Warhammer 40k General

>>50188033

FIRST FOR DARK ELDAR

Can I play with a majority Tau suit army (some fire warriors to support) if I don't take anything bigger than a Ghostkeel without being that guy?

Is one OSC at 1500 points too strong? When would it be more tolerable? 2000?

>>50188055

I just want Wyches to be good.

>tfw no Cult of Strife supplement

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How do we work 2hu into 40/30k?

>>50188085
You go to a different board or thread.

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Question: if you order some stuff to your local GW store, do they keep it there indefinitely until you come get it? I wanna get that CSM Sorcerer from Made To Order, but I'll be out of the country around the time it should be arriving.

>>50188055

Got a question about DELDAR

Should I be painting them before I glue the miniatures together? I tried with one and had trouble with some parts.

>>50188109
Do a dryfit and leave the bothersome bits unglued.

>>50188118

a dryfit?

>>50188092
How about:

Youkai = daemons (unaligned)
Gods = chaos gods
Witches/Shrinebitches = psykers
Gensokyo = containment subspace somewhere at the border between realspace and the warp
Raymoo = emperor's bastard daughter

>>50188108
If you are a regular and the employee is cool probably, its a case to case basis.

Why don't you arrange someone to pick it up for you and get it when you come home.

Do chaos spell familiars share the same bases as the sorcerer? I know the combat familiars do thanks to 1d4chan but I dont if spell senpaitachi function the same way.

why do tau exist

>>50188121
Use poster gum, blutac or whatever.

Lets you check poses before you commit.

>>50188126
How about Cancer, Cancer, Cancer, Cancer, Cancer.

No more (you)s for you

>>50188109

I glue everything except the arms on and it usually let's me paint everything I need to get at, I paint the guns on the sprue aswell so I've got something to hold on to. I'm not the best painter though but it makes it easier for me.

>>50188135
There's a market

>>50188024
Annoying perhaps, but it's nowhere close to optimal if you want guard to be as "good" as they can be. You can only call in artillery from 18" of a vox. If the DEldar player took the appropriate actions against an iG army, it'd be wrecked.

The list combined with the positioning, especially of the veterans, betrays a lack of understanding in how guard work.

>>50188080

Agreed, I was late to the party with them just as they got nerfed but love the idea and models. I'll have to settle for harlequins bringing the close quarter blood bath.

>>50188148
>>50188138

Thanks for the tips guys appreciate it! Can't paint anymore today (fucking forgot to buy a fine detail brush and a few key paints) but hopefully i will have some pics tomorrow.

>>50188108
Is this on their website? I can only see sold out guard stuff.

>>50188058

You can go full Farsight, so long as you leave a few weak points.

Suggestions: Centralise all your markerlights. Mine are generally 7 in one unit, with a single one able to split fire. This leaves the possibility my opponent might eliminate my marker support, and forces me to Mont'ka: Focus on eliminating a few key threats at a time. I only ever have extra Markers if I take Remora drones.

2: Strictly 1 riptide or variant per 1000. No superheavy suits. One looks and fluffs like ass and the other is £250 anyhow, you don't need 'em.

3: No OSC, but take the stealth suits anyhow. They're decent at anti-horde, but still points-inefficient enough compared to some of your other options to lower your optimisation a bit.

>>50188157

In the players defense he doesn't really play them much and is still getting a feel for them, he'll learn I'm sure.

So I want my Dark Angels list to be good but not crazy cheesy so I am sticking away from 2+ Jink Saves

How would this list do against other Space Marine, Space Wolves, Chaos Daemons, Tau and Dark Eldar lists?

I am building this list to try and use my Dark Talon


CAD:
HQ: Lvl2 Biker Lib (110)
Elite: Five Man Ravenwing Command Squad with RW Banner and Apothecary (250)
Troops: 2 Ten Man Tactical Units in Rhinos with Combi-Melta and Melta Gun (195)

RWAS:
Full Bike Squadron with 2 Melta Guns, Combi-Melta, Multi-Melta Attack Bike (235)
Ravenwing Landspeeder with 2 Multi-Meltas (75)

RWSF:
HQ: Lvl2 Biker Lib w/ Shroud of Heroes (120)
Fast Attack: 4 Black Knights (160) and a Dark Talon (160)
If my opponent doesn't want to face a flier I can swap out the Dark Talon for four more Black Knights to take its place.

1500/1500

Is the shroud of heroes worth it for the RWSF Lib or would I be better off giving the CAD Lib a Combi-Melta and stick it with the Attack Squadron bike squad.

Should my outflanking Librarian be with the second strike forces black knights or alone with its shrouded to work its way to the second librarian and command squad?

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>>50188033

So this is my first paint job in about 4 years, really basic and I'm not sure I like the colours but I thought I would share it and ask for some advice.

Go as rough as you feel like

>>50188200
No yeah I don't mean to talk shit, but the guy I was talking with is making it seem like your friend brought the end-all-be-all of guard, and to me it kinda just looked like a new guard player that wanted to try their historic strengths (artillery/Wyverns and heavy armour) out

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>>50188055

>>50188157

As that DEldar player, what was the appropriate action? I used my venoms to clear a path and scare off the vets/remove vox and tried to make his artillery snapfire but ravager rolls sucked ass, 2 bike squads died before they got to do anything and the 3rd killed a basilisk then died.

>>50188218
Backdrop, Crop, rotate, resize.

>>50188218
...you highlighted silver with light blue.

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>>50188144
Kill those who insult touhou.

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Anybody ever used the Arvus Lighter at all? I know it's renowned for being a terrible flyer, but I'm interested in using it as deep strike platform for metla/heavy flamer veterans, and I'd like to know if my idea is really dumb or just slightly dumb

>>50188218
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>Go as rough as you feel like

RESIZE AND ROTATE

>Al this flat ass blue .

Is his dick flap supposed to be glowing.


Why would you edge his face and stuff in that blue thought seriously.

Also your eyes are obviously spilling over.

Its probably fine for table top though so who gives a shit.

>>50188254

Yeah I figured that wasn't the best idea, what would you suggest with this colour scheme? I was thinking of changing some of the highlights to orange.

>>50188269

Yeah I forgot to buy a fine detail brush, I was planing on redoing most of the details when I acquire that. How would you suggest making the blue POP more

>>50188218

Maybe eee give the silver a wash/glaze of purple or green aaaand I'd suggest giving them a wash before you give it another even lighter thinner edge highlight of the blue?

>>50188295

Good ideas, i will pick up a purple tomorrow and try that out thanks.

>>50188135
Because faggots exist.

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>>50188218
Take this, and then go to /WIP/ >>50182545

You need more help that a few posts here can offer so no reason to bloat this thread.

>>50188218
Silver should be all silver, black or purple wash, then silver again.

Blue should have an intermediate in the middle. You've gone from dark to lightest. Wash the first layer of blue, then a middle blue, then the edge highlight of lightest blue.

That cloth should be a completely different colour.

>>50188268
Not what you're looking for, but I played a narrative mission that used one. It's very expensive for what it can do and was annihilated by a Hyperios battery. Good game though.

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Awwwww yeah, we posting Dark Eldar?
Here's papa. Little buddy Cronos is up next, but no pictures of Talos, it's a WIP.

>>50188272

How many models have you done? You should thin the paints mang.

If you're thinking blue and silver with orange spot colour I'd try...

>Base it white
>add a thinned blue paint starting from the bottom of each armour plate up leaving a bit at the tops
>then use a thinned orange on the top bits
>add another thinned coat of blue to the bottom again
>edge highlight the orange with a lighter orange
>wash it with nuln oil
> final highlight on the blue bits with light blue
>final highlight on Orange
>paint accessories silver, wash with nuln then edge a bit light silver.

Might be a lot of steps but you wanna try and make the blue blend into the orange.
For the eyes my SM friend recommends painting/leaving the primed bit white and adding a glaze/wash rather than trying to paint it. I'd recommend Green.

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>>50188370
2/2

>>50188375

thanks man im saving this to try tomorrow!

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Dark Eldar thread for a change? Fine with me.

How would you go about converting a Drazhar model? I like the current one but I'm looking for a more modern take on him like his art.

>>50188370
>>50188382
Man I remember when these were cool to see and not posted every other thread.

Good work still.

Whats your whole army look like?

>>50188370
>>50188382
its
thiccc

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>>50188405
Well, I've only got those 2, the 2 Archons and my Kabalites done so far. Talos is on the WIP table. Next I might do a Venom or the scourges.

>>50188329
oh, duh, I'm dumb... I was sort of looking at them as drop pod equivalents, but forgot that they don't have the special rules that mean you can disembark the same turn you deep strike... damn.

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>>50188389

I'm not a pro painter or anything I jus get stuff to table top standard, this is my disclaimer incase it goes horribly! Best of luck though man.

Here's my table top models, the Llamean is a fuck up cuz I'm terrible at skin (I've since changed to painting eshen grey, washing carroburg crimson and then highlighting with a 25:75 white:grey mix)

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>>50188425
Archons

>>50188402
I'd say a less bulky looking version of the Incubi armor. Maybe even in the pose of that picture. All I know is that I want him posed during a flourishing strike or something.

Oh my god it's Dark Eldar General!

I got my first few 750 pts games in with five units of warriors in venoms. and Lhaem in a Venom. Then I have my unit of seven scourges with four Haywire Blaster.

Is khorne daemonkin fun to play with and against? Is it moderately competitive?

Rate my retarded Corsairs/DEldar idea. I have all of the models except the DE stuff.

1000/1000
Formation: Dark Artisan (395)
>Cronos (125 pts) - Spirit Probe
>Haemonculus (135 pts) - Flesh Gauntlet, Panacea Perverted, Webway Portal
>Talos (135 pts) - Ichor Injector, T-L Heat Lances

Corsair CAD (605)
>Prince (125 pts) - Jet Pack, Shadow Field, Void Sabre, Seeker of Forbidden Pleasures
>Malevolent Band (115 pts) - Jet Packs, Combat Drugs
>Reaver Band (95 pts) - Jet Packs, 2x Fusion Gun, 3x Brace of Pistols
>Reaver Band (85 pts) - Jet Packs, 2x Flamers, 3x Brace of Pistols
>Reaver Band (85 pts) - Jet Packs, 2x Flamers, 3x Brace of Pistols
>Hornet (100 pts) - 2x Pulse Laser, Kinetic Shroud, Void Burners

tl;dr Pinpoint-deep striking Distraction Carnifex + A bunch of deepstriking and/or just Jet Packing around dudes

>>50188402

If you're trying to recreate that pose, Lelith's model is already posed like that. I don't know if you could splice her model with an incubi model, make your own split Khlaives?

>>50188451
What happened in the games, were they any good?
>>50188427
Pretty sure a Valkyrie allows that.

>>50188130
They're assumed to, but if you want to model them separately that's cool but the familiar's model counts as not being there for game purposes.

>>50188464
malevolents are garbage
take another hornet

>>50188492

I like them so far tbqh, they're basically 10 extra wounds for the Prince and as long as you fly away from all of your other dudes the Ld thing doesn't get a chance to fuck you.

Also I wouldn't have anywhere to put the Prince then and it's not like he's super tough on his own without a bike. I've only played 3 games as Corsairs so far though so I could be retarded.

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>>50188441
>>50188466
I think I might use this as a base, while maybe cutting Shadowblade off of the rock so it's just him on foot. I'm sure I can kitbash some other DEldar bits to make the arms and swords too, and mold an Incubus helmet to be slightly different from the norm.

I have his old model but I want a new project just for the hell of it.

>>50188514
Pro-tip: Reaver bikes can double as Corsair Cloud Dancer bands which are fucking sweet.

>>50188525
I FUCKING love the Shadowblade model. I bought a recast one because it was 5 bucks for DnD and other tabletops. Came out great, but I used gesso to prime it and it got lumpy. I plan to strip it soon...

>>50188428
Sweet army, anon, ttq's as far as I go too so no need for a disclaimer when so many field unpainted armies. 10/10 would enjoy playing your army.

>>50188538
It is very dynamic and damn good. I'm just sad I didn't get to enjoy it much before the End Times shit. I have one for my Dark Elf army but I guess I'll grab another for Drazhar. The more I look at it the more I realize it'd probably work pretty well.

>>50188459
its cool and can be good in a non tournament environment.

>>50188464
Cronos is fine
Haemonculus I prefer scissor hands and the Nightmare doll
Talos I prefer chain flails

Do you face a lot of monstrous creatures/Riptides at 1000 points? because otherwise I feel the instant death is a little overkill on them and taking shred/rending is better. Just my personal choice though.

I'm looking to get into corsairs myself so I won't comment heavily on your choices there but It seems like you've got a nice balance of anti armour and anti Infantry, not sure i agree with the path your prince has took for only him and 1 unit to take drugs but I know points are tight.

>>50188176

CSM get three goddamn supplements, and Deldar can't get anything to support the Arenas. At least the Haemmy book is decent.

>>50188599
>CSM filled with supplements
>none of them are remotely good enough to satisfy raging Chaosfags' incessant bitching
>DE get literally one supplement
>Nearly no complaints

>>50188616
I don't play the actual game, I just collect/paint the stuff and keep up with the lore. Is the Haemonculus Covens book bad? I thought I heard it was pretty decent.

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>>50188551

Thanks man, my vehicles are much more blended than the troops, here's my tantalus part painted. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!!

>>50188638
No, it's the only competative DE thing going.

>>50188526

I like jet packs for fluff/looks reasons. But yeah I was planning on getting some eventually. The fluff I made up for my pirate elves is tl;dr there are multiple Princes within the fleet but the head dude is from Saim-Hann and left his Wildrider Clan because his older brother became Chief and this made him salty as fuck. So I wouldn't mind converting some bike guys to use.

>>50188574

A friend of mine fields a single Riptide which has been exceptionally annoying to kill in my experience. We usually only play 1000 or 1250 points. I will consider looking into shred/rending instead though. Basically the point of the Distraction Carnifex unit is to be specialized towards 1) not dying 2) killing hard targets/MCs and 3) killing elite-but-not-just-one-guy targets, in that order. I haven't playtested any DE stuff at all though so I could be doing it wrong, thanks for the pointers.

Regarding the Prince's paths, I considered a number of them and have tested different ones. I like the combat drugs but admittedly they are better when applied to more units; however, the problem with them is that I have found MSU generally works way better for Corsairs, but the drugs are a flat price and more efficient with larger units. They're one of the few paths that doesn't have any real drawbacks... even if only the Prince is taking them, it's basically free stuff. I also like Reaper of the Outer Dark for a similar reason.

My opinion is that the Corsairs Raiding Fleet Company Coterie benefits are where you really get your specialization from, and usually that's what I run. At 1000 points with an allied detachment/formation I figure it would be best to run a CAD instead to avoid the Baron tax, but otherwise the Coteries are generally more important.

I was going to write out a list of my experiences with the different Prince obsessions but it went over 2000 characters so fuck it.

>>50188638

It's got some good stuff but I wouldn't make an entire list out of it.

The Corpsetheif Formation is 5 Talos in a squad that grants an extra victory point when it wipes out a unit/strips 3 hull points off a super heavy and starts with scout.

>>50188638
It's ok, but it becomes a different playstyle completely.

>>50188657
>Tantalus
I'm jealous

>>50188662
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zkcl1hq4bg

>>50188599
I've just come to accept that DE are bad but there was one thing that annoyed me.
>if you want to play a kabal you have an archon to be your HQ and kabalites to be your troops
>wytch cults have succubus HQs and wytches to be their troops
>heamonculi coverns have heamonculi HQs and...
They made fucking Wracks elite, why?!

The suppliment fixed that but I wish the formations were not so restrictive.

>>50188657

Fuck I want one of these so badly

>>50188055
Well done

Also does anyone have the PDF for the hammy covens?

>>50188469
the valkyrie allows people to deep strike out of it. But if they scatter, they have to make dangerous terrain tests.

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Since this is a Deldar thread, I'll repost my mostly finished first SC! Box.

>Still have 1 more
>and scourges
>and a venom
>and a succubus
>and wyches

Guess I need more Venoms and scourges. Maybe I'll grab another SC box.

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>>50188705

My apologies if it's missing anything, I haven't looked at it in a while. I think I remember it being complete though.

>>50188268
It's transport capacity is 5 isn't it?

Where do you guys get your DE bits?

>Haywire Blasters
>Reaver helmeted heads
>Heat Lances

These are in demand everywhere and places are charging $10+ for 2 fucking heads. Fuck. Pls halp.

>>50188717

Ayyy I remember you from a few recent threads, anon. I really don't think you need 3 SC! boxes. Maybe I am wrong.

>tfw based Splinter Racks + Splinter Cannon Raider gunboat strategy is kill because of FAQs

>>50188726
I'm still pissed that GW won't own up to fucking up the Orbs of Despair with a typo.

>>50188732
12 for an arvus lighter, 6 for an aquilla lander.

>>50188668

Fair enough! The talos is Killy enough that it's going to rip wounds off a riptide anyway after the Haemy has swung at it, and you've always got the cronos to finish the job. I can't wait to get some Corsairs of my own going but I'll be going deldar heavy with them as allies rather than the other way.

>>50188700

I love the model but I'm struggling to find a place for it in game due to the weird capacity. I bought it originally thinking I could put a Grotesquery inside but multiple units prohibited because it's not super heavy. If the Duke was still around I'd definitely make it a super poison gun boat but alas, for now it's just a disintegrators platform then is H U G E

>>50188743

Don't get mad but I ordered 30 blasters from China, they're near perfect quality... people get mad when you say you order stuff from them though.

>>50188743
I bought two talos/chronos boxes and used the spare bits to convert my weapons.
The bits are in such redicilous high demand because everyone wants haywire scourges, it's the done thing with a DE army.

SHIT THAT HAS TO GO:
Haywire glance on 2+
Grav, period
Lords of War (super heavies and gargants)
Rerollable saves, at all, ever
Most rerollable anything
Vast majority of Ignores Cover options and weapons
Most models/options with 3++
Feel no Pain being so widely available

What else /tg/

>>50188802
This is what I did with my Scourges. Used the bits from the Haywire Blasters in those boxes and converted the guns. Bam. WYSIWYG scourges.

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>>50188033

Thinking of making my DELDAR army orange and purple with some white

What do you guys think? I was thinking something like this, but since I don't have any mandrakes I probably won't do any purple skin

>>50188800

Well it's not like GW is going to send you 30 Blasters if you tried to order from them anyway.

I can see Recasts in the case of buying weapons bits or things that are no longer made.

It's just whole models and things still in production that I find issue with.

>>50188780

It fits 16, right? A big unit of Grotesques with attached Haemy would fit. No Grotesquerie benefits though which is shitty.

I mostly like the model for the idea of completely obliterating large SM infantry units in 1 volley lel

>>50188751

Yeah that's understandable, I think Corsairs and DE compliment each other decently. I've been thinking a lot about how the synergies could work lately, and had some fun ideas.

>Jetpack infiltrating quasi-Rangers with Longrifles + a fuckton of Mandrakes
2muchinfiltration4u
>Reavers + Cloud Dancer heavy weapon platforms + various skimmers on each side (Ravagers + Corsair/CWE tanks) + troops in Venoms
we fast now, fuck saim-hann

etc. It's an interesting (and fluffy) Allies combo either way.

>>50188814
charging on T1 (GSC/Skyhammer)
Summoning units with free upgrades (GSC)
Elder jet bike rule, or at least reduction of scatter lasers to heavy 3 or str 5 (eldar)

>>50188833

Agreed, I mainly use it for extra, singular parts that if have to buy entire units for I. e. Scourge wings, Reaver heads, blasters

https://regimental-standard.com/2016/11/10/the-abhuman-and-you/

>Distinction should be made between Ogryns, and warriors from death worlds such at Catachan – failure to do so, may result in Catachan-fang-related injury.

>>50188743

Well, more raiders, Reavers, and warriors, can't hurt. Hell, the Reavers alone are $40, and the Raider is $38. Might as well grab some free warriors.

I prefer raiders to Venoms, but I understand why Venoms are better.

>>50188802
>>50188815

I'm actually debating grabbing 3 more boxes of scourges for the bits. That's gives me a full suite of weapons, and enough to flesh out 10 man squads of Scourges if I wanted. Hell, I could have a full set of Blasters, Heat Lances, AND Haywires on the table. I like the idea of DL scourges dancing around cover from 36" away, but that'll never work.

>>50188800

I'm not smart enough to figure out how to order from Z or I'd just do this. I generally don't want to order from China but for a tiny bit GW refuse to put in their boxes because they're fucking Jews I'll do it.

>>50188802

This isn't a bad idea either actually, thanks anon

>>50188856
overwatch should take an initative test, or maybe only be allowed if not firing in the last turn (but at full BS)

>>50188792

40mm or 60mm Magnus would've been badass. The fucking faggots who decided to make him titan sized should be fired and I bet they're the faglords who are churning out all these giant AoS centerpieces. Yeah they look cool but come on.

Force each of them to commute with a bunch of these centerpieces instead of just playing around with them never having them leave the building and see how they feel.

>>50188855

Yeah 16 capacity and the footprint of a bane blade, I've considered all sorts going in it, grotesques, d scythe wraith, Medusae for mass flamers, even a Eldar Deldar Harlequin mash up with a Troupe for a insanely tough deathstar

>>50188800

People don't get mad because you buy recasts, they get mad if you start acting like a fucking dipshit about it.

You're getting real close and I can tell you usually do act like a jackass, because you decided to throw in some comment about their near perfect quality even though nobody fucking asked.

>>50188891
>>50188891

If you could get to WHW Notts I'd happily give you some blasters, I ordered them thinking I'd make Trueborn but nah

>>50188908

Sorry man, won't happen again! Wasn't my intention to rustle any jimmies

>>50188814
Get rid of ATSKNF
Get rid of relentless on monsters and their ability to shoot more than one weapon
Remove overwatch from the game
Remove strength D
Make poison always a 4+ or worse, no 2+
Remove flesh bane
Remove zealot. Make it hatred or fearless, not both
Gut the psychic phase
Remove save modifiers
Remove summoning
Nerf drop pods

Anything else?

>>50188920

Plane tickets would be a few hundred dollars m8 lel

Why not make Blasterborn? Also why did you think you'd need 30 Blasterborn?

>>50188657
if I pulled my lazy finger out and took some photos I'd be doing well. In the middle of painting 53 of the TGGs, Jailbirds mostly, though I run Daemons most of the time. See your pic, that's what I miss most when I field Daemons, cool vehicles like yours, fair dues.

>>50188888

Protip Mr Quints, with a little plasticard and green stuff each Reaver jetbike box has enough parts to make 4 jetbikes! Get thrifty my man

>>50188895
Pretty much,

I am a huge Tzeentch fag but the second I saw how big this was my desire for it evaporated.

I do not want another model the 7+inch model.

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Does anyone ever have luck with their reavers?

Every game I've played my 6 have flown into a mad storm of fire then gone down to 2, usually the 2 with caltrops, then gotten into combat and if I'm lucky killed one model and died

>>50188303
>>50188135
To trigger fuckers like you

>>50188946

>quints
Oh shit. That's a first

Anyway, I'm fucking terrible with actual modeling shit.

>>50188960

First game I ran 2 squads of 3, they all died bar one who flat out moved to an objective in my deployment

second game I ran 3 squads of 3, 2 squads got blown off the board by ignores cover the third made it into combat and destroyed a basilisk

so far I'm seeing them as a cheap unit that absorbs fire but if it gets ignored wrecks armies, don't rely on them

>>50188960
Well I lost a knight to the hammer of wrath of 9-ish caltrops once.

>>50188960

Use them to screen important units. If they get into combat consider it a nice bonus.

>>50188960

You might have more luck with them if you run 6 of them in a ^ shape at maximum coherency to avoid blasts/keep some out of range or in a conga line, only the first one needs to reach base to base contact I believe in the charge

>>50188960
>>50188979

Reminder that guardian jet bikes have a 3+ save because FUCK YOU

>>50189005
>only the first one needs to reach base to base contact I believe in the charge
To get the charge yes, but why are you charging with Reavers if not to abuse caltrops? HoW requires the individual model to make BtB contact.

I wouldn't put a guy with caltrops in the front either unless I was confident he wasn't going to be shot any more than overwatch (against which all you can do is declare jink and hope they have no flamers).

Best units to summon with GSC?

>>50188929

Jimmy rustling is allowed.

>>50189006

Yeah that always made me go what the fuck GW

Let's make all marine bikes 2+ armor save and get to take autocannons for 10 points each

>>50189022
Situational.

>>50188951
>>50188895
I know the feeling.

I've got all the old, tiny resin greater daemons, bar khorne, and they look fine enough.bSize wise, if you compare them to a guardsman, they're about as big as a reasonably sized house.

Then comes the blood thirster, he's about three times as tall, four times as wide and three times as long. This guy throws the whole scale out of balance, he's less the type of monster you see in Tokyo wrestling Godzilla.
He can't even hit a marine standing up, he'd have to get down on all fours unless he can fight upside down like the worlds angriest break dancer.

There are only so many giant models with big price tags I have room for.

>>50189006
if you jink it's 3+

>>50189037

God no. Pls.

I find it hilarious that the most heavily armored DE unit moves around on WINGS.

>>50189174
Flamer Overwatch

>>50189022
Acolytes with all of the heavy weapons or Metamorphs.

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>>50189006
>>50189037
>running Reavers vs newfriend playing Salamanders
>he keeps trying to run his flamers at my Raider to flame the dudes inside
>eventually need to contest an objective so I reluctantly charge a flame squad with Reavers
>his face when I just start picking up models after his overwatch rolls
>mfw he didn't know Reavers didn't get the 3+ save bullshit Guardians are famous for
to be fair to him I was playing them alongside Cloud Dancers

>>50189006
Reminder that I have six Wyverns in an Emperor's Wrath formation for situations like this.

Thoughts on the new Haemotrope reactors? I want to park a squad of Plasma Kataphrons by them for some anti-horde fire power, but I don't know if the Plasma Cavaliers would work with them or not.

Best tactics for making use of Crisis suits? Deployment, cover usage, etc? I seem to get too close in the process of getting into plasma/fusion range and end up falling prey to Marine charges.

what is the best Xeno race Lore-wise ?

>>50188951
>>50188895
>>50189065

I love the huge models.

>>50189206
Be prepared for Plasma Syphon level arguments if you try to use them with anything not explicitly seen i nthe rulebook.

Ironically you can point to the most recent Plasma Syphon FAQ to explain why you should be allowed to use Calivers and so on with them.

>>50189219
Eldar not even Dark, I love the entire race as a whole and collect all four factions

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>>50189219
>best Xeno race

But seriously, under what metric?

>>50189231
same. I love how a lot of AoS armies have a huge centerpiece, I hope that happens with 40k as well.

>>50189041
Is there a unit thats good in all situations? Or units that you shouldnt bother with?

>>50189251
>I hope that happens with 40k as well

You're dumb. It's already happened, except instead of only having one, you need three.

Riptides, Stormsurges, Dthirsters, Knights, Dreadknights

>>50189247
purely Subjectively
>>50189243
i also like Eldar but Necron have a special place in my heart i know i will look like a fag but i hope the Necron and Eldar ally to defeat Chaos

>>50189272
>except instead of only having one, you need three
thats the problem.

>>50189243
>I love the entire race as a whole and collect all four factions

Mah nigga. I don't have an Harlies yet though. Also,
>not converting Exodites

>>50189243
Plastic Exodites when?
I want my fucking Dragon-riding laser elves.

>>50189219
Orks or Tau.

>>50189272
None of those are the same thing at all. Besides maybe the Bloodthirsters.

Nagash, Allariel, that's the sort of thing I mean.

TSons are really the first, with Magnus.

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>>50189294
>>50189309
>tfw Marinebabby when Exodites actually had rules

Their day will come. Soon. And it will be glorious.

>>50189345
I might just drop my DE then and there if they do come out. I love my sado-masochists, but I'll be damned if they get in the way of hippie-druid-dragon laser elves.

>>50189326

Logan sleigh. O'vesa.

I mean if your definition of centerpiece is "it has to be an HQ/lord" then sure, but that's just wrong.

>>50189345

Corsairs rules actually work pretty well for Exodites

>Uncivilized tribals, leadership collapses when they are losing
>Jet Packs = pteranodons
>Access to CWE tanks for big dinos
>CQC guys
>Have infiltrators and other stuff you'd expect out of forest laser dino elves

>>50189362

That would be amazing. I played WE all through WHFB, but they never had a translation into 40k. Instead I play [spoilers]Sisters[/spoiler] and recently Deldar.

>>50189413

40k WE are Tau.

>>50189423

In terms of long ranged shit, sure, but I would never start Tau. I entertained it back in 5th but never liked them enough to pull the trigger.

>>50189219
Orks

because green iz best

is it hard to make the models?

I have dyslexia / dyspraxia so my fine motor control is pretty poor - how hard is it to cut / glue the models without perfect control?

>>50189468
Not that hard, you might have trouble clearing mold lines and stuff though.

Painting is probably going to be hard for you though.

>>50189468
You'll probably have sprue nubs and mold lines if you don't take the extra time to get rid of them, but you can certainly assemble them and get them to a workable state without a ton of control. Some models (infantry like guardsmen) are easier than others (any MC) to get together.

Where can I get the tau painting guide from? I can't find it in the mega archives.

>>50189456
I'll assume for the moment that you only have four immolators. Where is the Canoness going?

Also, I'm assuming you're just going to have the Repentia sitting around derping for a turn before the survivors butcher whatever's in range.

>>50189468
I have a similar problem and never had too much trouble gluing models (can't paint worth a shit as a result, but that's a different story). You can use glues that are more forgiving than your vanilla superglue, and liberal use of a pin vice can help line things up too.

Hey, I'm out of the game since 5th ed (played Tyranids and IG) and maybe I'm going to start again.

I heard there's a new faction called Genestealer Cults. I understand they're a mix of IG units and better Genestealers, but I saw they even have Leman Russes and Chimeras? How are they different statwise, as they even got their "own packaging"?

>>50189456
Immolators have a transport capacity of six.

>>50189468
My motor control isn't that great either, but I can put most models together with relative ease. Its painting that really fucks me. I can't even paint straight lines without fucking up.

If its really a concern, play Space Marines or CSM, its real easy to put their basic troops and vehicles together. Eldar, Ork, and Tau models aren't really hard to do either.

I'd probably avoid AdMech or Dark Eldar, they have a lot of fiddly, spindly bits.

>>50189569
Oh I also forgot Nids. Nids are super easy to build.

>>50189455
Orks are a meme army. Stop shitposting.

>>50188469
>What happened in the games, were they any good?

I played against Imperial Guard and Blood Angels.

Against guard I was really spread out but was able to escort my scourges to the Leman Russ three Venoms while the others went for Objectives.

Blood angels were a bit different since I just tried to fan out as mucch as I could and just kept rotating on the important objective and won by points despite his guys chewing through a ton of warriors.

>>50189456

Bad, but I'm Here to help.

You have 10 sisters with 6 cap transport, which is wasting a lot of points. Drop them down to 5 (3 bolters, 2 Special), drop the loud Hailers, and change the HF turret to a MM.

Make:
BSS squads 5 with flamer, HFlamer, Combi, TLMMolator with dozer.

Make the Repentia a squad of 8 in a Rhino

Change the Rets to Heavy Flamers or Heavy Bolters if you can.

Add a Priest with Litanies, and an Evicerator to your Canoness. That leaves you with 128 points to play with.

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>>50189682
Kill yourself child

>>50189219
Orkz, because Squats are not Xenos.

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Did you guys ever win a game that brushed you the wrong way? Was the price of victory being as mad as pic related? Tell the Punished Wasp less he brings out of its prison and comes for you.

>>50189806
>breaks
Fixed.

How reliable are Crisis Suits for anti Air against Space Marine fliers?

New CSM Codex when?

>>50189834
never

last chance coming soon

holy shit, thank you anon. I've been looking for Traitor's Hate for forever.

is Dark Angel's Interromancy good against Tau Suits?

I think I remember hearing they have bad leadership and having some quick units that could mess with them after a good mind worm could be a fun way to take down Crisis, Broadside and maybe drones.

>>50189948
We have Ld 8. I'm not familiar with Interromancy, but if the suit is away from an Ethereal and isn't a 'vre or higher, then something that works against leadership would work well. Within an Ethereal's leadership bubble, though, the suit uses Ld 10, period, no exceptions unless you target the Ethereal instead.

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>>50189977
I am thinking two level 2 librarians trying on the table would be fun and then if my bikes could mess with them better in close combat

>>50190016
Nasty. Yeah, that'd eat us alive, honestly. We don't have psyker defense. The only one there that wouldn't be an instant killer is Aversion and maybe Righteous Repugnance.

>>50189716
Thanks, I'll do some changes.

>>50189806

Lately, I've been feeling sad when I win. My friend is not very good, but he doesn't know he's not very good. He's also a turbo sperg, so I can't tell him he's not very good.

He plays Eldar, but he plays old eldar. He has a lot of non-spider aspect warriors, ie banshees, scorpions, dragons, DAs, and a set of Hawks with Grav tanks to go with them. As far as "cheese" he has a single unit of metal wraith guard and a single wraith lord. In total, he's got like 3000 points without a single jet bike.

>>50190075
What do you play?

Also that sounds like a fun army.

>>50190075
>My friend is not very good, but he doesn't know he's not very good.
Honestly that's the best check for playing Eldar.

So this game should not be played competitively, huh?

>>50190114
Ideally, no. It's best for casual or narrative games.

>>50190052
Cool I will think about including some psykers then. Usually I roll them for Divination but Interromancy has worked great against my SW friend and even Dark Eldar to an extent.

>Righteous Repugnance.
Ideally I am getting that on some black knights that have +1S and Rending with3 base attacks

>Aversion
If it wasn't for the Maelstrom of Misery then Aversion would be my least favorite power, still its only one warp charge and I am sure there is something i can use it on.

Do markerlights help snap shots?

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>>50190069

No problem. I meant to also note that the Priest and Canoness chill with the Repentia. Keep in mind, they will die in droves because they have to sit after leaving.

I posted this last thread, but here's my typical 1000 points that I've used since forever.

>>50190086

Sisters, obviously.

Part of his army was actually mine a long time ago, and I forgot to mention rangers. He loves rangers.

The army is fun, sure, though admittedly I get salty when his guardians annihilate my Sisters with a rule we used to have, but there's nothing I can do about that. Still, he bitches about exorcists, bitches about Doms, bitches about Celestine, ect, yet leaves his units standing in an open fire lane like it's my fault.

6th ed Chaos Marines, Dark Apostle.

"May take items from the Ranged Weapons, Chaos Rewards
(except daemonic steeds) and/ or Chaos Artefacts sections of
the wargear list."

None of this shit has point costs on it. Can I just take what I want?

>>50190131
Markerlights bring snap shots back up to BS2, which is not incredible but is good enough.

Somehow I missed that Righteous Repugnance was for friendly models, but yeah, you should be fine regardless of what power comes out, honestly. Interromancy seems not just good, but Good.

>>50190075
That might be for the best that he's left in the dark.

>>50190164
FUCK
Found 'em

>>50190169
All my Dark Angels have Grim Resolve so unless they are Jinking they over watch at BS2 aswell

Good enough I should fit in a third librarian at 1500 points.

>>50190164
>None of this shit has point costs on it.

Look harder you stupid faggot.

>>50190228
>Good enough I should fit in a third librarian at 1500 points?*

I would just shave down a tac squad and combine some black knights into a smaller squad to make it fit.

>>50190242
Nah you want more bodies on the field still, two Librarians are more than enough when they have no competition.

>>50188130
why the fuck did the word senpai turn into senpaitachi

>>50190545
oh jesus you cant say f a m

>>50190556
It also turns t b h into desu

>>50190589

fucking savage

whats with the newfags today

>>50190645
This is what happens when you have a Xeno friendly thread, Imperial Citizen.

These disgusting heretics just sprout up and start spreading lies and rumors leaving a Commissar with a very busy day.

>>50190149
offer to play with army swap

>>50190645

Can you cut it out with the negative waves. They are newfriends.

>>50190660
Says the....Genestealer Cultist...

>>50190545
Never seen Senpaitachi, what did you say?

Emperor's Champion - [Slayer of Champions, Fearless, Armour of Faith )in profile, Black Sword]

Crusader Squad - [10 Marines/Bolters + 10 Scouts/Shotguns]

Tactical Squad - [9 Marines/Bolters + Vet Sgt/Storm Bolter + powersword]

What is this shit? Do people think this is supposed to be fun to play against?

>>50190735

I agree, that guy was being such a double negative nancy.

>>50190807 (you)

>>50190692
He's too full of himself and would blame my former experience with Eldar. I've tried. He's a friend, just a sperg.

Anyway,

Just going through my Sisters inventory and coming up ideas.

With my 7 tanks (2 Exo, 5 Immo), my armor column comes out to be 1215 points.

Canoness
Evicerator, Combi-Plas
Mantle, Rosarius

Command Squad
[Combi-Plas, Flamer] x4
Hospitaller
Immolator - TLMM, Dozer

Battle Sister x5
Heavy Flamer, Flamer
Immolator - TLMM, Dozer

Battle Sisters x5
Heavy Flamer, Flamer
Immolator - TLMM, Dozer

Dominions x5
Melta x4
Immolator - TLMM, Dozer

Dominions x5
Melta x4
Immolator - TLMM, Dozer

Exorcist
Exorcist

That's it for tanks, but I have plenty of bodies, including 25 bolter bodies and Seraphim with Celestine. Actually, enough for 2 units of 7 Seraphim with hand flamers. I can add 10 rets with 4 HB and Simulacrum.

I could totally run a blob of 20. How well would that go, I wonder?

>>50190895
Are Penitents actully any good, SoB Anon?

>>50189345
I never knew the Exodites existed and I am so fucking hard right now

>>50190940
What else don't you know about, Anon? Questions?

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>>50189345

I hope they bring back Exodite Knights.

>>50190947
A lot, I'm fairly new to 40k any really only know about the major armies and even then not much.

Exodies get a codex before sisters update

>>50190927

Penitents? I was talking about a blob of 20 Battle Sisters.

But what do you mean by Penitents?

Penitent Engines are really fragile and suffer from Should-be-MCs syndrome as an Open topped Walker. However, they hurt in combat.

Repentia are made of glass and don't have a delivery system, which is a shame. However, with support, they can put out HUGE amount of S6 Ap2 attacks.

I'd like some suggestions for a second army. I currently play orks and am looking for something that's really the opposite; low model count, psykers, etc.

>>50190968
Penitent Engines, I'd have said Repentias if I meant them. Thanks!

>>50190967
Come on now, SoB update sometime from December to May.

>>50190966
Anything you particularily like so far, besides Exodites?

I'm looking for something easy and Tau to model and paint. any thing I should look at / will need, other than a colour wheel?

>>50190987
The Tau, which is the army I plan on starting

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>>50190996
Oh boy here we go.

>>50190978

No problem. I wish I had enough to run the 9 PE list. If I wasn't a total retard about getting China, I probably would.

>>50190976
>Low model count
>Psykers
Grey Knights. Or 30k TS when their rules come out.

>>50190976

GK or Imperial Knights imo battle-senpai

>>50191054
I had a feeling gk was the answer. Thanks anon.

>>50190976
CSM Black Legion, using only the Cabal formation

Your army can consist entirely of sorcerers.

>>50191092
That sounds interesting. I'll take a look.

>>50191108
Because they are all independent characters, you can tarball them together into a single unit if you wanted

and then the new 75 point super cheese unit will destroy your entire army in a single turn with it's bullshit anti-psychic powers and free AP2

>>50191161
>makes a retarded gimmick army composed entirely of squishy psykers
>doesn't want to get rickrolled by SoS

I understand that GW may be casting daemonettes of Slaanesh as a "made to order" thing. The old daemonette models are vastly superior and I want some. How do I place one of these orders, and will it punch me in the wallet to do so?

>>50191216
you just buy them from the GW website when they start letting you. it will probably be like 30$ a squad, or so.

>>50191216
once they are available you order them on the GW website like you would for any other product

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>>50191216
GW web store on the 19th.
Yes.

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>>50191216

That's the rumor, as well as some other Emperor's Children models.
I want some too.
Preorders will supposedly go up on the 19th and last for an indefinite but presumably short amount of time.
It will probably punch you in the wallet less than eBay. I'm expecting $40+/squad.

>>50188218
THIN YOUR PAINTS

>bought canoness nib blister on ebay
>open it and realize there are only right arms

just fuck my sister up

>>50191231
>>50191233
>>50191239
>>50191249
Thanks guys! All I have to do now is ensure that frothing neckbeards don't try to run off with my models when I get them.

>>50191323
Honestly not that expensive, last batch of Made to Order were very nicely priced.

What are the five most ridiculous units in 40k?

-Riptides
-Wraithknights
-Scatterbikes
-Knights
-Thunderwolf
Is that accurate?

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>>50191359
And yet miners in trucks with shitty mining equipment and black market autoguns can kill all of them.

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Post battle report stories!

>>50191369
Whoops, forgot acolytes

>>50191385
ran over a dreadnought with my exalted seeker chariot last game, game before that DP'd a death company dread with 2 exalted seeker chariots after he failed the charge against my keeper of secrets (she also failed a charge through terrain by coincidence)

>>50191386
>>50191369
>8pts a model

>>50191417
What are you trying to imply?

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>>50191413
Praise the Emperor

>>50191424
they're the single best unit GW has ever released

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>>50191413

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>>50191445

>>50191092
1800 points with 9 dudes on bikes. I'm going to see if i can proxy this to try it out just to see how awesome/terrible it could be.

>>50191445
It's superb and everything of course but it's a bit silly to have on something that's going to be going out in war and getting the shit shot out of it.

>>50191333
I presume it will be in metal? Or have they updated to plastic?

I've looked at guides and painting metal models seems pretty straightforward. Any tips?

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>>50191452

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>>50191459
The Emperor protects.

>>50191471
And it's bothering me that the murals don't seem to have anything in common

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>>50191461
>>50191459
It's not for the Imperium. I could see them doing this easily.

>>50191460
They'll be metal, wait 24 hours after priming to paint and always seal your models after you finish.

>>50191475

Yeah is it just me or does it just look fucking overdone and busy

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>>50191477

>>50191359

Scatterbikes and Knights are only ridiculous due to their rules. Their concept and models are perfectly fine and fitting the setting.

TWC, Riptides, and WKs are stupid as fuck in all ways. Riptides aren't justified by Crisis Suits when Barracudas literally did the same job, but in proper pre-6E Tau doctrine.

>>50191456
if you tarball them into one you can can stack like every psychic buff and still have warpcharges left over

be careful with marks of chaos though. You can't mix marks.

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>>50191480
Come on man.

>>50191359

Stormsurge, Wraithknight, Dreadknight, Thunderwolf Cavalry, Logan Grimnar Stormrider

>>50191359
Wulfen

>>50191359
Nobz in a 'Naught

>>50191538
I mean technically, you're right. Just a different kind of ridiculous.

>>50191553

More like ridiculous...ly OP

>>50191480
You could say it looks baroque

>>50191538
Well, uh, I can't say you're wrong?

How do you play Gray Knights?

Usually when I read through a Codex I have a pretty good idea, right away, how the units are supposed to work together and what options and weapons do what. I read the GK Codex earlier and I have no fucking idea how one makes a competent (not necessarly cheesey, but not shit) GK army.

Someone halp pls, I am seriously considering them as a second army because of reasons

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Add some height onto this guy and you've got a Space Marine.

>>50191660

Baby carriers, terminators, and interceptors.

>>50191691
Too dispraportionate.

>>50191702
You think so? Wider chest, maybe?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but the kasrkin and the stormtroopers became the Millitarum Tempestus after the whole re-branding/naming thing right?

Also on that note, are they any good?

>>50191413
Nice freehand, but it basically ends up lookinf like dazzle camo. Meh.

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>>50191712
works for the murder mimes well enough

>>50191710
No, Kasrkin and other stormtroopers are specifically Special Forces for certain IG forces, like Kasrkin are all Cadian. Tempestus guys are seperate from all that and come from everywhere and are trained by the Schola Progenium.

>>50191484
>>50191477
>>50191461
>>50191452
>>50191445
>>50191413
Holy shit. How? I can barely highlight. How is someone able to achieve this level of detail on such a small scale?

>>50191707
No, smaller arms. That sort of build he has is indicative of pure 'bodybuilding' and/or steroids, which is unhealthy compared to a slimmer build, iirc.

I'm tired, so could be somewhat off, but yeah.

Big muscles =/= healthy. Sure, it's better than being fat, but poorly proportioned means there's something wrong usually.

>>50191733
Mate, Warlord Titans are 2 1/2 feet tall.

>>50191733
same with anything; years of practice, the right tools, and lots of time

a bit of air brushing, layer, washing, medium, and maybe some weathering powders

>>50191733
a magnifying glass/steady hand works wonders. just like how people draw shit on grains of rice.

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>>50191760
Space Marines are pumped full of all kinds of shit, they probably do look something like that.

>>50191729
Thank you for clearing that up for me.

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what dis

I know it's BOLS but more Sisters news.

Today’s News

Today industry insiders tell BoLS today more of the Sisters of Battle line of minis themselves:

Adepta Sororita are real and returning as full fledged faction.

Look for a standard sized new line:

Codex
3 Infantry Boxes
2 Vehicle Boxes
3 clampacks

Further details on the kits:

Standard infantry dual build kit
Elite infantry dual built kit
Walker kit
Leader clampack (Canoness)
Standardbearer clampack
Look for all of this in January, with some minor teaser releases very late 2016.

www belloflostsouls net/2016/11/40k-rumors-sororita-mini-news-keeps-coming

>>50191700
Add librarians and this list is complete.

Psycannons on the terminators, incinerators on the interceptors, and both the heavy versions on the dreadknight.

2 Librarians, 2 squads of termies, 2 or more knights and as many 5 man interceptor squads as possible

>>50191808
If GW does it I hope they sell well for as much waiting/crying people have done

>>50191828
If GSC is any indication of how things will go, they'll sell very well.

>>50191799
Looks like a new tiger shark.

>>50189806

Well, I did feel a bit bad about winning a game recently. It was my Orks vs his Tallyband Nurgle Daemons. Early on it went badly for me; his GUO ate my Bikers (along with the Warboss) and my Tankbustas on my left flank. My Trukkboyz accomplished little despite both charging a single squad. Then my MANZ got bogged down having to take THREE GODDAMN LEADERSHIP TESTS every turn (Fear, Tallyband, and various Psychic powers. Fun fact: Had a MANZ Boss Nob at leadership 1 by the end of the game thanks to Bloodstone I think its called).

Anyway, things are looking grim. We're playing the Relic and one of his squads has dragged it off the top of its building and is slowly hauling it behind his lines. I have no infantry nearby on the final turn and it looks hopeless. Then I see I have one of the Boyz' Trukks 12" from the Relic. The Trukk has a Ram, and the only stuff in the way are Nurgle daemons, none of whom have enough Strength to penetrate the Trukk.

So I tank-shock my way through two squads to finish next to the Relic. The Trukk has Objective Secured thanks to being a dedicated transport for a troops choice in a CAD. His Daemons don't have Obj Sec because they're a Tallyband. The Trukk can claim the Relic despite it being held by the Daemon unit, because of Obj Sec.

So I won, but it felt super-gamey. We had a good laugh afterwards though, fluffing it as the Orks zooming by, snatching the Relic and accelerating off, middle fingers raised at the stunned Daemons.

>>50191808

If this is true, my tax money will be spent before I get it. I'm already sitting on 2000 points, but I've been waiting 12 years for this to happen.

>>50191884
We'll likely know by the end of December, another leak said Canoness out at the very end of December and this one says teaser release at the end of 2016.

>>50191892

Yea.

Man, I've been burned so many times in the past, but I can't help but feel excited.

>>50191729
Storm Troopers are Tempestus. Kasrkin are not

>>50191899
Im not even a sisters player, or hell, even fan, but i hope you arent burned this time man. You guys have waited far, far too long.

>>50191808
I get a sense of Duke Nukem Forever about sisters

>>50191883
if he was running the tallyband in the incursion then he'd had corruption which lets him control objs until someone comes to purify them and i believe allows him to out do obj secured if he's on the objective.

>>50191917
>I get a sense of Duke Nukem Forever about sisters

>He says after Genestealer Cults came back.

Squats back by 2020.

>>50191700
>>50191816

I see, that is sort of close to what I was thinking. Thanks anons.

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Hey guys, I'm bored, learning JavaFX, and a software guy. Would any of you be interested in a little dice roller program or weapons stats program?

Give me your wildest dreams or conveniences and I'll try to make them come true

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>>50189209
>but I don't know if the Plasma Cavaliers would work with them or not
they will and it will be brutal.

>>50191952
>ittle dice roller program

No thanks. What would your weapons stats program do?

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>>50189219
Objectively speaking _Orks_

>>50191911

Thanks, man.

No lie though, I might be spending a grand on this shit, including a collector's edition because I'm getting the best in-print version I can.

>>50191959
User inputs stats (or eventually Models/Weapons/range), target, gets back exact statistics. I'd like to include most of the more intricate rules (AP1/2 vs vehicles, rending wounds, melta, armourbane, blah blah). If I can make sense of the battlescribe data I could potentially include how effective a model/weapon is versus a unit on a point basis. I think it'd be fun cause I could start extremely simple and end up extremely complex.

Dice roller would be both a real-use thing optimized for convenience (stuff like cntrl+click to delete a die, click to reroll, etc). I could eventually add statistics to it as well (how far off you were from the average dice roll), but that's kinda eh

>>50191952
how about charging death company dreadnought with bloodclaws vs keeper of secrets with 4+ feel no pain with eternal blade and aetherblade?

>>50191940
i need to stop being so negative, i'm about to get a really good job soon

i believe that could've happened in a recent game but the dread failed the charge, he was promptly raped by exalted chariots for his trouble

>>50192000
I always feel like you get a less randomised chance with dice rollers and prefer real dice. But the other one sounds good to me.

>>50192011
i'll make it work

How can we fix the rampant low AP problem to make Marines feel like Marines again?

I'm not even a Marine player, but Marines are supposed to be super tough, and terminators are supposed to be walking tanks, more or less.

>>50192104
stop playing 1850 and it gets better

also decline games against waacfags

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>>50191954
>Plasma weapons gains the Blast special rule
mfw i have 10-man squads armed with 9 plasmaguns

>>50191954
>War Convocation
>free upgrades and plasma weapons everywhere
>nothing gets hot
>includes a Fortification

Oh baby

>>50192104

NO DON'T TAKE AWAY MY MARINE HORDE ARMY

>>50191386
Whip/Claw Metamorphs>Acolytes

>>50192191

I don't want to. I love the idea of boots on the ground Marines, but you can't because they die without a transport. That shouldn't be the case.

>>50191954

No they won't

The only plasma weaponry that works is the stuff in the rule book

If otherwise then Exocrines might finally get to have some fun.

>>50192026
You feel less randomised because real dice are (mostly) unbalanced and will give bias result. Pretty sure all opaque dice on the market are unbalance, there're no way to check for air bubble, hole, or mix material inside them. Even a perfectly balanced dice will become unbalaned after a few playing sessions (chip edge, damaged surface...)

A proper dice roll program will give the fairest result.

Tho I too prefer real dice, because all my games are friendly and non-serious.

>>50192153
>put a plasma obliterator in the fortification slot
>have the reactor(s) in separate detachments.

>>50192310
I like wooden dice because they feel nice in the hand and have style

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>>50192150

>>50191917
>allows him to out do obj secured if he's on the objective.
Incorrect.

>>50192310
If you ever want to check how balanced your dice are just do the salt water technique.

>add enough salt to warm water so the dice just barely float
>spin/flick the dice
>if it always has the same side up, it's unbalanced.

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I hope 8th is good. I hope Orks get a good codex, by someone passionate who gets their theme.

>>50192402
What I want is a fortification formation of the reactors, a VSG and 0-1 promethium pipes so I can keep the VSG for my WarConvo and boost my plascals at the same time.

>>50192463
Pray that Orks aren't one of the first 8th Codices. That way they can actually be relevant for a while.

I'm playing 2 games tomorrow and need you to help me cheat on the test guys. I play Dark eldar.

game 1: Genestealer cult, I know they're gonna deploy up real close and charge turn 1 so I'm gonna screen my vehicles with Reavers and go second, anything else I can do?

game 2: Blood Angels, he's running Golden Host and a bunch of death watch with a chaplain. I know the Host deepstrike and charge but otherwise I'm at a loss.

>>50192150
>2 reactors
>prometheum line
>void shield generator
>plasma gun and flamer squads
>plasmas get blast
>flamers get torrent
>all under AV12 fields that get to re-roll recharging rolls

>>50192307
>no 6 blasts exocrine

why must you destroy my dreams.

>>50192463

What IS the Ork theme though? And I'm saying this as an Ork player since 2007; what exactly is our theme?

For a while I thought it was fielding big units, but that doesn't quite mesh with, well, everything in the codex that isn't Boyz.

Is it meant to be hordes of cheap shit? I could get behind that, but is the game ready for 20 point MANZ?

Is it meant to be high risk high reward wackiness? Feels like that strays too much into DE territory.

Ramshackle random? Yeah, because we've fucking loved random haven't we.

>>50192857
It -should- be potentially a lot of things, it would be if someone competent wrote the codex.

The Ork 'theme' is cheap and unreliable, but you can pay to remove one or both of those downsides and still have a rewarding playstyle.

- Hordes of Boyz
- Armoured Krumpany (trukks and wagons)
- 1st Krumpany (nobz and meganobz)
- Speed Freeks (bikes, buggies, flyers)

Or any combination thereof.

>>50192857
Pretty much this
>>50192879
Each of the clans pretty much have a different playstyle. Goffs are footslogging boyz, Evil Sunz are speed freaks, etc...

Truth be told though, the current theme for Orks that GW puts out is "Fuck Orks".

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Made this list to face genestealer cult tomorrow, it's deathwatch plus some muhreens to provide support and teleport beacons. Could you guys give me feedback in this since it's my first time with deathwatch?