Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Let's be honest with each other, /pfg/.

You don't actually hate Golarion, do you?

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>tfw you will kill for a /pfg/ group

Anyone looking for an assassin/rogue type?

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>>50138167
first for seska

>>50138196
I don't know enough about it to love or hate it.

>>50138196
I don't hate it I would just never play in it on purpose

>>50138167

Most recent character created? Or most recent character played?

For one an Oni-Spawn Monk/Sacred gestalt that's been on these threads a few times.

For the other? A literal clone of myself trapped inside of the Silver Mount of Numeria.

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Don't lie to me /pfg/, tell me about musclegirls in your setting

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>>50138197

You should apply for the Rise of the Jade Regent campaign, it's recruiting until January!

Tell us about your character, is he/she cool? Why would they be in Sandpoint? Are you looking to duo app?

>>50138197
Don't worry anon, /pfg/ are actually shit to play with.

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>>50138230

The last musclegirl I've played with was a tough Ulfen wolf-girl, she was really fun!

>>50138242
better than roll20

>>50138196
I do, but that's because I feel pigeonholed from the lore perspective when creating characters with backstories that make sense.

>>50138167
>Broken Shackles playtest still only has two applicants

Poor DHB.

I tried to build a gunslinger for it but ran into a number of problems with the class design that still haven't been addressed and lost motivation

Also I'm not sure who would ever play a gunslinger under
>No advanced firearms allowed

>>50138258
but there's already a ulfen wuffgirl coming for rise of the jade regent ;.;

Okay so... Tiefling or Human for an investigator.

Stats are:

12, 15, 17, 9, 16, 10

i can put those anywhere i want.

From what it seems i need a lot of feats to be combat effective right? Should I just go slayer instead to be more combat effective? I really want to be a great skill monkey but i'm just not sure how to build a good damage dealer of this class.

Seems like pathfinder has a lot less handbooks than 3.5 really annoys me

>>50138295
What is your starting level? Investigator can hold its own very easily when it hits level 4 and gets Studied Combat.

>>50138237
>>50138242

I am just going to make my own solo campaign where I can be in a mildly successful thieves guild planning heists and second story jobs, shaking down shills and being an all around general malcontent and thorn in the guards sides while fueling corruption within the cities political elite.

>>50138260
Roll20 is a medium to play through. Is there a community or something on there?

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>>50138284

This was a different Ulfen woof, it's why I got a sense of deja vu from your application.

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>>50138237

She's currently employed at her human older sister's inn The Rusty Dragon as a Chef. She's basically the reason they win all those cooking contests. She's lived there a good portion of her life, though in the basement of the Kaijistu manor. Being an Oni-Spawn is a tad scandalous when both parents are human.

Her cooking skills and her martial arts are attempts at redirecting her vices of rough housing and an inhuman appetite towards constructive means.

Though she's a complete wuss at romance, she does want it. She's absolutely melt if she was propositioned by a Princely Gentleman... or a Ara Ara tier sophisticated lady.... a-at least to show her the ropes...

>>50138196
I actually like it, if only for the opportunity to have such incredibly mismatched people in one party.

>>50138167
She's all ready to get better at bashing things with shields.

>>50138315
There is a game finder function. Most of it is shit.

>>50138333
if by shit you mean 'literal fucking cancer'

>>50138307
Level 1.

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>>50138329

>I actually like it, if only for the opportunity to have such incredibly mismatched people in one party.

What? Why? What madness makes you think a campaign set in a region should have a party that's not from that region?

>>50138333
Yeah I probably wouldn't use that. Most people I play with are others I knew prior to inviting them to the game, as opposed to complete strangers.

>>50138316
Neat.

Ulfen woofgirls are great

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>>50138356
>Ulfen woofgirls are great

Especially when they get those cute lil accents that make their rolling Rs sound like growling.

>>50138167
>What's your most recent character?
Half-elf fighter who pokes things and bashes them with shields and then sprouts wings while flying (pun intended) into a rage while roided up, roaring at the top of his lungs and making everybody fear him

>>50138354
Because playing a fish-out-of-water can be fun.

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>>50138322

Anon, I want to express concern for anyone that tries to woo that thing. Unless she's the gentlest most pure cinnamon bun in the world, someone's arm or pelvis is going to get crushed.

>>50138390
there is literally nothing wrong with death by snusnu

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>>50138387

Not when everyone's a fish out of water, anon.

All the time, ALL THE TIME, every time I play a regional game I'm always the only person that actually has history in that region! Oh nooooo, poor little Brevic bastard's gotta work with a Keleshite asshole and two weirdo Chelish or Andoran or whatever the fuck Inner Sea riff-raff decided the Stolen Lands were a swell place to spend their exile.

And then these people have the GALL to act OFFENDED when a Brevic guy decides to speak with my guy in Skald and OH WOW NOBODY ELSE CAN SPEAK IT. Clearly I'm an asshole for being a native in my native land with other natives! Whoop-dee-doo!

>>50138390

She's a hard drinking, hard fighting, party animal. She's gotten better with moderation and has a sense of "time and place" since she became an ordained priest of Irori. But when she cuts loose she REALLY cuts loose.

She also looks really cute in a dress that she keeps in chest with five locks under a trapdoor no one ever shall find.

>>50138399

There is plenty wrong with death by snu-snu, anon.

And it's not snu-snu, it's called "sex." Futurama is an epic meme but it's been dead for years, let it go.

She could have the tightest cunt in the world and it won't mean a thing if your lungs are collapsed because she squeezed her thighs too hard.

>>50138422
Actually, that's something that never really clicked with me before, but why is it possible for some people to learn Common but not their own native language?

>>50138440
i don't think she's even the only scary musclegirl

would you prefer the giant wolfgirl thats almost six and a half feet tall?

>>50138440

Well when you put it that way anon.

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>>50138425
>She's a hard drinking, hard fighting, party animal. She's gotten better with moderation and has a sense of "time and place" since she became an ordained priest of Irori. But when she cuts loose she REALLY cuts loose.

Well well, I guess that answers that question; I guess she's learned through quite a bit of experience how to handle a man under or on her, eh?

has anyone use Morgan ironwood against their party ?

If an enemy is listed with a weapon that says +2, does that mean it has an enhancement bonus of 2 on the weapon?

>>50138447
>Born and grow up in South East Asia
>Chinese and Bahasa are the most prominent languages
>Only know how to speak english

It happens, anon. Depends on what communities you stick to.

>>50138456
>would you prefer the giant wolfgirl thats almost six and a half feet tall?

Yeah? Tall girls are great, means she could boobhat someone just by standing behind them.

>>50138463
Yeah! She knows all about men and all their parts and what to do with them.

She's and unspoilt virgin who's knowlege of romance is limited to copper store romance novels

>>50138489
keep in mind she is also a musclepunchgirl too.

>>50138479
>>50138447

Common was a mistake.

>>50138422
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree there. If it helps, being the next-door-neighbor coming to check in is something I've always found to be fun as well. Like being from the Realm of the Mammoth Lords in a Linnorm Kings campaign.

Then again, my experience has evidently been more fortunate than yours. You have my condolences.

If there's one thing I have to criticize about musclegirls it's that everyone and their sister has a huuuuuge rack. Where's my flatchested musclegirls at?

>>50138489
>>50138501

Oni girl is 6'2"... so just enough for asymmetrical docking.

Ok, so I am designing a city for a game.

Right now I am doing it from the top down. I go from city map, to districts, to things in districts.

Right now I am filling in the following district. I have a lot of features, but would love to take suggestions for NPCs, businesses, etc.

>Name
Mott Side, AKA Low Harbor, AKA The Salt Pan
>Description
This area of the city exists on a bend in Mott River, just before it heads inland from the bay. Numerous piers and docks, occupy this bend. The shore has been artificially increased by numerous buildings and the like collapsing into the water. Often the tide will bring the water over the dilapidated levees and flood the district to roughly ankle deep salt water. Once this water dries and drains under the intense son a rim of salt is left behind, along with numerous small sea creatures. This is one of the poorest districts in the city.
>Major Industries
Mott Side plays home to most of the canning factories that send fish up river towards Capre, and out of the bay across the Mordroth Sea. It also has one of the three red light districts in the city, the poorest one. As well part of the harbor is dedicated to the military force popularly referred to as the Canker Fleet. A non-aggression force they exist solely to root out smugglers along Mott River and the shores of the sea. Their shipyards and shipwrights employ many.

So, anyone want their super special NPC or organization included?

>>50138501

There are at least three potential PCs with punching abilities. Which, considering the subject matter, sounds like it could be pretty funny.

>>50138501

That makes it even better, anon! Tall busty girls are one thing, but a tall busty girl that smells like freshly baked bread giving you a headrub or playfully punching your arm is just cute.

>>50138520

There are worse places to be smothered than the huge cleavage of a happy Oni girl.

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>>50138518
Those are called men.

>>50138549
That, my friend, is slander and I should think to strike you down now for it.

>>50138518

Well its more along the lines is that these huuuge racks are actually normal racks that have well developed pectoral muscles pushing them out further and thus appear bigger.

Also i think the main draw of the muscle girl is Exaggeration. Huge muscles? Why not make her Really tall too? OOh! wide hips, big ass and tits!
That sort of thing.

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>>50138509

I just want a game where everyone has a roots in the region, is that too much to ask? Why does everyone have to play the exile, why does everyone have to play the fish-out-of-water, why does everyone have to be some dark and mysterious foreigner fixing a problem the natives should handle? Where are their stakes?

Why why why?

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>>50138574
I gotchu senpai

>>50138589
You'll find it someday, anon. We both know you will.

>>50138584

Well-developed pectoral muscles actually do help make the breasts look larger and more firm!

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>>50138574
Muscle girls are gay.

>Literally 3 days left before the WOTR is scheduled to begin
>still no players selected

i feel so lied to guys

>>50138525
GM for one of the sessions we play concocted a wizard for the city he made called Mordak. He's one of the top officials of an organization called the Illuminar that collects arcane knowledge and rare artifacts. He's also moderately evil and uses a summoned spirit he's bonded his soul to to turn his enemies to jade.

He puts the resulting statues in his garden, although they're not actually dead unless you smash them.

>>50138621

BUT GRIMSBY

EIGHT LEGS

>>50138621

Then i am proud to be the biggest faggot.

>>50138495
She's adorable, i cant wait to see her flustered and embarrassed about the mere prospect of a date.

>>50138584
i honestly haven't fully decided how much rack wuff has

she just big punchlord in my head desu

>>50138230
I mean, I guess my current character is one by the most technical sense of the word (20 STR), but she's not exactly a looker. Doesn't even fix her hair in the morning most of the time.

>>50138649
>i honestly haven't fully decided how much rack wuff has

Ulfen have large racks, anon.

Remember the basics of 2d6+con divided by 2!

>>50138589
If I could put in a defense for foreigner heroes, it's always possible that the character is here because the governing force here screwed their life over and they're here to fix it so it stops happening.

Rolled 2, 6 + 2 = 10 (2d6 + 2)

>>50138667
ohboy

>>50138631

The game is dead, I've buried my application.

So it goes.

>>50138641
I like that. This city has what are called The High Houses. I need more.

If Mordak could be aligned to a particular emotion, what do you think it would be?

>>50138679
I'm leaving my wilder girl up in vain hopes.

vain.

>>50138680
Thinly veiled disdain for everyone else.

>>50138525
>poor and smelly docks

All the smelly industries belong there. Tanneries, dyers, choke producers, all that jazz. Warehouses as well. Shanty towns and small criminal gangs with colorful names like the Blood Razors, Black Crows, and Ally Blades. There could be a lucrative salt business what with the streets caked with the stuff where street urchins earn pennies for scraping the stuff off.

There should be a tavern called the Pounded
(native fish) where the signature dish is a (native fish) pounded with a hammer, bones, scales and all, into a "cake" that is fried and served. It serves low quality grog and hard spirits. It can also double as an assassins guild, where a DC 25ish sense motive check can notice that 1d6 patrons are not drunk off their asses.

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>>50138675
You're a solid Cassandra

>>50138704
t-thanks

>>50138675

Yyyyyyyup, Wolf-girl's got some big ole tiddies.

As you would expect from a scantily-clad baker.

>>50138704
which one is cassandra

>>50138652
That's not a bad thing

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>>50138520
>so just enough for asymmetrical docking

Tiefling are 2d10, if you wanted to play this dangerous game.

>>50138726

Third from the left.

>>50138735
great

>>50138680
Mordak's fellow ranking employee is named Ortex, he's an inordinately large Magus that growls a lot and hates being told what to do. Which happens a lot because Mordak teeechnically outranks him.

Rolled 4, 9 + 2 = 15 (2d10 + 2)

>>50138735
>>50138726
Actually that's Sophita, Her sister. Cassandra is the one to the left of the Red X

>>50138735

Umm... i-i've got that one trait that lets me reroll and take the better result... yeah.

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>>50138672

What could the government of Brevoy possibly have done to a Qadiran? From what I'm seeing in his backstory so far, not a ding dong thing.

They're all their because they heard there was money and glory to be had, it feels like my guy's the only one doing it with a hard pit in his stomach because his beloved homeland is GOING TO SHIT AND HE'S GOT A SLIVER OF A CHANCE TO FIX IT.

>>50138762
>15

great googly moogly.

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>>50138762

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>>50138773

Well go on, roll it again.

>>50138773
>>50138778

H-Cups on a 6'2 girl are frightening enough without the muscle.

Rolled 2, 8 + 2 = 12 (2d10 + 2)

>>50138773
>>50138762

lets see the reroll hang on...

>>50138771
Hey man I'm just saying what my current "foreigner character"'s backstory and motivation is. Obviously your situation and session is different, but it's still technically a possibility.

>>50138797
15 it is OK IVY

>>50138816

She's actually a cup larger than Ivy, you've gotta break out the Draph chart to appreciate her bust.

>>50138753
Right now here are some of the example High Houses:

>Name
High House Gem, Which Likens Itself to Depravity
>Alignment
NE
>Membership
~250
>Primary Classes
Wizard, Magus, and Rogue
>Leader
Porell Mar, CE Sorcerer 11/Aristocrat 3. Regularly will pull individuals he deems "attractive" off the streets to attend his "dinner parties". He's a megalomaniac gay pedophile polygamist rapist. He is also the foremost experts on the continent on numerous dead languages, and invaluable to the House of Enlightened Masters.
>History
House Gem owes its creation to an ordinace enacted by The House of Enlightened Masters some ninety years previous, as reward to its original founder for the defeat of the Empire of Capre's army in the field due to a gambit involving numerous planar bindings, momentary blocking out of the sun, and a quick acting lycanthropy contagion. The founder chose Depravity in respect to the his brother, both the creator and first victim of the lycathropy contagion.

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>>50138735
>not symmetrical docking
Someone isn't a hero!

>>50138826
absolute tittymonster.

Wolfgirl is distinctly average in comparison

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>>50138826
>>50138816

C-can i get a mulligan?

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>>50138806

Yeah, I guess... I'm just sitting here hoping the DM recognizes my character's the only one with a vested interest in running a strong country, and that my Warder has a chance of taking the throne of this nascent kingdom rather than the charismatic foreigner.

>>50138830
Now, count up your sins

if con affects breast size does that mean when using Bear's endurance or raging makes boobs grow.

in the skinwalker's case isn't her con actually 12 so she gets to 14 when transformed

does this mean when transforming and raging her cupsize increases by 3?

>>50138829
Thoughts on this?

Basically there are twin cities. One cities, Rohas, has been under the rule of the House of Enlightened Masters for a little under two hundred years, since a religion group first gain power and fell to ruin due to the death of their god. What survived was the bureaucracy they put in place, which then filled with councils of enlightened artisans/philosophers who created the House House system. High Houses are created as gifts to individuals/organizations and given certain rights by the state.

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>>50138838

Why not? It's not like these are hard-coded official rules.

Just one more, seriously. Rolling until you get a "better size" is hardly good sport.

>>50138834

Wolf-girl's also got a fairly humanoid body with what I assume is a fit action-girl physique.

Oni-girl's a red-skinned beast with horns and muscles on her muscles.

What I'm saying is Wolf-girl's built like Powergirl, but Oni's She-Hulk.

>>50138859
>if con affects breast size does that mean when using Bear's endurance or raging makes boobs grow.

Sadly, that isn't how the rules work. They have to be permanent "natural" boosts to your Constitution, such as ability scores or Reading 5 Weird Tips on how to increase your girth and raise your Constitution.

Rolled 8, 2 + 2 = 12 (2d10 + 2)

>>50138875

S-sorry, i mean good things come in threes.

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>>50138853
Gotta be hard-boiled.

JO-KAH

>>50138890
Man those rolls really want that 12.

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>>50138890

Welp, looks like you're left with the 15!

She's still monstrously stacked, anon, don't get too worried about it.

Let's not get this thread purged please

>>50138889
what about change shape? The Skinwalker ability.

>>50138890
>>50138912
>>50138909

Pfft same roll. Ahh it seems destiny has decided.

Still. Undefeatable gaint chest!

>>50138918
shutup and roll for anal circumference faggot

1d100

>>50138295
>>50138307
So yeah level 1 investigator.


Should I go tiefling or Human? I was thinking of using a rapier but how viable is that for damage?

Should i just go full str investigator instead of dex and just wield a sword or something?

You can't even get dex to finesse weapons unless you get the mythic feat... which is bull.

>>50138922

That's a permanent change to your constitution until you shift back?

Yes, her bust would increase.

>>50138868
Sounds more LE than NE to me, but that's just my opinion. Bureaucracy being what it is, those who survive in that kind of society at the very least need to be aligned with that kind of philosophy or else they'll either get eaten alive or make one too many faux pas.

>>50138953
its an inherent boost yes.

>>50138966
>>50138946

I think there should be a clause about women who've given birth before...

maybe a +2 circumstance bonus?

>>50138946
Rapier is actually one of the few weapons that can get dex to damage using 1pp only.

www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/fencing-grace-combat

As for your race, Human will let you get this at level 3, so that's a big plus in terms of not being useless in combat outside of crossbow shots and knowledge checks

>>50138966

Transformed wolf-girl's chest is almost as impressive as Oni!

>>50138988
not really, the roll was for transformed wolfgirl's chest

>>50138988

At least untill someone casts Enlarge person... but that's another matter entirely.

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>>50138985

>I think there should be a clause about women who've given birth before...

A-Anon, are you suggesting wolf-girl's a mother?

That actually sounds absurdly cute, and in line with being waffle girl.

>>50138962
The city on a whole is LN. That particular High House is NE.

>>50138440

>futurama is dead

Because trogs like you don't understand theoretical physics
Jesus fuck you must suck at gatherings of more than one person

Rolled 3, 1 + 2 = 6 (2d4 + 2)

I suppose the thread is probably going to get purged anyway. Might as well find out about my Wizard's magic dongerino

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>>50139015
Hell i've already got your art.

>>50139015
she's not

>>50139029
no.

Man, and we were having a decent thread prior to the culling.

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>>50139027

Oh what the heck, I might as well too.

>>50138987
If you play a halfling swashbuckler you can get Weapon Finesse, Focus, AND Fencing Grace all at level 1 by going Inspired Blade.

>>50139045
yes but then you're playing a swashbuckler.

Rolled 3, 2 + 1 = 6 (2d4 + 1)

>>50139042

I'm a dumb.

>>50139045
That also isn't Investigator, and delays Studied Combat until character level 5 if you just have the 1 level Swash dip, which would be the level a non-human pure Investigator could get Fencing Grace anyway

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>>50139039

Then who was suggesting the bit about motherhood, and why would that come up unless someone's making a literal party mom?

>>50139070
i have no idea.

>>50138316
Can confirm, was the different Ulfenwoof being mentioned.

But in all seriousness. I really like you guys. you're the funnest people around.

now in all seriousness, i'm looking for good Combat Style Combos.

I know Pummeling + Dragon is pretty nice.

Any good styles for like a one feat dip, or low investment combos? i get like 9 of these things for free.

>>50139058
Woo one way trip to thread-pruneville

>>50139040
That thread was really bad.

>>50139040
Honestly, it's been a really long time since we've had an actual good thread.

>>50138987
Uh... Investigator has 0 bab at level 1.


But if i did go Human just put that +2 into int right?

Should i just make my int 17 +2. 16 in dex and then take mutagen?

>>50139093
very few combat styles combo off of just low investment

>>50139070

I was just saying in general, and you guys were the closest ones available to the actual discussion. I am not a clever man....

But should there tho?

>>50139113

When was our last good thread, really?

>>50139128
there never was a good thread

this is /pfg/

the garbage of garbage.

>>50139120
Oh you're right. I didn't even think of the BAB gate on Weapon Focus.

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>>50139127
>But should there tho?

It would certainly be a fun change of pace from the typical line-up of spunky twenty somethings.

But then you'd have to figure out who she's with, or if she isn't why.

>>50138532
Wait, who's the third?

>>50139093
Outslug and Jabbing style?

>>50139140
Is there any way to bypass it? I'm not even sure what i should take as a bonus feat otherwise if i did go human. I can't pickup extra talnets yet...

>>50139148

Well i had a backup character, an Ancestor oracle who got her powers from the bun in her oven...

>>50139093
If you can get ranks in Nature, the Wolf Style chain is really fucking nice, especially Savage.

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>>50139188

I remember that character! Lots of fun developing her, sounds like the campaign she was for never fell through?

I'd say go for it, maybe see if you can duo app for some fun synergy.

>>50139153

If I remember correctly, there was a dhampir Inquisitor with a Brawler subclass. Bookish, but strong and durable nonetheless.

>>50139217
But that's the problem. I'm Oni-Spawn anon.

>>50139219
Wasn't she using a book to hit things though? She couldn't actually punch things whatsoever, she traded out that ability to un-flatfoot her friends if I remember the sheet correctly.

>>50139219
>>50139236

Her primary weapon is actually her big honking book, yes.

>>50139229

O-Oh, well then I guess she'll just have to stay on the backburner for a while longer.

Anyone have a good suggestion for city mapp generators?

>>50139248
Its okay, i'm actually just gonna make her the main character of a novel.

Anyone have the link to the RotJR game?

>>50139300

I dont think there's a thing for it just yet, All i know is character creation and that its happening in january.

>>50139300

Here you go, senpai.

https://app.roll20.net/join/1770733/2aujeQ

>>50139344
I stand corrected

>>50139249
On what, Roll20 or IRL?

If the former then google some maps for what you need, if the latter then just suck it up and draw them yourself unless you want to pony up the money for real ones.

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>>50139344

>Walking through the streets of Sandpoint in a January session

Not going to lie, if the DM makes the game in winter it's going to get pretty damn comfy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3VAltxlr8

>>50138167
My last character was a gnome sylvan sorcerer who did not have the racial animosity towards kobolds, in fact was a bit of a SJW about it. Had a Rhino companion that I used self only spells with share spell and shape change effects (like beast shape and such). He considered him self a Doctor, and he called his practice rhinoplasty.

The previous one was a oracle that made nearly everything based on Charisma, played like uncle grandpa, had a magical flying space tiger companion.

The one before that was a Skald, Iron Gods campaign, turned into pretty much an angry marine who had inspired rage and called on the primarchs to attack foes (all of the spirit totem powers) and primarily used a chain sword.

Yeah, I'm a primary GM, and I inflict the worst sort of troll characters in revenge when my players take up the reigns for a few months.

>Inna Runelords
>Party boards the Paradise
>prepares to ambush the lamia matriarch
>enters her room
>"Oh, you've caught me"
>"Was getting caught part of your plan?"
>"Of Course"
>"Well, congratulations! You got yourself caught! Now what's the next step in your master plan?"
>"Crashing this Barge... With no survivors!"

Then the wizard glitterdusted her, and then she dimension door'd off the boat and swam off, leaving them to deal with it.

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How would you play a man of science in a fantasy rpg where gods and magic are commonplace?

>>50139404

Alchemist from Numeria.

Literally anyone from Alkenstar.

>>50139404

Investigator.

Guys, I need some input here, because I feel like I may be losing touch with my ability to run a decent PF campaign due to branching into other systems.

Basically, in the start, the numbers helped me. Being able to reference tons of classes, archetypes, feats, and bonuses helped me build interesting fights that challenged my players.

But they're level 7 right now and have become ridiculously hard to throw a real challenge at.

Stand-out PCs:
>Urban Barbarian/Brawler with HUGE bonuses to things like Overrun & Grapple, and a power attack that, when it hits, will demolish most anything. (Seriously, a similiar-level NPC can survive maybe three hits if they're lucky).
My problem against him is mostly that Grapple rules seem heavily weighted in favor of the PC when even an enemy with a built-in Grab can't beat his CMD. Also, you can pin even an amorphous creature like a Gibbering Mouther as per the rules.

>Swashbuckler crit-threatening on pretty much every hit,
This is pretty obvious, he's just a huge damage output with a crazy AC.

>Wall of metal Towershield Fighter.
27 AC I think? Also full cover for free.

We're in the higher levels of play now, I need to find ways to hit them where it hurts, but even the "scary" enemies barely last three rounds.

>>50139445
I'm not seeing the problem.

>>50139404

Just because magic is commonplace does not mean the scientific method has been destroyed.

Go forth! Unravel the mysteries! Build magiteck

>>50138422
My party actually started a campaign where we all managed to have good roots in the area. My character was the son of a famous witch from the area, two other guys were street urchin buddies who grew up there, another was a country bumpkin who was raised in the woods outside the sprawling city and the last guy was of noble birth and had just returned from a spontaneous adventure/expedition to go see more of the world. It was a great group dynamic and we all had a stake in the campaign. Then someone got bored with there being "too much story, not enough killing" and happened to catch two other people on a grumpy night who agreed and we dumped the campaign to run something just for fun to get it out of our system.

We're currently on the last session of Emerald Spire with a Courtesan/Assassin/Eldritch Knight Vishkanya, a Shadowdancer Tiefling, an elven cleric of Desna, a random Undine witch from the plane of water and a hobgoblin monk/brawler. I've pointed out multiple times that I've forgotten why we're even exploring this damn dungeon and that none of our characters even really have a reason to like one another, much less work together. I can't wait to end this one so we can start another *actual* adventure path and get another good party put together. Diverse parties are fun when they make sense, but without the proper story hook or set up, they're very hard to give a good reason for.

>>50139045

Where the hell does halfling fit into this equation?

I could get all three of those if i took any race and inspired blade...

The only issue is delayed studied combat.


Fuck i don't know what to do.

Should i just go tiefling level 1 swashbuckler and then go into investigator or should i just go straight investigator? The opening of a bunch of feats is reallly nice though. I'd love to pick up extra investigator talents so that I can grab the Underworld inspiration at level 3 along with grabbing Mutagen for 22 dex.

>>50139464
Hurf

>>50139445
Thank god you don't have anybody in your party competent at making power characters. Those are pretty easy PCs to deal with.

>>50139486
So....?

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>>50138167
My most recent character is... uh... yeah.

>>50139476
No, really. A Barbarian trucking enemies in 3 hits is what's SUPPOSED to happen, Swashbucklers critting often is improbable(30%*chance to hit) in a best case scenario, and a Fighter spamming AC with a tower shield is fucking worthless offensively because it limits them to using one of the worst combat styles in the game and hits them with a -2 accuracy penalty.

>>50138230
A related question; how does one calculate attractiveness for all those healthy - but not too talkative - girls anyways?

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>>50139468
>Diverse parties are fun when they make sense, but without the proper story hook or set up, they're very hard to give a good reason for.

Yeah, which is we seem to have anon here having a brain aneurysm because he's the only Pole in a campaign set around Not!Poland.

>>50139473
Sorry Halfling is actually not required for that particular build, I just mentioned it because we're using that character to run Giant Slayer, and his size and racial stuff is perfect against larger opponents.

>>50139445
It's pretty obvious that you're trying to beat their characters at their own game, which you're right the PCs will invariably get the advantage over whatever you throw at them due to how the game is built. What you need to do is challenge them with things their characters are NOT good at, in particular since you seem to have a bunch of martials, send some stealthing rogues or mages at them and see how quickly they'll have to change up their strategy in order to combat this new threat.

>>50138281
to be fair, as a vs-touch basically-melee-range weapon, the early firearms made the strongest gunslingers until a recent fix that allowed rapid reload to fucking work with advanced. Both are still stronger than automatic or technological energy weapons by far as well as cheaper anyways.

>>50139540
>how does one calculate attractiveness for all those healthy - but not too talkative - girls anyways?

(Str+Dex+Con+Cha) / 4 = Attractiveness, there are also traits such as Charming that explicitly describe your character as attractive.

What'd you roll?

>>50139024
He's not even that flexible, so he fails to suck even when all alone.

>>50138985
Temporarily.

Give it a month or two after the baby's weaned and all that bonus just deflates into sag.

>>50139445
seriously though, 3 round combats are pretty common unless you throw some pretty good stuff at the party, like flying enemies, fog clouds, invisibility ect. From the sound of things you might be thinking that same level enemy is a challenge. It is not. CR+2 to 4 is a challenge. CR = APL is free XP.

Damage dealers are supposed to be able to 1-2 round enemies if they get their full attack pattern. It is their job. Crit monkey characters are supposed to spike their damage frequently, and the AC of swashbuckler has issues if you can negate their dex.
AC 27 at level 7 is not actually sorta low for a dedicated tank. Hell it should be easier to hit with lvl 7 challenges than AC 20 was at level 1 (which is a reasonable AC for a level 1 tank).

What to do: have multiple threatening enemies, one that have a chance to negate one or more PC advantage long enough that the other characters might have to help that PC. The thing is the players are supposed to win. That doesn't make you make it easy for them, but it also doesn't mean you need to be gunning for them every fight.

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>>50139575
>Stat block of 18, 14, 12, 12, 16, 7
>Attractiveness of 1.25
Is that good? I feel like that's not good.

>>50139608

>Implying there's anything wrong with sag.

>>50139344
Should I, /pfg/? I'm likely to be in classes again, and very late on Mondays. Plus with a game on Saturdays for the forseeable future.

>>50139560
>It's pretty obvious that you're trying to beat their characters at their own game

Not really, I'm mostly just trying to figure out what DMs do at these levels, because I've never played PF this long (usually campaigns have fallen apart or TPK'd before that), and my primary concern is giving the party an actual challenge, because what the fuck is the point of a fight that doesn't actually hurt?

>What you need to do is challenge them with things their characters are NOT good at
There's only so many Will saves you can force the Barbarian to make.

>send some stealthing rogues or mages at them and see how quickly they'll have to change up their strategy in order to combat this new threat.
My problem with spellcasters in-game is that I think I'm just awful at running them. Every enemy comes with a block saying what it's tactics are like, what spells it wants to use, etc., but they tend to not get a chance to use any of them.

Again, this is why I'm asking what other DMs do in these situations.

>>50139656
>1 is nice

>>50139656

She's got a score of 12.75, that's "cute enough to kiss at the Harvest Ball."

I'm looking at potentially making a tribal sort of character with the PoW system, kind of like a barbarian but not really completely savage. Which of the PoW classes would be best for that? Was thinking stalker or warlord.

>>50139672
>Tried to use a greater than sign as intended on 4chan
I'm retarded.

>>50139608
>Doing it wrong.

>>50139671
no plan survives contact with the enemy. Have contingency plans, and be prepared to improvise.

>>50139575

i'm assuming you mean total score so...
17+15+14+7
Oni girl = 13.5
But we're going by bonus...
= 1.25

>>50139540
They may be physically attractive, personality and Charisma is probably more than a little bit of a deciding factor.

For instance, Oni girl may be physically attractive. (Melina Maw not withstanding), but her loud and rowdy nature off puts most mates. >>50138390 Like he said, "i'd probably get a crushed pelvis"

>>50139667

That Saturday game might be an issue, but just apply and see what happens! Lots can change between now and January.

Tell us about your character concept, friend.

>>50139445
Have some wizards drop them in pits, pit them to sleep, or mind control one of them. O any other wizard trick really
Or have some flying enemies or dudes in trees drop tangle foot bags and other hazards on them
Or have a bunch of lower level Barbarians bumrush them and sunder their shit
Or come Rust Monsters and a Gelatinous Cube
Or have some ghosts and things duck then up.
Or, gasp, make then have to deal with skill checks and intrigue.

In otherwords, stop throwing vidya game random encounters at them, and instead make then deal with realistic dangers and troubles.

>>50139682
Lets look at Autism Fighter as an example:

http://pastebin.com/mcN9n7L9

(55+22+40+15)/4 = 33 Attractive

How attractive is that?

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>>50139672
I was doing modifier, not straight score.

>>50139682
Is that good enough for a team mom?

>>50139712
>In otherwords, stop throwing vidya game random encounters at them

Nigga, you literally just wrote A FULL LIST OF "VIDEO GAME RANDOM ENCOUNTERS".

The reason I DON'T do all of those things is BECAUSE the only fights that they get into are ones that make sense within the confines of the story, which means that the majority of their fights are against NPCs in mostly-mundane locations rather than in a place where random Barbarians or Rust Monsters of flying enemies would just randomly show up.

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>>50139404
Remember; even magic follows specific laws and patterns. What do you think wizards are?

But if you go a step beyond that, and apply the method not only to what will become magitek but also use those magical things as inspiration for purely scientific advancements:

Much like metamagic, many advanced scientific breakthroughs are little 'tricks' and ways of using the physical laws to our advantage, whether something simple like tempering metal, something slightly more complex like harnessing explosive gasses and electricity to use the resulting chain explosions as a source of mechanical energy, to bending spacetime over the counter and raping her till she begs you to stop and will send you wherever you damn well please across the cosmos if you just promise to pull out.

Purely scientific advancement is the longer harder road, the 'light side' to magic's 'dark side' if you will... but the results will be EX.

Do make sure to develop shielding against those antitech fields, because fucking hell devs, antimagic was already a bad enough idea...

>>50139728

>That spoiler

Of course it is, you're not stunning but you're pleasant to look at, people would feel comfortable holding your hand and taking a night on the town.

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>>50139693

>mfw crunched numbers for wolf-girl
>mfw 14.75
>mfw she's got looks *and* a figure and lightning punches oh god.

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>>50139765
>A lot of people
But I'd only go with the team dad

>>50139725
Dear christ.

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>>50139799

Does this party even have one?

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>>50139404
You know what happens when angry military scientists finally get their hands on God?

All of that power. All of that energy... Just waiting for us to find a way to store and unleash it against our foes...

>>50139795

I get the feeling we're either going to end up romantic rivals, or in the same bed...

But knowing us its going to be both.

>>50139799

Immortal spark aasimar dilf oradin?

>>50139575
Is this before or after items? Like I can imagine inherent bonus would help from tomes, but is it otherwise just racial and levelling, or are you also automatically hotter-looking when you put on those gauntlets of ogre strength?

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Why doesn't /pfg/ have a living world type game? We have so many GMs, and autists here how do we not just have a "get your character sheet okayed, and get playing" style of game for everyone?

>>50139753
You misunderstand what I meant
What I meant was "stop complaining about martial doing good in encounters that suit them, and instead start giving them things that can't be solved with head-on hit hings until dead murderhobo encounters"

Also, if your characters are that high level, and he getting relatively well known, it would make less sense if the higher level threats and things didn't have such contingencies, resources,and plans in place.

You're at level 7, past the point of what he Earth humans are capable of at peak strength. You need to start taking the magical nature of the world into account, and make them confront and experience what it's like to be in a world against equally capable and intelligent beings.
Which generally means that slug-out melee combat tends to stop being the first preference of engagement.

>>50139753
I mean if that's the case it sounds like your guys have just outgrown the environment you've constructed. Your only options at this point are either to introduce a new threat to the environment they're in or send them packing somewhere else that'll provide a better challenge.

Or, alternatively, send them into trap city. If they have no rogue-like character a bunch of well placed traps will give them a huge run for their money, provide it's got a high enough DC check so they don't just auto-pass on a rolled 5.

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>>50139810
Not yet.

I'm still looking.

>captcha: Palidano pete
Maybe someday.

>>50139728
>I was doing modifier, not straight score.
Yeah, I was too. I was trying to unironically say that a score greater than one is good, but putting >1 at the beginning of the line resulted in greentext because we're on 4chan and I didn't think of that because I am retarded.

>>50139836
>Is this before or after items?

This is always before items, the numbers only change when you make permanent, inherent boosts or penalties to your score.

Boots of Ogre Strength won't boost your strength, however a Tome of Physical Perfection will (same with ability score boosts from Mythic or leveling.)

>>50139838
Because living world type games are a nightmare to coordinate between what is canon and what is not and requires someone impartial people can agree upon. We do not have such a person.

>>50139814
In the Iron Gods campaign an insane AI is on the verge of becoming a dark god of technology.

>>50139795
do you find that shocking?

>>50139810

There was that Tiefling shut-in who wants to be a hero and the artisan swordsman, I guess?

>>50139888
Tiefling shut in is certainly old enough to be a team dad...

>>50139877
Isn't that just the job of a GM normally? If anything having a couple other GMs to bounce ideas off of seems like it would make GMing easier.

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>a player brings in their new character
>it's a drop-dead gorgeous, brown-skinned blue dragon blooded sorcerer girl
>my character has no idea what the fuck to think about this and tries desperately to not stare
>manages to succeed and fail at the same time
>cue jokes from the party about what my character's mother will say once she catches wind of the new cute girl in the party

Being the only male PC in the party is a wild, wild ride.
>the only person in the game confirmed for lewd is the GM
>other players have teased, but don't go any further
>no chance in hell of having a QT dragon sorcerer waifu

>>50139445
In my shitty opinion, you shouldn't be trying to kill your players. You can still have a fun campaign where you're not risking dying every single game because the enemies are way overtuned. In fact, those are the games where I have less fun. The way I see it, the enemies should be just almost too difficult for them to handle, but not too much.
As for ways to challenge them, be more creative and throw some things they will have difficulty with. You're probably just giving them enemies that hit hard, have a lot of hp, or there are a bunch of them and that's as deep as it goes. Focus more on making the combat interesting rather than hard.
This is all just from a player's prospective. A shitter at that.

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>>50139903

And the former Aldori swordsman is 32!

>>50139914

The fact she's way out of your league means you're going to wind up with her after a hilarious series of coincidences and forced pairings!

>>50139907
Trust me, it doesn't. Getting a group of 20 to agree upon canon. Especially when individual characters, or character plans, interact is a fucking recipe for disaster. Why do you think 99.9% of the time living world games are shit? Also the vast majority of GMs don't want to run something in someone else's world.

Also what if you, as a player, are told your last session is no longer canon because the head GM didn't approve it?

>>50139914
>brown-skinned blue dragon blooded sorcerer girl
Noice

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>>50139914
>brown-skinned blue dragon blooded sorcerer girl

>>50139445
Okay, around level 8-10 usually (but could be 6-7 for some classes or good builds) characters are really leaving the realm of "normal humanity". You're starting to head into Dr.Strange or Ultraman territory.

These are no longer characters who fight a fucking jello cube or a dinosaur as if it were the final boss of the greatest adventure of their lives. These are characters who SLAUGHTER entire hordes of such targets *WHILE* discussing what they should do next, because their problems are beginning to clearly move above and beyond the typical small scale military matters.

Their problems should become more and more esoteric, with enemies coming at them in larger groups if weak, or fights against truly insane shit. By level 12-14 a highly optimized group's "boss battle" might be a motherfucking god.

A half-assedly optimized character at 7-8 - that is to say someone who didn't actively fuck themselves over by purposefully selecting things that make them worse like monkey-lunge, is starting to become a killing machine. One who at LEAST went just "hey, this "power attack" or this "rapid shot" thing sound pretty badass, I'll take that!" is now making professional soldiers piss their boots like motherfucking Brock Sampson was charging for their position.

And while they're handling like +6CR worth of numbers, THAT gives you the time to relax because they're no longer putting five heads together and outthinking your plot in minutes flat despite your ineptitude at giving the clues they should've had.

tldr; you're basically worrying wrong.

>>50139888
>>50139903
The tiefling is more like "team weird grandpa" than team dad. He was like, 92 or something?

Rolled 5, 4 + 3 = 12 (2d6 + 3)

Aasimar Monk rolling for ability to unarmed strike with dickslaps

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>>50139993
You're just mad you can't use the power of the Shoryucans

>>50139990
>He was like, 92 or something?

Old enough to have lived most his life before Sandpoint was even a town.

>>50139919
>In my shitty opinion, you shouldn't be trying to kill your players. You can still have a fun campaign where you're not risking dying every single game because the enemies are way overtuned.

I want you to stop for a second, and realize just why this is a horribly dumb statement.

>>50139970
Just have a better head GM? Also people posting in the GM chat before about what they're going to run seems like an alright solution to that.

>>50139691
This honestly. One of my DMs obviously had a backup plan for that night since it seemed liked I ended up doing something he didn't expect. That backup made the end of the session even better than I think it could have been if everything went according to plan.

>>50139870
So... party musclegirl has 14.25
And the guy she's after has I think 17.something

>>50139985
>settings don't account for high level characters
>they don't use them as psuedo-armies
>armies haven't become obsolete due to the much simpler logstics of fielding a few high level PCs against the enemy.
>PC's haven't banded together in PMC-like adventuring parties
Why

>>50140023
Ok, you know what, sure. You organize it. Because I'm not willing to.

>>50140006
I kind of thought it was dumb as I was posting it but I posted it anyway. Hopefully you can at least get my sentiment.

>>50139697
>spoiler

That's the thing, I have no idea.

>>50140067
pleasedon'tbeanothermusclepunchgirl

>>50140049
High level characters are extremely rare and many countries will want them as far away as possible before they get quite to that point.

It's a fucking tragedy when one of them gets some ideas about rulership, and the average kingdom *HOPES* the 'hero' will leave for greater things.

You keep an army, and you hope to have some mid-levels as your high elites, but high level characters shouldn't even be constrained to that planet.

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>>50139985
>Brock Sampson
Truly a Cadillac amongst men. I swear he must have some sort of feat that let's him apply full Str bonus on his knife

>>50140067

Well, what kind of characters do you tend to play?

>>50140091
Oh, likely not, I'm already playing a not-so-flattering one with a shield.

>>50140049

Ruling a little patch of land on golarion is meh when you can rule an entire plane of existence.

>>50140004
I can't decide if that's amazing or really stupid.

>>50140049
Because, logistically speaking, a single amazing soldier may win a battle, but they cannot win a war, you need an army for that.
At least that's how Metal Gear describes it.

>>50140106
Honestly, I've played everything from a Gunslinger to a Brawler to an Inquisitor. Usually I just end up playing whatever seems like it'd be cool at the time.

Like right now I'm wondering whether I want shapeshifting shenanigans or STORM, EARTH, AND FIRE, HEED MY CALL.

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>>50140053
I'm trying to figure out why that hasn't happened yet, not trying to ruin your day. I value your criticism and I think that's an important pitfall to keep in mind but I think that with all the talent and experience we have here in /pfg/ we could get our heads out of our asses just far enough to keep a campaign off the ground for a small while.

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>>50140131
Its fucking amazing i assure you

>>50140094
I'm saying the PCs-as-armies levels would be like 13 maximum.
Wouldn't it be easier to just pay a single guy and not have to go through supporting supply lines and shit?

>>50140116
oh hai there gisae

>>50140094
Not to mention that if you try and rely on high level characters for all of your fighting needs that's just begging to have those characters get assassinated.

Wouldn't even necessarily need a Rogue for that either. Just get like, 30 low level wizards with wands of magic missile and even the best fighter in the world is probably going to go down if he tries to take them on all by himself.

>>50140129
>Ruling a little patch of land on golarion is meh when you can rule an entire plane of existence.

Who the fuck wants to do that, anon.

Most people just want a comfy life with financial security.

Honestly I just find it silly how people assume a high-level character *has* to settle for nothing less than total planar domination.

>>50140140
>with all the talent and experience we have here in /pfg/
We don't have a lot of either.

Man i should write a new bloodrager guide

the one on the zenithgames page is horrid.

>>50140151
Yeah, I spend quite a bit of time here.

Which one are you?

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Yo all, thanks for helping out with the KOP 4 playtest! It's gonna be ending this Weds, so make sure if you have anymore thoughts or such about it that you get them in. And be sure to comment on the correct section if you want to be listed in the playtester credits.

As for news from the N, I do have the playtest for Legendary Vigilantes II scheduled for late Nov/early Dec, and that'll include:

>Kinetic Lancer: Basically a god damn dragoon
>Omnishot Sniper: DBZ lazer spam kineticist
>Carapacian Predator: Think Shino from Naruto, insect based kineticist
>Unchained Kineticist: How I would retool the class while trying to keep it as close to the base class as possible to avoid issues with archetypes and such

LK 2 will probably be my last kineticist themed book (at least for a while), and I'm really looking forward to having it finished off in time for next year!

>>50140184
the DM

>>50140162

Thats the thing though. You dont get to high level without that kind of drive and aspiration. If you just wanted a comfy life with your village crush you retire at like level 5.

>>50140190
Ugh, meant Legendary Kineticists 2, not Legendary Vigilantes 2.

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>>50139948
It's too early to tell given that the character was in for exactly one session, and I don't know the player enough to think they'd actually go for anything. It would be fun, though. My character's mother would be absolutely ecstatic. Goddamn elves.

>>50139981
>>50140005
You have no idea

>>50140129
>every high level character is a full caster or is somehow optimized to use demiplanes

>>50140196
Right, you're still watching me.

>>50140202
All good hun. How goes LV: Vigilantes anyways?

>>50140206
Always. Especially when you think i'm not

>>50138237
I'd think about applying if I were allowed to play my homebrew race.

>Character has been traveling with a varisian gypsy caravan for the past 16 years, working as a contortionist when the caravan performs and a jeweler out of her wagon while the caravan travels. When shit starts to go down though she unleashes her psionic powers.

the homebrew race is Jel and she's an especially good contortionist due to having no bones in her body

Her caravan came by sandpoint to perform, trade and in general be fun. Due to her history there she's friends with some of the locals, even if she doesn't see them more than once every couple months.

>>50140198
>You dont get to high level without that kind of drive and aspiration.

Of course you can; Maybe you simply can't settle down until the BBEG is dealt with, maybe the BBEG took your fiance and you need to get him back, maybe you're really feeling it and want to ride this thing out for all it's worth.

At the end of a harrowing journey I figure most PCs might want to lead a quiet life - one filled with luxury and wealth yes, but not being the lord of the Universe.

>>50140203
Reigen best girl

>>50140209
Seconded on questions of LV. I missed the playtest and really want to see how it plays.

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>>50139575
>>50139693
>>50139795
Welp, time to do the math.
>16+12+16+8=52
>52/4=13
>mfw my dhampir, despite all evidence suggesting that she should be awful to be around and borderline-Tomoko in appearance, is actually decently-attractive

>>50140231

We'll just say that she cleans up nicely.

>>50140245
I bet she just takes off her glasses and gets rid of the ponytail.

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>>50140209
The editor has a 'real job', so the layout was delayed for a few days. It should have been out this Friday, but we're hoping it'll be out by tomorrow.

For the content it'll have, the following archetypes from the playtest are in there, with the other ones being shifted to different projects:

>Alchemical Scoundrel
>Consumed Vigilante
>Dread Champion
>Fortune Thief
>Plague Scion
>Protean Prowler
>Shadow Savant
>Symbiotic Slayer

There's also been someone trying to get permission to enter the doc for the past few weeks now, this russian google account.

Personally, I think this one turned out better than the last, and I know that was due in part to the feedback I gathered here.

LV has done pretty well to the point where the publisher is fine with me still doing playtest, so really that's just golden.

I am coming to you in my hour of need /pfg/, my group just finished our 3rd session tonight and it is the most mind numbingly boring thing ever. We are still level one, the games never start on time and all we do is slow RP for 3 and half hours.

I spend most of the time watching a movie or something. The RP moves so slow I can get up and come back 10 minutes later and I dont miss anything. I dont know what to do. I try to move people along to do more exciting things but it seems like everyone is doing their own thing or just going with the flow and hoping someone else takes charge. Or I just have bad ideas, I dont know.

Do I tough it out for a few more sessions or just let them know that it isnt for me?

>>50140254
Awesome! I was building a Warlock vigilante the other day and someone pointed me to LV and LV:V. I don't have LV yet, but hopefully sometime before christmas I can set aside some money to get it.

>>50140257
Bring it up with everyone. If it continues to be just as dull afterwards then stop going to game.

>>50140245
she has to work at it, unlike punchfighter.

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>>50140270
LV:V will have all of the pro warlock content that'll help make things work, Drifter's going to get a copy of it to make sure they can add it properly to the Warlock guide they have so that it'll be accurate.

>>50140257
Leave the group you inbred fuck.

>>50140257
talk to the gm maybe

>>50140274
>>50140307

I just dont want anyone to feel bad by telling them that I am bored with their RP. I am playing a cleric and it is the party's only source of healing too.

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>>50140231

I'm trying to get the Kaijisu sisters in a family pose of justice.

I think Onryou is super into it, Ameiko is bemused, while Shizuka is exasperated and doesn't want to be there.

>>50140321
>I just dont want anyone to feel bad by telling them that I am bored with their RP

THEN STOP ASKING FOR ADVICE HOLY SHIT

If you don't like a game, leave. If you are too much of a pussy to leave, stop complaining, or man up and talk to people like a real human being.

There are LITERALLY NO OTHER OPTIONS.

>>50140331

Holy shit anon calm down. Not everyone is as well adjusted as you are.

>>50140356
If you can't figure this shit out, then you are literally too retarded to function in the world. This is kindergarten shit.

Aight, so I'm pulling an idea for this RotJR mess.

>Android
>Gunsmoke Mystic for one half of Gestalt, Other half being Trench Fighter Dip
>Best Stats are Dex with Int and Con behind it
>She's gonna have a big gun she's treasuring because it's her dead father's gift to her.
>Looking for someone to treasure

So now I'm at an impasse over what to do once out of the dip. Should I pull Sniper!Slayer, Investigator, Alchemist (Probs one more on the bomby side), or some other mess? Gunslinger I'm counting out since Gunsmoke essentially does all that and then some.

>>50140398

Where are all these ideas posted at? All I see are two threads that dont have character ideas.

>>50140427
>>50140398

Far as i know all the character idea discussion has taken place here in the /pfg/.

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>tfw want to be in one of these lewd campaigns
>already in four campaigns
I just wanna do some lewd for once. Hell getting bullied by the girls of the party would make me happy enough, too.

>>50140456
>in 4 campaigns

FUCK YOOOUUU

>>50140456

You can jam one more campaign in your gaping schedule.

>>50140464
Well three of them are campaigns that my main group holds, although they dislike lewds of any kind.

>>50140464
Man you would hate my group, we're currently playing like 7 games and do a session for one of them every 4-5 days or so.

>>50140456
>>already in four campaigns
I wish I had ONE campaign. God damn.

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>>50140502
>>50140512

>>50140456

>tfw I've got 3 campaigns
>basically one every other day

Fugg

>>50140541
TFW just got into 3 games at once that all look like they'll be fun. It'll be nice to play in something after all my games died at the same time

>>50140557
fuck you all

i am in one and i am trapped as the DM

>>50140494
Well I suppose I could try to make room. For now I only seem to be free on weekends and Tuesdays. What days are the lewder campaigns running?

>>50140557

Tell us about the three!

>>50140398
>Gunsmoke Mystic
>INT main

What?

>>50140254
Hey Jolly, mind elaborating a bit on what each o the archetypes theme is?

i wish i could get into even one campaign

kill me.

>>50140456
Shieeet son, I'm in two groups, with one off-and-on 1-on-1 thing, and I was afraid that I was in too many to keep track of to join another. How can you even handle 4 campaigns at once?

>>50140618

Maybe you should sharpen your teeth on Roll20 LFG so you have a better chance here.

>>50140632
implying games here actually exist

looking at you wrath of the righteous

>>50140622
As the anon from >>50140512 all I can say is that playing each of the various sessions we're doing constantly certainly doesn't hurt. We're all a bunch of lower 20-somethings with adjustable schedules with our jobs so anytime we're not doing anything else we're playing, which helps keep things fresh in our minds. We also use social media to talk to each other in our downtime and theorycraft what we plan on doing in between games.

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>>50140584
Eh. How about I just gush about a character I'm excited to play?

>>50140456
>Already in five games
>Half of them have a less than 50% chance of running any week
>Last week only one game ran

This is what makes me feel like I can fit more games in without being overwhelmed.

>>50140660

Oh get over it, games die all the time and moping won't bring it back.

>>50140701
>already in 0 games
>rl friends are flakes
>going to die alone and a virgin

Why live?

>>50140720
i will sperg about it for 3(three) more days, and then i will stop.

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>mfw no group for 5 months
>last group died from PF burnout and wanting to try 5e instead

t-they'll be back, right /pfg/?

>>50140741
no they're lost to you, off to playing better games

Sounds like some anons should just run an AP with 3pp stuff included and others would be happy to join.

If it's also lewd then you'll get at least a dozen applicants.

Running an AP takes minimal prep and having lewd content means you don't even need to come up with puzzles because a straightforward obstacle with a lewd solution keeps the players engaged.

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>>50140616
Sure, just give me a sec.

>Alchemical Scoundrel: This is almost just "Give away half your talents for alchemist casting without needing to give away your specialization with a few kick ass talents here, but not the strongest bombs."
>Consumed Vigilante: Here's the "Give up your second identity and social talents for more HP and bonuses on survival and losing your identity, becoming less a person and more a cause (like V)."
>Dread Champion: Hey wanna be an anti paladin but not be chaotic evil? Wanna smite whoever you want? Here ya go!
>Fortune Thief: The inspiration for this one is a seeeeeeeekret, but this is about stealing luck from opponents and using it to power your own abilities, including cheating death.
>Plague Scion: You like diseases? You like making diseases that can be disguised as poisons, ravage people within rounds, and infecting people just by standing around them? That's rude, you're rude.
>Protean Prowler: Now here's the shape changer archetype, where you can choose to modify yourself like an eidolon, change shapes into other creatures, or do both at the same time!
>Shadow Savant: I'd tell you the inspiration for this, but I don't think you'd BELIEVE IT (It was Zato-1 from GG), you create shadow clones of yourself which slowly become real, let you change places with them, and use them to explode and other cool stuff.
>Symbiotic Slayer: The main archetype, this allows you to live with a symbiote and play Venom, gaining protection, power, and all sorts of sick abilities, like making weapons out of your symbiote, allowing it to attack for you, and all sorts of other sick stuff.

>>50140776
if you make it gestalt 25pb you're basically guaranteed enough players

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>>50140754
>5e
>better

If you want the most cliche, barebones character creation system on par with 4e, then sure its "better"

I can credit its fixed action economy rules, and movement rules, but god damn 5e is boring as fuck.