DnD Orc Evolution Thread

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Not OP but bumping once in case he comes back

>>50209342
Is it just D&D or is the GW ORK part of the evolution?

>>50209342
Great thread, OP.

>>50209872

Yea, I especially like the first of the one pictures that he posted.

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>>50209342
tangentially related

Warcraft II was the start of the noble savage bullshit imo.

>>50211308
HoM&M 2 is best, as always

>>50209342
OP? Are you alright? Should we send help?

>>50212336
I'm assuming Orc's ate him

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>>50211308

>>50211875
False, HoMM 5 all the way

>>50209561
>Want to paint lich
>Its a literal Jesus prophet

>>50212432
Technically, one could say that Jesus was a Lich.

>>50212492
He didn't have a Phylactery.

>>50213751

That is exactly what a liche wants you to think.

>>50209561
I didn't know ropers raged.

>>50213751
That's the sinister part, he doesn't have a static phylactery, he just phases out of existence unless someone is partaking of his "flesh" and "blood".

The moment there's people performing communions in all timezones is the moment he returns for his vengeance.

But he's fucked because atlantis got sunk.

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>>50209342
Don't have anything from the 80s or early 90s, but here's 3rd Ed.

When did orcs get green?

When did goblins get green and how come d&d goblins never got green?

When did non-d&d trolls get blue?

>>50220218
>When did non-d&d trolls get blue?
warcraft

>>50213751
He was a jew tho

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>>50220002
Here's a bunch of 4e orcs.

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AD&D orcs were lame.

>>50212424
HoMM V was a fun game, but design-wise it was basically Warcraft. 2 and 3 had a lot more personality.

>>50220218
>When did orcs get green?
Warhammer, I think, but it's probably worth noting the description in the 1E Monster Manual:
>Description: Orcs appear particularly disgusting because their coloration - brown or brownish green with a bluish sheen - highlights their pinkish snouts and ears. Their bristly hair is dark brown or black, sometimes with tan patches.
>brownish green


>When did goblins get green and how come d&d goblins never got green?
It ties them into green orcs in stuff that makes them related (cough Warhammer cough), but D&D's orcs aren't THAT green - they're usually more in the grey-ish green area. Also, D&D goblins are only related to orcs inasmuch as they're humanoids - they're in the same big group as kobolds, bugbears, gnolls, etc.

Some D&D goblins have been green, though - 4E had a brief stint with that, although they seem to have given up on that idea now for 5E. The Magic the Gathering goblins are generally green, so maybe they wanted to be able to reuse art assets or something, I dunno.

>When did non-d&d trolls get blue?
Warcraft 3, I suspect, but it's worth remembering that having them be stone-colored is an old standby and greyish-blue is a popular color there to liven things up a smidgen. Especially since having a blueish tint is semi-standard for dark scenes, and trolls not standing sunlight is an old idea.

Also, of course, D&D Trolls are some gaunt Three Hearts and Three Lions fuckers while most trolls in other fiction are more like the D&D Ogre - something Gygax noted explicitly in OD&D, if you're curious.

>>50220384
If only we could get a game with the graphics of 3, and the gameplay and story of 4...

>>50220218
>When did orcs get green?
Warhammer
>When did goblins get green and how come d&d goblins never got green?
Also warhamner, and I imagine d&d tries to define itself separate from it. d&d orcs never really got green either; they're always some greyish brown almost green but not quite
>When did non-d&d trolls get blue?
Warcraft

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>>50209342
>Some D&D goblins have been green, though - 4E had a brief stint with that, although they seem to have given up on that idea now for 5E. The Magic the Gathering goblins are generally green, so maybe they wanted to be able to reuse art assets or something, I dunno.

MtG goblins are one of the few races that is present in almost all sets, and is different in design in each set. Saying that they are generally green is quite imprecise. Also, I don't think art has ever been reused between D&D and magic.

>>50220002
My least favourite D&D depiction of orcs. I could picture orcs being a little hairy, but never covered in fur.

>>50209342
this pic always makes me laugh. They look like they are all about to cry. I don't find them scary or threatening at all, I want to help them.

>>50222445
They kinda look like Bebop from TMNT.

>>50222213
Okay, these are pretty Goddamned adorable for orcs.