Chaos Orks?

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>>50189378

>>50189378
Codex: Daemonhunters has nurgle orkz

>>50189440
Holy shit it's Gork N Mork

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>>50189428
>sane and sensible orks

>>50190761
>being this wrong
it's obviously Mork and then Gork

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>>50190916
>mork den gork
NO YOU GROT ITZ GORK DEN MORK
GORKAMORKA
SEE DATS DA RIOGHT WAY.

>>50189378
>Surely greenskins have been duped in the past into serving Chaos. Are there any instances of this happening?

I don't think any duping is needed nor nessecary; Orks seem like the kind of blokes who'd willingly worship Khorn with no qualms or issues.

Though not explicitly stated to be under the sway of Khorne, there was once a warboss who used a ton of weirboys to teleport his WAAAGH into the eye of terror, and fought through various planets, finally landing on a khornate world and slaughtering them until the daemons finally overcame them through numbers. Khorne was so impressed, he claimed their souls, and rose them from the grave, forcing them to repeat the battle several times. He became so pleased with them, that he eventually teleported them into his personal realm, to fight undying amongst his daemons for eternity.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tuskahttp://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tuska

>>50189378
Long story short: Yes, it is possible, but orks as a group are remarkably remarkable to corruption or subversion, because any subverted/corrupted orks will be viewed as 'un-orky' and killed by their fellows. Successful subversion of orks needs to be either very gradual or absolutely overpowering.

>>50191343

is that ork heaven?

>>50190916
>not worshiping Dork
ITZ LOIK YA GITZ DON EVEN KNO WHA YEAR IT BE

>>50191343
Probably my favorite 40k story.


>>50191433
Pretty much.

"Told ya I knew where da best fightin was"
-Tuska the Demonkilla

>>50191343
Khorne owns his soul. If he wanted, he would have him and his boys reborn as Chaos Orks.

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>>50192383
I doubt that Khorne owns his soul and actually can resurrect Tuska, because Gork and Mork protect souls of Orks. What is going on there is probably Khorne rewinding time to make it so Tuska haven't died and redo the fight over and over again.

>>50189378
I keep comming back to this topic over and over again. Why orks would worship any of chaos [s]gods[/s] gits?

> Slaanesh
Orks don't like arts and reproduce asexually : the only thing their society can have in overabundance is violence.
>Tzeentch
Orks planning complex schemes? Pheh, right. Make no mistake, orks are not dumb, they can make good use of tactics and diversions, even sabotage operations (Kommandos and Blood axes), they are not capable of puppeteering others.
> Nurgle
Orks are very resistant to deseases, because, well, they are fucking orks. They probably can get overwhelmed by some top notch nurgle gifts, but they will simply die from it, not turn into nurgle worshippers. Its simple, papa Nurgle wants your constant despair and grief and orks are incapable of it.

>Khorne
Oh boy, here we go. At first it makes sense for orks to be Khorne worshippers, since orks like pointless violence. But here is the breaking deal : orks are too unorganized to do all the complex shit like proper battle rituals and scull collecting; also unlike Khorne followers who'd prefer to have a challenging fight with equal opponent, orks just want to hit and win.

TLDR: Chaos fans, please stop trying to shoehorn other races into chaos. This whole "I'm in yo base , corrupting your doodes" thing is silly. I swear, I've seen someone discussion how nids could be corrupted if given enough time.

>>50192739
I was betrayed by google: I was promised that I'd get a crossed out text with [s][/s]. Dirty lies.

>>50192739
orks get belched back into new bodies after they die

Chaos and genestealer corruption is rarer in orks than in other species because of the wanton violence

It's a 3 step program
>Ork gets corrupted
>Ork acts funny and sets off the alarms for other boyz
>Other Orks beat the corrupted Ork to death

If they all get hit simultaneously or khorne gets involved it's a different story though

>>50192748
Yeah im not sure why 4chan does not support strikethrough

>>50192739
Oh bot here comes the retarded Orkfanboys.

>I doubt that Khorne owns his soul and actually can resurrect Tuska, because Gork and Mork protect souls of Orks. What is going on there is probably Khorne rewinding time to make it so Tuska haven't died and redo the fight over and over again.

Nope, Khorne owns their souls and he is the one recreating them.

>Orks planning complex schemes? Pheh, right. Make no mistake, orks are not dumb, they can make good use of tactics and diversions, even sabotage operations (Kommandos and Blood axes), they are not capable of puppeteering others.

In Blood Quest, a Tzeentchian Daemon Lord possess an Ork warboss. Possession cannot happen unless the host gets corrupted first.

>Orks are very resistant to deseases, because, well, they are fucking orks.

No, they are not. The hardy but they are not that resistant to plague of any kind especially not to the Nurglite varity. In fact, the CSM codex has an entire Ork warband that got infected and fell to Nurglite corruption. They are called the Green Death.

What Nurgle wants is to spread disease and decay all over the galaxy. The Orks are great vectors for this.

>Oh boy, here we go. At first it makes sense for orks to be Khorne worshippers, since orks like pointless violence. But here is the breaking deal : orks are too unorganized to do all the complex shit like proper battle rituals and scull collecting; also unlike Khorne followers who'd prefer to have a challenging fight with equal opponent, orks just want to hit and win.

Khornate Orks were shown in numerous sources old and new from FFG, BL, and GW.

>also unlike Khorne followers who'd prefer to have a challenging fight with equal opponent, orks just want to hit and win.

Absolutely false and shows bad knowledge of the Orks. Orks seek out powerful opponents all the time. The Ork have a primal need to prove his himself to be superior to anything in front of him.

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>>50192805
Ya 'eard 'em, boys. Kill any ork dat looks funny. All the ones with no scaly bits, only two arms, no claws and no pointy tongues.

>>50192820
cont'ed.

I will see this without spoilers because I want not coward piece of shit like that Ork faggot fanboy. L2fluff and don't throw your headcanon as fluff. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you get to lie about it. It's not "Chaosfags/fans" that "shoehorning anything. This is established fluff that shows that Orks like every other species out there can be corrupted by Chaos. Get it you green faggot or you want to show you some sources to embarrasses you?

>>50192739
>unorganized to do all the complex shit like proper battle rituals and scull collecting; also unlike Khorne followers who'd prefer to have a challenging fight with equal opponent

Nice fanon you got there, anon.

Next you'll tell me Russ is a tractor and Baneblade a light tank.

>>50192739
>papa Nurgle wants your constant despair and grief

I thought Nurgle loved his followers and freed them from feel any pain or effects of illnesses.

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Posting sources of Orks succumbing to Nurglite diseases.

>620.M39 The Dust War

>On the edges of the Ork Empire of Octarius the Death Guard and the Overfiend’s hordes fight over the Urgorn Dust Cloud. A vast asteroid field of psychokinetic rock, the cloud coalesces around the space hulks and scrap-fortresses of the Orks, creating tiny worlds with micro-atmospheres. The Terminus Est wreaks havoc by infecting the environments with its Warp-fly miasma, the ship choking their tiny atmospheres with the bodies of billions of insects. Orks die in their millions, their green corpses bursting into rotting puddles of virulent disease. Yet the war rages on for months as more and more of the aliens spill out of the Octarius Empire looking for a good fight.

Also (picture related) and the picture from the Daemonhunter codexover here >>50189410

>>50192846
Nurgle loves his kids, but his mortal followers are a gloomy bunch. Nurgle daemons inherit his jolly disposition. Meanwhile plaguebearers are somber drones who shuffle about, since they're made from mortals.

>>50192846
Only after great suffering and pain is endured. And he doesn't really free them. They are driven to such madness that the pain just becomes a background buzz.

>>50189378
Khorne and Nurgle yes
Slaanesh and Tzeentch no

>>50192739
>nids being corrupted by Chaos

Literally the only race it makes sense to be immune to it.

>>50192867
>>50192739
>SLAANESH IS ALL ABOUT SEX

I'm so tired of this meme

Speed Freeks would make perfect slaaneshi Orks. The Kult of Speed is all about going fast to fucking EXCESS. And that is the key word with Slaanesh. EXCESS.

>>50192820
>Here we go with the Green Death story again
Got infected - yes. Fell to corruption - why do you think so?

Did they start worshipping Nurgle or summon daemons willingly? Everything Green Death story tells us is that orks attacking planet were eating dead and alive enemies because they were suffering from horrible hunger. Its like there was a parasite(in this case nurglings) inside them that needed nutrition to grow. They did not become Nurgle worshippers because of this.

>The Ork have a primal need to prove his himself to be superior to anything in front of him.
Yet if there was a simple method of easily crumpin` his opponent, like dakka or a backstab, an ork would not hesitate to use it rather than have a head to head fight. Although this probably varies from an ork to another ork.

>Nope, Khorne owns their souls and he is the one recreating them.
Orks there die every day there and release spores. Then Khorne probably bends time so spores can mature quikly to make new bodies and Tuska's boyz souls come back there simply because there are no other bodies nearby to reincarnate in since they are so deep in an eye of terror. This could be done by G `n M duo and not Khorne. We have no evidence that its not them, so your guess is as good as mine. Ultimately its Khorne who reaps the benefits of Tuska's Valhalla, while Gork and Mork are too stubborn to give a soul of such stubborn ork boss to Khorne.

>Tzeentchian Daemon Lord possess an Ork warboss. Possession cannot happen unless the host gets corrupted first.
Corrupted like - swears his allegiance to Tzeentch?

>>50192824
I've noticed how Chaos fanbase treats other races fans, maybe other fanbases should start returning the favour? You people are making me sick with your elitism sometimes.
>like every other species out there can be corrupted by Chaos.
Are you the same person that claimed that nids could get corrupted?

>>50193024
Well, same could be said about dakka. but note that its not excess only, its excess and perfection; now can you imagine orks going for perfection? Also I did mention art and overabundance in my post >>50192739, I know that slaanesh is not all about orgies.

>>50192739
>Slaanesh
>Orks don't like arts and reproduce asexually : the only thing their society can have in overabundance is violence.
Flash gitz, freebootaz, bad moons, goff rokkas. Orks thrive on excessive displays. Usually violent ones, but not always. If you think orks have nothing to them besides violence, you'z a git.

>Tzeentch
>Orks planning complex schemes? Pheh, right.
Blood axes, deff skullz. Remember what colour the orks consider luckiest.

>Nurgle
>Orks are very resistant to deseases, because, well, they are fucking orks.
Green is best, and the biggest is obviously the boss.

We've got canonical (that is to say, GW-straight) examples of orks going to khorne and nurgle. Tzeentch and slaanesh are a harder sell, but it's not outside the realms of possibility.

Just doesn't happen often. Chaos is a bad meme, but orks have never been immune, just exceptionally resistant.

>>50192824
Now call him a nigger

>>50193032
>Got infected - yes. Fell to corruption - why do you think so?

Because it happened before and that's how Nurgle gets his followers. The moment they were infected, they became slaves to Nurgle.

>Yet if there was a simple method of easily crumpin` his opponent, like dakka or a backstab, an ork would not hesitate to use it rather than have a head to head fight. Although this probably varies from an ork to another ork.

The Orks challenge things and fight them head on. They do it all the fucking time.

Also they enslave the weak regardless of race.

Don't pretend you know anything about Orks.

>Orks there die every day there and release spores. Then Khorne probably bends time so spores can mature quikly to make new bodies and Tuska's boyz souls come back there simply because there are no other bodies nearby to reincarnate in since they are so deep in an eye of terror. This could be done by G `n M duo and not Khorne. We have no evidence that its not them, so your guess is as good as mine. Ultimately its Khorne who reaps the benefits of Tuska's Valhalla, while Gork and Mork are too stubborn to give a soul of such stubborn ork boss to Khorne.

Nice headcanon faggot. Sorry that you have zero fluff to proof it.

Khorne has their souls. In fact, they aren't the only dudes to suffer this fate.

>Corrupted like - swears his allegiance to Tzeentch?

Corrupted like any race and twisted to the service of Chaos.

>I've noticed how Chaos fanbase treats other races fans, maybe other fanbases should start returning the favour? You people are making me sick with your elitism sometimes.

No, treat your sorry fanbases filled with ignorant idiots and liars.

>Are you the same person that claimed that nids could get corrupted?

And Tyranids have been corrupted before.

No race is beyond corruption. The only race we have no examples of them being corrupted are Necrons and it's only a matter of time.

>>50193073
No, that would be racist and I am not a racist. However, he is a faggot.

>>50193094
>703.M41 A MADDENING GIFT

>Seething after an imperfect regrowth that he judges to be a deliberate slight, the disfigured Acothyst Mydilian gifts his masters in the Coven of Twelve with a flock of Aelindrachi shaderavens. The avian terrors are well received, for though it is rumoured their caw slowly drives those who hear it insane, it would be seen as an act of cowardice to refuse them. Given the inherent strangeness of the Haemonculi, few notice that the Coven of Twelve are becoming ever more eccentric.

>A year to the day after Mydilian’s gift, several of the Coven’s senior Haemonculi depart into a shattered spar of the webway without warning. Their clarity of thought long gone, they plunge through a forbidden gate onto a long-lost crone world, rubbing their clammy hands in anticipation of having daemonic ‘specimens’ to experiment upon.

>Upon a plain of burning bones the Covenites find more in the way of Daemons than they bargained for. The horizon is scarlet from end to end with the footsoldiers of the dreaded Blood God. A never-ending cycle of battle begins as the souls of the Haemonculi are claimed as playthings by Khorne himself, denying them any chance of regeneration in their Commorrite lairs. They are condemned to an endless grind of unimaginative but extremely gory deaths, whilst Mydilian and three of his peers enjoy a sudden promotion.

And here is coven of Dark Eldar dying on a Khornate daemon world and suffering the same fate as Tuska and his boys.

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>>50193117
Also did that faggot imply that backstabbing and low blow tactics are not Khornate?

>>50193052
>Flash gitz, freebootaz, bad moons, goff rokkas.
Well, its the kind of excess that exists to fuel more violence, not kind of excess that exists so you can get off. Flashgitz going moar dakka to shred opponents, Freebotaz wanting da bling so everyone knows `ooz da real kaptin, so they can boss other gitz around, bad moons spend their teeth mainly on snazzy weapons rather than decorations, and goff rokkers... Well, I could actually imagine goff rokker using sound cannon to blast gits. But using a perfected high pitched shriek to shred foes? Does not seem right.
>Blood axes, deff skullz. Remember what colour the orks consider luckiest.
Da blu) But I meantioned both of them in my post >>50192739. They can plan somewhat complex plans, but they do it to backstab some gitz(literally) and not to puppeteer their enemies to follow their orders while they sip maragritas in the shadows. Thats Tzeentch thing. Also ork weirdboyz are uncapable of refined arcane arts, simply because they are lighting rods for spontaneous overwhelming Waagh! energy.
>Green is best, and the biggest is obviously the boss.
But how can you follow the orders of gloomy and depressed git? Again, I mentioned it in my post, orks don't feel lang losting sorrow or grief and thats what Nurgle is after.

>>50193094
A refined example of chaos assholitism. People like you make chaos fanbase look like ignorant douches. At least I was trying to act nicely. Go fuck yourself man.

>>50193136
>A refined example of chaos assholitism. People like you make chaos fanbase look like ignorant douches. At least I was trying to act nicely. Go fuck yourself man.

A nice non-argument from you. Glad that you conceded that you are wrong and that you are indeed a faggot.

>>50189434

>filename

I see what you did there heretic

>>50193100
Doesn't everyone on 4chan call someone a nigger/faggot at some point? I know /tg/ is the best board but come on, occasionally you can fall into the stereotype.

There is another example of Chaos Orks and it comes from "Angron's Monolith" novel.

Feral Orks that were born near the Angron's Monolith were corrupted by Khorne. They started painting themelves red and drawing a crude version of Khorne's symbol. It was noted that they were fighting with more fury and rage than their other counterparts.

>>50193156
Racism outside of /b/ is forbidden.

>>50193094
>Khorne has their souls. In fact, they aren't the only dudes to suffer this fate.
Like the Blood Ravens, Imperial Knights, Eldar, and Orks in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZgyNoHtjw

Guess I'll be getting hit with a ban hammer then

>>50193174
shut up nigger

>>50193014

>what are Necrons

>>50193146
I'll put it simple - I can't treat your posts seriously anymore because apparently you are the same person that tried to prove that nids could get corrupted some time ago.

Whats next? Necrons embracing the chaos? Tau tzeentch psychers? Chaos wants to be the big bad all ending threat - and they can't accept that other races are equally dangerous without beeing juiced up by chaos. Shopehorning entire setting into "everything was chaos and will be chaos again" reminds me of kids playing a game while one of them keeps - a chaos faggot like you are - keeps comming up with his own shit on the fly to force onto others; I had an unpiercable shield; Good thing my dude had an emergency teleportation device; He had a clone of himself stored for this occasion;

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>>50193167
Depending on your view of FFG, youi have the Blood Boyz from Tome of Blood. These guys were corrupted by the Chaos entity within the planet and started worshiping Khorne. They formed their own sub-culture in the Ork society in the planet.

Anyways, about the whole Ork Chaos boyz and Genestealer boyz being rare....

You guys do realize that there are probebly more Chaotic Orks and genestealer Orks than there are Tau and Eldar in the galaxy. That's enough numbers for them to get their own codexes.

>>50193014
How so? Corruption is not a disease they can't just adapt away and no amounts of shadows cast into the warp will make it go away once it settles in.

Hell, I'm surprised there isn't more corrupt fleets. Kroot get fucked when they eat tainted flesh, how are Tyranids able to assimilate flesh of the corrupt and just pray the gay away?

>>50193185
My man!

>>50193217
Nids have no desires. They cannot be corrupted by the chaos gods because they have nothing to offer them.

They are closer to machines than they are to sentient beings.

>>50193192
Ignoring your rest of whiny post, I'll address the interesting bits.

>Necrons embracing the chaos?

Why the fuck not? In the HH series, a Sister of Silence uses sorcery to gain a soul and she becomes a powerful sorcerer.

Necrons desire their souls back and they are always power hungry. Add in madness and stupidity caused by the great sleep and it writes it own self.

>Tau tzeentch psychers?

In the Tranzia Rebellion audio series, A Tau betrays his people and joins up with a CSM to dig up source of warp power beneath the planet. If the CSM didn't betray the Tau dude, what would have happened if they shared that power?

Considering that a Pariah can become a sorcerer, why wouldn't a Tau?

>>50193217
The ability for nids to pray the gay away is well documented.

>>50193243
And yet they were corrupted. A hive ship was corrupted and enslaved by the Iron Warriors in Storm of Iron".

Also in the "Daemon World", The Slaaneshi faction on the daemon world has Tyranid slaves working in the bone mines.

Also a whole genetealer cult was corrupted by Nurgle in the Genesteal-dex.

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>>50193192
>they can't accept that other races are equally dangerous without beeing juiced up by chaos

Dude, what?

Claiming one race is above and beyond the unnatural corrupting influence of Chaos is like the kid who decides they got an all proof shield that deflects everything thrown at it.

It's got nothing to do with "nobody can be dangerous except Chaos" it's "everyone plays by the same rules." Chaos can taint the pages of a book just by someone writing about it on its pages. What sort of matter are non-humans made out of, if they're totally immune to it.

>inb4 "living metal"

Pic related, but imagine it without the C'tan.

>>50193206

GW should fukken clarify it all one day witha Chaos Xenos supplement to use as allies for some armies.

>>50193261
None of which makes any fucking sense

Tyranid slaves? Thats absolutely retarded.

The Black Library is full of garbage, doesn't mean any of it should be taken as canon

Or else I want my fucking multilaser terminators.

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>>50193243
>Nids have no desires.

Neither do books, tanks or rocks, yet they get corrupted as well. The codex astartes leaves no room for doubt.

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>>50193281
>the codex astartes.

>>50193247
And at the same time there's cases of them being wrought with Nurgle's Rot, enslaved by Slaanesh or manipulated by the Obliterator Virus.

>>50193287
WHERE ARE MY MULTILASER TERMINATORS ANON

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>>50193286

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>>50193293

>>50193280
>None of which makes any fucking sense

I don't give a damn what makes sense to you. The point here is that it exists and that it's more canonical than your headcanon.

>>50193297
THEN I DEMAND MULTILASER TERMINATORS.

>>50193261
>A hive ship was corrupted and enslaved by the Iron Warriors in Storm of Iron".
If I'm not mistaking, Iron Warriors used a floating corpse of hive ship to get to some location while beeing inside. Thats not corruption.

>>50193280
> The Black Library is full of garbage, doesn't mean any of it should be taken as canon
Finally a voice of reason.

>>50193298
You won't get any. CS Goto Dawn of War series novels were removed from BL site a long time ago.

>>50193280
>Tyranid slaves? Thats absolutely retarded.

How so? Their fucking codex says that if not connected to the Hive Mind via a synapse creature, the lesser beings revert to animal instinct. After that it's only a matter of applying voltage to get them to do what you want.

>>50193289
I want eldar-human procreation. And won't accept any multilaser terminators unless they are backflipping.

>>50193305
Oh so now its not canon because you say so?

>>50193301
It was specifically corrupted by the Obliterator Virus to act as a transport for titans.

>>50193301
>If I'm not mistaking

Your all existence is a mistake.

The Iron Warriors infected the ship with the taint of Chaos. Then they dragged it to the Eye of Terror where the sorcerers spent an unknown amount of time breaking it and corrupting it further.

>>50193309
Those same lesser creatures often lack digestive organs and will die within days. Once again, it makes no fucking sense

And what good would a fucking gaunt do as a slave? Its a fucking psychotic murderbeast with insane amounts of adrenaline running through its veins that exists only to kill.

>>50193313
It's the only series of books ever to be removed from the BL site.

Also it was overwritten by newer content so yes. It's not canonical.

>>50193313
You got your multi-laser terminators, they're right there in the novels. Nobody's demanding the game to have rules for Chaos tyranids, so why should you get your multi-laser terminators?

>>50193315
"Fortunately, though GW demand that anything published through the Black Library be considered canon, they also state that canon doesn't necessarily mean true. "

>>50193309
But anon, thats animal training and herding, rather than corruption. And it'd probably start failing the second any synapse creature appeared nearby.

>>50193321
>Those same lesser creatures often lack digestive organs and will die within days

Good point.

>>50193287
I didn't say anything about the effects of chaos, only the gay.

>>50193321
>Those same lesser creatures often lack digestive organs and will die within days. Once again, it makes no fucking sense

Heck no.

Some Tyranid beasts like Warriors and gaunts can survive long after their Hive Fleet was defeated. They hide in the shadows and breed until it's time for them to strike.

That's why sudden Tyranid infestation flare up on worlds.

>>50193330
GW NEVER made any official statement on the canon. Don't bring 14dchan bullshit here.

>>50193340
Do i need to literally pull out quotes about many species of nids having literally no digestive system.

Because gaunts literally don't have digestive systems.

>>50193321
Often, but not always. Or just hook them with IVs to pump their systems full of nutrients and there's no knowing how long they can keep going.

>>50193353
Please do. Enquiring minds want to know more

>>50193353
Well, clearly even without tracts they can live long enough to pose a new threat to a world.

Hell, all we know is that they don't have a digestive tract, not that they can't be fed in any way. Making them reliant on some larger creatures to provide them nutrients would be a very good way to ensure the things don't wander too far off alone, even without direct synapse control.

>>50193335
>Good point.

What do you mean good point? You guys never read about the Octarius war?

The Tyranid tendril that was invading was obliterated except for a few spores that managed to land. The Tyranids that emerged from the spores hide from the Orks and fought a shadow war against them slowly gathering biomass until they became an army big enough to take over the world. Affter they beat the Orks on the planet, they started spawning Hive ships and rebuilding the fleet from zero.

>>50193358
3rd ed codex has a whole 2 page spread on tyranid biology

it specifically notes that they lack any digestive organs, as well as not having a liver, kidney, or any digestive track

Because that shit's just extra to a literal living weapon.

>>50193373
You say that like tyranids can't re-use their own biomass to make more of them.

Not all nids lack Digestive systems, just most combat morphs

Rippers have digestive systems.

Tyranids do feed, but they don't have digestive systems. They rely on Phage cells to allow them to process biomass goop that you see in Reclamation pools.

>>50193373
Well, shit. But probably creatures that emerged from spores were synapse creatures designed to last long. Normal gaunts would die from hunger.

>>50193398
Rippers don't make use of it themselves, they just nom nom and then suicide into acidic pools on planet's surface and then those pools get sucked into hive ships.

>>50193416
the reclamation pools are also what feed other tyranids.

>>50193397

...how the fuck does that work? That's just retarded. What? They need no way to intake nutrients into their system? No way to filter their blood? What the hell are they teaching in biology in your country anon? Those are vital organs, you can't just not have them.

>>50193429
they do it all with phage cells instead.

Nids don't have those organs. They just don't

They are alien bio-weapons. Not a normal species. They are engineered for war, every piece of their DNA carefully engineered by the norn queens to ensure that they are the most effective weapon possible.

They have no free will, only purpose instilled to them through the hive mind.

And that purpose is to kill.

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>>50193398
You said that Tyranids would die off in a few days.

Oh look, they adapted and started spawning more of their kind. Eventually they spawned ships.

Also in the Imperial Armor and the "Knight Companion" , the captured Tyranuid survived what? Months in imprisonment. In the Imperiak armor book, they eventually broke out and thrived. The lesser Tyranids evolved into the bigger kinds of Tyranids, even biotitans.

>just most combat morphs

Then what's the problem then? Those with digestive systems get enslaved. Heck, those you think don't have any, can evolve to have some.

>>50193443
Its not my fault that GW's shitty writers don't understand the lore of their own creation

Given that they're being written by Cruddace now, they're probably gonna get squatted given the company's utter disregard for the race.

>>50193421
I don't think. The Imperial armor Tyranids didn't have no reclamation pools to feed them. They reproduced and took over by their own.

>>50193443
>before returning to digestion pools

They literally aren't eating there. They're just claiming more and more biomass to use for spawning more and more nids.

>>50193451
if you're referring to this >>50193443
then it literally says digestion pool, which is a reclamation pool.

>>50193452
>then it literally says digestion pool, which is a reclamation pool.

Which the The Anphelion Project Tyranids didn't have since they were guests of the Imperials, and yet they reproduced and evolved.

>>50193476
"Then the Tyranids in another section vanished. A failure in the containment fence in the third section loosed the Tyranids upon the moon. The creatures had hid in the jungles and swamps until they reached sufficient numbers to overwhelm the labs' garrison of three hundred"

They probably did have that.

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>>50193281
>yet rocks get corrupted as well
wut

>>50193487
Even if the Tyranids had them, the Tyranids specimens were in their cells for a lengthly period of time. Some of them even evolved while inside their containment cells. Sustaining themselves and growing wings and extra stuff requires energy taken from....FOOD.

>>50193510
so we can safely assume that GW doesn't understand the nids own lore

Because they literally don't have digestive systems.

>>50193518
They saw what condition they were in and decided to evolve digestive systems. There done.

>>50193526
Individual nids cannot choose to 'evolve', only a norn queen can guide the evolution of her fleet

>>50193518
Chaos mutates shit. They got blessed with digestive tracks so the gods could fuck with them longer.

>>50193538
for what purpose

they don't have any emotions.

they are useless to chaos.

>>50193534
And yet the bloody Tyranids in the cell evolved while inside their cells.

The Tyranids here >>50193443 sure hell had no Norm queen directing their evolution. Their fleet tendril is dead.

>>50193546
which is just proof that GW literally doesn't understand how their own lore works

>>50193541
>they are useless to chaos.

They are useless. Their rending claws are useful to dig into the diamond hard bones of a daemon world. Also their ships are useful for carrying Chaos titans

>>50193552
yeah thats fucking retarded

>>50193552
Not useless.

>>50193549
Or maybe your understanding of the lore is flawed.

Could Gork and Mork beat the Chaos gods

>>50193562
No. I'm literally reading out how tyranids work from their goddamn codexes

This is how they work.

GW is fucking retarded

>>50193564
If they could, then they would have. Currently, Gork and Mork are fighting the daemon hordes of Chaos in the Warp while directing their Orks to foil the plans of the Chaos Gods.

>>50192739
>Orks don't like arts and reproduce asexually : the only thing their society can have in overabundance is violence.
A Mek that wants his Stompa to be perfect at all costs is just as vulnerable as a space-cocaine addicted highborn Imperial noble
>Orks planning complex schemes? Pheh, right. Make no mistake, orks are not dumb, they can make good use of tactics and diversions, even sabotage operations (Kommandos and Blood axes), they are not capable of puppeteering others.
Tzeentch is mostly god of betrayal and change.
Orks kill eachother all the time, while their betrayal aren't usually very finese or sneaky, it happens
And I have not even mentioned Weirdoboyz.
>. They probably can get overwhelmed by some top notch nurgle gifts, but they will simply die from it, not turn into nurgle worshippers.
>>50189410
NEXT
>Its simple, papa Nurgle wants your constant despair and grief and orks are incapable of it.
Except many of his followers are fucking happy.
And despair is what starts Nurgle worshipp.
Would it really be that strange if orcs got ill and started praying to the other green god that told them he can make them fight once more?
>But here is the breaking deal : orks are too unorganized to do all the complex shit like proper battle rituals and scull collecting;
Many orcs already collect trophies, majority takes teeth from their fallen companions.
>lso unlike Khorne followers who'd prefer to have a challenging fight with equal opponent, orks just want to hit and win.
>Khorne is honorable meme
Khorne cares from whence the blood flows
Many berzerkers also want to hit and win.

And it's not like Khorne followers and Orks both look for the biggest foe to krump

TL:DR Orks are not special uncorruptible snowflakes

>>50192821
Are there any mentions of Ork Geneastealer Cults in recent editions?

An Ork the Thing is a really funny and unsettling scenario

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>>50193584
>Except many of his followers are fucking happy.

Who?

>>50193050
>its excess and perfection; now can you imagine orks going for perfection?
Yes
It is really all they do
They just call it enough dakka

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>>50193296

>>50193610
There's also the one mek, who wanted to build a highway through the galaxy to ride his bike across it.

>>50193261
not corrupted but possessed.

Chaos can possess anything but Blanks and Pariahs

>>50193629
HH novels have the most powerful pariahs ever getting possessed.

>>50193575
I'm a 40K lore noobie, are you being serious?

I thought we knew very little of Gork and Mork.

>>50193656
Yes, read up on it in the newer Ork dex.

>>50193666
I'm surprised. I figured Gork and Mork would be pretty beefy based off how many orks there are.

>>50193244
>>50193192
>Necrons embracing the chaos?
I remember the screencap from 'Cron codex that said they are too boring for chaos. Can't find it now
>>50193534
Isn't a norm queen just a myth?

Khork
Tzzorktzch
Norkle
Slanorksh

>>50193639
>HH novels
They are full of retarded bullshit, I hope they'll eventually get removed from the canon
>>50193602
They are so sad and sick they are happy
This is literally how it works.

>>50193695
Norn queens are not a myth, no.

>>50193128
Indeed.

I don't know exactly how canon FFG's stuff is, but the Tome of Blood has someone killing their friend (by luring him to an altar under false pretences) as the last sacrifice in a series of 64 to dedicate himself to Khorne.

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>>50193128
>>50193739
To be fair two of the most known Khorne's betrayers- Kharn and Skarbrand, were both influenced by Tzeentch

Khorne is still a baby-tier when it comes to betraying people

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>>50191433
>In many ways, Tuska had come home.

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>>50193836

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Also, in light of the argument over nid survival/digestion/reproduction/whatever, dumping some tl;dranid fluff from various editions of the codex for people to do with as they will, starting with the biology report mentioned earlier.

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>>50193866

>>50193866
>5e

i do not recognize the legitimacy of cruddexes.

>>50193873
The 4th edition codex had great fluff. It described almost everything from the perspective of imperial xenosavants and made tyranids seem really badass and scary.

Cruddace's fluff was a fucking mess. He made nids afraid of going through the warp. He made nids seem like stupid automatons that only work because the norns gave them a basic programming. He made them less competent than the tau and the orks. He removed any semblance of mystery and ominousness they may have. He humanized hive tyrants by giving them reincarnation powers. And worse yet he suggested that the nids might be running away from bigger aliens.

>>50189378
Here's the thing:

Chaos works like people imagined radiation works in the 80's. It's this ultra dangerous stuff that goes through walls and instantly alters your very essence upon the first touch.

As such, everything can fall to chaos whether they want or not upon exposure. The likelihood of falling to chaos however is highly dependent on the individual's awareness of the influence and their strength of will.

Orkz, being generally happy-go-lucky and quite légère when it comes to living, probably don't really have the philosophical introspekshun to become aware of a possible corruption seeping into their bodies and minds. So Orkz becoming corrupted until they fall to the Gods is probably more likely than we have attributed sources for, however I would argue that as soon as corruption becomes apparent, >>50191387 comes into effect.

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>>50193902
Well, you can see the Hormagaunt entry at least is largely based on the original codex/Hive War, although body fluids was changed to meat.

>>50193312
>And won't accept any multilaser terminators unless they are backflipping.
> "It take a while to get used to the firing procedure, but you should see when the whole unit is at it. Very graceful."

>>50192820
So would you say that they *can* become corrupted, but it doesn't happen as often?

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>>50192739
>TLDR: Chaos fans, please stop trying to shoehorn other races into chaos. This whole "I'm in yo base , corrupting your doodes" thing is silly. I swear, I've seen someone discussion how nids could be corrupted if given enough time.
Anon you are thicker then a brick

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>>50193174
>Racism outside of /b/ is forbidden.
>saying nigger or nigga
>on 4chan
>verboten?
I think that has more to do with posting Awhitemann's drawings and shit
also this clearly lacks /pol/ in that exception

>>50193496
i assume he means planets.

>>50194972
Also, literal rocks. Witness the Yu'Vath's warp-powered crystal technology from the FFG RPGs, for instance.

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>>50193705
>They are so sad and sick they are happy
>This is literally how it works.

Then you shouldn't have any trouble finding a plethora of source how his Mortal followers are a jolly bunch, because all I can find related to his mortal followers is what sad fucks they are.

>>50193136
there is direct GW fluff showing orks fallen to Nurgle posted in this fucking thread you mongoloid, and I'm an ork player.

Granted the orks worshipped Nurgle by accident at first because it was a big green totem that they assumed was for Gork (or possibly mork) but they still worshipped him and got corrupted

Look at this shit and tell me what else that could possibly be
>>50189410

>>50189434
>>50189428
This is official GW fluff?

>>50197419
Rogue Trader era. Freebooterz: Space Ork Army Lists, I believe.

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Lets' not forget another possibility for Slaneshi orks.

>>50197419
>>50197464
to both of you
Yes
you are right

>>50193274
I second the idea!!!

>>50197525
>Sladeshi Orks

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>>50197525
holy fuck
the bassist is lemmy

come to think of it, motorhead is fucking orky as fuck

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>>50198361
I think it's suppose to look more like Slash though. or maybe it's a mix of the two.

>>50198598
either way its the best of two worlds

>>50196531
>It is his most successful endeavour -incurable, highly infectious, and with a very, very slow course. The perfect illness does not kill its host quickly; rather, it slowly turns the victim's body into a bloated, rotting corpse.

What if they go full AdMech and turn it into a robot, first? Replace all their flesh and organs with steel and circuit. Lungs and heart and blood, digestive system and liver and gut, bone and muscle and skin and sinew, until nothing of the human body but the brain encased in a shell of cogitator circuits and plasteel remains.

>>50193217
Chaos Genestealer cults used to be a thing, so Nids aren't necessarily immune.

>>50203058
As long as it has a soul, it's fucked. Nurgle's Rot infects your soul and there is no physical cure for it. It withers your spirit, slowly leeching it and turning it into a plaguebearer. The longer you resist, the stronger the resulting daemon.

>>50192846
It's not so much that Nurgle loves its followers so much as Nurgle loves to make its followers miserable. Remember, the great majority of Nurgle's worshippers turn to it to seek release from the torture of diseases - the same diseases Nurgle spreads. It is a laughing god, not because it loves its servants, but because it enjoys watching them suffer and succumb to their illness. Think of it like protection money: you give Nurgle your soul and undying loyalty, and it'll turn off the horrible death switch for all the diseases it gave you (all the while laughing at your misfortune).
True Nurgle worshippers, however, are a different story. These are the crazy, sadistic bastards who turn to Nurgle not to make the pain stop, but because they genuinely want to spread despair and decay across the galaxy. These are rare kindred spirits to the Father of Pestilence, and they are the only mortals that the Dark God of Despair laughs with, not at.

>>50203384
So, what about warp sorcery, then? Use the sympathetic link between you and the warp pod in Nurgle's Realm to blow it up, or just go around eating other people's souls to sustain your own like the Dark Eldar or the Emperor do.

>>50196531
>because all I can find related to his mortal followers is what sad fucks they are.

>>50193602
>While non-believers may moan in anguish when crippling plague sweeps the lands, those dedicated to Nurgle laugh and dance to see the great works of their master unfold.

>>50203675
One line among plethora of people worshiping Nurgle to take away their pain and he just gives them more aids.

Guess that proves once and for all that Nurgle followers are a jovial bunch who dance and sing all day long.

I'm always amused at how dense WH40K faggots are.

Your shitty lore constantly Contradicts itself so much that you faggots cherry pick your own prefered lore then call all other versions headcannon.

I'v never seen a WH40K thread not turn into a shitflinging contest and to be frank it is this toxicity that pushes me away other than you know the shit lore written by mentally handicapped people that only think bigger is better.

>>50204034
>and to be frank it is this toxicity that pushes me away
Wish you'd fucking stayed away tbqh mate.

>>50193836
Tuska Da DaemonKilla, az a noice ring to et, eh?

>>50204034
On Chaos Orks it does not.

>>50203727
>The battle has ended
>Thousands of corpses lie around, blown to meaty giblets by now-silenced guns
>The screams of the wounded pierce the air, becoming less and less frequent
>Nurgle cultists on 'cleanup' duty
>Spontaneous song and dance number about the joys of serving jolly ole Papa Plague

>>50204489
Cheer up, Typhus. You know what they say.
Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad.
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle,
Don't grumble, give a whistle!
And this'll help things turn out for the best
And

Always look on the blight side of life!

Always look on the blight side of life
If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten!
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing,

When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps,
Just purse your lips and whistle -- that's the thing!
And always look on the blight side of life

Come on!

Always look on the blight side of life

For life is quite absurd,
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow!
Forget about your sin -- give the Emperor a grin,
Enjoy it, it's the last chance anyhow!

So always look on the blight side of death!
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
Life's a piece of shit,
When you look at it.

Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true,
You'll see it's all a show,
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you!

And always look on the blight side of life

Always look on the blight side of life

Come on guys, cheer up

Always look on the blight side of life

Always look on the blight side of life

Always look on the blight side of life

...

>>50204489
>Including skipping through the field of corpses
>And a chorus of nurglings

>>50204061
Glad you don't even try to counter me but instead go "reeeee it is my cesspool anyway"