/ysg/- Yog-Sothothery General

>>50204862
nice picture you have there, OP, i'd love to see more like it
yes, this is shameless bump

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>Derleth is canon

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What are the best ways to incorporate technology into the cthulhu mythos. I've always liked the idea of Warlocks keeping their grimoire on a tablet.

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>>50204862
>mfw when Flash does not add more write faggotry to his setting

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>>50209806
The classic trope of "Group attempts to Science at Otherworldly Science. It goes awry" is a classic.

For example, we had a group that found a way to broadcast a Wrong Colour over standard high definition televisions. They had a TV show buried on Not-Netflix that was only accessible to certain people. The show itself was nothing special, but they'd digitally replaced things, just a few things, with the Wrong Colour.

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>>50209806
One way is "the actual ritual does the magic, written information about it is just that - written words that don't do anything even when read aloud".

So, the tablet is just like a regular notepad.

Or, "the symbols do magic shit when shown to someone, what they are written on is irrelevant".

>>50211313
The latter can even be an interesting hook. Something about stopping something memetic from spreading through the interwebz.

>>50211313
I kind of like the idea that the symbols of various outer gods having power on their own, so storing them on a computer would result in that power being split up into lots of tiny signals, I imagine these signals would then behave like a virus and propagate themselves, spreading through the internet and forming new random symbols and images causing all sort of random mythos bullshit to break out across the world.

All because you wanted to have the Necronomicon on your kindle

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>>50209842
Pain incarnate

>>50204862
Can somebody post a comic where they explain cosmic horror?
It goes something like: "everything is meaningless, I'm gonna kill my family and they myself" "good".

Thanks!

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>>50214131

It probably isn't this one, but here you go.

>>50214518
Yes, It was! thank you. I didn't remember a thing about it.

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>>50214646

Have this one too.

>>50214665
Thanks!

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>>50212375

bumpan!!

>>50214518
Carcosa Tracts

Golly, /ysg/ appears to have fallen into deathless slumber.

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>>50216762

I have a couple of Delta Green questions.

I've been interested in the system for a few months, and have managed to track down PDFs for the Agent's Handbook and Need to Know. But neither book has much information on actually running a game. Is there a GM's guide that I'm missing? I've googled around and heard talk of a Case Officer's Handbook, but I can't find it.

Also, I've found a few premade operations - The Last Equation, Puppet Shows and Shadow Plays, and Convergence. Some of these seem to be made with the old CoC rules in mind, though. Is converting old modules to the new system difficult?

What kind of eldritch thing would make sense if it were to appear on a WWI battlefield and pass mostly-unnoticed but for the soldiers in the same sector? Ghouls? Trench shoggoth?

>>50214518
Snoozy Cthulu is cute as ftagn.

>>50222291
Summanus, the thing that feeds with tentacles. It's shaped like a man, and has a cult following that procure foodstuffs (people) for it.

>>50222218
Case Officer's Handbooks is not out yet. Wait and see. Converting things from Call of Cthulhu shouldn't be different, since the skills are relatively the same.

Some CoC scenarios account for the possibility that some of the characters are psychic. Delta Green doesn't yet have any of that.

>>50222032
That's Saron as hell.

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>>50222291

Ghouls fucking loved the early 20th century.

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>>50227580
Ghouls, they're just going to town on those corpses.

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>>50227636
Imagine a ghoul that wound up in a KZ by mistake. Wouldn't it thrive?

>>50222291
There were always rumours that Under-Lord Salzar, or one of his contemporaries, tried to influence the Great War for the benefit of his flesh-eating clan.

It is said that Salzar sent secret messengers to the courts of both warring factions, informing them of the plans of their enemies... just in time to prepare a deadly defense, but not in time to organize an offensive strike or a countertattack. The price paid by both sides for this "valuable" information was said to be minor, and well worth the intelligence they received. They never considered that slaughter on the front lines was the true goal.

>>50229031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLdyGjxbGLc
Sort of makes me think of this.

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>>50229031
Trenches were just the start, the upper portion of a vast network of tunnels, bunkers, storehouses, and command posts. Sappers sometimes encountered tunnels no human ever dug, tunnels that spiral down into the darkness, line with scraps of uniform and fragments of bone. Standard policy was to excise any mention of these tunnels from official reports, lest High Command send you and your squad into the darkness.

>>50229129
The German development of flamethrowers prior to Verdun now seems even more sinister, ditto the invention of the submachine gun. Perhaps that's why our doughboys were so pleased with the trench shotguns.

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>>50229129
While the Ghouls gorged themselves on the dead, the living had other worries. Trench warfare inspired madness in many. Perhaps, even in most.

A few dabblers, mystics, and cabalists were swept up and sent to the front lines. While the Dreamlands were churned into a hell of mud and wire, anyone sensitive to such things lived a tormented life. Small wonder that some chose paths and powers that might end the terrible conflict, even if such a path damned them and all around them.

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>>50229223
No one fought the ghouls - no one even knew there were ghouls to be fought. But there were always "enemy sappers" or "saboteurs" to be cleared from tunnels. High Command might paint the enemy as bloodthirsty monsters, but to believe that actual monsters lived just under the surface, emerging at night and in the fog to drag corpses below for gigantic feasts? How could such things be believed?

And of those soliders who, in desperation, fed on the flesh of their fellows and then vanished into the night, what can be said? The ranks of the Ghouls swelled in those days, as the disaffected, the nihilistic, and the mad shucked off their humanity and slowly became something else.

>>50229240
What else might get caught up in conscription?

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>>50229475
You lazy fuck. Are you incapable of contributing?

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>>50229475
Cultists. Lots of them. Various shard and splinter cults form up all over the frontlines, merging, splitting, mixing, reassembling and fighting each other. Each with its own goals and methods. In certain places, even the side you were fighting for didn't matter - only the shape of the charm you were desperately clutching in your pocket, instinctively trying to stave off insanity.

>>50229567
Trying not to make it a circlejerk of my own ideas, guy

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>>50230009
Sometimes, even regular soldiers turned to the unnatural, when patriotic ideals and religion failed to keep the morale up. All measures were used for the sole purpose of winning the battle, and the war. Rites of blood conducted right in the mud of the trenches, aiming to summon a terrifying entity from beyond the stars to break through the enemy lines, horrifying chants that cause the dead to rise up and march onto the enemy stronghold, and mind-rending impossible symbols painted in non-existent colors on the banners held high - all of this could be noticed, if you knew what to look for.

>>50222291
Maybe try something more intangible. Something laying around, getting fat by feeding off of the human suffering and insanity all around it. Something to start pulling at your player's minds to drive them out in to no man's land to kill at any cost.

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>>50230099
The price of many miles was counted not only in blood, pain, and lives, but also minds and souls. Industrialized warfare did terrible things to the human mind, things not fully understood, and thus it became the perfect cover for things man was never meant to know. How does one know that the things he perceives are not halucinnations caused by shell shock? And how does one know what is real, and what is not? Does it even matter when you can die tomorrow, today, right now? Did your comrades really walk to the no man's land in the dead of night and never return, and in the morning you wake up on the cold ground, only to see that both the enemy and your lines gone as if they never existed? Or was it all a nightmare of a deserter who stole a weapon, a uniform, and forged his documents?

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>>50230034
Somehow I don't believe you.

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>>50230244
It was almost perfect. The gas hid the hideous creature perfectly. One could not tell the difference between a fellow soldier choking on the noxious fumes and the gurgles of those caught by the hideous creatures that dwelled within it.

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>>50230009
And sometimes, perfectly ordinary men and women were drawn into the feuds of cultists and gods. Cultists were not often prepared for the horrors of war, and any agendas they once had were sometimes lost in the mire.

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>>50207681
>there is a canon

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>>50230404
It moved like quicksilver, and it didn't change speeds as it faded away. It was as thin as wax paper, but the bullet holes filled in immediately, like wet paint. It mostly ate horses - mostly - but people too. It could clear an entire trench line in a few moments.

And it only came with the gas - it faded away when the winds changed, taking its latest meal with it. Where? Who can say.

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The War allowed some nations and groups freedom to perform experiments that would not be possible in peacetime. While it might be difficult to find twenty sound men to march into a stone portal in Scotland, prisoners of war, deserters, and other "undesireables" provide an easy source of almost anything useful. Need thirty pints of blood, drained from the right hands of murderers? You'd have to spend a month scouring prisons across the isles.

Paperwork was always a shambles. Prisoners vanished all the time... as well as the wounded, from both sides. Many of those "Missing in Action" went missing far from the trenches, recalled while on leave or snatched from hospitals. Some were given as tribute to mortal or immortal powers, while others met far worse fates.

>>50229475
Deep Ones, they'd not be happy about but they'd have been conscripted so long as they were still mostly, probably end up with stretches of the front manned by soldiers with the Innsmouth look

>>50214518
someone should make these lovecraft tracts a real thing and hand them out at mormon schools.

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>>50230404
>>50230244
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>>50229031
And the blood welled up on Earth and the Black Pharaoh smiled. All this just because he had put some whispers in the right places and got an Archduke killed.

>>50231712
They'd probably get lynched.

>>50234528
>Mormons
>Lynching

What?

>>50234528
There's no love lost between me and the Mormon church, but generally Mormons were the ones getting lynched, not the other way around. It still plays into their massive persecution complex to this day.

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Anybody try the new Arkham Horror card game?

I like the campaign aspect too it, but also fear it will hurt the replay value. FFG is planning on releasing plenty of expansions to add more scenarios and campaigns, but I fear for my wallet when it comes to that business model.

Anybody else have thoughts?

>>50230467
A trench cultist, drunk on absinthe bought on furlough and half-delirious from eating cordite cuts his palm. The vasodilatory effects of the nitroglycerin in the cordite ensures his blood runs freely, and he begins to negotiate with the entity the absinthe allows him to glimpse. He asks for small things. Dud shells to fall here, gas to be blown forward instead of onto their own trench, dry weather. He offers blood, and the weeks' produce of the machine-gun team in their sector.

How would you guy's go about doing a Christmas scenario?

>>50238216
you could always find a way to turn Santa Claus into an eldritch abomination, doesn't ToC have a section on turning existing mythological figures into mythos entities

>>50238216
By trying way too hard to pretend the monster isn't just the grinch or some such.

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>>50238253
>How Nyarlathotep stole Christmas
...You know, that'd be fully in character for him. What an asshole.

>>50238251
ToC?

>>50237996
Haven't tried it for just that reason anon: the business model sucks if you have no money. I can't afford to keep these businesses alive with my money! So it has to be classic pen'n paper rpg's for me...thank Cthulhu imagination is free.

>>50238732
Trail of Cthulhu, lovecraftian investigative rpg

>>50238216
Grampus. Stealing naughty children out of the world. Effectively erasing their existences. Leaving behind only the smallest of faint feeling, and obscurest of clues.
>Fallen over ride tricycle
>Billy never lived here

>>50238575
Most humans on Earth within the Skin of Yog liked Christmas a lot, but Nyarlathotep, the Faceless God, did not.
Ol' Nyarly hated Christmas! The whole Christmas season!
Now, please don't ask why, there was no fathomable reason.

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>>50232446

Then he turned around and gave us 'nukes' a couple decades later.

>>50204862
Hey y'all. Gonna be running that DG oneshot about Tcho-Tcho running a restaurant in Philly tonight for my group to get them antiquated with DG. So to that one anon who made it, thanks!

>>50240429
Guy who wrote that scenario here, glad to hear it. If you get any playtest data or critiques out of it I'd love to hear it.

>>50240503
I have a copy from a month ago. Have you significantly changed anything?

>>50240529
No, I've been wanting to playtest it myself before working on it more but I haven't gotten a chance to.

>>50240580
It's two new players. One is gonna be a slightly older Marine and the other is a conscripted con who gets a year off a life sentence every mission he completes. So them dealing with this mess is gonna be hilarious.

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>>50239660

>>50240624
Sounds like they're gonna have a hell of a time, hope you guys like it.

Have some Mythos fiction

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t6792v35951vg/Mike_Minnis_Wayback_Machine_Archive

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>>50239660
It could be his Masks were too tight
It could be his Ushek Collar didn't fit right
But I think the most likely reason of all
Was his Masters made him feel two sizes too small.

>>50234607
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_mass.htm

>>50241773
That seems more a past thing

>>50241772
>>50239660
Oh, good lord.

What's the elder god most likely to get in the way of the others? Fuck up their plans, inconvenience them for the inscrutable lulz, etc?

>>50242802
If you mean actual Elder God, Nodens the Hunter.

If you just mean powerful Eldritch Horror: Nyarlathotep

>>50242877
I've never even heard of Nodens.
Nyarly was what I was thinking.
Is Nyarly the King in Yellow in some or all interpretations?

>>50243098
Nope, that's Hastur

>>50243098
>>50243151
Actually, it's theorized he could be the King in Yellow.

Nodens is the eldritch equivalent of a big game hunter who targets the Great Old Ones.

>>50243227
No.
Narly is Azathoth, not Hastur.
Only A is accompanied by the mad piping...

>>50243407
Infinite Masks.

>>50243227
>>50243151
Huh.

So, hypothetically speaking; if an adventuring party is wandering around in the deep not-Congo jungle, and enter a village, and the natives react to one of them specifically with utter awe and reverence, bring that one (and by extension the rest) back to the village for a feast, and bring out gaudy yellow/gold robes, mask, and so on for the chosen one...

How would you go about ending this?

>>50242280
same thing could be said with slavery and look how that is now.

>>50243464
Could be something for the Priest Not to Be Named.

>>50243450
Infinity masks....what? What is infinity hiding?!? DAMN YOU, TELL US WHAT LURKS BEYOND THE FINITE!?!

>>50243464

If the party is aware that the unnatural exists and wants to keep themselves healthy and sane, tbey'd nope the fuck out and make sure no one finds that village ever again.

If not, something about possession.

>>50243511
Go ask Daolothor something.

Just finished Horror on the Orient Express.
AMA

>>50243561
I was thinking about sending the non-special PCs to Leng for an audience with said priest
And have the other one NPC not realize anything was wrong and not acknowledge their absence.

>>50243981
Did your PCs do the proper bludgeoning, as required?

>>50243464
San checks to resist eating the longpork with the natives. Progressively harder SAN checks.

>>50210350
reminds me of Event Horizon

>>50244952
Kek

>>50244952
By harder do you mean more frequent?

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>>50243561
Thanks for the responses.
I'm theorizing the party coming into a conflict between the horrific space faring illithid empire and a puppet/servant of Nyarlothotep (or maybe Hastur?). Whatever it is, they don't know about either yet, but I'm planning on at least one collective visit to the dreamlands for them.
Kinda think Heart of Darkness, Cortez, and CoC got tossed into a blender with the pathfinder setting, though I'm content playing fast and lose with that.

>>50243511
Yog-Sothot. That's basic Mythos 101.

Does the Laundry Files fit in /ysg/? Just impulse bought the laundry files RPG on the humblebundle book thing the other day and wondering if it has any "street cred"

>>50210227
Is that the shrine of oryx?

Can somebody link me an old thread? It was about some astronauts, a cave, a rescue, and how the GM was able to create an amazing feeling.

>>50249497
People seem to like it as a more light hearted alternative to Delta Green.

>>50243981
Did you PC's mind the railroad?
In all seriousness, what was your favourite part?

>>50247537
I meant increasingly difficult. Penalties to their roll to take the SAN check, and maybe increasing SAN damage. Leave their actions up to them, but the unnatural pulls at their minds anyway.

>>50243098
>>50243151
While the connection with Hastur and the King in Yellow is commonly accepted these days, the original story where the King in Yellow (the play, which apparently features the character) apeared in is older and Lovecraft, and while Lovecraft referenced the story he never connected it to Hastur in any way. In fact, Hastur is also a name from some other story that Lovecraft just threw in a long list of various spooky things and places in one of his stories. the connection between Hastur and the King in Yellow is entirely because the two names happen to be mentioned right after one another.

If the King in Yellow is supposed to be a Mythos entity, I suspect Lovecraft would've made him an avatar of Nyarlathotep. He's already got a thing for wearing masks, and his high priest in Dream Quest is described as wearing yellow robes and a mask.

>>50252477
> If the King in Yellow is supposed to be a Mythos entity, I suspect Lovecraft would've made him an avatar of Nyarlathotep. He's already got a thing for wearing masks, and his high priest in Dream Quest is described as wearing yellow robes and a mask.

Questioner here. That and some half - remembered layman's knowledge was basically what I was going off of.

>>50249373
Actually, doesn't Yog lurk WITHIN and BETWEEN the finite and the infinite?

>>50253121
no, Yog is the multiverse, it is everything and everywhere and everywhen all at once

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>>50253121
Within, between, beyond, and probably in directions you don't even know. Yog-Sothot exists in any and all points in space and time, and any and all points in space and time exist inside Yog-Sothot (and therefore, by definition, he has to exist outside them for them to be inside him). Common intrepertion is that Yog-Sothot literally is the universe/multiverse.

I could go on on intrepertions of the methaphysics of Yog-Sothothery, but that's very heavily based on headcanon and the sort of collective agreement of multiple writers that have never really been confirmed.

>>50253217
Azathoth is the universe, is it not?

>>50238216
Read "The Festival" by Lovecraft.

>>50253463
I thought Azathoth spawned the universe out of what was essentially a burp?

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>>50253463
Azatoth dreams the universe (ie. Yog-Sothot). Based on what we can gather, Azatoth is the source of all things, who dreams everything else, and Nyarlathotep is Azatoth's soul and likely the one observing the dream (essentially, Azatoth's dream-self).
Yog-Sothot and Shub-Niggurath are slightly further removed from Azatoth, though what exactly that means is not really clear. Yog-Sothot is generally aknowledged to be the universe/multiverse, but Shub-Niggurath's position is a bit less clear. She's got the whole life/nature/fertility association, but that seems like a rather insignificant domain for a being that appears to be a counterpart to the being that is the multiverse.
My personal theory is that Shub-Niggurath is everything in the dream that isn't Yog-Sothot (or Nyarlathotep), the "Is Not" to Yog's "Is", and embodiment of the void/ to Yog's embodiment of existence. Course, there's very little direct evidence to support that, but from the evidence we have, it would seem a reasonable conclusion.

>>50253674
It's all hindi to me.
But, to help you with your placement of Shub - Shub would be the principle of growth, of expansion, of increase, of actuality, of physicality: she is fecundity, she is Life with a capital 'L'. All possibilities of life in all combinations (including the dead/non-living/never-living combinations). She is the consort of Yog. She is the Gatekeeper to Yog's Keymaster.

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>>50253804
That would make sense, and would fit with HPL once describing Shub-Niggurath as "the wife of Yog-Sothot", which would imply he felt there is some strong connection between the two.

I mostly base my intrepertion on the "family tree" Lovecraft did that shows the relationship between the Outer Gods. The interesting bit here is that while Nyarlathotep come directly from Azatoth, you have an additional step between Yog&Shub, with "The Nameless Mist" and "Darkness", neither of which has ever been referred in his writings otherwise. I doubt these are "beings" in the same sense as Yog, Shub and Nyarly, but more likely "stuff" that Yog&Shub formed from.
Based on the "reality is Azatoth's dream" idea, a possible intrepertion is that The Nameless Mist and Darkness are the first basic things that exists in the moment the dream begins. Nyarlathotep is there of course, being effectively Azatoth's subconcious (or part of it), but while you've got some vaque "stuff", there's no real content yet. Think of it as a split second between you falling a sleep and starting to have a dream. Then the Mist forms into Yog-Sothot, ie. the universe, and now the dream has substance.
This would leave the Darkness as everythign else, the nothingness that isn't anything but must exists for all the things that exist to have something to exist in. The "outer void" in which Yog Sothot and the other Outer Gods dwell in. And Shub-Niggurath would be the manifestation of that nothingess, possibly even be the nothingess in the same way Yog-Sothot is the universe. Everything that isn't Yog-Sothot (aside from Nyarlathorep, but he's kind of a special case, as established) is Shub-Niggurath.

>>50253674
>>50253804
>>50254050
So Azathoth/Yog/Shub are analogous to Godhead/Anuiel/Sithis in the Elder Scrolls?

>>50253674
>She's got the whole life/nature/fertility association, but that seems like a rather insignificant domain for a being that appears to be a counterpart to the being that is the multiverse.
She is cause and effect. Life and death and all that.

>>50254284
I like to think that Yog-sothoth is the universe but without Shub nothing would have happened in it, Shub set the stars burning, galaxies spinning, and life forming, without Shub there'd still be a universe but it would be a cloud of particulate, nothing more complex ever forming

>>50254279
Sorta. Also analogous to God and Jesus.

>>50209806
I kind of like the idea that magic is powerful enough that merely writing the words down gives them power, so storing spells on a tablet might lead to some interesting side effects.
You could have a mission where an enterprising cultist attempts to enter the digital age and stores spells digitally, only for the storage device to begin to corrupt and spew foul energies over time.

>>50214131
Providence by Alan Moore does it pretty well.

>>50222291
Ghouls are pretty much perfect, I mean in Delta Green Russia is fucking full of Ghouls as a result of two separate world wars coupled with Stalin's purges. Hell, some of them actually worship Stalin as "The Great Provider" and have abandoned the old gods.

>>50255571
So, pretty much what everybody else in the Soviet Union did.

>>50231285
That could be pretty entertaining. A few squads with pop-eyed soldiers that don't speak much, but always seem to survive any engagement with the enemy, and there are still whispers about what happened during the last trench raid.

>>50255627
Who says lovecraftian gribblies can't integrate?

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>>50255637
Deep Ones find a submarine near a reef, get on board, decide to use the torpedoes on board to get some well-deserved revenge by sinking passenger vessels and raiding the lifeboats for fertile human women.

>>50243464
If they put the mask on one of the party, extremely hard save to prevent being overtaken by some nameless god. If they fail, their mind is thrust out of there body and into the Dream World, where they can complete a series of trials to regain their body. The now-possessed body should then set about stalking the other party members through the jungle while the natives watch silently from the bushes. The other party members should be given opportunities to also enter the Dream World to aid there lost friend, but these should be a risk/reward thing.

>>50255571
In Delta Green GRU-SV8 is using fucking Mythos magic to support Putin's imperialism. No one really knows what the fuck is actually going on there, in terms of the unnatural.

And I think it's awesome.

>>50255646
That's all Lovecraft could ever ask for.

>>50255691
I like the idea of a bunch of Innsfolk foot soldiers getting drunk on furlough and hijacking a u-boat.

>>50255778
That is pretty awesome. I need to get ahold of the new DG sourcebooks, I was really excited to see how they changed the status quo.
Any word on M-Epic? Did they figure out that Harper was a Dimensional Shambler?

>>50255627
Pretty much, yeah. I liked that about once every few years the Russians had to organize raids to put down the ghoul population. If I ever get into a DG game that allows it, I want to play a Cossack whose family has a long history of raids on flesh-eaters.

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>>50255627
>>50255646
>>50255836
So, Stalin was the real monster, glad we cleared that up.

>>50255805
There isn't much info about new DG's setting yet since that book hasn't come out yet. The updated stuff about GRU SV8 supporting Putin is from a 2013 issue of Unspeakable Oath.

>>50255987
Well, he was digging into the Mythos in the hopes of becoming immortal.

>>50255571
I can see a scenario where the players are GRU SV8 operatives tasked with stopping a bunch of ghouls trying to resurrect Stalin.

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>mfw people talking shit about comrade Stalin ITT

>>50256033
>Stalin was actually a Mask of Nyarlathotep all along with Hitler and Winston Churchill

>>50256217
What if everyone, literally, is a mask of Nyarlathotep with erased memories, who's just doing it for lulz?

Nyarly may even be posting in this very thread, right now

>>50256284
What are you talking about? There's only one person posting in this thread.

>>50256302
... This makes too much sense.

>>50256302
This is precisely what I'm talking about.

>>50256795
>>50256788
>>50256302
>>50256284
What if all sentient beings are Nyarly?

>>50256881
I am definitely not you. How dare you suggest that?

>>50256881
>implying it isn't true

>>50256926
Nyarly pls

>>50254050
The fact that Lovecraft put himself in the Elder God family tree, always reminds me how he knew how to make a decent joke. He even parodied himself sometimes. In the history of the Necronomicon and the bit about a bunch of ground hogs worshiping a cursed skull.

>>50237996
I've played through the first two scenarios with my fiance. Its fun, I like the co-op playstyle (I've never tried the LoTR game, so this is new for me).

We're just using the pre-con decks that are recommended. We beat the first scenario and ran out of time on the second scenario. After we finish the playthrough, we'll try running through it again with new investigators.

There seems to be a decent amount of replay between trying out new decks, changing the difficulty setting, and making new choices during the course of the scenario.

Any tips for setting a Mythos style game in the modern day? I kinda feel like smartphones/internet negate most of the sense of isolation and ignorance in lovecraft's stories. Not to mention the ease of which you can get your hands on just about everything today.

>>50258989
I'd recommend reading the Delta Green Sourcebook. While it's not set modern day yet it does go over the concept of ancient evils in the information age, and with a bit of work you could extrapolate to a more modern era.

>>50259248
will do.

>>50259500
One concept you might want to look at is how to turn the pervasiveness of technology against your players. Use technology against them. Have the antagonists communicate to them through technology, have their cell phones begin spitting out cultist gibberings in binary, shit like that. You're probably familiar with the idea that the more connected we become, the more isolated we are, so use that. When unexplainable shit goes down, make it so that they feel as though they have no-one to turn to that they can trust. Hell, a good way to have the party meet might be to have them all be victims of ongoing SAN loss from various sources that have joined a support group or something. Make the group contain several NPCs, then have some of these NPCs become possessed/go mad/whatever. If you want to, make it feel like the PCs can't trust each other either.

>>50231646
this looks like weaver's art, but I don't recognize it as either nanquest or rubyquest, and since those all I've seen him do is bad porn, what is this?

>>50258989
Let them call A-Cell, and have A-Cell tell them to handle it. Having the communication there is helpful, but they're supposed to be handling it and above all keeping it QUIET.

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>>50259575

This isn't my work, but here's a good example.

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>>50259760

I will be forever grateful for this piece of art.

>>50257291
>The fact that Lovecraft put himself in the Elder God family tree, always reminds me how he knew how to make a decent joke.

Yeah, but also to be fair he does also look the part.

>>50261901
Harsh but true.

>>50263078
Yeah I know, genetic issue his mother bullied him over and all that, but like come on. Come on. Yeah. Come on.

>>50263138
what genetic issues?

>>50263980
Lovecraft looking the way he does is some genetic misfortune (as in beyond just a bad roll of the dice). Watched a documentary on him at one point and it was brought up, but fuck if I can remember what it's called, but it wasn't a face even his mother could love (explains a lot really).

My limp-wristed attempt to look things up failed so who knows, might have been lied to.

>>50264054
but he doesn't even look that bad, he's not disfigured or anything
he's like a 4/10

>>50264054
Nah, his mother was just a psycho puritan bitch.

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So I didn't notice that this thread existed and made this one >>50265973 about a campaign that I'm writing from scratch and would like any input anyone has.

>>50256018
This. I want to run this now.

>>50265398
Emphasis on pyscho, both of Lovecraft's parents died in a mental asylum.

>>50267337
I wonder how he would have ended up if he didn't end up dying so young.

>>50266652
>As you make another turn in the dark cold tunnel, the light from yor flashlight passes a corner of something hanging on the wall. It looks like a painting, though the light is too weak to make something out of it from afar.

>When you move closer and brush off the dust, you see a portrait. It's a man in his sixties. Military uniform, wooden pipe, majestic moustache... You all know who this is. This is definitely Joseph Stalin.

At this point, the ghous in old 40s military uniforms attack, screaming OOOORRRRAAAAAH in rough screeching voices. It'll be hilarious.

>>50267932
Who knows, he'd definitely be affected by WWII.

>>50268047
Orah is American though

>>50269415
American thing is slightly different, and AFAIK is marines-only.

Urrah is a traditional slav battle cry, derived from a mongol battle cry and prominently used in their armed forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-5ycjbfELM

>>50269415
Urah is Russian though.

>>50269598
Urrah was the Soviets and may still be used as far as I know.

Oohrah is only used by the Marines.

Hooahh by the army.

Hooyah by the navy.

Awww by the air force.

I did slightly better as a Handler for my fledgling DG group.
>Party calls the shittiest fumigators in the area
>They spend a good nine hours tenting the house
>Players gas the fumigators and steal their suits and gas tanks
>Players put gas tanks around the house
>Get shot at by Unknown Assailants who turn out to be cultists
>Kill/knock out/overpower most of them with no losses yet.
>Find book
>Get out
>Burn the house down

It was bad, but wasn't EXTREMELY bad.
How to do better next time?

>>50253674
>>50253804
>>50254284
We're talking about vast, fundamental cosmic principles. "Life" seems a little limiting to me, considering how most of the eldritch horrors aren't even made up of cells or tissues as we understand them. Instead, how about this: Shub-Niggurath is/represents/is the reason for emergence and emergent phenomena. The whole life/fertility/fecundity thing is a consequence of that. Shub is not only cells and trees and shit, but also, conceivably, all matter in the universe - the kind we know that's made up of atoms, and the kind that, say, Mi-go are made of that turns to goop and evaporates when they die. Shub also includes other, more abstract forms of emergent phenomena such as dominant strategies, natural logarithms, and human consciousness.

Yog-Sothot is the space in which all of this can occur, and something that doesn't objectively change. (What's that? There is no objective reference for space-time? Maybe not to you, human).

>>50271862
So I was right?

>>50272023
>burn the house down
Sounds like Call of Cthulhu alright.

Why did your players kill the fumigators, again?

>>50272212
so what this anon said >>50254431

Thinking about running a short campaign based 'Who Goes There?' by John W. Campbell. Any advice, suggestions, etc.?

>>50275661
*based on

>>50275661
Secretly give every player a second character who is a copy of their own, but part of the Thing. Make sure every one of them thinks he's the only one with such a character. When they die in secret, switch. Play up the paranoia, make them point fingers and guns at each other. Drink their tears when they find out that everyone is replaced.

>>50276161
The idea isn't bad, but the Things in the book are able to read minds and project thoughts (an aspect I wanted to keep and make use of), so any turned players should be able to naturally recognise one another.

>>50276303
What about the Things from the 82 film, those aren't able to communicate with one another.

>>50276303
Huh, bad explanation on my part.

*Before* they are turned, they think they are the only one. After it, you can secretly pount out turned ones to one another, something along the lines of "you feel that X may be one of your kind".

Maybe tell them that they can secretly try and sense if another one is the Thing. They may very well forgrt it.

>>50210227
I wish they played up the lovecraft shit with TtK, end the raid with a little "you beat him but he's not dead" moment.

Anyone got any Delta Green PDFS?

>>50253674
>>50253804
>>50254431
>>50272212
I like it when the Outer Gods are described as effectively the not-at-all-antropomorphic personifications of cosmic forces, rather than just big gods of evil and also tentacles.
For some reason you pretty much never see benevolent cultists worshipping them, though, just always a bunch of nutters wanting to sacrifice people or bring about the end of days. It's not like the Outer Gods care either way, so you'd expect some cults popping up that worship Shub-Niggurath as the motive force and mother of life, or Yog-Sothot as the god of space and time without feeling the need to disembowl anybody.

Closest I can think is the one Lovecraft story with Gnathatoa, where Shub-Niggurath is described as a benevolent god and her priests help the guy who goes to fight Gnathatoa. Plus the fact that druids, and every other pagan religion with a nature/fertility deity, are implied to have knowingly or unknowingly worshipped Shub-Niggurath.

>>50275661
Make a list of what food is available, act like it's a big deal when yhey choose what to eat, where to refill their canteens, have them roll to resist falling asleep. Don't be afraid to take a little liberty with how it spreads if you have to.

>>50274566
I'm playing delta green, and can't quite control the tone.
They decided that it would look better as an accident- that is, the shitty fumigators turned the gas on in their van and killed themselves. But then they had to burn the house down because they got into a firefight with the cultists. So the FBI are now certainly involved.

>>50278513
No, I'm asking what was the initial goal. Why would they need to kill them in the first place?

>>50278669
The initial goal was to steal their gear and gas the house. None of the agents had any skill in fumigation, so they figured they'd hire the team and then make it look like they died, then take the suits, gas the house, so that they can steal a book from inside it.

>>50277725
This, so much this. I even once played in Pathfinder as a goody-two-shoes druid who worshipped Shub.

>>50278680
And why would they need the suits to steal a book?

>>50278680
>>50278703
And also why would they need to gas the house?

>>50278703
There are people in the house that they didn't account for. They didn't want to engage them in an assault. So they thought, why not gas them?

It didn't go to plan

>>50278717
Oh. That's a good plan actually. What exactly went wrong and how, in detail? And whyy do you think it's bad?

>>50278783
>The people inside the house waited until gassing began, and then decided to shoot their way out.
>Two of the players very nearly died
>They found the book, plus a hook for another mission
>The party managed to capture one man and interrogate him, he confirmed the hook

It was bad because I can't control the tone, and that I let my players do point-buy and one player has an 80 in Sneak and a 60 in firearms, and I want to spook my players but I don't know how to get under their skin

>>50278687
They actually did stat the Outer Gods as worshipable deities in PF. I think they made Shub Chaotic Evil for some reason, but Chaotic Neutral and True Neutral clerics would still be able to worship her (Yog Sothot and Azatoth were both Ture Neutral, IIRC, and Nyarlathotep was unsuprisingly CE).

Personally, even in a game with aligments, I wouldn't give the Outer Gods proper aligments (except maybe Nyarlathotep). Either make them mechanically True Neutral, like non-sapient animals are, or give them weird aligments that don't fit the standard aligment chart: Yog's aligment is an equation describing a four-dimensional coordinate system, Shub's is simply "Life" (or if you want to match Yog, the Lotka-Volterra predator/prey ratio equation or some other differential equation used to describe natural systems) Nyarly's is "Colossal Asshole".

>>50278837
First, did the cultists know that that they are about to be gassed, and if yes, how?

Second, throw spooky shit at them. Some things you just can't hide from, some things just can't be shot, that's half of what DG is all about. Ultimately, numbers don't really matter when you are fighting the unnatural. And when not, let them succeed, it doesn't really matter, too.

Third, make things personal. They have Bonds. They are a powerful tool, because they are not just a note on the sheet, those are full-blown NPCs that the characters are supposed to care about. Work with the players, get all the info on their Bonds you can get. Makesure the players, not only PCs, invest in them. And some time after that, threaten them. Don't just kill them for drama, give your players a chance to save them, preferably in a "save yourself or save your kin" situation. Don't pull any punches, though, but don't overdo it.

Also, it's DG, it's all about spies and agents and shiiiet. Watch or read any spy-themed media (except James Bond, fuck that faggot) and note the tension. In intelligence, even the smallest mistake can cost you your life. In DG, a quick death is usually the best outcome, so use it. If they are not careful and leave evidence, they are already being tracked. If they leave witnesses, they are fucked beyond saving. Try to recreate that feeling of being on the edge all the time.

For that, use home vignettes. Emphasise the daily mundane life. One trick is to make the Mission spill over to daily life. Say, an agent is at his wedding anniversary, and suddenly A-cell calls and forces him to go into the night. If he won't go, many may die or worse, and he knows it. Works wonders.

>>50279095
I think that when they drop off the book, we'll have a home vignette.

The trouble is, that the characters have been slightly dumb with their bonds. One has a daughter, one has a gun instructor they've had a long term friendship with. One is a priest/criminal, and has God as his only bond.

When they go raid the retirement home/cult, they'll see things they'd...really rather not, and face up against something *apparently* unkillable.

>>50279181
>God as a bond
And why did you allow it? Did you read what Bonds are for and how do they work?

>>50279408
The character said that he has no friends, no family and his old colleges have it out for him. I was thinking, this is probably something we can work on later. The player also thought that having your CHA stat= the number of bond points per bond was really fucking dumb.

>>50277725
I have the major antagonistc race in my campaign setting worship the Outer Gods, and while they're the bad guys to everybody else, I did want them to be internally reasonable (i.e. they're essentially a diffrent nation with a different religious system, albeit one that may involve more blood sacrifice than is average for non-Aztec religions, rather than pure evil for sake of evil; they do kind of want to remake the world in the image of their gods, but from their point of view it's a good thing), so they mostly intrepret the Outer Gods in a neutral to benevolent way. However, since the Outer Gods are so vague and impersonal, there's a lot of different intrepretions, many of which are mutually exclusive, so their society is actually a big mess of cults that worship the same beings but very differently.
On one hand you got a group that worships Shub-Niggurath as your typical harvest/fertility deity, and on the other you've got a militant group of social darwinists, and on the third a group of monks who can literally turn their bodies into weapons.
If anybody has some neat ideas for Lovecraftian religious sects that aren't just "let's summon up tentacled gribblies to eat everybody" cults, I'd like to hear them.

>>50278687
How'd that turn out? I'd think it's pretty hard to strike a balance between the character just worshiping generic "Mother Nature" goddess but with the name of a Lovecraftian deity and going full weird. I view the Outer Gods as very "primal" beings by their very nature, so even a benevolent intrepretion of Shub would probably by hard to fit to human idea of morality as nature obviously doesn't follow the laws of men.

>>50279434
>accepting murderhobos
>ever

>>50277725
Ignoring the whys and ways and hows, my setting has reached an epoch where the old ones are 'understood', in that the few still alive are seen and treated more like dealing with divine/metaphysical radiation. People go shitmad and sick and deformed because that cosmic radiation is destroying them with exposure through summons and rites. So everyone knows about the things, and just avoid them the same way you'd try to avoid a meltdown zone.

>>50279545
This is the second time he's played ever. I can't just kick him. I can, however, ask him to change his character.

>>50279434
Did you remind the player that having no bonds (God really doesn't count as a possible bond) means that he's gonna go insane pretty quickly?

>>50280529
Yep.

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I think Lovecraft would have had a nervous breakdown if he'd have lived to see the kinds of things that are really in the deep sea.

>>50282321
He probably was partly inspired by all the sketches of what people saw down there.

>>50256881
Erm - we are all Masks of Nyarlothep, yes. That was aich pee'ell's point.

>>50282746
I'm pretty knowledgeable about obscure Yog-Sothothery, but I've never thought of that. Did Lovecraft himself at some point imply that? I'm not really doubting it, but haven't really read anything from him that would imply so.

>>50282974
Not that i've specifically explicitly read, no. I am inferring. But I am very confident in my inference. It makes sense in the context of his thought. (I haven't read all of his letters yet.)

>>50282746
>>50282974
>>50283543
Wait, what?

This feels like it belongs in this thread.

http://windows95tips.com/

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>>50285055
>http://windows95tips.com/
Looks cool. You should check this out.

http://witchmarsh.tumblr.com/

Taking place in the 1920's Witchmarsh the player creates a team of investigators and leads them into the depths of the Massachusetts swampland to solve a case of mysterious mass kidnappings.

Witchmarsh puts a fresh, accessible spin on classic RPGs like Baldur’s Gate and Wizardry, without compromising on depth. Featuring online multiplayer, extensive character creation, countless ability and item combinations, and rewarding boss encounters.

>>50284020
We are, all of us, fragments of the one universal Source, Azathoth. Each one of us is a 'mask' of Nyarlathotep.

>>50285524
Oh groovy.

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Where does he fit in?

>>50288000
My ass.

What is the general consensus on the d20 version? Should it be avoided at all costs?

>>50288483
Everything d20 should be avoided at all costs.

>>50285524
I quess that can be considered to be the case, in the same way every person in your dream is you due to being created by your subconscious. Although I would consider Nyarlathotep to be a specific aspect of Azatoth's subconscious, rather than all of it.
The way I see it, Nyarly is the character you're seeing the dream through when you dream. It might be the dream version of yourself at one point, but then you might dream that you're a dog or a spaceman or an attack helicopter, and then that is the viewpoint character. Hence Nyarly having so many "masks".
This also means rest of the universe is essentially NPCs for Nyarlathotep to interact with.

>>50288483

The book is beautiful, the system isn't well suited for serious horror.

>>50288483
The parts that Tynes worked on are really good, the parts that Monte Cook worked on belong in the trash.

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Hey, /ysg/. Need some help writing some OC for a Delta Green group that'll be meeting up in a few weeks:

The premise is that a "retired" DG agent snaps, and starts killing sex workers in Miami. A-cell sends the players in for the standard 9mm retirement plan, only to discover that the crazy agent may or may not be on to something...

Of course, the agent also lost his mind years ago, and has spent his time with 0 SAN suffering from paranoia and OCD. This has led to him spending the last 20+ years on creating the ultimate "Green Box". His studio apartment handles like a proper armory, complete with files, forms, and enough paperwork to document where every single bullet resides.

I've been using some online Green Box generators to compile some interesting load-outs for the players, but what are the most interesting things you/your players have found in a Green Box?

>>50293096
http://www.palinola.com/projects/lab/greenbox/

The Green Box generator is always useful for this sort of thing.

Also years of unchecked paranoia and OCD should result in something much more unsettling than a particularly accurate filing system. The Agent's house could be something more like the Winchester House, the OCD and paranoia combining to result in something more like a trap filled D&D dungeon than an armory.

>>50290094
But Nyarlathotep would only be interacting with different 'masks' of himself. He is literally just jerking himself off, and having a grand time of it.
Oh, and in your dream, when you become a dog, or a flying car, or what-not, and you are Nyarlathotep: WHO decides WHAT you become??? You the dreamer do not - you merely experience the transformation: so who the heck is making all the dream decisions???????????????

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>>50294853
This may provide some answers you don't want to know...

>>50292477
Monte Cook in general belongs in the trash.

>>50293555
Holy shit. I never knew this existed. I have such hardons for generators. Is there anything else like this for CoC/Delta Green/Actung Cthulhu?

>>50297644
I mean that generator was made for Delta Green but there's no reason you couldn't use most of the stuff it generates for any Mythos game you want.

>>50297757
Oh no absolutely, I was just wondering if there were anything other Cthulhu mythos themed generators. I love finding shit like this for different games, like the Winds of Chaos website for Warhammer Fantasy 2e.

>>50298106
If there are any others out there I don't know of them.

>>50258989
Ubiquitous information networks bring their own paranoias and terrors.

Instead of isolation, you're under constant surveillance.

Instead of having no information, you might have countless sources of info that are mangled and incorrect to the point of being dangerous.

>>50248764
>pathfinder setting
would personally drop this, Lovecraftian entities lose all their impact and meaning in a fantasy setting

>>50299585
>Dream Quest of Kadath

>>50299760
Lovecraft wasn't good until 1927. The White Ship, Dream Quest etc are good fantasy, but they're sure as hell ain't Lovecraftian, even if Narly makes a guest appearance.

>>50298912
THIS - focus on paranoia and terror and all that. don't get caught up on details, go for the emotions however you can.

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anybody snag doors to darkness yet?

anybody know where I could grab a pdf?

How do you handle Shotguns in CoC (6th mainly) ? Do they cause impale damage or not ? I´m asking because I´m thinking of running a zombie scenario.

Anyone got any good ones involving the undead btw ?

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>>50241773
>what was the prairie meadows massacre

>>50301414
>implying Music of Erin Zann wasn't top tier
>implying Rats in the Walls wasn't top tier
>implying Pickman's Model wasn't top tier
>implying the Statement of Randolph Carter wasn't top tier
>implying Nyaralthotep wasn't top tier

>>50306385
personal favorite here is the shunned house
I love bait and switch monsters/villains

>>50306424
I should reread that one, it was really good.
Slightly embarrassing but I really liked Herbert West Reanimator

>>50255442
Gives a whole new meaning to the term "corrupted file", dunnit?

>>50306490

Conceptually, it's great.