Warhammer 40K General

First for CSM.

In your opinion, which army has the most interesting lore?

How common is it just to collect an army as decoration and just make them really good looking, not to primarily play with them, even if it comes up once in a while?

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>>50193579

Sisters.
I kid you not.

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>>50193579
Dark Angels. They're a bunch of tree hating robe wearing space knights who want to atone for their brothers' betrayal and escape their cycle of guilt. Take this creepy Craglist's add.

>>50193579
Chaos Space Marines. There's so many different things you can do with them fluff-wise and almost none of them have rules support.

Eldar are let down by poor writers consistently making them look like blind morons. Orks are let down by a lack of good writing from their perspective. Tyranids were ruined by Swarmlord shit. Necrons still don't have much flavor, and what little they have is concentrated almost entirely on a couple characters. Space Marine fluff too often devolves into stale accounts of marines shooting bolters are bad guys.

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>>50193588
As much as I like the sisters, they need a real sallet.

>>50193579
Chaos Daemons, their stories are ridiculous.
Tzeentch drop his Lord of Changes to the well.
Chaos gods drop Tzeentcht from the mountain(are there any in the warp?) and he broke in to pieces, so he made 2 horrors to find those pieces.
Nurgling drink Nurgle's shit and become sad Great Unclean One.
Daemonette dance to please Slaanesh, and he says GTFO!
Bloodthirster atack Khorne, so blood god drop him from his citadel, after that this bloodthirster become most devoted of Khorne daemons and still lazy bitch on skull throne says FUCK YOU!

>>50193560
>First for CSM.
How would you do an army composed of corrupted Space Marines, Eldar, and Orks?

Video related, assume that they're stuck on a Khornate Daemon World until they all get corrupted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZgyNoHtjw

What I'm thinking:
Space Marine Captain: Chaos Lord (HQ)
Tactical Marines: Chaos Space Marines (Troops)
Imperial Knight-Paladin: Chaos Knight-Paladin (Lord of War)
Deff Dread: Hellbrute w/ 2 Power Fists, 1 Heavy Flamer, 1 Combi-Bolter (Elite)
Orks Boyz: ??? (Cultists w/ Mark of Nurgle, maybe?)
Eldar Wraithknight: Chaos Decimator Daemon Engine? Chaos Contemptor Dreadnought? Daemon Prince?
Howling Banshees: Chosen with Power Swords and Bolt Pistols?

I know that CSM are terrible to the point where it becomes a meme, but would a Walker-heavy list be decent for them?

>>50193633
>Chaos gods drop Tzeentcht from the mountain(are there any in the warp?)
They might have just poofed one up, or used Bigger Bird as a trampoline/bouncy castle.

>>50193642
>would a non-superheavy-walker list be decent
No, don't be stupid.

>>50193614
IIRC some dudes in 40k already had almost-sallets as their helms. Maybe adeptus arbites?

>>50193588
Is the 6th Edition Sisters update in the OP rules stash?

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>>50193665

Yeah, Skitarii Vanguard.

>>50193583
Not uncommon. GW puts out amazing models. You'll be happier for not having gaming be your primary focus. Warhammer isn't worth it if you don't love working on models.

>>50193673

>>https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI
>>Warhammer 40,000
>>Codex - Adepta Sororitas

>>50193579
Most factions have something about them I really like.

My first army were Dark Angels though.
First off what I like about Space Marines is, that in order to protect humanity they have to become something inhuman.

And the psychology of the Dark Angels is pretty interesting too. Half the Chapter turns traiter the other does not. Out of shame the loyalist half tries to keep the traitor half a secret and 'correct' the mistake themselves. But in order to do so they end up killing witnesses to their purge. So what started up as the wish for redemption is now a self righteous crusade that is turning out to be just as corrupting as the original betrayal.
They are caught up to deep in a web of lies to escape from and their struggle only makes it worse for everybody.

It's a pretty clever piece of writing really. Cause now you have to ask if a Chapter who places their own interests above that of the Imperium at large can truly be considered loyal.

And then you have the Deathwing. White Termie armor just looks awesome. Not a fan of the newest models though.

My second favorite would probably be Chem-Dogs of Savlar. Mix of nostalgia for Armageddon and enjoying the idea a bunch of backstabbing psychos being unleashed on the galaxy.

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>>50193665
>Maybe adeptus arbites
>>50193675
Yeah they have a similar design.

>>50193665
The Skitles do.

>>50193675
Ah yes! Completely forgot that. I've always used Ranger heads on my Vanguards since hoods are the shit.

>>50193579

I love preheresy thousand sons because an army of psykers is sweet, and they've been though so much shit. Their primarch tried to do the right thing, got shit on, they paid the price, then Ahriman turns them into dust.

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>>50193548

IG players/collectors, which regiments do you own? Vote now for the Emperor

http://www.strawpoll.me/11624322

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>>50193613
>Orks are let down by a lack of good writing from their perspective.

You take that fucking back right now

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Reposting

Made this list to face genestealer cult tomorrow, it's deathwatch plus some muhreens to provide support and teleport beacons. Could you guys give me feedback in this since it's my first time with deathwatch?
For now an anon has told me to change ccws into shotguns and remove xenoblade

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>>50193532

>Imperial Guard wishlist?

Multi-laser heavy weapon teams.

>>50193773
Deff Skwadron is a fucking national treasure. For every nation.

Can someone give me the rules for apocolyptic barrage please, or tell me which book its in so i can find it myself.

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>>50193803

It's in the main rulebook. Under Barrage.

>>50193803
Rules are here >>50193817 but I'm going to tell you something else: Apo Barrages are all horribly bad weapons. They are so massively inaccurate that its not even funny. Even with stats like s9-10, good AP and loads of shots, they achieve usually worse results then same weapon without ApoBarrage rule.

>>50193901
>>50193817

Thanks guys, didn't realize it was in the main book.
>Apo Barrages are all horribly bad weapons
That's a shame if true, I haven't had a chance to use it yet (I buying a warlord and I've chosen the sunfury plasma annihilator, belicosa volcano cannon and 2x the triple laser blasters) and the current alternatives to the plasma don't seem that enticing, either the power claw with twin linked vulcan blaster which admittedly looks cool as fuck, but the sunfury seems so much nicer both in looks and stats

>>50193921
>Buying a Warlord.
What is it like to have such financial security???

>>50193921
Did you bet your paycheck on Trump or something. I wish I had, them 150-1 odds.

>>50193921
The volcano cannons are boring but they're effective. I'm still waiting for the quake cannon or the macro blaster. That six barreled fuck you cannon on one end and a stupid huge bore barrel on the other is very iconic to me.

I actually got the missile racks. They're not nearly as effective but I read the fluff about Legio Metallica using long ranged weapons to flatten the earth denying the orks cover and to soften all the titan class threats before they had to knife fight with gargants at Armageddon. That and I was never a fan of the baby kicking load outs on super heavies. You're already shitting all over your opponent. Every time I see the 8 D turbo laser Reaver it's kind of eye roll worthy for me. You don't really need to be a power gamer when you already have firepower of that scale lol

>>50193794

Yes.
Multi-las>Autocannon>Heavy bolter

Does anyone have that image about how to convert shotguns out of lasguns? I was also going to convert 10 guardsmen with bolters.

I've decided to expand my army with a team of shotgun melta vets and a new leman russ, either an eradicator for maximum anti-infantry or exterminator with lascannon and multi meltas.
Thats a good idea, right?

>>50193794
bring volkite back, 40k leman russ incinerators.

>>50194368
just google it, loads of guides there

>>50193579
I like the Harlequin when they don't do stupid shit like listen to a craftworld Farseer to break into the Emperor's Palace or listen to that same Farseer and try to doom your entire race.

Too bad it's gonna take a long time to see new Harlie release : High Avatar, Mime, named character..

Could any SM Players tell me if a Jump Pack can be fitted onto a Normal Tactical Marine model?

Say, what do you guys think of Biblical influence used in 40k? I don't mean whether you believe in it or not, but for making fluff is it cool or Clichè?

My idea that prompted this is some Daemons/CSM of Nurgle themed around 'Abaddon's Locusts'. It seems like a neat way to build up lore and get a neat theme going. Anyone else use the Bible, or any literature, to build their army?

>>50194397
Uh, anon, I don't think assault marine models are that much different from regular ones. Not like they have wildly different molds.

>>50194397
they can, GW even sold the jump pack separatedly. Tho tactical marine lack the "ready to take-off" legs of normal assault marine.

>>50194417
Sorry my first and only model so far is a fine cast jump chaplain and his back was specifically molded for a Jump Pack

>>50194420
Alright great thanks.

>>50194431
Sorry I just assumed you've been into 40K for years or something. You can use the jump packs on regular tacticals but their comparatively static leg positions might make them look strange unless you pose them well.

>>50194431
And Assautl marine torsos have straps and buckles on the front to make the pack look detachable.

>>50194467
>straps and buckles
But the jump pack is where the power pack is, so I assume it incorporates a power pack as well.
If they removed the jump pack it would lead to the armour losing power?

>>50194447
Its all good, I am still trying to decide between Dark and Blood Angels and just got my solo chaplain to see if I like painting, though I like the corzius from the Betrayal at Calth box.

>>50194467
Thanks for the heads up

>>50194598
ask the writers

>Can't decide if I should spend 50 or 90 on the recaster's sale

Anyone else going through CCON for his season deals? It ends tomorrow and I just want too much.

>>50194598

What does it matter? Do you plan on using marines without backpacks?

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>>50194599
>though I like the corzius from the Betrayal at Calth box.

You are right, f a m.

You could get B@C and an extra unit of the tacticals from the box + another box of assault marines and have a Demi Company without transports or auxilleries. (Though you could trade away the Dread and Termis from B@C for stuff)

>>50194622
>Recasters
Unless you're posting contact information or showing off new works you have completed kindly fuck off.

>>50194650
>White Armor
>Yellow Head
>Chaplain
>Shitty Camera

You know they are supposed to be Black armoured, right?

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>>50194667

>Shitty Camera
This has always been true and I just haven't cared enough to go out and get a decent one.


>You know they are supposed to be Black armoured, right?
>"You have to paint your models like everyone else"
>Space Marines should literally highlight their leadership with special colors of armor and shit

Skull Face is enough, don't talk to me or my three sons ever again.

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>>50194368

>8th in June
Looks like it's AoS and HH only for me then, i can't force myself to buy anything more with this bloat ruleset

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>>50194368
>>50194744
Might be able to get some GW shotguns off of ebay now that there are plastic scouts, the landspeeder transport variant, new plastic bikers and deathwatch have shotguns too now.

3rd party stuff is an option as well of course.

If you already got the bits just ignore me.

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>>50194756
>AoS

>>50194726
I hate the "paint according to GWs colour schemes or GTFO" mentality.
I don't care about scheme or skill, just not unpainted grey plastic army.

>>50194402
Dude. Literally everything in 40k comes from somewhere.
The whole HH is Dante's Inferno and the War in heaven. Ahriman was a babylonian demon I think. Lionel Johnson was a poet. Raven Guard are a not to Edgar Allen Poe. Lysander was a greek general.

I mean you can trace literally everything back to something else.
Rogue Trader started out as sci-fi rule set for GWs existing D&D miniature range, which is why a lot of the critters in 40k should seem familiar too.

So yeah it's totally in the spirit of 40k to fluff something after your favorite other thing and transplant that into 40k.

Has anyone figured out a fix for Battlescribe on Android not allowing you to select force type? App doesn't work while it's broken. Kind of hard to let the new guy write up a list when the program doesn't work and the shop doesn't let him borrow the codex of choice. (I wrote up my own lists, so I'm not super concerned, but it's not as easy for people who hate pirating.)

>>50194812
Eldar are the elves in Lord of the Rings too

>>50194864
>people who hate pirating
Battlescribe is more or less the same thing, they don't provide the codex files so they aren't liable for the stealing of the entries. So either he gets over his dislike of piracy or he forks out money for the codex.

>>50194598
Power armour has a reserve power supply, good enough to last until you get picked up by a rhino or something.

>>50193642
Chaos Space Marines and Orks "are" allies of convenience. I'm not as sure how to fit Eldar in but there are some options.

Since you mentioned the Daemon Engine, it sounds like you would be cool using Forgeworld in general. One thing I think you could do that would be reasonably scary would be:

-Run an Ork CAD as your primary, and use Zhadsnark as your Warlord. Take a bunch of Warbiker Troops, and sprinkle in Tankbusta support. Maybe some Looted Wagons.

-Add a Gorepack from Khorne Daemonkin. Give all the Bike units Meltas/Combi-Meltas, run as many Flesh Hounds as you can to support your Ork/Chaos Bikers.

-Optionally if your group is using DFTS rules, a Flyerwing of two Daemonkin Heldrakes with Hades Autocannons (NOT Baleflamers). You get Strafing Run and can still vector-strike flyers, and the lead flyer gets another +1 BS so you're hitting one ground target on 2+, another on 3+. Each Battle Company Rhino you pop is another Blood Tithe point.

>>50194864
No solution yet use this in the meanwhile

http://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Busy season coming up for work
>Planning my next game two weeks in advance
>Opponent still can't decide on a list
>All I know is its 1500+ points, no more than 1 flier and no LoWs unless we get up to 3000pts.

Anyone have any better luck than me?
Games coming up soon?

>>50195226
Thanks. Little clunky, but it should work.
>>50194900
I don't understand the guy's mentality. He's okay with playing with/against recasts, but he refuses to pirate the books. I just buy everything full price because we're the only 40k players left at my LGS and I have to make up for him somehow. My income is enough it doesn't hurt that bad to pay an extra $5-10 a box.

>>50193773
this is what I'm getting my brother for christmas, is it good?

>>50195279
Two Kill-Team games (and possibly a third Hunt the MC game with me fielding the MC) tomorrow, and a possible 750pt game during the week with my new models. Feels good.

What army are you taking for that game?

>>50195325
>What army are you taking for that game?
Faction wise, Salamanders. I am not sure what though because we haven't decided on points and I have a decent sized collection.

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>>50195279
well today is friday and no school on campus (i wouldn't be going anyway, independent studies) so i'll try to get in a game at the nearby GW

>>50195338
Good taste. Burn everything, battle-brother.

>>50193675
Man I love that model so much.

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>>50195371
>A combined force of Salamanders and Sisters

>>50195399
>no bangles for heavy flamer tacticals

>>50195279
My game for this weekend was cancelled. On one hand that sucks as I was looking forward to it. On the other, it means I don't have to pack the car with the table, terrain and my army.

>>50195371
Thanks, I find them to be my favorite chapter and they work well as a take all comers army.

>>50194368

Just get some genestealer cult shotguns

I want to get into this hobby, but I'm torn between khorne daemonkin, and genestealer cults.

Which is more fun, to play against and as?
Which of more viable?
Which is more likely to survive the coming 8th edition?

>For 40 pts you can get two haemotrope reactors that turn plasma calivers into blast weapons that get hot on 1 or 2
>Run in war convocation, free guns that never get hot, each vanguard squad is shitting out 9 plasma blast markers
Jesus fucking christ my bionic dick stands erect to praise the Omnissiah

>>50195573
GSC, just don't spam summons.

>>50195591
wouldn't you want the ad-mech servitors for large blasts?

>>50193579
Necrons

>>50193579
Sisters of Battle, matey.

>>50195591
it only affects plasma weapons that are in the BRB so that excludes a lot of admech weapons

>>50195601
Both.

Both is good.

>>50195591
Yeah, if only I could use one along with the VSG I already use...

>>50195601
Now I have a legit reason to use them, yeeey!

>>50195627
According to the Plasma Syphon FAQ, it affects those and any weapon with plasma in the name/description, so it def. includes the admech guns.

>>50195637
Small blasts are just pathetic, trust me.

>>50195592
Are summons as spammable with gsc as they are in chaos?

Because you have to roll lucky to get the summon power right?

Any good battle reports involving Titans? I wanna see some absurdly oversized mech action.

>>50195627
Obvious case of RAI over RAW dude, it's literally an Ad Mech fortification and the codexes didn't even exist when the BRB was written so of course their guns wouldn't be in there. Anyone who tries to rule they don't work is a rules lawyering asshole and you shouldn't be playing with them in the first place.

>>50193579
AdMech imo

>>50195691
well wtf

the same isn't true for the flamer pipes

>>50195696
Compared to individual shots? I'll fucking take it. It's not like I wouldn't be running plasma cal vanguard anyways in a War Convo.

>>50195700
No way near as spammable but you get to summon more points, and unlike daemons the summons have actual ranged weapons they can shoots.
You can summon troops with psudo-lascannons right behind vehicles.

>>50195700
Sure you need to roll for the Telepathic Summons power, but if you do get it, it's REALLY OP.

Gives you free units, kitted however you like, all for free.

>>50195736
Because not all weapons with template are actually flamer weapons. Ones that are say so in their Codex entry, like the Ork ones.

Weapons that say "plasma" are very clearly plasma weapons.

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>>50195702
look for 3000+. it's interesting if you like seeing whole units, groups of infantry and tanks being simply removed. the god of the battlefield has changed

>>50193588
Are their helmets panties?

>>50195743
The BS boost is better on individual shots unless you're going for the full 7.
Also, remember that the 'gets hot' roll is not allowed to be rerolled by bs6 which it can on single shots.

>>50195775
There is no gets hot roll in War Convo.

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>>50195765

>>50195787
The better question is why do you keep spamming that image.

>>50195781
If someone tried to use warconvo with those reactors i would say no to that rules interpretation.

And I play War Convocation. And its sad that it doesnt work on all the plasma weapons.

>>50195801
Hm? Saved it yesterday.

>>50195775
The BS boost is inconsequential. With ***9*** fucking blast shots you're going to be hitting a fuckton of dudes if they clump up. And you can always choose not to use the blast option if for some reason it's not as good.

>>50195816
Well you're a faggot because it's clearly an Ad Mech fortification designed for Ad Mech armies and the FAQ literally shuts you down.

You can say no to playing War Convo altogether but you can't cherry pick what rules they're allowed to use that are literally intended for their army.

>>50195844
Which makes it all the more absurd for it's low points cost.

>>50195857
Also you can take some free barricades to hide behind I think, same as the pipes, so you don't risk the explosion.

>>50195844
>bending rules to bring back one of the most cancerous waac armies
>probably so he can shit on the ork players at the club even harder

>>50195878
>>bending rules
>literally just wants to be able to use the fortification for its own army instead of only space marines getting to benefit from the fucking ad mech model
>implying anyone needs plasma to stomp Orks
You are retarded.

>>50195844
I mean, I wouldnt allow it to anyone. The FAQ is bad example to use here since rules there talk about plasma weapons and FAQ states what those are.

Haemathrope instead talks about Plasma Weapon in the rulebook which is very spesific list of weapons. The FAQ could have gone with that route too but instead chose the more inclusive interpretation.

So no. No Haemo-bonuses for anything other than those 3 weapons in the rulebook. And like I said, thats sad.

Also no Cerastus/Mechanicum Knights for Warconvo. Thats very sad, too.

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If Tyranids attack a planet that has been fully engulfed by WAAAGHing Orks and their Warboss, which side wins?

I guess Orks just find the whole thing heaven

>>50195912
Could go either way, frankly. Tyranids have the advantage because they can eat the spores and orks are plentiful, cheap biomass though.

>>50195912
Orks would be fucking overjoyed out of the green asses. No idea who would win but giantic skrap would ensue. And if the fight is big enough then it would pull even more orks into the fight, just like what happened at Armageddon.

>>50195912
if the octavius war is anything to go on the nids would eventually win by attrition

>>50195911
>admits that he understands the RAI is for them to work with all plasma weapons
>is retarded enough to go with RAW anyways
Why are rules autists so fucking dumb, /tg/?

>>50195912
Typically Tyranids but it will take them a very long time compared to fighting any of the other races.

Keep in mind Tyranids have by far the highest W/L ratio of any Faction in the setting.

>>50195912
Orks would indeed find it to be heaven. They're likely to lose eventually though. Unless it turns into an Octarius situation with Orks coming in from all over the galaxy.

>>50195950
you seem really upset

GW whites shitty confusing complicated rules. That is why the game is literally only 10% of the hobby.

>>50195968
>GW whites shitty confusing complicated rules.

Tumblr pls go.

>>50193579
Newcrons

I like how this guys are so OP in lore compared to anything else
>killed the race so technically/biologicaly advanced it created most of the races
>created,weaponised amd enslaved the literal star eaters
>they don't use psychic power because their very technology is so good it bends the rules of nature

They are almost exactly what I want in grimdark

The great silent army of metal alien robots, while half of their leaders have gone completly insane and other half was always insane

I also like DaoT humanity for also having OP psychotechnical technology

>>50195968
The rules are really not that confusing if you use common sense. It's people like you that cause the issues by refusing to accept when it's very clear how something was intended to work even if the wording was sloppy. Instead of being an asshole, consider: you could just stop abusing the nuances of the english language and play the game the way it's intended.

>>50195929
Eating the spores. Didnt even think of that.
I just figured more and more Orks would spawn all over in an expanding rate, as more and more Orks die.
And then there would be nothing else but an ocean of nids against a sea of greenskins

>>50195980
>the AoS rules are 4 pages long but GW couldn't even write those properly
>how many weapons can an AoS model attack with in a given turn? the rules do not say. The community has interpreted this to mean "one attack with every weapon available" which is fine, but come on GW...

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>>50195912
But what about Nids vs Necrons.
They cant consume the living metal, hopefully. Imagine the aberrations and horrors Nids could make out of it

>>50196033
That's all well and good to complain about, but what does GW being white have to do with it?

>>50196029
Yeah Tyrannoformation basically BTFOs Orks at the microscopic level, they don't stand a chance in a long-term war unless more Orks from outside the biosphere are pouring in to assist (and the Shadow in the Warp will also make it difficult for them to contact those reinforcements in a timely manner).

>>50195950
I'm autistic because I am literally autistic, I have asperger. So is that good enough for me to play by the rules and not bend them to my own ends?

>>50195980
The typoed. Writes, not whites.

>>50196004
Some of use like to play by the rules. Even more when the rules are clear. In the case of Haemo-reactors, they are clear what weapons they meant. Plasma Syphons needed the FAQ and they got it.

>>50196066
>The typoed. Writes, not whites.

Oh I know, just having a laugh.

>>50196060
They can't consume it directly but they can just break it down into base elements like anything else after the fact, given enough time.

Necrons are probably the one race that really has all the advantages over nids though and stands the best chance of kicking their asses.

>>50196066
>I'm autistic because I am literally autistic, I have asperger. So is that good enough for me to play by the rules and not bend them to my own ends?
No that basically means you should shut the fuck up in any rules arguments and consent to being wrong by default because you won't be reasonable.

>>50196060
Necrons usually teleport out when dying.
And Nids avoid Necron infested worlds for that reason
They are the only army that can win a war of attrition with Tyranids

>>50196062
I dont think that the Shadow would be that effective though. WAAAGH bends the reality itself, and I guess at least some of the Orks in the system would get their green mugs in a grin as they sense a gigantic scrap.
And as they do, dont they just "spread the signal"?

But I guess in the end, the endless tide of nids would most likely win

>>50196096
Servoskulls wont prevent Cult Ambush :^)

Dont be a hater, faggot

>>50196100
>They are the only army that can win a war of attrition with Tyranids
Cult Mech codex has example where mechanicus won war of attrition against nids. When nids had nommed the servitors, they sent out swarms to servo skulls to pick up the non-eaten mechanical parts, installed them to new biological speciments and then sent out the next wave.

>>50196118
'Ere we go, boyz....

Cult Ambush is modified Infiltrate, and Skulls prevent Infiltration. Therefore they prevent it.

hi guys, until recently i used battlescribe, but it doesnt really work anymore
is there an alternative app, that does more or less the same ?
I am not that good at writing lists by myself...

>>50196202
I like to read the codex and use a text editor

>>50196212
sure, that would work, but i did that when i bagan this hobby and it took quite some time

>>50196162
Cult ambushing isn't 'modified infiltrate', it's cult ambush.

>>50196118
>>50196162
Reminds me of that loophole that allows terminator bikers.

>>50196244
crunch:
>requires infiltrate
>works off of ambush rules
>modifies ambush to make rules

fluff:
>skulls are sent out to survey and scout for enemies
>GSC hide in rubble, literally the exact sort of thing a Servo-Skull would look for

I don't know anybody that plays them so I don't care, but it certainly seems like they should be stopped by skulls. But lore butting heads with rules is nothing new.

>>50196287
>requires infiltrate

Does not.

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>>50193579
Sisters. What isn't more cool than an order of religiously devout nuns who want to kill witches, mutants, and heretics.

>>50196220
I guess it depends on the codex, but I don't usually have an issue

then again, my codex doesn't have many options or units worth using, few formations or detachments (none in the main book), and having everything in front of you can really help to plan your list.

Another technique I've been told is to put all your models on a table in front of you while you are list building so you can visualize your list and see your constraints more clearly.

Can you use Be'lakor instead of normal Deamon Prince in Traitor's Hate formations?

>>50196477
>A FUCKING ROCK

>>50196477
Be’lakor is an Army List Entry that can be selected as an HQ choice in a detachment chosen
from either Codex: Chaos Daemons or Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

so yes

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>>50196508

>>50196508
a fucking rock with invisbility
>>50196520
As a HQ choice, but I want to take him as the leader of the Black Crusade Detachment, because it allows you to take deamon prince there

>>50196534
Ah
so no

Is there a standard load out for landspeeders?

Never used one before so I'm not sure if they should be kept cheap or if flamers are a waste because it forces a fragile vehicle close

>>50196598
Single multi-melta I believe.

>end times comes in 8th edition
>the living primarchs all wake up, out of stasis, whatever.
>emps is still catatonic on his throne
>which takes over?

>>50196598
Speeders are a bit bad. Flamer and H.bolter are total no-no. MM is good for tank hunting but being within 12" is deadly for speeders. With Typhoon you can hang back and snipe a bit.

That said only speeders that are good are Storms and ones in Ravenwing Support Squadron. In RW-SS you should give everyone assault cannon and heavybolter to complement it. And use Darkshroud.

>>50196659
Primarchs, obviously. They replace the High Lords as highest living authority.

>>50196659
Guilliman is the only one without some sort of baggage that he left in his legion that could see them collapse or turn. I'm not too up to date in what happened regarding Imperium Secondus though so maybe he wouldn't want to lead after that, and perhaps seeing what the administratum has become. Khan seems to be the next most stable Primarch, but most of the surviving loyalists didn't really seem to trust him that much.

>>50196598
Twin-HBs is cheap, but that's about it. 1-2 multi-meltas is good for hunting. MM and heavy flamer an all-arounder anti-tank/anti-horde thing. Typhoon for survivability, since it lets you keep your distance.

>>50196691
There is a chance, altough really small one, that Rogal Dorne lives with one hand, playing overly honest grandfather to a bunch of Orphans on some planet somewhere.

If its not Guilliman, its Dorne and if not them, it just might be Khan

>>50196598
Double multi melta or typhoon with heavy bolter.

>>50196732
Dorn is too busy leading the Custodes fighting Daemons under the palace.

>>50196748
Well, even Vulkan makes for a better choice than Khan imho.
Vulkan might actually be tied at number.1 position with Guilliman

>>50196676

storm is the one that transports scouts? how is that good?

>>50196748
>>50196771
So what I'm hearing is that everyone agrees it's the Lion. The Lion takes over.

>>50196748
>>50196771
>>50196837

It's going to be a loyalist Alpharius or Omegon.

>>50196870
They're dead, Jim. One got Dorn'd, and the other got Rowboat'd.

Hey lads, I'm thinking of getting together a Skitarii army. Can you give me any advice for starting out?

>>50196889
>One got Dorn'd

wat

>>50196837
I dont know about the Lion, but at least Dorn and Guilliman led empires on their own right before Emperor found them, and Vulkan has been tutored for years by the emperor himself, before joining his legion. And Vulkan is all about helping the little people, and the empire could really use some of that

>>50196908
Dorn killed him. Alpharius tried explaining why he sided with Horus, Dorn wasn't having it and chopped Alpharius's head off. The result? Warp-splosion, and Omegon feels utterly alone for the first time.

>>50193532
Lasgun option for Sergeants.
Mortars, heavy bolters and rockets that aren't objectively inferior to lascannons and autoguns.
Heavy stubber and multilaser teams.
Ability to split up squads into fireteams with ~10 inch unit coherency between fireteams while still functioning as a single unit in terms of morale checks and leadership tests.
Earhshaker guns that work as basilisks but cheaper, can't move and are always open topped.
A poorly armored, unarmed but super fast transport vehicle to give infantry mobility. Think taurox with no weapons and even faster. Perhaps an Arvus lighter (I know about FW).
Make grenade launchers worthwhile.
Allow demo vets to use more than one meltabomb per turn. Make rough riders worthwhile.
Let special weapon squads take hunting lances (WITNESS ME).

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>>50196969
>Alpharius tried explaining why he sided with Horus, Dorn wasn't having it and chopped Alpharius's head off.

Is this some FW fanfiction or something?

>>50196802
It scouts. And if it is bought as dedicated transport for scouts, it also infiltrates. Starting your game within 12" of your opponent is nifty thing.

It also has annoying blind-blast which can hamper enemy units hard every now and then.

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What does the symbol on his shoulder signify?
Planetary defence force?

>>50197021
It's the symbol for the Cadian Gate.

>>50197021
Cadia Gate.

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>>50197003
>FW fanfiction
>mfw
Hah! It's BL! Praetorian of Dorn! Wait no I'll show you the cover. Notice how Dorn's hair becomes standing up when he is angry.

>>50197042

Haha that shit is straight up anime

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>>50196973

>mfw all my sarges are still modeled with either lasguns, stormbolters or shotguns as a holdover from the 3rd IG codex

>>50197042
>Praetorian of Dorn

How well/shittily written is it? Is it worth reading bearing in mind that I liked the first HH books?

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Where are the rules for Imperial Titans?

>>50197100
>3e codex gave you combi-weapons
>vets could have bolters as special weapons and trade their lasguns for laspistols and CCWs

>>50196889
>He actually thinks the ones who thought they were Alpharius and Omegon actually were Alpharius and Omegon.

>>50197168
Were Bolters worth considering in 3rd edition?

So I was hoping someone could clear this up for me. The other day someone posted that the Black Crusade Detachment couldn't be run in a Battleforged army because Lords of the Black Crusade is not a formation. Was he right?

>>50196255
>loophole that allows terminator bikers.
Explain

>>50197230
Cataphractii armour isn't considered Terminator Armour in a literal sense for wargear selection. It's a loose loophole for a lot of people, but it doesn't stop some.

>>50197230
They (presumably) failed to list cataphractii terminator armour as counting as terminator armour so there isn't a restriction on taking a cataphractii captain on a bike.

>>50196659
Mork.
possibly gork

>>50196521
How in the world did some iguana named Tic-Tac-Toe kill a Daemon Prince with rocks?!

>>50196837
This is the only acceptable answer - he's the only one who still commands an entire Legion.

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Ladies, how do we put 2hu in the warhammer so that we can 2hu while we warhammer?

>>50197349
touhous are the sensei, the Emperor's children! or temporally displaced pre-fall Eldar with magic beyond anything now. Or they're the Old Ones.

>>50193579

>Not even one person said Dark Eldar

Yeah, yeah, 2edgy4u. Still, when I consider their lore and how it's evolved over time, they are my favorite and I don't even play them (I hope to start soon).

>The ruthless Darwinian selection hinted at in 3E/5E is still around; we Klingon Promotions: The City-Dimension-State
>Evil without any redeeming qualities unlike pretty much every other evil threat. Comic book tier villains. It's great, especially since they generally avoid the CSM problem of being Stupid Evil and instead are genuinely well-written as scheming evil.
>Single-handedly ruined the galaxy, do not care, continue to ruin the galaxy
>Racial supremacists kek (except actually are superior... mostly)
>Books and general fluff for Commorragh have a super gritty urban fantasy feel even though it's sci-fi
>Weaknesses follow naturally from origin story and strengths

tl;dr feels good to be bad, man

>>50197319
Because the game has a high degree of randomness.

>>50197319
Such is the fate of chaos.

>>50197194
No, but they were an option. And someone who wanted a fluffy force could have probably taken them. Now they're useless.

>>50197157

30k mechanicum red book has the most recent rules for titans.

>>50197349
>>50197365
First for Ayaya is Corax's daughter born in the webway from an eldar wych.

(Still doesn't explain her cheerful demeanor contrasting with Corax's endless brooding.)

>>50197003

>FW fanfiction
>implying that all bad fluff doesn't stem from BL

Poisoned gets re rolls only when a models strength is specifically higher than the enemy models toughness right? not equal to or greater than? If a kind anon would put my mind to rest. I want to know whether its worth it putting toxin sacs on my hormagaunts.

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>>50197319
Because rock beat flying types, and these are Lizardmen we're talking about here. The things they can do with rocks is out of this world.

>>50196837

It's Guilliman.

He's coming back in a Dreadnought

>>50197546
>He's coming back in a Dreadnought
Why? It's not like he is missing half his body.

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>All these people still trying to summon Carnac

Stop.

>>50197559

Not fully recovered and too weak.

>>50197582
Maybe if he gets too many summoning notifications he'll overload? Daemons probably overload if cultists across the galaxy try summoning it all across the galaxy.

>>50197374

Yea, I love Deldar fluff.

Don't forget all the super tech from before the fall because they never lost it. Iirc, they stole a fucking star and use it to power the city.

Everyone else is running around with old shit they're trying to make work except the Crons. The Tau don't count because they're still making shit.

>>50197583
A dreadnought chassis would inhibit far more than sitting the conflict out. He'd likely sit around coordinating rather than meekly punching daemons.

>>50197607
They stole more than one star, and then thought they were too inconveniently large so they used aforementioned super tech to shrink them down to a more manageable size

>>50197599
I'm honestly curious now. What happens if cults across the galaxy try summoning the exact same daemon at the exact same time? The daemon can't answer all the calls at once so does it explode?

Why doesn't Lucius the Eternal have Eternal Warrior?

>>50197607
The Tau don't count because they ARE shit.

Sup /40kg/, last thread I asked for some advice on how to run GK. Based on that I came up with this list. How does it look? Am I missing anything super important?

Nemesis Strike Force, 999 points
>Librarian (135)
Psyker ML3
>Terminator Squad (201)
2x Halberd, 1x Daemon Hammer, 1x Psycannon, Justicar with Halberd
>Interceptor Squad (153)
4x Halberd, 1x Incinerator, Justicar has Teleport Homer
>Interceptor Squad (145)
4x Sword, 1x Incinerator, Justicar has Teleport Homer
>Interceptor Squad (145)
4x Sword, 1x Incinerator, Justicar has Teleport Homer
>Nemesis Dreadknight (220)
Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Personal Teleporter, Nemesis Daemon Hammer and Powerfist

The only issue I see is trying to deal with armor, but the plan there is basically "charge lol"

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>>50197697

>2 CSM characters are immortals who come back to life after they die
>neither have eternal warrior

GW writers ladies and gentlemen

>>50197697
Same reason why Assault Cannons aren't Assault, Heavy Flamers aren't Heavy, Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon isn't Rapid Fire, etc.

Where's the combined codex for Mechanicus in the rumor mill?

guys i can't find the ig codex in the current version of battlescribe
anyone else have this problem ?

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So, just had a man to man game, painting and introduction to game session with a new guy.

I played my 'Nids against his IG.
And he has a well thought out army, when it comes to land battles. revolving around artillery and vet squads in chimeras.
Surprisingly, new guy has a good grasp for his army as far as beginners go. It was surprising to see so many of my nids blow up at the first few turns.
But I couldnt stress "Remember the orders phase" more.

He ended up winning two games out of three, in one I brought in some flynids that fucked him over, reminding him that there is air battling to the game as well.

I think he is going to have little (if any) troubles with our resident Ork players, he is exactly the kind of guy they like to play against.
But for our SM guy who hates seeing any of his units die, and will check rulebooks feverishly for any slight chance to bring any of his units back... Well, its going to be interesting.

Otherwise, this was the first time we properly met, seems like a chill guy, who is willing to be very flexible, and plays for fun instead of WAAC.
I like him.
He will make the emperor proud

>>50197759

m8 it's called "Astra Militarum" now...

>>50197759
The file source seems to have lost it. No idea why.

>>50197682

Oh yes, you're right.

I think on of my favorite stories is how Malys stole a fully intact STC. It wasn't for a tank or a weapon, no. It was for the cure to every fucking disease.

>>50195226
>no Renegades and Heretics

For shame

>>50195226
WHERE'S MY SISTERS

REEEEEEEEEE

>>50197723
Pretty smart fast assault capabilities, though if you're playing GK why not stick with Terminators?

Here's what I like to roll with;

>Librarian (ML3, Bone Shard of Solor)
>Terminator Squad (Halberds, Melta Bombs)
>Terminator Squad (Halberds, Melta Bombs)
>Interceptor Squad (Halberds, Melta Bombs)
>Interceptor Squad (Halberds, Melta Bombs)
>Nemesis Dreadknight (Personal Teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Greatsword)

The Melta Bombs can be switched for Flamers at will, I only play Knights at smaller games and some asshole always spams high AV. But if you aren't expecting lots of armor, then go all out with it. Or grab a hammer, but no one does TEQs where I'm at, so I don't really know if they're worth it.

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>>50197546
what dreadnought could be worthy of a Primarch?

would have to be Warlord Titan sized at least

How does would an IG regiment that loves mechanized assaults and guerrilla warfare work?

>>50197767
Is your SM guy a White Scar? Because if so I think I saw your new guy on here asking for help. I did my best to explain things, nice to know it went well.

>>50197935
Armageddon Regiment.

It has Steel Legion and Veteran Ork Hunters.

>>50197935
They paint themselves with oil and oxidation and specialize in junkyard warfare.

>>50197963
>>50197971
Those might be able to work together.

>>50197909

Yeah I considered melta bombs but couldn't figure out a way to get the points for them without dropping something important. But, looking at your list I can see there are ways to make room. I just don't want to lose the flamers in most cases, but maybe switching one out for melta bombs would help with armor. Thanks.

I was originally thinking of going with 2 squads of Termies but I was worried about getting them into position effectively, especially if the other guy goes first and manages to blow the Interceptors off the field. I guess they can always just DS normally though. Has that been a problem for you?

I am used to Dark Eldar where you can pretty much count on half of your shit dying if the opponent actually manages to shoot it so I usually run redundant stuff that's not strictly necessary. But I guess target saturation doesn't work so well when you only have a few squads lel

>>50197800
I'm quite partial to the story of the haemonculi setting up 'cultural exchange' with the Tau, and then turning all the ambassadors into grotesques

>>50197935
Chimeras, Scout Sentinels and Hellhounds.

>>50197959
Well well well.. Small world it seems.
If you're the guy who designed his army, then yes, he mentioned you.

Well yesterday was actually our planned meetup, and it ended up in a disaster. It became an argument between ork players and SM guy.

They didnt even though they didnt even bring their armies with them, and I was supposed to play with the new guy. Ork guys blamed SM guy for making an "overpowered" lineup for a new guy, and SM guy had a spergout about how formations are only way to play.
>we've been quite much looks over function so far

So we decided to meet today together, just the two of us.
He still knows about formations, but doesnt really understand, so we went over that for a while.
He kinda got dragged into infighting in our group I thought was mostly over, but his army sparked it again.

>>50198058
Yeah, that was me. I hope everything blows over quickly with you guys, always great to hear a new player getting into things. I sympathise, our LGS resident smurfs player acts the same a lot of the time, except he is just a dick period, so I brought in the WarConvo and blew him and his skyhammer/gladius up today. Feels good.

I look forward to more tales from NewGuardGuy and his group, been a nice story so far. Enjoy yourselves and the many explosions he will probably bring you.

>>50196837
I hope Lion and Russ will finally forgive eachother and make Imperium great again together

>>50197319
MAGICAL FUCKING ROCKS BLESSED BY THE FINEST OF SLANN
also there is a skink that used to live in Warp and hide so well no deamon could find him.
Lizardmen are just that OP

>>50197691
One cult gets sucked into the Warp, or summons wrong deamon.

It's chaos, it can't end well

>>50197745
>>2 CSM characters are immortals who come back to life after they die
Lucius and?

>>50198213
Kharn, he's come back more than once.

>>50197777
i know
>>50197784
yeah , had to redownload the data file
strangely enough it only affected my codex

>>50196771
vulkan is the absolute number 1 for a fairytale happily ever after ending
girlyman is perfect for a THERE IS ONLY WAR ending

>>50198258

The exact same thing happened to me, except it was the Corsairs Codex that was deleted. I also got a similar "corrupt data" message when trying to load the CWE Codex.

Battlescribe 2.0 is shit so far

>>50198235
He gets Eternal Warrior in Traitor's Hate

>>50197931
>Tyranids on its pauldrons
>Girlyman at its feet

>>50198301
see
>>50198258
just redownload the data file and it should work anon

>>50198302
No, he doesn't.

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>tfw Ku'Gath Plaguefather goes down turn 2 to a squad of Grey Knights because of Force

What are your best /feelsgood/ moments?

>>50198020

There's also that CSM war master who's currently a trophy with no limbs because he fucked up a raid.

>>50196899
The start collecting box is always good, and you get a nice little formation to use with it.

>>50198364
Probably charging an Onager at a riptide that nova charge'd itself to death.

The Onager killed it on the tau players turn and it charged the crisis suit commander on my turn before the game ended.

>>50198134
If he comes here too, I'd rather leave his battlereport(s) for him to do then. I'm sure he is enthusiastic to give one.

And well, because I like the looks over function a bit too much, I did play a couple of hundred points more than he did with land units, he didnt have any problems. Blowing my 'Nids up.

Our SM guy is an absolute ass when it comes to the game, he has absolutely no mercy. I think when it comes to it, I'll stand by the new guy as an assistant, and help with rules, and make goddamn sure SM guy doesnt try to pull some bullshit to win.

I actually think that our NewGuardGuy stands the best chance to beat him, as the rest of us are in a loosing streak against him.
>and his victory streak makes him more and more of a princess
>and the rest of have rustled jimmies

>>50198388
Abaddon lost his legs?

>>50198336

Thanks anon

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>>50198444

>>50198364
>Sergeant makes 3 6+ feel no pain rolls and wins a challenge against a biker champion
>Librarian hits and wounds a ravenwing T6 biker with a single smite attack and he fails his 2+ rerollable jink save

>>50198364
>Last game of 5e Grey Knight codex
>Anvil Thawn was being removed so it was my last chance to play him
>Game vs my buddy's Tyranids
>Ended up getting near tabled as he castling up on his side with exocrines.
>Swarmlord and two Tyrant Guards just finished wiping out Thawn's unit.

>My turn
>Thawn comes back
>Gets within easy charge of Swarmlord
>Roll for Force
>Perils
>Warp Surge
>Charge Swarmlord and due to old Psykout grenades that unit is I1
>3 attacks with Instant Death, Fleshbane, and AP3. 3 enemy Tyranids.

>3 hits, 3 wounds, 3 dead Tyranids.

Thawn went out with a bang.

>>50198364
>Assault Terminators deepstrike in front of a platoon of Elysians
>Melta, plasma, lasguns and support fire from valkyries bounces of the armour and storm shields.
Wasn't really that game changing, but it felt really good to tank all those shots like Terminators should.

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Hey anons, I'm building a storm trooper army would they look better painted as GDI or NOD from C&C? Can't decide.

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>>50198302
He fucking SHOULD if that faggot Eldrad does just for joining a formation

But: Chaos, no nice things allowed, REEEE where are muh drop-pods etc.

>>50198444
I think that jokes a little stale, anon. You should have thrown in something a little fresher to liven it up, like a Chuck Testa joke or a Rick Roll.

>>50198588
FOR KANE AND THE BROTHERHOOD!!

NOD, obviously.

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>>50198588
Only one answer.

>>50198696
Weren't nod the oppressors? Maybe I'm misremembering.

>>50197374
I like them a lot, but I worry about playing them. They seem one dimensional.

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>>50198703
Don't believe GDI's propaganda.

>>50198759
What is my purpose?

>>50198611
Do you get mad at people referring to the Ultramarines as smurfs?

>>50198768
Fuck GDI's shit up.

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>>50198768
To serve Yuri anon.

>>50198703

Depends who you ask.

Why are Jokaeros xenos allowed in Inquisition's warbands? Doesn't make sense...

>>50198911

I'd assume they're kept as pets.

Pets that can craft weapons.

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>>50198911
It's a long story and involves a hat.

>>50198911

There are many types of Inquisitors, ranging from "gas the heretics xenos war now" to "lol I bet we can totally use Chaos to beat Chaos since that makes sense"

"These monkeys can fix weapons and are otherwise too retarded to pose a threat, so there's no point in killing them right now" is probably not considered too radical

>>50198911
Because they're mostly harmless and are very very useful.

Imperium isn't completely Xenocidal, just mostly.

>>50198941
>involves a hat
fucking kek

>>50198405
OnaGOAT Dankcrawler

>>50198953
One thousand or so years after Horus's temper tantrum there was an Inquisitor of Ordo Xenos who spent years trying to research the Jokero but the monkeys would always avoid him. That is until his hat became drenched in yellow paint. The Jokero became curious of his hat, and grew closer to him.

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>>50198941
for real?

What kind of Inquisitor would you be, /tg/?

Puritan or Radical? Which of their philosophies do you agree with most?

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>>50198768
You pass butter

>>50199035
You know it.

>>50195591
Aren't calivers only 18" range?

>>50199044
I would try my heart out to be a Puritan. Chaos never ends well, and using Xeno tech just causes problems within the Inquistion community.

>>50199070
What kind?

These are ones we know of:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Thorians

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Amalathian

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Monodominant

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Anomolian_Beholders

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ardentities

>>50197270
Which is funny, as it also precludes them from taking terminator weapons.

>>50197538
Has to be higher.

>>50199099
>Monodominant
Too much for me. I guess I'd be a Thorian or a Beholder. Trying to bring back Big E is a hard job, but it could lead to interesting places.

>>50199044

Monodominant master race. *ba dum tsh*

>>50199021
I don't understand.

>>50199148
Gonna have to agree.

>>50199147
True, but I feel like it carries a lot of risks.

Oh and for the more Radical out there:

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Antiquarti

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Xenos_Hybris

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Xanthism

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Seculos_Attendous

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Revivificators

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Recongregationism

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Polypsykana

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Phaenonites

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Casophilians

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horusians

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Istvaanism

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Libricars

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Oblationists

>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ocularians

Do markerlights stack? Like, can you use two and get BS5? Not a tau player.

>>50199044
I think everyone starts puritan but once you see how much red tape, and how outmatched you are - you start going radical if you actually want to get shit done

>>50199210
They do.

>>50199210
Yes

>>50199193
Sure it carries risk but everything in 40k carries risk. Want to use a toaster? Too bad! You just opened a Warp rift or some techpriests hates how you shove toast in his waifu.
>Recongregationism
That's my radical choice. It's kind of hard to change everything in the Imperium, but making life suck less for one world will get you good karma.

>>50199238
See this is how you end up causing a daemonic incursion.

>>50199289
>Sure it carries risk but everything in 40k carries risk.

There's that, then there's turning every human in the galaxy into a potential warp portal.

>>50195967

It's almost certain to turn into an Octarius situation however. The bigger the fight, the more Orks are drawn to it, and the Shadow in the Warp doesn't seem to be blocking it in the case of Octarius.

>>50198911
they aren't sentient

>>50199302
Forgot about that. Well, a Thorian wants a way to bring Easy E back, but it never said that He has to have His flesh back and just be a walking talking divine skeleton god.

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>>50199336
Oh.

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Is a Deathstrike on a 4'x4' board too much?

>>50198400
Thanks for the advice, Anon.

>>50199362
Deathstrikes are bad, so do what you like.

>>50199352
Sort of like that. Just needs more gold, and two headed eagles and or SoB groupies. I mean if it works I don't think the Imperium would mind. Their God is alive and well, and what are they going to do about it? He's a spooky scary skeleton now, and he can very much pile drive their fleshy hides now.

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I'm thinking of picking up one of these guys and im trying to decide which arms to get

Is the storm cannon worth the points?
If not would people get bugged if i just modeled it with one arm and the cannon because i feel those look the best and just have it counts as two siege claws?

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>>50198660
>>50198696
>>50198759
>>50198817

I'm conflicted on how to paint up the Tauroxes, they more closely resemble GDI's style. But I was thinking Red Berets/Glowing bits. Jet black everything else. Like this one guy but without the obnoxious Yellow.

http://imgur.com/a/KCOzJ

>>50199499
The answer is to magnetize the arms. You should always magnetize the weapons on stuff like dreadnoughts, its very easy and will save you a lot of hassle in the future.

>>50199499

Storm cannon is the best arm. And if you randomly proxy arms just to use the best rules you're a faggot.

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>>50199522

Yellow refers to the link not the picture. Picture is baller.

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>>50198768

>>50198159
They forgive each other long ago, they're just ultra tsundere to each other, both are too proud and too autists to let the thing down, also the rivalry has help each other to push their great exploits even further so they just roll with it, finally each other is afraid of getting too good and ending up killing the other but then again too autists to stop now.

What happens when a Chapter is reduced to one or very few space marines for whatever reason, so it can no longer sustain itself?

Are they supposed to go out and die in battle?

>>50199830
>What happens when a Chapter is reduced to one or very few space marines


Several different possibilities:

The Chapter is disbanded and the survivors are folded into a different under-strength Chapter.

The Chapter is put on hold to be re-grown. It effectively goes through a re-founding, with the Chapter's tithed gene-seed being used to grow new sets of complete gene-seed to be implanted in new recruits.

The parent chapter absorbs the remnants of the successor chapter. This would probably be very common among Ultramarine, Dark Angels, and Blood Angels chapters.

>>50199830
Well, it happened to (Beast Arises spoiler) The Imperial Fists, and the Fists Exemplar were used to re-found them. So that's one canon example. Otherwise, >>50199870 hit it on the head.

Can someone help me? I got all this guard infantry and I need to orginize it in to squads somehow for a platoon and company command squad.

2 commanders
2 medics
Flamer
H flamer
Plasma rifle
Grenade launcher
3 vox
2 sargents
19 regular guard
3 spare guardsmen, yet to be built. I have almost all the weapon options to equip them with.

>>50199830
>>50199870

What happens to Dreadnoughts who find themselves suddenly dispossessed of a Chapter?

I recall there being a Death Watch Dreadnought that was part of the Mantis Warriors at the time they went missing.

The Inquisitor at the time threatened said Dreadnought (who was disobedient regarding his orders to capture a Trygon alive rather than putting an end to the miniature Bio-Titan) with ejection from the Watch, meaning he'd have nothing.

>>50199524
>>50199528
yeah realized that went ahead and ordered an extra seige claw

how are the arm contact points of the leviathan compared to the contemptor, for the contemptor you could just drill into the ball joint at the shoulder for the leviathan it looks like magnetizing would have to be done at the "elbow"

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>>50200035
>condition warriors of the deathwatch to hate and kill xenos with the utmost lack of hesitation and with extreme efficiency
>get pissed at a member, a renowned old as fuck member at that, when he follows that conditioning

>>50199973
>Maximus Thane led the heroes of the Imperium, standing tall in the cupola of the Land Raider Dorn’s Fist. The Imperial Fists marched in tight lockstep, their yellow armour gleaming in the smog-choked morning of Terra. The Imperial Fists were newly gathered as brothers still, and nearly half of those who had taken up the yellow and black to fight on Ullanor had fallen, but they marched as one: Excoriator, Executioner, Iron Knight, Soul Drinker, Black Templar, Crimson Fist and Fist Exemplar had cast off their prior identities and subsumed them into the deeper brotherhood of Dorn. Old ties dissolved into the rebirth of a greater past. Continuation would be their legacy, though none outside the ranks of the Adeptus Astartes would ever know the Imperial Fists had fallen.

Most of them and their chapter master are from the First Exemplar. However, a lot of them are from other Fist successor chapters and this includes the Soul Drinkers.

And this is funny to me. The Soul Drinkers were confirmed in their series to not be from the geneseed of Dorn. So non-Doen geneseed was used to revive the Imperial Fists. Does that confirm that the Imperial Fists got cucked?

>>50199830
>>50199870
>>50200035
Semi-related to this.
You figure any marines ever retired? I don't mean died, I mean settled down a raised orphans or grew crops on some backward planet or something.

>>50200158

Sounds like the Soul Drinkers are the ones who were not the IF.

>>50200264

Nope. Not even a little bit. Closest we get is the Salamanders and that's a very one-sided situation where they operate as caretakers of the people in greater service of the Imperium.

Remember, Heresy stems from idleness.

>>50200333
The Soul Drinker remained ignorant of their true heritage for thousands of years.

The (new) Imperial Fists spent thousands of years cultivating, nurturing, and implanting geneseed that wasn't Dorn's.

>>50200351
Lots of marines are heretics.

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Playing this in a 3v3 game next week, will this be any good?

>>50200374

Nice interface anon, what program?

>>50193548
New ordo
>>50200355
Choose your branch
>>50200355
>puritan or heretical?
>>50200355

>>50200374
>missile launcher
>grenade launcher
Explain.

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>>50194368
Here's another dead easy method.
Just add a bolter grip onto the bottom, cut stuff off the top, add a little plasticard and you're set.
Pic related is my half-painted arbites' shotgun.