Fusion Blades Commander, a bunch of Crisis and a Riptide for support. I assault with all of them as often as I can. It's great fun.
You kind of have to build the suits towards it though (giving the Crisis flamers or only one gun) but it's a refreshing change from the usual bullshit meta both for my any my opponent. I LOVE the Fusion Blades.

>>50254722
I'm implying there is no """"""correct"""""" spelling because both are correct. It's a regional thing.

>>50254609
It means that you're not a regular nigger you are an ADVANCED nigger
you know Nigger S8 T8 N8 with 3A and rending n'shit

>>50254551
>color and imperium are the more proper way to do it

GW's British, matey, it's colour round here.

40k dwarfs when

>>50254789
Weren't the Squats eaten by the Tyranids?

>>50254789
two decades ago.

>>50254800
No, they're around. Mentioned in the main rule book I think.

Also Demiurg.

>>50254800
The Squats never existed as far as GW is concerned and they are right to do so since Squats are goofy as fuck.

>>50254814
The Demiurg ARE the race mentioend in the BRB. Don't count on them ever being playable outside of Tau auxiliaries though, and we all know a Tau auxiliary codex will never happen when they can just put out another big suit.

>>50254827
No, no. They mention squats as an Abhuman species too, since 6th edition.

>>50254704
With Iridium?
BS5, WS4, S5(8), T5, W4, I3, Sv 2+, Ld10 independent character
On the charge you will hit with 5 attacks, S8 AP1 Armourbane Blind
at initiative

>>50254789
Hopefully never.

Is Da Supa Cybork worth its points?

>>50254037
What do they thought when the did the admech box? What do they wanted to accomplished combining two fast units and three slow units? A little too half assed if you ask me.

>>50254859
With Vespids he's probably not the worst assault force in the game, but is definitely very good for Tau.

What if we put Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfes story on the 40k universe? Snow White could be Isha hiding from the evil queen Slanesh, the Squats could be the dwarfes, and the charming prince could be Nurgle.

>>50254914
>the Nurgle loves Isha meme
Just stop. You and the other newfriends need to leave.

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What are the odds inquisition gets updated with new shit for the black crusade jamboree in the upcoming year? Ive been wanting to get back to it ever since 5th ed gk killed my mostly storm trooper gk army and I don't wanna make any investments when the 7th ed gk book annihilated half the rules and wargear that it shared with the inquisition from 5th ed (psybolt ammo etc). Ive already been burned once when I converted an inquisitor valeria for dat graviton beamer then she got removed like so much kebab for the sin of having no model.

Hell they don't even sell daemon hosts anymore so with their no model no rules policy I don't see that going forward.

>>50254542
IoM not EoM, friends.

>>50254930
What's the mater? We all know love can bloom in this setting.

>>50254937
But they didn't kill it.
You can make stormtroopers using the Build-a-Guardsman that is the Acolyte or just use ACTUAL STORMTROOPERS with Militarum Tempestus.
Ally in GKs.
You have a point with Valeria and that does suck but just ask a bro if he doesn't mind you using her 5th edition rules converted to 7th. Otherwise counts-as. Got pics?

Daemonhosts are shitty and not fluffy when combined with GK. If you really want them you can convert them up anyway.

>>50254880
Not really.
Fnp is delivered to a full unit by a painboy, relentless offers nothing to assault weapons and EW means little to T5 warbosses.

Maybe if your only HQ choice is a Big mek with a Shokk attack gun.

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>>50254937
If the =][= ever gets updated, Lord Inquisitors, if they're a thing because I haven't looked at the =][= Codex in a long time and can't remember if they're a thing, should be able to take Red Hunters as bodyguards.

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Should I play Necrons, DEldar, or Genestealer cults if I want to mobility-troll people?

>>50254996
Does literally nobody use the allies matrix?
Also Lord Inquisitors do not exist statwise anymore (have they at all since 3rd?) But there's nothing stopping you from Forging the Narrative.

Also >>50254937 a new update is not likely but with 8th around the corner they may be given an update to align with the new rules next year.

>>50255000
I told you last time you git, GSC is the best way.

>>50254993
Does a painboy not increase the FnP?

>>50254037
Anyone know how these will be priced?

>>50255041
No.
Only all the other factions get to stack effects.

>>50255034
Yeah I'm pretty sure Ima do GSC. I always loved Tyranids thematically, but their codex has been shit since 4th ed.

>>50255000
Necrons, also checked

>>50255052
>>50254402

>>50253909

Building some Reavers for my DELDAR army and need some advice

What weapons should I put on them, specifically for kill team and small points battles.

I was thinking Heat lance but not sure

>>50255052
~170$ i belive

>>50255090
Caltrops, always caltrops.

Weigh carefully if you won't be jinking literally every turn because it really diminishes the value of special weapons. A heat lance is your best choice if you do take them but I often leave it at home. Caltrops are all you need.

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>>50255014
Itd be nice
>>50254980
I could never stomach the bs3 (and pseudo stormtroopers are too expensive).

I never actually used daemonhosts, just sayin, seems like a lot of options and units don't have models anymore.

I totally got some new tempestus cause I love the models but not being able to start the inquisitor in their transports hurts (like no valkyries) .

Lemme hunt for an old photo of that inquisitor...

>>50255105

So one Caltrops and the rest blasters with maybe one heat lance?

>>50255173
If by blasters you mean stock then yes. Maybe one lance if you can drop the points on it but if not just stick with one caltrops. If you do take a ranged weapon put it on a different model to your caltrops guy.

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>>50255071
Well fuck

>>50255090
2nd for clatrops always. The shooting options are both sometimes useful. Heatlances are really great in melta range and the blaster is more all purpose and less reliant on being with in 9 inches. You could always magnetize the weapons or just not glue them until you've tried the different loadouts.

>>50255171
Oh you're also that guy who posted those Scions? Cool.

Do remember FW said Inquisition can use a FA slot to take a Valk and warbands can get one as a DT too, so if your inquisitor really needs to arrive by air you can give him his own personal transport or (and this is what I've done in the past) buy a Valk, put him in it, and rent out the Razorback/LR of the warband he drags with him to some allies on the ground. Of course they can't start in it anymore but they can still embark turn 1 and I'll be honest, I just wanted something durable to ride Repentia in

>>50255295

I was thinking about this but I dont currently have the tools or know where to find the magnets

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>>50255319
Oo true. Gotta say painting valkyries in this scheme is pretty easy. Maybe I'll grab two more, one for more scions and one for the inquisitor. Id have to use some henchmen. I love these that someone posted. Expensive to make though. Maybe environment upgrade cadians.

>>50255361
Maybe just not glue them until you decide. I used the fins with the skulls attached to blade to mark all of my special weapon/clatrop models so people don't have to even see the underside to figure out which one is special

>>50255411
>those kitbashes
>mention of the hostile environment Cadians
My dick is uncomfortably hard right now. That's it I'm starting a Guard army. The Armored Claw with its cheap Chimera was tempting me anyway.

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>>50255451
>>50255319
>>starting guard army on whim
Hell yeah hell heah

Crappy old photo but here she is. Sadly I changed her gun from the crazy bashed pistol I had to the counts as needle pistol after valeria died. Ill have to find her and give her a touch up now that I can paint.

She's got a tau shield generator as the eldar rune invuln save, deldar dagger, and giant murder fist as cc necron box install kill.

>>50255524
what's that model made of?

Could someone send me a link to some chinese recasts? I heard CCON is one of the best atm.

>>50255524
I can't help myself man. Oh well at least I'll enjoy it.
>pic
That's pretty good Anon, what did you use as a base for her?

>>50255576
Look harder.

>>50255557
>>50255587
Thanks - the resin deldar archon from 5e, actually. The one with the soul trap.

Can someone do the math and see the average # of wounds on a model hit by Harlequin's Mirror of Minds from a shadowseer with a Mask of Secrets?

>>50255652

69 420

>>50255666
Trips don't lie

>>50255639
>the one model that kickstarted my interest in the faction, only to go OOP around when I had the money to actually do an army
REEEEEEEEE
Still that's some pretty awesome work there. It'd have been interesting to see what her graviton beamer looked like but it's cool enough as is. Where is that head from? I don't recognize it unless it's from the Archon you mentioned and we're thinking of different models. I dunno I'm tired.

>>50255411
What legs are those?

>>50255666
grey knights trips confirm

>>50255715
GSC neophytes, the full expensive box not the cadians with heads from that new sprue

hey, i want to get into 40k, and i like the imperial guard. i was checking around ebay and amazon and found this. it's a ton of random troops for like $100. i haven't painted minis before but i have painted models and i'm fairly confident i could do them, so is it a decent deal?

thanks, and if you want to see the actual stuff it's below (removed dot before com to avoid spam detector)

http://www.ebay com/itm/Warhammer-40k-large-lot-of-Astra-Militarum-Imperial-Guard-figures-bits/332024566638?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3D1c69df98c36347129d9d54383a5dcae1%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D28%26sd%3D272418378035

>>50255821
That picture quality is ass, a lot of the models are in pieces or poor condition and would require stripping, and a lot of them aren't even Guardsmen.

But for $100? I'd roll the dice. There's a bunch of metal shit in there including at least one Kasrkin.

>>50255711
Head was third party - some set of female soldier heads. I considered wyches but they looked too deldary on the archon body.

I think originally Id used a combo of tau and imperial bits for her pistol...

Dude, sucks. The new archon didn't have the swag. Too bad they replaced him... that archon and those incubi were hot hot hot.

>>50255652
Assuming Ld10:
3/6 - 6/6 chance to wound
1/6 - 5/6 chance to wound
1/6 - 4/6 chance to wound
1/6 - 3/6 chance to wound

any given roll - 30/36 (5/6) [2+] chance to wound
Chance to get x wounds:
1 - 83.33%
2 - 69.44%
3 - 57.87%
4 - 48.22%
5 - 40.18%
6 - 33.49%
7 - 27.91%
8 - 23.26%
9 - 19.38%
10 - 16.15%
11 - 13.46%
12 - 11.22%
13 - 9.35%

>>50255860
thanks for the advice, i think i'll pick it up.

i'll report back with painted minis if i do

>>50255652
If the chance of wounding is X, and the expected number of wounds is W, the relation between X and W follows: W = X (1 + W) meaning that W = X / (1 - X).

Chances of scoring a single wound versus leadership (subtract 2 for effects of Mask of Secrets if necessary):

LD 10: 1 - (15/36), expected wounds 21/15 = 1.4
LD 9: 1 - (10/36), expected wounds 26/10 = 2.6
LD 8: 1 - (6/36), expected wounds 30/6 = 5
LD 7: 1 - (3/36), expected wounds 33/3 = 11
LD 6: 1 - (1/36), expected wounds 25/1 = 35
LD 5: 1, expected wounds infinity

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Do some folks around here still write their own Chapters / Warbands? I've been spending my free time at work cobbling together a Nurglite Warband and a Death World Plague Cult to go along with it for my army, and I was wondering if anybody wanted to share their own written lore.

>>50255861
>3rd party

Ah. Explains why it looks vaguely familiar but I couldn't put it to any GW model. I'll look for it at some point and see if I can turn it up.

>The new archon didn't have the swag. Too bad they replaced him... that archon and those incubi were hot hot hot.

Sounds like you have some pretty great taste man.

>>50255821
>>50255860
Main problem is they won't look uniform, I'm seeing the current plastic Cadians, old metal Cadians and metal Cathacans.
I'd rather grab a couple of start collecting boxes myself.

>>50255953
actually precisely 1 start collecting box considering the price is $85 and the cheapest you're gonna find it for is still ~$70

>>50255927
>Do I
Yeah. Every army I own.
>Share it
N-nah. I'm shit at writing anyway.

>>50255953
It's not that excellent for a beginner who actually wants to play the game, but it's a good deal for bitz hoarders or OOP model hunters. I'd buy it just to have (and resell, if they don't catch my fancy) all that beautiful metal. But then I love the old Cadians.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, and keep in mind I haven't played since 5th edition. I could take as many lords of war that I could fit into an unbound army list?

>>50256004
good luck finding people to play with

>>50255864
>>50255924
>think that this would be good against riptides and stormsurges
>remember invulnerable saves and feel no pain rolls

lol

>>50256004
You could, but
1) Nobody would play you if you're that much of a faggot,
2) LoW are mostly shit for their points anyway, except for a few outliers like Knights, the Wraithknight and the Stormsurge (which all can be spammed in a battleforged army with anyway), and
3) You would probably lose by objectives or to the bullshit formations that run the meta.

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>>50256004

>>50255984
Well, I guess I can post a bit about mine. Prides Carcass was a warband born from that wonderful Cursed Founding, a small nobody chapter of unknown origin called Prides Aegis. Fairly devout chapter, they fell under the eye of the Inquisiton after a particularly bad series of screw-ups that ended up with them being sent on a Penance Crusade into the Eye of Terror. Sure enough, the Chapter soon fell, losing roughly half of its members to a void shield failure that infested the chapter with a Nurglite rot. Now they travel with two ships, one carrying the less diseased / mutated brothers, and the other carrying the bulk of their plague brothers lead by a heavily corrupted former chaplain.

The Renegades and Heretics part I'll post in a bit, if anybody cares to hear it.

>>50256004
You'd get wrecked most likely but yeah

>>50256016
>>50256037
>>50256072

Ok, I was actually thinking of doing it with Orks just for fun. But I see this is considered a dick move.

>>50256093
I meant Gellar field not void shield, FUCK

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>>50255941
Hell yeah. It may be xeno swag, but swag must be checked and cherished. Yknow, I have a good feeling though for the inquisition in the future. I think we'll see something eventually during the black crusade. GSC and deathwatch are full armies now so to me anything is possible.

>>50256103
Orks and especially Ork Lords of War are absolutely terrible. You can go nuts with that faction; anything you do to minmax them will still probably lose to most other armies assuming your opponent doesn't play like a retard.

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I got into the hobby with Black Reach, looking back at BFM, what the hell are these?

I just realised that a Dark Apostle cant take a jump pack or bike...

....it killed my will to make an army.

>>50256144
Just doodads to serve as objective markers or spice up terrain.

So /tg/

I'm starting an Astra Militarum army and my budget is £300

Any suggestions on what to get?

I was thinking just getting hordes of cadians but I dunno if that'll be fun

Should I get some Militarum tempestus aswell?

>>50256016
If you can reduce them to leadership 5 it causes infinite wounds due to them being unable to win the roll off.

You can combine mask of secrets with armour of misery for -4.

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>>50256111
Trips of truth. Yeah, I'm hoping they'll get updated too, even if it means rejoining another codex or being rolled into a catchall codex with the new Custodes and shit. Time will tell.

>>50256144
Locator beacon and four towers that don't have an ingame purpose. They're used for some of the missions in that book iirc.

>>50256166
That's it? I was honestly hoping, because there was four of them, they made like a little energy cordon for the marines to hide behind.

>>50256144
Scenery. Used in some mission as forcefield pylons.

>>50256103
>>50256117
I don't think anyone would mind if you did that with Orks lol. You could squeeze 4 Klawstompas in at 2000 points and you'd likely be wrecked by a Knight army anyway.

>>50256194
>forcefield pylons.
Didn't actually do anything though?

>>50256156
Now take a look at the rest of the codex...

>>50256203
Only in that scenario.

>>50256229
Okay, what did they do? Could it be used in games nowadays for fun scenarios?

>>50256168

Get a hand me down army from a retired fa/tg/uy bloke off UK Craigslist.

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>>50256174
Of course, don't fucking forget your Shadow Spectre Exarch and WWP Archon.

Is your enemy -4Ld and rolling on 3d6 yet? It's time to fucking remove some Riptides.

>>50256168
Get a couple of start collecting Astra, a start collecting Militarum Tempestus, an armoured claw, and a CCS. You get a couple tanks, 30 guard, 2 HWT (Which you can use to makeshift a PCS), a Chimera and some elite guys. Good starting point to branch off from there

>>50256248
Something something impassable terrain for the nids, the missions were basically escorting the pilot or the Aquila's fuel cell to safety and then those were there in some of them, I don't remember exactly.

Nothing's stopping you from using them as terrain anyway.

>>50256248

Use your fucking imagination, just because it has one set of rules in the box set doesnt mean you can't create your own, heres a easy one.

All units within 1" of the forcefield generator get a 5+ save

>>50256277
>mask of secrets
>armour is misery
>kill a single shield drone in the ghostkeels squad
>moral test on -6 leadership

>>50256300
Neato, that could be used for some fun guff. Thanks anon.

>>50256318
Whoa boy, I didn't want salt on my fries.

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>the new battleforces are $165 USD
>2 Space Marines
>Tau
>electro priest

>>50256344
Are we certain about the price? I thought they'd be 100. Not so keen on them anymore now.

>>50256103

Make sure to take a look at the Kustom Stompa then.

The other Stompas aren't as great for their points cost.

>>50256364

>>50251667

>>50256364

$150 is pretty much standard for any big box set these days. That being said, you get a lot more bang for your buck on average now compared to 5 years ago. Just compare any Horus Heresy box to the Space Hulk box set.

>>50256344
>>50256364
I heard $145.

>>50256384
>someone said it
That means it's true alright.

>>50256386
Yeah too bad GW decided they'd scam the Admech players by cramming it with shitty backstock nobody was buying instead of a combo anyone would want.

Maybe the formation will buff electros into something useful but I have doubts, and the'yre still ugly and stupid

>>50256210
Yeah i know about the other derp but somehow this have slipped me by, or i might have repressed it.
This straw broke the camel`s back, im going to sent GW a letter, wish me luck.

>>50256419

The joke is the only people who play Admech are people who will drop so much dough on GW goods that it ultimately doesn't matter, anyway.

>>50256419
>ugly and stupid
I don't play AdMech, but Electro-priests look COOL AS FUCK.

>>50256396

Even $145 is trash and doesn't excuse two fucking space Marine boxes.

>>50256404
>thinking GW would charge anything less

>>50256446
Live in hope bruh

>>50256435
Granted, and honestly the Kastellans and Kataphrons make the deal reasonable even with the dead weight of the electros. It could just be so much better if it was a unit of Vanguards or something

>>50256440
They don't fit the rest of the faction at all and are complete garbage regardless

>>50256446
They picked the
M O S T P O P U L A R A R M I E S
Holy shit how can you be this dense, shut the fuck up just because sisters didn't get a box

>>50256446
Fuck you, you're getting 100$ discount with those boxes.

Some of you cunts really piss me off.

>>50256366
The regular Stompa is absolute shit. The only ones that are even remotely worth it are the 400p Bigmek Stompa and kustom stompas depending on loadout. A basic Klawstompa with the head mounted flamer and some extra goodies runs at 450 or so, but the really pimped out gun stompas are simply way too overpriced because the guns' point costs are ridiculous.

>>50256463
It would've been a great deal if it was 100, since at that point you'd practically be paying for only the Kastelans and Kataphrons, but if it's 160 or even 140 I honestly don't see the point. Gotta get more than 2 of the units free to be a good deal IMO, and that's not even counting the priests.

Let's say for some reason I'm charging a unit of rough riders into a unit containing smashfucker. I'm going to have to issue a challenge if I want anything to want all 15-whatever AP3 attacks to butcher his retinue instead of just bounce off him, right?

>>50255000
Eldar Corsairs
>jump 6+d6 inches after shooting someone
>jump the same amount away after firing over watch
>teleport around the map
>almost everything can deep strike

>>50256459

I've been playing too long to have hope for GW.

>>50256464

>Sisters
>another imperial army

They could have NOT included 3 fucking imperium armies.

>>50256481
$100 """"discount"""" on shit that has a huge markup already.

>>50256481
>you're getting 100$ discount with those boxes.
I just miss the day when £50 got me a tactical squad, a combat squad, a rhino, 5 scouts and 5 assault troopers.
Don't call me a cunt for missing the time when the game wasn't shite and all about money [to the same extent].

>>50256489
You do get a walker, which is nice and $50 on its own.

So basically you're paying for the Kataphrons, Kastelans, Ironstrider and the Techpriest and getting a unit of Sicarians for free (and some electropriests to pawn off on some idiot)

Not exactly a fantastic deal, but a deal I guess?

>>50256523
they're basically the same prices today, because of inflation.

>>50256504
Bet you don't even buy from GW, do you? Used or recasts, isn't it?

>>50256523
You're getting all that for 100£, stop bitching.

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>>50256327
If you really, REALLY need to remove Tau you can fill in the rest of your army with a Covenite Coterie detachment and take something fast like a Scalpel Squadron too, both from Haemonculus Covens.

They both have Freakish Spectacle (the Haemy can ride with the WWP Archon) and fro mthe wording it stacks (unless the FAQ changed it) for -2 Ld. Which also stacks with all those other modifiers. Nothing in the game will survive.

>>50256446
I calculated the Tau box at $275 American. At 150, you're getting the Ghostkeel and the Broadside for fucking free.

I wouldn't fucking complain.

>>50256523

>I just miss the day when £50 got me a tactical squad, a combat squad, a rhino, 5 scouts and 5 assault troopers.

Now you have to browse ebay instead for that stuff at those rock bottom prices instead of expecting to pay bottom of the barrel for new molds and bits.

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>>50256523
YEAH BOY!

>>50256549
SW - $276: Dread, 10 Grey Hunters, 5 Terminators, 5 Fenrisian Wolves, Wolf Head Flyer, Iron Priest. Edit: Looks like there are 5 more models in the lot that I can't seem to find on the cover. Either its another 5 MEQs to make a 15 man bloodclaw squad or something like 5 long fangs or 5 skyclaws. Either way its even more value.

DW - $282 : 5 Bikes, 5 Terminators, 15 Deathwatch Kill Team, Razorback, Watch Commander. Its hard to make out because of that glare.

Tau - $275 : 3 Stealth Suits, Ghostkeel, Devilfish, Broadside, 10 Pathfinders, Commander.

Ad Mech - $263 2 Kastelan Robots + Priest, 3 Kataphron, 5 Electro Priest, 5 Infiltrators, Ironstrider.


From Dakka.

>>50256558
That's the good stuff

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>>50254586
Can't go wrong with a Fusion Blade & Iridium Commander. Really good in melee, but still only charge weakened squads, or just vehicles. A little surprising to most players.

As for Vespids, they're actually a pretty good unit. Don't be fooled by the high initiative, they're not actually that good in melee. A full squad can still fail to wipe out a team of marines, even with both their shooting and charging. They need to be supported by markerlights or/and another squad's (even just Firewarriors) shooting. Will often be underestimated, or even overestimated by your opponent. They just don't show up on tables much.

How customizable are Orkz? Can you have HQs with jump packs and such?

I've heard they're absolute trash, but I'd still like to build up and model an army of them, as that's what I'm mostly interested in, and the thought of an Ork WAAAGH! with hordes of Stormboys sounds like great fun to me.

>>50256544

Actually, I buy from my lgs because he's a cool guy, but GW is making it difficult with their prices. I can't even get new players because they look at the price and say "holy shit! Never mind." I feel bad for the dude because the product he has, doesn't move.

>>50256588
>Lash whip Tyrant in that list
I do love that meme image but this gets me every time.

>>50256615
Good thing price drops are coming then.

>>50256558
>>50256580

How? The scouts were always filler trash, 1 tac marine = $.33-$1 maximum, and a rhino should cost no more than $20. You paid $60 for what should have been a $40 box.

>>50256489

>400p Bigmek Stompa

That's shit too.

The thing is criminally under-armed and doesn't bring much to the table.

>>50256633
>The scouts were always filler trash
You sound like the type of person that doesn't like fun and only wants to win.

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>>50256631
>GW
>Price drops

im laffin

>>50256603
Unfortunately not.

Stormboyz are terrible by even the low standards of the Orkz and you cant give any HQS a jump pack.
You could give the warboss a bike so he can keep up.

Hey guys, my younger brother wants to get into Tau (obviously he's a huge fucking faggot with no taste but whatever). Is the SC! Tau + the new Tau battleforce enough to make a semi-competent army? I've actually never played against the fish-goat commies.

For reference that would be
>3 Stealth Suits, Ghostkeel, Devilfish, Broadside, 10 Pathfinders, Commander.
+
>Hovering Ethereal, 3 Crisis Suits, 10 Fire Warriors, turret thing

>>50256633

Get real. Even shitty used Rhinos on eBay are $20-25.

>>50256523
There's a box set on GW right now of 1 Drop Pod, a Land Raider, a Razorback, a Stormhawk, a Termie Captain, 5 Sternguard Veterans, 5 Termies and a Tac Squad, for 150 pounds.

That's more than enough stuff to cover the extra 100£.

>GW's model prices are too high!
>bundle that sames a lot of money
>i-it's still too expensive! How dare they not drop all their prices arbitrarily!

You poorfags are fucking pathetic. Enjoy never buying any new model that isn't a (probably shitty) recast or Ebay relic.

>>50255411
what are those arms from? really looking great

>>50256700
That's almost exactly what I field; Commander, Pathfinders, 20 FWs (bought Kill Team), 6 Crisis Suits (bought a box), Railside, and an OSC with the Ghostkeel/Stealth Suits (extra box). I'm considering building a turret for the Devilfish so I can field it as a Hammerhead, at which point the only thing I'm not using is the Ethereal.

It's a solid list at a bit over 1,000 points.

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>>50256689
>Stormboys terrible even by Ork standards
>No HQ jump packs
Great sadness.

At least they have awesome models.

>>50256724
Scions

>>50256705
Point being, I don't want to need to cover any extra price.
Say I just want a basic as fuck tactical marine squad. Why can't I just buy a basic as fuck tactical marine squad? Have you seen that Battle for Vedros shit? Give me those basic AOBR Marines at some stupid low price.

A basic model with a high end model option would do gangbusters for GW

>>50256716
That ass must taste real good

>>50256704

And shitty used Land Raiders can cost $70 on eBay. It doesn't mean you actually buy them at that price. I limit my purchase of tactical squads to $.33 per unit on average. Anything more than that is a waste of money. If you pay $20 for a rhino, it better be nicely painted with free shipping or you're a moron.

>>50256716
I agree they should just stop being poor
I can't afford to drop £200+ on this in one shot so I'm building up a force slowly, it ensures all my shit gets painted too so it's actually beneficial imo

>>50256754

>Say I just want a basic as fuck tactical marine squad. Why can't I just buy a basic as fuck tactical marine squad? Have you seen that Battle for Vedros shit? Give me those basic AOBR Marines at some stupid low price.

You mean like how you can get the DV Tac Marines for like $12 on average on eBay?

>>50256754
Now you're just moving goalposts, anon.

>>50254482
The Empire refers to the main Tau faction.

>>50256774
He meant from GW.

>>50256774
Yeah but who wants branded marines with Dark Angel guff hanging off every milimeter. I just want the option to buy a bog standard squad. I'll even settle for clip together.

>>50256778
If you say so

>>50256790
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marines
Already exists, he needs to stop being a fucking faggot. GW is not cheap. Never was.

>>50255927
im making a wheel of time themed imperial army. perrins detachment is space wolves called wolf brothers, rands is mass guardsman in red highlighted in gold called legion of the dragon. sisters sill be aes sedai, grey knights whitecloaks. im not sure on mat cauthon, i want raven guard because their stealth stuff matches his, but i dont think the band of the red hand would be 7 ft murder machines.
also, trying to turn beastman and chaos bitz into trollocs is hard to make them look good, no success yet

x2 Archon
x1 Sslyth
x1 Succubus
x59 Warriors (9 unbuilt)
x39 Wyches (9 unbuilt)
x5 Incubi
x5 Mandrakes
x5 Wracks
x5 Hellion
x12 Reavers (3 unbuilt)
x10 Scourge (5 unbuilt)
x1 Talos
x5 Raiders (1 unbuilt)
x3 Venom
x2 Razorwing Jetfire
x1 Ravager

is this worth $600? some primed most grey

>>50256797
I just want them to price per production and not via in-game strength.

>>50256716
I'm not mad that the box is too expensive, I'm mad that they ruined it with shitty ass electropriests

>>50256808
>GW is not cheap. Never was. >>50256523
More skus though. Even by inflation they shouldn't cost what they do now.

>>50256704
>>50256756

Immolators regularly go for $100+

Ebay is just as shitty anymore.

>>50256725

Thanks anon, I will let him know

>>50256816

>I just want them to price per production

You're paying on average $3-8 for a basic model which cost GW $1 to produce per model. You're living in absolute delusion. Not even the chinks can give you that kind of price rate.

>>50256816
That too would be nice.

>>50256825

>OOP models cost far more than anything else
>WHY DOES IT COST SO MUCH

>>50256829

Chinks charge $5 per character, not $20+

>>50256829
>You're paying on average $3-8 for a basic model which cost GW $1 to produce per model.
Only because they don't offer a cheaper alternative. Seriously, no harm to you or anyone that loves the hobby, but there is no reason they don't do a basic model that requires zero assembly and looks shitty. As long as they sell rules, boxes and books they're flying.

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>>50256840

Nigger you don't get it. An exorcist is $58 new from GW and comes packed with an immolator sprue.

>>50256842
Characters are expensive because they won't sell anywhere near enough numbers to recoup costs otherwise.

>>50256842

Which is still like a 75% cut off retail. You're asking for a 90% cut for what essentially amounts to a luxury toy.

>>50256852

So it counts as limited goods? If the whole world were full of Sister of Battle players, then GW would have more incentive to produce more exorcists with immolator sprues and sell them to you for $30 off the shelf. But as things stand now, you're like one of maybe twenty people in a thousand mile radius who is even mildly interested?

>>50256856
>essentially amounts to a luxury toy.
What the fuck do you think 40K is?

>>50256856

Actually, I wasn't asking for that. I just chimed in because $5/character makes me moist as well as making me consider trying them out.

>>50256822
because those kits are better quality than what they used to be
unless you think those shitty old metal/resin kits that look like trash should be the exact same price as new kits.

>>50256842
see
>>50256854

Chinks just grab a sculpt with all of the work done (sculpting, creating a quality mold, paying a lawyer to do whatever) and then recast it in shit chink resin and sell it without packaging, art, paying for books, or any of that other shit. You're delusional if you think GW could sell for the same.

Are people still bitching about Tau?
http://variancehammer.com/2016/06/08/whats-wrong-with-the-tau/

>>50256889

They could. But then they would go out of business pretty quickly (thanks in part to their shitty brink and mortar business model) at the acceptable trade off of the happiness of poor anons around London.

>>50256888
>unless you think those shitty old metal/resin kits that look like trash should be the exact same price as new kits.
I think the exact opposite. I think old kit stuff that looks bunk should be cast and sold as a cheap unit. Let converters have their kits, let purists have their kits, let hardcore painters have their kits, let me buy a shit kit to bulk the army and a purist kit for when I need something worth having.

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>>50256889

I'm just saying, pic related is $20 and a box of Wyches is $25. It's hilariously sad.

>>50256890

Nobody wants their time consuming well painted well modeled armies to be blown the fuck out by giant Gundam robots. Not even other Tau. Although the pain is amplified for fans of heavy armor who must accept that heavy tanks are generally godawful in 7e.

>>50256907
How many Succubi do you need for an army? How many Wyches?

>>50256928
Zero in both cases because they're garbage, though at least the Succubus isn't that bad of a hamstring

The real question is why bother buying the succubus model at all when I can get a box of wyches for $5 more, convert a succubus, and have 9 more wyches?

>>50256907

Yes, a Succubus is slightly overpriced. But the plastic isn't the main cost involved. Making the sprue, making the book, making the packaging, etc all contribute to the cost of models, and to recoup it they need to sell it at a higher price since you only buy one.

>>50256928

0-1 Succubus
0 Wyches

lel

>>50256949
Lazy fags who can't convert

>>50256949
>>50256956

You both got my point, despite how bad Wyches are.

>>50256890

This is fucking retarded because he's only comparing top-tier tournament lists against each other. The top Tau lists may be weak against 1st turn DS assault death stars with invisibility but that doesn't mean a fucking thing when 99% of games involve armies that will get BTFO by the Tau on a point-to-point basis.

Tourneyfags are a cancer lel

>>50256854
No, characters are expensive because you'll buy it anyway because you need it for your army to function.

>>50256994
Nope, seriously, it's because they sell so few of them.

Why apply so much malice to what's more likely a sensible business decision?

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>>50256822
Adjusted for inflation the battleforce you are creaming yourself over costs about £62 when adjusted for inflation up from its original price of £50 when it was released in 2008.

>hurr look at how cheap that is
It was a fucking BUNDLE, retard. The Battle Demi-Company released last year (now OOP because of Start Collecting, etc.) was £135, which is now worth £136 this year. And you get literally twice as many Tacs, a better Assault kit, Devs instead of shitty Scouts, a Dread instead of a Rhino (the prices have always been similar) AND the 4th edition Captain box.

I would say it's worth the price and just as good value if you can appreciate the aesthetic of an actually finely detailed model, which from >>50256912 I can see you do not.

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>>50256912
>math says Tau is really only strong in the first two rounds and then it becomes lopsided real quick
>People still bitch about Tau despite winning the match half the time

Yep, must be the big stompy robots. Because the Imps definitely don't have bigger stompier robots.

>>50257013
Meant to quote >>50256912 instead of >>50256912

>>50257013
>I would say it's worth the price and just as good value if you can appreciate the aesthetic of an actually finely detailed model
>implying relevance

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So I decided to go with an unorthodox conversion for some bikers

>>50257041
Nice.

>>50257030
>implying a well-detailed model from a quality cast kit with several options isn't innately worth more than a monopose pile of shit you just cut off the sprue and glue to its base

Okay mate.

>>50257013
lul irony
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Space-Marine-Battle-Demi-Company-2015

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>>50257016
>thinking that rounds 3 and after matter when fighting an army that is 100% shooty

You've already mauled the other guy into oblivion at that point and it's irrelevant

>>50257041
Im not saying i like it, but this might be the greatest thing i've seen on here in a while.

>>50257054
>(now OOP because of Start Collecting, etc.)

>>50257067
>Start Collecting
Shiiiiiite

>>50257076
Great and cheap.

>>50257055

this
most armies will be dead
Waaco McTourneyfag's Conclave of Bullshit Allies might survive long enough to sweep the entire Tau army owing to their 2++ rerollable with 4+ FNP and IWND or whatever dumb shit the current death stars do, most will not.

It gets even worse if you play a shit army. Orks, 'nids, or especially DE vs Tau is just fucking painful. Might as well just put the models down and pick them up before starting.

>>50257005
>sensible business decision
why would you assume this when GW has virtually zero history of being sensible in business decisions

Best setup for a hellcult?

Going with a CC hellbrute seems fun, 6 attacks on the charge is pretty dope, and the cultist will help make sure it stays alive.

Is it best to go with to squads of ten with maybe guns? or bigger squads?

>>50257088

>DE vs Tau

Please.

I can't deal with that thought today.

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>>50257088
Seeing as the Conclave of Bullshit ft Smashfucker Prime would likely be invisible, and on bikes, Taufag would get one turn of snap-fired shooting, and there aren't enough markerlights in the world to stop that rapretrain from kicking off.

Does this mean they aren't absolutely top-tier? Yes. Does this make Tau in general okay? Absolutely not.

>>50257153
I-it's okay Anon, at least you can take a WWP and carefully hide out of LoS of all his interceptors and surprise bomb him r-right? Enough splinter shots will surely down that FNP Riptide r-r-right...? I'm sorry

>>50257041
Is that a Securitron Ork?

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>>50257153
>mfw I own both so I don't have to

>>50257185
He is more machine than ork at this point.

>>50257177
>Does this mean they aren't absolutely top-tier? Yes. Does this make Tau in general okay? Absolutely not.

That was exactly my point, my man. Tournament stats saying Tau aren't top tier don't matter at all.

>>50257153

Sorry anon.

I have yet to play vs GSC yet but I wonder which would be worse for DE, Tau or GSC?

>>50257199
It's like a painboy fixed him up, and the mekboy had a second opinion while he was just lying around unconscious.

>>50257177

I have a lot of fun WWPing into Tau with Wraithguard with D-Scythes.

>>50257177

I'd love to take one of the flower formations and just bomb the shit out of a riptide.

>>50257235

That's a rough call, but I've never had to actually face GSC yet.

>>50256117
Well I was thinking of spamming a few Kill Burstas to get that sweet Str D AP 2 7" Blast with some foot sloggers for objectives.

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>>50257041
Looks like a boss from a Sega Genesis Sonic game

>>50257235
Yeah I know. I was just giving you an idea of just how bullshit modern superfriends are since you said you didn't know all the details. The faggots who use it non-ironically are as bad if not worse than the most WAAC Eldar shitter, though that isn't saying much since most Eldar players I know are chill dudes.

>>50257235
Tau bullshit is just more unfun, Markerlights remove the cover saves the army relies on and shit like Corpse Thief Claw is just focus fired and shot to death with cheap plasma, Riptide guns and oh so many missiles. DE at least have the option to null deploy and deny GSCfag his alpha strike, then counterattack with precision deep strikes and fast reserves of his own but in doing so he hands board control over to GSCfag and thus loses the game anyway.

Still more fun than just picking up models imo.

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>>50256144
I suddenly feel like I've been in this hobby for too long.

I got into it about 4 months before 3rd edition came out.

I miss that glorious cardboard Ork Dreadnaught.

>>50257289
>flier

Also on that note: Deldar arguably have the best tech outside of Necrons. Why don't they have more D weapons? Darklight is basically anti-matter according to the Voidmine description.

I'm not saying this game needs more D weapons, but still.

>>50257327
This
This is the shit you got when you paid a pittance for your shitty box set
Cardboard vehicles and shitty sculpts of literally monopose models

It was fucking fun but the QUALITY of the models does not hold a fucking candle to today's kits.

>>50254225
NO FUCK THIS. Flyers were just getting to the point where they were usable but not cheesy and DftS completely shit on them by turning them into circumstantial pieces of shit, most of which can't even attack other fucking flyers except in the ENTIRE NEW UNNECESSARY GAME PHASE IN THIS ALREADY ASTRONOMICALLY BLOATED GAME where they inexplicably can.

I wouldn't get away with ignoring it - my group is just too semi-competitive to allow that, but I would hate the shit out of it and bitterly shelve my flyers in response.

>>50257354
But new kits are going back to being monopose.

>>50257452

No they're not, you stupid fuck. Fuck you and your stupidity in every fucking thread. Plastic 5 man and 10 man infantry boxes are not fucking monopose. The old 2E models were literally one solid fucking piece.

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>>50257412
>Only runs fliers when his opponent has none
>10/10 would run flyers again

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>>50257452
>le new kits are monopose maymay
fuck you

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>>50257452
>People responding to bait this shit
All about the (you) train
>Have a you (you), its on the house today

>>50257548
I doubt it's bait, this autistic fuck hangs around these threads fucking spouting about this whenever he gets the chance.

He really is this deluded. If it's actually bait the time when he could have said he was only pretending to be retarded has long passed.

>>50257491
The new kits ARE monopose, just look at any of the characters.

>>50257597
>some characters are monopose

>ALL NEW KITS ARE GOING MONOPOSE

Anon, please.

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>>50257597
FUCK
YOU

>>50257646
technically not a character
>I think he means names characters e.g. farsight

>>50257616
>NO, THERE ARE NO NEW MONOPOSE KITS DONT EVEN SUGGEST IT REEEE

>E-Except f-for those I guess...
Hey look, I can strawman too!

>>50257646
It makes me so angry that those barrels converge on a single point.

>>50257667
It makes me so mad that the combined people who work for GW have in total, 28 and a half chromosomes for all of them to use.

>>50257666
The guy didn't say there were no monopose, just that they weren't going back to monopose.