Space Marine chapter creation thread

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>50165480

Let's find out.

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>>50165490
Strategic Prognostication - "Our tarot cards say there's going to be a threat here, maybe. Found a Chapter!"

Ok, good start so far, let's keep on going.

>When Was The Chapter Founded? (d100)

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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>50165505

>>50165515
36th Millennium (Cursed Founding, this Chapter be fucked)

fugg :D:D:D:D

Next roll:
>Who was the Chapter's Progenitor? (d100)

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>>50165529

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>>50165540
Ultra Marines

BAHTTLE BROTHAS!

>Gene-seed purity (d10)

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Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>50165573

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>50165573
boo

>>50165582
>>50165585
Ok. So we either got SUPER PURE or SUPER FLAWED!
Should I roll a d2 to see which one we use?

>>50165612
Cuh-learly we're both, half the chapter has just gone to hell. A d2 sounds fine, though.

>>50165612

I vote both. We appear super PURE, and do well to maintain this appearance, but underneath we conceal a terrible flaw!

Or something. It'd be fitting for a the most "pure" Cursed Founding chapter to have some secret, hideous flaw.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>50165627
>>50165645
I will roll a d2 for now

>>50165653
Ok so we are pure

Moving on

>Chapter Demeanour (d10)

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>>50165653

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>50165653

Pure. But let's do supplemental rolls later if we decide to try and incorporate the flaws.

Move on and we'll flesh it out after the recap.

>>50165666

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>50165666

>>50165673
Swift As The Wind - Going slowly and thinking things out? *BLAM* No.

We fast'n'sheeit

And since we rolled on pure we don't need to roll on the flaws and mutations tables

>Figure of Legend (d100)

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>>50165694

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>>50165694

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>>50165711
>>50165702
Chief Librarian

Our Chief Librarian was our hero, now what bas ass thing did he do, (d100)

Rolled 84 (1d100)

>>50165720

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Rolled 26 (1d100)

>>50165720

>>50165723
The figure led an action against an Eldar craftworld, boarding it and inflicting grievous casualties before withdrawing.
He and his Chapter are especially hated by the pernicious Eldar, for whom the event is still fresh and raw.

We are more swift than some pansy as Xenos
>And so they went to war

Chapter homeworld (d100)

Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>50165747

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Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>50165747

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>>50165758
>>50165763
What are the odds!

Hive World

>Terrain (d100)

Rolled 86 (1d100)

>>50165784

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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>50165784

>>50165694

>And since we rolled on pure we don't need to roll on the flaws and mutations tables

But it's FUN!

>>50165788
Airless Hive world
Spoopy

>Rule of homeworld (d10)

I'm good at color schemes and lore / identity

I could help if you want

>>50165758
>>50165763
>>50165788
>these 8s
KHORNATE CORRUPTION DETECTED

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>50165821

>>50165828

You'd be a welcome addition to the thread. Let's finish and recap before we start thinking up stuff, though.

Stewardship - "Hi, Planetary Governor? It's me, the Chapter Master. Just calling you to remind you that I outrank you, even if I don't do anything."

>Chapter organisation (d10)
Make this one good now Anons

Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>50165849

>>50165845

I dont know how to roll dice but I'll be around for the threads

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>50165849

>>50165863
I'm the same way.

>>50165863

Type "dice+[how many dice you want to roll]d[however many sides the dice has]" into the options field.

>>50165863
dice+xdy in the options tab

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>>50165859
Codex-adherant

Well, expected by the ultramarines

>Combat doctrine (d10)

>>50165863
>>50165889
>>50165891
>>50165895

The sticky also tells you.

>>50165898

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>>50165898

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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>50165898

>>50165920
Ranged Combat

Pew pew

>What form do the Chapters' beliefs take? (d100)

Rolled 31 (1d100)

>>50165934

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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>50165934

>>50165898
typical Ultra-smurf

Do you guys want
>>50165945 Revere the Primarch

or

>>50165950 Totem creature

>>50165963
Totem Creature. Girlyman is cool, but not as interesting.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>50165963

>Spiritual Liege
-or-
>WOLFWOLFWOLF

... choices.

I'll vote with a dice roll.

>>50165963
Fuck the spiritual liege, Totem Creature

>>50165963
Totem Creature seems a little gimmicky.

>>50165973
>>50165976
>>50165980
Seems like totem creature wins
>You know how we've got a hawk as our Chapter symbol? Yeah, we're going to stick that everywhere

At what strength is the Chapter? (d10)

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>50165973
>>50165976
>>50165980
>>50165989
>>50166000

How about a hybrid belief system? The Totem animal represents our Primarch? We can figure out what it is later.

>>50166003
Under Strength: The Chapter is recovering from a defeat or accident that occurred several decades ago, or has recently suffered heavy, but not irrecoverable losses. It is probably at a minimum of half strength, and should return to nominal strength within a decade.

>Who are your Chapter friendly with? (d100)

Rolled 1 (1d100)

>>50166015

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>>50166022
Administratum

Hey four eyes! Have your written down our 4325th victory yet!

>Administratum

>>50166033

Well, we're fine when it comes to our tax returns.

>>50166033
ok, enemies d100

>>50166003

A totem creature can also be an icon unrelated to an animal, mind you

My own chapter uses an icon representing the red star of their homeworld before it was destroyed.

No matter how gimmicky, it can always be worked around to make it believable and feasible

Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>50166052

>>50166033

This could be interesting.

Remember the administratum hold incredible power and that Goge Vandire was drom the administratum

>>50166054

Makes sense. A Totem in general rather than a Totem as only a creature.

Similarly, my own chapter uses a stylized Sol as theirs.

>>50166065

Without the quotes.

fight

>>50166068
Being friends with them also means we probably have a good supply of high quality gear.

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>>50166055
Orks!

ok, that was the enitre table.
I do have the chaper name tables from the DW RPG here if you guys want to roll up a name?

>>50166089
Or get the best missions. Like a reverse Lamentors. Maybe we're the Lucky Marines.

>>50166096
It would help us find our totem creature/symbol at least.

>>50166096

We can probably make one up better, but let's roll and see what we get anyway, and discount it if it's stupid.

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>>50166107
Alright

>>50166096

I think the chapter has to have an indirect allusion to the Clinton / Trump election, maybe in the name maybe in its history

Just because it was created at the same time the election was happening

>>50166107
Well not a lot of things live on an airless hive world. The lack of atmosphere would make Stars and similar stuff a logical choice.

Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>50166124

>>50166105

Might be neat if we contrasted it with a geneseed flaw roll.

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>>50166124

Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>50166147

>>50166143
>Mailed.

Name Idea: Knights of the Obsidian Sky. With the lights of the hives making it hard to see the stars, so darkness or an empty sky is own totem.

>>50166124
dice+[1]d[100]

>>50166134
Not necessarily, there could be wacky space versions of more common animals. Like the ship parasites in Star Wars.

>>50166156

>Mailed Scorpions.

>>50166134
What about landmarks? Maybe we can have those as totem symbols as well?

>>50166167

Mailed Marauders seems like a top notch Khorne warband name

Rolled 51, 38 = 89 (2d100)

>>50166124
>>50166147
Rollin just to see what I get

Rolled 26, 89 = 115 (2d100)

>>50166124
>>50166147

Id be down with that name

Let's get a recap of all rolled results before we start brainstorming. Then we can pick out themes more easily and start making this into something.

>>50166185

Could just be ours. Of course, is we subtract one from the first and add one to the second we get the Iron Sentinels.

>>50166133
Let's not

>>50166207

Mailed Marauders is somewhat gimmicky, although I like the Marauders part.

>>50166174
It could be an esoteric blending of Guilliman and some feature perhaps?

War Cunt

>>50166222
I agree, especially since we're supposed to be quick and shooty.

How about Lightning Marauders?

War Whore

>>50166147
Damn

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I stuck both together, for future reference.

>>50166258

I propose Omega Marauders

Partly for the Ultramarine heritage and partly because both the Omega and Mu are greek letters that can work very well on their symbols

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>>50166352

I see what you did there.

>>50166352
/roll

Well, since no one is doing a recap:
>Strategic Prognostication
>36th Millennium Founding (Cursed Founding)
>Ultramarines Progenitor
>Pure? Geneseed
>Demeanor: Swift As The Wind
>Figure of Legend: Chief Librarian
>Took action against an Eldar Craftworld
>Homeworld: Hive World
>Vacuum/Airless Terrain
>Rule by Stewardship
>Codex Compliant Organization
>Ranged Combat Doctrine
>Beliefs: Totem (and also Primarch?)
>Chapter Strength: Under Strength, probably at a minimum of half strength
>Friendly with the Administratum
>Enemies: Orks

>Rolled name: Mailed Scorpions

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>>50166383
>>50166384

My proposal for an Omega Marauders chapter badge.

It can work well in different colors, depending on their color scheme.

Since they're codex adherent, the sergeants would paint the skull of the logo red.

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>>50166505

Could just go with the source material.

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>>50166383
>>50166528

Oh FUCK ME I didnt realize these existed already

>>50166528

My gripe with too many letters on chapter badges is that it doesnt look very imperial and that it reminds us of our irl world, particularly the M.

Come back anons

>>50166452

I vote we roll for chapter flaws. Let's see if the Sons of Guilliman can out "secret shame" the Dark Angels.

On the surface they are otherwise exemplary examples of Guilliman's teachings, but beneath their armor there lies a secret that must be covered up at all cost.

>>50166649
They're Cursed Founding so there probably is

>>50166670
>>50166649

Since they have perfect geneseed and are ultrafags, I suggest the flaw to be more subtle.

Namely that half the chapter they lost was due to them being cowards and fleeing off to undisclosed regions of space.

Imagine honorable Ultramarines that break down in panic when faced with adverse battle results or surrounded (since they're shooty)

This doesnt need to be widespread and hereditary to all marines, just to a specific number of them that is related to why the chapter is at half strength.

Also it's quite interesting in the shame / secret hiding mechanic. Nobody in the imperium can say they have a flaw, but the inner circles of the chapter always carry the shame of the cowardice of certain members that then went rogue due to shame.

I could elaborate much more on this if you guys want.

>>50166649
>>50166670

Wouldn't be Cursed Founding if we just rolled up a normal chapter. Seems like a wasted opportunity there.

Should we roll for geneseed deficiencies or chapter flaws? Or both?

>>50166695

If we used the cowardice card, I can arrange things to keep their real "flaws" interesting.

In the end, they're still part of the "cursed" founding.

>>50166694
>>50166702

We've got a table for that, so we'll see what we roll up.

Although you make a good point that it might be less mutagenic and more psychological, which is what the Chapter Flaws table is for.

Alright, if we're going that direction, let's get a d10 to determine what kind it is, and we can elaborate on it.

Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>50166714

I guess I'll do it?

>>50166762

Chapter Cult
>The practices of the Chapter are weird and probably quite unsavory.

So all together:
>Strategic Prognostication
>36th Millennium Founding (Cursed Founding)
>Ultramarines Progenitor
>Pure Geneseed
>Flaw: Chapter Cult
>Demeanor: Swift As The Wind
>Figure of Legend: Chief Librarian
>Took action against an Eldar Craftworld
>Homeworld: Hive World
>Vacuum/Airless Terrain
>Rule by Stewardship
>Codex Compliant Organization
>Ranged Combat Doctrine
>Beliefs: Totem (and also Primarch?)
>Chapter Strength: Under Strength, probably at a minimum of half strength
>Friendly with the Administratum
>Enemies: Orks
>Name: still working on that one

Each one of these is an open question, begging for more information to be brought together into a unified whole, which paints the picture of a completed chapter. Then maybe we can look towards filling out the totem and name to fit the overarching themes we've explored.

>>50166801

The secret could be related to their weird rituals only, hence why they can still appear to be perfect just judging by the purity of their geneseed.

As I said before, If you guys want I could work a "curse" for this cursed founding that's undelated to their physique

>>50166015
This could fit in well with the earlier roll about being super pure *and* super flawed - fluff it that they found a massive flaw in their geneseed, but the big librarian hero successfully purged the flawed elements or something?

>>50166903
I find it'd to be more appropriate to have it tied to their psyche or fate

>>50166903

Cursed Foundings can sometimes have psychological or metaphysical flaws which are unapparent through simple genetic manifestation, like the Lamenters who have preternaturally bad luck.

Given that geneseed is ever so warp-based given how Space Marines were originally created and tied to their Primarchs, it makes sense that they can sometimes be affected by literal curses.

>>50166937

Could be. Although we rolled a demeanor flaw. We might be able to roll a geneseed flaw if we wish. It could help us inform the demeanor flaw like the the Blood Angels who have a blood cult centered around the Black Rage and Red Thirst.

>>50166801

>The practices of the Chapter are weird and probably quite unsavory.

To be worked with further. Maybe blood sacrifices of LOYAL/innocent imperials to empower the reading of the tarot? It could be an inner circle practice and for battle purposes.

Like ancient greeks, they offer sacrifices to the gods (the emperor in this case) and if they give him good omens they do battle that day

Sacrificing children / loyal imperials would sure be a thing the inquisition would investigate

>Strategic Prognostication

The most interesting choice. Was the chapter really founded because the tarot said so?... or....

>36th Millennium Founding (Cursed Founding)

This could play along very well with their flaw, the weird rituals, and the secret / shame some anon wanted them to carry

>Ultramarines Progenitor

Excellent choice, since the ultrafags are the purest marysues, as opposed to these guys, who are pure but not so pure mentally.

>Demeanor: Swift As The Wind

Perfect. They always SEEM to act without thinking. HOWEVER their secret plays into this perfectly. Its not that they dont think. Its that instead of thinking things, they secretly sacrifice, hence why it appears to outsiders that these "pure" sons of Guilliman act without planification

>Figure of Legend: Chief Librarian

Sacrifices, tarot reading, omens.... It works

>Took action against an Eldar Craftworld

Could work. Eldar are powerful psykers. What if they knew about their practices? Im not the most indicated to write this, it's not my main interest

>Homeworld: Hive World

Same. My own chapter is fleet based and I see no particular attraction to hive worlds.

>>50166965
Ok, so not an (obvious) geneseed flaw - maybe it's more a psychic thing that affects their demeanour, hence why the librarian discovered and purged it, rather than an apothecary?

>>50166965

Remember the rumor that Guilliman was a traitor that worked both against Horus and the Emperor to try to rule himself?

What if.....

Our chapter inherited that metaphysical doubt in the imperium? Like a seed for independence....

>>50166988

Well, it could be that Eldar tried to inform them when they first met, but the Chapter Librarian reacted poorly to this knowledge and struck back out of anger. They left a good deal of destruction behind, and took that as a glorious deed for the Chapter. Ever since they've kept their dark secret from the Imperium, and possibly from the rest of the chapter as a whole.

Their Chapter Cult could be furnished by the Chaplains, who bring in or identify afflicted individuals and deal with them in some manner to keep the flaw from being discovered. The Cult itself could be run by a centralized group of the Chapter, including company captains, chiefs apothecaries, and master chaplains.

Now, what we know of the 21st "Cursed" Founding is that most the geneseeds are chimeric, and that traitor geneseed stocks might have been used at one point. Now, who has a pure geneseed, but manifests psychological flaws and has a propensity for secrecy and appearances? Look, what I'm proposing is that there's a drop of Alpha Legion in these Marine's blood, but they have yet to suspect it. I propose their Chapter Flaw is related to a secret, gnawing paranoia, and their cult is a secret organization within the chapter to deal with those that develop this paranoia to try and contain them.

>>50166801

>Rule by Stewardship

Makes sense, lots of "initiates" could come to the chapter's fortress for "initiation" (sacrifice)

>Codex Compliant Organization

Works very well. We could use the official alternative patterns for the codex company markings (they appear on the latest SM codex)

>Ranged Combat Doctrine

I like the idea of an "overkill" chapter. They dont leave room for doubt and see no honor in fighting xenos. They shoot the fuck out of their enemies before they reach them... and they love nukes.

>Beliefs: Totem (and also Primarch?)

Guilliman could be the jesus/christ man idol, and the "holy see" or something along those lines could be what they worship through the sacrifices. An idea that is more or less the emperor's might or Guilliman's prowess to foresee events and act sharply to them.

>Friendly with the Administratum

Can make sense according to their flaw. They do weird things and that's why they've been exceedingly good with the administratum, the only big power in the imperium that does not particularly care about (perceived) heresy. The administratum offers them a protection from other organizations the chapter needs to stay afloat without their secrets spilling.

>Chapter Strength: Under Strength, probably at a minimum of half strength

Could just be due to a campaign, not everything needs to be a super sekrit happening. I could work on super sekrit stuff though. I'd be cool if they lost that many marines by helping the administratum, because then we show that they gain their favors but at a very high cost sometimes. I'd like our chapter to be very loyal despite what I'm writing.

>Enemies: Orks

I'd like to leave some other anon elaborate on this. Maybe due to their memetical power? the rituals could also deal with this

>Name

As I posted before I vote for Omega Marauders or some other name that has at least one greek letter and that has no earthly animal names.

>>50167143

>As I posted before I vote for Omega Marauders or some other name that has at least one greek letter and that has no earthly animal names.

Well, for alternative Greek letters there's Theta:

>>50167249

Yeah I wish more people contributed, I dont want to flood the thread just with my ideas.

>>50167267

Well, I'll start first and you can do so right after. Might want to leave fewer space in between lines so the posts are more compressed.

I'm seeing a Chapter that started out fine (like many of the 21st Founding), but later got set in paranoia. On the surface, they behave just like good and honored successors to the Guilliman lineage, and even believe just as fanatically as any other Space Marine would in the Emperor and His Imperium. But then it set in and the whole chapter began to suspect it, but also started suspecting their fellows. Eventually, this became so extreme it led to the Chapter turning on and decimating itself.

Ultimately, the Chapter Cult formed from the ashes, the paranoia was covered up, and they keep a watchful eye on their brothers to make sure they don't start showing the signs, sending them to the Chaplain for further ministration and instruction should they begin to decline. This can set most right, as the geneseed of Guilliman is pure and strong, but they do have the those in whom it manifests very extremely, and they have to work to keep those brothers from becoming problems. Although many in the Chapter hierarchy might have manifested this flaw in the extreme, and might even be actively trying to suppress it in others or keep from being found out. Possibly they are all stricken with a vague distrust of one another, trying to guess who has it and who doesn't.

>>50167357

Which could lead to leadership problems or perhaps catastrophic defeats in some battles?

Or maybe the death of their allies due to this distrust?

>>50167357

Like a lot of 21st Founding Chapters, they probably get to live on the edge of their loyalty, either straining the tolerance of the Imperium, or straining themselves from falling off the knife's edge that they walk.

This chapter might be on the edge of falling, even though they maintain an impeccable demeanor. It's fitting with the Ultramarine's themes of statesmanship and rulership, and these marines are the paranoid statesmen afraid of conspiracy within their ranks and the plots of others.

>>50167383

It might well, although they might themselves be throwing themselves into the fray to help so that they are not suspected of heresy or lack of zeal. It could be a flaw that manifests outwardly, but that seems to conflict with their rather normal exterior appearance. It seems more like an internal paranoia, and they stick rigidly to the Codex to try and keep themselves in line and assuage their paranoia, to trust in the wisdom of their Primarch and that its precepts will keep them strong and safe.

Of course, it's when a Marine grows beyond the help of the Codex and the ministrations of the Chaplain that they start becoming what is essentially an Alpha Legionnaire. Given the geneseed purity tables, the Ultramarines have a 10% mutation rate. While a subtle or slightly noticeable uneasiness might manifest in near every marine's demeanor, the afflicted 10% might manifest it in the extreme, which leads them down a bad road after a while.

>>50167437

Thats funny because I never say alpha legionnaires as paranoid at all.

In fact to do what they do I think they need to be the absolutely most trustful, loyal and dedicated marines of any chapter

We need colors and a chapter badge, bois.

My recommendations

-No earthly animals in the badge
-No autistic mix and match of different colors in weird places. Clean surfaces with distinct colors.
-No autistic colors that end up looking like shit
-No over the top logo or scheme. Simple works best

>>50167477

Probably. Of course, it could be the flaw that's fucking it up, so you get none of Alpha Legion's cool confidence with all of their subtlety and subversive ability. Come to think of it, Alpha Legion is probably a semi-Hivemind considering their Primarch worked in concert with himself as two entities. In essence, they ARE all Alpharius.

Or they could be chimeric or experimented with in another manner. They could have tried enhancing their strategic capabilities, but instead created a flaw that causes them to consider so many possible strategic outcomes that they become paranoid as to every weakness in their own strategy. This trying to consider every angle leads them to adopt the Codex rigidly so they just pick from among the best strategies for the projected job and get it done, applying countermeasures and alternative strategies as needed. If they try and improvise they might just take themselves out of the battle for fear of every weakness that they can see.

>>50167547

The problem with paranoia or with the previous mention of weird sacrifices is that GW has set up the lore in such a shitty simplistic way that blood means khorne, paranoia means tzeench, angst means nurgle and being a pervert means slaanesh.

I'd like to make them a loyal chapter without any special snowflake shit and I sure would like for them to not be related to tzeench or tzeench corruption at all.

I think the best chapters are the ones that are simple and "normal" but that have a rich lore.

>>50167544

Well, I like the Greek "psi" symbol, which seems to pick up on the psychology theme we've seemingly established. Simple enough.

The Totem itself could be Guilliman's own inverted Omega, symbolizing their devotion to their Primarch. Or we could think of an animal they could take after, or a totem that's not an animal.

>>50167585

Psi would be easily related to blood rehvenn stuf I think.

I'd rather not use the ultramarine's U unless its just part of the whole thing, like the Sons of Guilliman that have it as part of their shield.

Although an ultramarines Omega with a color scheme that's radically different from the ultramarines could be very interesting.

I still like >>50166505 though. Maybe if I fit that skull inside the Psi? And ad a little inverted omega on the forehead?

>>50167582

They don't have to be Tzeentchian in the least. Who said everything paranoid is Tzeentchian?

Weird sacrifices is just one interpretation of the Chapter Cult roll. It's just a Cult, an organization within the Chapter that either performs certain rights, which may or may not be unsavory and/or suspicious, or convenes for some reason or another outside standard Codex organization to do things that are possibly chapter-related.

Hell, the Emperor's Children (pre-Heresy) had the Palatine Blades, which were just the best swordsmen from across the Legion who got together to swordfight things.

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>>50167585

Praetors of Orpheus, my bad

Their totem should be a trident
Can't think of a chapter with trident heraldry
And underwater cities

As a contributor to this thread who is interested in seeing where it goes, I have to be away from the keyboard for awhile. Keep the thread alive while I'm out, it seems like there's some good ideas brewing just under the surface.

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>>50167642
Emperor's Spears

>>50167694
Goddamit

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>>50167694
Black and neon green coloration/pattern like the Lightning Hoods from FTD.

>>50167642

The world is airless. We could interpret that as underwater, although they have an entry for underwater.

We could theme them off of astronauts, so they take on a pristine white color with black and dark greys underneath and gold highlights. They are on an airless hive world, so they could play up the "space" in Space Marine.

As for their potential impurity on otherwise standard Ultramarine stock, we could look into the space horror genre to look for some inspiration. Although I like the John Carpenter's "The Thing" angle of not trusting or being able to trust one's fellows, although that would play hell with chapter unity. Still, it could have only gotten to that point once, which is why they're at half strength now.

Their homeworld isn't so much a Hiveworld as a Hive Station.

Over the ages, this lonely space dock has experienced layers of grow like a tree, expanding and expanding with each generation, eventually becoming so massive it is seen as a planet in it's own right.

Because I like bringing the SPACE back to space marines.

>>50168951

A Spacehulk in orbit, an artificial moon from humanity's Dark Age. I like it. I guess we're be exploring this theme, which might help inform their character.

Of course, space seems to be the realm of the engineer and the scientist, something more appropriate to the Tau than the Space Marines. Still, the Star Krakens have the boarding action and mariner theme, and let's not infringe on that.

How would these guys operate? EVA? Otherwise airless planets and moons? Moon bases? How do we play up the space theme as something other than aesthetic. I mean, the space program was more about exploration than it was military might (although it was a partially military show of force), so how do we work the aesthetic and theming in a way that makes sense, especially with the rest of their themes?

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>Ultramarines successors
>focus on space

Maybe they took inspiration from Calth?

I suppose that we could also take totemic inspiration not so much with an animal, but with a symbol important to mythology or tradition? Like, instead of literal eagles or some shit, it's The Steward or The Consul, which are representative of Guilliman's history, turning Primarch into Totemic idol and symbol that carries meaning.

>>50169135
>Of course, space seems to be the realm of the engineer and the scientist, something more appropriate to the Tau than the Space Marines. Still, the Star Krakens have the boarding action and mariner theme, and let's not infringe on that.

Have you read the Voidborn fluff from Dark Heresy? DH 1e's corebook was published by GW, so it's indisputably canon.

"Engineers and scientists" is not how I'd describe them, though they certainly do have many Tech-Priests. Physically, the Voidborn tend to be tall and pale; they also tend to be more prone to extremes of luck (both good and bad) than those who hail from a planet, which causes a superstition that they're ill-omened to interact with.

>>50170005

Certainly would be neat to incorporate that into their fluff. Though, would tall and pale voidborn make for good Space Marine candidates?

>>50170016
The book notes that they tend to make better psykers than most, so maybe. The game rules give them a bonus to Willpower and a penalty to Strength, and Willpower would certainly be one of the traits that Space Marines would look for in their recruits.

Maybe their central fortress has its main entrance located after a hundred meters of hard vacuum, and new aspirants are expected to cover the distance without breathing equipment. Or maybe they recruit from the children of the lower decks, where skirmishes against the mutants of the Black Holds are common, and pick the ones who distinguish themselves in battle.

What if we mix the space station and the moon base ideas? A large hive on a moon and the central spire/column is connected to a gigantic DAoT space elevator that reaches up to a space station/fortress where our chapter of marines reside?

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>>50167544
Would something like this be acceptable

>>50171904
I think it works, but maybe we need some blue to indicate that we hail from the ultramarines

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>>50171958
How about now

>>50171750
That would be cool, sort of a geostationary fortress?

>>50171750
>>50172174
Sounds badass as hell. I think it fits the 40k "feel" too.

"The Spire of Stars" is romoured to be older than the hives of [insert name of moon here] since before the long night and the age of strife. It's function has been lost in time, but during the great crusade it was repurposed to ferry troops, goods and other materials up and down. And this contined long after Horus Heresy.
Over the millenia this efficent way to transporting goods have made the moon into a busy trading port for the nearby systems. And in the end of the 36th millennium the Omega Marauders space marien chapter began to use the station and spire as their fortress in order to protect the planet and nearby sectors.

>>50172207
What do you guys think? Tried to write some fluff so I could contribute to the thread

>>50172207
>>50172236
So we have a bunch a blood sacrificing crazies on a potentially older than the imperium space base

>>50172038
Seems nice and simple, I can appreciate that.

>>50172207
yeah

>>50167143

There is an ancient and powerful magic that few know exist.
Magic that pre-dates the very gods of chaos.
Magic, of the Old ones.

When the Kroks were being engineered by the old ones, their supreme mastery of sorcery allowed them to infuse an entire species with a magical and sorceress will that can bend reality itself. A fine tool for a species made to fight against C'tan and their un-living kin.

The darkest most redacted and hidden corners of the administrator are aware of documents written long before the dogma of the Imperium that detail speculation of such a race of 'old ones'.

an on an airless world with strange runes, black inert rock and Alien structures they found strange markings that after decades of translation appeared to detail A spell that can alter reality itself.

But it was more complicated than that, you see this spell doesn't bend water into lead, or turn air to gold. No, this is a more subtle magic, ever so slightly altering the laws of probability. That fifth shot in a row hitting rather than just four, that little bit of shrapnel missing you when in the blast radius of a frag grenade.

When a million orks gather reality itself alters to suit their barbarous ways, guns that should not function firing and wounds that should kill only wounding

This power needed to be used by the imperium, or at least that was the goal of a powerful lord inquisitor at the time.

He (or she) took this knowledge and, in the wild experimentation of the 36th (cursed) founding altered the Omophagea with ancient sorceries supposed to be able to 'alter reality" in an attempt to create reality bending marines.

The results were rather more... Complicated than had been anticipated.
The Omophagea usually allowed marines to gain memories, and with the sorceress alteration to the organ the effect it had once had was changed.

In these marine the Omophagea took the beliefs of whomever was consumed, and made them statistically more probable to manifest.

>more?

>>50172038
>>50171904

Do you like the white?

I'd stay away from white and blue personally, since they are very obvious Ultramarine colors.

I'd use red because its so different from the Ultramarines, then with some touches of blue and white to remind of the Ultramarines.

Where would you anons like the company markings to be displayed? According to the codex we can have it in:

-Helmet color
-Color stripe on helmet
-Shoulderpad trim (with variations, including in inset)
-Knees
-Aquila.

>>50172918

Yeah dude but that's extremely HERETICAL

THe sacrifices I proposed are more oriented to the Emperor, wether they work for real or not, to give them a feel of good, loyal marines with some weird as fuck practices.

>>50172968
Consider the option of marines that eat a small group of extremely loyal and brainwashed chapter serfs before any fight, and are rewarded with BEING as powerful as someone brainwashed to think you're an angel of death THINKS you are.

As far as heretical practices go, they don't burst into flames and they don't have bones coming out their arms, it's secret because it heretical in the first place anyway!

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>>50172968
pretty sure all the Marines in the 36th got fiddled with in some way heretical

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>>50173007
I can only imagine what they did to the Fire Hawks

>>50172931
Technically Speaking, Orange is the opposite of Blue.

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>>50173064
depends which blue

>>50172207

Would you anons like "Star Marauders" as a name?

Or Star + something else.

I really like the Marauders thing though.

>>50172995

I like this.

Some sort of cannibalism.

BUT

We have the mortifactors that are Ultramarine descendants and perform very similar rituals and are considered nothing short of chaos marines by the Ultrafags

>>50173107
What about Stellar Marauders, or Cosmic Marauders?

>>50173064

I'd prefer a metallic orange, or orangish bronze if you decide for orange

>>50173118
>mortifactors

The difference is nobody knows about these guys eating people.

The Administratum make sure the sacrificed vanish off all paperwork. They never existed at all.

If anyone starts digging around, their buddies in the administratum let them know about it.

Should I write some short groundlaying fluff for the hive moon?

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How would this work for a "Star Marauders" or "Star _____" chapter

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I made other variations that I like better

>>50173442
maybe make the U black

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>>50173528

Its in reference to the Ultramarines.

Here's a color scheme.

Silver and golden marking on shoulderpad.

It really gives the vibe of a "good" and "pristine" chapter that can (apparently) do no evil

>>50173586
i kinda like This one bette
>>50172038

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Shoulderpad insets are white, the rest is bright silver. it's not very noticeable in this painter

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Last

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Another color scheme

Guns could look good with black or silver casing as well

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>>50173778

This one could work for this scheme

Nobody interested?

Wee need more ideas from different people

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>>50174719
I just don't know what to add Anon

>>50174751

Well I made the last to color scheme and all the chapter badges, plus the long fluff posts.

Just contribute with your own ideas or say why other's ideas work or dont work

Or just bumb the thread from time to time

>>50174790
I could write some fluff about the station/moon the chapter use as a home?

>>50174802
Then do so

Extremus Progenitus Alpha
Blood Angels offshoot, but more accurately they rank above them. But they're secret due to the Inquisition. They rank above them, though. Blood Angels are beneath them due to them being founded as a covert chapter, only sent out to the harshest battlefields.

They're lead by Severus Deng and he's got more victories than any other Space Marine. Wields two chainswords, one in each hand. That's the real space marine chaper.

It sounds average but I've spent weeks on it. I've got this file folder full of background fluff and stuff like that.

>>50174955

Special snowflake mary sues are always complete shit

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>>50174834
In the Othos cluser, a dual star system lies the barren and airless moon of Zenon in arbit around a small gas giant called the "Eye of Othos".

The planet wasn't colonized by Imperium, but sometime during the Dark Age of Technology humans built a massive orbital spire for reasons lost in time. But at the height of the God Emperors great crusade the planet was found by an explorator fleet, with no signs of human life on the moon. The resettlement of Zenon was postponed due the Horus Heresy.
It would take until M31, after the Horus Heresy that the planet would be colonized by the Imperium of man. The settlers started to build what would become the foundations of the early hives on Zenon.
Zenon would be the staging points and resupply depo for many Imperial fleets and trading ships due to the use of the orbital spire that has recived the name "The Spire of Stars" as it at several times a year stand directly infront of the dual stars. The spire has made Zenon grow even faster, and by the year M36 the entire northern hemisphere was covered in urban areas; everything from hive spires, manufactorum compunds, maglev tracks, and hab blocks.
At the end of M36 the [name not decided yet] space marine chapter made the top of the spire their new HQ in order to protect the planet and the neighbouring sectors.

Every decade inside the giant spire the space marines will hold a parade for the people to show them that the God Emperor of Mankind and Roboute Guilliman watches over them and to show them that the Imperium of Man is here to stay.

When it comes to Imperial tithe, Zenon will send of men and women to the Astra Militarum along with large quantities of Tungsten and Iron mined from deep into the moon to supply the Forges of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

What do you think, borrowed some stuff some Anons had written earlier, but I think it turned out great.

>>50175279
Looks good senpai, I like it

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>>50175381
Thanks. I am not the best writer, but I try my best.

on another note, how do we sacrifice people for the glory of the emperor?

My idea is that we strap them to a chair kill them and then let the blood flow into some kind of pattern, kinda like Ronan did in Guardians of the Galaxy.

>>50175549

The problem is it must not be related to Khorne or must not invoke khorne in any way.

I'm in favor of a psychich that is put in trance to forecast omens and then the higher ups ritually kill him and eat him.

>>50172931
It helps making our chapter look nice and totally not like heretical murder-cultists.

>>50175549
>>50175587
How about it is a ritual suicide?

Just trying to brainstorm ideas here

>>50172306

Where are you getting the blood sacrifices part?

>>50175635
things like the fact that as of this post, the word sacrifice appears 15 times in this thread.
also we have been discussing the murder of loyal imperial citizens for a while now.

>>50175622

Yeah, maybe the sacrifice of scout initiates as well, although it seems pointless that they'd waste so much effort in creating a space marine to just kill him.

Or maybe they sacrifice xenos and enemies they capture before the battles with said races and eat them.

Like they keep eldar to kill and eat to gain "omens" before a battle against eldar etc....

>>50175680
>>50175635

It was just an idea I had to make some fluff around the fact that we have rolled that the chapter's flaw is that they have pretty fucking weird practices / cult.

>>50176016

I like these >>50173778 colors with this >>50173432 emblem. Not a fan of the all white, personally.

>>50175681
There is the omophagea thing where they gain memories through eating. What if the ritual was eating falling battle-brothers (after removal of the progenoid glands, of course)? And what if they did it to honor any space marine, not just their own? Stealing other chapters' dead to eat them.

>>50166163
Except that skies affected by this would actually be grey.

>>50175549
It's airless, right? Toss them out.

>>50178404

I agree to this, but we should make up other fucked up rituals to justify our roll.

Like a REALLY fucked up ritual that is preferably non-sexual

>>50176016
>>50177453