Infinity General - Veteran's Day Edition (Also Polish independence

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I've got a bunch of these a few years back for a Marines Biker Squad I ultimately didn't make... Should I just put those on some Morats then?

Tell me your nit picks. What do you hate about infinity?


My personal un-favorites are:

The release schedule makes no sense, you get told enough information ahead of time to get you excited but in the end you're left in the dust for a long time on missing profiles, upcoming models, etc.


Most female HI suck and look like pin-up dolls and are hard to assemble.


Re-used poses.

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ARE YOU TEAM LEILA OR TEAM ZHUANG?

LET THE FIGHT BEGIN! #HalalBooty #ChinkCowboy

>>50199530
>crucial models still missing after months/years
>size sexual dimorphism
>blatant scale errors (domaru, new zhanshi box)
>burst is the only stat that matters in a weapon
>598763 CC skills (each with distinct levels) that never actually get used
>AHD means Carbonite one trick pony
>tactical debris is getting out of hand

>>50199722
>>50199530
Also I forgot
>Nested rules (rules within rules within rules)
>ITS specialist clown fiesta
>doubtful loadouts are released while extremely crucial loadouts are still missing (where the fuck is my rifle Wu Ming REEEEEEEEEEE)

Yes I have some stones in my shoes. Still absolutely love this game though.

>>50199530
Female HI are often a problem, with Mobile Brigada being the worst example.

Some weird rulings for some units (like Teutons or Acontecimento past nerfs in general).

The fact that they don't advertise the fluff better. Would hiring one guy to do a weekly column on random fluff stuff be too much? I didn't know what kind of wildlife NeoTerra had until the RPG preview came out. Did you know they actually have drop bears there? While Varuna section only has a broad description of the Helots, not even a sketch of what they look like.

Nested rules and some stuff being only in FAQ, like Religious Troop interacting with V: Courage granted by Martial Arts (which is pretty damn common).

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>>50199425
Morats? I thought the choice was obvious.

>>50199530
Honestly, over-sexualized female minis. Not trying to fapfinity bait, but it frustrating to see some super solid female minis (Jan ML, Hellcats, Wildcats) and some in a stupid booty pop pose with bare midriffs. Knowing that those damn guatemalans can sculpt some of the best female minis on the market and release stupid looking pinup trash really gets my goat. Goes double when the sexbait mini is the profile you want to use.

>>50199530
>Tell me your nit picks
Glad you asked, since you copied my theme here's my post:

- Dispersion. It changes every edition and every edition finds new and inventive ways to fuck it up.
- Criticals. Don't get me wrong, I love the crits themselves. My problem is that CB doesn't seem to take them into account when costing units, hence TAGs/HI seem overrated and high-burst weapons are so much useful for their cost compared to their B1 counterparts. Play a few games without crits and suddenly the pricing makes much more sense, TAGs are harder to kill, MLs etc. are more worth it.
- Suspicious costs - Posthumans (plain bullshit), HRL (more than just undercosted, it's a suspiciously big dip in cost compared to alterinatives), chain rifles (why ever take an unlinked warband with combi/rifle/BS when you can take another chain-smoker and one will survive, especially since they can smoke-dodge on 15+), high B weapons (see above).
- Sectorial-based release cycle - releasing stuff for multiple factions each month is fine... unless you're one of a ton of sectorial-based people. You got into the game for cyber-samurai? Well fuck you, wait a year while ISS gets their fill, maybe you'll get some random release in the meantime. Oh wait we got the bowninja, that's it for the Shikami in the foreseeable future.

>bitching continues in next post

>>50199530
>>50200500


- "no profiles left behind" when releasing the new Army builder. Well, except the Shasvastii/MRRF. Sure, they're supposed to get remade (instead of getting a new sectorial) in AF, whenever it comes out. If you're playing these, you're stuck with outdated profiles until they figure out what the fuck they're supposed to be doing. And I'm not talking about revamping the whole sectorials right the fuck now, but about the little but needed things. Morpho-Scan? Unplayable as no currenly available rules (not even FAQ, last I checked it wasn't even updated in the wiki). Also lost Protheion, we still pay for it. Protheion lost Dogged, did it get cheaper? Lol nope. Protheion is leveled now, do its Shasvastii experts get it? It took over a month to get them to acknowledge there's even an issue. Haris? Haha fuck no, muh precious balance would be destroyed by giving some secondary unit haris like literally every other sectorial (let's make the cheap line unit not linkable at all instead). Oh, and Warcor Aerocam having no rules for ages is the cherry on top.
Miniatures:
- female minis - Bare midriff in full armor/suit (getting better though). Catwalk poses while males have sensible ones (getting better too, if slowly). Tiny hands to the point where they look like miscasts. Tiny weapons (see below).
- Weapon sizes - FFS, give the women lighter/compact versions, but calibers don't scale that way. Same goes the other way, Gecko combis look ridiculous.
- Tactical shit on bases. I didn't mind having it every once in a while until every single fucking AD started to land on some junk (it was rightly mocked in comic strips years ago when I was starting). Also, tailored tactical debris with unit logo on it (Uhlan and I think new Akalis?)

>bitching still continues

>>50199530
>>50200500
>>50200588

- Rampant copy-pasting. In traditional sculpting you had to put similar effort per model whether you made a similar or different pose/design, so models tended to be more original. Now there's a ton of "change the pose in CAD, switch a detail or two, done". This would be acceptable for a same-unit box, but we're starting to see half of PanO/YJ use the same armor model. Realistic? Maybe, but if I wanted to paint identical stuff I'd play Space Marines.
- I wonder in which world the Samaritan mini that tips over every time you think of him the wrong way is acceptable. Not to mention the whole "S6 pretending to be S2" thing. Why yes I'd like to pay more for tactical cabbage I'd have to saw off if I wanted to actually play with that (and inb4 "it's a display model" the breaker combi pose looks shit too).
- Scale creep. Self-explanatory and discussed at length.

>bitching starts getting too specific to continue

>>50199530
Dumb poses: Uhlan, Foxytrot, Devil Dogs, male Domarus, Scylla, etc etc. It's much more annyoing when they already have a perfect template for that pose whether it's the artwork or previous version of the model.

Outdated models that could really use resculpts: JSA, MO, CHA, PanO Support box, etc etc. Shitty old models is what keeps me from starting certain armies.

Some shit still need miniatures (for me it's mostly Ekdromoi Hacker and Thorakitai. But there's far more for others). It's even more annoying when they need just that one option like the Proxy Mk2 Hacker or Asura Hacker.

Still no updated Joan miniature that doesnt come with a 40-50usd book that I dont need/want.

>>50199530
No premeasuring. I've played other games with and without, premeasuring is faster and better for everyone.

Needing to be base to base to gain cover. You can only see my through this tiny window but I'm not technically touching the wall tough luck for me.

>>50199530
Icepick grip. I don't dislike the concept of it, but it's been like a fucking pandemic lately. It's even used on swords, which is stupid in concept and stays stupid every step of the way.

Female HI being twiggy and barely looking like they're in armour. With Riot Grrls and Asuras it makes sense, but the female Mobile Brigada just look pathetic next to the males.

Reused poses when they don't fit the unit. With Zhuang being an easy example to point to.

Balance. They were doing incredibly well until HSN3, but you can't tell me Posthumans and Ghazi are fair.

A Multi sniper being 9 points more than an heavy rocket. I'm not sure why, they've always seemed about as good as each other to me.

Game's still good though.

>>50200884
>MSR vs HRL
I suppose the advantage of the MSR is that you get DA and AP rounds in ARO

Just had my first infinity match this evening (playing Ariadna). Now I've got a question relating to the light grenade launcher: Does the grenade automatically deviate 40 cm (I guess 16 inches) if I fail the BS roll?

>>50200992
I'm pretty sure template deviation was removed in N3

>>50200992
>>50201020
Sorry I meant the light smoke grenade launcher. But I don't know if there's a difference if it comes to failed BS rolls.

>>50200992
>>50201020
Its a bit of a mess. Many template *attacks* just fizzle as currently written, but the deviation rules are still in use for AD.

>>50200972
That reminds me. AP ammo is almost useless except against TAGs/heavy HI, which few people use. Would be much better if it affected ARM bonus from cover.

>>50201141
>Tags/HI, which hardly anyone uses
Depends on your meta bro. We see TAGs and HI all the time.

>>50201187
I play iss and I can't even go without a HI

>>50200992
Weapons no longer deviate. If you fail the BS roll nothing happens.

Deviation only happens on AD now.

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>>50201141
I see HI all the time. The thing that makes AP ammo seem useless is that things like the HRL or shotguns have a template mode which ignores the +3 ARM bonus from cover. So unless you're rocking 8+ ARM template weapons are just plain better.

>>50199178
>USAriadna
>Two Kazak units
wat

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>>50199534
The trick is to not select the thumbnail.

I think I'll like Leila better. Yuriko is still the best Yu Jing Dire Foe for me.

>>50200972
As an aside, AP mode on a Multisniper is only better than DA against Avatars and Jotums. Even against most TAGs DA is the superior option.

Going to be getting back into the game after a long hiatus. Gonna start/attempt an Iron Man League.

Rules are as follows.

1 profile maximum for each unit. AVA still applies (Only one Chain Rifle Kuang Shi for example).
1 specialist of each type allowed (Up to 1. Engineer/Doctors count towards your max of 1).
1 Combat Group.
1 Command Token. (Adv Command is nullified)
No Reserves (Strategies II drops allowing a single model).
1 List. (If playing a tournament or league game that night.)

IronMan300ISS
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10
HSIEN Lieutenant HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 61)
ZHÀNYING Hacker (Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 32)
ZHÀNYING (Fireteam: Haris, Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 27)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
IMPERIAL AGENT (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 29)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
NINJA Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 26)
LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)

5.5 SWC | 298 Points
Would anyone else be interested in something like this? It's meant to be challenging and rewarding (read punishing) I haven't drummed up any missions yet, but I'll try something after the weekend.

>>50199991
>he fact that they don't advertise the fluff better.
This bothers me, since I can know so little about the world by just browsing around.

>>50199530
>What do you hate about infinity?

-Nested Rules
-Lack of resculpts of really old models (Szalamandra...)
-Some really, really pointless loadouts
-Lack of fluff advertising
-Dispersion
-Fucking Criticals. I'm completely sick of instances such as losing FtFs to a B1 unit hitting on <3 against my B4 unit hitting on 16+ (during a tourney in September that type of situation happened to me twelve times in two games; I actually got a suggestion of resetting the board and starting again when my opponent got 7 crits in 8 FtFs on Turn 1 of game 2; the TO said we couldn't).
-Some LoS and cover issues; drawing LoS to a single 3mm square is fucking stupid. If we required LoS to the "cover" lines (ie, 1/3rd of the model), we wouldn't see so many stupid scenarios and shots through 6 tiny windows that happen to be lined up.
-Not enough pinup-style units. I don't care about your special snowflakes at the LGS. I like looking at attractive people in tight and/or skimpy clothing, and I'm going to financially support a company that gives me that. I don't care if it "makes sense". Nothing about the Infinity universe makes sense; you may as well tell Boris Vallejo he's drawing his stuff wrong too. I do think the Bootleg line is nice, but it's far too small and hasn't really been expanded upon since initial release.

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>>50199530
>>50199991
>>50200884
>Female HI's are too twiggy

It can be solved by pretend that some of the "male" suits was actually had a militarized fit girls in it.

I'll always do it on WuMing, Crane, Al Fasid, Az'rail and MBs, and it super effective.

>>50200607
>Scale creep

It already estabished that the RV boxes are the staple for modern Infinity scales thought, and it already been consistent for this past seasons.

i actually kinda relieved they left those twiggy N2 scale behind, shit's sucks man

>>50203843
>Not enough pinup-style units. I don't care about your special snowflakes at the LGS. I like looking at attractive people in tight and/or skimpy clothing, and I'm going to financially support a company that gives me that

You're my hero for today. Which, admittedly, is for the next hour and 45 minutes. But still.

Fuck all those sexually repressed people. Enjoy looking at some ass.

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>>50203843
I think there's a difference between this and the shotgun foxtrot and retarded stuff like the brigada that has to be a fucking skeleton to fit in her suit.

>>50204008

No there isn't. Assuming there's a helmet involved, if I can see enough of a model's figure to be able to tell if it's male or female, then it has absolutely no reason to be on a table representing a battlefield. Gender of models shouldn't even be an issue: they should all be sculpted the size and shape of men because women who are capable of fighting are going to look like that anyway. Women who have model-quality bodies shouldn't be part of the game except (at most) as HVTs.

Sculpting a model in skimpy enough battledress that you can tell it's female is incredibly sexist and CB needs to knock it off.

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>>50204079
I'm pretty sure even the hardest "This is sexist!!!" and "Every unit must have females even if there is lore reasons for them not to!" idiots don't think like that.

>>50204079
Well then some people still like their twiggy fem armor anon.

If you soo autistic about it then just grab those "male" suit and pretend there's a girl in it, and sell those twiggy fem suit to other players that not as autistical as you.

Shit man, they just pander to their customers and then you said its stupid and wrong?

>>50203930
I like ass as much as the next guy, but I also like heavy armour. There's plenty of LI and MI for your skimpy tight pant needs. Bulky power armour is the realm of HI, if they're just the same with silver bits painted on then what's the point? Male HI are bulky, why not females?

>>50204233
>Male HI are bulky, why not females?

Because what's inside the armor is bulky, obviously, and even power armor in this setting is essentially form-fitting.

Also, because based Spaniards give zero fucks about your country's sexual hangups. They sculpt what they like sculpting; would you prefer they slog through sculpting things they hate for a paycheck? In that direction lie a bevvy of GW-style female "sculpts".

>>50204301
>Armor should be skin tight with 1 mm plates
>Unless it's on men, then it has to be an actual suit with 1 cm plates
Kek.

>>50204315
>Unless it's on men, then it has to be an actual suit with 1 cm plates

The female models ARE using armor that's about 1cm thick, though. I think you're forgetting how thin 1cm is. Shit, the Agroterra Bolt cosplay was using foam plates 2-4cm thick, and it showed her off just fucking fine.

But, regardless, if it better shows off an attractive female form, then yes, I support it. I literally do not care if it makes "sense". There's fucking battle nuns dressed in leotards and furries and whores in chinese dresses and aliens in the goddamn game. Get over yourself.

>>50200607
>Sculpt
PanO and Yu Jing are supposed to look more unified. Also as much as I hate copying and pasting poses, I how they never go back to hand sculpting.

>Samaritan
To be fair that's what the silhouette attributea are for...but yeah, CB went full retard with the Samaritan

>scale
Icestorm set the new standard for the scale.....That said. The size difference with the Jannisary HMG and the Box really pissed me off.

>>50203843
>Pinup style models
I agree to an extent. It's what attracted me to the game, and I still love them. I really like the current rate of pinupy models. IMO there's just enough without being overdone.

>>50204233
The fem brigada armor only really needs to be scaled up a bit. Doesn't have to be bulked up. Honestly, their size was the least of my complaints. Their poses were just plain dull.

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>>50204352
The Wu Ming's armor is about as thick compared to the body inside in both, males and females.

Stuff like the brigada is actually much thinner on the female, to the point it looks like there is a skeleton inside the suit and the suit has been grafted on the body in place of skin and muscle. Which is some hardcore cyberpunk shit that would be awesome as fuck if it was on purpose.

There is making sense (The wu ming's arms are stupidly thin on both males and females) and then there is having no inner consistency within your own world (The brigada's armor is a completely different thickness on the female, despite being the same model suit).

>>50204301
Except they've made female HI before without stick insect limbs, and those look good. I haven't even got anything against the boobplate and robot ass, just those ridiculous tiny limbs.

>>50204362
The poses definitely don't help, and neither do those helmets.

>>50204407
I bet some fucking Bakuninite designed the MB suits.

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The problem with female Brigada is how big male Brigada is.
With things like ORCs female armour not being too bulky is not a problem, because male ORCs aren't that big either. But Brigada towers over the ORC, despite being in the same weight class as him. So when female Brigada are as tiny as Riot Grrls it's really jarring.
The other thing is that we have Janissaires with a female armour as bulky as the male ones.

I like pinup models as much as the next guy, got into the game because of Daktari and Carlota Kowalsky. But like some guys above, I like really bulky HI armour as well. I have no problem fielding ORC HMG or Saber Joan, but the twiggly little fem Brigadas are what's stopping me from getting the box. It's just a case of these particular models looking really bad, not a game-wide disliking of fem armour.

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>>50199534
Zhuang probably does more for the army he's with, but that is counterbalanced by having the worse model.

>>50199530
>awkward as shit poses (looking at you, female auxilia)
>open-visor helmets (the worst fucking thing)
>arbitrary assignment of LT profiles
>Burst is the be-all, end-all stat
>release of new books is slow as molasses
>some sectorials are still years out

>>50204411
>Except they've made female HI before without stick insect limbs, and those look good. I haven't even got anything against the boobplate and robot ass, just those ridiculous tiny limbs.

dude just say that your black and like large gorrila looking females with huge arms.

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>>50205396
I have broad and varied tastes.

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So Blood Bowl is back.
CB's response when?

>>50206514
It's actually been in the lore since 2nd Edition. Mentioned briefly in the background about Airadna

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>>50205431
If that is the pilot, who's the dude looking out from the top?
Also, is the Raichu any good?

>>50207103
That's a robot face you goof.

>>50206639
I meant as an actual tabletop game.

>>50207103
That's no dude, that's a camera. Nobody is quite retarded enough to have their head sticking out of their mech.

I like that people keep going back to that whole laughable "sexually repressed" argument, simply because some of us prefer to be turned on by real women rather than toy soldiers.

If you like anorexic pinup models next to your proper soldiers then good for you, but stop pretending that the only reason someone might find that stupid is because they are a prude.

>>50207200
>but stop pretending that the only reason someone might find that stupid is because they are a prude.
Name another?

>>50207183
Except the Tau.

>>50207110
It took me a long time to notice the little arms at the waist.

>>50207237
Not that anon, but I'll give it a go.

1: I'm not a fan of inconsistency within a unit. This is a case where I'll contrast MB and Wu Ming. In the case of the former the men are fucking huge with obviously thick armour plates covering their body, while the women look like they're wearing glorified skinsuits (and they probably are, goddamn Nomads). Wu Ming on the other hand look quite similar regardless of gender. A slight size difference, a different body shape and a little boobplate is all the chick has to differentiate herself, and as a result she fits in well (maybe not so much in terms of pose, but that's a different issue). Stuff like Riot Grrls is fine though. 'Sexy' is what they're going for across the entire unit.

2: Bulky armour is my fetish.

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>>50199722
>>50199530
>>50200474
>all this hating on over-sexualized female minis.

I suppose different strokes for different folks. I for one am apparently a terrible individual, because "stupid looking pinup trash" is precisely the sort of thing that I like. Are combat heels stupid? Definitely. But they're pretty and nice.

>>50207413
>that complete lack of trigger discipline

Shit fap-bait/10

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>>50207401
>2: Bulky armour is my fetish.
Sorry, but I cannot hold myself

>>50207413
Since you mentioned me, my comment about sexual dimorphism was about the ridiculous scale difference within certain units like the Mobile Brigadas where males and females may as well be from different troop types.
Nothing wrong with a bit of sexy, love me some pinup poses here and there (when done well).

>>50207413
Please explain to me the appeal of high heels. I don't have a problem with people liking them as long as they don't try to put those moronic anti-shoes on me, but I just don't understand why they're so beloved and I'd like to.

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WIP and actually kind of crappy but I told you I would frelling do it! Off-brand AANG!

>>50207743
It does a few things. It changes how the wearers calves look by slightly pushing the muscle upwards and it makes their hips higher which for most men means it's closer to groin level which has obvious appeal.

It changes how the wearer walks giving a bit more "swing" to the hips in order to move comfortably and encourages the chest to stick out forward and the hips to push out backwards.

It's not appropriate for a battlefield at all but try to fine comparison videos from the side of someone walking in flats and then in heels. You'll see it right away if the heel is fairly high.

It also hastens the onset of osteoarthritis in the knee, hip and ankle and can cause back problems. All good things have a price and so on.

>>50207820
Diggin the concept thin your paints

>>50207890
They've also been known to cause an extremely hasty onset of eatshititis.

>>50207820
Thin your paints. The forehead arrow is well done though.

So I see a lot of "your dudes" with other games, how much if a thing is that in infinity. I play ISS and usually run an agent, so assuming it's an agent working much at his own discretion alongside a bunch of henchmen sort of works. Are there a lot of people who run things like that here? What do Infinity armies normally represent?

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>Rescue & Highly Classified being two missions at the german championship
>German players think Highly Classified is balanced and Rescue is not cancer

>>50208765
>What do Infinity armies normally represent?
Usually spec ops performing black ops or small strike teams.
In actual war squads of TAGs are used.
My PanO is in Winter Camo and I basically fluff them as Nilfheim border guard. When Svalarheima sectorial drops I'm going all in.
ISS is basically law enforcement with little regulations, so an agent basically doing what he wants to fight the enemies of the State-Empire is pretty plausible.

>>50207820
I like it.

As someone who is consistently told to thin my paints when showing photos I will assume it's the camera making it look thick. It's frustrating as fuck.
People who have seen my photos first and then the models IRL did explicitly tell me I take shit photos.

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>>50207923
>>50208043
Yeah, yeah, I've heard it before. Would you believe me if I told you I tried my best to thin my paints, did four thin coats of yellow and that the yellow I was using was kind of spoiled and gritty? I think it got too cold one time I was moving from Cleveland. This "joke" model will likely not see the light of day very often like that one time I tried winter camouflage on a remote. So my caring is diminished as what other stuff I usually paint is usually pretty decent and at least I'm painting.

Anyways, here's the final product (or the point where I gave up). Oong is the pride of Huang Di. The only smoke-bender left.

>>50208765
It varies. As I never bought a rulebook what I have from the fluff is what I can gather from unit descriptions and the one scan of N2 HS. I feel like I've got a decent picture though. Most of the infinity armies are 100% deniable operations, usually pushed from corporate espionage or that crap. I'd imagine what I read from the booklets of op: Icestorm and Red Veil decently reflect the overall setting. TAGs fight in squadrons in actual wars (i.e. Guijia squadrons while only being AVA 1). These guys are all the best of the best. The badasses people call in for semi-secret operations. Frankly, it oversaturates the fluff and makes unit descriptions corny.

So given the low availability of fluff, they kind of end up as my own dudes. My JSA are all differently colored from the official White/Red or Orange/Green schemes, and I painted Oong here completely off the wall, but I've seen many people just prefer to stick the vanilla schemes and descriptions actually liking them. So it is overall pretty mixed.

>>50199178
Is there anywhere I can find PDF scans of the Fluff books from the N3 core book and Human Sphere N3?

I've been trying to explain the setting to some friends of mine online and they keep getting confused.

>>50209241
This is why I feel like we need to start a project up for an Infinity Wiki.

I remember there's at least a pdf of N2 HS floating around the web. Not sure if I can link it here but I basically googled "infinity human sphere pdf" and it was the fourth result on scribd.

Most fluff is hard to find outside of unit descriptions because then that would tempt you to buy the rulebooks with the fluff in it.

>>50208765
Personally for mine, I've got
>Haqqislam
Taskforce Hadir, on paper a counter-terrorism unit based on Bourak - the idea being that since Haqq was my first army all the terrain I'm making is Haqqislam themed, so it makes sense for them to be a home territory force.
>Combined Army
Terrorist unit on a deep infiltration ship. Basically the aliens from XCOM:EU's Terror! missions, letting humanity know that nowhere is safe.
>Nomads
HIVE, a crew of morally bankrupt mercenaries, colour scheme based off the mercs from Haze.
>Yu Jing
Currently fluffless.

The only one I've done any real fluff on is the Haqqislam guys, but now that Infinity's finally gaining a foothold in my area I'm gonna be working on all three of them to some extent.

>>50207116
Hopefully they give us units from Dog bowl in infinity and not a game. Cos that would be awesome.

>>50209287
There's already an Infinity Wiki.

What we need is an Infinity Wikia for the fluff.

>>50209306
I was talking with a friend. We were thinking about a football themed impetuous doggo specialist with D charges. The sculpt is holding a football shaped ball of d charges. They are crazy assholes obsessed with scoring, and they do victory dances whenever they "score" by planting a d charge.

Is this game more popular than warmahordes?

>>50209539
I think it's the least popular of the popular miniature games.

>>50209539
Short answer No. Long answer, No, but it is more popular than Warmahordes in select parts of Europe.

>>50209588
Could you specify those parts?

>>50209600
Likely Spain, because that's where the game is from, and probably Poland, because Warmahordes does not have an official distributor there IIRC (and Polish hobby store chains love having exclusive distribution rights).

>>50208765
I don't give a single fuck about "my dudes". I like the fluff, but when I play the game I ignore any backstory the gaming pieces might have unless it directly affects the mechanics. If I wanted that I'd play the RPG.

>>50204140
>just grab those "male" suit and pretend there's a girl in it

honestly, this. it works for Spartan 458 in Dead or Alive 4 and for Samus in Metroid.
Plus then if when you win a match you also get to have the smug satisfaction of your sensibly armored female troops killing all those filthy filthy whores in the sexist pig you're playing against's army or however you want to spin it

>>50204079
I don't care about the sexism angle, I just like chunky power armor. You'd expect the male and female suits to be just as bulky, give or take a tiny amount. They still need the same amount of servos/artificial muscles and armor as the others.

Female brigada are twigs.

>>50209600
Its also surprisingly popular in parts of the UK


>>50209361
fits way to well into Ariadna lore.

>>50204100
>Ace Ventura

>>50209600
Since the Icestorm release it's gaining considerable traction here in Italy too, nowadays it seems everyone and their mother is playing infinity.

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Post your army theme!
https://youtu.be/XUhVCoTsBaM

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>>50212042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtSPJZ-qlhA

>>50212146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKniXABsUeE

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>>50210575

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Wow that moderator guy is thicc. And what even is going on with the riot girl and moira.

>>50214015
Colossus Morlock looks great. The rest I'll ait for clearer pics.

Alright, new Onyx player from a couple of threads back here with a couple of questions.

- How many specialists is a reasonable number to aim for at 300? I'll probably always have the nexus hacker LT and dr worm, who seems too good to ever leave at home, as well as a EVO-drone and a FO-drone, as both e- and m-drones seem very useful.

- Do repeaters need to be in the same combat group as the hacker that want's to use them? For all the lovely drons and stuff I'll need two combat groups...

- HRL or plasma sniper overdron? To my understanding both would work well active and reactive (though I think the bonus to burst only works during active turn?). Plasma ammo seems neat, but fire seems hardly bad, either, and the cheaper price would mean an additional r-drone.

- How does the imetron work exactly? I can't really wrap my head around that, it seems. Must he deploy per Combat Jump? Does that mean he doesn't provide orders for the first turn? If so, that seems harsh for a game mostly over by turn three.

Sorry for all the possibly stupid questions, but the game is pretty involved and I still struggle with large swaths of it.

Also, I've since added a box of unidrons, xeodrons, an overdron, ikadron and imetron and a corax spec-ops (which, I'm given to understand, can be used as a nexus for the time being) to my CA starter, the drone remotes and the support pack. Lovely models.

>>50214102
I tend to keep around six or seven specialists. Usually with a couple or three that can gungho for objectives by some means (an example being malignos for Onyx).

Repeaters just have to be on the table to use them. Don't need to Ikadrons to share in with your E-Drone.

For overdron is matter what points you got to fill/spare. I tend to lean for HRL simply because it's cheaper.

AI Beacon units deploy by air drop before the game starts as per the rules of AI Beacon. So you get them first turn unless they deviate painfully.

>>50214015
morlock looks cool
moira is great
moderators look cool if a little awkwardly posed
I cant tell if sin eater is really short or its just the angle.

Riot girrl looks boring as fuck, hopefully we dont get a repeat of all riot girrls in basic standing poses again

>>50214102
I'd aim for at least 3-4 specialists, with at least 2 of those being good ones like HI, drop troops or infiltrators. Quality is more important than quantity in specialists.

Repeaters expand the hacking area of all your hackers.

Both are good, but the cheapness of the HRL is hard to ignore.

Imetrons must be deployed with combat jump, but they do it during the deployment phase so they still provide their order on the first turn.

>>50214102

>specialists
Try say, 2 specialists with some sort of relevant ability (infiltrate and camo is great, AD's another good one, or just general speed or resilience), and 2 crappy backliners (A 4-4 light infantry with FO, say). Dr Worm's kinda between those two.
>repeaters
Are group agnostic.
>Overdron
The Plasma Sniper's a fantastic mix of abilities. It's going to damage more reliably, and the range is fantastic. You're right in saying that fire is pretty good, although against most targets a single failed roll is enough to put them out of the game.
>imerton
Basically, it AD's during your deployment. They're effectively a figure that's only good for orders, but they deploy at the same time as everyone else.

What's an affordable place to get some mdf terrain? I remember seeing this one site selling a big bundle of stuff for like $100 but I can't find them again.

>>50199178
Have we had a new chapter preview for the RPG recently?

>>50214850
If that was Marc's card studio he closed the business literally today.

>>50214971
Wow, I really missed that train by hours.

Ah well, I'll shop around.

Any other suggestions?

>>50214876
Not since PanO on the 5th.

>>50214876
I still don't get why they removed the option to choose a career event with LP.
Also there does not seem to be an export option in the character builder anymore.

>>50215511
>I still don't get why they removed the option to choose a career event with LP.
That must be a character builder app thing, because it's still in the pdf.

>pan-o's maintenance corps wear no pants
We better get some men into those uniforms. It's not fair for the fags who play this game.

>>50215009
Yes. Do you have a cheap laser cutter nearby? There's a ton of free patterns and you can save a lot of machine time=$$ by not doing engraving & stuff you can stencil or do by hand.

>>50215704
Can we get Felix Martinez into one of those?

>>50214015
Well, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Hope the Moderator kept her bunny ears.

>>50215009

This looks nice, if you're willing to wait ten months:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-ii-terrain/description

Cardstock though, not MDF.

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>>50215704
Not feeling like drawing, but here's a scan of the art for ref.

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>>50215704
>>50216022
I'm okay with thus

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>>50216263
>Bubblegum crisis helm, just about
Me likey.

Woah man, whaaat

>>50216240
Separate Tech Bee model? Awesome. Great for Machinist.

>>50216263
>>50216275
>>50216287
Are those new Sergeants? And some of them are women? Is a Sergeant box coming? I expect the 4th model to be an Auxbot then.

>>50216311
Cute, for a treacherous alien.

>>50216240
>Tech-Baes

>>50216322
Now I wonder if Tech Bee is just an HVT or are they planning to make a second PanO Engineer.
Anyway, I'm calling y LGS as soon as possible to hold one for me.

>>50216322
>dat conspicuous hole in the releases
Looks like CB realized that Ariadna was a mistake.

>>50216319
>I expect the 4th model to be an Auxbot then.
Duh, that's what the combi specialist is for.

>>50216457
I'm a bit sad that one isn't an MSV spitfire or TO camo infiltrator. They could've used the HRL as the auxbot handler.

>>50216487
MSV Spitfire has been out for years. And combi girl could easily work as TO Camo infiltrator.
Order Sergeants have way too many profiles to be released reasonably. I expect a Spitfire and HRL/Sniper Sergeants in the starter.

>>50216441
Ariadna is the least played faction with the least played sectorials. And I blame corvus for thinking no tech = doesn't do anything but shoot.

They could make new unique hacking shit for the aliens that have no computers, but could never bother to do anything like that for the faction. As a result it's pigeonholed into like three tactics with very little variety on play style between vanilla and the sectorials.

>>50216552
>Ariadna is the least played faction with the least played sectorials.
Is it? I think it's the second most popular faction after Nomads here, but then I live in Poland.
I thought Tohaa was the least liked one.

>>50216322
>no marauders or minutemen
It must be suffering to play USARF

>>50216552
>Ariadna is the least played faction
It's the single most popular faction by far, due to both the anti-anime types drawn to gritty operators and the powergamer types drawn to camospam.

>>50216580
Marauders are coming out soon. We've already been shown renders.
There's no dates on those slides.

So it looks like they're breaking the one girl limit in MO with the sergeants (not counting Fusiliers and Trauma-Doc). Do you think we should expect female knights as well?

>>50216612
>>50216579
Nope, Ariadna is the least played internationally with only Yu Ying below it. Sectorialwise, Caledonia and USAriadna are the bottom two.

>>50216707
Where is your source? This smells like bullshit, YJ and Ariadna aren't Nomad-tier but they're played by plenty of people, while ALEPH, Tohaa and to a lesser extent CA fight over who is the least unpopular of the unpopular factions. Though I think ALEPH has been rising in popularity so I'm not sure where it's at now.

>>50216657
CB explicitly said no at some point in the past so I wouldn't hold my breath. They might change their mind, but they probably won't.

>>50216856
It'll be interesting to see what the PanO RPG book says about women in the knightly orders.

>>50216856
>>50216868
It wouldn't surprise me if Orders remained male only above a certain rank with Joan being the sole exception. Even Trauma-Docs are referred to as Father-Doctors in the army builder for MO. I wouldn't expect an MO specific Support Pack, but in theory you should probably use Sergeants for them.

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>>50216856
>Where is your source?
Official statistics.
http://infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=106
Outside of the US and Spain, nobody wants to play them.

>>50214015
Is the moderator still a bunny-girl? It's too low rez to tell, but the concept art wasn't.

First the Daktari and now this? I hope we aren't seeing the kemonomimi slowly purged from the Nomad Range.

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>>50216951
They're doing better than CA, Aleph and Yu Jing internationally in that chart. I won't contest that the French and Scots aren't played much, but USAriadna had only just been released at that point, it wasn't supported at all and nobody had any experience with it. Your original statement was that Ariadna is the least played faction, and that's just blatantly wrong.

>>50216300
Why did they start hiring GW sculptors to do shoulders? Same with the new Taskmaster, just this odd ass bulky crap around their shoulders and head.

>>50217201
A lot of the recent sculpts feel warhammery as fuck. No idea what is going on. Maybe the bulky units have been getting more sales, so they decided to do it for more units?

>>50216951
Do you know how to read charts?

>>50217264
Obviously, caledonia and USARF are the most played sectorials. Yep.

>>50217098
I find it distinctly interesting that the only whole faction that didn't see growth is Aleph. while sectorials may have lost players every single faction seems to have seen an overall increase (assuming that's what those are tracking and not just tracking use of non sectorial forces) except for Aleph I wonder if this is due to the complete lack of non greek units being released. especially as it looks like the steel phalanx and aleph bars are the same, those who did continue playing aleph are almost all greek?

>>50217259
Probably a side effect of wanting to offer larger models with more flat surface for easier painting. A lot of people I've talked to also think that power armour needs to be big and bulky.

>>50216240
>>50216275
Trolls. Acontecimento is waiting for hacker/panda load out. Not to mention how low PanO is on passable specialists. Crockman or Hexa hacker are highly missing.

Resculpt of support pack is long overdue.

>>50217440
There are very few vanilla units you cant use in steel phalanx. Also, the community seems to have a hard on for telling people "DON'T START WITH ALEPH, IT WILL MAKE YOU A SCRUB FOR LIFE!!!1!"

>>50217462
I'm waiting for the minelayer Regular too. Well maybe not that specifically, any rifle will do. They were the absolute worst unit to only give 2 riflemen to, there is no situation where giving a link both a sniper-sapper and a spitfire is a good idea so if they only release a hacker you'll always be one dude short of a full link.

>>50217474
You do miss out on infiltrators entirely and a lot of the high WIP stuff, but OSS could definitely use some more units. The old sculpts definitely don't help things.

I want to start this shit, which one i should buy?

>>50217606
I dunno. Which one do you like?

>>50217616
Just the basic

>>50217606
Depends, are there people around you to play with?

If there aren't you want one of the intro kits (Op.s Icestorm and Red Veil). If there are, it depends on your desired playstyle as to which faction/sectorial you pick up.

>>50216311
they are wearing a different type of symbiotic armour?

>>50209319
It's kind of a fundamental CB problem though and the price you pay for the awesome rules wiki. The fluff is the thing they sell books for, so you can't reproduce it ethically.

Also feel like the price you pay with amazing metal minis is that conversion is difficult. I see so many armies painted up in studio schemes because the feel of the game isn't big on customisation. They were looking in that direction with the spec ops (your personal unit, weapon sprues) but they fucked up the balance so nobody uses them in regular games and fucked up the minis by making them a pain to convert.

>>50218099
The TAG. Looks like a tag pilot to me.

>>50218489
It's a Sukeul. They're not TAGs.

>>50218500
Yep Sukiel so they look like they have a different form of symbiote armor

>>50216322
>MISTERIOUS THING THAT I CAN'T TELL YOU BUT IF I TELL YOU... OH IF I TELL YOU... NO JOKE...

It's still too early for another faction, isn't it? New sectorial maybe?

>>50218608
Tunguska? Varuna?

>>50218608
Probably the Manga and/or the Manga specific model(s)... like a fucking PanO Operative with smoke grenades.

>>50218608
Something manga related, or maybe Dogbowl or O-12.

>>50218626
We already know they're coming. They're not all that mysterious.

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>>50218974
>HMG
Somebody done fucked up

>>50218974
Besides the cool sniper. Meh

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>>50218974
MRW finally Marauder Harris:

>>50218974
So do they hold the MSV1 binoculars in one hand while firing with the other? I wish it was on the helmet like the Briscards

>>50216240
Found my new machinist

>>same they clearly have the tech base for it.

>>50216311
It's been confirmed on the forum to be the Gorgos pilot.

>>50218992
Handheld Molotok Gun.
Obviously.
:-)

>>50219196
>Sukeul symbol next to Gorgos pilot
>spitfire is marked as a K1 combi
Whoever put together that dossier dropped the ball, and they dropped it down a flight of stairs.

>>50217428
The charts clearly state that Ariadna is third most popular faction of them all. Caledonia outpaces some other sectorials, like Hassassin Bahram, Bakunin and in Spain all PanO sectorials. USARF in 2015 was barely released by Interplanetario.

Also these charts are from 2015, before Onyx 300pts box, Red Veil and HSN3. I think the proportions would change now, but I doubt Ariadna would be knocked down from 3rd most popular faction.

>>50215801
Looks like someone has drawn it, but they used Smagg's alternate colours, so brown with blue hair >>>/aco/992523

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>>50218974
Not a fan of that HRL design and the HMG looks kinda odd, especially compared to the Grunt one (pic related). Maybe it was supposed to be a molotok or something?
I'll probably swith the arms on HRL and shotgun guy.

>>50216263
>>50216275
>>50216287
MO sergeants are great. I just wish I had a replacement of the old combi ones, whose rifles look utterly out of place now.

>>50216240
I've been using the tech-bee as a Machinist for well over a year now, I think. Having an actual profile for them would be pretty sweet, especially if it's an actually competent engineer for once.

>>50216311
>>50216254
Shame nobody usus either the Guijia or the Gorgos, since both are cuties.

>>50216300
>HRL at ease
>firing SMG off to the side
Isn't that exactly the same stance as the Al Fasid? How boring.

>>50219240
Don't be so mean, anon. Designing that stuff is hard~
It's not like anyone cares that one weapon is declared to be another one that looks clearly different, right?

>>50219487
It's a Molotok. The HMG designation is an error.

And I've seen the Gorgos used occasionally since it got buffed. It's not a bad TAG now.

>>50219487
>Isn't that exactly the same stance as the Al Fasid? How boring.
It is, they just mirrored it.
It's funyn that both Al Fasids have a similar pose: main weapon at rest, aiming with a secondary.

>>50219487
>Shame nobody usus either the Guijia or the Gorgos, since both are cuties.
I will probably pick up and use a guijia for dat pilot. Or at the very least, they make good HVTs. Oyoroi pilot is a qt too

>>50219833
>the Gorgos
I use it sometimes

>>50216240
How would they even stat her? Considering the machinist, maybe Regular stats with Engineer? I can't imagine anything fancier.

>>50220079
I get the feeling it could be just a fancy display model in place of a pilot, since all PanO TAGs are Remote Presence.
Or they could make her more expensive than a regular standard engineer and give her higher WIP, kind of like with Bakunin Clockmaker.

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Just letting you know that generic Nomad Tactica is being worked on. Also all tacticas need to be updated to include Scarface.

>>50220550
>to include Scarface
I'm still mad about this.
Everyone I love turns out to be a huge slut...

>>50220565
>a mercenary works for everybody
>this is somehow wrong
Isn't that how all mercs should work? I mean, bar some edge cases, obviously.

>>50220550
I thought Scarface was just for this season

>>50220565
He's a merc. That's like being mad that a prostitute is sleeping with other people.

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I think I'm in the minority on this, but the Mk4 looks retarded imo. Mk5 is cool though

>>50220650
0/10 overdressed as fuck

Those aren't even his real abs. You can't like those.

>>50220692
*lick
Goddamn phone is trying to stop me revealing my vile perversions to the internet.

>>50220688
The huge pierrot collar isn't doing it for me, if I'm honest.

>>50220650
>pronounced abs
>tight pants showing the goods
>gas mask (sorta)
Mwaa, this hits a lot of good spots. I'll paint him with a bare chest.

>>50220650
Nomad TAG pilots > everyone else's shitty TAG pilots

>>50220708
wish we had a clearer pic

>>50219487
It's he same weapon plan, with the molotok having a smaller magazine. It's probably why they labeled it an HMG, because the model they reused for it is labeled as such internally.

>>50220650
10/10 pilot. All those other sluts can go home, this one already won.

Red veil or ice storm? Which better for new player like me?

>>50221187
The one that has the faction you want to play.

>>50220650
Wow, that looks almost overdressed. I'm kinda hoping for two models, a guy and a girl.

>>50221187
same, just pick the models you like most

>>50220692
>>50220965
>>50221175
I am kinda hoping there is a girl one with open visor in the works. I'm making my Geckos gendered, I want the pilots gendered too. I initially got the two-Moderator blister to act as pilots, but I've not painted them yet and then news of dedicated Gecko pilots came around.

>>50221210
>>50221288
But i like combined

>>50221282

It kinda fits considering that they're meant to be used in breaching actions and ship based combat. Some indication of vacuum hardening isn't bad, particularly considering how slinky most TAG pilots tend to be.

>>50221354
Then boy the CA starter or the ONYX box

>>50221376
>CA starter
But when? ;_;

>>50221404
Whenever you can get off your lazy ass to order it.

>>50221404
You live around dense infinity terrain or sparse infinity terrain?

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What's the bit the Red Veil Al Fasid's standing on?

>>50221481
Worse. I live in australia

>>50220565
Which factions can me good use of Scarface outside Haqq or Ariadna anyway? I play Nomads and PanO and in the latter it's a 50pts and 1.5 SWC subpar TAG tax for an Engineer while in the former I already have better alternatives for both of them, like Taskmasters or Tomcats.

>>50221492
Bostria's lies.

>>50221327
>open visor
>people actually want that
You are the cancer plaguing us, anon

>>50221327
Just convert an open-visored Gecko with a qt inside.

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>>50221492
Looks like the back of a Squalo to me. Had to do a bit of detective work but I was like 60% sure it was the wreckage of Pan Oceania (they tend to be the wreckage a lot of people stand on)

>>50199178
Pssst. Hey Kid. Here's my scan of Red Veil for you.


Don't tell anyone :)


http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/xjlY6Mip/file.html

>>50216918
I always considered the "father" part to be referring to priesthood. Like an old legacy thing. You could be a female 'father-knight' for example.

I could be completely wrong though.

>>50221500
Stop being useless then. The decent parts of Australia have good infinity communities.
Combat company has the onyx force boxes in stock.

>>50221778
Good catch, thanks! Weathered PanO blue it is.

>>50220650
Damn.

>>50216951
>Outside of the US
This is when I stopped caring.

>>50217624
Pumpkin Spice Latte huh?

Get Yu Jing. They are orange.

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"For Ashep, the most loyal soldier of Tunguska Jurisdictional Command, who fought alongside with his friends, Securitates, Kriza Boracs, Hollow Men, ZondNautica and Puppetactica. Respects, Carlos Llauger"

>>50223653
Someone has some insights on this?

>>50223653
>>50223715
Is legit, ashep is a spanish member of the forum

>>50223653
From the Pangalactic Tournament in Spain.

New units for Tunguska:
Securitates
Kriza Boracs
Hollow Men
Zond Nautica (Naval Zond)
Puppetactica (Tatical Puppets)

From the person who was there:

Hollow Men have STR not W.
Kriza Boracs are already designed (concept+colors)
There are no casts (metal) of anything from Tunguska
So, he has not said there are no 3D models. Yes, I'm being very picky here, but I'm so hypped I can't resist the urge to imagine things
Kriza Boracs are S5
Kriza Biracs are the first new troop from Tunguska that we'll see, probably before the new book comes out
They are so behind in the schedule that the new book coming out next year is, basicaly, impossible.

>>50223840
Hola ashep

>>50223840
>They are so behind in the schedule that the new book coming out next year is, basicaly, impossible.

Acheron falls for 2020 i can see it WHAT A TWIST

>>50223276
>This is when I stopped caring.
Building the wall early, eh?

>>50223840
So hollomen are cybernetically enhanced to a stupid degree like the Chimera.

>>50223840
>They are so behind in the schedule that the new book coming out next year is, basicaly, impossible.
Raise of hands who's surprised by this.

>>50223840
>Kriza Boracs are S5
Another HUEG model for Nomads? It may just be me, but I dislike S5 HI models. Azra'il is the only one that looks good and has a specific niche, everyone else seems to just be "HI but HUEG". Also it takes away from Geckos, who were supposed to be *the* Nomad oversized HI.

>>50224972
Also just to add: I was expecting to see another subterfuge model from Tunguska, not a big guy.

>>50223840
>Kriza Boracs are S5

Guys, I'm concerned Corvus Belli is getting into a pitfall GW did. They keep making unnecessarily large models, which and be sold at a higher profit margin.

>>50224988
Kinda. What irks me is that they're not some actually bigger suits adapted to normal-sized humans, just rescaled along with the soldier inside, so you get a feeling of scale creep compared to the even modern LI. Alternatively "how the fusk does he move withour breaking his limbs in several places" Space Marine syndrome.

>>50224987
>a big guy

Tunguska confirmed for having Bane

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>>50225217
That would be extremely incorrect.

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This is the only art I could find of the supposed big guy boracs. Stealthy BabaYaga Brigadas would have been great but i guess that is not happening.

>>50225241
Nicely done.

>>50225308
What if the S5 guy has Camo or TO Camo.

>>50225424
It would be a stealthy Taskmaster, which is cool an all but i feel like huge last generation power armor doesnt quite fit with Tunguska. I assume it will have Camo or atleast mimetism considering their penchant for sneeki breeki shenanigans.

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Looks like she has a pistol and a knife. So probably just a display model primarily, like the pilots.

>>50223840
Could be cool

>>50199178
>>Faction colour scheme creator here:
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61395031/Infinity/index.html

Is this working for anyone? I keep getting index.html downloaded.

>>50223840
>more S5 HI
This is becoming a worry.

>>50221327
>open visor
Please no. There's plenty of models without cool helmets, don't ruin the ones with them

>>50224988
>>50225168

>"how the fusk does he move withour breaking his limbs in several places"

Easy, just imagine how Terran Marine's PA or (modern) Fallout PA works.

Eh, i think Nomads S5 thingie was kinda logical i think, they salvage whatever old tech they can find and kitbash it with some of the wierd stuff they had, since they couldn't afford the more advance and compact one. And old PA was that big to fit all the servos and the old, oversized power supplies in.

And there was only 1 S5 HI per (sub)factions and there's also only few faction that have it, so "we'll sink into GW's dark side :((" is like you overthinked it a bit.

>>50225764
Probably for display. Although the original dossier from the first bootleg releases did not have one. Also gorgos pilot is mislabelled with the sukeul icon, so who knows at this point.

I sure hope it's a new unit.

>>50227564
Still a good proxy for those busted ol' machinist.

Or.... be kitty-vied a bit to replaced the vintage clockmakers.

>>50224884
>would you have them miss siesta?

>>50223840
>New units for Tunguska:
>Securitates
yyyyyeesss
>Kriza Boracs
yyyyeeesss
>Hollow Men
yyyyyessss
>Zond Nautica (Naval Zond)
a heavy remote tag/ remote?
>Puppetactica (Tatical Puppets)
our version tactbots or that Japanese unit?
>From the person who was there:
>Hollow Men have STR not W.
Like Uberfolk commandos?
>Kriza Boracs are already designed (concept+colors)
Cool
>There are no casts (metal) of anything from Tunguska
:(
>So, he has not said there are no 3D models. Yes, I'm being very picky here, but I'm so hypped I can't resist the urge to imagine things
>Kriza Boracs are S5
Doesn't feel sneaky
>Kriza Biracs are the first new troop from Tunguska that we'll see, probably before the new book comes out
>They are so behind in the schedule that the new book coming out next year is, basicaly, impossible.
to many siestas

Hello

>>50225241
bane?

>>50230248
That was the 'joke', yes. Well done, anon.

>>50228168
Out of curiosity, why is everybody so excited for Securitates? I mean, I am happy for you lot, but I don't really get it. The old model was boring bar maybe the hat and the profile didn't much impress me, either.
Now, those Hollow Men and Puppentactica, those sound interesting.

>>50231337
They're apparently going to get trenchcoats to go with their nice hats when they're updated, as well as profiles that don't suck. I'm guessing they'll lose their sixth sense and repeater except with specific loadouts, since those are the reason they're so expensive right now.

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>>50231337
Because Securitates are so shit the only way to go is up.

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>>50223840
>They are so behind in the schedule that the new book coming out next year is, basicaly, impossible.
JUST

>>50231448
>that thing between the tits
Is she a gardevoir?

God damn it CB you had one job

>Tech Bee has tube top and bikini bottom
>not bikini top and short shorts

I was all set to do an arm and headswap with a Posthuman and Avicenna to make a Yoko miniature but no, apparently not

>Nomad pilots are guys in full body armour
>PanO Maintenance Battalion works in swimsuits
Who is the degenerate again?

>>50231915
>Nomad pilots wear latex-suits, gas masks and cargo pants
Yeah, I wonder.

>An EVO Hacking Device automatically provides a +3 PH Bonus to the Airborne Deployment Special Skill. This Bonus is not cumulative with the Controlled Jump Supportware Hacking Program, nor with the Bonus provided by other additional EVO Hacking Devices
Does this affect only the EVO hacker? The wording isn't entirely clear.

>>50231980
It applies to the entire army. No EVO hackers actually have airborne deployment, so it would be a little pointless if it only worked on them.

>>50231996
So, as long as the EVO is alive, the Controlled Jump hack is pointless then, right? Also, does this affect AI beacons?
Sorry for all the questions, I am still trying to find my way around the game.

>>50232080
>So, as long as the EVO is alive, the Controlled Jump hack is pointless then, right?
Yes. It spares you an Order.

>Also, does this affect AI beacons?
IIRC it does not.

>>50232080
Yes to the first question, no to the second.

>>50232102
>>50232100
Oh poo, I had hoped to get around the scattering Imetrons, which seems like something that could really screw you over.

>>50232171

There's a reason they're almost free. They're a great facilitator of the typically expensive Aleph or Combine lists, by freeing up points. And if you position them right, there's little change of them, at least, scattering off the board.

I wish we had a better picture of the Sukuel render

>>50214015
Isn't the third guy just the bald Acon regular again (minus sunglasses)?

>>50220708
First Leila Sharif, now this
>we '80s glam rock now

>>50218974

Holy shit finally!

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>>50232891
>we '80s glam rock now

FUCK YEESSSSSS

THE AGE OF FLOOFINITY IS COMING!
WE'RE NEED OUR 80s FLUFFY MERCENARY CATGIRLS NAW!

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>>50233062
Knight Saber mercenary unit when?

>>50232327
I really like them as a gameplay element when Posthumans are in play and they have this double use. Wouldn't mind if other armies had sort of in-list objective markers like that.

Otherwise in two minds. They enable annoying 200 pts lists, but also let elite armies pull off the secondary combat group at 300 (feel like 300pt : 10 orders counting rods is kind of dumb and leaves you open to getting swept on turn one).

Aiming to build a really agressive list since i hate playing only by response.

What units are really vital to make the meanest alpha strike with hassassin bahram ?

On a different note, what makes Ghazi so good ? never used them

>>50233360
An Asawira+Muyib haris team can lay down some serious hurt. Ghazi and Fidays are always useful, and Ragiks can help with flanking. The non sniper Ayyar profiles might be good for your purposes too, but I've never seen them in action so I don't know for sure.

Ghazi can completely neuter any unit that gets close for the rest of the game, and they can do this through a wall. That alone would be very nasty and arguably make them better assault hackers than assault hackers, but they also get smoke grenades, dogged, chain rifles and a fucking E/M large template. For 5 points. They're vicious little fucks I've learnt to fear, and my local Haqq player doesn't even use their smoke.

>>50233120
I need a source on those models.

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>>50233500
>all that for 5 points
who thought this was okay ? my local meta is pretty casual, so i'd get stomped in the nuts for bringing shit like that.

But thanks for the advice on the list man. I'm on the phone right now, so i can't check, but are Bashi bazouk also avaible for bahram ? i wanna go all out offensive.

>>50233563
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/bgc-figures.html
They are not very good, unfortunatly.

>>50233360
Fiday's a bit of a no brainer. Ragik's are absolute hell as well. Ghazi are a nasty tar pit style unit and picket for attack forces quite nicely. Muyibs are also far more dangerous than they have any right to be.

>>50233569
They're a pretty typical war band unit, really. Remember most of the time just chain rifling the other guy's the more productive course of action. Most figures don't have more than one wound, and those that do often have the BTS to survive the jammer hit. Plus it doesn't have the template advantages that using a regular CR would.

It's a useful extra, but nothing too remarkable.

>>50233606
They are really not typical. I say that as their biggest fan. Normal warbands have weak area control but can murder elite shit if they chance to get into B2B. Which is more often an unrealised area control threat.

The Marat can threaten those same costly targets from a further distance with less order usage than close combat, which hugely increases their tactical value. Throw in no-LOS attacks and you have an all spectrum nightmare.

They are notorious for a reason and even better in Vanilla with Djans

>>50233569
They're op right now, but if you ignore the smoke grenades then they're just a good warband. Jammers only really shine when you can use them through walls, and with mandatory impetuous that positioning can be difficult if you don't want them to run in front of a TR remote next turn like the retards they are. They suffer from the usual warband problems, though dogged offsets them somewhat. They're extremely dangerous against absolutely everything at short range, but they need to get there first.

>>50233600
They are also 25mm, not 28mm.

Kek, as always the TechBee preview has stirred up a shitstorm in the official forum. And then people say WE are the internet hate machine.

>>50234002
Pretty much since the start CB has had pinup models. Find it funny it's only recently I regularly see complaints about it.

>>50234087
Popularity breeds contempt.

Of course, so does obscurity.

>>50234002
Why is this an issue now? Cheesecake and Infinity have been joined at the hip since the start, more or less.
Nevermind the fact that the Tech-Bees have been a thing for several years as well.
This is not a new development, people!

>>50234192
Bbbbut muh sexism and objectification and and and

>>50234192
Pretty mych this. I remember one of the first things my friend told me when introducing me Infinity was "yeah, there is quite a lot of fanservice in this game".
I knew what to expect when I started playing, and can't understand where do those people come from with all the criticism. Didn't they get the memo that spaniards like busty girls and pinup poses?

Not to speak that you can give the model a skntight pantsuit with just a paintjob...

>>50234334
"But it's bad anyway because other people can buy it and if someone fields such model against me and enjoys playing it I'll be forced to hate him and this is bad"

>>50234383
As I see it it's more like a group of friends going to a bachelor party in a strip club and upon entering one of them goes "OMG but there are strippers in this club! Disgusting! how dare you sexist pigs eye-rape these poor unfortunate girls!".

Just what were those people expecting, really? Have they ever looked at the online catalog once in their lives before committing to this game?

>>50234002
It's the same 2-3 mega-autists who can't get over 'scale change' (for the better), or hating on 3d sculpting (which is better), or how their faction isn't getting their shit. Or weird shit like one person hating on the Guijia model still.

>>50234491
And even then, nothing is stopping you from just painting the model with leggings instead. My Tech-Bee has pulled duty as a Mechanic ever since released and I just painted her to have hotpants on, since stockings and a thong felt off to me (mostly since it kinda clashes with the vest)
Doesn't mean I will not think less of anyone else for their sexy mechanics. And even if it did, what kind of sad person would I have to be to actually begrudge anyone for them, let alone actually voice that?

Do you think it's the same Tech Bee or TWINS THEY WERE

>>50233761
>B2B
Except even the average HI has a pretty decent chance of taking a wound from a CR. In the meantime, they're taking time and energy away from those figures. Smoke and CR and impetuous are the real advantages here.
>can threaten
Can being the operative word. Not much more than others, and a lot of the time, the jammer's the worse option. CC is far from required.
>notorious
Eh, like camo spam and rambo tactics are notorious. People overreact to a lot of things.

>>50234763
I'm putting my pesos on it being a clone program. Octuplets, they were. Sort of like an Officer Jenny/Nurse Joy style arrangement.

>>50234192
>>50234383

While I agree with you, it is worth saying there is a limit to some peoples suspension of disbelief. There is also something to be said about retaining some kind of logical design to models verse over the top comic book booty.

I think a good example is the female foxtrot. A completely fine model that has a weird nonsensical pose. USA is supposed to be a military society so why does this bitch look like she doesn't know how to hold a fire arm. Its fucking stupid. On the converse there are a lot of models in nomads that are straight take out from Cheesecake Factory, but that kind of stuff fits their theme so its fine.

The Tech-Bee having no pants is pretty silly from that perspective. It just looks out of place when put next to the a lot of other models in that faction. Not to mention doing maintenance with so much exposed skin is idiotic. They likely won't make a different model, which means you are kind of stuck with it if you wanted to do something like make a TAG diaorama or use her as a HVT in a factory or something.

It is hardly a big deal and the SJW are also playing the wrong game, but that doesn't make its okay to take the cake to 11.

>>50235023
Hit send too early.

End should read, to take the cake to 11 all the time.

>>50234604
>can't get over 'scale change'
>hating on 3d sculpting (which is better)
>how their faction isn't getting their shit
>one person hating on the Guijia model still.

For the record, I'm not on their side, I love me some cheesecake.

>>50235023
This is a perfectly valid argument. Rambling about women objectification and sexism in a miniature game like I've read in other places is definitely not.

Personally I'm of the same opinion. I don't particularly love fanservice and don't have any really cheesecake model (I'm not avoiding them, it just happens that my faction doesn't have anything outstanding), and it's true that in certain occasion it could infringe the suspension of disbelief.

But fuck me if I'm ever going to complain to another player for how they decide to spend their money and time, even if I don't personally buy it they have all the rights to purchase and enjoy their cheesecake. At most I'll see it in the occasion me and him have a game together, and that's it. But apparently repressing their SJW tendencies for the time of one match is too much to ask to certain people.

Also, for all the clamor about the plague female objectification, never once I've heard someone question other possible """problematic""" situations. For example Kuang Shi lore is absolutely morally abhorrent, but apparently political protesters brainwashed and used as human bombs is less problematic than a chick going to work in panties.

>>50235023
>A completely fine model that has a weird nonsensical pose
This meme has to die. Foxtrot pose is fine. Women have different center of gravity and she's hip firing.

Does coming back from Unconscious due to Automedikit or Regeneration trigger an ARO?

Alternatively, does from firing a medikit out of LoF from any enemy to an unconscious trooop in LoF of someone cause an ARO directed at the unconscious troop?

>>50235787
Yes.
No.

>>50235605
Funnily enough if you add a cigarette the model looks way better.

>>50235605

That isn't how shooting works.

Can you surprise shot a hacking attack through a repeater?

>>50236203
Yes.

>>50235605
Foxtrot feels very acceptable. Much better than the new marauder's super stoic shotgun pose, too.

>>50236138
>noguns country
>knowing anything about how to shoot guns
They have a valid excuse.

>>50236584
>guns country
>thinking that excuses blatantly shit opinion

>>50234297
>Bbbbut muh sexism and objectification and and and
wait really?

>>50237586
Check their forums, it's some tumblr tier "sexual minis means women won't be paid the same as men and will be disciminated against, fuck you Corvus!" Horseshit going on. It's pathetic. One thing is to dislike various poses or models for beong retarded, another is to borderline be blaming corvus for random shit going on in society. A guy was blaming gays being discriminated against on the tech bees. Fuck those faggots.

>>50238219
I just read through it. Fucking cancer.

>>50238635
Boy oh boy, the offical GW forums they recently announced will be a joy to witness.

These are literally just two people. Don't demonize 'SJW' whatever for this, it's two people who are upset that also Wildcats aren't getting a resculpt.

There's even one guy who thinks the new Hac Taos are ugly and proof that 3D Sculpting doesn't work. However that works, I don't know.

>>50239016
>don't demonize SWJ for this
The nigga just claimed he's a "feminist and proud of it." and he and a few others went on extended rants about sexism bullshit.

The SJW shits are why I don't post all that much over there

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So, Onyxewblood here. I've been busy reading up on my chosen faction and I've been wondering: Shouldn't Ko Dali be availiable to Onyx? I mean, it seems like they take missions with a similar profile that she does.

>>50239016
>Don't demonize 'SJW' whatever for this
No need, they got their own PR covered.

>>50199178
I just had a terrifying thought.

Since The Party in Yu Jing are pretty much "No Fun Allowed" incarnate, have the banned Maid Cafes?

This is relevant because of they Japanese majority Kuraimori region.

New thread, get in here >>50239915

>>50239707
Not really. Onyx has the Sygma/turned Tohaa, Ko Dali is sepsitorized and probably under a more direct command of the EI. They just adapted the Tohaa equipment they had on hand for her AD suit.

>>50237586
No, not really, I was just poking fun at SJWs.