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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1175: Goblin Infestation Edition

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>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn

>How to Jumpchain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDNjZmRG02SDFaRVk/view

>Previously on JumpChain!:
>>50214865
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What jumps let you get Jesus as a companion?
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>>50220546
Assassin's Creed
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>>50220546
JoJo
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Drop In
100 cp - Actual Combat Skills
You need these, right? I mean, you might be able to get away with just having amazingly high stats and just whacking away, but surely having actual combat skills will be useful? Well, pick a weapon. Sword, trident, whip, staff, pretty much anything. You’ve now got some basic combat training with that weapon. Good luck.

200 cp - Union Assault
You know what the best kind of attacks are? Combo attacks. If you’ve got the MP to spare, then you can use a special technique known as a Union with one of your party members, and launch a supermove at your opponent. This is one per person though, so If you combo with the same person five times, you’ll get the same move five times. For example, Cthulhu and a mermaid summoning the Kraken.

400 cp - Victory Fanfare
Whenever you complete a successful battle, you will find small amounts of your health and magical energy restored to you. This is a wee bit subjective, due to running on JRPG logic, but about five minutes after combat stops you will get the boost. This also works on party members - a maximum of three other people - and can and will raise them from the dead in the process. It will probably leave them bleeding out and in critical condition though, so get a potion or a white mage quick.

600 cp - Save Point
Sadly, this isn’t a literal save point. That would be a tiny bit overpowered for 600 cp. Instead, you can create a grand total of ten glowing rings of blue light, and place them wherever you want. Stepping inside this ring will instantly bring you up to one hundred percent of your natural power, healing wounds and restoring mana. Sadly, you can only use each save point once. On the flip side, your companions can also use it - once - and your enemies can’t use it at all. Pretty nifty, right?

The 200 and the 400 aren't new, but the 100 and the 600 are.
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>>50220657
Isn't he literally a corpse in Jojo?
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Are there any setting, with jumps, that get changed as much as Worm when you include wog as canon?
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>>50216676
SMT, what happens if we take Nothing could be Finer, and Long Run? The former affects us by simply living and the latter increases amount of time we spend in jump
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>>50220707
Harry Potter
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>>50220707
40k
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>>50220140
This jump is fantastic
>a perk that lets you "feed off dickishness"
>a tsundere sword
>a good harem perk
>a crown that lets you shoot fricken fire from your eyes
>a "fuck off and leave me alone" perk

It's the perfect vacation jump, too. You literally just sit back and shitpost on forums for 10 years. Or 210 years.
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Should I get her as a companion? What's the worse that could happen?
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>>50220670
Does cthylla show up?
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>>50220727
Supposedly that's fake, though from other things that certainly aren't fake still leads to the conclusion that J.K. is a crazy bitch.
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So, Digger's new jump may have a perk that allows you to identify the supernatural, but do we have anything that's it's counterpart? That is to say, is there anything that would allow youur powers to spoof or be undetectable to magical perceptions or psionic sensors?
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>>50220686
And?
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>>50217398
They only know what your in-jump self has. If you're a Drop-In, they know nothing.

As I said, you are not required to act in good faith when serving them. You'll want to do what they order you, but this does not mean you'll like it (like a moral person forced to commit mass murder, and this theoretical mass murderer letting some kids go because he thinks he can get away with that). In turn, this means you are not required to actually be completely forthcoming with them about your abilities and nature.

>>50217716
SUPERJAIL doesn't scale. The text about its lethality is descriptive of the experience normal Stand users get.

>>50218044
Superjail goes first, then if you live long enough you'll get railroaded into joining the race and bond with a Corpse Part, at which point Cannibal Corpse works as advertised. I think it's only 4-5 years between the two parts, so there shouldn't be any need for time changes.

>>50220716
Drawbacks fade after 10 years if the jump hasn't ended yet. This is deliberate.

Changelog:
-Changed the notes regarding Era-conflicting drawbacks.
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>>50220788
Nope.
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>>50220836
Starcraft Terran Route has psychic invisibility, Samurai Deeper Kyo has mystical invisibility.
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>>50220836
All I can think of is Pattern Ultraviolet in NGE.
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And now, the question posed by Sun/Moon that we should all be asking:

Do Ultra Beasts count as legendaries for the purposes of the "no legendaries" rule in PMD?
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>>50220866
>want
Not him but...I think you mean 'have' instead? Want implies you...want to do it. Which is pretty hard to reconcile with not liking it. Your example makes way more sense if you replace want with have too. Why would a moral person 'want' to commit mass murder? The bit about them thinking they can get away with letting some live also makes more sense if it's them having to do it, not wanting to.
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So, uh, I didn't get nearly as far as I hoped. Things came up, and then I had to reevaluate what I was doing.

The item section didn't get done, but everthing is lined out. And it has since been filled in enough that I feel like I can put these in a WIP. As a bonus on that, I included a few more perks? (Which I was actually planning to save until the full release before, but whatever)

Non-entry fluff's still coming at some later point, and drawbacks are kind of a half-finished mess that really need the rest finished before I continue with them.

Anyway... here's Exalted: The Infernals v0.4


Please tear it apart and see if I'm fucking anything up? Also, if anyone has ideas for items that seem like they should be there, but aren't, then those are welcome too?
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>>50220946
...I don't speak much good english, okay?

But seriously, you're right. My bad for the language fuck-up.
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>>50220963
Did you make the SMT 1 jump? If so, could you clarify what exactly declaring one of your titles as a Tyrant does?
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Heya /jc/, right now I just started a new chain and have come to realize that story lines spanning thousands of years are a pain in the ass to write. So how well do you guys handle it? Does anyone have any multiple jump spanning character/story arcs that they wouldn't mind sharing?
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>>50220836
Looks like Mardukth just posted one in the latest update to the Infernals WIP. Mu spoofs information-gathering abilities used on you.

>>50220947
Speaking of which, looks good. More Yozi perks filled out, and new artifacts. I like them. The Kimberry stuff is especially cool, in my opinion.
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>>50221014
I shorten the amount of time jumps go for. I've found it almost impossible to do any sort of story otherwise, as any character development or conflict that I want to be long term just fizzles out in most jumps where I don't go to absurd lengths to keep it going.
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>>50220997
It lets you use the abilities tied to said titles, and makes it so when people recognize you, they also recognize that you are [Insert Title Here].
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>>50221014
I think most of us greentext or make cliff notes. We usually write in detail about the more interesting parts instead of the entire decade. After all, ten years can be really eventful or really boring.
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>>50220727
>>50220804
There are no tweets recorded between those two accounts.
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>>50220940
>Ultra Beasts
What the fuck is that?
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>>50221034
What does SMT stand for?
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>>50220940
They would have to count as Pokemon first for that to matter.
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>>50221107
Shin Megami Tensai.
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>>50221107
...Shin Megami Tensei.
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>>50220866
So as long as we do things that makes us US and have companion help, Nothing is Finer is manageable.

The Loss Drawback, I have no idea how to deal with it. Hm.

Can we make SCOPE MEN with Brand New Day? Can we not give them some of abilities, like Styles or such, in order to focus on ONE ability, like Melody, to give them the full blown version of Melody?

Buying both Awaken and Melody use separate reserves of STAR, and it's only through finangling that we could use both reserves to have one ability stronger?
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>>50221171
>The Loss Drawback, I have no idea how to deal with it. Hm.

And nobody will until that story comes out. It's essentially a complete toss-up as to WTF will happen and how it'll be dealt with.
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>>50221171
About right.

No. Scope Men and Pillarmen are something else entirely from the base perk. Making things like them isn't necessarily impossible, but it's your business and beyond the base perk. Correct, but you'll probably need testing and research to get it just right.

Yes.
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>>50221107
Supermegatopia
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>>50220546
Shaman King, technically, though good luck finding a Shaman powerful enough to summon him back from the afterlife, let alone wield him in battle.

>>50221014
Basically what Heavens >>50221046 said. I tend to write a few pages about the events of a Jump, notable scenes or important events, but writing a full story on each ten years would be a huge undertaking. A few on my favorite settings get a little more love and care put into their writing though.
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>>50221204
If we have Melody and eat a Jawbreaker to get a STAND, can we use the STAR of STAND to enhance MELODY too? Asking to know how to enhance my Atomic Men.

This has plenty of stuff I want...

Can we eventually learn to replicate or create STAR like Pillarmen did with MASK, or what was done with JAWBREAKERS?
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>>50221123
Hey SMT, I wanted to ask a question: do Belial and Nebiros count as a single companion?
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>>50221260
Potentially, but that's something you'd have to figure out on your own. Incidentally: using jawbreakers as an energy source while they're being created instead of having them eat one would be an easier way of enhancing an Atomic Super Man's powers.

Correct. As much as I added the Jawbreaker Jar as a source of profit and a tool for creating Stand users, I also intended for it to be a font of research materials for [STAR] energy.

>>50221277
Yep.
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When does the Fable jump take place? Before the second game?
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>>50221310
During 1st if memory serves.
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>>50221017
Thanks. And yeah, Kimbery stuff was unexpectedly fun to write.
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>>50221310
Interval between 1st and 2nd Games.
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>>50221329
No, I remember the jump stating that Jack is dead.

>>50221384
Thanks Anon.
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>>50221299
Thanks. I hope best dads aren't too sad from being separated from Alice.
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>>50221414
Isn't there a drawback in DS II that allows you to take all three as companions?
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What skills/magics/ect would merge best with Story Magic out of Innistrad?
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>>50221458
Changeling's Talecrafting would be preddy gud, although that involves TRAUMA.
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>>50221249
God and Jesus look at you and laugh, before smiting you.

Even if you bought them with cp.
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>>50221511
Well, there it is.
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>>50221458
...For skills, being really good at writing stories and/or being really good at finding lost tomes with great stories would help a lot.

And otherwise just magic boosters, I guess?

>>50221511
Don't think the Great Spirit is buyable as the God stand-in. Jesus still has smiting capabilities, despite not being the current Shaman King?
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>>50221577
Yeah, so far I'm just getting everything I can that gives me stories, like the library out of Princess Bride, and then I'll figure out where to go from there

>>50221476
don't know how I never thought to include Changeling, but thanks!
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>>50221511
That's dumb. It's canon that you can be a shaman of spirits that are regarded as omnipotent by their respective religions. They're strong, but their omnipotent reputation is just reputation. There's no reason to think Jesus or YHVH would be any different. If someone can make an Oversoul of Acala, the almighty guardian buddha that Shiva himself is afraid of, then it's probably possible to work with Jesus who men call Christ.
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So I have a thought exercise for anyone who likes the Wormverse. That is, the characters, not Scion and the Endbringers.

I have a jumper Drop-In who needs neither food nor sleep who spends most of January staring out at the ocean and looking like a strangely unblemished hobo. I also took the Personal Problems drawback.

Name me a few people who could bump into him and (accidentally) get him roped into things. He's neutral-to-good aligned but isn't much of a superhero without something to motivate him, figuring most worlds get by fine on their own.

Hard Mode: Running into and defeating Lung early is not an option, nor anything involving the ABB in any capacity.
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>>50221710
I'm assuming you're in Brockton Bay, based on the mention of Lung? Well, if you're some crazy hobo hanging out by the waterfront, there are good odds you'd wind up having to deal with the Merchants. They've got territory near the docks.Drug dealers/addicts with superpowers and poor decision-making skills even before the conflict libido from their shards messes with them, it wouldn't take much justification for them to try to fuck with you.
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>>50221653
It's got nothing to do with power, it's a compatibility issue.

Ever sinned?
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>>50221748
>>50221710
Isn't the entrance to Taylor's safehouse somewhere near the docks, or at least the beach?
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>>50215533

Inadvertetly, yes. You see when I went to Bubblegum crisis and started becoming the mega-corporate mogul you know today, I was always in a power struggle with the Ultron Wannabe Largos, I made a habit of trolling him and eventually he came to suspect my origins. Nothing would of come from this however had not the Dark Powers in Ravenloft decided to make him a Dark Lord. His torment being with limited resources and unable to make his dreams of a Boomer dominated world come true. However he did have some resources, and suspecting I was able to get out of that place made microbots to contain a copy of his memories and attached itself to either me or my companions and hide in the warehouse.

The next jump was MCU, he escapes my warehouse with some stolen assimilated tech, and eventually steals Tony's Ultron program for himself. Effectively replacing Ultron.

The worst part was Tony Stark's rant as he proclaimed he would never make a mistake like that himself and how I ruined his Ultron program.
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>>50221765
Yes. If only there was a messianic figure to set me on the path towards righteousness by working with me and guiding me towards performing good deeds, while offering gentle forgiveness and unconditional love. Too bad Jesus isn't interested in that sort of thing.
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>>50221765
What does that have to do with it? Jesus loves working with sinners, it's his whole shtick. Do you not actually know what Christianity is, BLADE?
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>>50221818
I want to ask that question to half the Christians I know, don't be too surprised. A lot of the message has been fucked up in today's day and age.
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And like that I suddenly want to retcon my Shaman King build for Jesus as a Guardian Ghost.
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>>50221765
>Jesus is a self-righteous blowhard proclaiming all sinners will burn in hell.

No, no, no. Those assholes came later. Jesus was all about forgive and forget and don't be a fucking hypocrite.
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Have we gotten any good new jumps lately? I have been away trying to keep retards from hurting others while rioting.
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>>50221853
Do it. BLADE's just being an asshole while showing how little he understands both the source material of his jump and the religion of Christianity.
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>>50221903
Kindly refrain from springboarding my post to talk shit.
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>>50221920
No. And now I'm going to springboard off this post to say that you're a coward, who's too scared of conflict to acknowledge the actual problems with BLADE's writing.
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>>50221854
>>50221818
>>50221799
Okay, lets try that again.

If you want to meet Jesus, take him out for lunch, debate ideology with him, or just generally bro it up with him? You can do this.

He can and maybe will hang out with you, sending you disapproving looks whenever you mention your large number of waifu's.

If you want to use him as your guardian ghost, and enter the shaman fight with him? You do not meet his standards.

Assuming the same relation between you/jesus as there was between jesus/god, you will never meet his standards either.
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>>50221854
>>50221818
Jesus never existed, now fuck off powerwanker.
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>>50220745
No. You have to bring along her boyfriend and listen to them constructing additional rabbits.
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>>50221947
Jesus is canon to shaman king, as a shaman king.

You'd have better luck with the money king though.
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>>50221946
Wow. You're kind of an asshole, aren't you? "You will never meet Jesus's standards, and Jesus will in fact actively disapprove of the life choices that I've assumed you've made." Fuck you, BLADE.
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>>50221946
What makes Jesus so much better compared to fucking Hindu figures - which are canonically Guardian Ghosts, and considering that Hindu mythos has a dramatically higher power level than Christian mythos?
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this is a happy thread
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>>50221999
He's right though. You're a powerwanking shitheap and are going to burn in hell for it. Glad a jumpmaker is finally taking a hardline stance against you rats.
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>>50222027
Put your trip back on Red.
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>>50222023
I'm honestly appalled that my suggestion turned into this.
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>>50222027
I'm not powerwanking. I can get things a lot more powerful than Jesus, in the Shaman King jump. I just think it's pretty damn offensive to say "this guy here, who's all about loving everyone? If he met you he'd think you're a dick. I've never met you, either, but I'm just sure that you're that sort of person that not even a literal messianic figure could approve of".
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>>50222040
I'm sorry we ruined a thing again.
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>>50222058
BLADE ruined a thing. We're just along for the ride.
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>>50222044
>>50222033
You should take up a weekend job, Timmy. It'd be good for your character.
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>>50221946
>Implying I'm not the very concept of pure good this late in the chain.
>Implying Jesus wouldn't jump at the chance to guide even a normal Jumper towards good.
>Implying he wouldn't want to wander other jumps and redeem people there.
>Implying Implications.
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>>50221997
>money king

I dunno, BLADE. I'm not sure if I embody the spirit of Capitalism enough.
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>>50221107
Shorstack Molesting Tarrasque.

>>50221014
I tend to write summations of the decade or however long it takes by and large, usually for settings I don't know or care enough about to research. Otherwise I tend to zoom in on things I think are cool or would be fun to do and focus writing about that. My chains tend to fall flat in character interaction because I can't write other characters for shit, much less canon ones with set personalities. Attempts sort of just become stale and repetitive. I treat the jump like a really long vacation away from home, sometimes with travel troubles cropping up.

>>50221710
Dinah, Fortuna, the ghost of Hero, an old dock worker named Ezekiel who is homeless and trying to turn his life around while coping with drug addiction after his home was destroyed in [pick your disaster] along with his family, Eidolon out of costume, Taylor's dad, a widower named Zcion who is looking for a purpose in life.
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>>50221946
See, if you want to make a fiat ruling for your jump just make the ruling. Your rationale though is just fucking retarded.

Please stop talking, your inability to theology and narrative is making my fucking eyes hurt.

You really should have stuck to porn jumps.
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>>50222040
Sorry.
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>>50222098
>Shorstack Molesting Tarrasque.
So is it a Tarrasque that molests shortstacks or a shortstack Tarrasque that molests? This is an important distinction for which I may have a boner on standby.
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>>50221458
So, I was still looking for stuff for this, and picture related is the character that it is based off of. Is there something better than just standard telekinesis or something to hold onto your stories so that they will be ready when needed? Maybe a hammer space or something?
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>>50221458
Any skills or perks that you have for actual storytelling should give you a memetic boost. Also, perks that buff you based off of how other people feel or their faith in you would be great.
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>>50222129
In-jump, you mean? Because there's a lot of inventory perks scattered around the chain.

You could summon them with MtG magic, but that takes a bunch of magic too.
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>>50222129
Uh... Libriomancy?
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>>50222152
mostly just looking for ideas. I will probably end up going with a Gate of Babylon or something, but that seems like overkill, and doesn't really fit the bard theme that I have been going with.
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>>50221878
Depends how new you're talking. Black Dynamite is pretty funky.
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>>50222166
The inventory perks in Overlord and Minecraft are pretty good.

Gate of Babylon is probably overkill, unless you're planning to shoot people with your books?
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Jump #52: Fable
Drawbacks: Balverine Curse, 15 Minutes of Fame (1600)

Name: Diamond Paige
Age: 13
Location: Darkwood Bordello
Origin: Orphan (1450)
Gender: Female

-Perks-
Will User (Free)
Hero of Will (1150)

-Spells-
Blades (1050)
Multishot (950)
Fireball (900)
Multi Strike (800)
Lightning (700)

-Items-
Hero Weapon (Free)
- Silver Augmentation (600)
The Daichi (0)
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>>50222189
The Overlord inventory is pretty much perfect, thanks!
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>>50222192
Well, the first few years were peaceful enough. Me, Caim, and Chara went out and burned off our excess aggression attacking bandit camps that were terrorizing innocent villages and bands of Balverines that attacked the villages we were staying in. We sent samples to the Dahak whenever we were finished for later study, and continued on our way. The others were either hunting down animals and taking bits and pieces back to the Dahak as well, or were buttering up important people around the kingdom

Soon though, things took a turn for the worse. Balverines began assembling into hordes and ravaged the countryside. They bit and turned entire villages into more of them. Seeing this growing annoyance, I requested the AI for the Dahak deliver a couple million terminators to the surface, along with enough equipment to arm them all to the teeth. I set them to exterminated mode, and watched as the global population of Balverines soon began to drop entire percentages.

With that situation handled, I had turned my attentions back to the study of the Balverines. This study upon their capabilities continued until the 10 year, when the White Balverine appeared. I had received word of something immune to normal weapons busting through the lines like the cool-aid man. Seeing that the termies wouldn't be able to handle this by themselves, I decided to go down with Caim and Chara to take care of the situation.
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>>50222225
The White Balverine was a tough foe alright. One of the toughest I'd ever faced. In the end though, he had all of my powers at only 1/2 their full power, while I had all my powers, plus more from this jump, along with two of my strongest companions backing me up. Caim and Chara pinned him in place, while I chopped off his head with the Daichi and the Hero Weapon. I had Caim drag its body to the to the nearest major town, while I and the others went back to our homebase, an abandoned castle that we had renovated.

A few short months before we left, the plans I and the others had been enacting came to fruition. The people, seeing all these great deeds done by their hero, and already friendly with all the PR work we'd done, had decided to elect their hero to the position of King of Albion. Soon, Caim had been granted control of the kingdom. Lluckily, we left before he could do anything really terrible to the place.
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>>50222121
Yes.
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>>50222121
Its obviously a shortstack molesting a Tarrasque.
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>>50221954
>Not stealing other people's waifus

Do you even Jumper?
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About how much body horror is five Parasytes via the jump of the same name, Zerg infestation via the Zerg Route jump, a Tokyo Ghoul Kagune that's been fed a shit-ton of other ghoul's kakuhous, Ultimate Spider-Man Symbiote, and being a Lek'golo via Halo: Covenant?
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What are the Dungeons and Dragons jumps? I've found forgotten realms and ravenloft, but is that it?
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>>50222307
Somewhere on the scale of body horror between Incomprehensible Screaming and Having to Eat Your Body Parts to Regenerate
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>>50221710
Uber and Leet
They're nuts, run all over the place. Like a chicken with it's head cut off.

If they're doing their GTA session they might try to beat the shit out of you on principle.
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>>50222352
Neverwinter and Dragonlance are both also D&D based Jumps, but I think those are the four we currently have.
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>>50222352
We've also got Dark Sun and Order of the Stick, plus these >>50222381
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>>50222352
>>50222381
Order of the Stick and Dark Sun
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Could you give me some jumps with canon companion purchases.
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>>50222441
Worm
Skullgirls
Anarchy Reigns
Killer Instinct
Marvel Cinematic Universe
Hunter X Hunter
Brutal Legend
RWBY
Demon's Souls
Drakengard
Hotline: Miami
Naruto
Soul Eater
Smite
Valkyria Chronicles
World of Warcraft
Darksiders
Buffyverse
Kim Possible
Spyro Classic
Fate/Stay Night
Chronicles of Narnia
Legend of Spyro
World of Warcraft
Psychonauts
Touhou
Pokemon Conquest
Saints Row
Witcher
Sly Cooper
Young Justice
Symphogear
Shin Megami Tensei
Adventure Time
Teen Titans
Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei

This is a partially completed list I made a while ago before losing interest in Canon Companions. It also lacks Jumps that have Canon Companions as rewards, like Dante from DMC and Bass from Megaman Classic.
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>>50222381
>Dragonlance
Nerf when?
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Isn't there supposed to be a non-zerg Starcraft jump? Because I can't find it b on the drive.
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>>50222504
It's under "jumps with folders", even though the other Starcraft jump isn't in that folder so it's kind of pointless.
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>>50222504
Terran is non-imaged, and Protoss is currently in limbo. As is the fabled Xel'naga Quest.
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>>50222460
Pretty much every jump made by DeSu has a canon companion option as well. Speaking of:

>>50221449
Bonus Boss Bananza, I think it's called. They're all significantly stronger then their SMT counterparts, though Belial isn't invincible anymore.
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>>50222497
Can we compile a list of things that need to be nerfed?

>Sacrificial Bestowment from SMT
>Cheat Mode from Minecraft
>Strength from Ed Ed N Eddy
>Omega Healing Factor from X-Men
>Transmogrifier from Kid Radd
>What Doesn't Kill Me from Generic Virtual World
>Razzle Dazzle
>Rick and Morty
>Futurama
>F.I.S.S. from PS238
>Perfect Defenses from Exalted
>Speedster from Arrowverse
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Hey SMTAnon, what level of [MELODY] power does the [MASK] give you? Would using it with soft [MELODY] from the Children of the Atom Perk give you something comparable or better than the Drop-In capstone?
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>>50222581
Don't forget Real Eater and Bookmaker from Medaka Box and Perfect Communication Skills from Worm.
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>>50222497
>>50222581
You're totally right, my fellow enlightened individuals.
We should nerf anything in Jumpchain that makes you stronger than a limbless, blind, deaf, mute, retarded boy.

My fedora is so hard right now.
I wanna make love to both of you. With my big hard fedora.
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>>50222497
Why bother, it's a shit jump to begin with.
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>>50222619
No, you can be stronger. It's just that all of those are either blatant cheating or make you able to survive/defeat nearly anything.
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Could someone please post the shitposter warning?
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>>50222616
>>50222643
>>50222655
Prepare yourselves. I'm about to push my big hard MLP shaped fedora into your tight wet ENLIGHTENMENTS.

Imagine me nimbling your ear right now. My neckbeard brushing the back of your neck. Stroke yourself.
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>>50222673
Prove me wrong. What's so great about Dragonlance? Why is being able to buy a billion levels in a low-level setting a good idea?
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>>50222673
Don't make light of our plight, you foolish NEET. KOTORAnon eventually saw reason and realized that you need to nerf the power-wankers preemptively or even retroactively. Nothing good can come if you don't.

We can only hope that SMTAnon and many others will come around as well.
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>>50222656
I got you covered. Pretty sure a lot of this is samefagging at work, though. It's a slow day.
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>>50222713
You already tried to samefag that jump to nerfdom. No one's buying it this time.
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>>50222736
Thanks, and yea this is almost certainly a mass of samefagging.
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>>50222585
About the same as the Drop-In Capstone, just with the downside people can tear it off you or destroy it to remove your powers and it's not exactly subtle.

The whole deal with doing stuff with belief alone would probably be time limited/on a cooldown like soft [MELODY] normally is if you combined the two, while regular stuff works just fine.
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>>50220947
>The Drop In capstone item is basically a demonic Kamen Rider transformation belt
Kamen Rider Infernal.
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I heard a while ago there was someway to find out if two posts came from the same IP address.
Anybody know how to do it?
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>>50222673
Explain to me why a single perk should allow you to gift companions 1000s of CP worth of perks and abilities? It completely defeats the purpose of companion imports.
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>>50222788
If they both disagree with you they're probably the same person.
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>>50222788
Some kind've 4chan mobile mod or attachment does so, I think.
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>>50222811
I just want to find these people and talk to them IRL.
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>>50222821
You can't do that with just an IP address.
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>>50222655
More than half of the Chain already do that.

>Hellsing
>Overlord
>Supreme Commander
>Forgotten Realms
>Any Nasuverse Jump
>Digimon
>Zerg
>Prototype
>Creepypasta
>Narnia


And I could keep listing.

The power trip is part of /jc/, whether you like it or not.
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>>50222834
You'll have to forgive me. I no basically nothing about technology. I can use, but that's it.

Is there any way to find out where these people live?
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>>50222581
>Strength from Ed Ed N Eddy
U wut m8
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>>50222856
Not really, your revenge fantasies will have to wait until you get that job at the NSA.
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>>50222856
>I no
>no
Just kill me. End my suffering.
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>>50222770
>The Drop In capstone item is basically a demonic Kamen Rider transformation belt
>Kamen Rider Infernal.

Exactly.

Drop-In also gets the motorcycle discounted with it, to be even more Kamen Rider-y.
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>>50222867
>revenge fantasies
I just want to talk. In a place where we actually have to account for our actions.
I want to know what drives these people to behave the way they do.

I'd love to talk to all of you IRL.
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>>50222847
You're probably the kind of person who swears by immunities, aren't you?
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>>50222894
>a place where we actually have to account for our actions.
Like SB, you mean. Go there and be held accountable for your actions.

You power-wankers will find no solace there.
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Eggs, Bacon (Light & Crunch), Grits, & Apple Cider.
Breakfast of Champions.

But to really kick off the day I need my dose of the life giving stuff. Coffee. Hey /JC, let's make the very best coffee in the chain together, eh? How would you go about it?
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>>50222894
Yeah, I can't really see it playing out well if you show up unexpected to someone's house to psychoanalyze them because of something they said on an anonymous anime forum.
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>>50222931
>Like SB, you mean
No, like real fucking life.
I want to talk to you, face to face, in real life.
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>>50222947
The very best coffee machine is found in girl genius,Toriko or exalted probably has the best beans,or EX item creation to make conceptually delicious coffee
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>>50222952
At least I'll have learned something.
It's better than this endless cycle of hatred and vitriol we've got going right now.
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>>50222931
Guys, I'm using MEoDP to kill Scion and Gilgamesh, then using Real Eater and Dark Binding to steal their powers. Like this idea?
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>>50222894
Youre taking this way too seriously, mang.
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>>50222973
Where's that Best Cup of Joe combo we did once?
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>>50222979
Yeah. Gilgamesh is a fokkin scrub, mate. I honestly don't know why he's one of our Golden Dick-sticks.
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>>50222947
Mix some klatchian coffee from Discworld with Sunrise Coffee from Exalted: Dragon-Blooded.

Add in some of Dune's Melange, and voila, the best way to get Knurd.
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>>50222996
Nah, taking it too seriously would be pretending to just want to talk but bringing a taser and shovel with me.

I really do just want to talk. But I guess no one else does.
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>>50223020
speaking as someone with a coffee allergy is It strong=good?
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>>50223017
True. Solomon, instead?

>>50223026
Of course not. Why do you think they're arguing about a single player imagination game on the internet?
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So if someone can justify any of these not being nerfed, that would be good.

>>50222847
>>50222581

If not, we can all as a thread petition to impose more limits.
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>>50222947
Shaman King has purification coffee beans.
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>>50223099
That's not how it works, you silly goose.
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>>50222880
Nice. Question, by how much does it enhance the wearer's strength and jumping ability? Also, is the former Fire Queen actually going to rebel if I don't keep an eye on her, or is that just fluff?
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>>50223035
Off topic, but how the fuck did you reset my filters again.

You keep fucking dodging them.
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>>50220670
We know this is bladethulhu, right?
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http://pastebin.com/qjEKkXEP

Hi I made some Worm writefaggotry again. Not terribly eventful or interesting compared to Seven's entry to Brockton Bay, but if you're bored, here it is.
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>>50223100
OP.

>>50223121
That sounds like it needs a nerf.
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>>50223127
Honestly, I think it's kind of pathetic that you have to "filter" him like an SJW would instead of merely ignoring his posts like a normal, well-adjusted person.
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>>50222880
so is the Belt purely magical? or is it that weird exalted magic/science?
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>>50223017
> I honestly don't know why he's one of our Golden Dick-sticks.
Because he's Nasu's golden dick-stick.
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>>50223207
>magic/science
You shouldn't be able to combine magic and science. That's too chain breaking.
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>>50223184
I get morbidly curious whenever he blabbers. That curiosity has resulted in me losing brain cells whenever he posts.

It's for protecting my own brain.
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>>50223233
aside from being a thing in many settings and there being several perks in several drums for it you can't pin this one on me since it's Canon for exalted.
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>>50223035
Very up to the person in question. I know that there's the guy at my workplace who drinks Turkish Coffee and that stuff is... rough I guess is the best way to put it.

>>50223100
Right with the Solar Coffee Beans from Exalted I'll have a decent starter for a serious bean here. Getting it right on the first time will be a bitch but hey that's just how things are, process of crossbreeding and all that. I'll have to selectively breed the two beans into a perfect bean, of fuse them on a conceptual level with OOC Powers. After that I'll use the fact that this new super bean is one I personally made and make it into an A++ Noble Phantasm. Then, I reconstruct the Spark Roast Coffee Machine from Girl Genius, again as I am doing it myself I'll make it an A++ Noble Phantasm, and then let's get a great water base for this.

What kinda water should I use for my super coffee?
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>>50222900
Inter-jump balance is not a thing and it hasn't been since threat 100.
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>>50223257
God, what the FUCK is that art style?! Holy shit goddamn Jesus-on-a-stick.
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>>50223285
You get used to it.
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>>50223255
Yeah, but canon can be chain-breaking. It's why we shouldn't have a lot of jumps.

We should also get rid of those perks.
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>>50223257
healing water from Toriko,headwaters of the Dyne from girl genius, one of the Final Fantasy jumps has some pretty good water. I can't remember which one, though. Exalted has pure elemental essence of water, or you could make something similar with some Water magic and the liquid Magic perk from Gemcraft. >>50223324
if the perks themselves are balanced to the jumps, they are from. It's not chain breaking since they will be appropriate to the jump, and since there are very few limits on how powerful a jump can be very little can actually be chain breaking since there will still be bigger fish.
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>>50223353
>and since there are very few limits on how powerful a jump can be
There should be, though.
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So, how big are the SMT 1000 CP races (except Guardian because that explicitly comes with a human form). Are they by and large the size of normal humans? 10 ft tall? Skyscraper-sized?
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>>50223410
That is a matter of opinion and a very Divisive one
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>>50223425
Opinions are OP.
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>>50223460
that was the first laugh I had all day. Thank you
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>>50223121
By Exalted standard it'd be 2 dots, which would be a pretty big increase.

For comparison, someone with 1 dot in strength is literally handicapped and has about the strength of a toddler. Someone with 3 dots is exceptionally healthy and strong.


And yes, the Fire Queen can actually go rogue and wander off. Hellstrider have a Limit mechanic similar to the Exalts themselves, when that fills up they break loose from the bindings on them, and do her own thing.

If she has too much Limit while not piloted (7 out of 10) AND is given an opportunity to do her thing (rebuilding her empire), she'll sometimes be able to awaken and go off too, but then you can just command her to stop and she'll immediately obey.

Notably, she's more agreeable than most Hellstriders, who tend to go on rampages when limit breaking... She basically won't really Limit Break (too undignified), and just bleed it off over time. But she can still get roused and do stuff if given the opportunity.

So yeah, leave her untended, and she might try to go out and set herself up as God-Queen somewhere.
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>>50223152
Good start. Given the timing I wonder what will happen when Skitter learns her dad just hired someone who'd beaten up the merchant's after standing in one spot for so long.
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>>50223257
If there was a Jump of Villains by Neccessity I would have the perfect water for you to use. Sadly, there is not.

So instead I'll suggest Holy Glacier Water from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
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>>50223324
We shouldn't also be posting on this thread. There is too much information going on, too chain breaking.

You better leave now pal, before your chain gets broken beyond repair.
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>>50223419
Anything within normal human bounds, your call. Maybe Robert Wadlow level if you really really want.
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>>50223530
Cool. Thanks, m8.
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>>50223523
It'll be a while. The Merchants being present is something of benefactor fiat, since the ABB still hold the spot once he shows up. That said, Ishmael and Danny being co-workers and eventual friends is effectively how he gets roped into the story at large.

Hope you're enjoying it, anon!

Pic unrelated.
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>>50223207
It's Helltech! Which is sorta magic, sorta science, sorta liquified demon.

Mostly magic and demon.
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>>50223353
Cure Water (Toriko), Water straight from the Dyne (Girl Genius), pure elemental essence of water (Exalted), Holy Glacier Water (Avatar: The Airbender) & Liquid Magic (Gemcraft).is a great start. Now let's use this all together, using alchemy from both FMA and Fate to fuse it on an atomic and conceptual level. Next we'll use the NP A++ Spark Roast Cofee Maker and the NP A++ Coffee Beans to make the best Coffee ever!
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Post Overlord builds?
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>>50223600
no ,specifically the headwaters of the Dyne! by the time it reaches the open air the Castle has drained the energy out of it.
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>>50223607
>tfw you want to take Overlord early, but you also want to import your Choir as your NPC
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>>50223595
darn,if it was only magic I could incorporate it into my current Driver belt.
>>50223607
here you go,it's too big to fit in a single post.
http://pastebin.com/izAbYuE7
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>>50223607
Sure. Or I would, if I knew where the fuck it was.
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If I had two heads and the Doublethink Perk from 1984, could I be both Drunk out of my and Knurd beyond relief at the same time? Would I even require Doublethink? What modifications to my digestive system would I need to make to induce these two states at the same time?
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>>50223622
Yeah I know but I was just making a quick list. I get that it has to be specifically the headwaters of the Dyne, but I was just putting all the ideas together in on one spot, sorry if that was misrepresented. Also neat plan for Overlord Mind if take some ideas from it?
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Would it be balanced for me to include a capstone item that gives 300 extra CP in all future jumps and supplements?
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>>50223595
>Mostly magic and demon.
Ahem, mostly magic and demon generally for Helltech that is. The Belt specifically has a good basis in Magitech too. After all, it's pretty much Exalted-style power armor in a rider belt.

Also, forgot my name on these. Damnit.
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>>50223692
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>>50223711
fair enough and you are welcome to do so. glad you like my build, no one ever comments on them anymore
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>>50223692
Just fiddle with your biology until one head allow alcohol into the brain while the other doesn't. Double-Think probably isn't necessary.

>>50223716
No. The answer to your question is no.
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>>50220670
How often can you make the Save Points?
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>>50223739
Your build is fine, but the plan gives me ideas... I'll need to go to 1864 and a few other Jumps first, to get the proper base of operations to use but I now wanna do something that'll make Ainz little kingdom look like a kiddy pool.
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>>50223753
>No. The answer to your question is no.
I don't understand why not? Aren't there several jumps that provide persistent effects between jumps?
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>>50223716
You are retarded and you should stop building whatever it is you're building.
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>>50223716
For which jump? If it's something that's generally more powerful than modern earth, it should be fine to add something like that.
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>>50220947
My Hype is Maximum.

>>50221781
Her safehouse, and her actual house, are both in "The Docks", it's a large district of the town.
Generally speaking when they talk about the city in broad stokes they refer to "The Docks", "Downtown", and "The Boardwalk".

>>50222381
>Neverwinter
Neeshka is best waifu.

>>50222770
>>50222880
This Pleases Me.

>>50223509
How hard would it be to fuse The Vassal's Blade with a sword I already have?
Can I just upgrade an existing blade with the abilities of The Vassal's Sword?

>>50223594
YOU FOOL! You're only supposed to post that when someone's post ends in 666.
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>>50223799
On the off chance you are being serious, no, there is not one single Jump that offers additional CP on future Jumps. And there never should be. No Perk should ever alter the mechanics of Jumpchain as a whole.
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>>50223716
Yes, but don't forget to make another perk that makes you immune to everything.

Also, I recommend sneaking it with a link to a doc when a thread is about to die and upload it to the drive when jumps start accumulating.

Well done my fellow SBer, soon this thread will be ours!
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>>50223838
>Also, I recommend sneaking it with a link to a doc when a thread is about to die and upload it to the drive when jumps start accumulating.
That only works if you're making a jump for an angsty teen drama. Don't spread misinformation.
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>>50223770
Yeah, my animal Crossing town as gotten pretty impressive with all the multi-millennia old Ar Tonelico towers,necron monoliths,the bigger on the inside utilidor system,the darkest dungeon stuff.
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How powerful is Ultimate form Kuuga?
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>>50223837
You.

Bit.

The bait.
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>>50223755
Just draw a circle on the ground and poke it with your magic. You only get ten though, and you can't move them.
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>>50223837
One of the versions of RWBY, Warhammer Fantasy, and Nine to Five all have Companion options that gain additional CP in future Jumps. Not that I agree with that guy or believe that he is anything other than a shitposter, but he is not technically lying on this account, and he will probably mention this next.
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>>50223895
Ten per Jump or ten... ever?
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>>50223837
>>50223838
Okay, what about a perk that gives discounts on everything regardless of background? Obviously this wouldn't apply to completely undiscountable perks and items.
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>>50223607
From memory:
Drawbacks, foreigner, embroiled in politics, rival player.
Mage player
Slime
42nd supreme being
Level 100
P2W items
Summoning specialty and innate talent.
Alchemy
Use Any Magic Item
Arcane Caster, Divine Caster, Spiritualist
Ring of Elru
Abyss of Magic
Free NPC import

Then from the scenario I pick up legendary equipment.

What is your build?
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>>50223911
Per jump.
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>>50223936
Ah, cool beans.
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>>50223924
>What is your build?
Curvy, yet muscular, with a little something extra where I need it.
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>>50223936
Cool. Speaking of, is there anything elsewhere in the chain that's limited use but doesn't rely on material components?
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>>50223660
You can't give the ring away.
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>>50223960
...I'm not sure what you just said. Rephrase it please?
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>>50223942
Yeah, long hair is great.
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>>50223916
No.
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>>50223891
He can punch with 80 tons of force and kick with a 100 tons of force. His Ultimate kick can, according to the jump, at least sink Japan beneath the waves and at max destroy the whole world if the things that created it are correct. The jump itself calls that an exaggeration, but in canon, they're probably right.
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>>50223835
>My Hype is Maximum.
>This Pleases Me.
Excellent. Anything I'm still missing?


>How hard would it be to fuse The Vassal's Blade with a sword I already have?
Depends on your fusing methods, but probably pretty hard? It's supposed to be something pushing the limits of what a Daiklave can do, while not /quite/ tipping over into Artifact N/A like the Sword of the Yozis itself...

>Can I just upgrade an existing blade with the abilities of The Vassal's Sword?
On one hand, I want to say yes. On the other, it's supposed to be a somewhat personal masterpiece of Ligier's...?

Hm. Might make sense if Ligier could do it though, so maybe I'll put a note in that you could hand a weapon over to be reforged with the extra capabilities by him?
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>>50223995
I know, right? It's extra awesome when it's prehensile.
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>>50223986
where does it say that?
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>>50223992
I'm asking if there's anything else in the chain that's limited use like Vancian Magic, thus requiring a lot of thought before using, that doesn't rely in the specific mechanics of D&D magic (i.e. forgetting studied spells and wasting material components).

Like the game mechanics version of Dark Souls magic.
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>>50224011
In the description for each world item.
>It issoulbound to itswearer and cannot be stolen, givenaway,destroyed,orlost byanymethod short of death.
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>>50223942
>with a little something extra where I need it
Painus?
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>>50224008
>Excellent. Anything I'm still missing?
Nothing that immediately comes to mind, it's looking really good.

>maybe I'll put a note in that you could hand a weapon over to be reforged with the extra capabilities by him?
I would personally really like that. Mostly so I can upgrade The Sword.
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>>50224048
yes, and I have never worn it. Ergo I am not the one who it is bound to.
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>>50224061
You bought it. It is yours. Stop trying to game it.
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>>50224070
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Burden+of+Proof
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So, what I'm getting from this conversation is that CP is your guys' scared cow, and for some reason literally any thing else can be carried over between jumps? Can't say I understand why, but I'll leave it alone. I will not touch the cow.
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>>50224081
so you're saying that whenever you purchase equipment with CP, it's automatically equipped to you? because that's not how things are worded. as is I will never have the power of the ring Nor will any of my companions aside from mother box.
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>>50224081
>stop trying to game it
It's funny how that's literally the opposite of the jumpmaker's philosophy.
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>>50224049
Yep.
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>>50224052
Alright. I'll think on it then.
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Friendly reminder, it's super easy to filter someone based off of their name or trip. Doing so will likely save you all manner of heartache.
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>>50224131
Please don't produce libel against HeavensAnon.
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>>50224131
Bullshit.
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>>50223607
Overlord (The Series)
Origin: Human (Dwarf) - Angel Local Drop-In
Scenario: Hero out of Myth and Legend
Perks
Tolerance for Evil
Innate Talent: Identify Talents, Enhanced Healing Magic, Magic Item Creator, Bestiary Knowledge, Omnidextrous
The Realm of Heroes
Class Skills - Bard, Thief, Monk,Talismonger (250cp)
Friends with the Devil (100cp)
Level One Hundred (600cp)
Gear
Magical Instrument Plus (50c)
Medium Tier Equipment
Companions
A Local Hero
Local Elf Warrior
The Realm of Heroes
Innate Talent - Detect Magic Power, Martial Arts Prodigy, Magical Powerhouse
Class Skills - Magic Warrior, Ranger (100cp)
Specific Specialization - Crowd Control (200cp)
World Champion (300cp)
Legacy Tier Equiment, Hall of the Champion
A Custom NPC
Werehyena Alpha Magic Caster
The Realm of Heroes, Level One Hundred
Themed Aesthetics
Personal Inventory
Innate Talent - Enhanced Summoning (100cp)
Class Skills - Spiritualist
Divine Tier Equipment, Orb of Death
Specific Specialization - Necromancy, Summoning (200cp)
Dark Wisdom (200cp)
The Abyss of Magic (300cp)

I am the man that will befriend everyone.

Here's my current build, which will probably undergo some revision. I will probably take the Drawback that sends you up against an Yggdrasil Guild. I was planning on completing the Hero out of Myth and Legend Scenario by befriending my obscenely powerful foes through performance in very public, densely populated areas. The Drawback doesn't say that you HAVE to kill them, and the wording implies that their is no Fiat stopping the Drawback from being solved in your time there.

I fanwanked that when I received my CP at the end of the Jump, I could spend it on a new race and gain that races discounts and such, while retaining any Perks (but not discounts) gained from my original race.

The Local Hero's my Ghoul from VtM:Bloodlines, and my Custom NPC is A Spotted Hyena Dickgirl.
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>>50224152
Riiiight. Because Brellin is totally HeavensAnon, even though he shits on "his own" drawbacks and scenarios, in addition to acting entirely differently.
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>>50224150
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>>50220947
>Isidoros keeps yelling about how tiny you are

Is that a Jumper who actually completed the huge quest joke jump posted a few friends ago?
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>>50224214
Their writing style is literally the exact same. You'd have to be an idiot not to see it.
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Is there no age roll for Slime Rancher?
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>>50224242
Isidoros is a giant Black Hole in the shape of a Boar.
He mostly wanders around looking for parties.
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>>50224141
Not sure how fitting this is, but could we get a generic perk or item that gives us a sort of menacing aura or something? I mean, not anything really super powerful, just something kind of like the [MENACING] thing JoJo villains (and pissed off heroes) have. It seems fitting for a group like the Infernal Exalted.
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>>50224242
Maybe?

Isidoros is described as so huge that he at first didn't even notice the OTHER primordials (you know, those things that are described as having a sea larger than Creation be a bodypart like an arm/hand). Let alone anything else.

His true form is an entire universe of dark matter. He just compresses that into a (still giant) boar-shaped black hole, like an endbringer on steroids.
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>>50224099
You get $1000 dollars a day, and every day you get to buy things from a different shop. Most of these shops have ways to get a bit more money; maybe you have to wash dishes at this one, or wear an embarrassing mascot costume at that one.

All of the things in each shop are priced on the assumption that you only have $1000-$1600/1800 to spend.

One shop though, wants to be special. It decides that spending a little bit of money there should allow you to get an extra $300 at every other shop you visit. Or maybe you should get almost everything for half price at every other shop.

This doesn't end well.

Once it has happened once people, some who may be serious and others who may just want to cause trouble, will try to put this sort of thing in other jumps. They may claim that since their jump only gives an extra $100 it should be allowed, since everyone is already getting $300 from the other shop.

If it does happen, then everyone suddenly can afford everything from every shop ever.

If it doesn't then there's a shop you have to visit early and buy this particular product or you are actively reducing your own buying power.


Now I know that this metaphor isn't perfect, and some people, myself included, just wouldn't use such a cheaty thing, but on the off chance you aren't shitposting I hope this helps you understand why it is a bad idea.

If it doesn't... You'll get a lot of shit even from those that don't normally shitpost.
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>>50224005
The jump says it's 'probably' an exaggeration. Realistically, Digger just put that line there to try and stop certain people in the thread from explosively shitting their pants. Like they are right now.
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>>50224341
The King Is Here kinda already does that (well, more an aura of terror).

But sounds fun. I think I could add something like it to the undiscounted perks, sure.
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>>50224343
>Isidoros’ boar shape, the form in which he strides across the emerald skies of the Demon City, is but a shadow of his true self and his true strength. His core, his fundamental Essence, is a midnight universe so unimaginably vast and heavy that not even Malfeas could bear its weight. When he chooses—which is seldom, for it would smack of vulnerability—his boar shape
becomes a fire-rimmed portal opening onto that incalculable mass. So dense is the dark matter of which Isidoros is made that light quails and turns from it, cloaking his ebon worlds in coronas of ghostly flame.

What is it about the secondary Yozi that makes them so much more badass than the ones in the Reclamation that get all the attention?
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>>50224244
>People with identical accents are the same person.
Retard detected.
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>>50220947
I'm not even sure if this should be a thing at all, but perhaps The All-Hunger needs some cap on what it can safely devour? On the one hand, while the Primordials have shrugged off most everything the infinite+ Wyld threw at them it's assumed that the Abyss is too creepy even for them. On the other hand I recall Malfeas has a charm that lists Solar and Abyssal energy bolts as things he can absorb for motes-which doesn't even have a mote cost. On yet another hand, Malfeas is allegedly supposed to be the greatest Yozi-even though Cecelyne is bigger, Isidoros can shove layers apart etc.
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>>50224380
What are the limits of Compliant Umbral Pano
ply? can you use it to make spikes shoot out of the ground? manifest it as something akin to star platinum only with stats similar to yourself? Video related? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ_bUR4TQy0
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>>50224380
Noice, thanks.
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>>50224453
The bait, anon. Why did you bite it?
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>>50220947
The Reclaimation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYnvDL0Qcw

>>50224420
1. I get the impression someone on the writing team wanted the main 5 to represent how badly mutilated the Primordials are, so some of the others come off as getting a relatively easy sentence

2. Not having as much focus on an actual game means more fluff space to be actually cool cosmic entities instead of bitter losers the fluff keeps reminding you that you should totally slap around with your Solar cock
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>>50224584
That was also bait anon, he is samefagging to fish for (you)s. Did I also bite the bait, is this baitception?
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>>50224479
I'm not Mardukth, but given that it's a canon item I can answer this: It can do all those things. It's a pretty good item. The buff it gives to your shadow constructs isn't too huge, and they're not the most durable thing (though you can regenerate them to full health with a miscellaneous action, so they've got staying power), but your proposed actions are kosher.
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>>50224611
Yes. I've literally been same-fagging every post on this thread since post 75. Anon, it's just me and you here.
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>>50224588
Yeah, that does seem likely. More attention, means more room to show them as decrepit creatures instead of the imprisoned lords of the universe. And being written by committee is certainly a flaw with Infernals content, we all know about that, so it wouldn't surprise me if your first point was true.
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>>50220947
>>50224380

Isn't The All-Hunger perk already mostly accomplished by a Malfeas charm?

Anyway it looks really good.

I'm just depressed that I can't buy almost everything since you have so many awesome options.
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>>50224344
This is probably the most clearly phrased explanation of this arguement I have ever seen. I'm saving it for later.

Thank you, EconomicsAnon.
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>>50224627
okay quick thing Say your jumper is made of shadow and basically does stuff like this already, but since they are opaque shadow They also cast a shadow,which they can also control Thanks to Transformative Wings from Darkstalkers - Warriors of the Night,Would this be a decent boost or is it doing the same thing fundamentally?
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>>50223509
What exactly are Hellstroders? I want to diplomacy them into cooperation to avoid Limit issues
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>>50224459
Hm. Metagaos' thing is kinda devouring everything.

But you are correct, there should be some sort of cap. He eats demons easily, but I don't think he can eat the other Yozi. (even though they don't really go in there, because Metagaos eats everything there and it's not a nice place. Not even for Adorjan.)


>>50224479
>What are the limits of Compliant Umbral Panoply
It cannot make anything magical. The stuff is as durable as stone.

>can you use it to make spikes shoot out of the ground?
Yes. They are used as perfect mundane weapons.

>manifest it as something akin to star platinum
Yes, I think? I don't know my JoJo that well, but a humanoid punching thing can be made easily. But they are not autonomous, and you must use your "actions" to direct it. It'll parry/dodge on its own though.

>only with stats similar to yourself?
Not... entirely. It'll punch with your punching strength+your conviction. It'll parry/dodge as well as you can.

But it's still only as durable as stone. If damaged, you can mend it with an act of will, assuming it hasn't entirely been destroyed.

>video
Yes.


>>50224656
...I. Huh. I could've sworn that Charm only allowed you to disgest organic stuff.

Fuck. Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I'll... give it something else.
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>>50223835
I agree on Neeshka being best waifu holy shit Mask of Betrayer made me so happy she survived
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>>50224459
It seems balanced with the others so far. Honestly, capping it would kind of making it unattractive compared to the other perks. Especially if the Yozi have shown the capacity for similar feats.

And Malfeas is a farcry from Theion, so I wouldn't be surprised if less-fucked-up Yozi could deal with the Abyss.
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>>50220947
>Belt of the Infernal Battle Armor

Welp. I know what Kamen Rider Shoujo is adding to the disaster that is this fucking belt.
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>>50224648
I mean, it's not even so much the quantity of attention imo so much as the direction, especially what Infernals' extra-edgy early chapters ran with, that hurts their PR. Oh, they COULD explore how Malfeas actually does retain the capacity to be a universal overlord and an inherently majestic cultivator of life-but instead let's focus on him being a braindamaged retard who hurts himself and thinks yelling at other people to set him free is a good plan.

Ironically, being designed by committee is also implied to be-and more or less confirmed by certain devs' comments-the main design flaw of the Infernal Exalted. For the Yozis, at least. Later fluff is very, very insistent on how you're totally destined to outshine your old patrons eventually.
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Could I use Gravity Fall's Dream Demon to enact impossible tortures on people?
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>>50224757
I just wish they had completed her Romance route in the original.
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>>50224695
Well, it can do things farther away, since you're casting a shadow instead of outright being a shadow. But other than that, not particularly.
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>>50224797
Same, Justice.

I am taking her as companion
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>>50224718
>What exactly are Hellstriders?
I'm a kinda tired, so I'm just going to copy-paste things. Which probably helps more than what I'd say if I tried to explain this myself right now.

>Hellstriders are unholy amalgams of Malfean metal and living flesh. Externally, a hellstrider looks much like a warstrider. Each appears as a massive suit of armor standing at least 16 feet tall, inset with a hollow chest compartment called the fuselage from which the pilot controls her machine.

>A hellstrider’s creator forges an armature of infernal metals as a skeleton. This armature is hardened in a colossal font of vitriol. The artificer then immerses five living demons of the First Circle in the font, where they merge to form the hellstrider’s tendons and musculature. Various other components are added over a period of months, melding with the demonic flesh and overlaying it with an impregnable armored shell. Even when not in use, a hellstrider possesses a feral grace. Its sinewy body has an organic cast, its limbs fluted and finned like an insect or deep-sea

And why it's going to be hard to diplomance it effectively:

>The patchwork demon heart of a hellstrider seethes with agony that only the magic of its creation may contain. Its maker chooses and applies an appropriate Abscissic binding template during its creation. This template sublimates the hellstrider’s anger and pain into a particular mode of servitude. As the hellstrider accumulates Limit, this artificial mentality starts to break down. Eventually, it suffers a Limit Break, at which point it visibly transforms to reveal its demonic nature.


>>50224778
Heh. Nice.
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>>50224830
>>50224797
Okay, what if...

Neeshka with long hair?
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>>50224840
So it's basically a shorter demon Evangelion?

What if out of jump perks for reducing or taking away pain and agony are used, along with ones for calmness or mental clarity?
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>>50224344
I would have gone with a "You can carry cards between different tables at a casino", but this is a good analogy.
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>>50224718
Okay, so Exalted has these Escaflowne-inspired magitech mecha called Warstriders. Pretty neat stuff, they're treated as armor by the game so you can apply your charms on a larger scale using them. It can be pretty fun. Hellstriders are the Infernal version of Warstriders, and take more inspiration from Evangelion. A Hellstrider is made out of at least five demons (you can keep adding them on for power boosts, but it makes them less stable) whose flesh has been fused together and grown to enormous size through alchemical processes. A First Circle Hellstrider is made of five First Circle Demons, a Second Circle made of a Second Circle and four First Circles (with bonuses if said demons are descended from it) and the extremely rare Third Circle Hellstriders are made from a Third Circle Demon and at least four of its seven component Second Circle souls. They're very powerful, but potential unstable, and Limit is as much a metaphysical response to their bound nature as it is just a measure of their suffering. There are ways to relieve it, but just diplomacy perks wouldn't be enough. Let me get out Infernals, I'll see what the rules for managing Limit are.
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>>50224830
Same.

>>50224857
Could be cute.
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>>50224897
Myr, an interesting idea here.

Let's assume I have "This IS, In fact, my final form" and I have Hybrid from Parasyte. If I make it so my combined alt form has the hybrid's Parasyte bits, can my parasytes thus easily connect to me with no issues because of my hybrid Parasyte bits acting as glue?
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>>50224892
>So it's basically a shorter demon Evangelion?
Pretty much exactly.

It's also got demonic magic powers/Charms instead of AT-Fields, but you get the idea.

>What if out of jump perks for reducing or taking away pain and agony are used, along with ones for calmness or mental clarity?
That would likely help, yes. You'd most likely have to remove/change (depending on how obedient you want it) the Abscissic Binding to give it more freedom, and prevent it from still accumulating stress from its binding... But perks like that seem like it's a great step forward.
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>>50224902
>>50224840
Are the demon souls literally bound to their bodies if their bodies become the muscles and tendons of Hellstrider but the demons still feel agony?
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>>50224952
Creepypasta Combo is where it's at!
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Are there any perks that give me the mindset of an eldritch abomination?
I've got the powers and physiology so far, but I figure it's a bit odd if I still just have the personality of a human.
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>>50219546
I did see your posts.
>tayce t. cook
You use cooking as the method of fusion, but the items themselves do not have to be "cookables". The resultant item is usually a whole new thing, often of the same category as one of the parent items.

>warp pipe plumber
The game is not consistent on that, so i'm just gonna say no.

>badgesmith
someone else posted a reply about it before, but basically they modify or grant combat abilities or modify aesthetics generally. You can easily find examples on the mario wiki.

>Origami curse
of course, it would still take a while to develop those techniques though.

>>50219606
For human racial options I don't know yet. I might have some ideas.

I've been thinking of the alternative for flip. I'll post my write up for it later.

I like origiami world, but that's my deal. Maybe it will be replace, maybe not.
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>>50224902
Okay, looked it up. Hellstriders, like bound demons, comply to the "Abscissic" mechanics. When making one, you pick one of ten templates, though limited by the fact that the central demon of the Hellstrider has to have the template's primary Virtue at a minimum of three dots. Then whenever they act against the type of behavior dictated by the template, they gain Limit, and a sorcerer can lower its Limit by involving the demon (the text implies that there has to be active participation on their part) in activities that reinforce that role. So a demon bound by the Courtesan template would gain Limit when it feels like it's not needed or appreciated, but lose it if its master makes involves it in their scheming or gives it gifts of affection. Or a Hunter would gain Limit when idle and not working, but lose it if given an interesting task to devote its attention to.

>>50224971
Yeah, it's literal. Demons in Exalted, like most spirits, have only a single existence. Their flesh and soul are basically the same thing. They're not materialized souls, though, they have matter that they're made of. Said matter is just a different sort from what the normal universe is made of, that allows it to be simultaneously physical and spiritual. That's why demons make such great ingredients for crafting magic items. You can literally render one of them down using vitriol and extract all sorts of useful soul-organs to embed into your arcanomatrices.
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>Get Horcrux
>Go To Undertale
>Repeatedly kill yourself and revive hundreds of times
>Get free Temmie armor
???
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>>50224971
Demons are basically souls in Exalted, yes. They are spirits, which means they're immaterial in Creation and their body is their soul. Like tiny NGE Angels.

The higher Circles of demons are literally the externalized, independant souls of their progenitor Yozi/3rd Circle.
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>>50225041
the easiest way would just be too take some eldritch abomination backgrounds , but there is also abomination from Dune and judging by how Incomprehensible it may very well do that.
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>>50225065
And then the middle Circle are the externalized, independent souls of the highest Circle The lowest Circle aren't the souls of the middle Circle, though, they're just beings that the other two created.
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>>50225061
>Go to Undertale
>Give tem cool leg fund
>Buy armor with fat stacks of free cash you get in every other jump

Suicide is never the answer, anon. Please seak help.
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>>50225061
You need to spend the CP before you get into the jump, anon.
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If you rigged a squirt gun for infinite ammo (Bayonetta or DMC), and then filled it with the liquid from the Cauldron Vials, would that give you infinite 'shard juice' that is in the vials to use on people?
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>>50225061
You are drastically underestimating the time table for reviving with a horcrux. You could end up in your next jump before reviving after the first suicide.
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>>50225105
>this guy
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>>50225117
Or you could just use the infinite liquid generator from Terraria
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>>50225117
In theory, but each Vial only produces one power. So you'd be giving everyone the same power.
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>>50225105
No, fuck you. Stop pushing your house rules on everyone else.
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Are there any other jumps besides harry Potter I can get a Phylactery or similar item? I know I could make one in some jumps but I'm looking to buy one.
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>>50225065
>>50225059
Can I have the Demons in Hellstrider an avatar body each so when I am not using the Hellstrider they can still do stuff?

Can I make my own template?
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>>50225169
Madoka. Magical Girls are litches in the setting, so just learn how they work their phylacteries.
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>>50221114
They do. In-game dialogue calls them Pokémon from another dimension
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>>50225169
Madoka Magica. It's not recommended to keep it, but technically it's a pylactery.
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>>50225190
Excuse me.

What?
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>>50225181
I don't think that's possible, once you hammer a Demon into an Artifact that's it.
The Yozi/Third Circle can even make a replacement demon if a Second/Third circle was used to make the Artifact.
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>>50225157
No, it doesn't. Canonically, each Vial can produce multiple different effects, as can be seen from the fact that the Siberian and Genesis both took the same formula. Granted, they were related powers, both of them had strong projection-based Master abilities, but there's room for variation. That said, it's meaningless if he's taking the item you can buy with CP. Post-jump, those just give people random superpowers, unrelated to which shards the vial is drawing on.
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>>50225117
If pods were instead a magic companion-turning drink, would doing that let you dupe them and make as many people into companions as you want to?

Alternatively, if you're talking about in-setting cauldron vials: sure, but the odds of you getting someone with a good (or functional) power is rather low, considering you'd probably end up with an uneven mix of formulas. That's how you get your Noelles and Olivers.
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Are there any D&D settings where gods have less restrictions and are more like physical beings that can interact with mortals than some powerful beings in another dimension?
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>>50225198
I am sorry but I refuse on the grounds that not protecting life or souls, if it's possible to redeem them or cooperate with, is not Justice
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>>50225181
Not canonically. You can, however, unleash the Hellstrider on purpose, let it make its own decisions instead of needing to be piloted. If you do that when it's not in Limit Break, it will even be sane and lucid. Shame about the other four demons that went into it, though, it's just the core demon that gets to control the amalgalm. That said, if you were making your own Hellstrider you might be able to build it into them in the process. Hellstriders get access to a limited subset of the charms of the demons that went into making them, chosen at creation, and there is a spirit charm that lets demons project avatar bodies. You might even be able to preserve the minds of the subsidiary souls, allowing them all to make avatars
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>>50225207
No. One of the few rules we retain is that pods are hardcapped unless you housrule like a mofo

Dunno about vials, ask Worm I guess
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>>50224952
Transfer your consciousness into a swarm of clark-tech nanomachines, hide in darkness and then eat people who step into it.

Alternatively use Animorphs to acquire a Vashta Nerada morph, clone a swarm, and then use a sufficiently powerful psychic perk to bend their countless tiny minds to your will.
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>>50225166
What
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>>50225219
Hey man I'm just telling you how it works canonically.
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>>50225117
Probably a bad idea since partially drinking a vial is bad news.
You'd be better off with cheat mode like with most attempts to dupe things.
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>>50225237
if he wants to rule that he spends all the CP in a jump before going through it, that's his prerogative. Nobody else's chain works like that.
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>>50225246
Once you enter a world you can't spend cp anymore.
That's been there since the beginning.
You can't save it for later and buy perks when you need them.
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>>50223607
Overlord

The Fortress City, E-Rantel
20 years old
Local
Birdman 200
Magic Caster
Shared Language
Enhanced Summoning
Magical Powerhouse 300
Alchemist
The Realm of Heroes
Level One Hundred 900
Class Skills, Magic User
Arcane Caster
Divine Caster 950
Spiritualist 1000
Specific Specialisation
Evoker 1100
Summoning 1200
Dark Wisdom 1400
The Ring of Elru 1600
A Local Hero
Leeroy - 17 years old, Human, Local, Warrior, Shared Language 50, Martial Arts Prodigy, Detect Magical Power, The Realm of Heroes, Class Skills, Warrior - Damage Focused, Defense Focused 100, World Champion 400
Rival Guild 1000
Peer of the Sorcerous Kingdom
Royal Crest
Leeroy - Level One Hundred
The Abyss of Magic 1300

And this bird you cannot change, woahohohoh.
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>>50225181
>Can I have the Demons in Hellstrider an avatar body each so when I am not using the Hellstrider they can still do stuff?
They're... pretty permanently melded together. I don't think that'd work. They're still in there (if mostly the core demon) though, so giving it one body might be workable?

Or try something like >>50225231

>Can I make my own template?
Yes. There's more kinds of Bindings than written up in canon (they got lost), the bindings originally codified only cover the overwhelmingly common ways, and Hellstrider Bindings are a little different on account of being a Hellstrider instead of a summoned demon.

So, yes. You can make your own bindings if you know enough about them.
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>>50225277
It's literally in opening to the pokemon jump.
Get fucked son.
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>>50225278
She is so cute, too bad she's a soul of Ted.
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>>50225277
Yes it has. CP doesn't do anything once you actually enter the jump.
The exception is when you get more later from scenarios and such, but that's rather uncommon.
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>>50225287
So? Go get the demon booty.
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>>50225287
A soul of a soul, that's not...too bad. Oh, who am I kidding, yes it is. The Ebon Dragon is the WORST. Remove Dragon! Cleanse Malfeas of his souls! Make this hellish prison dimension great again!
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>>50225278
>>50225231
Then I will do my best to give it the avatar body charm, and do my best to preserve minds of the subsidiary souls.

Out of curiosity, can I make a war strider out of five third circle demons? Or perhaps one four circle and four third circle?

I want to basically offer the demons an amazing multiversal job offer as Warstrider that has the Warstrider issues done away with, freedom most of time and mental space/mansions to spend time in.
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>>50225318
As an Infernal how would you learn the move that allows you to punch everything at once and turn it into whatever you wish? There is a legit way to do this in the game, as a Sidereal or a Solar, I just wanna know how we could do it as an Infernal.
You know for maximum power gaming and all that.
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>>50225341
>Out of curiosity, can I make a war strider out of five third circle demons? Or perhaps one four circle and four third circle?
There is no Fourth Circle, but yes you could make one entirely out of Third Circles. Yozi don't do that because even losing one Third Circle is a massive loss, they aren't going to burn five of them on a single artifact.
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>>50225372
You can't, the essence of an Infernal makes it impossible for them to learn Sidereal Martial Arts, ever.
You'll wanna wait for a Solar or Sidereal jump.
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>>50225387
>a Solar or Sidereal jump.

Behold. The two jumps which will single-handedly cause more shitstorming than any one jumpmaker ever has in their life.
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>>50225387
Damn really. Never knew that... not even the Charm-Stealer Caste?
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>>50225341
Fourth Circle Demons don't exist. The only thing above Third is the Yozi themselves. As for making a Hellstrider entirely out of Third Circles, it's theoretically possible, but given that Third Circles are major pieces of a Yozi's soul they're pretty loathe to give up that many. Even with them regrowing, it can fuck them up pretty bad to sacrifice them, and they only get twenty-three of them at max. Sacrificing over a fifth of their souls at once isn't going to be good for them. I doubt you'd convince any Yozi to give them up. On the other hand, if you become a Devil-Tiger you can make your own Third Circle Demons, and unlike a Yozi those aren't part of your soul (well, they are, but in a much more superficial way), so you could make one out of them just fine.
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>>50225399
Nope, the essence of the Yozi does not mesh well with what you need to do to learn Sidereal Charms, trying to use them would kill you.
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>>50225399
Nope. Primordials aren't the sort of being that can learn the cosmic principles needed to use SMA. They've got their own cosmic principles to play with. On the other hand, that does mean that if that specific "hit things and turn them into whatever you want" effect is what you want, there are actually several paths to it through Cecylene and She Who Lives In Her Name charms.
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>>50225287
Try and get an arrangement like Granalkin's? He's chilling on the moon, and doesn't seem to feel bad even with his progenitor being dead.

>>50225341
>Then I will do my best to give it the avatar body charm, and do my best to preserve minds of the subsidiary souls.
Go for it, anon.

>Out of curiosity, can I make a war strider out of five third circle demons?
Not by canon. The most powerful ones are one 3rd Circle, four+ 3nd Circles.

Any more 3rd Circles, and you'd basically be building an artificial Yozi... except trying to contain too much power/souls would likely explode violently. The Yozis themselves need to externalize their souls too after all.

It /may/ be possible with ridiculous artifice beyond the capabilities of the Yozis themselves.

>Or perhaps one four circle and four third circle?
There is no 4th Circle.

From weakest to stronkest goes 1st>2nd>3rd>Yozi

>I want to basically offer the demons an amazing multiversal job offer as Warstrider that has the Warstrider issues done away with, freedom most of time and mental space/mansions to spend time in.
Cool.

>>50225372
>Sidereal martial arts are not possible to learn for Infernals, Hell’s Chosen lack the native connection to Creation’s principles to access the Blossom of the Perfected Lotus by any means.
Yozi essence does not play well with SMA.
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>>50225435
Well the SWLiHN one is more "kill things and turn them into whatever you want", but you make a fine point none the less.
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>>50225398
Power creep has always been a thing. We have a basically unerfed Disgaea jump now.

Though I feel like the inevitable Dies Irae jump will cause more internet fights, unless the shitposters commit suicide before summer.
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>>50225446
>Not by canon. The most powerful ones are one 3rd Circle, four+ 3nd Circles.
Derp.

The most powerful ones are one 3rd Circle, four+ 2nd Circles.
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>>50225446
But wait how does that mesh with the fact that Obsidian Shards of Infinity is 'an imperfect approximation of the Ebon Dragon's Charms'. I thought I saw that in the Infernals book.
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>>50225452
Yeah, and Date a Live or Seven Deadly Sins jumps would be even worse. Unless the maker severely limited the purchaseable levels of power, which would make it okay.
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>>50225448
SWLiHN has other reality-warping stuff, I was including those. Like, Constructive Convergence of Principles can mutate people, so that can transform people without killing them.
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>>50225398
It wouldn't be so bad if Exaltedfags could write for shit, but they want to use all the setting-based flowery language that only makes sense to other exaltedfags.

So we'll get the pre-clairification shitstorms where people shitstorm about what they think it means. Then we'll get the shitstorms to get the perks clarified so they don't sound like they're written like bad wuxia fanfiction. Then we'll get the shitstorms once we finally get more plain language versions and we know what stupid shit got put in there. Then we'll get shitstorms to get things changed and balanced. Those shitstorms will give way to new shitstorms when the autistic jump makers rewrite the perks in fucktard flowery Exalted language and, BOOM, we're back to square one.

Exalted was a mistake.
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>>50225479
Close. It says that Obsidian Shards of Infinity was inspired by how unfair the Ebon Dragon is in his cheating. So it's emulating his shtick, but not his actual abilities.
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>>50225501
Don't blame Exaltedfags, blame Exalted.
The actual setting is written like that.
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>>50225501
Welp. You're not wrong.
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>>50225501
You can say much the same about any setting with powerful magic. Like, for example, does Fate's bullshit about "crystallization of mysteries" actually mean anything? No, of course not, it's just a fancy way to say "the powers are based on their legends". But by god, that won't stop people from taking those terms and running with them to crazytown.
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>>50225504
Ah okay then. I misremembered what I read then. Can we make Ebon Dragon Charms that are functionally eqa... oh yeah the can't make custom charms above Essence 5 rule...Ah well.
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>>50225452
>>50225491
Yeah, and soon we'll get nearly unerfed Exalted. Remember in the olden days when people were reasonable and added nerfs like stuff to Asura's Wrath? There's literally no reason for jumpers to be able to attain protagonist-level power.
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>>50225501
You shouldn't jump settings that you aren't knowledgeable or at least interested in.
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>>50225538
Well, you're not entirely out of luck. Don't forget that Yozi charms often have "at Essence X+, you may repurchase this charm to get a huge upgrade to it" written in there somewhere. So you could make a weak low Essence charm that upgrades at high Essence to emulate Obsidian Shards.
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>>50225501
Yeah, glad to hear its not just me. The only readable Exalted jump is the dragonblood one. The others have thier heads up thier own asses like 14 year olds who just discovered Lovecraft
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>>50225540
Exalted isn't nerfed. The perfect clause is canon to dreams of the first age.
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>>50225546
Part of the purpose of a jump is to provide enough information to capture the important parts of a setting and get people interested in it.
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>>50225571
No it's not. Stop being such an entitled whiner, jumpmakers have no responsibility to pre-chew and spoonfeed you the setting.
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>>50225569
Yeah, right. Because something in a street level setting should allow you to tank attacks from Darkseid and other planet-busters. Okay, anon.
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>>50225546
Oh fuck off. The whole point of a jump maker is to create something that anyone can pick up, read, and jump. Don't enable lazy jump making.

>>50225535
Only not really. Sure, the settings have bullshit in-setting specific prose but the Exalted jumps are horrible for translating things so that the lay reader can understand.

Fuck, it's not even like you have to make it readable for a complete normie. You can use genre and game'ish shorthand for things. We just don't see that in the Exalted jumps.
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>>50225599
You should not have to read all the lore for a jump to take the jump. All of the early jumps take this into account. Hell, good jumps in general do.
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Reminder that the shitposter has a grudge against exalted. Stop taking his bait.
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>>50225604
>>50225571
You sound like a powerwanker who's mad that he can't just skim the pdf and find the most powerful combos with no effort.
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>>50225603
Exalted isn't street level anymore than DC is street level.
But now you've shifted the goalposts so far I'm not actually sure what the argument is anymore.
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>>50225599
Okay, anon. So what you're saying is that jumps should all be personality-less powergrabs that disrespect the settings their based on, and turns everyone off from a setting they may enjoy.

Yeah, no. Fuck you. You should be able to get a good idea of what a setting's about by reading a decent jump. Now, that's not to say that I agree with the other anon that Exalted jumps are unreadable, but just in general it's true.
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This thread sucks, I want a refund. Who was holding onto the receipt?
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>>50225626
Please. I just want to be able to jump something without having to spend ages researching it. Hell, a jump that gives a good overview of the setting makes newbies more interested in learning more.

That's how and why I started reading 40k and why I played the Tonelico games.
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>>50225604
>Only not really. Sure, the settings have bullshit in-setting specific prose but the Exalted jumps are horrible for translating things so that the lay reader can understand.
Fair enough. I'm willing to consider that I've too familiar with the context to be objective about comprehensibility, here. It reads sensibly to me, but maybe I'm just too used to that writing style. Hell, I used to read Jenna Moran's writing blog back when she was still Rebecca Borgstrom, I'm probably a lost cause for purposes of this discussion.
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>>50225538
Even aside that, probably not really? There's a large gap between "being a thing" and "practising a martial art inspired by a thing".

You could do similar-ish things, but not really 'functionally equal' stuff.

Like, the Obsidian Shards Form lets you break into shards and reform a bit further away in responce to attack. Ebby's Bloodless Murk Evasion lets you dissolve into shadow and reform a bit further away in responce to attack.
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>>50225621
Agreed. You should be able to jump a jump with just the doc. If you need to ask the thread some questions, that's fine, but you shouldn't be completely lost in the sauce because it uses nothing but game-specific terms and prose.
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>>50225627
Have you considered that there are several different arguments occurring at once?
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>>50225650
Me. It's in my other pants... Which I just realised I put through the wash. My bad.
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>>50225650
Me? I thought it was you!
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>>50225650
It got burnt like vault dwellers capacity to feel
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>>50225650
After this thread dies just let it stay dead for a little while I guess.
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>>50225671
So it is or is not possible? Keeping this >>50225565 in mind.
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>>50222947
> tfw I happily drink four day old coffee in real life

>>50223607
Sure thing, anon!

Overlord
> Age: 18 [Rolled3]
> When: Overlord [Rolled1]
> Background: Fallen Hero [-200CP]
> Stamina of a Warrior [-100CP]
> Dark Diplomancy [Get a Freebie!]
> Uplifting [-100CP]
> Golden Tongue [-300CP]
> Evil Power [-300CP]
> Flag of the Overlord [Get a Freebie!]
> Overlord Gear [Get a Freebie!]
> Ruined Tower [Get a Freebie!]
> Minion Hive: Brown [Get a Freebie!]
> Basic Minions [Get a Freebie!]
> Minion Master: Blue [Get a Freebie!]

During the events of Overlord, I mostly sided with the titular Overlord, although I did take a momentary detour to save Goldo and most of the dwarves. Mostly by convincing them to formally ally with the Overlord.
I always thought it was kindof a raw deal that elves got to live while the dwarves went extinct.

Anyway, the events of the first game and its expansion constitute, like, a year and a half tops. And I'm here for ten. So that means that it wasn't long before the Overlord got trapped in hell, canonically. Which left a noticeable power gap.
So I stole the Tower Heart and squirreled it away in my warehouse after that, because who's going to stop me? Technically I'm an Overlord, too!

Later on this elf came sniffing around the tower (which I'd abandoned by then), looking for it, and I opted to help him out instead.
Together we made these magical suction devices to steal magic. I'm sure it'll turn out fine.


This is what you meant, right?
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>>50225658
Yeah, I'm not saying the settings don't work as jumps. It's just that for the sake of authenticity or artistic endeavor or whatever, it seems like the jump makers won't translate it into something resembling plain speech. It's really irritating because it seems like people like those settings and I want in on the fun, but there's a barrier for entry that I'm not willing to invest in. Other jumps don't do that, I don't get why Exalted jumps do.

Hell, LOVECRAFT is readable and HP is often picked on by randos for being unreadable.
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>>50225625
Multiple people have a grudge against Exalted.
Or more specifically, fucking WHITE WOLF.
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>>50225728
Stop trying to pretend you're multiple people.
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>>50225728
Even people that like White Wolf RPGs fucking hate White Wolf.
Worst company.
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>>50225747
>Worst company
>When EA exists
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>>50225699
>>50225650
I get that response. I do. But like others i want to jump these jumps but the jumps, with the exception of Dragonblooded, are damn near unreadable with as heavily as they rely on lore specific prose and nomenclature.

I get if you dont want to weigh in because of jump maker solidarity, but please don't dismiss the objection / frustration.
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>>50225723
The jump with most flowery language that I can think of is Through the Looking Glass, and even then it is polite enough to explain in the notes what shit does.
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>>50225728
I think the setting is neat, I just don't get what Exalted is trying to say half the time. It's like reading Shakespearian English for the first time, only this time there's even less context and no teacher or in text citation to explain things.

>>50225744
Not just him ddue.
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>>50225792
No. All of you are a single anon trying to kill JumpChain.
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Can someone post the response again? Obviously didn't work last time.
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>>50225723
>>50225792
Yeah, other setting like 40k and stuff have some language you can use for context. Psykers sound like Psionics and the like.

Exalted is straight left field though and asking for clarifications is like pulling teeth.
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>>50225811
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the shitposter.

t. shitposter
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>>50225792
I find reading an exalted quest is a good way to learn some of the lingo since you get to see it in action.
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>>50225700
No. But you can do things somewhat resembling them?

The context for the similar examples is that the Obsidian Shards one is /free/ (but one-per-action) as long as you have the Form active, while the Ebby one costs almost as much and needs to be activated every single time.

Also, the other effects of the Form like getting your disarmed weapon back if you still have the other half of paired blade, isn't something Ebby can do. They probably wouldn't entirely fit, as he doesn't really have much connection with weapons.


So you may be able to approximate something that looks like it, for some or a bunch of Charms in Obsidian Shards. But fundamentally they'd be Ebon Dragon Charms and that means it just does not do some things (or does them weirdly).
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>>50225813
Fuck off. There are other people who feel like this and we're finally talking about it. I want to jump these jumps but other than Dragonblooded its damn near impossible due to the way the jumos use prose.
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How can you see into my eyes like open doors?
Leading you down into my core where I've become so numb
Without a soul my spirit's sleeping somewhere cold
Until you find it there and lead it back home

(Wake me up)
Wake me up inside
(I can't wake up)
Wake me up inside
(Save me)
Call my name and save me from the dark
(Wake me up)
Bid my blood to run
(I can't wake up)
Before I come undone
(Save me)
Save me from the nothing I've become

Now that I know what I'm without
You can't just leave me
Breathe into me and make me real
Bring me to life

(Wake me up)
Wake me up inside
(I can't wake up)
Wake me up inside
(Save me)
Call my name and save me from the dark
(Wake me up)
Bid my blood to run
(I can't wake up)
Before I come undone
(Save me)
Save me from the nothing I've become

Bring me to life
(I've been living a lie, there's nothing inside)
Bring me to life

Frozen inside without your touch
Without your love, darling
Only you are the life among the dead

All this time I can't believe I couldn't see
Kept in the dark but you were there in front of me
I've been sleeping a thousand years it seems
Got to open my eyes to everything
Without a thought, without a voice, without a soul
Don't let me die here
There must be something more
Bring me to life

(Wake me up)
Wake me up inside
(I can't wake up)
Wake me up inside
(Save me)
Call my name and save me from the dark
(Wake me up)
Bid my blood to run
(I can't wake up)
Before I come undone
(Save me)
Save me from the nothing I've become

Bring me to life
(I've been living a lie, there's nothing inside)
Bring me to life
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So, since my brain is still too awake to be capable of writing properly, I thought I would ask what are some things people want to see in the Paper Mario jump?

Hit me with any suggestions or ideas you all have!
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>>50222880

Hot damn. Well if that's intentional, is there anywhere to fuse that belt with any of the actual Kamen Rider belts available?

I want to see how much of an abomination my Driver can become.
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>>50225840
There's nothing stopping you from jumping any of the exalted jumps.
If you don't get how things work either ask or look it up yourself.
This isn't hard, and if a dumbass like me can figure them out the only thing stopping you is a lack of caring.
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>>50225830
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check that out. It doesn't change the fact, though, that the jumps are really, really cumbersome for someone who isn't familiar with the setting. I just don't get it. Other jumps are written for the lay jumper, but damn near all the Exalted jumps refuse to do that.
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>>50225650
I'm usually pretty naive about these things and tend to give these threads the benefit of the doubt.

But yeah, even I have to admit that this thread is dogshit.
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>>50225723
>It's just that for the sake of authenticity or artistic endeavor or whatever, it seems like the jump makers won't translate it into something resembling plain speech.

I'll raise my hand because I'm guilty of this, but often the threshold for comprehension is a lot different from the level of fluff which actually introduces in the setting and the lore properly.

If you wash things out enough to ensure that full comprehension is attained, often you might as well just give up on fluff, since the inclusion of any amount of fluff can lead to somebody misinterpreting it. The accommodations to be made can borderline on handholding, with the simplification of language down to absolute minimums in order to ensure understanding. Mib/Reborn's original perks were perfect as far as comprehension goes, because a lot of them were just "You can lift 200lbs" or "You are immortal", and that was it.

And of course, often people hate fluff being added, not only because it makes things convoluted for them, but they don't like having to read paragraphs and would prefer the "You can do X. You can do Y" format - which is clean and simple. Finding the balance between the two "extremes" is difficult, made worse when the IP in question is either obscure, vague, or requires a bit of constructive interpretation.

So really it's luck of the draw on whether the IP you like is taken by a jumpmaker whose style you can tolerate. But if the jumpmaker has already made the jump, well, regardless of whether it's irritating or not to you, it's kind of a moot point, yah?
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>>50225840
That was in response to the powerwanking shame list guy, not exalted. I understand that and agree it needs a lexicon or something. Or less flowery prose, but since that helps set the tone of the jumps I'd settle for a translation section.
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>>50225864
Do you do that? Yeah. But you do the jumper the courtesy, in some if not all your jumps, of putting a section in the back where you describe, in plain language, what does what. If other jump makers did that, I wouldn't complain about fluff and prose at all. Hell, it'd be kinda neat to flip between the two to figure things out like that. The problem is that there isn't anything like that.

Thanks for weighing in though.
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>>50225857
Neo-Heisei Part 2 has an import option that lets you fuse transformation devices, gotten from elsewhere or bought in the jump itself. Also lets you upgrade to use one of the setting's power sources.

I'm gonna probably end up putting all of my budget once I get there into that to combine all my shit desu.
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>>50225870
Okay? Are you seriously going to sit here and claim that powerwankers are human beings?
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>>50225857
Maybe? I honestly don't know if any of the Kamen Rider jumps offer some option compatible with it.

Though. If I do decide to go with this: >>50224008
>maybe I'll put a note in that you could hand a weapon over to be reforged with the extra capabilities by him?

Then I'd maybe include that for stuff like the belt too? I dunno.
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>>50225870
Alright. I apologize then. I'm just frustrated because theres a conversation about the Exalted jumps thats ALMOST happening and because of the shitposter it probably wont happen.

Hell, i agree on a lexicon or whatever. If you dont want to tone down the flowery language just put some notes in the jump like other people do. Just list what things do.
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>>50225844
I'd like to see a Quick Change badge in the item section that lets you swap out companions super fast without needing to go to the warehouse.

Maybe something for tattleing if that's not already in there.
star rod up for purchase when?
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>No (You)
Yes, I do think powerwankers are human beings, they just play a single player imagination game differently. Also you need better bait.
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>>50225864
I know your deal is to bag on yourself, but you address this without being asked. You put in small sections after the drawbacks where you rattle off what does what. So I get it but you don't do that.
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>>50225919
Quick change is a good idea I think.

Tattleing is part of the sidekick perk tree.

No It's a little much for my taste.
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>>50225927
Maybe you should go to bed, Timmy.
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>>50223607
I think it was something like:

>Mage
>Local
>Angel (-300)
>Level 100 (-900)
>Friends with the Devil (-1000)
>The Shared Language thing (-1050)
>All the mage class perks (-1200)
>Warding Specialization (-1300)
>Foreigner (-1200)
>Embroiled in politics (-1000)
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>>50225927
>I do think powerwankers are human beings

Clearly we think on different levels.

For you see...

I REJECT MY HUMANITY, JOJOOOOOO!
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>>50225890
Yeah but...you have to understand that, like a lot of things that I do (scenarios, synth items, drawback variations), even the notes are optional, and are in no way obligations for a jumpmaker to include.

The fact of the matter is that for a lot of people, writing large amounts is difficult. Once they've finished writing in a "style", and say the jump is complete, there's no real incentive to go back. Heck, there's no real incentive to write a lot to begin with. To a lot of people, anything more than 10 pages is cumbersome, so when people want to make a "good" jump, some people will avoid putting in length to keep their jumps accessible, and ensure that they'll get more people taking it. Chances are, if a person looks at a 200 page jump, they'll be more inclined to just go "nope" and turn away. You find freaks like me who make jumps largely for themselves, so we don't really care if people take our jumps at all, and that's when you start finding freakish jumps with convoluted language or extreme lengths - both of which weight down on ease of use.

For a lot of people there's an added layer of consideration that's usually ignored, because when the jumpmaker writes the perk, they have a sort of "instinctive understanding" of what it's supposed to do. Things that are understood to the jumpmaker aren't necessarily clear to others - but that's generally why you have C&C sessions once the jump reaches a ready to edit state.

I don't think that we necessarily need jump makers to go and put in editing notes. It's an additional burden to a lot of people, especially those who design perks on the spot in fluff. It'd be nice for jumpmakers and their audiences to have a bit better understanding of one another, but most of our threads don't generally involve that, as far as I've seen.
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So I'm kind of new to Jumpchain and I have two questions.

1. Is there anyway to get more points for a jump besides drawbacks?

2. What are the current "End Jumps" ?
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>>50225954
How many breads have you eaten in your life?

>>50225969
Some Scenarios offer points, but other than that no.

I honestly do not remember.
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>>50225969
1. No. with the exception of some scenarios.

2. Dragon Ball, Tenchi Muyo, Gurren Lagaan, Heroic Age (?), uuuuuuhhhh I don't remember the rest off hand
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>>50225969
1) Not really.

2) DBZ, Tenchi Muyo, Devil Surviver 2, Darksiders, Heroic Age, technically Bomberman, and 40k Freelancer.
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>>50225968


Can you link me to your drive or can someone else do it please? and do all the companions in Dragon warriors count as a single companion in the scenario?
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>>50225917
>Alright. I apologize then. I'm just frustrated because theres a conversation about the Exalted jumps thats ALMOST happening and because of the shitposter it probably wont happen.
I've been lurking here since somewhere around thread 200 to 300, I just started writing jumps late. A tiny shitstorm isn't going to stop me now.

>>50225870
>>50225890
>>50225917
Anyway, that said, I was already thinking of a lexicon-ish thing in the notes after people said some stuff was a bit confusing with the fluff.

Might as well go through with that then.
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>>50225896
>>50225900

>mfw I can combine the Infernal Belt with my Lost Driver, then stack the Eternal Memory on top of that.
>the Eternal Memory I've been steadily boosting in the Item World since Disgaea
>plus the boost from The Unlosing Jumper

ENJOY YOUR STAY IN HELL, BECAUSE IT'S NEVER ENDING!
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is the skullman jump in the drive? I didnt find it
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>>50226008
N-Z, it's under 'The' due to the file title being 'The Skullman'
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>>50225446
What if I use a Yozi for my Hellstrider? Sorry, Exalted is a giant mess I don't know how to sort through
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>>50225927
When should you apply Endjump status? When you have massive power-levels like in Dies Irae or Seven Deadly Sins, do you just nerf the jumper, or prevent them from going to the setting at all unless taken as an Endjump?
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>>50226022
Pretty sure that's impossible
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Tell me anons, what are soul oriented jumps? On a similar note what are some demon oriented jumps?
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>>50226023
You leave JumpChain for having shitty-ass thoughts like that.
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>>50225844
I want to reiterate my argument that I think the flipping perk should let you enter a higher spacial dimension post-jump, as opposed to giving you postcog.

Also, maybe a "Mustachioed" racial perk for humans.
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>>50225968
I'm not saying that it should be a hard requirement. Lord knows I don't want some kind of bullshit style manual for jump making. Creativity is great and has lead us to some really neat jumps.

However, Exalted isn't intuitive in the least. Other jumps with specific language have in setting analogues for familiar concepts that can be puzzled out contextually. Exalted really is its own animal in that respect, and I get that people making those jumps want to do the setting justice. I think that's neat. I just think that if you're going to do that you should take into consideration that not everyone has months or years of Exalted experience to draw on.

One of the things I enjoy about jumpchain is that it gives me neat things, IPs and worlds, to explore. Exalted just stands apart because it seems like the jump makers, and some of the folk in thread, maybe trolls maybe not, want to keep it this exclusive thing where you need to go off and read lore books and whatever to get the jump. That's unique for jumpchain. Most jump makers go out of their way to explain things, in some manner, so it's a good way to get a tasting menu of that setting.

I'd just like to be able to give Exalted a look, because it seems like it generates a lot of traffic pro and con. The way the jumps are written though, with the exception of Dragonblooded, which is balances setting tone and readability, it's just a nut roll trying to get through the Exalted jumps.
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>>50225939
Oddly though I did that just so I could put more fluff into the perk text themselves.

>>50225969
>1. Is there anyway to get more points for a jump besides drawbacks?
It depends on the jump/jumpmaker, so you should probably just check with each jump. They'll normally specify if there's additional ways to gain CP.

>>50225988
I didn't do dragon warriors though anon, so I dunno. I don't...have a single jump that's under 20 pages in length unfortunately. The length and the formatting style is generally how you can tell a jump isn't mine.

I've got some projects ongoing, so I'm not really convenienced to drop a link to my own drive. Somebody else apparently has been grabbing my courtesy dumps though.
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This is probably an old question by now but... I'm looking at the Skullgirls jump and the the cyborg perk doesn't seem that great (more of a drawback really). So is the implication that the cyborg body is permanent? Usually I'd just fanwank that it's an altform or whatever, but the fact that this jump has the skullgirl perk which enacts permanent drawbacks, so I have my doubts.
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>>50226038
Before I finish the perks section I will include a write up for that version of Flip for people to weigh in on.

"Mustachioed" is an amazing suggestion. I feel dumb for not thinking of it myself.
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>>50226021
thanks
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>>50226001
Im not worried about the jumps not happening, famalam. Im worried about not having a conversation about how opaque the jumps are because people are claiming its shitposting.

Its not. Im just really frustrated.
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>>50226001
>Might as well go through with that then.
Thanks, man.
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>>50226029
Alrighty.

Are Hellstriders providing a boost to pilot's stats or does the pilot simply use Hellstrider stats? I recall there being mention of them boosting stats by two pips in thread
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>>50226022
At that point, it's not really a Hellstrider anymore. It's probably also impossible.

Also, good luck trying. The smallest Yozi is a 50 miles long dragon, so you're gonna need one hell of a huge Vitriol bath. And all of them are stupidly powerful and probably going to be violently opposed to the idea.

>>50226073
Ah, fair enough. Misinterpreted that.

>>50226085
No problem.
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>>50226032
So, then the solution is either to A) not make jumps of the setting or B) nerf the jumper so the rest of the chain isn't trivialized.

Those two examples are worse than Overlord in terms of how they make you unable to be defeated.
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>>50226090
You use its Strength score and armor value. The other stats are your own.
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>>50226112
Nah. There's a middle ground possible.
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>>50226090
>Are Hellstriders providing a boost to pilot's stats or does the pilot simply use Hellstrider stats?
They're basically used as huge armor, except you use the Hellstrider's strength score. So, mostly your stats.

But you can 'unfetter' them, in which case the Hellstrider will use its own stats to do whatever the pilot wants.

>I recall there being mention of them boosting stats by two pips in thread
That's the power armor/kamen rider infernal thing, not the helltech mechas.
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GHQ Jump now is taking requests for Items. So /JC got any requests?
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>>50226030
Dark/Demons Souls does both.
Anima and Evangeleon have cool soul stuff.
As does Undertale and Dresdin Files.
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>>50226112
A) should never be an option.

We would miss half of the settings out there that aren't PSP minigames.
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>>50226131
>middle ground

The middle ground that allows you powerwankers to keep gaining control.
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>>50226131
Nerf you post-jump, but allow access to full power in the setting.
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>>50226139
Spirit fruits.

Ghost Furniture. Ghost clothes. Ghost marble
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>>50226154
nah

>>50226156
sure, that could work,
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Can you possess an NGE style Angel? I mean, could I use a possession perk (for example, the one from Creepypasta) to possess Lilith or ADAM's soulless body?
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>>50226170
aren't their whole bodies souls?
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>>50226131
This is true: >>50226154

Note how Lost Odyssey was accepted to the drive.
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>>50226133
Are Hellstriders really that strong to be worth it, then? I don't have player stats to compare them to.

Are Yozi basically demon gods or what even?
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>>50226156
That's just taking the piss on people.
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I don't even know who's shitposting who anymore.
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>>50226181
I don't think anyone but SJ-chan was really happy with Lost Odyssey.
Having unlimited 1-ups for basically free is nuts.
Has anyone even made a build for it?
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>>50226156
We already have Sonichu, SMT, Asura's Wrath, Bayonetta, and D&D. Anything else is just window dressing.

Actually that reminds me. You could just have the jumper start weaker like Bayonetta did and train up to higher power-levels.
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>>50226180
Well, they're supposedly made of something called LCL, and their souls morph the LCL to form a body. I don't know man, NGE is weird. I mean, DNA is literally an illusion made by the soul or something, at a certain point you just stop asking questions in order to maintain your sanity.
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>>50226211
Yeah, thats the point where I usually just yell "Metaphysics!", shrug, and accept it.
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>>50226204
Something something when everyone is the shitposter, no one will be something something.
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>>50226163
>Spirit Fruit.
Way ahead of ya on that.

>Ghost Furniture. Ghost clothes. Ghost marble
Would you like them separate from the Device that allows you to make them?
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>>50226207
>Having unlimited 1-ups for basically free is nuts.
What? You mean the "Immortal" perk that does what most healing factors can? The best HFs are basically already unlimited one-ups already.
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>>50226237
Nah, a device is good.

What about good ol' Yatas 100% organic lesser hollow meat?
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>>50226229
I know exactly what you mean man. All aboard!
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>>50226246
>Nah, a device is good.
Cool because that's gonna be Scientiests 200.

>What about good ol' Yatas 100% organic lesser hollow meat?
100/Freebie.
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>>50226229
No, anon. For you see: When everyone is the shitposter, everyone will be.
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>>50226139
Hougyoku magic 8-ball?
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>>50226274
Any suggestions on how to not make that broken as fuck?
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>>50226139
A collection of cool masks.

I honestly know nill about GHQ but i am vaguely familiar with bleach and would love a collection of "trophy" masks from slain hollows.
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>>50226208
>Bayonetta

And more shitposting in three...
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>>50226293
Sure thing Skull Slime. I could make that a 200 for Soldiers.
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>>50226239
So long as your body isn't totally destroyed you can recover from anything.
Be it getting your soul torn out and eaten to getting smacked down with instant death effects.
Healing factors rely on biology and don't help much when it's not physical anymore. Like being conceptually killed.
Well with the exception of waveform biology, but that's weird shit.
It's just plain better than every regen perk for survivability and at worst you're out of comission for 5 minutes instead of hours to years.
The only reason it's not completely broken in every way possible is because it doesn't actually kick in until you die.
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>>50226291
...I mean, a magic 8-ball that looks like the plot stone. You know, as a joke item.

...or is this is a joke about magic 8-balls being broken as fuck? I dunno.
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>>50225983
>Some Scenarios offer points, but other than that no.
Where can I find these scenarios?
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>>50226291
He said magic 8-ball.

So maybe a Hogyoku looking sphere that behaves like a magic 8-ball and gives vague answers. Or a stronge version where it slightly raises a chance of something happening depending on what it is or/and power you give to the ball. Like if you want it to rain tommorow, asking it gives you a 10% higher chance of it happening.

Or perhaps it gives a power boost limited to white skin thing, purple fire and dunno what more. Like Butterfly Aizen/Hao. Or makes your body be entirely as if made of one tissue?

Or just a slight power boost? Or just it works as what it worked like in canon. Let's you modify Arrancars as they are made or dissolve barriers between Shinigami and hollow powers
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>>50226294
No, anon. Shitposting can only exist if you believe in it, if you fear it. If you don't give them power, they can't hurt you.
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>>50226329
In the specific jump documents that have them.
They're not universal. So the only way to get more points for a jump is within the jump itself.
Unless you're willing to just straight up cheat with the Space Battles idea of "challanges"
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>>50226133
How does Exalted bullshit compare against SMT bullshit?
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>>50226329
Most jumps don't have them. If they do they'll be in the jump itself. Sometimes just before drawbacks, sometimes just after the normal ending stuff.
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>>50226351
Rather poorly. As mentioned earlier, Exalted is mainly street-level with only the absolute top tiers being any higher.
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>>50226323
>>50226334
> Magic 8-ball.
Ah, funny Plot-Rock... I'll toss it in as a undiscounted 50 pointer.

>Upgrades
Well if you willing to throw points at it I could make it be the thing you pour points into to get more points in the Powers Supplement. How's that sound?
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>>50226351
In one single question you have given me more reason to hate you over every other motherfucker in this thread.
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None of you are reporting him.
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>>50226346
Bullshit. It's not what you believe, it's what everyone else believes that matters.
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>>50226183
>Are Hellstriders really that strong to be worth it, then? I don't have player stats to compare them to.
It depends. Probably not if you're stacking physical strength perks? But in Exalted itself they're pretty stronk.

Like. max human potential strength is 5. Max base strength of the most powerful Exalts is 10. Hellstriders are usually around 11 to 15 atleast, depending on which demons are used. They wield 30-feet tall hunks of superheavy metal as melee weapond. It's... more of a exponential scale than a linear one? Though for some things it is linear...

Anyway, they're superhumanly skilled too. So unfettering them for something they're good at isn't a bad idea.

Also, there's the magic powers (Charms) that the demon it was created from had. Which helps too.


>Are Yozi basically demon gods or what even?
Not... quite. They're a bit more than that.

3rd Circle Demons are considered about equal to the most powerful gods in Exalted in-universe. One of them is a literal green sun.

The Yozis are the imprisoned Primordials/Titans who literally created reality. Their bodies are usually entire worlds, and they're considered much, much more powerful than their 3rd Circle demons.
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>>50226384
No, but what you believe determines if you bite the bait.
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>>50226383
He either is, or is friends with, a Janitor. People who report him have gotten warnings or bans.
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>>50226380
Maybe. That also gives me idea.

Special powers discounted or available if you got the Hogyoku from CP?

Actually, can't Hogyoku just be a capstone/racial/whatever booster? With special stuff available if you have it like in Boktai
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>>50226419
Because it's against the rules to abuse the report function.
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>>50226380
Considering its involvement in the creation of Arrancar?

...That's pretty good.
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>>50226412
>>50226183
>Like. max human potential strength is 5. Max base strength of the most powerful Exalts is 10. Hellstriders are usually around 11 to 15 atleast,

I feel the need to note that the strength is not such that 10 is twice as strong as 5, it's not linear growth. 10 is much much stronger than 5
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>>50226413
Elves are for lewd, not bait.
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>>50226208
Bullshit. Fucking mooks in Seven Deadly Sins can level mountain tops-plural in a single swing.
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>>50226419
Janitors can't issue bans, dumbfuck.
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>>50226445
>It's... more of a exponential scale than a linear one?
...b-but I did note that?

Still, if it wasn't obvious, pointing it out again can't hurt.
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>>50226412
Huh. This really makes it hard to determine power of setting considering what people say about general exalted power level, fuck.

Then Hellstriders are stronger than the demons used in their creation?

How does this Devil Tiger you mentioned and people keep bringing up compare? What even is it
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>>50226419
He's been getting banned lately. Just try.
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>>50226431
>>50226443
>Considering its involvement in the creation of Arrancar?
>...That's pretty good.
Cool I work it up.

>Special powers discounted or available if you got the Hogyoku from CP?
Maybe a few.

>Actually, can't Hogyoku just be a capstone/racial/whatever booster?
I'll see if I can swing it but it's going to be either the Undiscounted or Drop-In Item 600.
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>>50226023
>Seven Deadly Sins,
What? Isn't that just a standard Shounen?
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>>50226478
>Huh. This really makes it hard to determine power of setting considering what people say about general exalted power level, fuck.
Yup.

Fuck, I've been playing it for years and I probably couldn't give you too solid of an answer.

>Then Hellstriders are stronger than the demons used in their creation?
Yes. They get a bonus for just /being/ a Hellstrider (+1 to 5 depending on their Valor score, and +2 for 2nd circle, +4 for 3rd Circle), and then depending on what other demons are used (do you use stronk ones?) their strength can increase even further


>How does this Devil Tiger you mentioned and people keep bringing up compare? What even is it
Short answer is that a Devil Tiger is a powerful Infernal going "fuck you Yozis, imma be my own Primordial". They'll then be able to make magic powers (Charms) based on a theme they invented themselves instead of simply using the Yozi's magic powers/Charms.

And other goodies like make their own 3rd/2nd/1st Circles of demons, and a world inside their souls.

Anyway, they have less raw power than a Yozi, but much more versatility and freedom to do whatever they want.
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>>50226329
Overlord and X-Men Movies are all I can think of at the moment.
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>>50226452
What settings have floppy eared elves? They are my favorite kind of elves.
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>>50226561
A standard shown where fucking Redshirts can level multiple mountain-tops in a single stroke, yes.
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>>50226478
Basically the primordials are like the protogenos of greek myth in that they're the physical embodiment of a concept. Yozi are the primordials who were imprisoned by the Solars and basically are very bitter about that. Infernal Exalted are people who have been given a fraction of their power and can use abilities related to the nature of the given yozi. Triumphant Howl of the Devil Tiger is a charm that lets you change the source of your abilities to a new yozi that you design (they don't exist, it means that you get to choose a new concept to base your abilities on). Devil Tigers also have their souls altered to become inner worlds that reflect the nature of their new yozi.
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>>50226587
How is that different from Naruto or Bleach. Mountain busting is laughable at the end of those.
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>>50226587
What's the top showing by a character then?
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>>50226023
Since when are Seven Deadly Sins even close to Dies Irae in power level? It's not even on the level of Naruto.
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>>50226606
Being able to counter, full stop, any magical ability ever.
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>>50225844
Hey Skull, is there an age roll for Slime Ranchers?
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>>50226573
>make their own 3rd/2nd/1st Circles of demons, and a world inside their souls.

Wait, make them? So what exactly are demons? What do they mean to Yozi
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>>50226640
I have not included an age roll in any of my jumps. It's something that I don't really care for all that much. So just don't worry about that in my jumps.
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>>50226617
I'm pretty sure Meliodas has had trouble cancelling attacks before.
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>>50226592
Greek, eh?

Good thing I podded Kratos. Time to let him loose in Exalted.
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>>50226606
Meliodas destroys a whole city at one point. This guy you're talking to is massively exaggerating the series. It's not really worse then any of the other shounen anime and a fair bit weaker then a few too.
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>>50226573
Sorry to partially hijack the Devil Tiger question, but

Has it ever been successfully completed? At all?
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>>50225969
2.
>Dragon Ball Z
>Warhammer 40k: Freelancer
>Gurren Lagann endgame scenario
>Tenchi Muyo endgame scenario
>Darksiders endgame scenario
>Heroic Age endgame scenario
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>>50226573

What are these themes exactly? Like what are the Yozis theme's and how far can you push those in creating charms?
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Speaking of SDS, is anyone working on a jump for it?
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>>50226718
Not that I know of. I'd love to see one though, it's a cool series.
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>>50226643
Yes, make them.

Demons are the externalized, independant souls of Yozis.

When an infernal who went Devil Tiger makes his own demons, he is literally creating new, external demon-souls that are kinda part of him in the sense that they are his souls, but independant beings on their own too.


>>50226677
Nope. The infernals are really new (3-ish years at the oldest IIRC), and without rushing up in Essence it'd take atleast 100 years before they'd be able to start the process.

It's not even discovered to be possible in-universe.


>>50226702
Malfeas is the Demon City. He's made from brass and basalt, and his heart is a radioactive green sun.

He HATES.

And he's the best dancer amongst the Yozi.

So, he has charms about being really tough, about radioactive fire, about raging, about dancing.

Let me quote his excellency to give you an idea, in my next post.
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>>50226656
Alright then. I guess I'll just assume we start at 16.
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>>50226734
So demons are basically yozi's or devil tiger's children?
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>>50226702
>>50226734
Malfeas: The fallen King of the Primordials is arrogant, cruel and given to excessive displays of obvious force for the chance to show off and the sadistic joy he feels when enemies and allies look upon him in awe and terror. He is vast and full of hate toward those who betrayed and imprisoned him, seeking vengeance with indiscriminate callousness to the collateral damage he inflicts on the innocent. The Demon City is resilient and strong enough to lift the world or crush it underfoot. The green fires raging in his heart blight the very Essence of everything they touch, marking the world with his wrathfulglory. He holds authority over all things wise enough to bow before the world’s creators.
Characters may apply this Charm to any actions in which they choose the ostentatious or overkill approach over merely adequate solutions. Any intentional subtlety or display of restraint makes this Excellency inapplicable, including adding less than half the maximum possible dice bonus to a roll (rounded down). Note that force does not necessarily equate to violence. A forceful seduction in which an Infernal confidently orders a prospective paramour to accompany him rather than cajoling or flattering her can benefit from this Charm just as readily as a stomp delivered to a prone enemy’s face. Strangely, the power of Malfeas may also enhance any Performance action to dance or create music. These are the secret pleasures of the Demon City that embarrass Ligier.


Here we go.
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>>50226734
>Nope. The infernals are really new (3-ish years at the oldest IIRC), and without rushing up in Essence it'd take atleast 100 years before they'd be able to start the process.
>It's not even discovered to be possible in-universe.

...

White Wolf what the fuck are you even thinking.

Shit, there goes that idea. Was wanting to do it manually - kinda to save CP, mostly for the metaphysical clout of going "Hey bitches, I DID THIS."
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>>50226682
You forgot Devil Survivor 2's Endgame drawback.
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>>50226759

More smaller pieces of their souls living indipendently but still connected to them like a some sort of bizzare hocrux.
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>>50226718
>>50226728
How's the plot developing anyways considering its a still running manga?

I mean in perspective Toriko just ended and that was approximately 8 years for that story
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>>50226777
So kinda like FMA's homunculus and Father, then?
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>>50226783
Haven't been keeping up but I believe they're into the Ten Commandments stuff now.
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>>50226759
Sort of, not really. Think of them more as mostly-autonomous organs? Sorta?

>>50226767
You can do it manually. It IS confirmed to be possible, just not just considered in-universe.

Also, the buyable stuff in jump is not the full package, just what's left over after the (not-existing) original Devil Tiger died and you got his shit.

You get the "making your own theme for Charms" thing, and a custom Caste. But not making demons, or getting a world in your soul, or being completely immune to age.
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>>50226783
>Toriko
I kinda want Toriko-Anon to make it so you have to take each season on to get the next, in a series of more and more dangerous Scenarios, like some kinda demonic cake.
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>>50226805
>Demonic multilayered cake

Anon I cant even afford something that fancy but I want a multilayered cake now
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>>50226803

I saw a few perks titled Inner world and Akuma creation. Are those in conjuction to the buyable stuff the full devil tiger set?
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>>50226702
Here's a list
http://rathess.xi.co.nz/exalted/index.php/List_of_Yozis

Charms let them do elemental things based on their Yozi, for Malfeas you could do stuff with green radioactive fire for example throwing fireballs. It can also go more conceptual and let you do things like using said fire to ignite the hatred/fear in peoples hearts or something.
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>>50226872

Many thanks.
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>>50226615
It's bait. But Dies Irae power levels are pretty clearly defined.

You're either a human enhanced by Die Ewigkeit or a god or a God. In the first case they are basically chuuni liches who absorb souls to boost their power. They range from city busting to country busting. Then there are gods, who can blow up a continent or more with a single attack. Then there are Gods, who transcend infinite dimensions and can basically do whatever.
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>>50226912
I know about Dies Irae anon. I was asking why he thought SDS was anywhere close to it.
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>>50226805
>Season
>Not reading the manga
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>>50226803

>no world in your soul.

Dissapointing. It's the kinda thing I really like.
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>>50226959
You can still get it. You just have to become a Devil-Tiger in your own right, first.
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>>50226803
Is Bleach's Soul King a Yozi?

Also, you mentioned rushing up in Essence, what do you mean?
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>>50226959
You can get it on your own.
Just buying the devil tiger option in jump doesn't make you one.
It just makes you the reincarnation of someone who already did.
Which is really good because you can get two devil tiger charmsets that way.
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>>50226959
I think there's a few other jumps that let you do that or something similar, but the names don't come to mind at the moment.
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>>50226803
Do you still get to choose favored Yozis from which you can learn charms if you go DT?
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Anyone know some good cyberpunk jumps? The classic Ghost in The Shell is rather... minimal in terms of choices and options.
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>>50226803
So there's no libraries which would help compile this information or any of that? If so my updating libraries are gonna be kind've overworked trying to piece it together.
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>>50226999
Both Deus Ex jumps are good for that.
Shadow run could work as well if you don't mind crippling yourself until the jump ends.
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>>50226139
A manga series in print that causes intense headaches and nausea when read accompanied by disgust and rejection at convoluted plot twists, asspulls, and bad writing. Ignores defenses entirely and directly assualts the mind.
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>>50226803
Can I become bffs with any of the Yozi?
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>>50226932
He doesn't actually believe that. He's just being deliberately provocative. Or maybe he's joking, since the jumps he's been talking about are basically mid powered compared to other jumps.
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>>50226999
For a moment, I was about to say .hack, but then I realized we don't have a .hack jump.

Now I'm sad.
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>>50226865
If you grab these:

>Orphan Cub of the Devil-Tiger
>The Inner World
>Descending Hierarchy
>Akuma of Your Own

You have a boot-legged version of a full Devil Tiger.

But some things are still missing. Notably missing are immunity to aging, ability posses your demons, and telepathically communicate with them over any distance.

In addition, The Inner World and Descending Hiearchy are not at full strength. Giving you a limited inner world and only 8 instead of 11 to 15 Third Circle Demons, respectively.


On the other hand...The Inner World is much easier to enter/leave for you, and gives you some extra bonusses. And Akuma of Your Own allows you to give your Akuma a selection of all your powers, not just those of your Devil Tiger "Yozi".


Also, these all stack with going Devil Tiger manually afterwards.

Orphan Cub of the Devil-Tiger would mean you have two themes to make Charms of. The Inner World would mean you have the unlimited hug world, and the extra bonusses. Descending Hierarchy would give you 8+11 to 15 Third Circle for a max total of 23 of them. Akuma of Your Own would allow you to make akuma yourself or let one of your Demons do it for you.

>>50226959
Me too.

Get it by grabbing the Inner World perk to get a lesser one, or do it manually

>>50226971
No clue.

I mean that there's a charm to raise your maximum Essence one higher than it would naturally be. That would make it a max of 6, which is enough to start the Devil-Tiger process. Then you spend lots of time meditating to train your essence that high. Instead of being patient, waiting 100 years, and raising your Essence at a reasonable pace.

>>50226992
Yes. If you do it manually, your previous Caste Yozi even becomes a second Favored one. Giving you three Yozis with discounts in total.

If you grab the perk version, then you just have one Favored Yozi. (aside from discounts on jump perks)
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>>50226992
If you're a regular Infernal turning into a Devil-Tiger, you retain your Favored Yozi and your Caste Yozi turns into a second Favored Yozi. If you're inheriting the Exaltation of a dead Devil-Tiger, you only get to choose the Favored Yozi, as the former Devil-Tiger is automatically your Caste Yozi. At least, canonically. Mardukth might change that, I don't know.

>>50227015
Oh, sure, you can be friends with any of them. Just remember that Adorjan is just the worst of the bunch. It's the case for all of them that their love is worse than their hate. Adorjan's only different in that she intentionally has a charm set based around hurting people you love. The rest will do it more organically by being terrible things.
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>>50226999
I think you could classify Robocop as a modernish cyberpunk.
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So I want to start.

What jump is least powered as a medieval (faux medieveal) peasant? I'm thinking Discworld/Ankh-Mapork. But ideas?
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>>50227006
Not really. The Glass Libraries of Hell are pretty good, but don't have any info on Devil Tigers. Because no one has considered if it's possible yet.

>>50227015
Isidoros is pretty cool, if a bit huge.

>>50227053
>Mardukth might change that, I don't know.
Changing it ONLY for the purposes of discounts in the actual jump. But not for Charms/in-universe stuff.

This'll be noted when I have an actual Yozi/Notes section.


Also, I'm going to collapse any second now. So if any of you have any more questions?
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>>50227037
>>50227053
Is "doing it manually" something that would need to be done in-jump? If not, would doing it post-jump still send signals to the baddest mofos in-setting?
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>>50227078
>Isidoros is pretty cool, if a bit huge.
One isn't a prick? I'm sold!
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>>50227071
Mount and Blade, or a Song of Ice and Fire.
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>>50227084
Oh, he's still a prick. It's just that he's not intentionally being one like the others are. Isidoros is coincidentally being a terrible monster, because he's too bust having fun rampaging across the stars to care about who he crushes in the process. He can be steered, though, so keep him away from populated areas and he'll be fine.
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>>50227081
>Is "doing it manually" something that would need to be done in-jump?
No. I'm not going to force people to rush that stuff.

>If not, would doing it post-jump still send signals to the baddest mofos in-setting?
No. It would still resound across the world normally, but unlike in Exalted's Heaven they probably don't have alarms set up to detect Infernal stuff specifically.

And the Yozi wouldn't notice jack shit, until you get back to an Exalted jump with continuity of course.
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>>50227078
Dare I ask when they do consider it possible?

And that brings up a second question: Is there any time travel in this setting? Something that the Eternal Sword a la Tales of Phantasia could cooperate with so that I could potentially observe these canonical happenings.


I am so sorry for both of those questions.
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>>50227037
What are Broken Shards Merged and Heart and Soul supposed to be?
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>>50227037
Could I use various time dilation rooms and perks to still manage to achieve Devil Tiger manually in jump before 10 years is up?

Are Third Circle Demons we make really loyal to us? Could I possibly just convince them to participate in less painful and more free Hellstrider creation to lower the agony due to them doing it of free will?
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>>50227037
>Also, these all stack with going Devil Tiger manually afterwards.
The best part.

23 Third Circles, and an improved Inner World. Oh yes, Justice approves of these shenanigans.
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>>50227125
Sorry if this has been asked before, but when you do it manually and become a pseudo(?)-primordial, are you able to maintain your human form?
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>>50227174
Yes, in-fact there aren't any(canon) Devil-Tiger charms to give yourself a True world-body.
I imagine you could make one though.
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>>50227185
Hey. Hundred Fold Facets of Enlightenment is canon enough.
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>>50227174
It's a spiritual transformation, not a physical one. You could make charms to alter your body, that's very much in Primordial thematics, but there's no need to.
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>>50227125
Is this Malfeas?
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>>50227197
No, that's Mardukth. The canon Primordial, not the guy making the jump. His name actually was pretty huge.
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>>50227206
But is he as huge as best waifu ever?
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>>50227127
>Dare I ask when they do consider it possible?
Probably when some Infernal does it. It's canonically a good path to go on, IIRC.

The Yozis will try to murder the fuck out of you for doing/trying it though.

>>50227130
Broken Shards Merged lets you combine Shintai.

Heart and Soul lets you empower up to two (Like Theion) of your 3rd Circle Demons as Pseuso-"Fetichs" (Fetich: the core Demon/heart of a Yozi), making them stronger and letting them channel your power. (Unlike a Yozi, you don't suffer full identity death if one of them dies, but it will hurt.)

>>50227132
As long as you are active for the required length. Freezing yourself for 100 years wouldn't work. Magically aging yourself 100 wouldn't work. Going into a hyperbolic timechamber and spending 100years there in a day outside WOULD work.

>Are Third Circle Demons we make really loyal to us? Could I possibly just convince them to participate in less painful and more free Hellstrider creation to lower the agony due to them doing it of free will?
They have an unbreakable tie of loyalty to you... But also have their own desires and ambitions. Which you get an unbreakable ties towards.

You might be able to.

>>50227147
Yesss.

>>50227174
What Justice said. >>50227185

You keep your human form, though you could use a Shintai (God-Body) charm to stay in a Primordial-like form for an indefinite amount of time.

>>50227197
No. That is me. Or the Primordial whose name I stole anyway.
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>>50227195
I have no knowledge of this charm.
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>>50227127
Fuck. Forgot the second one.

No. There's no timetravel. That's specifically one of the few things that are completely impossible in Exalted.
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>>50227225
Are you still going to include that perk that would let you recover from the sort of unhealable injuries/mutliations that turned the Yozi into what they are or was that a non-starter?
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>>50227233
>no time travel

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>50227225
>They have an unbreakable tie of loyalty to you... But also have their own desires and ambitions. Which you get an unbreakable ties towards.
You CAN, though it would be very time and energy consuming, make a third-circle who was born for the purpose of becoming an artifact, or part of one. Their motivation would likely be built around that then if that was the whole purpose of their creation, maybe even to the point of actively seeking out the highest quality materials so their Artifact is the most glorious thing ever.
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>>50227223
Bigger. Mardukth's thing was that he was so HUGE that the rest of the universe was defined by relationship to him. He was so big that the edges of his existence got fuzzy and he himself couldn't tell what was and wasn't part of his being, so he'd constantly call out "AM I MARDUKTH?" and all that was not him would say "YES, YOU ARE MARDUKTH". He was one of the first Primordials to die, now he's the Neverborn known as "He Who Holds In Thrall".

>>50227230
It's not a charm, it's a fanbook of charms that came out before Broken-Winged Crane and therefore has some neat (if retroactively contradictory) ideas about how an Infernal could evolve and become a mini-Primordial.
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>>50226999
Blame and Biomega probably fall under that
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