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1st for Grey Knights will be forgotten in Fenris pt2.

It fucking hurts, anons...

Second for Fenris 2 1ksons 1

>>50223669
>Not fucking MAAAAAAAGNUUUUUS edition

www facebook com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/284803978581254/

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Nth for Tau Empire Fenris sept in Warzone Fenris pt 3.
:^)

>>50223706
I think the Magnus model is a little too much but I'm looking forward to the new Ahriman and the rubric terminators if the rumors hold true.

Just posted this in previous thread then saw this one, so sorry for repost:

New player here, got about 10 small games under my belt, mostly vs Necrons. Was wondering what to get next for my Eldar army, figured this would be a good place to ask? So far I have:

Farseer w/ Jetbike

6 Scorps w/ Exarch

6 Banshee's w/ Exarxh

5 Wraithguard

6 Dire Avengers

3 Scatbikes

10 Guardians w/ plat and Warlock

2 Vypers

1 Fire Prism

I'm a bit lacking in Anti tank, so maybe a Hemlock or w/e the flyer with pulse lasers is called? Or maybe some Shadow Spectres, I love their design! Thanks for any feedback.

>>50223719
Is that an ad for the latest lego game?

>>50223737
>>50223742
Also Shadow Spectres are alright but they are allrounders rather than dedicated anti-tank.
Don't underestimate the Prism either. It gets a lot of shit for being a single-shot weapon but mine have always defied expectations popping tanks left and right while jinking constantly

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>>50223744
I wouldn't be mad.

>>50223731
Studio actually had 3 different sized models to pick from and decided the huegass one was the way to go. They had DP-sized, a bit bigger and that one we now got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o1r9uUDmoM
HERO BAAASES

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Craaaaaab tanks!

Craasaaaaaaaaab tanks!

CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB TANKS!

I hate how your average models seem to be getting bigger and bigger, I seem to remember those sized models being reserved for 800+ point apoc models.

Why is it impossible for SM to win without deathstars or tons of razorbacks?

>>50223850
You just suck

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>>50223850
It isn't.

>>50223765
Thanks mang, a Serpent is deffo on my to do list. Also I thoroughly agree with the Prism thing, mine managed to one-hit a friggin Monolith in one game, admittedly it was Guided tho. Any advice on the best unit for taking out Necrons? Orikan in a squad of 13 Immortals is absolutely rape, I've never managed to kill more than half of it.

>>50223834
Same, I'd much rather 40k was skirmish level again. Remember when having 60 models meant you were playing a blob army or had an absolutely retardedly huge army going on?

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>>50223850
Because GW's hack writers used SM as a base to balance every other army against. Also the absurd amount of AP1-2 currently plaguing the game.

>>50223886
kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

Tau haters: Would a suit-light army be better in your book(s)? I'm not changing my army, just looking for opinions. No suits, just infantry, Kroot, and vehicles? Stealthsuits? A single unit of Crisis suits?

Where do the suits become bad in your book?

>>50223886
And the fact that every other army's troop choices are better than tac marines.

>>50223850
This. Just got into the hobby with the killteam box set. SM literally cannot win.

>>50223946
You've never played Orks, have you?

>>50223938
Why would you look for approval in a Tau-hater's eye? The only thing they would approve of is a video of your grisly suicide that they could masturbate to

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>>50223886
there is a resemblance

>>50223813
Adeptus Mecrabicus

>>50223938
The only thing that I find cheesy are shittons of markerlights in unison with riptides/stormsurges or crises suit deathstars

Alone their stuff is still really good but it's not cheesy.

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>>50223946

>Marines players complaining about their lot

You literally cannot make this shit up

>>50224095
It's not like they have optional scouts that got a buff this edition or that they can have drop pods with a special weapon or grav or the strength of the rest of their codex doesn't make up for just being decent and one of the most forgiving basic troop in the game outside of maybe necrons.

And for those that want to complain about the point cost per model they also have ATSKNF and with the right build free transports.

>>50223946
>laughing Dark Eldar

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>>50223946
>he thinks tactical marines suck
>he thinks tactical marines are one of the worst troops choice in the game
play this game more often.

>>50223719
Are those all riptides? Don't you want to make friends anon?

>>50224301
Not a single one. They are all Crisis Suits.

>>50224301
No, those are just Crisis suits.

>want to play
>have no one to play with
>tfw

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>>50223863
>All those god-tier special rules.

Who thought this was a good idea?

>>50224355

Meant to expand on this.

I'm probably just going to go to my shop work on the imperial Sectors the owner bought.

It's going to be another lonely day.

You guys have any plans or play any games today?

>>50224355
where are you from?
I just moved and city's GW store is either empty or filled with 13-14 y/o kids

>>50223946
>>50223970
>>50224095
>>50224212
>>50224225
And on this day, Anon got BTFO

>>50224387

>Who thought this was a good idea?

People who wanted to sell models.

>>50224387
That isn't what makes it so terrible.
>meanwhile Orks, CSM and other shit-tier armies get shit-tier rules

>>50224444

Eastern PA

The closest GW is in Philly and its a literal hole in the wall with no play space.

>>50224355
>>50224436
I know that feel brother
>LGS opens in March
>Fuck yeah! Imma start collecting 40k again!
>Have a few comfy games, no powergaming assholes, no salt, everyone is chill as fuck and just having fun.
>Start of October, LGS decides to close on Mondays, literally the only day I have off
>Dropped £250 on 40k and now I can't play at all
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I mean, I get it and I can't blame them, they were open 7 days a week for 6 months and the owners wife just got pregnant with twins, they fucking need some time off, but still. Fuck.

>>50223868
Take scytheguard and kill the whole unit with no saves.

>>50224517
Seriously, I have a GW store and 2 independents in a town near me, AND THEY'RE ALL FUCKING CLOSED ON MONDAY.

What the fuck is wrong with Mondays?

Seriously no ksons yet anons?
Have they successfully fired all of our dumpster divers?

>>50223669
>BZF 2 arrives
>TS get BTFO yet again because alpha legion alpharius them.
>final battle Bjorn vs Magnus
>Magnus realises the battle is lost and retreats flying to the nearest warp portal
>I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME FOOLISH DREADNOUGHT!!!
I can already see it.

>>50224541
It's essentially the new Sunday. Everyone stays at home, no one goes out to buy shit. It's often not profitable for businesses to stay open on Mondays, hence why it's my day off. Fukkin sucks man.

>>50223946
Comprehensive list of every troop that is objectively better than tactical marines:

-Battlesisters
-Bloodletters
-Plaguebearers
-Nurglings
-Chaos space marines
-Chaos cultists
-Kataphron breachers
-Wyches
-Kabalite warriors
-Guardian defenders
-Storm guardians
-GK Strike squads
-GK Terminators
-Troupe
-Boyz
-Getchin
-Tyranid warriors
-Genestealers
-Termagant
-Hormagaunt
-Ripper swarm

>>50224613
Nigga you don't even have Fire Warriors on there, assuming this is agreeing with the post you're replying to. And if it isn't agreeing, why are Storm Guardians/Gretchin/Rippers on there?

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>>50224613
>Chaos space marines
>Wyches
>GK Strike squads
>Boyz

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>>50224613

>Wyches

W Y C H E S
Y
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>>50224613
You have to be false flagging.

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>>50224613

>Ten millennia we have waited. Now, vengeance comes to Fenris.

Warzone Fenris Part 2: It's About Fucking Time Boogaloo has finally got an official teaser video:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1357

>>50224387
Well that pinning shit is pretty obnoxius but overall its not a bad formation.

>WHAT

Yes, really. Devastators and especially Assault Marines are really subpar units. You have to give them special rules like that to make them playable.

But its a shame that internal balance in this game is so fucking bad.

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>>50224677
>>50224678
>>50224682
>>50224721

You're all a buncha puppets.

>>50224766

Slowpoke. >>50223706

>>50224776
>Devastators and especially Assault Marines are really subpar units
Until the Devs have 8 Relentless gravcannons with amps bearing down on their target of choice turn 1. They are shitty units but grav is that-good and the pinning shit is REALLY frustrating.

>>50224789
>i was only pretending to be retarded

>>50224801
Wasn't me, I can just spot when I'm getting worked.

>>50224801
>Until the Devs have 8 Relentless gravcannons with amps bearing down on their target of choice turn 1. They are shitty units but grav is that-good and the pinning shit is REALLY frustrating.
Yes thats my point. They have to have special rules like that to make them good.

Although you can now get relentless turn1 grav-devastators anyway if you take cataphrakt captain and shove the whole set into a drop pod.

How do I make Scions work in Killteam?

>>50224613
>-Battlesisters
Tiny point reduction for no ATSKNF, Chapter Tactics, -1T, -1S, -1 Initiative and -1 WS. Get Act of Faith and Shield of Faith but doesn't make up for it, except against lots of plasma.

>Chaos space marines
No ATSKNF, no Chapter Tactics and no grav for a tiny points reduction. Character is also forced into challenges and gets a random, often shit reward. Marks are good but get costly. Literally nothing that makes up for this.

>Wyches
Cheap, decent close combat infantry, but they get completely bitched over in shooting in the shootiest edition. Dark Eldar assault transports are also flimsy as fuck, meaning that there's no reliable way to get them into close combat in the first place.

>Boyz
Oh. So this was bait all along.

>>50224613
don't forget crisis suits
Farsight enclaves yes please

>>50224942
how good are eldar's shock guardian (storm guardians?) in this meta?
My idea is to fill a Falcon with 6 (2 fusion gun) for suicide tank hunting

>>50225005
They're among the worst units in the codex.
Why stop at 2 meltas when you could have 5 for only a few points more? Why stop there? The D would be within your grasp.

>>50225005
>125pts for Falcon (a valuable HS slot)
>92 points for guardians
>Will take out 1 tank tops before getting shredded by the first guns that looks their way

217 points for a crap suicide squad is pretty shit tier senpai. Get some WG or some Hornets for anti-tank instead.

>>50225005
They would be ok/good if they had an 35p dedicated transport that allows them to deep strike with virtually no drawbacks.

>>50225005
Well >>50225040 and >>50225077 have basically said it, but Storm Guardians are slightly overpriced assault troops that aren't even good at close combat, thanks to S3 and limited options for close combat weapons. They're slow too and unless you go for allies, you don't get assault transports. In my opinion, leave the close combat to Aspect Warriors. Or just forget melee altogether and get more D-Scythes.

>>50225077
Why would you take a falcon for them?

I'm going to play a 750 point game against IG, chaos, eldar, sm and ig (tank ig)
How is this for a 750 point tau list
Tau CAD
HQ: Cadre Fireblade-60

Troops:
Strike team 5 man (Pulse rifles) +DS8 turret-55
Strike team 5 man (Pulse carbines)-45
Total: 330

Fast attack:
1. DX-6 Remora Drone (1)-90
2. DX-6 Remora Drone (1)-90

Tau Formation Detachment:
Optimised Stealth Cadre:
XV25 team 1: - 120
1x Shas'vre with homing beacon + markerlight/target lock
2. Shas'ui with burst cannon
3. Shas'ui with Fusion Blaster
XV25 team 2: - 120
1x Shas'vre with homing beacon + markerlight/target lock
2. Shas'ui with burst cannon
3. Shas'ui with Fusion Blaster
XV 95: Cyclic Ion Raker, Stimulant injector, twin linked burst cannon - 170
total: 410


The fireblade goe with the pulse rifle squad
Is it a good list?
Do I take sms or missile pod for ds8 turret?

Anyone have a pdf of the new Kill Team rules? Doesn't seem to be one in the OP.

>>50225191
>inb4 all the spergs raging about minimum OSC

Take only rifles for strike teams. Is the turret SMS or missile pod? Seems fine otherwise.

>>50225250
is it too cheesy?

>>50225250
Why would someone sperg over it? Its nice formation but nothing overkill really.

>>50225250
How would I deepstrike remora drones?
Do they just deepstrike as normal units?

>>50225191

Before anyone says you have points left over, your CAD is 340 points, not 330. Your total is correct at 750, though.

>>50225191
Why not put the melta on the sergeant so you can Look Out Sir! and allow both Burst Cannon suits to fire at another unit?

>>50225268
>>50225269
OSC is considered pretty cheesy, yeah. You may find that people at your local club/store assume you're a powergamer when they see you rock up with that. Or they may not. But it may be worth just using a CAD for your first game while you test the waters.

>>50225155
>>50225077
>>50225040
>>50225124
I used to play an eldar army 10 years ago
I have:
2 falcons
1 wave serpent
6 banshee + 1 exarch
9 rangers
15 storm guardians
20 Guardians + Heavy platform
1 Wraithlord
1 Vyper
4 Jetbikes
1 Prophet + 4 Warlocks
3 Dark Reapers + 1 exarch

My friend told me I have all the shittiest units aviable in current Eldar Codex. how Is that true?
> I've seen the huge mega giga nigga titan and no way I'm p(l)aying this

>>50225310
Forgot about look our sir for non IC.
Thanks for reminding me, will do.
One question, do people get salty about ghostskeels or is it only salt towards riptides and stormsurge/supremacy armours?

>>50225333
Mainly Riptides and the LoWs. Ghostkeel isn't as salt-inducing as them. Even in OSC it is fine.

>>50225333

A lot of that is just people belly aching about the guys bringing more than one of those.

A single Stormsurge or a Riptide or two isn't all that bad.

Does ForgeWorld keep their rules updated?

I'm looking for the most recent rules on the leviathan dreadnought

>>50225363
I'm thinking about picking up a tiger-shark ax-1-0
2 questions
1. Is chinacast decent?
2. Is it a good model/do people get salty at it?

I hope Fenris gets destroyed. And 1k sons will get their revenge, they summoning fucking Magnus. But wolves of course will survive

What are good Dark Eldar Kill teams?

Are scourges worth taking with haywire?

>>50225385
Can someone rate the riptides and their variants from best to worst?
Can you take earth cate engineering thing for forgeworld riptides?

>>50225326
>falcons
Underrated. I like them but they probably suck. Not being a DT hurts them a lot.
>wave serpent
Last edition these were disgusting. They're still pretty great and as your only DT you don't get a choice anyway.
>6 banshee + 1 exarch
They're Banshees. When have they ever been good?
>9 rangers
Passable but not the meta so people call them shit.
>15 storm guardians
Pretty bad.
>20 Guardians + Heavy platform
Decent choice due to their low base cost and access to the rules Battle Focus (run before/after shooting) and Bladestorm (it's basically Rending on their basic guns)
>1 Wraithlord
Bad only because he is outclassed by other Wraith units.
>1 Vyper
I like them.
>4 Jetbikes
The meta. You can give them all scatter lasers in this edition.
>1 Prophet + 4 Warlocks
Better if on bikes but still good on foot. Give them to your Guardians.
>3 Dark Reapers + 1 exarch
A passable choice.

The thing is everyone thinks they know what the "best" units in the codex are (scatterbikes, Wraithguard, Wraithknight) and will talk shit to you for picking anything but them.

hey /tg/ am making some rough rider for my steel legion but want to use the death korps deathriders rules

question is hows the best way to do this? do i have to take the allied detachment with a hq + troop before i can take the deathriders as a fast attack or is there a way around it (taking that deathrider formation for example)

just trying to work out the most streamlined way of doing it and its unfortunately looking a bit points inefficient

>>50225391
No they don't keep their rules updated.
Leviathan is in 30k I think and otherwise is still experimental but will be in Fires of Cyraxus.
You can't take the ECPA in variant Riptides because the wargear entry FAQ specifies Riptides only.

Ranking:
>Triptide
>Y'Vahra
>Riptide
>R'Varna

>>50225320
>OSC is considered pretty cheesy
By people who got into the hypetrain when it came out. In reality its a formation that contains one decent and 2 not-so-decent units and has special rules for them that makes them a bit better against some targets.

Its not bad formation but call it "cheesy" is retarded. Even GSC's First Claw is way more better.

>>50225462
Meant to also reply to >>50225412

>>50223873
IMPERIAL CULTS AND MILITIA: 1850 POINTS UNBOUND

> Force Commander: 50 pts
18x
> 50-man Levy Squads: 100 pts each

901 models in an 1850 game.

>>50225489
>unbound
Mate what you want is a R&H list with shittons of zombies AND a metric fuckload of quad mortars. Now your turns can take forever while they're taking forever.

>>50225326
Go-to eldars now:
-Bike farseer, great utility to buff anything or wreck face depending what powers you get. Usually players aim for invis to make unkillable wraithknights/seer councils/whatever. Also is really hard to kill with jetbike mobility.
-Jetbike troops. With all the scatter lasers you'll ever want they are one of the best units in game point-per-point on shooting paired with insane mobility and raw speed.
-Warpspiders, sanic speed with massed mid strenght fire. Can wear anything down and with ability to jump away from retaliation fire.
-Wraithknights. Best superheavy/gc in the game hands down, some forge stuff might contest it and against stormsurges it's a quickdraw fight.

I don't think there is a really bad units in CE codex. Banshees and storm guardians suffers from the common problem of being fragile melee unit in a shooting edition but any other unit is able to pull its weight.

>>50223813
This is becoming my favorite unit teebz

>>50225515
>-Wraithknights. Best superheavy/gc in the game hands down, some forge stuff might contest it
To add to this, there is a Forgeworld variant that is even better.

>>50225515
>Banshees and storm guardians suffers from the common problem of being fragile melee unit in a shooting edition but any other unit is able to pull its weight.

>He doesn't even mention Striking Scorpions

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>>50223669
So, questions as a incoming Skitarii player:

Should I run my skitarii as Vanguard or Rangers? And what is the optimal load out for either?

How much should I pile onto a Dunecrawler? And which is the optimal weapon load out?

How I should I load out the Dominus Tech-Priest that comes in the Start Collecting box? And how I do I run him in my army?

Which is the better Sicarian? Rust Stalkers or Infilitrators? And in that case, which is better in load options?


Also, some lore questions: Just how sentient are Skitarii? They seem like they're pretty much throw away soldiers, but they seem like they are also still somewhat more valuable than Servitors.

Thank you, in advance.

>>50225537
Striking scorpions are fairly durable. They may not be tournament level, but they're not bad.

>>50225537
Don't have as much of a issue with getting up the field, also mandi blasters.

is dark vengeance a good deal? i want to get into 40k but i don't have anyone to play with, so i was thinking i could loan one of the armies to my friend who's into tabletop strategy and play against him. i'm not really into chaos marines or dark angels, i'd rather get an imperial guard army, so is it worth it?

>>50225559
>T3 3+ with Shrouded until they do something useful
>durable

>>50225573
>Infiltrate
>a viable way of getting on the field for literally footslogging assault infantry

>>50225552
>Also, some lore questions: Just how sentient are Skitarii? They seem like they're pretty much throw away soldiers, but they seem like they are also still somewhat more valuable than Servitors.

It depends from forge world to forge world. They can be fully sentient and take their orders from the priests in orbit. They can have fully independent squad leaders but slaved rank and file. Or they could be vat-grown legions all controlled remotely, whichever you prefer!

As for the game questions: In all honesty dude, just go with whichever you think looks cooler / fits your army better. They're all pretty good

Warden of the Blade link anyone?

Exactly how strong is the baneblade lorewise vs the space marines?

also is it more anti infanty like the land raider in the tabletop?

>>50225596
I said didnt have as much of an issue, infiltrate isnt good but its better than what banshee and storm guardians have base.

>>50225613
>lorewise
It's pretty good but Land Raiders pull the most Mary Sue bullshit you wouldn't believe. All Marine vehicles do as a matter of fact.

>tabletop
The Land Raider is an IFV and is used as such. A shitty, schizophrenic and overcosted one.

The Baneblade is a MBT, it's slightly pricey compared to other superheavies on the market (Knights...) but it does bring a lot of firepower to the table. It will fuck anything up to and including the Land Raider itself with its fuckhuge cannons and its heavy bolter arrays can take care of light to medium infantry.

>>50225596
Well they don't die instantly to even basic troops like banshees do, so they at least have some durability.

Would the Exorcists have any relationship with the Marines Errant from the Badab War?

I like Anton Narvaez and his rules, and wanted to include him and a command squad in an Exorcists force (who were already using Ultramarines CTs). Wasn't sure whether to actually paint him as Anton, though.

>>50225581
If you aren't into either army then no its not a good deal, which is the main drawback of starters like that
The SC! AM is a pretty good deal, 2 of those makes a full like 800pt army, although it's kind of hard to get pick up games at that range with 2 LEman russes

>>50225464
Hey, I'm just advising anon that, at some clubs, it's got a reputation. You only get one chance at a first impression, after all.

>>50225596
3+ save with stealth+shrouded and infiltrate is way better than what most comparable units get. Also they have fleet to be able to actually get anywhere.

I mean it's not stellar but still better than most "melee" units in the game.

>>50225736
Its reputation is that it is Tau.

Does Chaos have any kind of Landspeeder equivalent? Some kind of speedy little gunship?

I just realized that this project is going to leave me with like 110 chaos space marines, not including terminators.
I still haven't even priced the Forge world stuff I need, nor have I decided on a proper color scheme

On a more personal note, tell me /40kg/ what's the biggest 40k project you've taken on? What's the paintjob/conversion you take the most pride in?

>>50225911
Sort of. It's called a 'Maulerfiend' and the guns are metaphorical.

>>50225489
>IMPERIAL CULTS AND MILITIA: 1850 POINTS UNBOUND

Unbound doesnt exist in 30k unless you're playing apocalypse.

>>50225933
More like MELTAphorical.

I feel like I already know the answer but why does an individual commissar cost so much

>>50225552
Genrally Vanguard are much more worth it, but damn do the Rangers look cool.
So you could give your vanguards radium carbines and the hoods if you want, or just do rangers counts-as vanguard because of they look, rule of cool and all.

I generally run a neutron laser if it's just one Onager, but if you know your opponent has flying then icarus array is the way to go.

Idk about ruststalkers or infiltrators

I've had success running a Tech Priest w/ an Eradication ray, phosphor serpenta, and Autocadeuceus

>>50225926
The quest to get happiness from this game.

I wish 40K was scaled properly. I want Marines to tower over guardsmen. I want Eldar to be lithe and humanoid but distinctly alien. I want the Tau to be a little dumpy. I want Orks to be bigger than humans and Nobs to be the equal of large Marines. I want Custodes to be properly big.

GK codex update when?

>>50226159
When Squats get a codex.

where's the librarian?

>>50226195
In the library.

>>50226203
What's he reading?

>>50226220
Lectitio divinatus?

>>50226220
Maps to the next library

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>>50224355
I know this feel.

>>50225926
I have an idea for one but I'm trying to find art for inspiration.

Basically want my Lord to have fused with his mount and have him sprouting it, but I can't think what to put into google.

Basically a guy growing out of a big monster

>>50225410
Mandrakes are actually fairly solid in kill teams. Reaver jetbikes are also fun.

Haywire scourges aren't that great..in kill teams mostly due to the lack of lots of AV. In normal 40k they do well for tank hunting. The regular splinter weapon they come with could be good but, special weapons tend to make the to pricy for kill teams

If one guy in my unit has a medkit in Killteam, do the other models still get FnP even though they move as separate units?

>>50226279
so a centaur basically? googling it is tough since it just brings up the tank, but try (x) centaur

>>50226396
Nope.

>>50225433
Reapers are really solid if you have a local meta that has Ravenwing or DE or any Eldar faction really. They are pricy but their range is solid, good natural saves and can move and fire at full ballistic skill.

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>>50224444
>>50224517
>>50226265

Just sitting here building terrain for the store that I don't know will ever be used.

>>50226449
What about voice of command?
Does the order go to the whole unit or a single model?

>>50226458
>good in niche scenarios and decent otherwise
Which is why I said they were passable, Anon. I never said they were mediocre or shitty but they aren't the greatest unit in the codex either.

>>50226491
single model.

>>50226494
Fair enough. We have two Eldar players in my local scene that always field them due to the ease they wipe black knights and anything dark eldar off the board. As a Dark Eldar player they are among my least favorite Eldar units to see in the opposing lineup

>>50226265
>>50224355
>guys at my store always buying models
>never play any games with them
I consider my lucky if I get to play against fully constructed models let alone painted.

Most of the time empty bases with little notes of them make up most of the opponents army.

>>50226544

Hell, I'd be ok with that, but no one even busy things here. It's the same reason no one plays. I've literally seen one thing go.

Starting GK/Scion bangbus as my 2nd army, can i get some feedback on a list?


Nemesis strike force

Librarian (Hammer, ML3, stormbolter)
Terminators (3x swords, 1x hammer, 1x psycannon)
2x Dreadnights (teleporter, Incinerator, Psycannon)

Scion CAD
Command squad (4x plasma gun, Taurox prime with AC and Missiles)
2x Scion squads (2x melta, 2x scions, Taurox Prime with AC and Missiles)

Hellrain brigade
Lord Commisar (Carapace armor)
Command squad (Medipack, 3x volleyguns, Taurox prime with AC and Missiles)
Scion squad (2x melta, 3x scion, plasma pistol on tempestor)

>>50223813
>THE MOBILE OPPRESSION PALACE!
>For just pennies a day, the Mobile Oppression Palace can oppress up to an entire planet of subjects!

>>50223802
Well, Magnus was always described as being huger than all other Primarchs. It would make sense that his DP model would be larger-than-life of an already larger-than-life figure.

>>50226462
I wish you could build undamaged buildings

>>50226776

If you buy enough imperial sectors, you actually can. It's all modular. Hell, you might be able to in just one, but it depends on how many non damaged floor tiles there are.

>>50223967
Marines have won every Kill Team game I've personally seen or been involved with, Marines vs Tau. Every single one including with custom lists instead of the demo.

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Starting a Space Marine army and while not a fan of motorcycle marines in general I do like the Outriders from Forgeworld and trying to decide if I just need three or if I should just suck it up and get six. Any SM players have any insight.

>>50227070
My grots could kill them.

>>50227082
Bikes are really good.

What I would do is buy three and use them as part of your Command Squad. Apothecary, Captain and another biker can be cheaper looking. Apothecary and Captain can have more diddlies on the side to look cool anyway.

Kroot: How do we fix them?

It's the new Shrike novel already in the mega?

Did a quick search but couldn't find it.

>>50227242
Full supplement on their own. Right now they're a schizophrenic sniper-but-close-combat thing that end up as shittier Fire Warriors.

Stealth (everywhere) would help.

>>50227283
I don't think their own supplement, but maybe Tau Auxillieries, including Humans, Kroot, Vespids and maybe Demiurg or something.

>>50227242
Furious charge, stealth, guns give +1 A but become assault 1 instead of rapid fire
Kroot entry becomes like guard platoon separating shapers, carnivores, hounds and ox as well as bringing back and fixing old FW kroot units

>>50227283
>Stealth (everywhere) would help.
I need this for one reason.
>tell them their rule is steal in forests only
>immediately start an argument over what constitutes a forest
I could always just take them off and put a riptide on instead.

>>50227242
make a riptide piloted by a kroot or kroot carnifex

>>50227343
>stick fish-tank trees on their bases
>keep them together as a unit
>"don't you know a cluster of trees is a forest"

>>50227283
>>50227242
When will this "close-combat" unit meme die? Even before their change they were mediocre melee unit at best and was mostly used like they were used now, but without sniper rounds.

Current kroots are fine. They are cheap meatshield unit with shit tons of utility that no firewarrior can ever rival.

>>50225401
>I hope Fenris gets destroyed.
>Implying Magnus gets to win
>Ever
Poor guy shouldnt have gone up against a popular model range when his own barely exists. That never works out well.

What's he best loadout for a Salamanders scout sgt in a LSS with CCW/BP scouts? Should I go for a Combi-weapon or do a power weapon?

>>50227363
Kroot Hounds are why. They are basically just bullet sponges for a unit that is already just a bullet sponge.

>>50227386
5p for acute senses. I5 for whatever reason you need to do initiative tests.

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how much shit would I get for allying a single unbound Avatar with a Cegorach's Revenge formation?

>>50227378
Well, if you want to charge them out of the LSS I'd say a power weapon would be okay. If you want to shoot things, a master-crafted combi melta or plasma would do well at annoying things.

MC Melta bombs would be funny too.

>>50227242
>>50227283
It's alright guys, I work for GW and I'm in charge of writing Tau for 8th. Your feedback here seems to be saying the same thing a few times over - they're schizophrenic because they're melee snipers. Rest assured I'll take this on board and remove the option to take sniper rounds next codex.

>>50227363
>Kroot are shit. They're just expendable meatshields.

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>>50227377
>popular model range when his own barely exists

Kroot are fine. The only issue they have is being a utility unit in a codex with better options and points end up spent elsewhere

>>50227400
Lol. Still not many play TS and Demon Magnus is going to be a big investment for new players.

I bet in the end half the SW go wulfen the 13 show up to help them control it then TS get swept and Magnus monologues before jobbing to Bjorn.

>>50227396
Power weapon + melta bomb it is then. I guess there's nothing that says I can'tmaster-craft a melta bomb is there? Should I go power sword or power maul?

>>50227428
>Still not many play TS

Because they have like two or three units, and no unique rules. That changes in the next few weeks.

>>50225606
Ah, okay. So they're pretty open to everything I suppose.
>>50226004
Vanguard and Neutron laser it is. Might build my next one as a Icarus array though.

>>50227082

Squad sizes should be kept to three then spammed to maximize your amounts of sergeants and special weapons.

>>50227392
>unbound
reeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Is the small rulebook in the Kill Team box just a small, softback version of the 7th ed rule book?

>>50227610
Yes.

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>>50227400
>>50227428
>>50227459
I hope warzone Frenis ends with a wulfen K.O.ing Magnus with the most stupid face it can muster.
I hope the TS, on the eve of their grand unveiling, suffer a humiliating defeat at the hands of the space wolves.
I hope the TS book has no changes to the actual TS units/no new units and just Tzeentch daemons with Magnus as a lord of war.
I hope I once again I get to lecture them, in character, about the failing of chaos because I know it's a huge bugbear for the chaos players that post here.

I want to taste the salt from the chaos players, I want to hear them one again whine about how awful they are.

>>50227662
>I hope the TS book has no changes to the actual TS units/no new units and just Tzeentch daemons with Magnus as a lord of war.

We know this isn't happening, lad.

Thread discussion possibly related: which army has the most obnoxious fanbase and why?

>>50227751
Chaos or Sisters on the internet, orks IRL

>>50227751
Internet: Sisters. As a sisters fan.
In person: Marines sometimes, Orks other times. Basically a tossup which one will be worse.

Which has the most obnoxious hatebase?

>>50227751
Sisters first, then probably orks or chaos
Tau have the most obnoxious players though

>>50223697
I feel like we are the only 2 gk players on /tg/.

>>50227759
>>50227774
>>50227779

They give us a good update, we quit bitching. Looks like maybe light on the horizon.

>>50227751

Tau/Space Wolves by a mile.

>>50227751
SoB
or the ork fanboys who say that orkz have already won because of endless war

>>50227751
Tau or Sisters of Battle.

Tau for multiple different sorts. Either Carnac, 'I like Tau because they're the good guys!' Fans, 'I play Tau for the mecha. That's it, really.' Fans, 'I play Tau because they're the strongest' WAAC, or some other variation thereof.

Sisters because most of them are either hipsters or people in denial if the fact that they legitimately never sold well, no matter how much support they gained. They were put into the Witch Hunters codex as a last chance because Andy Chambers loved them and convinced GW to let them in. They still didn't sell well. Also for the disproportionate amount of traps/trannies who play them.

>>50227790
yeah sure
that's what the csmfags keep saying

Does anyone have the epubs for the war zone fenris short stories?

>>50227695
How so?

>>50227790
No, it won't stop because then we have to put up with their smug attitude about getting an update.
And in the meantime Orks will become the most annoying as they complain

>>50227751
It depends on the majority/or very vocal minority. We never hear how DEldar or daemon players do anything to make the entire fanbase horrible. Well, besides summoning spam that is.

>>50227803
Any by support they gained, I mean support that GW pushed to get them sold. No one* wanted them.

*by this I mean the vast majority.

>>50227790
No you won't. Then half your playerbase will complain that they're not special snowflakes anymore, example being the sistersposter from a few threads ago.

I genuinely hope Sisters get squatted because out of all the fanbases, they and Tau are the most cancerous, but Tau are too profitable. Sisters are not.

>>50227808
There's at least one new unit coming in plastic outside Magnus. We know that from the video.


Consistantly accurate rumourmongers (Lady Atia etc) on the other hand are saying Melee/Shooty option Rubrics and Rubric Terminators, at least.

>>50227751
Irl, Dark angels.

>>50227751
sisters are 90% "muh battlewaifus" or "strong empowering womyn faction"
most chaos players are just really edgy, and orks can get annoying

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Hit me with your Tau hate.

The Kroot are because fluff. I can ditch them just as easily. The Commander's fusion blade is non-negotiable.

>>50225489
>30k
>unbound

>>50227751

Chaos. I get it. Your codex is old and chaos marines aren't winning in the meta. It just seems like there's no appeasing them.

I'm probably just fed up because out of the three chaos players I know two of them can't put a decent list together if they had their life depending on it. Both of them have only been playing for a year so it makes sense but, they do no homework on basic list building. The third just QQs and when he doesn't win goes back to playing Tau and picking on the local Blood Angel player.

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>>50227880
>I'm probably just fed up because out of the three chaos players I know two of them can't put a decent list together if they had their life depending on it. Both of them have only been playing for a year so it makes sense but, they do no homework on basic list building. The third just QQs and when he doesn't win goes back to playing Tau and picking on the local Blood Angel player.
>goes back to playing Tau and picking on the local Blood Angel player
>mfw
Shove the Emperor's light where the sun doesn't shine on that double heretic.

Thoughts on a GSC list (brood cycle, sub uprising) with allied eldar CAD with crimson hunter & farseers + warlocks on bikes?

>>50227921
Completely unfluffy.

0/10 would not compete in a doubles tournament with.

>>50227921
I seriously think the brood cycle formation is terrible and that combo is so unfluffly it makes me sad

>>50227921
Forge me the narrative for this. And no genestealing corruption here. Give me a good reason why the Eldar would ever work with a GSC.

>>50227937
>>50227960
WAAC ofc not fluffy, who said anything about doubles?

>>50227917
It's bad. The Blood Angel guy is more into painting than playing. Chaos/Tau guy gets so excited about tabling this dudes fluff bunny list it irks me. Even more because he keeps dodging me when I ask to get a game in with him.

>>50227977
In order to lure a nearby hivefleet into a trap.

>>50227989
Anon yesterday wanted to know if Eldar and GSC make a good team for a doubles tournament. Just seemed too coincidental.

>>50227803
What if im 'i play tau for the new fucking FIre warriors and crisis suit models'?
What then motherfucker?

>>50227977
We answered last thread. Farseer foresees that the only way to prevent the destruction of a Craftworld at the hands of a Tyranid hivefleet is to assist the cult in succeeding so that they redirect the fleet. As such the Eldar assist the GSC in fighting Imperial resistance.

Still pretty bullshit.

>>50227917
Pic related?

>>50228010
Are you suggesting that's what the majority of the tau fanbase is?

>>50228024
Just me f a m
Just sayin generalizing is fucking moronic and childish

>>50227921
If you are combining them to get a feel for GSC rules and get experience playing them before getting more GSC okay.

But, if you want to disregard the allies chart while doing so it would be kind of annoying. Either way I wouldn't be excited to play that in a pick up game

>>50227960
Whats terrible about brood cycle? It seems better than neo calvacade

>>50228010
I said the majority of the fanbase, not the minority. You just have bad taste.

>>50224468
Ayo thats my gw!

If you drive an additional 20 mins there is another store that has a fuck ton of tables. I forget the name, my bad.

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>>50227997
What army do you play?
>Chaos/Tau guy gets so excited about tabling this dudes fluff bunny list it irks me.
Anon, do the BAfag a favor and use the Forbidden Techniques of the Dick Masters on the double heretic.
>>50228000
>>50228021
I can take that.
>>50228022
My pic? http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-children-who-went-up-in-smoke-172429802/

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>>50228024
>low quality bait
>approved by 9/10 ethereals

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Its time for the great debate. Are the Grey Knights actually stronger than the Custodes?

>>50228052
One dice on the ambush chart. Lots of units that could easily be put into better formations and lacks the potential staying power of a the calcavade. Or even just the fact it's more points cost if you want to min max. Also, a serious vulnerability to pie plates and having the standard bear HQ getting in snipes or wrecked buy something.

so i wanted to start playing 40k, are the blood angels any good? i liked the fluff and think they look cool

>>50228071
Fuck off marineshit
Enjoy your slav manlet marine model

>>50228089
>Not using the actual Custodes models
What's it like living in 2013 Anon?

>>50228089
No

>>50228010
Then you fall into the 'I play them for the Mechas' camp.

>>50228089
Custodes. Each were handcrafted by the Emperor, and far stronger than any space marine. They are also older than the Thunder Warriors.

>>50228089
Grey Knights could use a fix. Nothing to extreme but, they seem to be in a rough place these days. I hope war zone Fenris buffs something for them.

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>>50228089
Don't try to stir things up.

>>50228079
So liking the new basic tau models is bait now?
Fuck me this is getting goddamn ridiculous

>>50228042
its for a tournament with no restrictions and im in a very competitive area, figure the crimson hunter will give me the AA GSC misses and the seers/warlocks will provide warp charges

>>50228101
>i liked the fluff and think they look cool

All that's important.

But you probably won't be winning in tournies.

>>50228089
Grey Knights are better according to Black Library. They and the Custodes are made from the Emperor's Geneseed, but the psychic powers of the GK give them the edge, as an army.

>>50228122
My army consists of a Fireblade leading Kroot, Fire Warriors/Breachers (in Devilfish), Pathfinders, Hammerheads, and a Sunshark.

What am I?

>>50228122
>'I play them for the Mechas' camp
Thats riptide/stormsurge/ghostkeel spammers
Good ole crisis suits are awwright

>>50228151
Not him but I say you're a decent human being and not a faggot.

>>50228128
The problem is theres going to be custodes now so there has to be a mid gorund between custodes and sm

>>50228151
A coutnerculture hipster who, knowing his army's playerbase is cancerous, cherrypicked the least used options and cobbled them together as an army just to point at it whenever anyone accuses him of being a cancerfaggot.
0/10 no sniper drones

>>50228151
Then you're a pretty cool dude with bad taste, as I have a negative bias towards Tau, though mostly due to their fluff and lack of Xeno auxiliaries on the tabletop.

>>50228165
Good point, I got them mixed up with another of theirs.

>>50228151
A Tau player who loses

>>50228140
Under those circumstances fair is fair and I get it if you are combining the two of them because that's what you have but, I feel like guard or Nids could do the same job perhaps better.

>>50228197
>>50228191
It's truth, it's my secondary list and loses every time. My main one doesn't have a Sunshark and has Crisis suits instead. Otherwise the same.

>>50228196
>>50228169
Fair.

>>50228208
generally for friendly games I don't like allying other armies and prefer running mono-GSC, eldar footslogging aspect hosts e.t.c., but unfortunately tournaments are not a fun experience here unless you bring something ridiculous

>>50228191
Speaking of sniper drones
Are they really that bad?
Kind thinking about picking them up

>>50228411
They were mighty good when wraithknight was still only an MC.
They are still decent/good, best snipers in the game even. Only really bad thing about them is that they are failcast and direct order only.

>>50228411
The worst thing about them is they take up a heavy support slot, otherwise they're fine. It's good that they don't need markerlight support

What are the stereotypes surrounding the players of these armies?
Space marines
Chaos marines
Eldar
Dark eldar
Tau
Imperial guard
Sisters
Ad mech/skitarii (is there a difference?)
Necrons
Orks
Scions
Harlequins
Inquisition
Blood angels
Dark angels
Space wolves
Grey knights

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>>50228476
>Space marines
Grav-Spamming Faggot
>Chaos marines
Bitter Faggot
>Eldar
D-spamming Faggot
>Dark eldar
Fast Paper Faggot
>Tau
Monstrous creature spamming, cover ignoring Faggot
>Imperial guard
Military-Obsessed Faggot
>Sisters
Nonexistent Faggot
>Ad mech/skitarii (is there a difference?)
Robot-Obsessed Faggot/Grav-Spamming Faggot
>Necrons
Robot-Obsessed Faggot
>Orks
Perpetually-Losing Faggot
>Scions
Ally-tier Faggot
>Harlequins
Elf Faggot
>Inquisition
Smug Faggot
>Blood angels
Actual Faggot
>Dark angels
Closet Faggot
>Space wolves
Furry Faggot
>Grey knights
Irrelevant Faggot

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>>50228562
>Grey Knights
>Irrelevant Faggot

Please don't shove it in our face. It hurts enough. We all know damn well they'll be left out of Fenris 2.

>>50228476
>Space marines
Usually either WAACfag, knows nothing about the setting, 12 years old or all of the above.
>Chaos marines
Edgy af, no exceptions. May or may not actually be a little bitch. Always complains.
>Eldar
Actually cool guys in my experience. Yes there are the faggots who picked up the army for the scatbike meme but they are easy to pick out.
>Dark eldar
I only know one and he's me
>Tau
WAACfags and weebs.
>Imperial guard
/k/
>Sisters
Already summed up in this thread. Hipsters, waufifags and SJWs. Most vocal complainers.
>Ad mech/skitarii (is there a difference?)
Do they run WarConvo?
Yes: probably just playing the army to win. See Eldar.
No: Fun guys.
>Necrons
Don't know about this one.
>Orks
Either the most loved player in your group, or the most hated. No exceptions.
>Scions
See IG.
>Harlequins
Crazy. Crazier if they run pure clowns.
>Inquisition
Don't exist.
>Blood angels
More likeable than vanilla faggots. May or may not still be bitter that they are no longer as powerful as in 5th (usually can tell by how much they suck Mephiston's cock).
>Dark angels
Let's break it down.
>Greenwing
Baby's first WAAC, usually Marineshitters who want to be competitive and pick Lion's Blade because they keep having to fire overwatch. Probably undeserved but I'm going off of my own experience here.
>Ravenwing
Turbofaggots.
>Deathwing
Literally nonexistent.
>Space wolves
Furries, no seriously.
>Grey knights
I don't see them much anymore. Back in 5th they were today's Eldar players.

>>50228585
>Dark Eldar
You're not alone, anon. I'm here suffering with you.

>>50228562
You forgot Daemons/Nids/GSCs.

>>50228581

Aren't the Dark Angels going to exterminatus the entire system? Grey Knights are going to get involved somehow in this all out brawl between the Dork Angles and the Spess Yiffs.

>>50228562
That seems pretty accurate
Except for one:
Scions:
DEldar + IG
So a bdsm enthusiast who enjoys getting pegged by an lasgun strap-on woman in a commissar costume

>>50228601
>Daemons
Summon-spamming deathstar creating Faggot
>Nids
Flyrant Spamming Faggot
>GSC
MSU Turn 1 Assaulting Faggot

>>50228395
Chiming back in. I'm not convinced on brood cycle. I'm working on my calcavade currently. How do you feel about brood cycle?

>>50228614
>>50228596
>>50228585
>>50228581
>>50228562
I'm in fucking tears omfg

>>50228581
>Played against a Grey Knight player
>Turn one he had three dreadknights in my deployment zone
>It took almost four dreadnoughts just to kill one of them

>>50228610
>Aren't the Dark Angels going to exterminatus the entire system?
Who knows? I'm a DAfag and I hope they don't. They really don't need that on their record. If they do then the Wolves can't see One Punch Lion Man breaking Leman's jaw again.
>>50228624
And that's better.

Should I go Tau or Grey Knights for me next army?

>>50228596
It's nice to know there are other masochists sticking with the codex Anon.

>>50228639
It's the only playstyle left to them...minus spamming interceptors instead of a third knight..not that it's easy to "spam" minium units of interceptors

>>50228665
Well,
You have to as yourself one question
Are you a weaboo?
Pro-tip: I am

>>50228665
Go Grey Knights.

>>50228596
+1 to be the award third wheel. Still my main army.

>>50228681
I love myself some Chinese cartoons yes yes that is true

>>50228665
GK if you don't have your mandatory SM army yet. Otherwise tau.

>>50228639
God. I wish my Dreadknights would survive a round of Lasguns. I let my buddy play my GK and he fended off a Doomsday Ark, 10 rapid firing Necron warriors, and 10 Immortals with a squad of Terminators and a Librarian and didn't lose a single model. I might as well give him my army because I'd have to sell my soul to get save rolls like that.

>>50228665
I own both. Along side Dark Eldar.

>>50228476
>Space Marines
Boring and vanilla, entry level, or WAAC.
>Chaos Marines
Oldfag. Sometimes actually cool dudes, but usually not.
>Eldar
WAAC.
>Dark Eldar
Edgy, but generally levelheaded. I attribute this to the Dark Eldar evilness being better-written than most factions in general in 40k.
>Tau
WAAC, weebs, or decent people who just like the idea of a modern army.
>Imperial Guard
/k/.
>Sisters
Memes. We don't actually exist.
>Skitarii/Admech
Cool dudes outside of the one formation. They appreciate a nice aesthetic.
>Necrons
Either kings of WAAC or generally laid back. Depends if they take the decurion or not.
>Orks
I feel bad for Ork players. They try so hard to be good and fail every time. Usually the loudest and most obnoxious member of a given LGS.
>Scions
Literally IG
>Harlequins
Every stereotype about the Joker fans you can imagine.
>Inquisition
I've only met one Inquisition player and he was a good guy.
>Blood Angels
>Dark Angels
>Space Wolves
>Grey Knights
Shit taste, annoying. All but the Bangles players WAAC. Also, furries in the Wolves.

Ones you missed:
>Tyranids
Poor, sad, and broken inside. Good painters.
>Daemons
See chaos entry.
>GSC
Shitty people with shitty modeling ability. No, seriously.

t. Tau/Skitarii/vanilla Marine player.

Why do Yiffs like to say that Horus tricked Russ into fighting Magnus, and detest the thought of Russ being eager to take down Magnus? Especially when the latter was the original canon?

>>50228688
Dreadknights make my dick hard as diamonds so yes its a very strong consideration

>>50228697
I actually don't have any space marines yet surprisingly

>>50228707
>Liking baby-carriers

>>50228718
Well better get into it then. Your no-marines player licence lasts only for so long.

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>>50228476
>Admech/Skitarii

CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB TANKS!

>>50228738
Will there ever be any hope for Grey Knights though? I heard they suffer from the great plague of power creep and they don't have too many AP2-1 weaponry

>>50228739
blood tubes wasn't funny

this shit is about as bad as that sistersposter

>>50228738
Not him but the only way I'm getting an army even resembling marines is if they release a 40k compatible Thunder Warrior army.

>>50228759
Well they still have their monobuild cheese, can abuse psychic phase and you can always join in the imperial superfriends train.

>>50228785
I might aswell do a Grey Knight-Militarum Tempestus ally force

So I want to get into Admech, and I'm new to 40k and modeling.

I'm going to pick up a Start Collecting Skitarii tomorrow I think. It seems to be the way to get started as I want to start with 500 point games and ease up to larger ones. Eventually a War Convo but probably not for a while because I don't want to drop $500+ right out the gate. I figure for this one at least I'll go to the Games Workship store and buy it there, the last time I was in there the guy working it was nice and helpful but I wasn't ready to buy so he looked like a kicked puppy and I'd like to pick his brain a bit on actually getting games.

But that said, I'm not going to buy those expensive ass tools, so what would you recommend to pick up as a starter for tools and brushes?

>>50228706
Because deep down they know Magnus did nothing wrong.

>>50228802
Literally all you need to have a really good starting force is to have 3 starter sets. 3 crab tanks are no joke

>>50228802
If you're new to painting, don't buy expensive brushes right away. Go to your local art store and pick up some fairly cheap brushes, size 1/0/2. Those three sizes will carry you well enough. Paints, I use Citadel.

Tools, I link the same source every time. http://tomschadleminiatures.blogspot.com/2014/04/games-workshop-has-recently-advertised.html

Keep in mind, Start Collecting Skitarii builds a Skitarii army, NOT an Admech army, until you get into the War Convocation. Admech have entirely different units except the commander (which Skit don't use).

>>50228814
I get that more or less, but I don't want to drop $200+ on a fuckload of models and demotivate myself on painting because ohshitlookatallthiswork.

I think I'll actually paint them and enjoy doing it if I buy and do them one at a time.

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>>50228705
>decent people who just like the idea of a modern army
Kek

Literally every sister player I've seen was trans or a very outspoken 'male ally'.

Every Nids player I've seen was an older bearded man.

Every dark eldar collector I've seen was female.

I've met two tau players, one was so autistic he was incapable of saying more than one word at a time while the other serenaded me with his fan fiction and got snobby when I couldn't tell him what the battle was that caused my librarian to be into bed in a dreadnought.

>>50228839
Sure thing dude. Never said you had to buy em all at once.

>>50228814
What happens if the enemy hits your crab in its weak spot for massive damage?

>>50228763
You mean (blood) TUUUUUBEESS?

>>50228854
Use your other 2 crabs to kill him, then rape his dead corpse, then kill his family then rape his family, and so on

>>50228854
The CRAB BATTLE happens!

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quick, post the worst marine OC you can find, I'll start with this monstrosity off of Facebook
Heres my homebrew spacemarine chapter they're from Krieg and are named the burning Death legion of Krieg. They're masters of siege warfare,trench warfare,fort building and pyrowarfare. They are a successor chapter of the Salamander chapter but theres rumors that they could have Imperial fist and preturabos legion ties. Like their parent chapter they are extremely protective of civilians and have been known to use their battle barge Howling fire as a transport for civie evac. They have a unusually large number of Terminator armor suits and every warrior creates they're own suit of artificer power armor as a part of they're introduction to the chapter. Each battle brother also creates their own master crafted weapons as well as they're own vehicles artillery pieces and in rare occasions battle barges. They are a non codex compliant chapter and have 23 fire clans (companys) with each Fire clan have up to 30 war cults and each war cult having 400 battle brothers in it. The chapter is given a large breath by other Imperial forces except for the forces of krieg Who the chapter recruit from. The chapter has a high mortality rate with the chapter being on the verge of extinction 40ptimes since their creation in the 34th millennium. The reason for this is because they are known to fight terrible wars of attrition in the most hazardous warzones in the galaxy. They also share The krieg belief that to die fighting the
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>>50228854
What if crab tanks actually had a rule that caused units with Precision shots and/or Precision Strikes to reroll failed penetration rolls/add d3 to the penetration roll, effectively being a pseudo melta rule?

>>50228899
Emperors enemies is the only way to redeem themselves in the eyes of the Emperor. This has caused the chapter to have very little dreadnoughts and most veteran battle brothers are usually under 300 years of age with the current chapter master being only 305. They have no dreadnoughts as their only 4 dreadnoughts have valiantly fought till they were over run and or facing the most difficult enemies or in the case of the dreadnought Ashen fox ripping they're own bodies out of the sarcophagus in a attempt at death. They recruit from the war World of Krieg and they are most commonly seen with regiments from Krieg usually fighting and dying az the common soldier of Krieg. To date not a single battle brother has ever fallen to the taint of chaos which has brought much suspicion to them almost as much as the Dark angels. The inquisition has tried for millennium tried to learn how that is possible non of them have ever been turned but most inquisitors are usually put on the firing line. This is my homebrew chapter and they are the main focuse in my fanfic book called The Ashs of War. Please leave comments and judgement and tell me how i could improve on their lore or color scheme and what you guys think of my chapter

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>>50228837
>Keep in mind, Start Collecting Skitarii builds a Skitarii army, NOT an Admech army, until you get into the War Convocation. Admech have entirely different units except the commander (which Skit don't use).

Yeah, I get that. I don't really care for a lot of the straight Admech stuff however, and I think the Skitarii are awesome and seem to be pretty effective. As far as Admech goes I mainly love the Kastellans and their goofy cool retro scifi look. I know Kataphrons are strong but I just don't like how they look. Same with Electro priests.

I really wish a formation existed that would let me combo Skitarii Vanguards/Rangers and Crabdonkey with a Techpriest and Kastellans, but it seems like GW hates fun, which is an unfortunate thing to note as a guy potentially needing to buy both of those codexes.

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>>50227791
>Space Wolves
>implying space wolves players are as obnoxious as a tau player
Sure thing bud

>>50228931
depends on how you measure obnoxiousness
tau players are cancerous to play against
space wolf players usually take the Viking persona too far and it gets autistic as fuck

Fuck this. Instead of Taucheese or Life is always Grey Knights, I'm gonna do Skitarii, with a Cyberpunk look to them. Black and neon blolours ftw!

>>50228850
My FLGS is filled with totally regular people and the only annoying ones are the two 12-14 year old kids that are a little tiresome in conversation. Everybody else is a totally pleasant person to be around.

>>50228950
>space wolf players usually take the Viking persona too far and it gets autistic as fuck
I've never met a SW player who knew what the Viking persona was. It's always fucking wolves which is just as autistic

What are these people like?

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>>50228956
Nah, go with Stygies VIII Skitarii.

Stygies VIII a best.

>>50228950
Tau are more obnoxious as they are and get worse when they take the righteous than you persona of the tau

>>50228930
So, there is a Dominus/ Kastellen formation, which you can just staple on to a Skitarii army. It may not be exactly what you want, but its close.

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>>50228990
Looks like I know what I'm doing ;). Probably gonna make the eyes screamer pink or something though

>>50229009
I more or less get the basics of bringing an ally and such, just feels like kind of a shame I have to bolt them on to the side in the same way any other Imperial army could instead of having some cool combo.

I'll still probably do it, because man those things are awesome

>>50229008
>tfw I own Tau and the only thing I'm guilty of is enjoying the fluff and being a weeb

Even all of my stuff is painted except the Stealth Team a friend got me as an early Christmas gift and a Skyray/Hammerhead/Devilfish I won in a raffle.

>>50228931
>Implying Space Wolves players are better than Tau
Your BS (Baiting Skill) is 3, but you must have not have failed your 4+ to hit anyone with that bait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoYyNKSXQ&list=PL7yV7QaSyj1J_cRIt36CnL0X3wgRqFfdm
Play when using AdMech/Skitarii

anyone here done typhus zombie spam? how bad/good/fun is it?

>>50223946
I play guard shut the fuck up you whiny shit.

>>50229071
I have years and years ago when 6th was new.
It was mediocre. My turns took forever and I didn't get anything useful done besides covering the objectives with warm, scoring bodies. No, I didn't just play zombies I took support too, but I had too many points sank into zombies to take anything worthwhile.

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>tfw nid player
Oh, but you SM players clearly have it worse than me

>>50229049
>defending tau with cringe as fuck argument
TIDF go home, you have no power here

>>50228705
>Shitty people with shitty modeling ability. No, seriously
What did you mean by this?

>>50229123
He means paint your fucking models already you god damn nidhugger

What's the general opinion towards skitarii players?

>>50228845
Ikr? Its like not every tau player is an asshole
unlike anti tau fuccboiz

>>50229136
>modelling ability
>paint your models
Nigger are you high?

>>50229123
The GSC players I've personally met try to do Ork-style conversions on every fucking model instead of ponying up for the real deal.

They look universally awful.

>>50229219
Was this before or after the new release? Before it's understandable, after is bullshit.

>>50229219

Lmao how is that indicative of every gsc player doe?

>>50229113

Cry more, double nidder.

>>50229219

Got pics m80?

>>50227242

Their own supplement.
Special rules common to basically everything in the list:
Stealth.
Poisoned(4+)
Shred.
No more jungle specific bullshit to their cover saves.
Only tanks are Devilfish/Chimera. Can only be taken for elites/heavy support/HQ
Tau Drones upgrades for Characters.

Good Knarloc Cavalry.

Good monstrous creature cavalry packing either anti tank, air or infantry in the form of Greater Knarlocs. With decent melee specs for light vehicle smashing. (3 in a squad)

Vultures with Melta Bombs.

Snipers.

Weapon options on Krootox, with an anti tank and infantry option.

Hounds with infiltrate.

Am I the only Skitarii player here? lol

>>50229313
>supplement

They get a 5 unit codex and become their own army that can only be allied, but GW also released a WD formation where they can be blended with Tau and get a bunch of free upgrades

>>50229331
Nope, I play too.

>>50229331

Id play combined admech
If squiggly wasnt such a lying shitlord

>>50229297
New Thread
>>50229297
>The Next Edition
>>50229297
New Thread

>>50223669
New thread
>>50229306
No TIDF/carnac allowed
>>50229306
No Slav poster either