MTG:Modern General

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Is u/r tutelage at least decent is modern? Or do I just lose to every tier1 deck?

>>50177198
You lose to tier 2 decks

tooth and nail or bushwacker zoo?

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SPLINTER TWIN UNBAN WHEN!?

>>50176927
Thinking about building a mono-u stomp deck. Is leather back baloth worth adding to the deck? A vanilla 4/5 seems alright, and rancor can make it pretty good

>>50177678
*Mono-g stompy deck

>>50177688
leatherneck baloth is a x4 in that deck
a 4/5 that only dies to path is great

>>50177708
and terminate and abrupt decay and murderous cut and doom blade and go for the throat and

>>50177758
Sweet. I watched a video on it (I think TCC) that didn't have it in its list. Wanted to make sure that I wasn't being a retard for putting in a bolt proof creature in.

>>50177758
>7 new posts
well, at least you have vines

>>50177229
Dang

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>>50177619
Never. Get used to it.

.... I did.

>tfw too poor to play modern
What is your favorite budget deck lads?

how's BW Eldrazi Processor

>>50178478
it's shit senpai

Trump will unban twin FACT

>>50178669
So Trump is going to make modern great again?

>>50178676
>modern
No, he's going to destroy the NWO and make MAGIC great again
Trump/Garfield 2016

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>>50178417
skred of course

>>50178504
damn

well is there anything other than bant eldrazi and eldrazi taxes

>>50179281
there might be something to BR

>>50178417

Mono green stompy should automatically be /the/ gateway budget deck for any person who wants to play modern

>Quick efficient beaters that are resillient to removal
>Teaches fundamentals of proper sequencing and combat math
>Ability to pull wins out of nowhere as early as turn 3
>Mostly only 2 rares in the MB, Scavenging Ooze and Avatar of the Resolute

are there any worthwhile multicolor decks that run enough basics that they don't get super hosed by blood moon

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send help

>>50180105
most decks can play around blood mood for the most part if they have a lot of fetches, but I don't think that many 3 color decks run more than like 5 or 6 basics

>>50180214
What does this do?

>>50180456
make goblin tokens I guess but it hasn't been going well
it's a mma draft if that wasn't clear

>>50180466
Oh! If that's draft it's fine
I thought you were retarded and playing that in constructed

>>50180481
it's going about as well as if I were playing it in constructed. I heard that you can draft storm in mma so I tried forcing it but either I was lied to or I suck at drafting or I was getting cut cause this deck is a pile.

>>50180509
You needed more rituals

>>50180515
I didn't see any. I was probably getting cut desu, but I wanted to force the deck cause storm is fun

>>50180539
Well, hopefully you can do better in the future desu

Gonna play my first modern night tomorrow, running 8 whack goblins, though not a full sideboard because I don't know what the meta is like at my LGS nor did I have the time or money to really flesh the sideboard out.

I dunno if I want to run fetches to help thin the deck a bit.

>>50180629
there's really no reason to run fetches for thinning since the effect is so marginal, you'll lose more games to the life loss from fetching than you'll win by lowering your chance to draw a land by 0.01%
for the sideboard, just jam a bunch of relic of progenitus and smelts and call it a day. blood moons if you have them.

I'll try again, is RG land destruction aka Ponza doing good right now? I've been starting ad nauseum but idk if I wanna finish that anymore.

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Collected Company in mono meme stompy, yes or no? Every creature in that deck costs less than 3 CMC unless you tech something like a Surrak or two.

>>50180783
I prefer Harmonize personally, but either works, it depends on your build and meta.

>>50180783

For traditional builds, not really. You really want to end the game at turn 4-5 with rancors and Aspect of Hydras than to cast CoCo. Its better in that weird hasty forcemage offshoot featuring Uktabi Drake, Groundbreaker

>>50177229
False

>>50180629
What's your sideboard look like?
For a dollar you can get 2 Tormods and a playset of Smash to Smithereens (or goblins that kill artifacts, they're common too)

>>50179814
>bolt
>IoK/Thoughtseize
>Hangarback Walker and Kalitas
>on top of Eldrazi

sign me up

>>50178958
If you still think 20 mountauns for 4 bucks each is budget then I have news for you

>>50181247
yowza, didn't see that they went up
still cheaper than most every tier 1/2 deck though

>>50181338

Not a good idea to ride the wave. Skred Red is the new meme deck because of the current GP. Always steer clear of the hype.

Personally, play another fringe budget deck, Mono White Knights and Takin' Turns come to mind

>>50178417
Play bogles
Or 8whack
Or budget infect with the intention of upgrading it
Or budget burn
Or budget affinity
Or any decks budget variant

Valakut is pretty cheap

>>50180738
Probably not. It's hard to play LD in Modern because while you're blowing up their lands they're beating you down with cheap creatures.

>>50180783

Most of your dudes don't have ETB effects so no I wouldn't

>>50181203
what is the hangarback doing there

Valakut reclaimed / splendid valakut or whatever, looks pretty sick for a budgetish build. Anyone play it?

Should I try building lantern without mox opal? Or should I just invest in it since it's an affinity staple?

>>50181867
Valakut can be expensive but I can confirm the budget list is closest to the real deal out of any budget version of a competitive modern deck

Probably because it doesn't rely on staples like goyf or snappy

>>50182989
Well i mean you could probably get full fledged Valakut for 400 dollars

>>50178417
8 whack because I'm a dirty meme goblin

>>50182933
It's very valuable to both decks. You'll miss a lot of fast hands without it.

>>50182989
Does budget here mean not-Breach version? That's the only card I see that varies that also greatly changes price.

>>50183175
Basically titanshift not titanbreach

>>50177619
>he wants to interact and not just race with rocket cars past each other
Get with the times grandpa.

>>50183293

>Not playing a Prison strategy with Enchantress or Lantern Control

Your rocket cars are no match for my fort of pillows! I hope you're ready to got Time EVERY GAME! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>50182426
I'm gonna try and build that version from GP Dallas that had the madcap combo maindeck. It seems like an awesome way to incidentally beat your bad matchups, like Burn and affinity. And if you play against Jund or whatever its just like lol 4 mana 8/8 under blood moon.

>>50183345

>enchantress

thanks for giving all my infect creatures flash.

>>50181515
>Mono White Knights
I've just been lurking about Modern threads without actually having entered the format, and if Cavern of Souls drops in price this deck looks right up my alley and fun as fuck

>>50183421
>if Cavern of Souls drops in price

I'd love that to happen, but I don't think it's ever going to unless they reprint it at a lower rarity, or reprint it into the dirt over several sets. It's a staple in a ton of decks.

>>50178417
UTron is my favorite tron deck even if it's difficult to pilot and not great against burn
Mono-white versions of hatebears/dnt can also run you under 300

>>50183782
Utron is just not great in any aggro meta. Errr, any tron is not good in an aggro meta. But they're fun!

>>50183809
It's true
At least though with GRTron you can board in pyroclasm effects to help you out a bit. There just any good cards that Mono blue has access to as sideboard against aggro. In a lot of situations yo're just left slumming it with dragon's claw or maybe now filigree familiar
Propaganda reprint when

>>50178417
I'm playing a mono red burn deck right now pretty fun and get to feel smug when I beat a expensive deck.

>>50183782
>difficult to pilot
It really isn't. It's just bad

>>50184389

It is difficult to play correctly by Modern's standards, which is generally limited to the super tough decisions like "do I play the Hierarch... or the Glistner elf first turn...?! SO DIFFICULT!"

Or you could be playing burn which an actual special needs person won with at a tournament, thanks to their mom.

>>50184669
You're talking about this guy whose mom holds the cards for him right? What's his name? I think I watched he beat a g/u emerge once.

>>50183670
Yeah, the reprint part was sort of implied. I'd love to break into a non-rotating format that isn't pauper, but on the current budget that I'm running that just isn't feasible.

Cavern of Souls would be the only card I'd need to get into modern, though. Tribal is my favourite type of deck across all formats.

>>50184739
Brandon Burton. He's a super cool guy, and no he's not special needs. He just has his mom hold his cards for him, a table judge watches them to make sure there's no communication other than brandon telling her which cards to play. Dude is super good at the game.

>>50184876

Right, but what I'm saying is it would have to be reprinted into the DIRT, like no other card has ever been reprinted before. Like, for example, Blood moon is still a $40 card and it was reprinted in The Dark, in Chronicles, in 8th Edition, in 9th Edition, and in Modern Masters. This was all at rare. There should theoretically be millions of these fucking cards just out and about, but it still commands a high price because everyone knows you HAVE to have it for a deck.

Cavern of Souls has only been printed once, in Avacyn Restored. But people know it's a powerful effect for tribe strategies, so I don't see the price lowering even with a reprint.

>>50185343
Not him but I'm interested in getting some whit deck going and I like knights. I'm an ultra budget guy though. Can I play without muh caverns or will it suffer too much?

I stumbled across 3 copies of Noble Hierarch for 35 dollars each, should I buy? I want to make a infect deck but don't have any other staple for it.

>>50185467
Sure, infect is cheap as shit. I helped a friend make a deck for like 20 bucks and while it's not top tier he can still pull out wins in turn 3 with is fucking depressing.

>>50185536

T3 wins are glistener (cheap as fuck) and common pumps. Ultra budget infect is totally doable but it's not super competitive without inkmoth which allows them really easy incrementing damage, evasion, dodges sorcery speed removal (Lili) etc

>>50185578
I'm actually worried about fetches. How much of a necessity it is?

>>50182847
just a value creature I suppose? I checked on mtggoldfish for B/R Eldrazi and both decklists I found ran Hangarback

>>50185343
>everyone knows you HAVE to have it for a deck.
This is basically what keeps me out of constructed

>>50185455
it's not like you NEED to have them unless your local meta is very heavy on counterspells

>>50185629
Mono green infect is a solid option for a budget, so fetches aren't the most critical part of the deck. Just replace the blighted agents with additional protection spells and it's pretty solid
Inkmoth nexus is far and away the most important part of the landbase

>>50185632
there is no reason for it being there, i assume those guys were just playtesting

>>50185750
seems to me like a good way for a colorless heavy deck to get some more resiliency to spot removal, especially in RB

>>50185455

I'd say an ability to blink, regenerate, or give indestructible to all your creatures to avoid mass removal would be more useful, unless you have a particularly counterspell heavy meta.

>>50185467

Absolutely. But check the card condition and examine for authenticity

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planning on playing this pile tonight, boys. wish me luck.

>>50187446

Thropter-Sword? Nice. Let us know how it goes. Also think up of a cool deck name so I don't have to call it "Thropter-Sword."

>>50187446
>Jeskai Thopter-Sword

What's your SB look like?

Is B/R Eldrazi a meme or is it real? I'm thinking about putting it together, it has two solid finishes but not much else going for it.

>>50187826
Honestly you could run any eldrazi colors at this point and it'd probably do fine
It's such a stupidly efficient package, all that shit is so cost efficient and powerful

>>50187504
Jeskai blade.

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>>50187596
not really sure what'll be in the room. last week I played against tokens, infect, and budget-ish grixis delver. I know there are a few jund and jeskai nahiri players, too.

>>50187880
I feel like "blade" somehow implies stoneforge (which I would play the shit out of if it was legal)

>>50187446
should try electrolyze

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>spend less than $60 to get pieces for a RW Sisters deck for shits & giggles
>it performs better in my local meta than the Abzan deck I've spend hundreds on

Granted I've only been playing it a couple weeks, but still...

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>mfw Quest for Ula's Temple

I want to play this card NOW

>>50188133
Deck is shit. Please stop samefagging it up

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>>50183293
>>50183404

Wanted to run an all monk melee in a P&P campaign and I've realized it would turn into some fighting game with fatalities.

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>>50188397

>literally no mention of either deck in this thread

Although if someone else here is playing Sisters I wouldn't mind comparing lists

>>50188709

Eh, don't worry about that anon, they're probably just some mad fag who think money should buy wins. RW Sisters is great.

>>50188709

Im playing a humans-heavy variant

4x Champion of the Parish
4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
3x Lightning Berserker
3x Norin the Wary
4x Thalia's Lieutenant
3x Ajani's Pridemate
4x Hanweir Garrison

4x Lightning Bolt
3x Path to Exile
2x Blood Moon

SB
3x Wear//Tear
3x Sudden Shock
2x Rest in Peace
1x Grafdigger's Cage
1x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Return to the Ranks
4x Flex slots

The guy that top 8'd the recent SCG modern classic said the traditional build (Genesis Chamber, Ranger of Eos, Purphoros) never failed him, and that T1 Norin into T2 Genesis Chambet was almost always a win, but I just dont see it working in an infect meta.

>>50188988

Of course I forgot the lands

4x Inspiring Vantage
4x Arid Mesa
2x Sacred Foundry
1x Westvale Abbey
11x Plains

>>50188241

get your playset before the octopus block and prices go through the roof!!!!!

also if you arent acquainted with Grozoth now is a good time

Ultra-Budget Gruul. Thoughts?

4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Disciple of the Old Ways
4 Flinthoof Boar
4 Skarrg Guildmage
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Vithian Renegades
4 Zendikar Incarnate
4 Zhur-Taa Druid
4 Kird Ape

4 Destructive Revelry

4 Timber Gorge
8 Forest
8 Mountain

>>50190003
get bolt

>>50190003

>burning tree emissary
>kird ape

>destructive revelry in sb

scrap the rest and start over.

>>50190089
Whats wrong with boar?

>>50190106

not too much, keep those until you find something better, as long as you get your mountain to make it a 3/3 consistently.

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>>50188988

Mine is more traditional but I'm running 3 Impact Tremors instead of Purphoros and Magus instead of Blood Moon proper. I don't have Hanwier Garrison in my list yet but I think may have to with all the synergies.

I haven't had a chance to play infect as of yet, but with Genesis Chamber getting you even two Myrs to chump block effectively negates the pump of a Mutagenic or a Blossomnig Defense and they get easily replaced for subsequent attacks. It obviously won't work for Inkmoths, but that's why we have Moons and Wear//Tear

>>50187504
well only 3 people including me showed up because I guess people here hate fun.

I went 1-1. beat grixis delver and lost to bw tokens. I got to ultimate elspeth though, so that was cool.

>tfw play top tier decks but really just want to play Abzan Company

>>50190941
I can't be bothered to play anything new since i have Jund.
No matter how much I play against Burn and Tron, I just never feel like dropping money for anything new

>>50191007
>Burn
You should almost never lose to burn with main deck kalitas and finks and stuff in the side

Ok, Blue Moon with a Wizard Tribal Theme. Seems fun, though also bad.


Creatures:
2 Vendilion Clique
4 Snapcaster Mage
1 Magus of the Moon
4 Voidmage Prodigy
4 Martyr of Frost
1 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
1 Master of Waves
3 Grim Lavamancer

Instant/Sorcery:
1 Izzet Charm
4 Remand
3 Mana Leak
4 Lightning Bolt

Artifacts:
1 Vedalken Shackles
1 AEther Vial

Enchantments:
3 Blood Moon

Lands:
2 Steam Vents
4 Scalding Tarn
11 Island
1 Mountain
4 Flooded Strand
1 Cryptic Command

>>50191171
Kalitas can't attack until turn 5. That's a long time against burn.
Game 1 is next to impossible with Thoughtsiezes and Confidants, and Finks and Huntsmaster don't give enough life.

>>50190003
You NEED ghor-clan rampager. Also a one of fling can be cute.

If you're not going Naya, use young wolf as another 1 drop.

Get bolts.

Get Kessig Wolf Run.

Get vexing devils

>>50191225

>finks
>doesnt give enough life
>undoes a shock on etb
>trades with guide, preventing more damage and undoing another shock

standard use case is 6-7 net undone/prevented damage and against burn that's a 2 for 1.

>>50190487

Sorry to hear, man. My Modern event last month almost didn't fire due to extremely lower attendance than normal, and it was to win a box. I wonder if it's a widespread problem.

>>50192094
I think it doesn't help that a lot of them are run during weekdays
Stores around here always reserve weekends for FNM/Draft/Legacy

So I traded 2 verdurous gearhulks and the new chandra to my LGS for inkmoth nexus and skittles dragon. Seemed like a good deal since I love infect and never played those cards- which seem to be dropping hard.

>>50180783
CoCo is only good if you're hitting creatures with total mana costs greater than its mana cost. Stompy has way too many 1s and 2s to make this worth running

>>50188133
fringe decks can often cheat wins just by suprising the opponent

>>50178417
Mono red storm

played in my first Modern FNM tonight.

Went 1-3 with 8 Whack Goblins deck I built this week. Stores meta is all over the place so it was hard to get a good sideboard.

Went 1-2 v RG Tron, kept some shonky hands and had no land destruction. Ultimately lost to Wurmcoils.

Went 1-2 v Naya Burn, first match I rampaged over them, post-sideboard I had no answers for Kor Firewalkers and lost the next two matches.

Went 2-1 v CoCo elves. First game I got outaggroed, 2nd game was turn 3 win for me, 3rd game was a turn 1 legion loyalist, dirty turn 2 burning-tree emissary into burning-tree emissary into surged reckless bushwhacker and they had lost it from that point.

Last match went 1-2 v Valakut. First game was an easy win for me, post sideboard they were able to remove a lot of useless stuff and became a race against them getting an inferno titan. Lost both of those with 2nd game keeping a 3 land hand into drawing land > land > land > creature > land and third game sitting on two reckless bushwhackers in hand while on 2 mana for awhile, have one of my mountains destroyed, draw a mountain and shortly have another mountain destroyed before inferno titan came out.

>>50183421
Having been a player of Mono W knights, I can tell you Caverns and Aether Vials are amazing, with the Obvious Knight Exemplar. Student of Warfare is often underestimated, and it's a bit harder to kill. Yes, it does to Bolt, but it can also murder people.

>>50195149
>>50183421

Are we talking Knights? I guess I'll post my list and get it out of the way

I've been playing this for about 2 months and it's not budget but it's fucking fun. It's a Junk list.

1 Plains
2 Overgrown Tomb
3 Windswept Heath
1 Rogue's Passage
2 Cavern of Souls
3 Godless Shrine
3 Isolated Chapel
1 Mutavault
1 Godless Shrine
1 Swamp
2 Marsh Flats
1 Temple Garden
1 Forest

3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
3 Haakon, Stromgald Scourge
3 Collective Brutality
2 Nameless Inversion
3 Path to Exile
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Accorder Paladin
3 Stinkweed Imp
2 Knight of the White Orchid
3 Knight Exemplar

SB:
1 Pithing Needle
2 Authority of the Consuls
2 Spellskite
1 Leyline of the Void
2 Stony Silence
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Wrath of God
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Collected Company
1 Rest in Peace

Plenty of interaction, plenty of good matchups, plenty of fun. Im fleshing out my paper list, just gotta get the balls to justify Lilis and Caverns when I live in a shit community with no modern.

Can someone explain to me why torrential gearhulk is suddenly a 13€ card? thanks.

>>50198076
Standard

>>50190003
May I recommend: lightning bolt, wild nacatl, ghor clan rampager, kalonian tusker?

>>50198099
Ah, thought it saw play in any other format too. But then again snapcaster exists.

>>50198076

Standard, pro tour, winning deck...etc.

On a side note if Frontier ever becomes a real format you can expect Torrential Gearhulk to spike the fuck hard as you cast Dig Through Time for free.

i aklways see people coplaingign burn is braindead and others saying they are retard and you don't understand burn until you can beat a kitchen finks. But kitchen finks and a decent hand seem unbeatable to me. How do you win against such a good 2 for 1er which also heals the enemy for more card waste?

>>50180083
>Not running Dungrove Elder
>Not running a one of Thrun
>Being this much of a pleb.

I'm making a janky combo deck. What are the best tutors for 0 and 1 CMC non-blue instants? I've got Mystical Teachings, Diabolic Tutor and Tolaria West.

>>50185182

Is she hot?

>>50185750
>9th and 25th at completely different GP's
>Playtesting

Sure bud.

>Jund Eldrazi midrange

Is this a good idea

Ancient stirrings, Thoughtseize, bolt , broken Eldrazi creatures etc

>>50198772
I've though about that but never got around to testing it

how the fuck does one beat Spell Queller

>>50199180
how the fuck does one *not* beat spell queller? cards fucking awful

>>50199216

support your fucking argument you cock.

>>50191225
Thoughtseizes gains you at least 1 life or somewhere between 4-6 if you nab an Eidolon and Confidants finds you removal and trades with Guide and chumps Nacatl, what are you on about? If you don't start by Lava Axing yourself and fetch basics and Burn draws even a single blank you should survive until Kalitas.

>>50199233
Spell queller sucks in modern and only scrubs have a problem with it. Support you argument that it even does anything, you stupid fuck

>>50185741
You're forgetting that fetches tap for 2 in infect.

>>50198367

>What is a stock list?

Some lists even run 1x Garruk Primal Hunter for spicy tech, the point is, those cards arent "stock"

>>50199379

Im done being trolled, anybody else?

>>50199482
Nope, spell queller really isn't that good anon.

>>50199598

stop samefagging you fucking faggot

http://www.mtgstocks.com/decks/formats/Modern/card/18078

Is Stonehoof chieftain easy top deal with because my friends get really pissed over indestructible cards?

>>50199783
not even modern legal faggot

>>50199783
Wut

>>50199848
wasn't it just released today how can it not be legal?

>>50199859
because you're retarded and this is a competitive thread

>>50199859
because commander sets are not legal in modern

>>50199880
My bad clicked on the wrong thread

>>50199180
Bolt
Counter counter spell
Abrupt decay

>>50200304
>Lantern is that high up

The fuck

What are they going to ban from dredge and infect when the funhammer hits?

>>50200893

Nothing. People who complain about either are just big babies who need to learn how2meta.

Infect may be on the watchlist, as its never failed to place atleast 2 in recent top 8s, or ~8 in top 32s. The problem is what to ban; ban Become Immense and it'll just go to Groundswell and keep on doing its thing.

Dredge is easy enough to deal with, the reason why a lot of people play it is its only around 700 bucks and its a tier 1 deck.

>>50200525
WE IN THERE

L A N T E R N B O I S

>>50199605
Neat. Doesn't mean spell queller is any good. Or that counterspells are any good. Or that you still haven't supplied any evidence that it is good. "A bunch of people play it in Tier 3 decks". Tell ya what, next time a UW spirits decks wins a gp, and becomes a tier 1 deck, I'll agree that it's good. But as of now you just need to git gud. And stop being but hurt that multiple people disagree with you. There are now a minimum of three anons you are arguing with

>>50181125
How would you make it work? In a control shell?

>>50199605
ok anon, since you insist on being such a bitch, I'll tell you how to beat spell queller

1) play removal (you really should be doing this anyway)
2) play discard
3) play many redundant, cheap threats that are individually not worth quelling, but together dick your opponent
4) play threats that are too big to quell
5) just kill your opponent before their turn 3

congratulations, if you follow one or more of the above steps, you should no longer have difficulties beating tier 7 meme decks from a month ago :)

I am new to magic so forgive me if this is a stupid question.
As a beginner, should I be playing Standard or Modern? What is the major difference between the two?

>>50203158
how much are you willing to spend

>>50203188
I've already bought the Kaladesh box (with 10 boosters) 3 eldritch moon boosters, got a blue/black control deck for playing a learn-the-game tournament, and the blessed vs cursed duel deck.
I am interested in the hobby so while I may hesitate at spending thousands of dollars, hundreds (in the long term) is okay.

>>50203223
you want standard

>>50203239
Okay cool. thanks anon.

>>50203242
no u

>>50199409
I don't understand this, why?

>>50203326
he meant become immense

>>50203338
Oh, got it.

Anyone have any advice for my BW Sisters? In b4 "kill yourself"

4 Blood Artist
4 Death Cultist
4 Soul Warden
4 Soul's Attendant
4 Zulaport Cutthroat
1 Consume Spirit
1 Damnation
4 Dark Prophecy
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Immortal Servitude
1 Languish
1 Sanguine Bond

4 Marsh Flats
4 Godless Shrine
2 Plains
14 Swamp

>>50203552
kys

>>50203552

Just play BW Rally the Ancestors

>>50203552
Looks good for casual, but for not for Modern

Splendid Reclamation Dredge is hilarious, catches so many people off guard

>>50203745
That sounds interesting, have a list?

>>50203745
gets blown the fuck out by gy hate though

>>50176927
I have a pretty good almost mono green list. It's just splashing some blue to make things unblockable. Let me get on my PC in a few minutes to post list.

>>50205283

Here's my mostly mono green list.

4 Blighted Agent
4 Glistener Elf
4 Noble Hierarch

4 Mutagenic Growth
4 Blossoming Defense
4 Might of Old Krosa
4 Vines of Vastwood
4 Become Immense
2 Distortion Strike
4 Gitaxian Probe
2 Dismember

1 Dryad Arbor
2 Forest
2 Breeding Pool
4 Inkmoth Nexus
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Verdant Catacombs
3 Windswept Heath
3 Wooded Foothills
2 Pendelhaven

SB:

1 Viridian Corrupter
4 Kitchen Finks
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Spell Pierce
2 Twisted Image
1 Dismember
3 Nature's Claim

it isn't infect, I swear. It CAN win by attacking for 20 with Noble Hierarch. I've done it before.

>>50205327
-1 fetchland, oops. I typed this list from memory.

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>tfw i miss birthing pod

i will never chain exarch into resto into kiki in modern ever again

Should I get into modern?

>>50199180
>t3 spell quell my anger of the gods
>t4 bolt queller
>cast anger of the gods
What's the problem

Esper tokens. Any spicy tech I need to know about. Basically running bw tokens with a handful of counters and snappy.

>>50199180
You must be playing a trash deck because every deck has access to at least Dismember.

Quelling something in Modern is pretty bad because of the easy removal there is, Abrupt Decay, Path to Exile, Dismember, Lightning Bolt and you can cast your CMC4 or less spell at instant speed.

The only deck I can think of that doesn't really play instant speed removal is dredge, and the deck doesn't really care if you Quell any of their spells because by turn two dredge should have dredged at least like 10 cards.

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I just inherited three swords of fire and ice and three swords of light and shadow plus a bunch of other cheaper equipment
Is it possible to make a competitive equipment deck on modern or is it garbage?

>>50201870
In a FOG shell, my boy

>>50206634
Equipments only in Legacy, mate

>>50200893
>What are they going to ban from dredge and infect when the funhammer hits?
Nothing. Banning cards would reduce their value which would make collectors sad. If anything, they'll just change how infect works. For example an Inkmoth that became immense will hit for 1 point of infect and 6 points of damage instead of seven points of infect.

>>50203158
Either can cost fuck tons of money. The biggest difference is that Modern is eternal, and standard isn't. This means that Modern staples tend to be more expensive, but at least you don't have to buy a new playset of Goyf every year.

>>50203552
>BW Sisters
I love BW, but why?

>>50203158

Standard is the last 5-8 sets depending on when rotation happened.
Currently standard is the following
BFZ+OGW
SOI+EMN
KLD

Aether Revolt is KLD's small set. Amonket and Hour of Devastation come after that. The set after Hour of Devastation is rotation and BFZ, OGW, SOI and EMN rotate then. Every fall the oldest two blocks (four sets) will rotate out. Every other set is a large set, the first in a block.

Sets are roughly every three months. Two sets now make up a block, which is a coherent flavor and mechanic theme. SOI and EMN are the spoopy world and is a graveyard block. KLD and Aether Revolt are steampunk without the steam or punk and focuses on artifacts.

Modern is everything from Mirrodin on with a ban list. Everything that's in the standard sets is legal in modern except for those banned

Modern is a larger up front investment but you canusuallyplay your deck for longer than you can in standard. Standard is cheaper to get into but is much more expensive if you play longer than like, two years if you're lucky.

>>50203158

The following sets are legal:

Kaladesh
Eldritch Moon
Shadows over Innistrad
Oath of the Gatewatch
Battle for Zendikar
Magic Origins
Dragons of Tarkir
Fate Reforged
Khans of Tarkir
Magic 2015
Journey into Nyx
Born of the Gods
Theros
Magic 2014
Dragon's Maze
Gatecrash
Return to Ravnica
Magic 2013
Avacyn Restored
Dark Ascension
Innistrad
Magic 2012
New Phyrexia
Mirrodin Besieged
Scars of Mirrodin
Magic 2011
Rise of the Eldrazi
Worldwake
Zendikar
Magic 2010
Alara Reborn
Conflux
Shards of Alara
Eventide
Shadowmoor
Morningtide
Lorwyn
Tenth Edition
Future Sight
Planar Chaos
Time Spiral
Coldsnap
Dissension
Guildpact
Ravnica: City of Guilds
Ninth Edition
Saviors of Kamigawa
Eighth Edition
Betrayers of Kamigawa
Champions of Kamigawa
Fifth Dawn
Darksteel
Mirrodin

The following cards are banned:

Ancient Den
Birthing Pod
Blazing Shoal
Bloodbraid Elf Jund players, shuddup
Chrome Mox
Cloudpost
Dark Depths
Deathrite Shaman
Dig Through Time blue isn't strong enough, unbanplz
Dread Return
Eye of Ugin
Glimpse of Nature
Great Furnace
Green Sun's Zenith
Hypergenesis
Jace, the Mind Sculptor blue isn't strong enough, unbanplz
Mental Misstep blue isn't strong enough, unbanplz
Ponder blue isn't strong enough, unbanplz
Preordain blue isn't strong enough, unbanplz
Punishing Fire
Rite of Flame
Seat of the Synod
Second Sunrise
Seething Song
Sensei's Divining Top
Skullclamp
Splinter Twin You'll never not hear people complaining that this made modern healthy
Stoneforge Mystic stoneforge is fair, it only searches equipment and can't tap to put it onto the battlefield that turn cuz sick
Summer Bloom
Treasure Cruise blue isn't strong enough, unbanplz
Tree of Tales
Umezawa's Jitte
Vault of Whispers

>>50207234
i messed up the spoiler
oops

>>50207234
Wasn't Stoneforge banned because cawblade was too strong for standard and they just never bothered to unban it?

>>50207287
>>50207287
Basically.
SFM and Jace were banned from the beginning of modern because cawblade was basically deathblade in standard with Gideon and Celestial Colonnade as threats in addition to unlimited birbs.

>>50207302
and by standard deathblade, I mean that legacy deathblade was legacy cawblade plus black for cards like deathrite shaman, dark confidant and discard spells.

More people seem to actually know what deathblade is than actually what cawblade is other than 'that deck that got banned from standard'.

obviously it's only newer players as everyone who was around 2011 or so knew very well what cawblade was

>>50200525

GET DUNKED ON AGGRO BABIES

Some modern threads ago someone posted a Tutelage list with many damage prevention effects and I looked around until I found something similar:

mtgvault.com/palarus/decks/uw-mesmeric-fog-tutelage/

I'm thinking of dealing with the high number of aggro players in my store with it, but I have no experience playing it.
Any of you guys played something like it previously? Did you get any good results?

Who ready for another skred red win?

Is there a website that has a collection of HQ mtg card art?

I'm a new player and just love looking at the cards themselves, but everywhere I look it's some shitty scan or something

thanks lads

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>merfolk down to 1%

Wondering if /tg/ can suggest a good budget deck that is highly interactive? Most of the suggestions I see are real linear aggro, burn or similar.

>>50209715
>>50178958

I want to play modern but it's depressing to me how dumb and aggressive and uninteractive the format is.

Which non-aggro tier 1 decks cause the most butthurt to modern players?

>>50209777
Going by our friend desolator, Ad-nauseam.

>>50209734
Got 20 snow mountains I can borrow?

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>>50209858
Actually I got a shitload of snow covered mountains from cold snap

>>50205929

>Assuming you can bolt queller when the rest of the deck is counters, flash hexproof, instant speed indestructible flying clocks

You need to have at least 2 answers in hand at all times

>>50205327
>it isn't infect, I swear. It CAN win by attacking for 20 with Noble Hierarch. I've done it before.

So can literally any other infect list and they do

There's a reason people tell you not to forget about hierarch beats when you're vs infect, it's a fucking infect list

>End step turn 3 Jeff Hoogland flashes in Resto Angel
>Untap, draw, play Kiki Jiki
This format is SO interactive holy shit it's so fucking FUN.

>>50209777
>>50209791
This and RG Tron even though people still stupidly enough classify it as an uninteractive combo deck and not the hard tap-out control deck it is that happens to use a big mana engine to enable its game plan.

>>50209610
If you have a few specific artists you know of, quite a few of them have DeviantArt pages. I'd start there, or in the WotC MTG page where they store the wallpapers.

Why are so many people anal about the old Balance art? I like the new art a lot more

>>50211550
Nostalgia. Though I agree with you
I have a casual deck with balance and restore balance, along with Armageddon and wrath of god. Fun times

On Corey Burkharts list

Why do Grixis builds run basic mountain. They say they're afraid of Blood Moon, which is why the basic islands/swamp but I don't understand the mountain.

Do you think Spirebluff Canal really warrants a spot as a one-of? Sure it always ETBs untapped and isn't an island but Sulfur Falls is basically the opposite, after turn 1-2 it'll always ETB untapped.

What do you think of siding Painful Truths for other control decks?

Creature: 7
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Tasigur, the Golden Fang

Spells: 31
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Serum Visions
4 Thought Scour
4 Cryptic Command
2 Countersquall
2 Spell Snare
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Terminate
3 Kolaghan's Command
1 Engineered Explosives

Land: 22
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Watery Grave
2 Steam Vents
1 Blood Crypt
2 Creeping Tar Pit
3 Island
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Spirebluff Canal
1 Sulfur Falls

Sideboard (15)
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Anger of the Gods
1 Damnation
2 Dispel
3 Fulminator Mage
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Sun Droplet
3 Surgical Extraction

>>50200953
It's a tier one deck because many people play it

there's no judge thread

I activate Liliana to both discard
I pass priority
my opponent passes priority
can I now activate the only spell in my hand? or does Liliana's ability resolve if I don't hold priority?

>>50212325
nope
Once you both pass priority, the effect resolves. If they casted a spell in response you'd get priority again

>>50200953
Dredge should be much less than that depending on what you do for sideboard and lands. I think I put mine together for 480, but that was before the deck was popular. It's a shame that deck is boring as fuck to play. At least I have a loner deck while I'm piloting infect I guess.

What is the most fun deck to play in modern, while still winning an fair number of games?

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>>50209610
http://www.slightlymagic.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=15&sid=c40c987365631a5f8c5c4946898706c4

This is the best/most consistent there is. Otherwise it's hunting down DA profiles.

>>50209715
Mono blue permission?

>>50212569
Depends on your definition of fun.

>>50212569
infect,merfolk, abzan, lantern control and Mardu Nahiri.

Help a brother out with esper tokens?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-11-16-esper-tokens/

Cheers lads

>>50212591
lots of interaction

>>50212908
Then your in the wrong thread. This is the modern thread. The most uninteractive format. (I wish I was joking)

>>50212569
Infect or Affinity
Every game you ride the lightning.

thoughts on Doubling Planeswalkers deck?

4 forest
1 island
1 mountain
3 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
2 Breeding Pool
3 Misty Rainforest
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Windswept Heath
1 Horizon Canopy
3 Search for Tomorrow
3 Farseek
3 Blood Moon
4 Oath of Nissa
4 Doubling Season
3 Anger of the Gods
4 sakura elder tribe
1 emrakul, the aeons torn
4 Jace, Architect of Thought
2 Tamiyo, Field Researcher
1 Nahiri, the Harbinger
1 Ral Zarek
3 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
1 Chandra, Flamecaller
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

>>50213192
It's no good

Could WG tron work? I feel having access to Horizon Canopy, path, and wrath could be useful

>>50212569
Dredge. Played it last week and it was a blast.

>>50213192
Can you even get to 7 mana for ugin?

>>50213322
The beauty of Tron is that you can really do whatever the hell you want.

>>50213357
Well, the question is could it perform as well as RG tron.

>>50213322
It's good if your meta is infect/bogles/suicide bloo heavy since Blessed Alliance fucks them

>>50213386
Probably not. But does it matter? Brew it up and have a good time.

>>50213337
jace help

>>50213192
You have zero interaction until Turn 3, unless you count a 2-mana 1/1 as interaction.

No offense, but your deck is horrible.

I'm throwing together a janky UG (maybe UGR if I can swing the manabase) ramp deck. How much ramp is too much?

>>50213462
>no offense
it's not mine, it's an old meta
also the zero interaction for the first turns is price you paid for literally invade the battlefield with ready-pumped up planeswalker.

Sell me on Eldrazi and Taxes

>>50213497
Ramping how and into what?

>>50213539
Well. It has Eldrazi. It's also got Taxes. Seems like a solid plan to me.

>>50213555
Well, what I have for sure is the Arbor Elf/Utopia Sprawl combo and Farseek. Thinking of including Mwonvuli Acid Moss and Search for Tomorrow.

The ramp goal is to get to Metallurgic Summonings and higher CMC instants/sorceries.

>>50211992
>Why do Grixis builds run basic mountain. They say they're afraid of Blood Moon, which is why the basic islands/swamp but I don't understand the mountain.
Basic mountain is so you can fetch an untapped red source without shocking yourself.

>Do you think Spirebluff Canal really warrants a spot as a one-of? Sure it always ETBs untapped and isn't an island but Sulfur Falls is basically the opposite, after turn 1-2 it'll always ETB untapped.
Canal is justfied because you want to hit T1 visions and scour.

>What do you think of siding Painful Truths for other control decks?
Control mirrors aren't a huge consideration in modern, and even then I'd rather just have fulminators and maybe a planeswalker to try to slam as a bomb.

>>50213610
Alright, and what are you casting to get fat creatures out of summonings?

>>50206785
>>BW Sisters
>I love BW, but why?

My favorite card is Death Cultist and I wanted to build a deck that worked round him.

>>50213735
To be entirely honest with you I haven't gotten that far yet. Definitely planning on Part the Waterveil and Time Warp.

>>50213531
Youre dead by turn 3 m8

>>50213858
questionable... but i accept your opinion

>>50213833
Might just be too slow going for traditional ramp

I would even try it as a mono-u tron deck. 2 blue is pretty easy to get, maybe include epiphany at the drownyard and have regular U tron wincons like Sundering Titan, Ugin, Wurmcoil

That way you can still fire off big blue spells and have a fallback wincon

>>50213858
Only if you're against Infect. Maybe Affinity if they had a pretty explosive T1.

>>50214025
>Might just be too slow going for traditional ramp
You're probably right. Maybe I'll revisit this if the turn 3 decks get pushed out of the top spots in the meta.

>>50213322
You get elesh which is neat

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http://deadspin.com/please-return-cassius-marshs-stolen-magic-the-gatherin-1788835163

Not sure if I am slowpoking or not. NFL player had his MtG decks stolen. It was one of you, wasn't it...

I really want to replace Bskull with a 2 or 3 drop in Skred Red but I want to maintain the deck's invulnerability to Path. Any suggestions?

>>50215253
Why replace it

>>50215155
man thats fuckin beat. i mean i scrub pots and play with salads at the garde manger station for 10 bux an hour and i'm still getting feels for this dude's collection getting ganked.
the worst thing is it was probably a junkie and they probably ran through his shit for cash, electronics and jewelry and chucked everything else in the river.

>>50215281
It's a five drop that doesn't really do much of anything and even though that retard won a GP it doesn't really belong in the deck.

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>>50215253
Or just more Eternal Scourge

>>50215155
I hate shit like this. It makes me bring less decks wherever I go.

>>50215382
Honestly I've been thinking that but it just doesn't do much in a lot of matchups.

>>50215417
i only travel with the deck i intend to play and an empty binder if i plan on buying cards.

>>50215788
If I ever start going to events outside my LGS, I will be trying to bring the absolute minimum. It will probably be the deck I'm playing and one commander deck with minimal tokens. I wish it wasn't like this, but it is.

>>50206646
>fog shells
eurgh

I want to play delver of secrets in a control shell, where's a good place to start? I don't want to play kiln field style decks. Is pauper worth playing?

>>50216117
Absolutely.

>>50214025
Not the anon you're talking to, but this is a fantastic idea. What are some good control spells to toss in? That 7 mana exile is a given.

>>50216164
I think syncopate usually goes in U-Tron, but I could be wrong.

>>50216209
that would just create a 1/1 with summonings, wouldn't it?

Repostan in this thread because the standard thread is all but dead:

I'm pretty new and trying to build my first semi-serious deck but am very limited on resources.
How can I improve what I have currently? I'm trying to do a WB control/energy sort of thing with a bunch of draw control.
Thanks in advance!

Land
2 Aether Hub
1 Evolving Wild
10 Island
11 Plain

Artifacts
2 Glassblower's Puzzleknot
1 Smuggler's Copter
1 Dynavolt tower

Creatures
3 Bastion Mastodon
4 Aether Theorist
2 Janjeet Sentry
2 Aethersquall Ancient
2 Gearshift Ace
2 Visionary Augmenter
1 Cataclysmic Gearhulk
1 Torrential Gearhulk
1 Propeller Pioneer

Noncreature Spells
4 Revoke Privleges
1 Skywhaler's Shot
2 Refurbish
1 Era of Innovation
2 Impeccable Timing
1 Built to Last
2 Select for Inspection
1 Confiscation Coup
1 Zealous Strike

Sideboard
none lol

>>50216253

No summonings checks the cmc of the spell on the stack, not the cards cmc

>>50216530
Well shit, summonings could actually be pretty insane in standard then, couldn't it?

>>50216511
First off blue white is abbreviated UW, WB is black white

I would say the best thing to improve your deck is to make it more focused, more streamlined

If you're an energy deck then there no reason to be playing propeller pioneer, and you don't have enough good artifacts to be playing 2 refurbish

>>50216511
That's not standard, that's casual and it doesn't belong here at all.

>>50216164
Condescend.

>>50216566

I've seen it do insane things in standard already, its somewhat slow but the lack of enchantment hate in the meta really helps the deck

Summonings turn 5 part the waterveil turn 6 is very spicy in standard

>>50216827
I know it's the wrong thread for it, but what would be good in a summonings deck in standard?

>>50216858

You can google standard metallurgic summonings to get some examples, also on YouTube, I remember watching at least 1 maybe 2 different metallurgic aummonings decks played on mtg goldfish, who is a likable streamer, though I'm not sure if his version of metallurgic summonings was the best possible

>>50216795
Thanks for the help, I swapped out those three cards for three thriving ibexes. Is there anything else I should look out for? Maybe some specific cards that would help?

>>50216993

Playable energy cards in your colors off the top of my head:

Aether meltdown
Aetherstorm roc
Glimmer of genius
Multiform wonder

>>50216917
I've played his, and it doesn't seem very good.

>>50217095
I'll swap an ibex and a mastodon for a glimmer and meltdown.
Thanks a bunch, guy, maybe this deck won't fall flat on its face now

>>50215490
>eats guides for days
>eats unpumped swifts for days
>eats snaps for days
>puts in beats for days
Do it.

BR Eldrazi or Eldrazi and Taxes? They both look fun to play, are around the same price in terms of paper (although E&T is slightly more expensive), and I get to swing in with big dumb eldrazi

>>50216117

>>50216117
you could take a look at some of the mono-U delver decks and adjust them to be more control focused

>>50217694
Taxes is more popular
I think BR has a lot of untapped potential though so If you're willing to try both I would

>>50217604
Dies to my own Angers and Pyroclasms, just like all those other things you mentioned.

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>>50216117
overturf-style (no you're my pyromancer or gitaxian probe) grixis delver decks in modern are control shells. this is my list, but I swapped one terminate for a hero's downfall to be able to kill planeswalker without giving up the ability to handle manlands. the sideboard is tuned for my paper meta, but lots of the card choices are good overall. just no one plays dredge here so I'm not wasting spots on surgical extraction.

>>50212908
dredge has lots of interaction.

life from the loam + bloodghasts is a profitable interaction

loam + conflag

bloodghast + amalgam

fetchland + bloodghast

narco + amalgam

rally/scourge devil + lots of creatures

conflag + loam + bloodghasts = haste bloodghasts

the deck has lots of great interactions.

Seriously, though, pick a deck that already exists and learn it inside and out. Get good with the deck and you'll win a fair amount.

IMO these are the best modern decks in order

infect
dredge
affinity / burn
death's shadow
abzan
jund
grixis / jeskai control
jeskai nahiri

as you can see, the first five I listed are 'non-interactive'

>>50219643
most infect lists run 8-10 counterspells main in addition to 2-4 kill spells. I fail to see how this is "non-interactive."

>>50218183
>want a 2 drop
>doesnt want it to die to his angers or pyroclasms
choose one

>>50213616
>>50211992

I'm new to Grixis, how would you side against burn?

I was thinking

IN:
1 Explosives?
2 Sun Droplet/Kalitas
2 Dispel
2 Anger of the Gods

OUT:
3 Terminate
1 Explosives?

I've seen many burn players side out most creatures for Game 2 to make any creature kill spells dead. Should I side out the mained Explosives and Terminates and just rely on Anger of the Gods, Bolt and Kolaghan's Command for creature kill?

I'm also going to try Kalitas. Both Kalitas and Sun Droplet take a while to get going but Sun Droplet can only gains 2 life each turn cycle. Kalitas can gain 3+ and makes a lot of other decks upset, too.

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>>50215382
It doesn't have pro white but it has haste and discourages people from using flashback spells.

>>50219672
Tarmogoyf

>>50219751
in skred?

>>50219758
snow-covered forest. do it, pussy, you won't.

>>50219804
Was gonna say green has a snow-covered basic.
>>50219758
Skred Gruul. Gruul is all about savagery. Savage your opponent's with Goyf and Skred.

>>50219845
and into the north can tutor for scrying sheets and mouth of ronom

>>50219896
>>50219845
>>50219804
you are onto something

>>50219896
Sylvan Scrying searches anything but doesn't put it onto the battlefield. Surely Into the North is better in skred.

I have the biggest hard on for Life from the Loam but I think it could fit into the sideboard if you choose Sylvan Scrying over Into the North I wouldn't and you can recur Ghost Quarter over and over.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&type=+[%22Snow%22]&format=+[%22Modern%22]&color=+![U]+![W]+![B]

Boreal Druid
Highland Weald... eh

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&text=+[snow]&format=+[%22modern%22]&color=+![U]+![W]+![B]

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/11-11-16-esper-tokens/

Give us a hand with this decklist. It's doing pretty well in testing but maybe needs a better match up with aggro.

Tell what you like, what you don't like.

Remanding your own spell when they attempt to counter is fantastic once mentor sticks.

>>50219994
I don't really see what's the purpose of Blessed Alliance, Collective Effort will probably do more if you want a modal card.

Against Aggro I've heard that token decks like to use Sorin. Solemn Visitor for his +1. The other 4 mana Sorin might also be an option, or new Kalitas.

>>50219994
>>50220056
I really like both Sorin's as a one-of each.

I don't know if it's something you want to be doing but a one-of Westvale Abbey could be an option if it's needed.

I want to waste my money on something stupid and gimmicky to make me feel like a fucking snowflake. What deck should I buy?

>>50219751
>>50219742
The deck runs 4 mainboard Relics guys.

>>50220154
Well, we've just managed to cram Goyf into Skred, I'm sure you can do some more stupid shit with Snow permanents and jack up the price with more colors.

>>50220226
HERE'S COMES THE JUND BLIZZARD BABEEEEEEEE

>>50220246
What do you want to add black for? And can the deck still reliably function with only fetches + snow basics?

How many lands does the deck play?

4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
10 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Snow-Covered Swamp
1 Snow-Covered Forest

>>50220297
To make the deck more expensive, duh. And discard against decks low on creatures.

>>50220101
I have 3 copies solemn visitor. I'll have him in the sideboard somewhere.

>>50220056
Blessed alliance is there for creatures with protection, indestructible, pumped, hexproof etc.I don't really use the other modes desu

Does anyone else have a suspission that Tom Ross is stacking his deck? He seems to have perfect draws abit too often

>>50220348
It's also possible that Infect just doesn't draw bad. Did you consider that that is why it's a good deck?

>>50220332
In that case you might want to look at your mana and consider Geth's Verdict.

>>50220391
>It's also possible that Infect just doesn't draw bad.

That is mathematically impossible

>>50220581
That's why magic has mulligan rules.

>>50220401

>blessed alliance
>sticks to their attacking creature which is their threat
>vs affinity
>they have, say, Etched Champion carrying a hat and a bunch of tiny things they aren't swinging with because you have a board state

Would you want Geths Verdict?

>>50221213

Alternatively
>Eldrazi
>Have a thought knot, a reality smasher, a birds

Geths or Blessed? It's pretty obvious.

>>50220401
>look at your mana and consider geths verdict

geths verdict is more restrictive to cast. are you suggesting he skew his manabase to more heavily include black for a card that does *less* things than blessed alliance? verdict is a trap.

>>50219994

Ok, guys I made a few changes, but now i am running 21 lands and have space for one more card.

What are we feeling?

Hey guys, went 4-0 last week with this list, any recommendations?

4 Birds of Paradise
3 Chord of Calling
4 Collected Company
2 Eternal Witness
4 Forest
1 Gavony Township
1 Inkmoth Nexus
1 Kessig Wolf Run
3 Kitchen Finks
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Lotus Cobra
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Orzhov Pontiff
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Path to Exile
1 Primeval Titan
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Selfless Spirit
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Stomping Ground
3 Temple Garden
1 Vault of the Archangel
2 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Worship
SB: 2 Blessed Alliance
SB: 2 Fracturing Gust
SB: 1 Gaddock Teeg
SB: 1 Kataki, War's Wage
SB: 1 Reveillark
SB: 4 Sin Collector
SB: 1 Spellskite
SB: 2 Stony Silence
SB: 1 Yixlid Jailer

>>50222242
It's too scattered
Don't run Sigarda or Titan with Coco
If you want to stay in Abzan colors try Abzan coco, otherwise go for Kiki Chord or Reliquary Retreat
You've got most of the pieces to make like 3 different decks, you just need a direction to go in. If your midrange deck isn't shutting down your opponent's (ie Jund/Junk) or absurdly efficient (Eldrazi), you need some way to finish the game because Lotus Cobra does not have more value than a TKS, and giving the deck an infinite combo is that out

>>50222339
The Titan's there for Inkmoth+Wolf run combo kills to get past board stalls and it's fairly easy to Chord with Lotus Cobra+fetches, Sigarda's a flex slot for sure, could trim her+something for Seer and Melira. Lotus Cobra by itself *is* insane value since you can just dump your mana into hand full of 3drops and Companies or swing for 10+ with Wolf Run.

>>50222384
Retreat to Coralhelm does the exact same thing but better since you can get it out on turn 3 and just win from there, look into it

>>50222399
The deck loses to any spot removal and isn't as valuelicious without Coralheim sticking on the board which is a problem this list doesn't really have.

>>50222415
If somebody uses their turn 3 to destroy a retreat to coralhelm you're in a good spot
Besides, you can do it at instant speed

>>50219492
Looks great, thanks anon.