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Winter Ball Discussion Thread

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Well /tg/ it's that time of year again and the Winter Ball is on the horizon so it's time for us to pick a date!
I figured we are, for the most part, civilized enough that we should have a proper discussion on who to ask so the whole of the board can voice their opinions and concerns.

I am casting my vote for asking /vp/ again. We had a lot of fun the last two years and we have gotten some great OC because of it but we are open to suggestions. I k ow /his/ has already extended an invitation to us.
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Guys, I feel bad. I think we should take /po/ out of pity.
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I think we should accept /his/. They made a move on us and asked us before anyone else. If /vp/ truly valued us then they would have asked as well. We should take the one that cares about us and doesn't take us for granted, let's go with /his/.
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>>50201397
It's not out of pity anon. We asked them last year and they told us to fuck off.

>>50201444
Good points however I do think we should give /vp/ a little bit more time. Their board is in a mixture of complete hype and disappointment because of the new game coming out and the board traffic is much faster than normal, making it hard to keep a Winter Ball thread alive.
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>>50201412
What is "tan?" And why don't you like balls?
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>>50201397
While /po/ is a good choice, we got shot down pretty hard last year because of their Nazi mod. I doubt it would work a second time, but Teej always likes a challenge.

There was a lot of good oc when we ended up going with /vp/. /vp/- tans are super cute.

/his/ has asked us also, so that's an option. Although, I'm not familiar with their tan, so i dunno.

Nothing will be solidified until polls go up anyway.
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>>50201541
One thing to note is that /x/, while we share a good deal of history with them, is out of the question. There's always a massive brawl between 3-4 boards over who gets to take them and we should stay as far away from that as possible.
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>>50201602
True. /x/ is basically a cum- drenched husk anyway. I'd rather not even get involved. Also, claimed by /pol/ this year from what I understand.
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>>50201640

I wouldn't say claimed, they've having a bit of a fit in /x/. Still agree that we shouldn't go near them, not with better dates around still.
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so we are going with /his/ then?
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>>50201640
>>50201655
I would be OK with doing what we did last year. /x/ was tired of /pol/ sockpuppeting their polls.and such so they tagged along with us and the twins as a tagalong. I felt it worked out fine and let /x/ have a little bit of their former life come back. No romantic stuff, just tagging along without a date to have some fun and get away from /pol/. If they come to us again with the same offer I say we accept.
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>>50201681
Nothing is confirmed until the polls are made but they are a candidate.
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If you guys are willing to accept magical realm, /trash/ is always willing to go
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>>50201962
No means no.
No is always no.
If you hear no it means a thousand times no.
No plus no equals no.
All nos lead to no no no.
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Please keep this stuff in /qa/.
It's not traditional games, and frankly, it's embarassing how awful it is.
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So let's list the best possible choices pre-poll creation.

>Take /vp/ again like we have done the last two years.
>Take up /his/ on their offer
>Try our luck at /d/ now that some time has passed and they actually like us again
>Go as bros with /co/ if for some ungodly reason they don't ask /ck/
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>>50201359
What about /trash/ ?
I thought we had a thing for non-humans
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What about /qst/? :^)
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>>50203412
Do they have a -tan already?
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>>50202051
It's a traditional roleplay that 4chan has done for years. I think that's good enough.
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I'm a newfag. What the fuck is Winterball?
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>>50203522
Once a year board-shipping thing.
We went with /vp/ last year, /his/ asked us out this year.

We could still go for /trash/, kinda waiting for polls
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>>50202051
you are correct, it is embarrassingly awful
but that doesn't stop it being either traditional or a game
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>>50203600
Stop trying to make /trash/ happen.

It won't.
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>>50201359
what happened to /x/
I liked /x/
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>>50203644
Giga-Puddi and then /b/ invaded and never left.

Our Waifu is dead.
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>>50203644
She died, and then like 5 different dudes fucked the corpse. Now 1 guy from /pol/ is obsessed with her.
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>>50203655
ah well, /b/ happens
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>>50203412
I'm pretty sure we shouldn't go to the ball with our daughter, senpai
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>>50203729
but who would go with /qst/ if not us?
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>>50203759
I think they like /a/ but I'm not 100% positive on that.
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>>50203482
http://shimmie.4chanhouse.org/index.php?q=/post/list/qst/1
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>>50203759
/vp/?
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>>50203759
I believe /qst/ is taking /cm/ because of /qst/-tan quest.

On a different note /vp/ is most likely going to ask us once their poll is done. Last I heard we were 80% of their poll.
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>>50203759
Questfags can stay with /trash/
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>>50201359

/vp/ is always a back-up option if we can't net anyone else.
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>>50203791
/a/ will probably go with /v/, if one of them can stop being tsun for the other for ten seconds.

Didn't we go with /s/ one year?
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When I get home from work I'll put together the preliminary poll for everyone to vote if no one makes one before that.
If /vp/ does indeed ask us though I feel we should accept. They were great fun the past few years and they turn 17 in a week so lots of cute birthday art.
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>>50201359
I'd like to consider /vr/ out of their love of a lot of CRPGs that are D&D related. We both love our Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment,etc.

And possibly /m/ because of Battle Tech, 40k,etc.
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>>50203831
Doesn't /m/ almost always go with /toy/?

And while i fucking love /vr/, I think he's better as an eternal bro in the same vein as /co/. Definitely a candidate to consider if /vp/ doesn't want us though.
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>>50203814
/s/ is a good mix of hot and desperate. I'd at least consider it.
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Take /trash/. The possum needs a dicking.
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>>50203876
Fuck off. No one wants to take your meme board.
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>>50203800
>/qst/ decided their date with a quest
it's so perfect I'm not even mad
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>>50203814
>>50203868
Does /s/ even do meta shit like this? I can't imagine there are a bunch of /s/ drawfags floating around.
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>>50202337
>not going with /k/
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>>50203922
/k/ is happily married to /an/ you homewrecker. They even have a kid in /out/. Not gonna happen.
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>>50200586
/his/ asked us, so I don't think we should turn them down.
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>>50201397
we tried last year they auctually rejected us before we even asked them
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>>50203976
This!!!
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>>50203976
This anon >>50203823 is going to make a poll so we can decide who we take. Once it's made than the votes will decide.
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We can't just turn down /vp/, they want to go with us from the looks of it.
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>>50201444
/vp/ is a bit of a mess right now and most threads for the ball get archived within about 20 minutes because of the influx of people asking about games and leaks. We finally got a thread up now and are trying to get votes going, but we'll see how well it goes. The people who care about the winter ball just aren't able to see any info on it.
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>>50203976
Could be fun.
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>>50204042
According to a /vp/oreon friend of mine, apparently 83% of the votes in their poll were to /tg/ when he did his.
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>>50203886
Well then, I'm proud of our child. I feel we should visit them more often.
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>>50204071
He's a good kid. I've heard /d/'s kid has also taken quite the shine to him. Our little man is becoming quite the Casanova.
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Fukken /trash/ is open to us we should hook up, we could be a bit dirty this ball...
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>>50204149
/trash/ fuck off. No means no.
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>>50204149
See
>>50202006
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>>50204149
/vp/ is just gonna end up attacking /trash/ thinking its an Ultra Beast
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>>50204149
Jesus christ anon.
You have a problem.
Seek help.
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>>50204042
new generation next week, so they get a birthday.
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>>50203976
I'm pretty down for /his/
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>>50204042
So, a poll just went up in /his/. Votes are slow as only /his/ can be, but it at least sounds like they're thinking either /lit/ or... both us and /vp/?
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>>50204257
Thats an interesting development I was not expecting. I'm not sure how /vp/ will feel about it but it definitely seems like it could be an option.
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Ok, sounds like it's either /vp/ or /his/. I say /vp/, because going with /his/ would feel a little creepy, and /vp/ seems to have its heart in the right place. We should keep an eye on /qst/ though. Don't want our child to get into too much trouble. Unless that results in them deciding to stop being a blue board, and causing a return of Papa-N and Heretical Love Quest
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Alright guys, poll anon here back from work. Have we reached a consensus or are we still throwing around hypotheticals? Should I make one with all the boards or just the few we are discussing?
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>>50204360
poll whats being brought up.
/his/, /trash/, /vp/, and throw in a couple randos for funsies
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>>50204378
>>50204360
Yeah. If /toy/ and some of the other boards don't have any plans, toss them into the mix. I wouldn't mind seeing an option with on of the sexier boards, but they'd have to suit our tastes. /d/ is currently deliberating between us and /mlp/, so that's also a possibility.
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>>50204378
>>50204430
Alright I'm thinking up some security questions. I'm not too concerned with sockpuppeting but it doesn't hurt to be safe. They'll be easy enough that any fa/tg/uy should be able to solve them no problem.
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>>50204430
/d/ here, /mlp/ is a blight not even we will accept.

As far as we are concerned, we and /tg/ want elves, but /mlp/ wants sugarshit ponies.
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>>50203644

/x/ never got better after /b/ was done with them.
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>>50201359
>/his/ has already extended an invitation to us.
Then, shouldn't we go with them? Why would we say no to /his/?

>>50203644
We moved on years ago, and she moved on before we did.
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>>50202337
>their
/his/ is a tranny?
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>>50204338
>implying you don't want the big stinky herodotus cock
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>>50204360
I haven't seen anyone seriously saying we shouldn't accept /his/'s offer.
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Alright guys, I think I did this right. Haven't made a poll on here before so if you catch a fuck-up than tell me.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScViI04GQr15RMqGuh7EglmGc61Q1yCWzVI2wePL7O11ztQJQ/viewform
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>>50204430
>>50204478

>/d/ is deliberating

I'm why not take both?

I would find it very amusing if /his/ /d/ and /tg/ end up becomming then nucleus of a massive date blob and following that a Roman Orgy.
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>>50204687
We can't leave /vp/ out of that.
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>>50204679

What kind of security question is this?

It's not much of a meme, it's just celebrity trivia.

I could understand a Matt Ward or Guygax question but this is not out there.
I've been browsing /tg/ since March 2013 and have no ide a what the answer to this security question is.
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>>50204703
Ah, sorry. I thought it was something everyone could figure out. I believe you got it right anon but if you think it could be better then I'll think up a new one.
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>>50204703
Man I only knew one for sure, the other two I got with good deduction.
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>>50204725

>I believe you got it right anon but if you think it could be better then I'll think up a new one.

I haven't answered it yet. I'm up trying to search for the answer because I don't want to guess.
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>>50204725
The first one is pretty out there but I could catch the other two at least.
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>>50204744
>>50204748
Hmm. Well if that is the case I better change it then.
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>>50204740
>>50204748
Is still hung up on the first question like
>>50204744
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>>50204755
Alright I changed it but I have no idea if it will carry over into already open polls. Is the new one any better?
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>>50204755
Think about it this way. One is a joke answer, one involves someone that is part of an infamous scandal therefore the last one must be true.

>>50204769
Oh, too late.
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>>50204819
Would you say the new question is more appropriate?
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Ok so,.the whole winter ball thing is and always has been cancer

But I think /his/ is a good fit for us, since we always tend to encroach on their shit with our threads.

/K/ is the other good choice.
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>>50204840
Yeah. It's certainly more board culture specific.
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/pol/ and /x/ just won a presidential election together so they're a shoe in for one another. Let them have everyone's sloppy seconds. RIP /x/
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>>50204754

Now it jumps from the filter questions to the "thank you for voting" page.
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>>50204870
well it was kind of impressive

i mean, they did it.
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>>50201359
By the power invested in me as a forever GM, a long time wargame player, and even a larper at certain occasions, I hereby do declare my intent to vote for /his/ as a true adventurer never turns down an offer.
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>>50204840

Very good :)
It is more board culture specific and the "now I can't vote" problem for me turned out to be me fat fingering the answer and browser movement buttons on my phone.
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>>50204885
Thanks for catching that. It should be fixed. I fucked up on one of the answers and it moved to the wrong page.
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>>50204894

I'm voting for the orgy option because it's what /his/ and /d/ would want.

Plus a proper adventuring party should have more than 2 members.
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>>50204894
Also most of our interesting threads involve /history/ in some fashion
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>>50204679
>>50204913

>I'm voting for the orgy option because it's what /his/ and /d/ would want.

>Plus a proper adventuring party should have more than 2 members.

This.
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>>50201359
I nominate /trash/, since they've showed some interest, and Trish is kinda cute.
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>>50204938
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>>50204944
>he doesn't want to date the fat, dumpy kid who's into freaky shit
What are you, a homo?
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Just got home from work, glad to see a thread up.
Voting for /vp/ since /tgvp/ is goat.
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>>50204947
With how much futa is in /trash/ calling someone a homo for not wanting to get with them is a little off.
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Reposting the poll further down the thread so interested browsers can see it.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScViI04GQr15RMqGuh7EglmGc61Q1yCWzVI2wePL7O11ztQJQ/viewform
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>>50204947
No, he just has standards that tub of fuzzy lard can't meet.
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>>50204938

/trash/ and /b/ should go together.
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>>50204947
If I wanted a cumdump I would have voted for /x/s' corpse.
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>>50202051
Lurk for two years before posting. This is tradition.
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i like the idea of /d/ and /qst/
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>>50204870
They're arguing a bit right now. /x/ may be interested again.
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>>50204703
literally all of these answers are on 1d4chan

step it up sempai
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>>50204703
A meme one for sperg ass memshitters, which is what this entire not traditional games thread is for.
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>>50204938
Stop trying to make /trash/ happen. NO ONE WANTS TO GO WITH TRASH.
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>>50205077
/x/ is dead, stop trying to fuck a corpse.
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>>50205096
/x/ isn't dead, you leave her alone. We're considering /d/ right now, man.
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Why not go with /qst/?
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>>50205079
>>50205085
To give the guy a little credit, I changed the question. The previous one was

Name the celebrity by the quote: "I alone ushered in a board game renaissance"
-Will Wheaton
-Felicia Day
-Bo Jangles

>>50205096
>>50205100

If we do go through with the group plan with /his/, /vp/, and /d/, I don't see why she can't join as well if she doesn't want to go with /pol/.
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>>50205100
/x/ is pretty much dead, we don't have to leave /x/ alone because we're not interested in hanging out with a corpse.
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>>50205107
Fuck /qst/

Salty bitches
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>>50205107
>taking your child to the dance
While cute in some circumstances, not in this one. Besides, /qst/ is going with either /cm/ or /d/'s kid.
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>>50205114
Maybe see if /d/ wants to go with /x/? It gets /pol/ and /mlp/ out of their hair and I think they'd get along. The alternative is an already semi-awkward 4 person date group spiraling out of control because /tg/ can't disappoint anyone by saying no. We don't have to date all of the boards, we can just have them in our party at the ball.
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>>50205115
I say we take back our e/x/.
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>>50201359
I vote for /k/
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>>50205142
She's dead
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>>50205166
/k/ is happily married, you HOMEWRECKER.
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>>50205166
I thought /k/ and /an/ were a thing
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>>50205170
We're fucking /tg/! Since when is necromancy too far out for us?
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>>50205172
>>50205173
We must take back /k/ and have a good time SWORDING THE REST OF THE WINTERBALL
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>>50205183
From browsing the /x/ thread they do want to come to the ball with us, though its practically impossible that she gets us all to herself. At best she can join the adventuring party like >>50205140 and >>50205114 said.
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>>50205197
Does /d/ want to come with us?
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>>50205209
As its looking /d/ is undecided on who they want to ask, though /tg/ is right at the top of their priorities.

>get a new response to the poll
>vote for Other
>"I just wanted to see if I knew the answers"
Made me chuckle. You got them all right anon. Proud of you.
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>>50205197
Maybe some of that old magic will return? Who knows.
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>>50205225
I'm not denying that anon. If there's anyone who can resurrect her its /tg/'s necromancers but I'm saying it'll be a long and arduous process and the process even starting is a longshot. I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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/his/ should be 100% by now. everyone seems keen the only thing is if we take more. Right?
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>>50205224
/d/ seems leaning to /mlp/ so I dunno.
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>>50205249
a group couldn't hurt as long as everyone agrees on it
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>>50205249
The poll results are as follows at this current moment.

37.5% /vp/
31.3% /his/
18.8% Group of varying size
6.3% /d/
6.3% Other

As it looks right now I say that the group option would make the most people happy, as the names mentioned in the group options all include both /his/ and /vp/. /his/ were the ones that suggested it so we know they're on board 100%. /vp/ wants to talk to /his/ about it a bit but I'm pretty sure they will be down with it.
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>>50205293
What does /his/-tan look like?
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>>50205338
This is important.
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>>50205338
>>50205361

Google Herodotus. I'm pretty sure their -tan is just Herodotus.
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>>50205363
He'd make a solid wizard, but he's not very cute...
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Alright guys, Poll Anon here. I've got to head off to bed and I'll check the official results in the morning when I wake. Have a good night and I'll see you all tomorrow.
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>>50205371
Maybe we go as each other's wingman and try to pick up other -tans?
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>>50205338
There used to be two of them, a Herodotus and loli combo, but slow activity and overall lack of drawfags resulted in only about ten pictures being made at best.
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>>50205473
>picking up other -tans
>While we already have the /vp/ twins
What more do we need anon?
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>>50201359
voting for dragging /d/ along and adding a fuck large entourage that will end up being a massive shit orgy.
seriously, we've been lacking our usual shit of having hordes of people.
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>>50205293
>18.8% Group of varying size

this option needs more votes.
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>>50205496
Then we should bring /x/ too. A real adventuring party/orgy.
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>>50205496
Maybe because /tg/ drove off a shit ton of participants.
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We need to bring a babe for male /vp/.
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>>50205486
ALL the -tans. You make a good point.
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>>50205338
>What does /his/-tan look like?
>>50205484
>Herodotus and loli

>>50205496
>having to drag and not just ask

>>>/d/7111817
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>>50205338

wait why did we form a barbershop trio again?
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>>50205546
we need a reason to form a barbershop trio?
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>>50205566

Of course not. I'm just wondering if their was one.
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>>50205575
there were three of us, the twink /vp/ twin is good at singing, we have bard levels and the girl is good at taking direction if nothing else.
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>>50205575
Pretty sure it was related to being a bard and dressing up in matching outfits.
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>>50205486
i actually think the harem idea has merit considering how much we steal from other boards
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/x/ /x/ /x/ /x/ /x/ /x/
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>>50205701
I agree, we should get back with our e/x/-girlfriend. She needs a good necromancer, not some meme-magicians that don't respect her.
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>>50205546
I've actually completly forgotten what's the context for that pic
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>>50205701
fuck that, the polls already showed that it's either /his/, /d/ or both.
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>>50205626
>>50205631

thanks.

>>50205756
>fuck that, the polls already showed that it's either /his/, /d/ or both.

Well see early in this thread we assumed that /x/ and /pol/ were a lock for eachother.

but now /pol/ is schizophrenic on /x/ and /x/ belies that /pol/ doesn't respect them, so now they are looking at joining the party.

I think we should let them in if the other members are good with it.

>>50205663
Harem implies implies authority. This is not that. Being the hub of the wagon wheel does not make us a king
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>>50205783
I prefer orgy to harem.
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>>50205756
your polls are fake and gay
/x/ or riot
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>>50205797
same.
i really really want a gigantic fuckball end here this year.
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>>50205517
>implying the babe isn't us
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>>50205823
>same.
>i really really want a gigantic fuckball end here this year.

/d/ seems to agree.
>>>/d/7112417
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>>50205886
This night be settled then.
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>>50205958
>/pol/ gets jealous that /tg/ got more dates than him
>he's mad at everyone at the ball for getting more dates than him
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>>50205967
Well, maybe if he wasn't a dick to the person he asked out, /x/ wouldn't want to hang out with the best winter ball group ever.
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So wait, for the Winter Ball it's us, /vp/, /his/, /x/, and /d/? Are we gonna go on a spooky pokemon world with historical references and ERP?
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>>50205995
Who knows, but it's gonna be great.
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>>50205995
Excellent.
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>>50205976
>/pol/ blows all his chances with getting a date with other tans because they'd rather group up as friends than be with him after all his shit
>he ends up taking a Trump daki and talking to himself about meme magic being real
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Been watching the /his/ and /x/ threads, /his/ mentioned going with /k/. There's always more room in the Winter Ball party, right?
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>>50206078
Isn't /k/ married to /an/? What's with everyone courting /k/?
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>>50206088
Hindsight is 20/20
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/vr/ here. I wish we could join in. Though, sadly, we don't know how to have fun.
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>>50206088

/k/ and /an/ may or may not have had a breakup.
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>>50206152
That's because of your relation to /v/, that's all
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>>50203729
>Implying going to a dance with your daughter isn't adorable as fuck
It's not senior prom.

That said, /his/ is the right choice.
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>>50205967
>Every dates /tg/
>And by that logic, everyone dates everyone else
>Except /pol/

WE ARE THE SPOKE ON WHICH THE SHIPPING WHEEL TURNS
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>>50206417
/his/ is being wishywashy over us or /k/ while /vp/ is dedicated to wanting to go with us.

I say we stick with /vp/ and /his/ can come along if things don't work out.
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>>50206747

/tg/ does love the harem route.
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>>50206757
If we do go harem route, we need to have full adventuring Party OC ready.
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>>50201359
>poll
I want to go with /his/ or /d/

Mostly /his/

Where do I file my vote?
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>>50206747
agreed, i feel like /vp/ is the most fun. But i'll still wait for the polls to ends.
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>>50206777
Aight

/vp/ twins are probably some summoner/druid type while /tg/ can be whatever class, what about /his/?
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>>50207123
Factotum.

Or a bard with many tales of ages past.
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>>50201359
I recognize that artist!
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>>50202051
[angry board policeman noises]
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>>50205114
Oh, yeah I've been here longer than the winter ball and I have no idea what that should be. I would guess Wil Wheaton since he's a tool.
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>>50206757
It's more like the friend route though.

We're playing pure fantasy made for people to pretend to be socially competent and we still end up just going with a group of friends instead of an actual date.
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>>50208101
What about that year when we went with /d/, /s/, and /x/ and it ended up in a tentacle orgy?
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>>50208180
They weren't our harem.

We were part of /d/'s harem.
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>>50208180
Group of friends with benefits.
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>>50207123
Herodotus will be there character.
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>>50201444
I agree
Let's go with /his/
We have a lot in common and they use to be here with us.
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>>50206747
/his/ is not really on board with /k/. If anything, the polls sat /tg/ and maybe /vp/ but I think /lit/ has a following as well. Problem is, /lit/ might be taken. And /pol/ is a non-issue. /his/ hates /pol/
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Alright everyone the final results for the preliminary polls are in!

31% /vp/
31% /his/
13.8% Group of 2 or more
6.9% /d/
6.9% Other
3.4% /vr/
1.3% /x/.

After a VERY close battle it seems that the two forerunners, /vp/ and /his/ are tied!
However I have not been able to cast my vote due to making the poll and I am voting for /vp/ breaking the tie in their favor.

Here is what I propose. /vp/ is our official date. No matter how many people we drag along with us, /vp/ gets the final dance, late night kiss, ect. /his/ is guaranteed to come along for the ride. Whether or not we have the others come with us is up to you guys.
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>>50208992
Sounds good.
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>>50208992
Rock on.

By the way, what is /tg/tans' official pokemon roster?
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>>50209122
Sableye - Name: Dyce - has d10's for eyes and d20 in his stomach. Mega-evolves if he rolls a nat 20.
Ursaring - Name: Sir Bearington - Wears a top hat and monocle
Crobat - Name: Screech - First pokemon. Bred for him by Vanille

The last three tend to change between the artist/writefag but those 3 are consistent.
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>>50208992
/his/torian here. Sounds good, as long as we get to plunge our chiseled marble cocks into your boipuccis by the end of the night, in true Greco fashion.
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>>50209175
You can have the boy /vp/tan, he's kinda been the odd one out and does seem like a bottom.
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>>50209166
>Bred for him by Vanille
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>>50208992
>No matter how many people we drag along with us

Were not dragging, it is consensual.
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>>50209166
Surprised we don't have a Gallade on /tg/'s team.
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>>50209175
>our chiseled marble cocks
Possess one of your female statues instead, you fags.
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We should try /his/, it's new and gay.
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>>50209526
>Were not dragging
Hey, that's still up for debate.
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>>50209637
Or that shield and sword one.

>>50209661
Take your fad homosexuality and go jump in a lake.
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>>50208992

>/vp/ gets the final dance, late night kiss, ect

You realize they're kids right.
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>>50209684
They turn 17 very soon.
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>>50209684
You're reading too much into the "etc." part...
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>>50209650
this is getting too hot for me
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>>50209684
16 is Legal in the UK :^)
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Guys im so conflicted:

Im a /tg/ person and starting my own /tg/ business
but im a /his/otrian by profession.

I feel so conflicted. /tg/ and /his/ would be my vote for best dates of the ball
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>>50208992
Wow, Trump was right. The system IS rigged. Just the wrong election...
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>me and like one other person voted for /x/
at least I'll always love her, even if you guys don't
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>>50209750
>/his/otrian by profession
Wait, you mean Cracked.com started offering degrees?
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>>50209750
/tg/ as tradition usually doesn't go with a singular date.

We're a slut for OC.
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>>50209793
haha funny,I get it.

I misspelled Historian
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>>50209725
12 in Sharia regions.
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>>50209804
No, the joke was that /his/ is pseudointellectual garbage
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>>50209725
>>50209700
How are they 16? Half the time they look 8. And shouldn't they really be 10 or however old Ash is supposed to be when the show starts?
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>>50209860
10+number of generations of pokemon. Since the new games are coming out soon, they will "age".
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>>50209860
/vp/ twins upped their age around Gen 5 which had teenage protags instead of kids.

Basically they're going on their age as being 10+ current Gen now.

This was /vp/'s idea because they wanted to do lewd things like handholding.

the Vidya family are canon manlets anyway.
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Hey, guys. Used to be a writefag for /tg/ for the last winter ball. What's the plan so far?
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>>50209928
We are going with /vp/ and /his/ this year for sure, with /vp/ barely eking out the title of "date". /x/ and /d/ may join us to become a massive harem/adventuring party/huge roman orgy.
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>>50209961
That's the usual. So we've got /his/ and /vp/ as double-dates, this year? No drama between any of the boards?

Also, here's some of the collected work from last year. http://pastebin.com/dQLT2KXF. Only some of it is mine.
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>>50209961
>>50209972
I liked the idea of us and /his/ each taking a twin. Are /vp/ on board with that or was that purely our idea?
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>>50209961
On the subject of /vp/, they were talking about asking us to the ball this year round. Unfortunately their board is moving way too fast to have a successful Winter Ball thread because of the influx of normies asking about the new games and leaks. We'll have to wait until closer to nighttime hours to get any responses.

>>50209972
Pretty much. There's been some /pol/ drama as per usual but its been a fairly quiet year so far. The biggest thing I can think of is /trash/ trying to get everyone to take them to the ball and getting rejected by nearly every board.

>>50209988
It was originally /his/ idea but /vp/ seemed ok with the idea when their thread was up, though they'd like to talk to someone from /his/ about it.
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>>50204938

Fuck off randy!
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>>50210009
I'm gonna need some images of /his/-tan, then. Did Vanille and Viol change at all? Also, are we still mad about last year and Tiji? I happened to like Tiji's design.
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>>50210044
/his/-tan is Herodotus. just google him.

They have been talking about doing a revision of Viol and Vanille because of their birthday with Vanille filling out some more and growing taller and Viol simply getting a new hat.

Not that I'm aware of. Everyone seems to be fine with Teej's current design.
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>>50210084
>Herodotus
I just got done watching that anime about the singing statues. Now I want to write their -tan as a living bust.

Any art or stories happen so far?
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>>50210105
Not yet. Winter ball discussion just started yesterday. Still plenty of time anon.
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>>50210084
>>50210105
/his/ has two -tans, Herodotus and a loli who spouts /pol/-influenced misinformation
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>>50204117
Of course! He's our son. We've dated virtually everyone who's worth dating at this point. Why should /qst/ be any different.
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>>50210157
Well, we're going with Herodotus.
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>>50210242
Are we going with him as a romantic thing or is it a friendly outing?
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>>50210242
I don't see why the loli can't go with Viol and Herodotus is there to make sure she doesn't fill his mind with bullshit.
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>>50210277
Friendly outing that may turn into a massive roman orgy with the other members of our posse.
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>>50210277
Bros

see

>>50209175
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>>50208992
I like it
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>>50208992
Well, fuck you, dad, I'm voting for /his/.

>>50210321
Fuck. I can't write gay.
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>>50210364
Just write straight anal and make the girl have a wiener instead of a vagoo
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>>50210413
But then I wouldn't be into it.
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>>50210364
Just like straight smut, but use the phrase "feminine penis" at least once and the word "boipucci" at least twice in each paragraph.
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The twins have a birthday this coming week right? Does that mean they're old enough for lewds
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>>50210812
You're never too young for lewd.
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The /tg/-tan is easily the worst out of the lot.

He was originally a boring guy made as an afterthought by a /co/ drawfag and pressed on us (with people arguing that /tg/ should look like the generic 4chan demographic for some reason while ignoring that's hardly the case with the other boards), and now holding onto a bunch of sacred cows while trying to make him interesting has made him now into a derpy creepy guy.

I actually really liked the female /tg/-tan that was being developed last year, before the winterball thing was shut down.
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>>50211172
The winter ball was not shut down. Female /tg/ was shut down because people thought it was a fetish thing.

>>50210812
The twins had lewds last year. I wrote some.
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>>50211227
Which ones were you anon? I'm the guy that wrote the shitty Pokemon battle between Teej and Viol.
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>>50211252
I'll link some after my Overwatch comp match.
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>>50211227
It was at least removed from /tg/ and the other boards, aside from /qa/ and the random boards I think.

And, female /tg/ was never shut down, it just got one or two guys really upset. And, the art made was pretty far removed from being fetishy, especially compared to some of pedophilic stuff involving /vp/.

And, speaking of comparisons, even the initial designs and variants for the female /tg/ were pretty impressive, because unlike the male one, they were actually designed to be cool and interesting. The male /tg/ was basically just a side character from the start, and it's largely why he's never been all that popular.
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>>50211325
It's entirely up to you guys. I can post the images again, if people need the reference.

We can always have two -tans like our dates. /his/ has Herodotus and Historia, /vp/ has Vanille and Viol. We could have Teej and Tiji.
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>>50211325
I personally realy like Teej but that's probably because of all the OC we've gotten from the ball these past few years.

The ball wasn't removed from /tg/ last year. In fact we volunteered to be pretty much a safe haven for /vp/ and /x/ from their nazi mod and /pol/ respectively.
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>>50211385
Yeah, i really like Teej aswell. Mostly just because he's been through alot by now.
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>>50211385
It was removed last year several times, all the way up to the date of the ball. The end result was just everyone moving over to /qa/.

And, male /tg/ was almost immediately outstripped with good OC from just a few short days of people talking about the female /tg/. In fact, that's probably what got one of those guys particularly upset, because if he didn't stamp down on how much he hated the /tg/-tan being female, her popularity would very likely would have overshadowed the male /tg/'s long but relatively fruitless lifespan.

He's just a really weak character, and kind of black spot for /tg/ with it being one of the better boards and having one of the worst -tans.
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>>50211384
I think the whole 2 or more -tan thing has gotten to be too common. /vp/ had two tans to represent the two sides of the board and because Pokemon needs a second person to play against. Teej already has the ability to transform into a woman when flustered about rules being broken, so I don't see much of a lore reason for /tg/ to have a counterpart that he could fill the role of himself.
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>>50211472
>Teej already has the ability to transform into a woman when flustered about rules being broken

That's awful.
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Dumping female /tg/ images. There aren't many.
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>>50211489

>>50211487
As I recall, it was whenever people did barbaric and rule-breaking things, like putting a drink on a table without using a coaster.
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>>50211459
I don't remember that at all. What I do remember is tons of quality OC revolving around Teej and the vp wins.
You sure this isn't wishful thinking? Because it sounds like wishful thinking.
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>>50211555
>As I recall, it was whenever people did barbaric and rule-breaking things, like putting a drink on a table without using a coaster.

That's genuinely a terrible idea. It makes me really glad there's actually no such thing as "canon" for this thing,
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>>50211578
I think we might just have very different definitions of "quality."
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>>50211384
I like those names a lot.
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>>50211555
from the thumbnail I thought the last one would be jojo posing
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>>50211487
I think the actual/original rationale behind it was that if Teej gets mad about house rules being broken (like no coasters) he gets so focused on being mad that he doesn't maintain his form and randomly transforms into another persona or role. He's basically a role player whose appearance adapts and changes based on what's needed, like a shapeshifter bound by the character sheet. Him turning into a ca/tg/irl when mad was mostly a way to illustrate him losing his cool. Plus no one really stepped up back then to give him alternate appearances.
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>>50211581
Well, aren't you just a party-pooper.

>>50211252
Here's one of the things I wrote last year. I think I wrote some stories for the year before that, too.

A Subtle Touch (Trigger Warning - Hand Holding)
Part 1 : http://pastebin.com/8MPBUarj
Part 2 : http://pastebin.com/RfgZtPWg
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>>50211581
The story I like better was he asked /d/emona to fix a belt on some larp armor he was wearing and she turned it into a Belt of Gender Swap. Because the belt was broken in the first place though the magic leaked into Teej, changing his gender on rare occasions.
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>>50211594
>it doesn't appeal to me so it's crap
I'm not even against the idea of a female-tan if it means more OC, but don't be That Guy, anon.
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>>50211626
>>50211489
>>50211555
I think if we want to make a female-tan then we should wait until after the Winter Ball to do so. Throwing in a new character out of the blue seems like poor form to do right before e big event.
We should design Tiji after the ball (if people want to have two -tans) is over so she can attend the next year. That gives the other boards time to acclimate to her.
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>>50211701
You could always put it to a vote. I do agree that it would be weird to suggest now, of all times, though.

When is the actual ball happening this year?
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>>50211713
An actual date hasn't been decided but it's looking to be placed somewhere between mid December to early January.
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>>50209166
I think Golisopod here from the new game might be a fitting addition, simply from appearance alone.
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Do we, as a board, have anything in terms of actually asking /his/ and /vp/ to the ball? Does anyone want to make a suggestion, or are we giving stories to them again?
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>>50211770
Golisopod is fucking awesome but we'll probably have a discussion with /vp/ about finalizing the team. Vanille always breeds us a new pokemon every year as a gift so we'll have to see what they give us.
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>>50211788
/his/ has already asked us and we accepted. Perhaps we could do something a bit more formal but the nitty gritty has been done on that front.

/vp/ has said that they want to ask us this year but with the influx of normies for the new games tripling their board speed it is incredibly hard for them to keep a thread up and active in daylight hours. If anything wants to happen it'll have to be a bit closer to nighttime.

But to contradict myself completely: stories are always nice anon. I'm sure no one would complain if you wrote one for asking.
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>>50211830
Well, if they're asking us, I guess it'd be more contextually applicable to write us accepting.
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>>50211665
Don't strawman.
And, if you want the full explanation as to why I found the majority of the male /tg/ art from last year disappointing, I think I've offered a fair criticism that isn't simply "i don't like it so its crap."

He's an awkward character that gets increasingly awkward when put next to much more modern designs like the /vp/ twins, and his own evolution has gone from simply being a boring guy with a t-shirt into what I'm going to harshly but honestly call a try-hard spazz that somehow has become even less appealing.
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>>50211701
I think you tried saying this last year in hopes of stopping female /tg/. And, I guess it sort of worked, because you've essentially iced the drawfags that were drawing her last year.
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>>50211853
How do you want to see Teej portrayed as?
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>>50211867
I never said anything of the sort last year. I'm not opposed to making a female-tan, I actually quite like Tiji.

If the same thing did happen last year I don't understand why the drawfags didn't pick it back up after the ball. If you felt so strongly about it then why didn't you bring the topic up after the fact?
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>>50201640
/pol/ is with /o/ this year
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>>50211941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yBd5RY7GRo
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>>50211876
If anything, I'd actually advocate scrapping him entirely. Too many sacred cows, and it seems like the better ideas get forgotten while the worst ones get dragged around.

It may be an unpopular option to you guys who've invested a lot into him, but all the past stuff is just an enormous obstacle to creativity, rather than a font of inspiration.

When female /tg/, with the idea of not having to have any ties with the old model, was being discussed, the idea flourished dramatically. It's like people who were stuck in a cage were suddenly let free, allowed to explore ideas that didn't have to round back to some design that frankly started out rather lame.

/tg/-tan doesn't interest the overwhelming majority of /tg/, and that's a direct result of him just not being well designed, and getting worse as the years go on and the only direction behind him seeming to be "Don't forget that he looks like a loser no matter what he's wearing."

And, as radical as scrapping him entirely might sound, what's more radical to me is that there are people here who think that the past material is somehow sacred and needs to be respected, when it's largely just used as a blockade against what may be better ideas that they don't like because they contradict their own.
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>>50211941
That's ship made in heaven.
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>>50212041
Agreed. /tg/-tan is probably the oldest unchanged board-tan out there.

It's time for an update.
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>>50212041
That's pretty drastic. Again, it would have to be voted on. Where is the google doc anon from last year?
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>>50212099
While I'm not the guy from last year I am the guy who made the poll this year. I'd be happy to make another one regarding this matter but I do think >>50211701 has a point. It wouldn't be fair to the boards we are already going to the ball with to just suddenly say "hey you know that tan you asked out? Here's a completely new one with an unfinalized design." We could have a preliminary poll right now to gauge interests and opinions but I think its a very bad idea to make any permanent and drastic changes until after the event.
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>>50212166
Please make a preliminary poll, then. If nothing else, it'll see if there's any interest in revitalizing our board's image or if our board should stick to a solid concept.
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>>50212166
Could work on the new tan now, but only use the current one for the ball and the leadup to it.
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>>50212099
I can agree it's pretty drastic, but it's the sort of thing where I'd rather see drawfags go ahead and try to move and inspire people before the question of whether or not they should is even asked.

One of the worst things about the whole female /tg/ business is that there were people trying to stamp it down before even giving it a chance, or designating it a secondary or subordinate idea like they somehow had some kind of authority in that regard. There's nothing that kills inspiration like being told that your ideas are somehow automatically worse than the ones that came before yours.

Rather than votes, I'd much rather just say "Drawfags, go to town. Draw what /tg/ feels like to you, and don't let anyone or anyone's ideas hold you back."

Some people might want to draw Teej. But, I feel like many would leap at the opportunity to try their hand and say "THIS is what the /tg/ board-tan should look like," and I have no problem saying that whatever they try would have very good chance of being a better designed character.
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>>50212174
>>50212201
Could you guys post some pics of Teej as he looks right now? Wanna put them in the poll for reference.
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>>50205967
>>50206066
/pol/ already has /o/.
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>>50212095
>Here's something we should be proud of

>let's fuck it up!

How about no.
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>>50212263

Yeah this

>Traditional games
>Changing traditional tan
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>>50212099
Democracy is for fags. People can make new depictions of /tg/ and it'll change or not depending on what people draw and repost.
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>>50212041
>the past material is somehow sacred
It's /tg/-tan. Do you remember what happened when people decided to scrap the unified setting and start over?
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>>50212041
Even /pol/ went and updated their board-tan. We should do the same.
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>>50212263
agreed. this lack of focus is concerning, what with not producing a single bit of artwork for the event or pairing yet.
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>>50212041
Having been involved in working on tans, suggestions for opposite gender tans often makes me wary because females are often suggested for fapbait material (and almost solely fapbait material) and males tend to be suggested because people can't self-insert otherwise. I dropped out of console-tans when it became clear males weren't wanted and seen as a waste for perfectly good waifu content and the few advocates for other male tans were autists who couldn't handle women in vidya.

I'm just someone who wants to see more OC in general, but doesn't mean I'm not wary of past trends creeping up again that potentially hurt or centralize OC creation.

In any case, I think the best course of action for doing anything with /tg/-tan is >>50212201

We can work on redesigning /tg/-tan while people are interested in the ball, but debut them after the ball once we get a consistent design philosophy set. This way we get the most input going, no one feels like it was left to the clean up committee, and people don't feel like it got brushed off again to kill discussion and dissent for Teej
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>>50212263
>>50212283
>>50212288
>>50212298
>>50212303
>>50212315
>>50212220
This is why we need to vote on this.
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>>50212263
Who is proud of it?

>>50212315
The lack of "focus" is more of a lack of inspiration. "Teej" is just not an interesting or fun character to draw or write for.
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>>50212352
>In any case, I think the best course of action for doing anything with /tg/-tan is >>50212201

And I vehemently disagree. It's just trying to put ice on the idea again, and that's just unfair and even somewhat despicable.
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Alright. Here's a preliminary poll for the whole -tan situation. This is by no means the be all end all poll. This is only to garner interests and opinions on the matter.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfYK3PUhgKcnhvYioXKh5V5Q8ssEW6LU-1D2w_paraPSh4PUw/viewform
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>>50212041
>>50212095
But I like current /tg/-tan. He comes off as representative of the board without being cringeily overdesigned like some of these tans >>50211489>>50211555. And before you argue that some of them have pretty simple designs too, why even change at that point?. He feels, well... Traditional. It fits him a lot better than turning him into some bimbo with memes plastered all over her.

Speaking of which, why a girl? /tg/ comes off as /totallygay/ more of a "manly" board, anyway.
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>>50212447
Oh, fuck you.

>without being cringeily overdesigned

Where are you looking? Do you have eyes?
Teej started off as just boring, and when people tried to address that, they did it in the worst way, but holding onto everything that made him dull and then just slapping on costumes in hopes of it being a sufficient replacement for a personality.

And, fuck your gay shit as well.
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>>50212447
You might be everything wrong about Teej, compiled into a single person.
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>>50212494
He's 100% right though.
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>>50212488
>Teej started off as just boring
You realize we're talking about a board-tan here, not a some steel donut to parade as a paragon of depth. Simplicity is a necessary feature of the character since it allows for variation.
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>>50212488
people are bringing up reasonable points, and giving their opinions in rational ways, dont get defensive, or no one will take you seriously, please.
also, you are free to draw whatever you like, this is a collaborative enterprise.
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>>50212488
>fuck your gay shit

For someone advocating changing a tan because other people on the board are too afraid of new things, you sure are a faggot about opinions.
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>>50212447
I'm going to argue otherwise.

Out of those girl designs, none of them are overdesigned, especially compared to many of the iterations of /tg/-tan where people were just slapping things like commissar hats and power arms onto him.

Most of those designs are actually rather refreshing, rather than "cringey". While the catgirls might be a bit to on the nose, each design is rather simple and looks like someone with a history and personality, which is a credit to the original artist. Many of the references to traditional games are actually quite subtle, like the hoody designs.

They definitely make me excited to see what other drawfags could think up, given the opportunity.
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>>50212557
If the guy is going to try to press his fetish shit, I get the right to tell him to fuck off.
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>>50212514
We're talking character designs, and there's never any reason to try and justify boring being good or even permissible. Let another board have the background NPCs.

And, this isn't a new idea. People have already tried to ditch the old designs pretty hard, in hopes of trying to make something interesting, but the old remnants just keep cluttering up anything new and making it suffer for it.

The /tg/ board-tan really needs a clean break.
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>>50212609
fuck off, you try this shit every year pushing "new" original donut steel versions.
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>>50212609
you did also try this last yeah,
and again, i disagree.
i feel if you could draw, you would have produced but since you dont, after the vote comes back, i ask you to respect it.
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>>50212503
100% wrong, actually.
Don't want a meme-bimbo? Then don't worry, because that's unlikely to happen. And, if it does, that's just the natural forces of people's interests at work, and there's really no reason to try and selfishly stop it.

I can actually agree that I'd prefer to avoid the idea of a bimbo with memes on her, but I don't have the arrogance to assume that I should stop people from trying that if that's what they want to try. These old ideas of "legacy" and "consistency" are not helping anyone, nor is having "idea guys" shout down people trying new things.

Let people have fun with this, and stop trying to be so controlling just to preserve a character that's mediocre at best.
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Poll results so far.

>Do you feel that /tg/'s -tan Teej could use an update, redesign, or is fine the way he is?

46.7% No he's perfectly fine the way he is.
40% An update wouldn't hurt but we shouldn't change him too much
13.3% Scrap the whole thing and start over. Teej is a bad represtation of /tg/

>Do you feel that we should have two tans, one boy and one girl?

81.3% No. Two tans is being overused and we only need the one.
12.5% I like the idea of having both.
6.3% We should only have the girl-tan.

So far the preliminary poll is leaning towards keeping Teej the same, though the update option is not very far off.
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>>50212609
>Let another board have the background NPCs.
They already do. /tg/-tan is one of the most popular board-tan characters. In large part because of long pedigree, I would imagine.
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>>50212646
I feel like if I tried to draw something, I'd be met by hostility.

That is NOT a good environment for this sort of thing. Do you understand that? That your proposed vote is just another method to make new ideas feel unwelcome?
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>>50212609
I think you were saying this last year, if I remember correctly. If anons feel the need to draw a new version of /tg/ tan they will draw it and if other anons like it then we can go with it. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with /tg/ tan.
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>>50212674
Not on /tg/ though. And, compared to the population (/tg/ is actually one of the more populated boards), relatively he's incredibly unpopular.
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>>50212701
>13% vote to scrap
>incredibly unpopular

go hang yourself.
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>>50212688
There is something wrong about hostility towards new ideas though. The way that people here reacted to the female /tg/'s popularity was genuinely atrocious to witness.
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>>50212682
I dont know what to tell you, people will draw what they want and most people prefer the classic.
i can't explain why there are other opinions than yours if you dont already know that, anon.
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>>50212718
Do you have the numbers? I doubt you have a considerable sample size.

Also, relatively unpopular in the sense that he's basically forgotten until the winterball crew starts making these threads, and even then he gets almost no content made compared to similarly populated boards.
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>>50212730
>female /tg/'s popularity
Que?
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>>50212701
You clearly don't go to other boards much.
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>>50212730
The way I remember it people were pretty chill and not outraged barring one guy. They liked the female Teej designs but we ultimately decided to stay with Teej.

>>50212765
There has been 18 votes so far. 2 less than we had gotten from an entire day yesterday of polling for a date.

Wiping Teej clean has dropped to 11.8%.
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>>50212738
You shouldn't try to speak for more people than yourself.

"Most", as far as you care, seems to be a handful of people, with the overwhelming majority of /tg/ not caring at all about this thing, as evident by the thousands of people browsing /tg/ each minute ignoring this.

And, I'm willing to argue that it might be because it's very hard to care about this even if you do care about /tg/ itself.
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>>50212765
>Forgotten until the Winter ball
That goes for most board-tans, anon.

Anyway, why do these yearly redesign pushes never manage to live through the Winter Ball season? Is it just the same handful of people that keep coming back and demanding it? Seriously, if you want it so badly, just repropose the motion a week after the event is over, or try out what >>50212352 offered. No sense in making things so confusing while we seem to be asking out four different boards.
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>>50212802
I was speaking for the people that took the poll, that yes, mostly care. thats why you take polls,.

>And, I'm willing to argue that it might be because it's very hard to care about this even if you do care about /tg/ itself.

You're really reaching, and i see theres no convincing you. I sincerely hope you can let it go and enjoy yourself
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>>50212765
Because board-tans are not supposed to be a year round thing.

They are for 1-3 months a year for winter ball to encourage interaction between boards and then go into hibernation to give the drawfags and writefags a rest so they don't burn out/leave.

Almost no boards have board-tan threads outside of the 2-4 month window around the winter ball.
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>>50212792
>They liked the female Teej designs but we ultimately decided to stay with Teej.

Who is "we"? Who makes these "ultimate decisions"? You really need to stop acting like there's a sinister cabal behind this whole thing.

Female /tg/ was discussed fervently, up until the threads were moved to /qa/. There was never any final decision made, and in fact it's actually somewhat disconcerting to hear you pretend that anyone decided anything, as if anything like that even could be decided.

This whole business of "this is canon, don't mess with it" is ridiculous, and the continued hostility towards new ideas is unhealthy. The fact that people are still trying to stamp down discussion of a female /tg/ is ridiculous, ridiculous to the point where I feel I need to remind everyone that its insane to make demands like "we should focus on X" or "don't discuss Y", like they somehow feel threatened that people who actually produce content will prefer other people's ideas over those they've tried to establish.
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>>50212859
>Who is "we"?
please fuck off.
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>>50212852
They don't have board-tan threads, but other board-tans do enjoy some measure of popularity. The ones that don't are ones like /tg/, which just have failed designs that didn't catch or spark any interest, or belong to less populated boards.
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>>50212859
>Who is we
The people who were on the board at the time and voted in the poll. There's no sinister cabal or secret organization. Just regular people who liked the idea of the winter ball. If more people agreed on changing Teej than we would have changed it but it didn't get enough support to garner change and hence we didn't change it.

>stamp down discussion
I don't see anyone trying to shoot down the topic of changing Teej. I see people discussing the matter and saying their opinions.
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>>50212859
Look, the ideas that people like survive and are spread
Those that they don't fail and die, perhaps reposted once in a blue moon.

There's no cabal keeping female /tg/ down, there's just not enough people who give a shit about her to make her stick unlike the /tg/ with history (who never goes fa/tg/uy mode anymore because, again, no one cares about that bit)
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>>50212876
You are retarded.

You claim they are popular but dont have threads, that sounds exactly like /tg/.

You are the same retard from a year or two ago that spammed your opinion of the current version being a "failed design" because people rejected your donut steel designs.
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>>50212919
>>50212929
he doesn't respond to rational outreach, its a troll.
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>>50212876
/tg/ is one the most popular board tans out there. Its hard to find a non-lewd comic that doesn't have him in it.
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>>50212836
Eighteen is not a whole lot of people, compared to literally one thousand separate pairs of eyeballs browsing /tg/ at any given point in time. It kind of puts in perspective how these polls really don't say anything about the larger /tg/ population, only the people who are already invested in this.

Is it a surprise that the poll turned out like it did, considering who still cares enough about the board-tan to even bother voting?

Why bother polling the choir at all? It's the greater body of /tg/ that needs to be asked, and there's a firm wall that seems to be blocking their interest, a wall made of sacred cows and people defending them to the death.
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>>50212980
As an ignorable background character?
I wonder why he's so popular in that role?
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>>50212989
You really need to unfuck your brain.
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>>50213028
dont respond, it'll just give him the attention he craves.
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>>50212989
You just put a hole in your own argument. The rest of /tg/ doesn't give a shit. They don't come to /tg/ to bask in the glory of their board-tans design. They come to talk about MtG and 40k and D&D and the like. If they gave a shit about what Teej looked like they'd have voted in the poll. If they cared enough that they support scrapping Teej entirely then they DEFINITELY would have voted.

>>50213002
The only board that makes /tg/ a main character is fucking /tg/. Its the same for every other board.
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>>50212929
>There's no cabal keeping female /tg/ down

No cabal, but there's clearly people who have been doing their best to say "No, we don't want or need her" without even giving her a chance or allowing people to discuss her in the here and now.

In general, the whole business about discouraging people from deviating from what you guys are trying to establish as canon is incredibly heart-breaking, because it genuinely sounds like you don't care about what new people or what the larger /tg/ population cares or thinks.
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>>50213037
Honestly it sound like they've still got their head in U.S. elections mode and have latched on to some bullshit ideal to continue arguing about.
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>>50213002
You've never heard of a "straight man"? Teej is popular because he's chill and can relate to just about every other board, which is a reflection of how /tg/ talks about so many different topics.
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>>50212989
The vast majority of people on boards do not care about board-tans or the winter ball in general. This goes for every board. Maybe 1% of a board's traffic cares they exist, and that might be pushing it. Even with a perfect design the vast majority of people will not care. It's not proof that things need to change because "99% of board goers don't even know Teej exists."

If anything your argument highlights that if so many people do not care, why have board-tans in the first place if the majority doesn't engage with them?
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>>50213051
>The rest of /tg/ doesn't give a shit.

Why though.
Have you considered that it's because the -tan design really is that atrocious, or is it because it's no fun talking about a character that neither represents your board nor you have any real influence over?

When female /tg/ was on the table, there were plenty of people who never participated in a ball before suddenly interested, and a lot of that enthusiasm died when they found people here doing their best to extinguish the idea before it spread.

>If they cared enough that they support scrapping Teej entirely then they DEFINITELY would have voted.

That logic doesn't follow. Rather, if they cared enough about him, we wouldn't be seeing less than twenty votes to keep him, or rather, less than twenty votes that he's "okay."
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>>50213060
>ike you don't care about what new people or what the larger /tg/ population cares or thinks.

You think a few anons can control a ton of anons?

And you think anons can spot age?
You're judged by the quality of your posts because that's all we have to go on. Who fucking cares if you're new? You ain't shit just 'cause you're new
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>>50213110
We wouldn't see 2 votes that say he's fucking terrible if your points had any merit.
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>>50213110
You're taking apathy and lack of interest in a tan to mean what you think it means rather than consider the alternative that maybe people come to /tg/ to discuss things that aren't board-tans and genuinely do not care about or acknowledge their existence.
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>>50213086
>why have board-tans in the first place if the majority doesn't engage with them?

If there purpose is just for a small group of people to write fanfiction about their original characters, these threads don't even really belong here, especially if the only reason they're here is to try and advertise this project in order to net some people into producing free content under misguided ideas.

If the character is named after /tg/, then /tg/ should have the freedom to change it as /tg/ sees fit. What that means is that it should not only have the freedom it already has for any person to ignore previous material they don't care for, but that they should be encouraged to do so.

That's the key idea. If you like Teej, then draw him. However, if other people decide to try out different directions, they should not have to be discouraged by the obvious hostility people have here.
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>>50213060
The "larger /tg/ population" does not care nor participate and thus are irrelevant, so you can stop bringing them up.

And saying newfags supposedly dont have a say is not helping your argument either.

>>50213110
Because they are not interested.

You honestly are mentally deficient if you think that a design change would get more people that don't care to suddenly start caring.

It would be like saying MTG could suddenly get more people to start playing and reading the threads by changing the art.

No matter how much MTG changes its art it wont get people that dont play TCGs to suddenly become interested in playing.
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>>50213185
>if other people decide to try out different directions, they should not have to be discouraged by the obvious hostility people have here.

The weak die
The strong survive
Such is life

Make what you want, don't expect people to fawn over weak material
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>>50213217
>>50213217

Shut up Monsoon
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>>50213190
>The "larger /tg/ population" does not care nor participate and thus are irrelevant, so you can stop bringing them up.

They matter as long as the character is named /tg/ and treated as representing the board, and as long as these threads are on this board. If this is just some weird, exterior project for a small group, than it really shouldn't be here, especially if the only relation to this board is that the character is named after it.

And, it's not newfags in general, but new people to this board-tan business.

>You honestly are mentally deficient if you think that a design change would get more people that don't care to suddenly start caring.

Is it really that radical a thought? You seem to underestimate the power of a genuinely good design, though that's not all that surprising considering the horse you're backing.

>It would be like saying MTG could suddenly get more people to start playing and reading the threads by changing the art.

Which is true, and why they spend a fair amount of their budget on hiring the best artists they can and continually update their art. Could you imagine if MTG tried to compete in today's market if it still used art like the kind back in Alpha?

I don't even know what you're trying to argue at this point. Good design is attractive and makes people interested in things. That shouldn't be a revelation to you.
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>>50213270
>if it still used art like the kind back in Alpha?
You talking shit about Disintegrate?
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>>50213217
A work should stand on its own merit, rather than being treated as weaker solely because it doesn't match the legacy of people who mangled an idea.

If you really want to follow your own mantra of the weak die and the strong survive, encourage people to produce dramatic redesigns of the character.
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>>50213316
Damn
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>>50213270
So is this entire thing you're doing a round about way of showing that these threads aren't /tg/ related to get them kicked or are you just throwing a hissy fit that barely anyone likes your idea?

Draw you femme /tg/ and share it. The ones who like it will like it the ones who don't won't. This isn't a hug box safe place. Deride what you will, praise what you will for others will do the same.
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>>50213270
>He doesn't like Alpha art
Your entire argument is now invalid.
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>>50213318
>encourage
That's garbage
drawfags'll do it if they want. If it's good it'll survive. If it's middling, it'll be forgotten. If it's bad it'll be mocked.
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>>50213270
>>50213318
Now I know you are retarded, and the same guy I smacked down 2 years ago using the same arguments.

The MTG Alpha/Beta art style is extremely popular compared to the new shit art they shovel out. Players would gladly have the old style art return.
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>>50213185
Stop pretending people are trying to keep you down. No one is actively trying to stop a redesign from happening. You voiced your opinion that you want it changed. Other people voiced their opinions on the matter, and vast majority said they're basically fine with the current -tan. That's how it works. If you have drawings or stories or even just some concrete proposals for a new one to share, by all means do it. We'll give our opinions on that and if enough people like it maybe it'll gain some momentum to replace the old one. Otherwise, you're just an unironic shitposter wasting everyone's time because you can't accept that you're in the minority
>>50213217
Exactly. If people didn't like the current -tan, something would have replaced it by now.
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>>50213338
>This isn't a hug box safe place. Deride what you will, praise what you will for others will do the same.

This isn't a matter of simply any and all criticism. It's the nature and underlying purpose of the criticism. This should be obvious.

You're right. Fuck hugboxes. If someone draws a terrible character, people should complain, right? But, it's WHY and HOW they complain that matters. If they're complaining because they want the best possible character, that's good. If they're complaining because they want to defend a sacred cow, that's bad.

If you don't like a character design because it's ugly, that's one thing. If you don't like it because it's different or new, that's another.

If you're complaining to discourage an artist, that's horrible.
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>>50213390
>If you're complaining to discourage an artist, that's horrible.

The artist should grow some thicker skin so they aren't irritated by the slightest breeze.

No one gets a say in what kind of judgment comes their way otherwise yes it is a hugbox.
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>>50213390
for fuck's sake, anon
Could you please stop being a faggot?
For me?
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>>50213316
Some of my favorite card art is in Alpha. It is, however, stupid to believe that MTG would be able to compete with art like that today.

Try to focus on the main point, instead of trying to spin away in hopes of diverting the argument.
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>>50213426
>>50213430
Wow, what a friendly and welcoming environment you have here.
Oh, wait, it's only friendly and inviting to people who will draw your ideas for you.

And, you wonder why people hesitate to draw for you?
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>>50213390
>If they're complaining because they want the best possible character, that's good. If they're complaining because they want to defend a sacred cow, that's bad.
You're assuming everyone secretly feels the same way you do and just aren't admitting it because of [insert bullshit reason here]. There's no evidence for this. Please stop.
>If you don't like a character design because it's ugly, that's one thing. If you don't like it because it's different or new, that's another.
You're assuming everyone secretly feels the same way you do and just aren't admitting it because of [insert bullshit reason here]. There's no evidence for this. Please stop.
>If you're complaining to discourage an artist, that's horrible.
You're assuming everyone secretly feels the same way you do and just aren't admitting it because of [insert bullshit reason here]. There's no evidence for this. Please stop.
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>>50213460
See? You want a hugbox.
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>>50213460
>Wow, what a friendly and welcoming environment you have here.
Anon, where do you think you are right now?

I'm not being coy, I'm honestly curious as to where you think you are.
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>>50213461
No, what you're doing is demanding that no is allowed to share my thoughts, when there's already been people in this thread sharing and echoing them.

Stop trying to dismiss my reasons as bullshit, and face them as they are.

What I'm assuming has all been explained, cleanly and openly. You guys are hostile towards new ideas, and that's not healthy, especially because it impedes and discourages people from participating in this.

If your main interest is to make good content, then there's very little room to argue.
If your main interest, however, is to maintain this ancient sacred cow, regardless of how decrepit and distant it might become, then and only then do you even have a motive to argue.
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>>50213492
>>50213535
If you're saying that these threads are supposed to not be inclusive to anyone on /tg/ and are just supposed to be dedicated to you and your project members, then why are you even here?
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>>50213563
You aren't even following the conversation are you?

Draw what you want. Post it. Regardless of any amount of negativity you get take any positive critiques and roll with those. Draw more. Post more.

The only major derision that has been leveled against female /tg/tan is your idea to get rid of the old, that you think you can outlaw old Teeg the way you are whining we are trying to do to femme Teeg.

You humongous faggot
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>>50213607
This isn't even chiefly about female /tg/. She's just a fantastic example of what is wrong with you guys, and the methodology behind why the Teej characters is so unappealing.
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>>50213646
You are just filled to the brim with empty rhetoric.
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>>50213338
>Draw you femme /tg/ and share it
He already did. It just didn't catch on.

So he thinks this is unfair and that artists should be mandated to give him equal representation. Once we've removed the unfair element of "people draw what they want" from the equation, then /tg/ will recognize how brave and creative he is. Every time he posts in a thread, anons shall bow down and praise their better, the creator of /tg/-tan.
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>>50213563
>to not be inclusive to anyone on /tg/
Anon
you, on a deeply personal level, are a colossal faggot
Why /tg/ may be totally gay, faggotry is still faggotry.
/tg/ is not a nice and secure hugbox where everyone will agree with your ideas and send you good vibrations because you're totally a nice and special person with valid opinions
You will be judged based on what you say.
You, anon, are a faggot.
You need to lurk more.

Still, by all means, make femme /tg/. Make hundreds of pictures. Just don't believe that anyone else will care unless you make something interesting. Your hundreds of pictures won't mean shit unless they're worth saving and spreading.

And don't believe that the mere act of creating something new will invalidate and surpass the old (ex: modern art is garbage. Often literally). /tg/-tan exists this way because people thought he was worth saving and spreading. fem/tg/ didn't make it. If you think you can make a version of her make it, do it
Hell, if you want to make a comic with a fat furry diaper-wearing /tg/, do it
But don't expect it to catch on just because you like it.
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>>50213698
I've never drawn female /tg/. I just watched idiots like you terrified of how popular she was, shitposting about how she shouldn't even be allowed all the way up until the ball ended. People loved those sketches, those sketches those drawfags put their time and effort and imagination into, and you guys hated on her solely because you saw her as competition.

Some of you guys are genuinely awful.
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>>50213730
Stop speaking for anyone besides yourself, stop deciding things for anyone besides yourself, and stop pretending you have any power whatsoever.

/tg/ isn't you. It's not me either. And, what I recognize that you don't is that people should be allowed to discuss and express their ideas without having to deal with you and your personal brand of faggotry.

If you really think female /tg/ won't catch on, stop trying to dismiss her just because you're afraid she will. It's a fucking shame that the drawfags from last year may not be around this year, but who knows? It's too early for you to act like you're anything more than one person, and centuries to early to think that even if you gathered all the people who shared your opinions together they'd somehow be more valid than mine.
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>>50213753
Most of the opposition wasn't to the design. It was to someone who wanted to split /tg/ activities between two -tans, arguing that "every board does that" after seeing the /vp/ twins and not understanding why they were twins in the first place. And then insisting that the female /tg/ should represent all the "non-cancerous /tg/ hobbies" and that anyone who argued with that was sexist.

The idea of /tg/ just... *being female* sometimes is much less controversial. I mean /tg/ has that cursed D&D belt, isn't particularly self-conscious, and has been in a relationship with /d/ before - it would be more surprising if that didn't come up at some point.
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>>50214120
>cursed D&D belt,
Shouldn't he also have a helm of opposed alignment then?

What's evil-/tg/ like?
More rocks falling?
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/m/ had a thread once where it was decided that /tg/-tan turned evil would make an awesome villain for /m/-tan to fight. He'd be a theatrical figure, a dark wizard who always gave /m/ a chance of victory just because it was more interesting that way, and who /m/ would gladly fight to the death but would have trouble calling truly evil.
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>>50214236
Also, it would be revealed that Teej only turned evil because he knew that his friend /m/-tan subconsciously craved villains to fight so that he could be a true hero.
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>>50214120
>The idea of /tg/ just... *being female* sometimes is much less controversial.

I don't know what world you live in.

And yes, there was almost no opposition to the female character designs in the sense of design, because they're pretty good even for just initial roughs. Rather, the opposition was to the very idea of there being any designs.

It was insanity. Senseless hostility, with people posting to try and figure out how to either politely dismiss them or flat out saying that no ideas contrary to their personal canon should be allowed. There was very little argument about the designs themselves, and mostly just a few people unabashedly terrified of what exploring new designs would lead to, the death of their sacred cows. That argument in fact has put a taint on this entire thing, because it made it clear that any new ideas would be met with the same various forms of hostility, and even genuinely good directions could be sidetracked and discouraged just by a few fervent people.

It was disgusting to witness, and it's terrible that these same people are back here this year, and likely will always form a corp within this. A group that unabashedly hates people trying new things, and will do their best to discourage anyone from experimenting in a way that might lead to better results than what they've been producing.

Even just the general idea of a female /tg/ now is met with unabashed hostility for no other reason than they're too invested in they're "side" and they have convinced themselves they need to "defend their traditions", regardless of the cost.
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>>50214360
You being such a faggot about the current design being "boring and uninspired" for the past two years is probably a major factor in people being opposed to any changes.
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>>50214445
That's funny, because I'm not the first guy, only guy, or last guy to complain about the design.

If people complaining about a boring design upsets you, prepare to live in an eternal state of your jimmy's being rustled.
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>>50214120
>The idea of /tg/ just... *being female* sometimes is much less controversial.
>>50214360
>I don't know what world you live in.

Teej having both male and female forms (with the latter being a ca/tg/irl) has always been canon, even back when he was fat. The opposition to "Tiji" was always that it was redundant and an attempt to jump on a bandwagon that didn't exist.
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>>50214597
>canon

You're acting like that word has any value here.
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>>50214597
That might be you personal opposition, but I sincerely doubt there's anyone else who even remembers your ideas or thought that redundancy because of that was the major issue.

The opposition was always just because when someone suggested the idea, it sparked a lot of interest, and it distracted people from caring at all about the male /tg/. For the people deeply invested in the male /tg/, it must have been a horrible wake-up call.
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>>50214696
please shut up and produce fem-/tg/ content
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>>50214696
No, you where too shit of an artist to produce your own content so you are whining about everyone not adopting your version.
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>>50213060
>there's clearly people who have been doing their best to say "No, we don't want or need her"
Wanna know why?

It's

because

We don't want or need her.

>you don't care about what new people cares or thinks.
Well, obviously. We're talking about people that came here from other places and haven't fully converted into fa/tg/uys and may never do so but just leave instead. Why should those opinions be valued when it comes to something that's 100% pure board culture?
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>>50213646
The methodology is "consensus wins". You remember when people wanted to replace this /tg/-tan with the more interesting and elaborate design of Thelonius Girth, some years back? Some designs for him were made, people were happy about it... And then everyone went back to drawing the traditional /tg/-tan. If you want to come up with an alternate version of the character, by all means do so. And if your version is really better enough to outweigh tradition, then people will abandon the old version of /tg/-tan in favor of yours, and the golden age of tons of drawfaggotry and enthusiasm that you keep talking about will come to pass.

Conversely, if you're wrong and a faggot, your design will die out and we'll keep using the old one.

Because that's how 4chan fucking works.
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>>50213753
So not only are you persistently shitting the thread up, you can't even be bothered to put your money where your mouth is by actually producing some content?
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