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Can we have battle zone Fenris already please? Edition.

>Rules databases
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg

>FAQ’s and Errata (outdated but official)
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

> The Black Library(Stay the fuck away from the clowns)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb
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>>50134028

>Can we have battle zone Fenris already please?
This. I want to see space furries BTFO.
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Claimed by the Sisters.

Heretics get fucked.
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Do I get a Valk/Vendetta, some Russes, some Hellhounds, or hwat
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>>50134028
What to expect from BZF? Besides TS and SW?
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Blam blam, blam blam.
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7th for please don't leave Grey Knights out of Fenris pt 2: Heretic Boogaloo
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>>50133589
>he can tag 4 people with specialist ammo
no he cant, go re-read the SiA rules: they REPLACE that profile, and are all rapid fire
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>>50134100
That picture hurts me emotionally. What's it from?
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>>50134073
>I want to see space furries BTFO.
I'll see you soon when you endlessly shitpost about how GW fucks the thousand sons all over again and space wolves win yet again.
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>>50134119
Why?

No one expects the NPCs to win.
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>>50134118
Apparently it was from a cut episode by Disney. "Donald Duck: Polar Trappers 1938"
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There's a thread up asking how to fix Necrons. What the fuck? What's wrong with Necrons?
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>>50134166
Thanks. Doesn't look that vintage, but I guess it is. Great 4chan picture.
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Is it worth scraping the snow off the bases and starting over?
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Do the Sisters of Battle sexually haze new recruits?
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>>50134195
You don't like the snow? What's your goal?
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>>50134158
>Kelly's pet chapter
>NPC
>not chaos
Oh, you poor delusional bastard.
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>>50134174
>What's wrong with Necrons?
They aren't eldar
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>>50134198
It's shit like this that makes the rest of the 40k community revile SoB players.
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>>50134230
It's just a joke, homie.
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>>50134206

Snow looks like arse when I take it to a table that's urban/wasteland themed.
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>>50134230
Do you think he's actually a SoB player?
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>>50134212
You think I'm talking about the space wolves?
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>>50134247
Yeah. Paintwork looks decent as fuck, so I'd be sad about starting over.

How many are like that? Your whole army?

You gonna be able to get the snow off clean, or is it gonna look like shit?
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>>50134252
That guy will be. He's been doing this for the past few days, sisterposting and saying how much he wants to stsrt then, and has the cash to do it, as well as starting them mostly for the hipster value.
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>>50134100
They will leave them out and we will cry together
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>>50134247
I would believe Westlands, but on urban tables isn't that bad
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>>50134273
I don't think that's rich anon. But if it is, knock it off, dude.
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>>50134266
Yes?, you weren't? Sorry then.
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>>50134230

Don't group them with us.
He'll post his pewter minis once he buys them, then he'll shelve them when he gets frustrated with cleaning them off, or trying to prime them correctly, or paint them or play them well.
Masochists play this army. Morons spam them on a Japanese yodeling image site.
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>>50134273
I like their lore and shit, too.

Also, metal models. Plastic isn't as cool.
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What are we thinking for a 500pts list? Good enough?

>MFW the same amount of points only gets you 7 models for Cult Mechanicus
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Can an officer issue the same order multiple times per turn?

Can he issue the same order to the same unit multiple times per turn (say, if they fail the first time)?

I don't see anything explicitly denying it in the codex.
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>>50134305
Lots of people being dicks today.

You know I've built metal models before, right? I played Hordes. Half that game is metal models.
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>>50134305
>Hurr durr my army the weakest boo hop
There is a reason sisters haven't been updated mate
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If you guys don't like Sistersposting, I'll stop. I'm just excited about the game.
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>>50134340
They're not even the weakest.
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>>50134321
Boys before toys, drop the alphas taser goats and all the other sahit, acquire more bodies
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>have ~40 sisters/celestians/etc (3 meltas, 3 flamers, 6 storm bolters, and a banner), 5 seraphim, 10 repentia, a penitent engine, an immolator, a canoness, a hospitaller, and an exorcist [and an inquisitor + retinue and kamazov] given to me long ago from a family member that used to play
>have minimal interest playing a trash army made of women

what do
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Is there ever a reason to take supa kannon on a Battlewagon rather than on a Big Trakk?
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If you want to play sisters just order them from a Chinese retailer, full army for £150. Currently painting my Celestine and gonna finish another 5 sisters before bedtime.
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>>50134398
Throw them out? Sell them on eBay?

How stupid are you?
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>>50134412
>Ordering from chinks.
>Ever.
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>>50134321
The Arquebus is a trap option, don't take it. It's unfortunately really bad at what it does, as massed haywire is far more likely to take out a vehicle than it.

Mathhammer wise, Vanguard will always do more damage than Rangers, drop them for more Vanguard. Eradication Beamer's meh in my opinion, as it requires you to get closer to be more effective, which means melta and power fists are more likely to be able to harm it. Take the other option, iirc it's better, but I don't remember it's statline.
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>>50134398
Melt them and drink it.
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>>50134413

He was baiting to make the sister posters jealous anon but you took the bait, well done
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>>50134411
No
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>>50134413
Will the price go up after they do/do not release plastic sisters? Why would I throw them out?

How stupid are you?
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>>50134431
Why would I be jealous? I'm gonna buy way more than that from GW. That's not even a full army.
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>>50134424

What's the problem? Don't like cheap warhammer anon?
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>Felinids
>FeliNIDS
>NIDS

Are Catgirls vanguard organisms?
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>>50134341
There's nothing wrong with it, the problem is you hipsterfagging by claiming the superiority of metal models and wanting to play them because they're one of the least played armies. Just wait 'til February/Maybe December, if they have plastics by then you'll be better off as they'll likely be cheaper or even have their own Start Collecting box which will likely have a good amount of savings.
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>>50134434
Nobody wants your models, Anon. They're probably put together or painted like shit.
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>>50134028

Can we change the Sister shit (seriously its getting old) and talk about something else?

Like Dark Eldar, what the fuck do I do after the starter set? Don't know what i want to buy
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Is there any fluff reason why Sisters would fight Space Marines?
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Didn't get any answers last night

Had a question regarding the Space Wolves Axenought. I noticed that the profile for the blizzard shield actually has it as a weapon with user str and ap 2. Does this mean the shield grants the dreadnought an additional attack in close combat or do you choose which weapon to use when allocating hits?
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>>50134468
theyre metal faggot
get rekt
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>>50134450
I'm not Jewish when it comes to cash. I bet you'd pick a dime off the ground if you dropped one.

>>50134458
I like metal models. Unloved armies are cool. Pretty sure the guys at my FLGS will be happy to play against Sisters for once.
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>>50134489
If you're playing to win in tournaments, Bikes and Venoms. Nothing else. Look up Tabletop Tactics latest "No Retreat" tournament report. If playing to win for fun, bikes, venoms, scourges, maybe a ravager or 2, and some Incubi.
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Opinion on Shas'O Ra'lai? Considering picking him up. Seems very strong, yet very costly ($ and points) and Gets Hot is never fun.
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>>50134504
What did he mean by this?
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>>50134432
Figured.
I've a looted Russ so the armour profile would fit but the custom gun is just so big a killkannon feels insufficient rules wise but yeah... 180 point model with av10 rear is silly even for Orks.
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>>50134090
GK formations
DA formations
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>>50134501
The shield does grant an extra attack, as there is no claise regarding it not granting one, unlike other upgrades.
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>>50134532
What's that art from?
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>>50134507

Well thats a little disappointing, rather liked painting the infantry.

Are mandrakes and Scourges viable?
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What types of units do I want to focus on in a Blood Angels list?

I feel like I have the ability to include plenty of melta and flamers to deal with armor and infantry. FMCs and Riptides could be a real problem though.
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>>50134495
Sure. Sisters are often used to "watch" Marines that the Inquisition is giving the stink eye. Alternatively Sisters seem to be getting corrupted all the damned time in Black Library stuff.
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>>50134489
Dark Eldar are MSU in an internet environment that forgets MSU exists due to win at all costs lists.

If you go bare bones, forget about first blood and kill point games, and just concentrate on getting as many dark lances and splinter weapons on the table as humanly possible they are a very fun and competitive army.

But deathstars are all the rage right now so you will be told they are a "bad" army despite MSU being the perfect counter for the bullshit meta at the moment.
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>>50134489

I recently started playing deldar again after selling all my models, I bought:

3 Starter Box
Convert Raiders into Ravagers (had to buy parts from china)
Sell 2 archons on ebay
Make the squads into 5 man squads with a blaster each (again, extra blasters from china)

5 Venoms, 4 for troops 1 for HQ

A talos a cronos and a haemonculus for the dark artisan formation.


Later you might wanna get 4 more talos for the corpse theif claw, some more Reaver Jetbikes as they're awesome and you should be set.

From there you have all the essentials, flavour to your own tastes.
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>>50134543
I know, I like the infantry, too. Maybe another squad of Kabalites to run as Blasterborn on venoms.
Mandrakes can be kind of cheesy if you take a butt ton of them and infiltrate the fuck out of the enemy. Scourges are insanely good at anti-armor due to Haywire Blasters + Jump Infanty. 1-2 squads, max, though.
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>>50134538
mandrakes might be the single worst unit in 40k

Scourges are extremely good
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>>50134575
Why'd you sell all your models?
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>>50134579

Okay, well i will probably get a box of Scourges, more warriors, and maybe a venom or raider
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>>50134589

I used it to fund another army which I sold a year ago, took a break and now I'm back on the Dark Eldar hype
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>>50134516
Welcome to playing orkz, were we don't even have base 3+ to our basic infantry or obliterators to carry ourselves.
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https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Chaos-Daemons-Flesh-Hounds-of-Khorne

Sneaky fucks are listing Finecast models as resin.

These were the first models I bought. Shit sucked dog dick.
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>>50134568

Okay thats good to know, I wanted to field a army that was fun to play against ( don't want to piss off players as I have no warhammer friends at the moment) and was somewhat viable so I don't lose every game.
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>>50134614

If you don't mind them being effectively suicide squads you can take 6 squads of 5 scourges, 4 of which with special/Heavy weapons and deep strike them.

This would rely on you having some sort of reserve manipulation and some adjoined characters for Webway portals but it's doable. Foot slogging Kabalite Warriors is never ever ever going to work as you have no way to buff them/provide them with cover within the codex. If you fancy that though you could ally in some eldar farseer or harlequin shadowseer to protect them
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>>50134325
ompany Commanders can issue two orders and Platoon commanders can issue a single order as they have previously. New additions to the Voice of Command are Tempestor Prime characters which can issue a single order, Commissar Yarrick which can issue two orders, and Tank Commanders which can issue a single order, from their own unique list of three orders.
You can issue the same order more than once but not to the same unit
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>>50134642
Finecast is resin you idiot.
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>>50134538
https://warhammerart.com/shop/imperial/blood-of-the-martyrs/
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>>50134656
Yeah, but Finecast is garbage. Finecast got shit on by everyone, so they changed the listing. They used to list Finecast like it was a bonus.
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>>50134648
no one will be mad at you for playing DE, most people view DE with respect since it's not an easy army to play.

Just keep at it, they are not forgiving so do not fall into the trap of "I need to get X unit because this other unit sucked."

The army is a high mobility glass cannon, if your shit is out in the open and not getting cover or jinking it's ass off then it's your fault not the army 9/10.
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>>50134652

Yeah I wasn't planning on getting very much, just wanted a uniti that would be fun to add to matches when I needed some more anti-tank.

Also I wouldn't plan on taking warriors without having a troop transport though.
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>>50134690
It's been changed for a long time, Anon. GW sells Finecast resin, they aren't hiding it.

Calm down.
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>>50134538
Ffg blood of martyrs - a sisters of battle sourcebook
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>>50134648

As an experienced dark eldar player with a large group of friends who play all sorts of armies, they enjoy playing my Deldar everytime Why? because we have no bullshit rules/rerolls/cheese to piss them off with and we play a death or glory style. Play whatever you want to though man, you'll find a way to make your favourite models work for you (even if it's only in kill team)
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>>50134697

Since its a glass cannon army would you suggest painting a few pieces of terrain to bring to matches?
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The website has called it a resin casting for a long time.
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>>50134678
>"The image was featured on the cover of Blood of Martyrs, an expansion for the Dark Heresy RPG game from Fantasy Flight Games."
>Blood of Martyrs

Does this book have good Sisters lore? I don't roleplay.

Also, I'm surprised GW is letting someone else do the 40K RPG shit.
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>>50134713
>>50134690
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>>50134703
I'm so mad, though.

H-h-hold me back!
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>>50134716
FFG and GW are through.
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>>50134698

In that case, I'd definitely recommend scourges with 4 Haywire blasters deepstriking near your designated target. When it goes off it feels great. Also remember you can take a single blaster per 5 Kabalite Warriors which is a great anti tank weapon.
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>>50134706

Do dark Eldar do well in kill teams or small points battles? I feel like their codex is geared towards 1000 point ish engagements.
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>>50134739
Was it an emotional breakup?
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>>50134427
Thanks for the advice!

In all honesty though, I'm not trying to minmax it or anything like that. I'm aiming for a cool-looking force that will give a reasonable fight.

I'm going to grow the army larger, I just want a 500pts to start so I can play right away
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>>50134786
sounded like FFG was totally unaware GW threw their engagement into the toilet
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>>50134090
Lord of Change never. Instead we get Magnus and his god's son.
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What do you think the new sisters will look like? Is there a chance GW could fuck them up?
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>>50134759

In my experience they're better suited to 1850, where you can flood the field with targets. Whereas most armies buy something big and shiny the higher points go, which they can afford to since they're not made of glass, dark eldar simply go for more redundancy. That means more bikes more venoms more raiders and ravagers so the enemy has more threats to deal with, at 1000 we don't necessarily have the budget to flood the field AND maintain a good balance of poison and darklight weapons. Again this is just my opinion from my experience.

Killteam I have done reasonably well in using a Venom and 5 Trueborn. It feels appropriate to send a small elite squad into KT (even though the Trueborn would rather watch half-born do the work from above). The ability for Trueborn to take a variety of special and heavy weapons makes them awesome and the venom, whilst 12 shots is overkill, provides a mobile threat that should keep your boys alive.
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>>50134028

So I've been away from the hobby for awhile and all my paints have dried, my spray paint gone and my glue dry.

What equipment do I need to buy to do that shading outline effect I see on GW painted Dark eldar armour. My last army was night goblins so I haven't done much of that.
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>>50134839
If GW's recent casts are anything to go by new Sisters will be absolutely fucking beautiful IF THE RUMORS ARE TRUE

inb4 >hurrdurr multiple reliable sources confirmed POST THE FUCKING SOURCES THEN
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>>50134090
possibly tzaangors/acolytes

they're from WHQ, but like daemons it would make sense to have some overlap
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>>50134028
where can I get this gun for my Guardsmen in reasonable quantity?
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>>50134839
I hope they don't make them Marine sized. Very few examples of non-astartes models in power armour.
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>>50134839
>Is there a chance GW could fuck them up?
Always. But I have more faith in them than most. I think one of the reasons they've been putting it off for so long is due to the tides of SJWs baying at the gates lately, but that fad might be passing, so who knows.
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>>50134198
Yes
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>>50134855

the edge highlighting? jus a small detail brush and use the side of the bristles along the edge to leave a fine line of whatever colour you're going for
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>>50134174
General lack of options. They need to bring back the cryptek disciplines and give Lords more gear to help specialize squads. Bring back Build-a-C'tan, or at least un-randomize them. Random shit is usually shit, and it's not even like Necrons have a thing for randomized tables like Chaos and Orks.
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>>50134839
Doubt it. I don't see how.

They already don't show any skin. There's no "sexism" in the artwork. Nothing needs to be made more mature, or whatever the fuck SJW faggots complain about.

Worst we're gonna get is a bad codex.
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>>50134891
Knew it.
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>>50134893

Thats it? it seems like they are using multiple shades for the edges, like 3 different shades. Is just edge highlighting with one colour going to look okay?
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>>50134861
Yeah but the first rumors said the models wer "on ice" for long time. Maybe GW rly had sister models in the back for years... but just waited for the right moment. Maybe they think releasing Sisters NOW will fuck up future TGG releases.
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>>50134895
I hate random shit.

How powerful are Necrons on the tabletop?
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>>50134879
I know a lot of people knock these sketches as amateurish, but I like their look. My teenage self thought the clean pictures of the power armor and terminator armors in the 4th Ed CSM book were way cooler than a lot of the muddy, spiky, weirdly proportioned spreads.
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>>50134879
Genestealer cultists
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>>50134926
TGG releases?
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>>50134934
toughest girls galaxy yadayada
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>>50134879
Genestealer neophytes or Forgeworld
I would try the neophytes as they have 3 options per dude + special weapons, so ppl wh play GSC should have them spare
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>>50134916
>>50134916

Give me an example of the effect you're trying to create
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>>50134934
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>>50134926
>GW caring about random third party releases
Chapterhouse was an exception made an example out of what happens when toeing over the line.
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>>50134340
They're actually stronger than GKs at this point
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>>50134941
What the fuck? Explain yourself. I'm not understanding.
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>>50134968
google it you tart
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>>50134933
>>50134951
both GSC and the Chaos Cultists have their shitty ass arms all around them, how well can I get the rifles separated?

Does anyone have pics of the molds with the naked arms/rifles?
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>>50134509
Pretty damn good. He's a swiss army knife and decently survivable.
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>>50134959
Unofficial releases ars pig disgusting.
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>>50134928
I used to run necrons. My opponents would concede early and I didn't have fun since they were absolutely not having fun because of how badly they'd lose.

Ended up selling 'em, much happier building my 30k Alpha legion army.
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anyone else bought grishnaks sisters? mine arrived the other day

pretty good shit
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>>50134964
Is there a current tier list floating around? I've wanted to make one myself, but between being isolated from the meta where I live now, and the dozens of supplements and minidexes being released, I haven't really been able to keep track beyond Eldar being shitters as usual.
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>>50134998
How did you order? Where you from?
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>>50134990
Is he too much at the 500-750 point range? He'd save me a squishy Ethereal and a Hammerhead purchase.
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So lascannons are better vs AV13+ and TEQs than autocannons?

Realistically, how much AV14 are you going to come across in a game? TEQs?
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>>50135038
i just emailed him he replied within a couple of hours, sent him payment through paypal and they arrived just over a week later
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>>50134980
You did realise there is a box for multipart minis and not only the deathwatch overkill
>Does anyone have pics of the molds with the naked arms/rifles?
GW website
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>>50134321
What program is that?
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>>50135041
really depends on the list, but i'd be wary at that point limit. Hard to say really since he at least provides bs5 markerlights from his drones as well.

Then again i played against him in a 1000pt match this weekend, where he teared my skitarii+inquisition to shreds
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>>50135059
if you are playin against Guard, could be a 3 or 4 leman russ
SM might have one landraider, two if they feel like it.

AV 13 is much more common.
-Imperial knight
-Vindicator/Predator
-Hammerhead
-Necron with shields on
-more expensive dreads (Venerable, Furioso, Contemptor...)
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Just saw this comment on another site:

>"Now if only Sisters could get a reasonably pointed and durable assault vehicle . . ."

Are Immolators too expensive? Forgive me for being newb as fuck.
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>>50135109
How do I counter Skitarii as Eldar in Kill Team? My transport isn't an option and the only way I have of dealing with his multiple Sydonians is a string of lucky rolls with weapon platforms or a dedicated Fire Dragon squad that eats about half of my points.
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>>50135145

Nop they're fine but they're not assault vehicles
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>>50135063
How much were they?

Pics?
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>>50135086
http://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

I got you senpai
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Do you guys think GW will ever release a virtual version of tabletop 40K? It'd be good for testing armies and shit.
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>>50135145
well immolators are not assault vehicles
( sisters need such a thing? I dont think so)

assault vehicle is a special rule that allows you to go out the vehicle and charge a unit in melee.

Immolators are no longer produced or available from GW, btw:
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>>50135164
Fuck didn't mean to make that a reply. Though Skitarii Anon if you do have any input the ngreat.
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>>50135124
so Lascannons aren't as bad as everyone makes them sound?
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>>50135176
Fuck that's pretty dope, thanks!
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>>50135164
scattbikes
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>>50135183
>will GW introduce a means of playing the game that is far less expensive and far more convenient to play than their overpriced model range?

I wouldn't count on it.
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>>50135186
Lascannons have never been bad.
>GW please give sisters tactical berets.
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>>50135186
Depends.
Autocannons have 2 shots so you are less likely to miss or do nothing. And often its better to shoot some hullpoints then hope for the lascannon shot to explode. (Something you did not factor in, lascannons are AP2 which means with a 6 they get the vehicle explode result as they give +1 on the damage table)
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>>50135184
>Immolators are no longer produced or available from GW, btw:

I know.

How many Immolators do Sisters players usually run? Seems like they're a big part of the plan.
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>>50135193
>memebikes
They're actually shit in KT compared to tabletop.
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>>50135063
I emailed him 2 times... got no response. Im from germany. Maybe he dont like us cause he is russian.
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>>50134247
Why remove it altogether? Why not add a little bit of different colors so it looks like they are standing on generic rubble/rock/soil that would (hopefully) blend in with pretty much any environment?
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>>50135210
>>GW please give sisters tactical berets.

I just threw up in my mouth. Fucking gross.
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>>50135235
The usual good SoB stuff is
5 dominions with 4 meltaguns in immolator with Multimelta due to outflank and ignore cover act of faith
exorcist

both can be taken 3x in a single CAD
Dominions are Fast Attack
Exorcists are Heavy Support
So I say 3 minimum
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>>50135164
>>50135185
I dont have alot of experience fighting eldar, but i generally i feel they buckle under massed str5-6, doubly so if you can get ap4. Sydonians should buckle under that as well.
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>>50134879
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Weapons

Buy them third-party from Anvil Industries. They come in a fairly large number of variants, including alternate Lasguns, Stubbers, Autoguns, Autocarbines, Autoguns with Drum-Mags, and such. They also all have combat rails that accept further stuff like Grenade Launchers, Combi-lasguns, and scopes..

The lattermost of which has like 7 different options to help maximize YOUR DUDES.
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>>50135109
Fair enough. I got wrecked by armor last night, and I'm looking to make one last purchase before the night's over. Ethereal seems more than a little weak compared to a Battlesuit Commander; I'm basically in a tossup between Coldstar+Hammerhead or Ra'lai right now.
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>>50135235

Sisters players are rare AF but a standard list is something like:

Saint Celestine
7 × Seraphim, 2 with hand flamers
4 × 5 Sister squad with heavy flamer
4 × Immolator dedicated transport
3 × Exorcist

Then you can fill it out with either 2 more sister squads in immolators, a knight, some of the forgeworld flyer they can take... So yeah 4-6 Immolators. Fun fact I recently priced up a sisters army and it would cost more to buy the 7 minimum Rhinos than it would to buy all the sisters, characters, upgrade parts for immolator and exorcist. it's the main thing putting me off ever buying an imperial army
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>>50135274
I know what you're talking about, but what does CAD actually mean?

3 Fast Attack, 3 Heavy Support.

That's three units of Dominions and three Exorcists. Right? Probably another Immolator or two for Celestians or some shit.
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>>50135301
Combined Arms Detatchment.
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>>50135301
CAD stands for "Combined Arms Detachment", and it's essentially the traditional Force Org Chart of
1 HQ, 2 HQ's Optional
2 Troops, 4 Troops Optiona
3 Elite Optional
3 Heavy Support Optional
3 Fast Attack Optional
1 LOW Optional
1 Fortification Optional.

You can have AS MANY detachments as your heart can handle. But CAD is widely considered to be the least broken, because it's what everyone played as before 7th edition.
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>>50135301
Combined Arms detachment
thats your standard 'formation'.
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>>50135288
That's awesome as fuck. I love how Sisters play.

Roll up, hop out, burn everything alive.

Also, Immolators and Exorcists are badass as fuck.
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>>50134086
AV 12+ and you are screwed, you need some autocannons or something.
And honestly the psykers will not have a purpose in this list besides wasting points.
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>>50135318
>>50135320
>>50135322
Thanks.
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>>50135283
I'd advice against going to buy stuff just to counter a thing you were hammered by.
Anyhow, if possible, i'd recommend hammerhead+Ralai if you really do need to blow up some machinery.
As fun as the flying coldstar is, he never feels worth it.
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>>50135169
$28 usd per 5 model set + $6.5 for postage to uk
havent assembled them yet as im gonna recast them

>>50135242
possible i guess, maybe try emailing him from a different email and make no mention of where youre from
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>>50135301
>>50135301

Combined Arms Detachment. Basically you have to take a HQ and 2 Troops, this allows you to take 4 further troops, 3 fast attack and 3 heavy support. So if you want to take more heavy support you can take another CAD and end up with 6 heavy slots and 6 fast attack (can't remember if elites is 3 per cad aswell). Allied Detachment is similar but you only need a HQ and 1 troop to gain 1 more heavy and fast slot
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>>50135186
They're not BAD bad but people mostly avoid them because they're usually 'bad for their points' bad.

Most codexs price them around 20-25 points to put a single shot on to a unit/vehicle and you're going to need more than one of them for sure.
Meanwhile a melta gun only costs 10 points to put on a squad you're going to be rushing up the table anyway.
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>>50134398
Trash army?
Easily midtier+ with a severely outdated book.
Actually not really hard to win with at all.
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>>50135352
Well, a Hammerhead was already next on my purchase list, but for the purposes of bringing me up to 750 (I have Fire Warriors and Crisis I didn't use for 500) rather than for changing up 500. And I knew going in that I was lacking for anti-armor; I was mostly trusting that my Crisis plasma rifles would get through stuff. Going forward, fusion suit is definitely a yes.

R'alai, I may save till I hit 1000+ to try and pick up. He'll be a points bracket bump on his own
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>>50135369
Pretty sure he was trolling.
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>>50135388
Sounds like a plan.
Good luck on the battlefield Shas'La
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>>50135210
>nuns with berets
Ew.

But I kinda wish my scions could buy power armour, it would look good on them.
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>>50135337
>>50134086
I missed the platoon in there. Still seems like the psykers are really eating up points they won't make back there though.
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>>50134916

I know what you're talking about (the triangular edge highlighting on Kabalite Warrior legs, right?) and it's basically
>base colour
>white or white green mix with smaller white line in middle
>wash with desired sheen colour

ask the wip thread but that's what I remember off the top of my head. Or reverse image search pic related, I believe it came from a blog that covered a better method.
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>>50135388
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Sup /tg/. I have started outfitting my Sternguard dudes with various Xeno weapons, most notably power swords from eldar. See, the way I reason this, is that my chapter requires anyone wanting to be a sternguard vet to go serve 10 years in the deathwatch.

On the one hand, anyone's allowed to try for the challenge, even the lowliest of scouts, all the way up to captains. All my sternguard sergeants are considered first and in-line for Chapter Master status, so they're pretty badass. A lot of them would also have souvenirs from their 10 years in Deathwatch, such as various non-chaos tainted weapons "acquired" from things like eldar and necrons.

It probably also helps out the chapter to not have to worry quite as much about obtaining artificer made power swords, if all their sternguard vets are coming home with stolen eldar power swords.
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>>50135398
>Positive talk between fellow Tau players without the interjection of toxic anti-taufags.
I never thought I'd see the day, my Shas'O's.
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>>50135353
Where you from? Wich Grishnak Email did you used? [email protected]?
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>>50135145
Armies that need a reasonably pointed and durable assault vehicle before Sisters of Battle
>Chaos Space Marines
>Blood Angels
>Space Wolves
>Grey Knights
>Black Templars
>Orks

Sisters need a plastic Power Armor kit, a plastic Jump Infantry kit, a Rhino-upgrade kit, and a plastic HQ option. Give them an ally-tier codex and call it a day. Cut Penitent Engines, as they will never, ever be a viable option. Cut Repentia as they're literally just naked women with chainsaws, add an Eviscerator armed Jump Infantry option to replace them. If you want to get really spicy, give them a multi-part plastic Living Saint kit. If GW wasn't retarded, they would have made the basic Genestealer Cult novice kit into a basic "humans in rags" kit with a separate GSC upgrade sprue, that way the same core sprue could be used for Frateris Militia, Chaos Cultists, and Conscripts with the addition of a single upgrade sprue with faction specific options, some variant heads/arms/torsos, and the like.
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>>50135326

That's the most consistent way yeah, you could also take the Retributors (heavy) with heavy bolters, say a little prayer (leadership check) and they get rending (6's hit with AP2)
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>>50134916
I followed this guide to the T and got pic related as my result. Granted, I'm terrible at highlighting, but my new Windsor Newton brush is working fucking wonders as I paint my Cronos at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59NiCgSov8I
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>>50135431
from scotland, yeah i used that email
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>>50135434

>durable

Covens :^)

>>50135463

Those look great, anon! Pretty much exactly what I'm going for, except with that dark teal (I forget the paint name) instead of that green (I also forget the paint name kek).

(not the anon you replied to btw)
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>>50135434
even regular marines could do with getting it before them

would go some ways towards making things like honor guard more than a joke/flavor option
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>>50135434
>a Rhino-upgrade kit

Forge World.

>Cut Penitent Engines
>Cut Repentia

You disgust me.
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>>50135467
thx anon
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>>50135434

Sureee give everyone assault vehicles and take away the one niche dark eldar players have left.
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>>50134321
>>50134395
speaking of skitarii, which guys should i take for kill team fun, ruststalkers murderbots or bowlhead infiltrators ?
personnally i prefer the murderbots, but i would like to have fun playing with them too ...
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>>50135454
Nice. Yeah, I'm definitely buying some Retributors.
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>>50135434
>durable assault vehicle
No, they need a fast, disposable open topped transport.
Like a trukk!

Trukks are amazing transports hindered by the fact their cargo is total shit.
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>>50135495
Xeno scum.
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>>50135337
This is just the basic list, I need another 300-450 points to add. I have an AC HWT and a LC HWT along with the meltavets, but I know I still need some more AT.

Trying to decide between Vendettas, Russes, or Basilisks or something. Maybe scout sentinels with multi-lasers or Hellhounds/Devil Dogs because that sounds fun too. I have assassins and GK/SoB/Harlequin (?) lying around so I could potentially get some allies too.

The psykers are there to support the vets and/or the backlines, and potentially do some heavy lifting if I get lucky on the power rolls.

I originally got them for prescience and maybe invisibility or something on the Heavy Weapons Squads, but aside from that they look like they can be pretty fun.
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>>50135506
Orks are a meme army.
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>>50135497
infiltrators are straight up better

also the retrobot look is cool as fuck
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>>50134028
What's the worst a bunch of SoBs could do to an abandoned fortress monastery?
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>>50135511

Someone has to be else it'd just be an imperial circle jerk til one of the chapter masters doesn't feel appreciated enough and decides to do a heresy
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>>50135517
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>>50135527
They're walk in, chill out, and pray to the Emperor. Same shit they do every single day of the year. If they're not fighting, they're praying.

Or sexually hazing new recruits in the showers.
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>>50135497
Neither, get FW new elite shooting unit for skitarii
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>>50135546
They'll*
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>>50135497
Infiltrators and Rustalkers sound great,

Then your opponent remembers he has Krak grenades
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Should I be deep striking my Dark Artisan formation? I'm not used to using talos and cronos but they are slow af
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>>50135546
They need no training?
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>>50135527
Probably discovering that it's not actually abandoned, and that it's just one of the RG successor's monasteries
> The sisters descend to the bedchambers for the night, tired from a long day of purging and praying
> Woken up in the middle of the night by BEAKIES

Or
> Sisters go to the firing range to practice their rending bolters.
> "Wait, what's that noise coming from the firing ranges?"
> Sisters walk into one of the monastery's MANY firing ranges to find what essentially runs down as a /k/ meeting of nugget obsessed operators
> Captain in the corner holding an Archaotech Rifle while arguing with two sternguard vets over the benefits of filling their bolters with something called "Cosmoline"
> Several scouts standing on a literal mountain of empty bolter magazines. Said mountain is growing as they constantly magdump the targets.
> Dozens of beakies oiling up their bolters.
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>>50135605

Probably. They can't charge on that turn though so pick a soft target or hide them behind something (WWP = you can put them exactly where you want them, so make use of it)
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>>50135615
Yeah, I guess they train as well.

They pray while training, though.
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>>50135506
Disposable doesn't make sense for astartes, and open-topped (i.e.easy to destroy) is shit for expensive melee units. Any melee-based MEQ army needs a moderately armored assault transport to ensure that their expensive units don't just get stranded in their deployment zone turn one.

Trukks should work for Orks because the units inside are cheap. You can take a bunch of them and you can be or at least should be guaranteed to have some of them make it through to their target.

>>50135495
Fuck off, shitposting retard. Dark Eldar are fundamentally broken at the moment, but widespread access to assault transports has never been considered a significant part of their shtick.

>>50135488
I'm talking a single plastic upgrade kit to make a Rhino into any of the Sisters Rhino variants. Probably have to alter the Exorcist to do it, but that's okay since the organ launchers are fairly goofy looking anyways.

Slow, open-topped, dedicated melee walkers will never be good in 40k as we know it. Similarly, Repentia as a slow, lightly armored, dedicated melee unit that always strikes last will never be good. Just fold them into a dual-kit with Seraphim, and you both make them good and get rid of one of the least-PC units left in the game.

>>50135477
In reality, I think it would be better to just unfuck Rhinos rather than build a new dedicated assault vehicle for half the armies in the game. Up-armor them and bump the price up a bit, and then unfuck the core rules for assaulting out of vehicles. At the absolute least, assaulting out of stationary vehicles needs to come back. That change gutted every mechanized CC MEQ army.
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>>50135617
I love being a newfag to a hobby.

Your entire post is Chinese to me.
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>>50135698
>since the organ launchers are fairly goofy looking anyways.

I'm angry.

>Just fold them into a dual-kit with Seraphim, and you both make them good and get rid of one of the least-PC units left in the game.

I want to kill you.
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>>50135495
he was about durable assault vehicles. DE dont into durable.
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>>50135698
>At the absolute least, assaulting out of stationary vehicles needs to come back.
for sure

letting people make disordered charges out of moving vehicles would also be a positive change
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>>50135700
It really doesn't help that I'm the living embodiment of overlap between this board and /k/. My whole chapter is "OPERATORS OPERATING OPERATIONALLY IN OPERATIONAL ZONES". Everyone is a sneaky motherfucker that covers their entire body in OPERATOR stuff like Combi-lasguns, scopes, ammo pouches, knives, and even spare scopes.

Yes, most of my sternguard vets have SPARE SCOPES.
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>>50135753
Love it
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>>50135617
The fluff for muh BA successor chapter is after their sector got swallowed by a warp rift(M34), went on a Penitence Crusade for allowing it to happen, then went on the Odyssey in space where they forget the location of the sector until the modern 40k. In m37-38 the warp rift disappeared and a crusade was launched, some SoBs got credit, and took residence in the fortress monastery. I need to know would the Sisters try remodeling the place(burn the Librarium). Your idea does get a good kek out of me.
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>>50135753
Jesus Christ.

Not bad, though. You're pretty good at converting shit. Where'd you get all that spare shit from?
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>>50135518
no haywire for tank-hunting though
>>50135548
no
>>50135562
grenade spam is death
but ruststalkers also get grenades
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>>50135753
>random ammo pouches all over his armour, blocking his ability to see over his shoulders
>GENE SEED strapped to his chest despite not being an apothecary
too much
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>>50135797
It's a combination of several practices
> Buying bits from Anvil Industries... Mostly scopes and laser designators
> Raiding the bits bin at FLGS(which I pay for)
> Raiding the bits bin at Geedubs(which I don't)
> Maintaining my own bits bin, that I religiously fill up by harvesting ALL leftover bits from everything

It just takes a few years of these kinds of habits to get a good collection of bits. After awhile of building stuff you just kind of get a sense for what and where everything is.
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What house rules does your group play with?

-Grenade FAQ is ignored (in assault, all models can throw one grenade)
-Haywire is 4/5 glance, 6 pen
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Reposting this since I posted in the old thread:


My friend bought me some Tyranid Warriors, and I was thinking of equipping them as follows:

>Warrior 1: Lashwhip/bonesword + Rending Claws

>Warrior 2: Lashwhip/bonesword + Rending Claws

>Warrior 3: Rending Claws + Barbed strangler.

Am I doing it wrong? Is there any point to them having Rending Claws as well as the Lashwhip and Bonesword? You can only get the +1 to attacks for extra weapon once right? And if it does, does that mean all my close combat attacks get rending?

Another example is, my flyrant has lash whip and bonesword, but is moddeled with the prehensile pincer tail, does that get it an extra attack on top of the +1 already gained from lashwhip/bonesword (which I am assuming counts as two weapons)

How do I into 4 arms?

Pic related is the last game I played with them (some very old nids from my first Battle for Macragge set pictured), but my Hive Tyrant is in the background here. Apologies for the blurriness. I was excited and rushed my photos.
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>>50135875
>House rules.
>Ever.
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>>50135832
Not the creator.

But I believe he eats them in times of combat to absorb it's power
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>>50135895
>blindly following the rules of a company whose sole (read: only) goal is to get your money
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>>50135875
> Respect "Flooring" when it comes to blasts. Barrage automatically hits the top floor, blasts needs to declare a floor.
> Ignore the restrictions on relics.

Literally everyone has been ignoring the latter for years, it has ALWAYS been a thing. Who honestly gives a shit if you spend 200 points on nothing but bling for some crazy motherfucker.

>>50135896
I am the creator. He carries it because it's spares for his apothecary. He's also the backline dude for his squad, so he's got everyone else to stand in front of him to help protect the gene-seed.

The ammo isn't just for him, it's for his squad. Some ammo packs are beyond his own reach , but are instead easily accessible to his squad members in mid-firefight.
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>>50135893
Each pair of arms is one weapon. In the LashBone setup, they count as 1 weapon, adding a set of Rending Claws also counts as 1 weapon, giving +1 attack. You only get rending if you choose to use the Rending Claws as your melee weapon.
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>>50135917
> Ignore the restrictions on relics.
that's actually sounds pretty funny
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>>50135875
Swarmlord has Eternal Warrior
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>>50135907
>Not wanting to sexually service every GW employee ever.
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>>50135875
on narrow tables (less than 4' across) units get a chance to regroup on hitting the board edge
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>>50134273
>>50134230
>implying it isn't a falseflagger wanting SoB to be hated just before the update

You fools don't even know how skilled some shitposters are, mang.
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>>50135920
Ok let me get this straight:
>Lashwhip/bonesword is one weapon. So essentially, my hive tyrant would not get the +1 attack bonus unless I take the pincer tail.
>Similarly, my Warriors Won't get the +1 attack bonus unless I take either rending claws or some other weapon.
>I can't use both the bonus of the lashwhip bonesword (6 = instant kill) and the rending of the claws at the same time.

So really, lashwhip/bonesword plus rending claws is retarded given I'd have to choose one in close combat, negating one of the two choice point's cost.

From what I've gathered there, I'd be way better off taking a melee and a ranged weapon, thereby gaining the +1 attack and not having to choose which to use in melee.
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>>50135976
What's so bad about implying that Sisters fuck each other in the showers?

Did I trigger you?
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>>50135976
>implying the years of whining hasn't already done that
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Anyone else incredibly disappointed by the Magnus model?

I'm a tzeentch/t-son fag and I was looking forward to FW's release of Magnus to use as a generic lord/sorceror counts-as

Instead he's a fuckhuge Monstrous Creature
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>>50135875
heavy bolters salvo1/3
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>>50135183
Tabletop Simulator on steam my companion of African descent. They have armies, maps, everything
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>>50135998
>implying that whining wasn't flaseflaggers either
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>>50136007
You do realise that is DAEMON PRIMARCH Magnus, not Magnus, right?
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>>50135992
You dont get extra attacks for the tail weapons. My general set up for warriors is Rending Claws and a Devourer or Deathspitter. Your right on the money for the other two points. You wont ever be able to claim +1 attack unless you have 2 melee weapons.
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What weapon is best wep for armoured sentinels?
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>>50136007
Forge World is releasing Magnus. As the Primarch. The model you're seeing is Daemon Primarch form for the 2nd part of Warzone: Fenris.

Furthermore, Primarch's are 13ft+ tall, how the hell did you plan to run even non-Daemon Prince Magnus as a Sorc/Lord?
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>>50136044
multilaser...erryday
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>>50136044
multilasers or autocannons only
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>>50136063
>>50136074
>implying Mantis Warriors can use Sentinels
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>>50136043
Oh gay, so my "melee" flyrant will forever not gain the +1 attack?

I guess I will go with rending claws and devourer or something. Might do the lashwhip and bonesword for rule of cool. Do you reckon rending is much better than the instant kill on 6?
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>>50136056
Not only are most primarchs 13+ ft tall, MAGNUS was also the BIGGEST of all the primarchs, by an alarmingly huge margin.

In one of the novels, he was also able to literally arm-wrestle one of the smaller eldar titans.

>>50136044
Just go Scout sentinels for the delicious Scout, which also grants OUTFLANK. Outflanking Sentinels with your choice of Autocannons or Lascannons, so they can molest vehicles on their side armour, without also being shot at on the approach.
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>>50136035
>no true SoB player
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>>50136091
On a Flyrant the best set up is 2 Twin Linked Devourers, but if I had to make it a Melee Flyrant, LashBones all day, youre already AP2. Normal warriors I would say Rending Claws are better, simply because theyre 4x cheaper than Lashbones.
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>>50136092
Yeah. I don't get that anon's post at all. Magnus is apparently the next Primarch FW is doing. Then Dorn. Then Alpharius.

>>50136128
There is a reason they've not been updated. SoB players don't exist. It's just memers. Even I don't consider myself a SoB player despite owning an army of proxies for them.
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>>50136154
Here's a blurry picture of my flyrant in melee. I suppose I could rip his arms off and put some devourers in, but fug it, what's done is done.

I suppose if I take rending claws instead of the boneswords on my warriors I can get a few extra gaunts into my army...
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>>50136216
Forgot pic.
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>>50136232
>IG guns aren't barrel drilled

>vomit.jpg
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>>50136216
>>50136232
Id say keep him as is. That first Flyrant is always special, plus melee Flyrants wont have people screaming that your a WAACFag. Just build the next Flyrant you get with the 2 Twin Linked Devourers.
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>>50136267
> Drilling barrels on FLASHLIGHTS
Oh shit nigger, what the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>50136267
>>50136275
>tfw my eyes are so bad I can't even see what you niggers are talking about.
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>>50135875
>7th ed BRB is ignored
FTFY.

Why does no one read the rulebook?

You can't start in allied transports either!
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>>50136267
>drilling holes in the lenses of your laser guns
this is why your guardsmen keep missing, dude
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I own 3 BC/can Russ now. Is it a waste NOT to make one of them an Eradicator or the autocannon one?
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How do I remove kebab as Space Marines?
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>>50136378
DUDE
RARE EARTH MAGNETS
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>>50136426
Is there a way to make that work with a Russ? My experience is you have to glue the turret together around the barrels
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>>50136378

>Eradicator
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Trivial
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297605-tutorial-magnetisation/#entry3825791
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>>50136267
>barrel drilling lasguns

M80 have you ever seen a laser?
>>
Can I have some feedback on this list? Trying to go for an all-out turn 2 assault force that will just plough head on into most enemies. How well do you think it would perform - are the bikes a good idea?

+++ Blood angels (1850pts) +++
++ Combined Arms Detachment (Blood Angels: Codex (2014) v3) (830pts) ++

+ HQ (220pts) +
···· Librarian (110pts) [Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Psyker (ML2), Space Marine bike]
···· Librarian (110pts) [Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Psyker (ML2), Space Marine bike]

+ Troops (110pts) +
····Scout Squad (55pts) [4x Scout (Combat Blade)]
······Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
····Scout Squad (55pts) [4x Scout (Combat Blade)]
······Scout Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]

+ Fast Attack (295pts) +
····Bike Squad (98pts) [2x Space Marine Biker]
······Biker Sergeant [Biker Veteran Sergeant, Power fist]
····Bike Squad (98pts) [2x Space Marine Biker]
······Biker Sergeant [Biker Veteran Sergeant, Power fist]
····Scout Bike Squadron (99pts) [Astartes Grenade Launcher, 2x Scout Biker]
······Scout Biker Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Scout Biker Vt. Sergeant, Thunder hammer]

+ Heavy Support (205pts) +
····Stormraven Gunship (205pts) [Extra Armour, Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin-linked Multi-melta]


+ Formation (1020pts) +
····Strike Force Mortalis (1020pts)
······Death Company Dreadnought [Blood Talons, Magna-grapple, Meltagun and heavy flamer]
······Death Company Dreadnought [Blood Talons, Magna-grapple, Meltagun and storm bolter]
······Death Company Squad [5x Bolt Pistol, 4x Chainsword, 5x Death Company Marine, Jump Pack, Power Fist]
······Death Company Squad [5x Bolt Pistol, 4x Chainsword, 5x Death Company Marine, Jump Pack, Thunder Hammer]
······Death Company Squad [5x Bolt Pistol, 4x Chainsword, 5x Death Company Marine, Jump Pack, Power Fist]
······ Chaplain [Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Jump pack, Melta bombs, Warlord]
······Stormraven Gunship [Extra Armour, Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin-linked Multi-melta]
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>>50136232
Looks like it burst out of the container.
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>>50136478
I take it that's a no.
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Would a genestealer's kiss work on a Space Marine?
What would a Tau genestealer cult be like?
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What would a 5 man assault squad without jump packs be good for? I've got a box sitting here sans jump packs and I don't want it to go to waste
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>>50136771

They're pretty OK in a pod with 2 flamers. Especially in a Battle Company, cheapy ObSec
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>>50136737
Genestealer infection does 'work' on Space Marines in terms of opening their minds up to be more vulnerable to psychic manipulation, but I don't recall any sources on if it actually effects the geneseed or not.

As for Tau Genestealer Cults? It's a tough one considering the Tau don't really have the psychic sensitivity to make it easy for their broodmind shenanigans, but they do exist as of the new Codex (no specifics are given on the hybrids or the way they work in this instance, though.)
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>>50136771
with spare bolters you can make tacticals
>>
Guys, how often do you think people will be fags about going 1 point over 1000 points?

I've got a close to perfect list for myself worked out but it's 1 point over. Will people sperg out over that in pugs? I wouldn't tournament with this army.
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>>50136804
what about having cowboys running around with dual pistols?
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>>50136821
be open about it. Some care some dont
it will be far worse if ppl find out later
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>>50136821
Just ask your opponent, Ive had lists with 5pts over and told them that if they wanted to add anything to their list or if they had any problem with that and so far havent got any problems.

Fucking talk to your opponent like a normal human being.
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>>50134398
My wife wants to play space nuns. Make me an offer.
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>>50136834
>>50136843
I think I'd rather be 3 points under and avoid potential buttmad.
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>>50136821
1 POINT OVER 1000 IS UNACCEPTABLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE
1 POINT UNDER 1000 IS UNACCEPTABLLLLLLLLLLLLLE
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>>50136737
Check the GSC codex. The Tau thought it'd be cool to see what happens if they tried to cooexist.

The planet was lost as everyone became cultists and the Tyranids arrived, with no one even putting up a defence.
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>>50136829

I mean who gives a shit what you give the ones without the 2 flamers.
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>>50136871
I meant plasma pistols instead of flamers
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>>50136883

Eh, I think its too expensive at that point.
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>>50136821
>going 1 point over
Would only consider playing against if you were literally the only available person in the store.
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>>50134505
>I'm not jewish because I like getting ripped off
You're literally paying jews 50 bucks for 5 plastic misifigs.
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>>50136860
One point over the line sweet Jesus
One point over the line
Sittin' home at the paint station
One point over the line

Awaitin' for the mini to dry, sweet Mary
Hopin' that the paint comes fine
Sittin' home at the paint station
One point over the line
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>>50136821
I generally don't mind people being over/under up to 10 points, though if there's an upgrade they can drop they should. And being under is preferable to being over.
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>>50136869
That's not what happened. The Tau quarantined it for 10 years and then some potentially corrupted Ethereal declared it as "clean".
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>>50137007
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>>50136539
My opponent usually runs a similar list to that, but with tacticals in rhinos instead of bikes. It works pretty well.

Just be sure to take out huge things fast and don't let your DC get trashed before taking out any vehicles or MCs.
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Anything new from the forge world open day?
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>>50137101

Probably more Imperial or 30k stuff as always.
>>
What's coming out next weekend?
How long must be wait for something interesting?
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>>50137141
And if it wasn't it would be Tau stuff :^)
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>>50136821
It really depends. Some codexes have really weird point values and it is very hard to get it exactly. Some might also try to powergame with this.

If you've taken an upgrade that is less points than the difference, that is really uncool. If you try to use the leeway to allow you to fit a fourth riptide in your 1000 point list or some stupid ass bullshit, then go play by yourself at home.

But if you are just having trouble trying to balance between 1001 points and 996 points, let's play and speak nothing of it.

I try to keep my lists strictly under the point value because I know some people sperg over it. I am being to cautious I think, especially since I play an NPC faction.
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>>50137185
Other codex are just jealous I get bolt guns for 1pt
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>>50137208
>meanwhile
>autoguns for 1pt each, or close combat weapons for 2pts each
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>>50137239
> Meanwhile with Imperial Cults and Militia
> "Free choice of"
- Autoguns
- Autocarbines
- Lasguns
- Lascarbines
- Stub-rifles
- Flintlock Pistols
- Flintlock Rifles
- Laspistols
- Autopistols
- Stub pistols

With optional squad-wide upgrades for:
- S4 CCW
- Laslocks
- Bolters
- Auxilia Rifles
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>>50134546
Death company. All the death company. And fragiosos in drop pods with heavy flamers.
>>
I'm building my Crassus Armored Transport and I'm decorating the interior to make it seem more like a vehicle that's used over an extended campaign on an ice world. I've got space lasguns in it, ammo crates, I'm gonna model benches, medkit, spare kasrking backpacks, jerry cans, water canteens and I'm gonna model a water cooler on top of that. What else should I add?
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>>50134398

If you're in europe, send me your price please
ragedimdim (at) hotmail.fr
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>>50137380
shag carpet and wooden wall paneling
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>>50137481
don't tempt me.
I'm already doing heat lamps for maximum cozy after brutal freezing combat
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>>50137277
>homebrew forgeworld shite
>>
>>50137533
Games Workshop literally put D weapons on infantry
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Post game pics!!!
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>>50137533
Forgeworld is GW.
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>>50137577
everything is infantry though

everything good anyway
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>>50137622
The biggest beef I have with forgeworld is the way they structure and release their rulebooks

>volumes of assorted rules
>no clear book per faction
>print only
>international shipping only
>100 GBP wtf?
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>>50137615
I played a fun game against a fluffy raven guard list

It wasnt fun at all.
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>>50137644
>Buying forgeworld books
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>>50137644
>within six months it's obsolete
>second edition copies are literally word for word reprints with some updated rules
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>>50137654
>four stormtalons
>stormeagle
If I had any flyers I would totally play a flyer vs flyer game
without that stupid death in the skies bullshit
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>>50137685
because they mostly get it right the first time and only tweak it. Unlike GW who totally overhauls factions into being either OP or worthless every few years
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>>50137654
>fluffy Raven Guard
>Land Raider, a massive unstealthy tank
>Fluffy
Fucking WAAC faggots man.
>>
>>50137141

It's a great time to be Imperium.
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>>50137615
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>>50137717
I want to disagree but I can't think of any example besides DOOM of Mymeara but that's eldar so it hardly counts.
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>>50136510
>>50136275
>>50136355
Reee the tip of the lasgun on all pictures is indented, the glass is behind that. It isn't a smooth front like those models are!

See this. But that guys models are flat smooth. Needs a small amount drilled in.
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>>50137784
>winged jump pack
those are just the tightest shit, aren't they?
>>
>>50137845
>GloriousBloodAngelFlexingWhileJetPackEnginesFlare.jpg
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>>50137845
Most definitely. Shame the rest of the Sanguinary Guard look like ass.
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>>50137868
the wrist bolters, axes, and wing-pauldrons look great.
It's a good kit bashing unit
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>>50137868
>Shame the rest of the Sanguinary Guard look like ass.
>>
Harlequins are overly fiddly little fucks to assemble.
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>>50137868
Your face looks like ass! Sanguinary Guard are GOAT. Shame they're one of the worst units in the game. Yay, paying 30PPM for a naked T4 2+ with AP3 (or AP2 + Unwieldy) with a 1 better AP Bolter stuck with Rapid Fire mode.

If their weapons weren't 2H and the Axe wasn't Unwieldy (come the fuck on, it's MASTER CRAFTED yet they can't make it balanced?) they'd be great. +1S for Sword and AP2 for Axe (without Unwieldy) will make 30PPM OK. Means when facing GEQ's you use the Sword, while against MEQ's you use the axe.

The only alternative is dropping them to 20ppm.
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>>50137883
Oops, forgot the wrist-bolters, theyre pretty cool too.

>>50137884
And if I dont? ;)
>>
>>50137926
this is the hell you chose
>>
If I wanted to use an airbrush to get the grey<->tan effect like on this Russ, or to paint the gradients on a harlequin vehicle, would I really need a super expensive ($200+) air compressor or would a cheaper one suffice?
>>
>>50137940

I know but they look so cool. They aren't hard to assemble necessarily they're just cut into a ton of pieces. The crew for a skyweaver is 8 pieces and there are 2 crew per bike FFS.
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>>50137884
Blood angels are the prettiest and most meleeest faction, I love them.

They shit all over other marines on the charge, shame were stuck in a shooting edition.
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>>50137615
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>>50137932
You'll regret it.

>>50137976
I prefer standing and shooting, building fortifications and shit. But I don't like Dorn and I don't like the traits of IF. I like everything about Blood Angels and the lack of defensive tactics preference is mitigated with Librarian Dreads which I love. Especially since FAQ made them 6A on the charge. Potential 7-9 attacks if they use Quickening.

But as for them shitting on other Marines, I still rate Space Wolves better. As Counter-Attack is too useful. +1A in all situations essentially. +1S isn't that great unless you're facing GEQ and have Lightning Claws on you. Thunder Hammers/Power Fists will kill a Marine even without Furious Charge. To me, Furious Charge is useless unless you're going against GEQ and go with +1S weapons so you can ID them.

I also wish you could put two Frag Cannons on one Dread. I also wish we had a unique flyer. Some AA. I hope in the future we'll get a unit that'll take the place of Centurions.

My personal hope? Death Company Terminators. The fact only DCC can take the Lost Relics is annoying, so hopefully a Death Company Captain as well (though GW have ruined this by naming every Captain and basically forcing any Death Company captain to be a past event and I'm autistic and like to pretend I'm fighting right now, not in the passed).
>>
>>50134516
>>50134637

Orks are the niggers of 40k, expected to keep up from a hamstrung position with all the other factions who pay less for superior gear and fewer choices.

I had a SH tank offfed in a single round of attacks from a SW dread because RA was 10 and it got off some not-even-exceptional positioning shenanigans to make a charge.

Fuck GW for making Orks punching bags for any unit that costs 1/3 the points for twice the effectiveness.
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>>50137976
A fellow son of Sangunius?! Brother, you must take this and do what our brothers did in the legion days of old. Find anything that has a heavy flamer and replace the flamer with an assault cannon.
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>>50137989
I recognized those IG.
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>>50138101
>thecommissarslookingmyway.jpg
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>>50138117
Kek. Anon, your IG has brought me a joy I did not know I needed. Almost makes me want to start up an IG army. But Vostroyans aren't in plastic right? Well, I could do muh own regiment I'm making called the Varangian World Burners. Their look would like the guy on the right but with Imperial symbols.
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>>50138083
It's annoying that the x3 Baal Pred squadron bonus is re-rolls to wound of 1's. or is it hits? I forget.

There isn't enough potential assault cannon love for 40k BA's.
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>>50138101
>>50138117
Not sure how I feel about my guardsmen become a meme
>>
>>50135463

hey man thanks a lot for replying i really appreciate it!

This is exactly what im looking for
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>>50138075
>Death Company Terminators.
That could be just enough to get me into Blood Angels
>>
How large is the new Magnus model?
>>
>>50138212
Different assault cannon patterns, Anon. A gun cult made those guns before Emps and Mars became buds.
>>50138234
His face is now apporiate. Death through Genestealer or Commissariat, or rape by the stealer and then the commissar kills him.
>>
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What's the easiest way to fit an Avatar into a list to ally him but stay bound with DE and Harlequin? Autarch + 2 Min Rangers?
>>
>>50138259
The big one's the on sale model, the small one's a test model, and both next to Ahriman.
>>
>>50138286
He also comes with 2 different heads and a sword or staff option.
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>>50138264
Here's his fate.
He actually killed the genestealer and got mauled by the power hammer nid
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>>50138299
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>>50138302
He's with the Emperor now. I wonder if he had any regrets.
>>
>>50138320
Being reassigned from medic to shock troops
>>
>>50138264
Oh I know it's a different one in 30k. It's just a shame it doesn't carry over.
>>
>>50135434
> CSM
> BA
> SW
> GK
> BT
Land Raider?
>>
>>50138365
I don't think he could control that.
>>50138372
It's probably behind glass with "in case of emergency" in the BAs' crib.
>>
>>50138379
Land raiders are too expensive to be a workhorse transport.
>>
>>50138235
No problem, it always feels good to help an aspiring sadist/masochist.
>>
>>50138286
Thanks.
>>
>>50137533
>FW is "muh homebrew" meme
>Combination Pizza Hut/Taco Bell is home cooking

Lol nigga wut
>>
>>50138660
>>50138660
>>50138660
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>>50138075
Its not just strength, Baal strike force means my marines are strength AND initiative 5 on the charge turning the power sword Sargent in to a mean, marine murdering machine.

Not to mention fast vehicles. Razor backs with lascannon and tl plasma moving 12" and still having pinpoint accuracy, predators can actually move up to 6" and fire all weapons or do a mad power slide 12" (multi tread drifting!) and give someone's side/rear armour two lascannons for underestimating it's speed.
>>
>>50135562
Only one per phase.
>>
>>50138286
This makes me sad. Its too big. Even if I took all the time to paint it, I'd rarely ever have a chance to use it in a game.
>>
>>50134028
Which flavor of Inquisitor would be most fitting for the use of Webber pistols?
>>
>>50139439
Ordo xenos duh
>>
>>50139483
Can a summoned daemon go back into the warp any time they want? It sounds like all of the ordos might have reason to want to capture something alive unless it is possible to capture a daemon through physical means.
>>
>>50139572
I dont think daemons care about corporial entrapments
>>
>>50136336
Apparently you can (dunno how). The GW non-official (but official?) FAQ says you cannot
>>
>>50136821
if you play with a POINT LIMIT. Then LIMIT yourself to the points.
>>
> Be CSM player
> Don't wanna lose anymore
> What to I change to?

I heard that the renegade army is pretty good
>>
>>50140461
Daemon allies?
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