Horus Heresy General /hhg/

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>>50144900
First for the Omnissiah.

Show me your wips. Naoh.

>>50144900
Help me please.

EC, IW, SoH, or TS.

>>50144900
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11458318
>Mortarion in last place
>Magnus in second
Fucking witches.

>>50145004
I'm proposing IW because I know you so well and you've told us how you want to play and what you like.

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>>50144985
Finally got some color on these guys. Mostly highlighting left to do

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Are there any fluff blurbs about the Anvilus backpack other than this?

>>50145058
Ño

>>50145038
This is my first time posting in the /hhg/. Are these legions asked about a lot? Still, thanks for the suggestion.

>>50145089
Yeah there are a lot of IW players here.

>>50145089
>r th
No, as in, it's sort of hard to give you a meaninful non-meme answer if you don't give us something to work with. Try reading https://1d4chan.org/wiki/.../Space_Marine_Legion_List_(30k) to know what's special about each legion.
Because let me tell you, all of them did all kinds of warfare.
Sieging ECs and assassination IWs are both valid.
The question boils down to "what do you want from your dudes?"
>>50145112
Don't believe this Alpharius' word.

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>>50144900
I demand mathhammer against Primarchs! He has defeated Sigismund, now for the bigger fish!

(Currently Un-)Named Archmagos Reductor, 400

BS5 WS5 S5 T6 W4 I4 A3 Ld10 2+/3++

Unit Composition:
1 (Unique)

Unit Type:
Infantry (Character)

Wargear:
Mechanicum Protectiva
Cyber-Familiar
Augury Scanner
Abeyant*
Djinn-Skein
Machinator Array*
Master Crafted Paragon Blade
Melta Bombs
Four Cyber-Occularis
Rad Grenades
Power Fist
Lightning Gun

*Stat bonuses already included in profile

Warlord Trait: Dread Rites**
*The Warlord, and any unit they join, both cause Fear and are immune to it's effects, and have the Adamantium Will special rule.


Special Rules:
Independant Character
Stubborn
Battlesmith
Master of Destruction
Bodyguard
Relentless
Move Through Cover
Very Bulky
It Will Not Die
Hardened Armor
Fear
Fearless
Adamantium Will
Eternal Warrior
Blessed Electromancy*
Unseen Strike**

*Named Archmagos Reductor was noted for his morbid fascination with the lightning weaponry of the Thallax Cohorts and Krios Battle Tanks he commanded, as well as that of the Knight Magaera, for their effectiveness at disintegrating foul Xenos during the Great Crusade. He was sucessfuly able to make them more even more powerful, but lamented that he could not improve their armor piercing capabilities. An Ordo Reductor force with Named Archmagos Reductor as the warlord may spend 25 points per unit armed with Lightning Guns and/or Lightning Cannons to increase their Strength by 1, to a maximum of S8. Named Archmagos Reductor's own Lightning Gun has the upgrade applied at no cost.

**The character and their unit add +1 to their initiative characteristic in the phase they charge.

Loyalist
Named Archmagos Reductor may only be taken in a Taghmata Omnissiah or Ordo Reductor variant force, and counts as an Archmagos Reductor.

>>50145153

He apparently could barely beat Sigismund.

He's gonna get wrecked by any primarch or Scoria.

>>50145153
Better entertain yourself in naming him. Don't create a wasteland and call it peace ;^)

>>50145183
True.

Non-tranfigured Lorgar maybe?

I'm just interested in the mathhammer and seeing how a somewhat buffed character that you yourself can make for 400 points can do.

>>50145200
Nay, minion, create a wasteland and call it a victory for the Omnissiah.

>>50145228
Anon, we already know the most powerful player-made character is a Blood Angel Praetor with the sword of double wounding and the Instant Death advance. Blood angels will get stuff more powerful than Shattered Legion Suzerains using the Berzerker Assault RoW and nobody seems to notice.

>>50145153

Where's he getting EW from

>>50145272
He rented it from Decima Invictus for shits and giggles.

>>50145271
I dunno. I think the base version of this guys might be able to beat that.

>>50145272
See >>50145305

>>50145331

At that point he's just a weird home brew character and is just a demonstration on taking a funny idea past its point of entertainment

Have (You) noticed the Alpha Legion operates in a manner similar to Jean stealer cults, if less rapey?
>Infiltrate society
>Consolidate your position
>Destabilize the opposition
>Place a beacon to attract the main force
>>50145331
I think he saw it, man.
>I think the base version of this guys might be able to beat that.
Nah. The sword of double wounding, man. It could kill you if you didn't have EW before you were able to swing back. You see, EW is the most powerful rule a character can have in 30k.
Remind me again why Salamanders (and to some extent IF) can have it but not the Mechanicum and Iron Hands?

>>50145143
I'm well versed in the aspects/lore of each. I was just hoping for some off the cuff answers to break the deadlock I'm having.

I suppose I like the shooty aspects of IW, the rushdown manuveurability of EC, and the idea of SoH being the posterboys of the Heresy. I like the lore for each.

>>50145429
it's almost like that is a standard way of doing covert ops or something wow

>>50145638
Naaah, the RG doesn't operate like that.
They scout first and then they outright murder you. No consolidation, no disruption. Just ded.

>>50145680

Yeah and which legion was reduced to chapter size in one battle and which legion became the largest after the heresy

>>50145732
Please don't bully the birds

>>50145272
Anon thought his special snowflake wasn't special enough.
And now he spams these threads with him.

>>50145732
>one legion was on the wrong side of a 7-on-3 outnumbering, including surprise backstab and a blockade in space to prevent escape, and was still tough/skillful enough to get away
>the other legion was on the other side of that mismatch, with all those advantages, and couldn't get the job done, the useless shits

>>50145870

HIGHLIGHTS

ON

FUCKING

PRIMER

>>50145877
This.
It's has devolved into shitposting now.

>>50145905

>lose 96% of your legion

J-jokes on y-you guys, our primarch lived

>>50145732
(Yours)
Wasn't it like 8 vs 3? And they fucked with their WE WB and IW pursuers to no end, went full Predator on them.
Corax even does the rip-your-spine-off thingy on a Dreadnought

>>50145905
>with all those advantages, and couldn't get the job done, the useless shits
anon they literally allowed the raven guard to get away because ya boi alpharius knew corvus would get freaky in the emperors gene lab and he wanted that information
the alpha legion never would have fell for istvaan unless it was just as planned because knowing stuff is their whole schtick

Let's talk SA. SAfags, I summon you.

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>>50145905

>implying Alpharius didn't let them escape purely so he could further Pepe troll Corax-Wojack into giving him the key to unlimited astartes

>>50145953

Does anyone even Solar Auxilia?

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>>50145930
>>50145945
>>50145968
>alpharius is such a mastermind guys
Remind me how that's working out?

>>50145972
I have seen maybe two SAfags in these threads. I am surprised honestly.

>>50145997
B-but... victory...

>>50146009
Imperial Militiafags are even rarer.

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>>50145905
>>50145945
>Alpha legion are so useless they accidently saved Corax
Fucking snakes

>>50145997

Literally a psychic gestalt that lives in every legionnaire now

He Obiwan kenobi'd that shit

>>50146034
I would edit Alpharius' portrait to say "The Devil isn't mocked" myself, but I'm phoneposting right now. Could the unbroken chain do me that favor?

>>50144886
Where is it stated that Maloghurst wore black? I had only listened to Twisted so I may not have heard it.
I was thinking of adding dark gray here and there, maybe with some lodge members of XIX and V added in Reaver or Despoiler squads, those who said "fuck it" and joined the Warmaster's cause.
I like the SoH green but don't have the required paints atm, and I should have started yesterday as there are two BaCs collecting dust on the shelf.

>>50146049
See kids! This is kind of thinking is what reading too many black library novels gets you.

>>50146049
Is there any legion that has more PLOT on their side than the Alpha Legion?

>>50145732
Which legion has an alive primarch, and which legion got cornered by the dorner.

>>50146083
I think SoH High command and elite units wear black, but then Loken is depicted wearing verdigris and suddenly he's Luna wolf white.
SoH colour denotations are all Chaos

>>50146102
Out of interest, have any of the more stupid BL bits and pieces like
>cabal
>perpetuals
turned up in the HH black books, or is based bligh grenade pretending they don't exist?

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>>50146121

Scars

>>50146102
>one of many is actually the canonical rule for post gestalt Alpharius possessing one of his own legionnaires

>>50146128

>which legion has an alive primarch

Alpha legion

>which legion got cornered by the dorner

Dorn himself

>>50145429
>Remind me again why Salamanders (and to some extent IF) can have it but not the Mechanicum and Iron Hands?
ferrus manus was right, the machine is weak.

>>50146128
What Primarch gifts Inferno pistols to well behaved children and which one was killed by 3E Chaos space marines?

OK, I made a list I might want to eventually work towards. Plan is for a fairly balanced mechanicum force with lots of varied units so as to be interesting and avoid cheese.

Xana II Darkmech (3000/3000)

Age of Darkness FoC - Ordo Reductor (2165)

HQ
Magos Dominus w/ Augury Scanner + Servo Arm (90pts)

Magos Prime Ordinator w/ Augury scanner, Cortex controller and mastercrafted Graviton Imploder (180 pts)

Magos Reductor w/ Abeyant, Augury scanner, machinator array, cyber-familliar and Cortex Controller (210 pts)

Troops

2x20 Adsec w/ Carapace and Fearless (100pts each)

2x3 Thallax w/ Destructor and Photon Thruster (175 pts each)

Elites

Tech-Priest Auxilia w/ Enginseer, Cortex controller and 2 servo-arm servitors (90pts)

Fast Attack

2x1 Vulturax Strato-automata (175 pts each)

Heavy Support

Myrmidon Destructors w/ 3 Graviton Imploders (240 pts) in Triaros (135 pts)

2x Ordo Reductor AT battery w/ 1 tank, medusa cannon, machine spirit, siege plating and pintle twin-linked bolters (160pts each)

Legio Cybernetica Allied Detatchment (835)

HQ

Anacharis Scoria on Abeyant (315 pts)

Troops

1x2 Castellax, both have Darkfire Cannon and Advanced Targeting (280 pts)

Fast Attack

1x3 Vorax w/ poison ammo and frag grenades (240 pts)

Total 3000pts

Scoria runs with the Vorax, Reductor goes with the Enginseer and buffs the artillery, Ordinator drops one Reductor-buffed barrage then joins the Myrmidons in their Triaros, Dominus goes with the Castellax and casts cybertheurgy on them and the flyers. Sound decent or am I missing some important thing? Still new to 30k, this list is possibly something to work towards with some corrections.

>>50146158
>one of many is actually the canonical rule for post gestalt Alpharius possessing one of his own legionnaires
>the pale spear and pythian scales materialise out of thin air when he does this
Fucking stupid.

>>50146173
Which primarch has their own unique detachment, legion rules and relics in 40k, and which one cries incessantly over what they lost from 3.5e?

>>50146158
>Scars
But how? Evading the Death Guard and jobbing Mortarion "literally who?" doesn't seem like that great a feat

>>50146201
Ferrus Manus, Russ, the Lion and Sanguinius. And the RG and WS. All of them have relucs too.
I remember the IF snowflakes, the ever-compliant psyker loving Black Templars' 1000 marines.

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>>50146205
>jobbing Mortarion
I wonder when will he kick some ass...

>>50146205
Probably a yiff pissed off they let them get fucked by the alpha legion at Allaxes

IMO the Scars should of joined in on the fight and helped the based meme legion finally put an end to the furry legion

>>50146195

That's literally what happens, same with the instrument and exodus

>>50146205

They're just plain better than everyone else

>>50146278
Retcon library will change it so daemon Mortarion ganks Dorn at the siege

Screenshot this shit, you know it's right

>>50146149
I think the Grenade Man is making sure of that.
>>50146031
I'd start up two SA armies if I had the money and time.

>>50146278
When he gets his own book. So never ever
>>50146283
Id think they'd be more salty about having to be bailed out by the Dark Angels
>>50146290
Aren't the Scars the smallest legion?

>>50146300
Morty was a daemon after the Siege, and that would imply they'd let Morty have any diginity left.

>>50146290
>they're just plain better than everyone else

How? Like half their legion went traitor

Like it matters, scars are still best legion

Anyone know how long until those power scythes are available? Want to put off my order to save shipping.

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>>50146283
>should of
I assume their infantery was busy fighting Perterabo's Monsterous creatures for the Emporer?

>>50146283
Alpha Memers are disgusting. Not too long ago they were the true shitposters. Everyone loved to blame TS/SW fags for arguing about their primarchs but I guarantee you the Alpha Memers were behind it all.

>>50146181
>avoid cheese.
>Scoria
Also.
>Scoria is present but not in charge

>>50146330
Just as planned

>>50146311
No that's the RG or the Dust Bunnies of Prospero.

>>50146283
>AL
>Based

>>50146300
May your dubs ring true, anon!
>>50146311
>When he gets his own book
His short story, Daemonology, actually is about how he loses even more dignity.
>Aren't the Scars the smallest legion?
Hell naw. Small legions were the TS, SW, and the EC and DG after Istvaan.

>>50146360
>EC and DG after Istvaan
I'm pretty sure they went into recruitment overdrive.

>>50146339
Scoria is there (with no transport, so he can't really get up in their faces) since eveyone else always brings primarch+friends, so I do need something to stop Angron just showing up and murderising everyone before I can shoot him down. Also the local dick keeps bringing Guilliman to 1600 games, and screw him.
Also, does he have to be the Warlord and can I make him Warlord in a secondary detachment, or do I have to reshuffle everything to have LC as primary? Not exactly sure of the rules re. Warlords in 30k.

>>50146330
you see anon if we shitpost ironically hard enough it will eventually kill of the real shitposters , thus ensuring a future without shitposting
alpha legion is actually guarding the quality of this thread by lowering it
just as planned

>>50146383
True. I should have specified it was right after Istvaan, where they numbered about less than 70 000.

>>50146398
Who plays 1600 point games?

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>>50146400
It's still the same though.
>>50146408
I'm surprise Morty could get some new kids from Barbarus given the numbers of recruits taken and the fact that he only uses Barbarus as a recruitment pool. I guess he used more fertility drugs than on his homeworld's population than the other Primarchs did to theirs.

>>50146400
>Alpha memers believe that.

No surprise really, picking the shittiest Legion with zero character development or anything other than PLOT for PLOT's sake is a clear sign of dim intelligence.

>>50146428
People who are in a local GW full of new 30k players who just bought Calth, and so have almost exactly 1600 pts of minis.
I want to start 30k Mechanicum for something a bit different and also so he and the other vets might have to change their armies slightly from "Everyone and every gun shoots or hits at S6 AP3/2". Most of the vets are cool, especially DGbro, IHbro and WEbro. Was planning on 2 Medusae, 6 Thallax, 2 Magos and 20 Thralls as a starting army, then adding 1 Vulturax and going from there. Is my list any good for fighting marines?

>>50146322

>half the legion went traitor

Yeah and unlike Lionel and Peterabo Khan bitch slapped that half of his legion back into compliance

>>50146400
You might be on to something

I am Assfartius

>>50146490
You're cancer.

>>50146138
Maloghurst may be an exception, but as far as I know only the 1st company wears black, and they had done so when they were still Luna Wolves, if memory serves. Not even the Mournival wore black unless serving in 1st Co.

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>>50146490

>>50146512
Mal probably gets to wear the black and red since he's Horus's equerry.

>>50146290
The instrument is constructed, I refuse to believe every single alpha legionnaire is carrying around the components to build a xenos artifact that pre-dates the eldar.

>>50146540
That's the part I forgot to add in the post.

>>50145732
Salamanders
Ultramarines.

Forgeworld prices went up. The Brexit discount honeymoon is officially over.

>>50145877
>>50145920
>tfw only posted it twice
Not lying, guy who's posting it isn't me. I do find it amusing though.

>>50146149
Why the fuck would something that was known to quite literally 3-10 people in the entire galaxy show up in a history book?

>>50146638
>source
>my ass

>>50146646
Call him Otto Octavius.

>>50146763
You can literally go on the forgeworld site and check the prices you mong.

It's not a big increase though. Despoiler squads went up by a pound, for example.

>>50146468
to be fair i picked alpha legion because i want a traitor legion and they are the only ones left that aren't Saturday morning cartoon villain evil since iron warriors and thousand sons are already taken at my store

>>50146763
He's right, the Mageara and other Knights went up £5.

help me /hhg/, I need a loyalist legion that looks good in MkIII, I have leftover prospero models.

>>50146883

Iron hands

Also dubs

>>50146854
Have you thought about reading more than just their Codex: CSM description? Because every legion has depth to it within smaller groups.

>>50146883
sallies and iron hands of course

>>50146883
Iron Handers

>>50146883
Obligatory Iron Warriors post.

>>50146828
>>50146870
Looks like they have increased indeed, I just scrolled through New section at firs.
What's going to be the excuse this time?
Their quality dropped down recently, first the new shitcast knight heads, then an anon gets half cured Mastodon.

>>50146883
All of them.
MkIII-chan is best girl

>>50146913
>>50146914
>>50146901
I'm not interested in their rules, or much of their fluff. Which is funny, since i Have Mechanicum as well as Skitarii and Cult Mech.

Do smurfs look good in MKIII? theyre mostly going to be an allied detachment for the mechanicum force I have.

>>50146922
>>50146951
Iron Warriors got dubs.

Both Iron legions are Sworn Brothers with Mechanicum, dunno about UM though.

>>50146951
Also should Note that i want the Tartaros terminators from the set in a loyalist scheme.

>>50145997
Thats the second story he dies in, so probably pretty well.

>>50147019

What was the first

>>50147077
rawbutt girlyman kills him in another book, forget which one. happens chronologically after i believe.

>>50147093

That's been the story since 2nd edition where Roboute kills Alpharius during the scouring although of course, the only two people left to witness his death were Roboute and Alpharius so guess what probably happened

>>50147093
That wasn't a book. That's ancient lore. Lore which the Ultramarines don't even have evidence that it happened.

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>>50146290
>same with the instrument and exodus
No, anon, when the Exodus Protocol is activated the subject immediately alters their bolter by constructing a gravitic acceleration apparatus using materials commonly available to members of the Legiones Astartes.

>>50147152
Alpharius is Roboute, probably.

>>50144224 #
2 5man squads with volkite charger and claw on 3, volkite and chainfist on 2, lead by chaplains with chain fist and lightning claw (2 specialist weapons so +1 attack

>>50147152
What happened was neither was there because the battle didn't actually happen.

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>>50147093
Maybe if Roboute had come to Terra like a good boy he could have had his oh so precious Primarch kill.

Has anyone tried converting the Calth Chaplain into something that doesn't look like ass?

>>50146883
Alpha Legion :^)

>>50147216
>what is warp storm

Which Primarch's traits would you most look for in a gf.

>>50147202
Alternatively he killed omegon and the two genero-primarchs finally rid the world of the worst plot twist the abortion heresy authors pulled out of their asses.

>>50146181
Standard irritating bump for attention. Would like to make my first FW orider for 30k soon, despite the irritating price bump, but it comes to like £8 on a reasonable order, so NBD.

>>50147346
If they don't have literal angel wings, I won't give them the time of day.

>>50147346
11:59 pm dark.

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>>50144985
May do some more work tonight if I have the time

>>50147347
Or there is still a third Alpha Legion primarch out there nobody knows much about yet.

Or there was actually only a single primarch for the XX that creates lesser versions of himself by injecting others with his blood, much like how Alpharius/Omegon can enable their marines to perfectly impersonate them by feeding them their blood, and this Alpha primarch overlord has actually never been found but is still out there running the show with (most of) the Alpha Legion.

>>50145018
This thread is ours witch
>weathered deathguard guy pointing at TS player
No this thread is theirs
>TS player pointing at an oncoming horde of badly painted iron warriors
SOME GRAPHICS GUY DO THIS

>>50147346
A functional brain is a good start, but that seems to be too much to ask since smartphones are a thing.

Social media is very good at killing indipendent thought it seems :^)

>>50145089
It's more so you said 'pick muh legion', not 'I love artillery are endless swarms of men but hate pertuabos character, I like playing the arch traitor but prefer a more organised legion'

>>50145200
If you have created a wasteland then that land has been consecrated for the Church of the Crater

>>50145271
The only reason Sanguinius doesn't become Primarch is because he didn't bottom like Horus did, Sanguinius and his legion probably are the best legion

>>50145877
It's not that bad, although I would prefer if it was in a seperate thread but we rolled him in this thread

>>50147501
What is you create a wasteland, then build multiple, devastating, glorious, golden fortress on it?

>>50145429
Because real niggas sit through the struggle which is oh so real, and IF recruit from some melanin rich worlds

Was Alpharius charismatic?
I like to think he was, because every legionary was ready to give of himself what was asked of him, "everything".

>>50147628

Alpha Legion are oddly enough probably the most internally loyal legion to the point of willingly having a civil war because it was the best way to advance their own cause

>>50147628
All the Primarchs were charismatic.
Angron and Curze could have talked the clothes of your back, if it wasn't easier to tear/flay them off.

>>50147643
I don't think that is the case, it could be that the misinformation web made it possible for the legion to split out in two without much trouble.
It is possible that splitting it in two was the actual aim of Alpharius, so that it's in position to influence the future no matter which way the shit went down, the only certainty being it will go down no matter what.

>>50147628
>Was Alpharius charismatic?
The only primarch who thought he wasn't a complete shitheel was Horus.

If we're going by generic RPG stats, he's high int, low wis, no cha.

Me and a few of my buddies are getting into 30k and one of them is going to run a BA Day of Revelation lists with two Storm Eagles, a Fire Raptor, and two Avenger Strike Fighters plus the usual assault marines. Should I bother committing to things like Deredeos and Mortis dreads or commit to crushing him on the ground game?

>>50147745
Intentional fucking like greeting all the other traitor primarchs on Vengeful Spirit after the Dropsite Massacre with the imperial aquila sign notwithstanding, that definitely imposes negative modifiers.
For example, when signing up Silonius to taku up the command, it seems more than simply indoctrination or warp-based connection between the primarchs and their marines.

>>50146468
Some people just want Operator marines, anon. Plot for the Plot god is just a side effect.
>>50147336
>Who are the Blood Angels
Sanguinius was the Imperator Regis of Imperium Secundus and he got to Terra to hold the dooooor.
>>50147619
Huh? What?
>>50146854
>i picked alpha legion because i want a traitor legion and they are the only ones left that aren't Saturday morning cartoon villain evil since iron warriors and thousand sons are already taken at my store
What about the Death Guard?

>>50147821
Should probably also mention that I'm deciding between Iron Warriors and Sons of Horus, but I'm leaning towards the boys in green since we already have anot IW player

>>50147864
You could play traitor iron warriors, they're pretty rare.

>>50147821
>>50147864
Xiphon.

I need a standard bearer to for a Command Squad on bikes, anyone got any ideas for a plain banner to kitbash with FW's Outrider kit?

>>50147864
Go Sons of Horus for a change. Iron Warriors are overdone and bland.

>>50147821
Yes, you do need to shoot down his planes or at least force him to be cautious with them. If they were just transports you could focus on your ground game, but he'll be capable of destroying a lot of your army from above.

Xiphons are only good against flyers... might be necessary in this case. I'd just get one because of their cost - use Mortises and Deredeos for the rest of your anti-air. They'll be useful against ground targets too.

>>50148035
>xiphons are only good against flyers
that's not true at all, they excel against flyers because of their fuck your jink missiles, but they can bust tanks fairly effectively with 2 TL lascannons and the fancy missile launcher if they get side armour

>>50147997
The plastic venerable dreadnought comes with a quite nice plain banner. The command squad set also has one I think, but that one might be a bit large for a dude on a bike.

>>50147864
Go Coils-Proteus w/EAA-Skorr(-1 to reserve WT).

>>50147851
thyphon is awesome, i would save a ton on not having to buy helmets and torsos as they look great in mk3, fw deserves credit for knowing how a scythe is wielded and i love their scheme but i'm not confident enough in my ability to pull of the dirty white and weathering effects

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>>50148014

>>50148209
Death Guard are remarkably easy to paint.

Does anyone have a MkIV body and a MkIII helmet? I'm interested on seeing how they'd go together.

>>50145043
that's actually pretty good start

>>50147864
SoH look great, especially against red armies. It's a good contrast. It's also a better matchup - IW are too slow and can be picked apart by very mobile armies, and their morale bonus against shooting won't help once those assault squads reach you.

>>50146479
Yes, possibly too good. Did they ever tone down the Vulturax's provisional rules? That and the Medusae will give people fits. It'll be good to push the meta a bit, but try to be nice about it.

>>50146311
>Aren't the Scars the smallest legion?
No, just the least advertised. We don't actually have a legion size but it sounds like the Thousand Sons and Raven Guard were smaller.

Yes, they did get a lot of help ("plot"). Omegon made sure they heard about Isstvan. It took a lot of loose connections and luck to get them back to Terra (though they did lose a lot of important characters in the process, so it's not like they had it easy). They were fairly close to turning traitor and then close to not making it back to Terra. But their story was well-written, so who cares? Nothing was sudden enough to feel deus-ex-machina.

>>50148014
>>50148035
Thanks for the advice guys, I think I'll commit to SoH and pick up a couple of Xiphons, I prefer how to look compared to Primaris fighters anyways and I already have a Leviathan to take care of any spartans

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>>50148266
well shit i just looked it up and this way looks 10x better than the betrayal at calth video
thankfully i'm doing a group order for fw and we haven't ordered yet
now i just have to decide if i wan't to spend the money i saved of helmets on deathshroud termies, thyon or mortarion

>>50148432
OK, since starting 30k I have apparently made several accidentally cheesy lists by complete accident. Slightly annoying, but nice to knwo everything is somewhat more level.
And AFAIK the Vulturax was never changed, it's main job for me is to shoot at and annoy the hell out of Angron's pet stormwhatever with Haywire.
I might try one game like that and switch out the artillery for something a little easier to fight if it goes too hard for the vet players.

>>50147346
Russ.
Love of furries.

>>50147346
That's bloody easy.
One soul, two bodies.

>>50147346
Alpharius. Then everyone will be my gf. Including myself. And twins!

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>>50148286
Probably quite a lot like this.

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>>50147346
Sanguinius.
>absolutely gorgeous
>idealistic and principled
>can kick your ass in a fight
>fucking angel wings
Literally 10/10 GF.

>>50148606
I love Imperial Fists, but goddamn do their unique helmets look stupid.

>>50148496
It's not cheese, but artillery is a hard counter to a BaC list and the Vulturax being a monstrous creature is a genuine problem. It's good to get BaCers to realize they need more than just footsloggers, but don't pound them too hard.

I have my IF finished and now it's time to go full on bitterness: In a week I will have 40 Tactical Marines (2x20man blobs), 10 Cathaphractii + Cyclone bits (planned as Fulminators) and 10 Tataros Terminators coming. I already have a Praetor, that I built and painted for fun.

What do I get next, to get to 2k Points and be not that competitive but somewhat effective list? Medusas, Mortars, a Spartan?

Looks like Alacrán tried to smuggle Alpharius on a plane

http://ktla.com/2016/11/07/passengers-find-snake-on-a-plane-to-mexico-city/

>>50148731
allied Minotaurs

>>50148671
Oh, that wouldnt be for the BaC players, I'd happily take them on without that and with Thallax and Thralls as mainstays, maybe a Krios Venator. That is for playing more developed armies, and also because the Vulturax looks damn cool.

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>>50148669
I quite like them in a different scheme. I think if you paint the bars a different colour to the rest of the helmet it looks better.

>>50147691
Angron, at least ADB's Angron, was crazy charismatic. Unfortunately he had a bad case of nails so everyone around him turned into battle crazy, blood-mad lunatics.

>>50148753
Kek

>>50148754
Wow, that was very productive.

>>50148766
>drilled plasma pistol
>no plasma shine
REEEE

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>>50148606
Forgot that FW demos their helmets on MkIV bodies. I guess with some spikes on top they'd work as old timey Death Guard in MkIV with III helmets.

>>50148839
>1 magos 1 thallax two units of 1 mintaurs RoW IronFire
HAPPY

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>>50148753

>>50147628
>He still thinks there are Legionaries in the Alpha Legion
Horus showed his Abbadon to Alpharius and Alpharius was like, "Cool idea, I'm going to need like 20,000 of those clone-son things."

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>>50148922
>Horus showed his Abbadon to Alpharius
>The Devil was not mocked

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>>50148841
Here's your (you)

>>50148975
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Plasma#A_Small_Notice_to_all_Devou.2Ftg.2Fuardsmen_on_Plasma_Weaponry

I hate HQs. I'd be so much happier without them, the fucking points sinks that they are.

If I want to run Creeping Death, for a fluffy example, I need a Delegatus and a Siege Breaker (and inevitably 2 Apothecaries) if I want to footslog DG blokes up the field with 5+ cover, but that's 200 points for 2 semi-useless dudes. and 100 points for FnP.

>Battle of Prospero diorama had lots of Yiff breachers
>Appearently led into somebody from FW hinting at planned changes to Breachers

I want to believe !

>GW writer staff still going through the feedback for the FAQ draft
>They expected only 10% of the actual response

Lel, can't say people aren't passionate about the game huh

>>50149211
Back to /40kg/ you go WAAC fag

>>50149242
WAAC for wanting to play a thematic, fluff appropriate list?

WAAC for wishing that HQs felt less like a hindrance?

Eat my balls

>>50149211
Play kill team.
Also: >>50149242
HQs are great and 3 isn't enough.

>>50149211
>that's 200 points for 2 semi-useless dudes

Siege Breaker gives Tank Hunter and Wrecker on the squad he joins, so put him with some Heavy Weapons or Rapiers. He also enables rapiers to have Phosphex. DG get a 4+ FNP vs. Poison and can re-roll Dangerous Terrain tests, so phosphex has much less concern to you.

Delegatus gives you Vets as Troops, so use that to your advantage.

>100 points for FnP

Footsloggers need all the help they can get. It's still cheaper than 300+ pts. for a Spartan.

>>50149242
>>50149297
Different people want different things from their armies. Some want heroes, decked out with as much gear as they can give them. For others it's all about the massed soldiery, and the HQs are kind of a tax.

>>50149211
>If I want to run Creeping Death, for a fluffy example, I need a Delegatus and a Siege Breaker
Siegemaster MotL Durak Raaaaask ;^)

>>50149326
A centurion is only 50 points, give him a bolter and you can pretend he's a tactical to your hearts content.

>>50147346
Bitterness.

>>50149211

Legion HQ's really feel like they need more of a command and control aspect

Really there are no support HQ's other then a couple of legion special characters that give MotL, leaving the only options to go with multiple HQ's (Herald + other support HQ), a beat stick praetor, or a delegatus

Legion officers should have a few more support options, even if its just something as simple as praetors getting to pick certain Warlord traits depending on the their legion, so it feels like the Warlord is actually commanding his dudes, rather then just being there to engage is sweaty man fighting

Hey /hhg/, are there any legions that function effectively with minimal vehicles or without any at all? I fucking hate tanks and shit like that. Infantry and dreads all the way. EC maybe? DG?

>>50149326
Masters of the Legion have mainly one purpose: unlock Rites of War.
You could bring a squad of Deathshroud as a standalone HQ if you want to, and one of them would indeed roll for a Warlord trait since they're all characters, but you'd be unable to do Rites of War.

>>50149496
Best bets would be a legion with very resilient infantry like Iron Hands, which also happen to have nice possible buffs for Dreads.

Or a legion that allows your infantry to start close to the enemy from turn one, like Ravenguard or Alpha Legion. Armillus Dynat also buffs Dreadnoughts by the way, so I'd say AL have the slight edge there.

>>50149478
>Really there are no support HQ's
Master of Signal, Herald, Siege Breaker, Librarian, Primus Medicae and Damocles Rhino.

>>50149496
AL & RG are good for infiltrating

SoH have their long march rite which is all about not using vehicles

DG are pretty good if you violently despise vehicles

You could even use Ironfire and just have quad mortars and dudes, but then again so does everyone else in this general so yeah

>>50149496
The DG welcomes you.

>>50149478
>Legion officers should have a few more support options

You got ones that give units Apothecaries can't join an option for an Apothecary (Primus Medicae). You got ones that lets non-Destroyers have rad grenades and enables a Relentless conversion beamer (Forge Lord). There's one that gives a unit Scout and Stealth (Vigilator). There's one that makes Vets troops without an RoW (Delegatus). There's one that gives you phosphex and Tank Hunter & Wrecker to a unit (Siege Breaker).

How do these not give you support? I've used several types of HQs in both my legions to buff units and enable options.

>>50149496
Night Lords

>>50149496
Blood Angels.
>Day of Revelation
>Recon Squads with nuncio
>Precision deep strike entire army turn 1

>>50149554

>Really there are no support HQ's other then a couple of legion special characters that give MotL

>>50149601
Exactly, I posted some examples to prove you wrong.

>>50149478

>Really there are no support HQ's

So chaplains are not real and have always been just my imagination ?

You're just whining at this point. Accept what you are and go play Unbound already

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The techmarines found a thing for you guys.

>>50149496
Transports in 30k have the function of not only delivering your squads to where they're needed, but also to shield them from artillery. If you know your enemy doesn't have so much artillery, then braving the field on foot isn't so much of a struggle.
The EC have access to reliable outflanking and Fulgrim can pick the Master of Ambush WT.
Perturabo allows terminators to teleport, and the shortest way between points A and B is to teleport between them.
The Fists have the most access to teleport, even being able to teleport regular infantry units under with the right RoW
Night Lords also teleport, and can footslogg under literal cover of night, shrugging off armour ignoring shots
The Blood Angels' Ass marines can safely deepstrike
The Iron Hands are resistant to small arms, but are also sort of slowish, and artillery kills them just like any other marine
The Death Guard has a RoW that gives you cover in the open, and has FnP for that nasty Phosphex. Their other RoW does make them slow.
SoH are the tip of the spear and also teleport out of the ass. Everything is xtremely expensive
WB Daemons teleport
Salamanders are slow as . f u c k
And RG and AL are fast by means of infiltrating on point or scouting. AL Autilon Skorr can also pick his WT for that Master of Ambush.

>>50149648
>Why_Rogal_Dorn_Can't_Charge.jpg

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>>50149648
SENTINEL KNIFE KING OF KNIVES OF HUMUNGOUS SIZE
AP5!!!!!1!!1!!
Here, have a combi-pistol

>>50149701
What old book is that from?

>>50149733
I used paint on a pic I downloaded, so I don't know the source

>>50149211
WAAC under the pretense of fluff is still WAAC, every squad should have an apothecary to recover geneseed but alas we don't have CT:RS

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>>50149552

>drop pod a siege dread with Dynat

>>50149766
>desperately collecting gene-seeds

This isn't 40k, anon.

>>50149552
>Best bets would be a legion with very resilient infantry like Iron Hands,
S8 AP3 blasts still kill them on a 2+

So how many Monstrous Creatures for Admech are cheese? I want to know how many Ordo Reductor tanks and Legio cybernetica robots I can field and still have a fair game at 1500, 2000, 2500 or 3k. Seems to me the only units that wouldnt be cheese if spammed are Ursarax, Myrmidon Secutors and Domitar automata.

>>50149610

If you really want to do this

>Master of Signal

Doesn't have MotL, Can't be compulsory HQ

>Herald

Has MotL, Can't be compulsory HQ

>Siege Breaker

Doesn't have MotL, can be compulsory

>Librarian

Doesn't have MotL, Can't be compulsory HQ

>Primus Medicae

Doesn't have MotL, Can't be compulsory HQ

>Damocles Rhino

Doesn't have MotL, Can't be compulsory HQ

You also forgot the Praevian, who Doesn't have MotL and can't be compulsory HQ

The point isn't that Support HQ's don't exist, its that the only way to unlock them is to buy them after the tax of a beat stick HQ, which is a waste if you're going for a shooting oriented army. This is one of the things which makes Durak Rask and Kyr Vhalen so amazing, they fulfill the requirements for a compulsory HQ with MotL while handing out big support buffs to their armies, which is something that no generic HQ has.

>>50149863
Even in 30k the easiest and fastest way to produce more geneseed was through the marines themselves.

>>50149894
>Moving the goalposts
I can't seem to remember the RoW that unlocks the hordes of infantry you so crave.
Oh wait, they are already an option.

>>50149869

It's like playing against a much weaker knights list. Just tell your opponent before hand and it should be fine.

>>50148360
Thanks! Been slowly making progress on these guys. More detail than my tacs and tartaros had.

>>50149916
But they weren't invaluable relics of a bygone era without which your chapter and everything you love will be deeeeeaaaaaad!!!111121421234

It's like gathering equipment from fallen soldiers. Yes, it's good to put all the intact stuff into use, but you don't put a supply officer into each squad to make sure all the materiel is collected. The apothecaries can collect the geneseeds after the battle.

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>>50145043
That green is a little too dark for me, and what's with that marine on the left with the claws and his pose? Not trying to be negative or anything. Take this picture of a Caucasian Shepherd pup.

>>50149964
Ah, so a couple are OK as a force backbone but too many can polarise the win/lose at listbuilding? Seems logical. Plan was 3 Vorax, 2 or 4 Castellax and 1 or 2 Vulturax at 3k. First, though I have to finish off my 40K Mechanicus, just need a Knight for those, then I can start 30k.

>>50150058
Also, is it generally legit to convert a large proportion of my army from non - FW stuff? I need a lot of Adsecularis, some Arty tanks and Scoria, but Im not paying FW prices for the first two and I cant find a model for the latter.
I know the plan for Arty and Scoria, but what looks good as tech-thralls? Need a good "Expendable Rabble" look.

>>50150122
Depends. If you use 40k Skitarii as tech-thralls, you're okay until FW releases rules for HH Skitarii. If they're different in fluff but similar in model look (like if they're returned to their original role as a titan guard), then you're screwed.

Necromunda pit miners would be pretty neat, though.

For artillery tanks I'd hope that you put in a little more effort than just painting an IG Medusa red. I don't even care that the Chimera chassis was unknown during the Heresy - I can let that go. But that model is way too clean for a Mechanicum look.

>>50149863
One of the reasons geneseed is so unstable in 40k is because they just farmed it off marines constantly not just waiting until death

>>50150166
Medusae are Chimeras with Maxmini Siege guns mounted, and tooled up with my plethora of spare admech bits from the Kataphron Destroyers and Sydonian Dragoons. They also each have a Skitarii Ranger as the commander sticking his head out where the turret used to be.

Adsec arent going to be Skitarii, that looks too professional. Chaos Cultists with Rnager heads would work but those are monopose. Any other Rabble with shitty guns units I can use? Was going for lobotomised workers thrown out to catch bullets during Forge World crisis, or just generally for the Dark Mech.

>>50150029
Sadly bought second hand and they're plastic glued together. Would've ran a slightly different loadout and different poses. Also I have terrible lighting so the green isn't to dark.

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>>50149577
>enables a Relentless conversion beamer
Do you have any idea what you've done? I don't want to want this. Yet I've been browsing ebay and various bits-sites for almost and hour now.

>>50149766
Red Scorpions please go and stay EC.

>>50149577
>There's one that makes Vets troops without an RoW (Delegatus)

I wish! But it doesnt, Chosen Duty is a RoW and the only thing Delegatus do is being a cheap MotL for small games.

>>50150273
Well are you aware FW already sells a model with a shoulder mounted conversion beamer? It's that Astral Claws dude.

Find those bits.

>>50150301
I know but want to use the Iron Father model as a base. (In the hypothetical situation that I chose to do this)

>>50150273
Tech-Priests Dominus eradicator beamer on a heavy flamer body?

Personally, I used a spare conversion beamer muzzle from the FW archmagos abeyant on a GK incinerator body.

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>>50150249
Think you can take another picture with better lighting?

>>50150358
We'll have to get back later tonight once I can paint, no problem.

>>50150333
I was thinking of this http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/regiments-heavy-support-weapons/regiments-tesla-annihilator-heavy-support-weapon

There aren't really any conversion beamer bits available on ebay.

>>50150432
>aquila gun shield

My Terran Army project wipes sweat off its brow.

Where are those Army rules, FW?

>>50149894
Not that anon, but I think Heralds should be able to be compulsory HQs at least in allied detachments.

>>50150278
No we are Alacráns forever more

>>50150612
Los Alacranes rojos.

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Dumping pics of assembled BoP time ! First up some Templar Brethren, converted using all plastic bits like a true cheapfag.

GK swords without the technical bits looks kinda sexy though

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Front shot of breachers. Can't see anything of the marines themselves, side shot coming up

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And last one, the Tartaros. Want to make a full unit, still have to find somebody willing to part from his 5 tartaros.

>>50150978
>>50151011
>>50151029
>>50151059

Nicely done, anon.

But...
> undrilled barrels.

>>50150978
Damn, thats sexy! Good stuff my fellow Fist.

>>50150978
>>50151011
>>50151029
>>50151059
Fuck those are nice

>>50145018
> Curze, Morty, and Fulgrim at the bottom.
Seriously, why is perturabo the man-baby at the top.

>>50151080
I see you missed the power dagger on the tartaros and breacher sergants. goooood For Dorn !

>>50151160
>why is perturabo the man-baby at the top
You really need to ask when you see the man-babyisms spouted in these threads?

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>>50151161
God damn you Alpharius!

>>50147319
Night lords look pretty fuckin dope in Mk 3 for some reason. So do scars and blood anges

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>>50150358
Attempted better lighting for you anon

>>50151212
Dorn's anger has even affected the face on his armor.

>>50151198
True, but he is different. He is the king of manbabyness

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>>50151275
Thanks. The guy with the funky pose still looks like he's tired after a long day of work. Take this picture of a Caucasian Shepherd that's angry.

>>50150978
Looks great, actually. All-plastic can work.

>>50151242
They do. I want to do Scars eventually... would Mk III work, or should I try to get rich and do Mk II only? I guess they'd be one of the legions more likely to mix marks.

Rumor from this weekend's GW event is that the next FW HH book will feature the DA and BA, so WS have to wait.

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Think I went a bit heavy on the wash for my Archmagos.

>>50151447
Is that the spirit of yestet-years emperormas?

On the washes, maybe. Highlights might be enough.

>>50151447
Looks like he crawled or fought his way out of Blanche's fever dreams.

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>>50151447
>Black robes
>Red armor plating
Stygies VIII?

>>50151323
>I want to do Scars eventually... would Mk III work

Of course it would, even MkIV would work as the legion could easily have a stock of MkIV prototypes from before they were outside of Imperial space.

>>50151516
The ghost of tech-heresy future, come to punish the weak who would deny the true, savage image of the Omnissiah.

>>50151525
Exactly what I'm going for. Thanks, m80.

>>50151527
Sarum, actually.

>>50151603
>Exactly what I'm going for. Thanks, m80
If your guy's story isn't he actually went inside Blanche's dreams(or the Warp ya know but those two might be the same), and came out a changed man I'm going to be disappointed. But nice work.

I think I'm retarded, but I'm pretty sure I've gone through every link in the OP and I can't find the updated LACAL book, just the outdated one :(

>>50151603
Now my autism's being triggered by your guy having the same colors as Stygies VIII but not being from there.

But that's okay. Sarum's the world that Angron decided that it belonged to him, right?

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>>50151603

>Sarum

Reeeee!Comet boys get out!


I like the basic reasoning of the Dark Mechanicum, Emps wanted to shaft their Religion.

But they went over the edge, as everyone did in ALL directions.

>>50151029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t71WhiSDAI

mad jelly of your shieldwall

>>50145043
Good progress but for the love of god wash those things, at the very least the red leather.

Not bad though anon

How much, on average, does a 3000 pt list cost? Or is something like that too hard to give a reliable estimate because of diversity of armies, units, etc?

>>50152055
>Or is something like that too hard to give a reliable estimate because of diversity of armies, units, etc

>>50145043
Looking sweet, though it may be the camera, but the colours look a little flat, (I know my phone cam makes my own SoH look way too metallic) Have you washed these dudes down at all?

>>50152055
Dont do the stupid thing and buy 3000pts worth of shit all at once, thats beyond retarded and you'll end up not painting it anything and selling it all. Just buy a box here and there and you'll have 3000pts after a while.

>>50152164
>don't buy it all at once
Oh Lord no. I was just trying to get a sense of what I'm getting myself into. One legion task force will suit me just fine for the foreseeable future.

>>50152055
Here's a rough (and now outdated) list of points per GBP: http://pastebin.com/shM2YEYW

Basic infantry, including terminators and support/heavy support squads, come out to 4-5 points/GBP. You could have a 3000pt footslogging army for 666 GBP (BaC/BoP plastics + FW. Dreadnoughts are in that price/points efficiency tier too.

Assault squads are 2.5 points/GBP and bikes/jetbikes around 2.

Superheavy tanks are 3-4 points/GBP. Heavyish tanks (Land Raider/Sicaran-sized) tanks are 2-3. Predators, drop pods, and a lot of flyers are around 1.5. Javelins and Rhinos are around 1 point/GBP.

That means a 3000pt White Scars army could cost 1500+ GBP.

>>50146083
His original artwork from sabretooth games has the bugger in black.

>>50148804
>>50147691
Angron is specifically described by everyone from Horus and Lorgar to Argel Tal and Kharn as being the antithesis of charismatic (written by ADB to boot)

Curze also wasn't anything charismatic (none of his sons gave a shit they left him on the Invincible Reason)

>>50152297
On top of that he would usually stop talking mid sentence and forget his place because of the Nails. Nose was constantly bleeding and he had a bad chance of the twitches. Charisma is about the furthest word I would use to describe. There's a reason Kharn comes to hate him.

>>50152346
>chance
case*

>>50151656
Maybe you're tired and dehydratated. It's there, trust me. I myself put the link and uploaded Scan Anon's work. Drink some water.
>>50151675
They shed blood together and became brothers. It helped that Sarum's Redjak were overly belicose techpriests.

>>50148944
severely underrated post

what if the pale spear had flesh bane instead of armor bane

>>50152562
It would still be pretty Big.

>>50152562
Well, fluffwise doesn't it already dissolve all flesh it touches?

>>50152597


Yeah I have no idea why it doesn't have it

Should be like the old school Callidus phase blade on steroids

>>50152562
Huh, I always thought it had Fleshbane instead of Instant Death. It dissolves flesh by touching it, bloodless gaping wounds, right?
>>50152575
For (You)

Gibe Alparus mk3 pic plz

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>>50145997

>>50151913
That is definitely the next step I know. It's show progress with school and such.

>>50152111
They still need their highlights bad, and the red is not washed. I'll report back once they're actually more done

What are the status of the FW models for Sanguinus and Magnus? I know we get BA in Inferno so is there a chance they would try to release Sang shortly thereafter?

>>50152786
There won't be any FW primarch models after Russ, the rest will be in plastic.

>>50152838
W-what? Why?!

>>50152859
he's bullshitting

What units do thousand sons take?

>>50152872
>>50152838
This feels like an Alpha Legion psyop.

>>50146330
Alpha Legion have gone from cool and subversive to autism tier.

The only people who like them are basically retarded manchildren. Same people that read the Secret and acted condescending towards other people.

BL has literally ruined the HH story.

>>50152939

>I talk in permanent hyperbole about a minor hobby of mine

>>50152786
>I know we get BA in Inferno
Uh... no. Inferno is Space Wolves, Custodes, Sisters of Silence, and some Sons of Horus against the Thousand Sons and TS-aligned Mechanicum forces. Blood Angels (and Dark Angels) will be the focus of book 8, according to Alan Bligh at this weekend's Open Day.

A few months ago they said they were struggling with the Magnus sculpt (for Inferno, not the GW post-ascension Magnus) but they'll have it ready for Inferno's release.

>>50152939
Its black library, what did you expect? The head of the Horus Heresy books is a manchild while they just keep milking the series for no reason.

Seriously more then half the damned books exist for no reason, there should've been 18 books, one for each legion in the horus heresy.

Seriously why the hell is it 40 books long so far? Its been 10 damned years just end it already!

>>50152994
Oh, Book 8 then. My mistake. Good to know that Magnus is coming along. Were there any preview pics?

>>50152995
Who is the manchild leading the HH?

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>>50152939
I wonder what Operator-anon thinks about the rampant Alphaposting.

>>50153075
Kill them, the autists have compromised the whole thing.

>>50152939
>BL has literally ruined the HH story.
BL Has three general story types:

Fapfiction where the legion it highlights are ultra badass

Artists Vision where they take so many liberties and try to make their dick bigger compared to other authors. (I call bullshit on the GWs unified plan and vision for the HH series.)

And

Why? Why am I reading this story? I already forgot half the book.

>>50153014
None, oddly enough.

These days I go to Battle Bunnies for any HH news coming out of FW/GW events. They're a good group of people.

>>50152995
18 books? That'd be terrible. For the Blood Angels, for example, you're not going to get Signus Prime, their journey to Terra, and Sanguinius's death in one novel. You get one book covering their entry into the war, maybe one in the middle, and one at the end (for legions present at Terra).

The Emperor's Children get a book about the end of the Great Crusade and Isstvan III/V, then one about Fulgrim's ascension (shared with Perturabo), and they've appeared as bad guys in one of the White Scars books - none of that was unreasonable.

There've been some pointless filler books, but not really that many.

What's the rush, anyway? We all know how the story ends. Might as well take our time getting there.

>>50152886
Most of the ones you can find in the legion armylist. A better question would be what units te Thousand Sons don't take

>This goes for all legions

>>50153280
Mastodons. Sure they have some, but they don't strike me as too siege-y. ZM sure they do (breachers), but I think their numbers don't quite make them feel confortable in the siege?

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>>50153345
Pity. (no, it's not mine, but I like it)

>>50153146
Well this many books doesn't work either. The whole Vulkan story ark that is spread across multiple books goes nowhere and has fuck all impact on the HH in general, but it still filled 2 books with yet more to come.

Meanwhile whatever happend at Olympia still isn't covered, nobody knows what the fuck the Emperor's Children are even doing, Thousand Sons get namedropped in Weregeld but how they got there or what they are doing exactly is anyone's guess so little is written about them and Alpha Legion in that book you can replace them with any other legion and the book stil reads the same and BL decided to kill any and all plots set up for the Alpha Legion just so that Dorn could feel bigger it could also be one amazing long con plot twitst, but does anybody still believe BL is capable of that

>>50153380
It looks like a neat spaceship, too.

>>50153445

It's literally begging for someone to "retcon" it.

>>50153345

You can take a Mastadon as TS and I wouldn't blink

>>50153280

Salamanders can't use destroyers or moritats. I forgot if anyone else is a moralfag

Oh, if only my job paid enough money to support my listbuilding fantasies

120-Lord Marshal-Displacer field, Power Fist, Digital Lasers
55-Tank Commander
55-Tank Commander

240-Household Retinue with Power Axes, Arvus Lighter

280-Storm Section+demolisher Dracosan
280-Storm Section+demolisher Dracosan
280-Storm Section+demolisher Dracosan

200-Thunderbolt Fighter
200-Thunderbolt Fighter

340-Malcador-Demolisher Cannon, Lascannon sponsons, Siege Armour, Flare Shield, Armoured Ceramite
290-Malcador Infernus-Chem-munitions

660-Stormhammer, Armoured Ceramite, six lascannon sponsons, pintle lascannon

Why should I take transports over tons of dudes?

>>50153700
ordinance templates

>>50153700

AP2 5" templates

>>50153700
PHOSPHEX

>>50153700
Because artillery. This can be mitigated if you run six inductii blobs with apothecaries as World Eaters simply due to having too many dudes for anything less than quadruple thudd gun Ironfire lists to beat, but otherwise its hopeless if someones dropping them templates on you

>>50153445
Emperors Children are scattered but large part of fleet pursued White Scars until they were stalemated at Dark Glass. Fulgrim is MIA and Eidolon is current defacto leader.

>>50153805
>>50153445
MIA isn't the right phrase now that I think about it. AWOL works better.

Any good alpha legion schemes close to forgeworlds that dont require a fucking airbrush my dudes?

>>50153445
The Vulkan/Unremembered Empire story arc was a mistake. I really don't think it worked out well.

The early novels were pretty good, as well as the Shadow Crusade arc (First Heretic, Know no Fear, Betrayer), the two White Scars books, the Tallarn novellas, and arguably the Prospero pair. The Dark Angels and Raven Guard arcs are apparently love or hate.

Now we're starting a Solar System arc. Praetorian of Dorn was dumb from Alpharius's point of view, but pretty good if you wanted to see Imperial Fists being themselves or the Alpha Legion doing their usual antics. Master of Mankind could be interesting.

>>50153929
Tamiya clears can be brushed on over silver, though I recommend using rubbing alcohol (isopropyl) instead of water.

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>>50153660
As in I think TS do have Mastodons, just not too many, since siege is something I think they'd try to avoid, which is what the Mastodon is for.
I totally forgot about Salamander Destroyers and Moritats, and I do wonder why they can't take the later (besides to avoid Chain Fire with mastercrafted pistol), since Salamanders can take Forgelords with rad grenades too.
>>50153508
I bet it could survive reentry, A Team style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=104tQfcK1sI

>>50153929
Needs a FW air brush paint, but Calth Blue over leadbelcher is pretty nice. Wash with draknhof, glaze with guilliman for the torso and waywatcher on the bottom, and it looks alright

>>50154069
cont.
>Why are we in a falling Mastodon?!
>Because the Stormbird exploded!
>What... What?! When?
>Recently. The Vultarax shot it down!
>What Vultarax?
>The same ones that are still trying to kill us!
>I blame you, Ahriman!
>Technically we're not flying.
>I know! Cos we're falling, fool!

>>50154153
Video log of the Salmanders's Praetor of the Year ceremony. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JOXfw-TtJj8
Also new bread

>>50146453
I see you either can't read or just lack reading comprehension. Book 1, page 127, tells us that the DG took in recruits from other planets than Barbarus, but usually only a scant few unless casualties forced them to expand their pool of recruitment to recover their numbers.

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Working on the Chaplain out of the BaC box. Does anyone know what the heck the skull-topped sticks hanging off his right hip even are?

>>50154955
Censures, like the little things churches have smoke come out of.

>>50154955
space nunchucks

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R8 my list.

2000 point World Eaters, Traitor, Berserker Assault

220 Points, Praetor
-Mastercrafted Powerfist, Lightning Claw, Melta Bomb, Artificer Armor, Iron Halo, Digital Weapons.

165 Points, Apothecurion Detachment
- x3 Apothercary w/ Artificer Armor

165 Points, Apothecurion Detachment
- x3 Apothercary w/ Artificer Armor

245 Points, Tactical Squad
- x20 Marines, Melta Bomb, Powerfist

245 Points, Tactical Squad
- x20 Marines, Melta Bomb, Powerfist

245 Points, Tactical Squad
- x20 Marines, Melta Bomb, Powerfist

245 Points, Tactical Squad
- x20 Marines, Melta Bomb, Powerfist

245 Points, Tactical Squad
- x20 Marines, Melta Bomb, Powerfist

245 Points, Tactical Squad
- x20 Marines, Melta Bomb, Powerfist