Pathfinder General /pfg/ >THIS IS IMPORTANT! If you want

>>50111159
forgot to link to the old thread:
>>50105499

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>>50111159
Yes she is.

How was your game this week, /pfg/?

My game was cancelled this week due to GM and his wife leaving to see Dr. Strange. Can't even be mad about that! In the mean time, I still get to experiment with spell and plot ideas while I got the downtime between session. And pic related, it's been a bit since I scribbled up anything Lilly/Ori-related. Any ideas in mind? It may be a little bit to get anything out there until I at least get some line work on commissions finished, however.

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>>50111159

For you!

I think i have a problem guys, i like my character too much. knowing my lukc i'll never play her.

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Post pics that can be passed off as something vaguely or closely Pathfinder.

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Okay /pfg/, question time

This is important.

Is your character cute?

>>50111249
I've got one that's charming, one that's grizzled, and one that's scary/sexyifyou'reintothat. No cute.

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>>50111249
But of course!

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>>50111249
Fucking absolutely

>>50111249

You can be still be cute with a Charisma penalty right?

...r-right?

Why does pathfinder society not allow pfsrd? Is it just to Jew people into buying their shit?

>>50111249
Not even close. Living on the streets hunting monsters in the sewers and alleys as well as decades of alcoholism have taken their toll.

>>50111286
Yes.

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>>50111249
I've got a ditzy kitsune shotgunner and a murderous little girl tiefling who thinks she's cute cute but is actually is terrible.

The kitsune's cuter but the tiefling would gut me if she heard me say it.

So I am creating the wiki for my setting for players to browse.

Right now I am doing the section of Cabals, Covens, Fraternities, Covenant, Circles, and other groups of magic users. Right now the form is thus:

>Name:
>Approximate Membership:
>Demographic of Members:
>Classes of Members:
>Organization CR (knowledge required to determine):
>Current Leader:
>Notable Members:
>History:
>Legal Status:
>Sponsor Organization:
>Political Leanings:
>Location/Bases:

Am I missing anything? The city is a big one, approximately the size of London in the 1870s (3.5 million).

I have plans for 6 different organizations currently. How many should I cook up?

Covens are actually very important in settings as Hags play a major role (as do Rakshasa, the world is greatly influences by a native outside type of every extreme, hags occupy CE).

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>>50111159
So does Pathfinder have cute Ogres in it? Or is it all Hills Have Eyes stuff?

>>50111202
Is she breaking that poor dude's neck?

>>50111209
I know that feeling all too well.

>>50111159
Not only are you a faggot, you forgot the fucking playtests.

Gear of Power playtest - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zIomq0TFP7uPdlFB8VRAIWQEjAXLV5CYpP3HmjySynU/edit

Creation Sphere Handbook playtest - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kitAB8sHgmuD3fvOMuI_KyV_dxpO2wrxQmbnCoRgglA/edit#

>>50111249
She's cute AF.
Sadly I don't have the cash or skills to get proper art of her and when I tried the Drawthread I got a kind of meh delivery (but they put visible effort into it) so I won't be trying that for any requests for some time out of respect to the other anons wanting art.

Sadness fills me.

>>50111249

All my characters are cute. I think that's become my reputation among my playgroups now.

>>50111249
No. I have in fact never played a cute character. I play a lot of old men. My last being a 92 year old inquisitor VMC oracle.

>>50111377
Okay anon, I just got home from my first pathfinder session, and holy fuck I need your help.

Besides me and the DM, none of them have ever played before, and I've only played 4th edition aka best edition (sorry it's a fact, I don't make the rules)

The DM said we could only use the core rulebook because everything else is imba, so I went with the old classic and made a dwarf fighter, giant beard, two axes, bad scotch accent, the whole nine yards.

I didn't get to DO anything, because the faggot wizard spammed fucking color pattern or whatever in every fucking fight and they ended fucking instantly, and the monk (the fucking MONK??) picked all the locks so I had no doors to bust open.

We're meeting again in a week, we're level 2 now, help me become actually good.

>>50111431
>the faggot wizard spammed fucking color pattern or whatever in every fucking fight and they ended fucking instantly

Did the GM send you against only Will -1 or -2 goblins or something?

Did these mooks all happen to be in a single 15 foot cone?

>>50111439
We're first level characters in a dungeon five foot corridors and 10-15 foot rooms, what ELSE is he going to do?

>>50111431
>The DM said we could only use the core rulebook because everything else is imba

Your DM has no idea what they're talking about.
No amount of help can save you.

>>50111249
Accidental trap, easily flustered tiefling doing his best to Lawfully Good rebel against his family - I mean, his party members think he is. He disagrees. He is manly as HELL shut up.
Divine assassin cursed by another god, probably not.
And a squire who I tend to imagine is adorable but we'll see in play.

>>50111446
Have an enemy fire an arrow down the corridor.

Not have such shit dungeon design.

>>50111319
So I added these:
>Organization Alignment:
>Organization Type:

Any other thoughts?

>>50111460
Okay great but I'm not the DM, so while that's probably great advice, it doesn't help ME

Though at least it's better than >>50111450

Okay great my situation sucks, now how do I make the best of it?

>>50111431
Well you picked one of the weakest classes in the game unfortunately. For Fighters you can basically either stack AC, focus on direct melee damage with a two-handed weapon, or go for Combat Manuevers like Trip.

Also I'm not sure why the Monk is opening locks. Disable Device is cross class for him and he won't get any of the special abilities like trap finding that will make it possible for him to do more than open basic locks.

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>>50111243
Not enough furries.

>>50111469
You think I was being facetious?
It's more true than you realise.
Especially when you've come from 4e, the most balanced but least dnd-like edition of dnd that detractors say only achieved its balance by making all classes act the same.

Your DM isn't just wrong in thinking that non-core is imbalanced: the core rulebook has the BIGGEST imbalances in the game. It contains both the strongest and weakest classes in the whole game, and extra material (mostly) keeps closer to the middle.
You just experienced it yourself in the first session but I expect it's not enough to convince the GM otherwise.

As for how to salvage your fighter using core-only: you'll always be behind the wizard if they're played properly, you're shit out of luck. If you want to maximise damage just go into twohanding a weapon and power attacking all day, but good luck contributing to anything else that isn't direct damage in combat.
And again, you think I'm being mocking, but you really underestimate how badly PF core is designed compared to 4e.

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>>50111249
Only the cutest types [Spoiler] I think [/spoiler]

Living Armour that's really shy and can't speak to people, is clumsy from his own strength but very gentle with living things like his pet rabbit. He's very very protective of the things that matter to him, even if he can't express it properly.

A snake that was abandoned by his clan after he accidentally used some explosives to close to his leader's house and now has to deal with the fact he lacks any skills aside from building explosives but needs to make his way on his own in the world.

A dwarf wizard grill with horrible scarring that she's pretty self conscious about. She tries her best though and has a good head on her shoulders.

A teifling psion that never really had a childhood due to fits of illness that left him shaking and lost sometimes for days. Was enrolled in the military after he was helped when his noble family sold off just about everything to pay for some curative magic.

A shaman from the desert that is afraid of body contact. Any sort. Grew up in an area where illness was a large concern. She channels the spirits of fire and wind to aid her allies.

TFW games refuse to play regularly thou

>>50111486
Yeah, it's true that Core Pathfinder is the most unbalanced version of the game. Continuing the martial/caster imbalance of 3.5. Later books at least give enough options to let martial characters have a couple toys, even if casters still are miles ahead of them.

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>>50111249
No, but she is smug

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>>50111488
>Can't even spoiler correctly
Buy me a comfy coffin and bury me alive anons.

Feats:

>Extra Attack (Combat)

>Requirements: BAB +1

>You can make an additional attack at your highest base attack bonus whenever you make a full attack. This additional attack stacks with the bonus attacks from haste and other similar effects.

>You can use an unarmed strike or any equipped weapon to make this extra attack. Each attack you make this round receives a penalty to hit based on the type, size, and number of weapons you use to make your attacks, based on the table below:

>Single Weapon: -2
>Two Or More Weapons: +0

>Two-handed Weapon: -6
>One-Handed Weapon: -2
>Light Weapon: +0

>Special: This feat replaces Two-Weapon Fighting, Rapidshot, and any other similiar ability. Monks and any archetypes that would normally gain Flurry of Blows receive Extra Attack instead.


>Improved Extra Attack (Combat)

>Requirements: BAB +11

>You can make an additional attack at your highest base attack bonus whenever you make a full attack, with the same modifiers as Extra Attack. This stacks with the first attack from this ability and additional attacks from haste and similar effects.

>Special: This feat replaces Improved and Greater Two-Weapon Fighting, Manyshot, and any other similiar ability. Monks and any archetypes that would normally gain Flurry of Blows receive Improved Extra Attack at level 10 as a bonus feat.

Thoughts?

>>50111510
What're you, trying to turn this into 5e

>>50111508
Just use control+s anon, it adds spoiler tags for you.

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>>50111535
Thanks anon! I'll repay you with cute character art and friendship

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>>50111249
18 charisma. Unusual mannerisms that come off as 'hahaha... wat?' to other party members.

Sometimes has small tantrums she's a wilder.

Doesn't have very good tastebuds so likes strongly flavored foods - particularly cheese. Also hates to chew food.

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>>50111431
>The DM said we could only use the core rulebook because everything else is imba

Welp thats a lemon that really needs to fucking shred itself.

>so I went with the old classic and made a dwarf fighter.

I can understand how you'd think this would be an alright idea - because you played 4th edition. But no, The core rulebook is one of the worst things in the fucking game for balance. Fighters are an awful, awful class.

>I didn't get to DO anything, because the faggot wizard spammed fucking color pattern

Welcome to caster edition.

>the monk (the fucking MONK??) picked all the locks so I had no doors to bust open.

Bullshit.

>>50111446
>>50111460
>Not have such shit dungeon design.

Seconding this. 5 foot corridors and small rooms are insipidly bad dungeon design.

10-15 foot rooms are smaller than the average bedroom.

It is okay to have big open areas.

>>50112113
Yo, an unrelated anon. How do I learn decent dungeon design? I just make random shit up.

>>50112113
Yeah, that shit is like tiny caves. It's not appropriate for a "Grand Dungeon", a "lich's Castle" or anything like that.

I want to play a fucking Mammoth Rider at some point and not have to cheese out the squeezing rules to my companion can contribute.

>>50112127
Basically? Think about layout. Look up the layout of some real castles or something, and then just overlay a grid. After that, think about chokepoints, high ground advantage (The balcony overlooking the lower room for instance)

Also, that's something that basically no GM ever does. Tactics. It's why dragons doing a circle strafe is such a big deal.

>>50112127
Step 1) Look at actual architecture.
Step 2) design things based on what you see.

Optional Step 3) Get so into it that you become an engineer / architect.

>>50111249
No

>>50112144
Instructions unclear, accidentally turned my penis into the eiffel tower.

Ow.

>>50112329
Well, miniatures are always very impressive in themselves.

>>50111431
Your dm is retarded. Wizards, Clerics, and Druids are THE strongest classes in the game.

>>50112130
Fuck, not even tiny caves - I read about some guy who's been living in a cave in the Northwest Territories / alaska or the yukon during the winter because it's so fucking comfy.... and he has wifi.

There's also plenty of places in the world where people live relatively happily in caves; like in the Mediterranean where it's actually a lot cooler and cheaper than above-ground dwellings. Some with awesome shit like natural springs.

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>>50111321
This is the cutest you get, so hope you like thick and ugly and probably used goods that smell of incest and shit

>>50112412
It's only incest if she gets pregnant a fifth time!

>>50112412
Is that triple-boob, an errant tumor, a fourth boob hidden by fat-

Wait how the fuck would an ogre breastfeed three kids at once unless she's laying on her side or stacking her fucking infants

>>50111431
If you have enough Wisdom, start taking levels in Cleric instead-there's plenty of ways you can just buff up and hit shit very hard, plus utility spells, although you'll have to go with a single 2H weapon.

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>>50111202
My game's tonight! Hopefully I get to bash in faces with a shield.

>>50111249
Not really. She's kind of annoying. (7 CHA)

>>50112476
Everyone's advice so far is either "multiclass" or "make your peace with sucking because you fucked up" or "your DM is retarded", so fuck it, I'm just going to bully them into porting to 4e where everything doesn't fucking SUCK A HAVERSACK OF DICKS.

>>50112500
To be fair, that's because you are going core-only. With full 1pp support, noncaster martials become decent-ish, and 3pp nets you good martials.

>>50112510
yeah, core only is your problem

>>50112500
Seriously if you want to be a martial character just play a Cleric with war domain.

How bad of an idea is it to ban all casters, even half and quarter casters unless they have an archetype that gets rid of casting and run a low magic urban campaign? Maybe a little wilderness. The players would really only fight other humanoids, animals and maybe some magical beasts.

>>50112847
Very bad. 3.PF's martial mechanics are ass and unfun.

>>50112847
At that point, you're much better off just using another system entirely. Low magic and Pathfinder don't mix.

>>50112847
Very bad, and you should look to another system for that sort of thing.

>>50112847
Don't play PF to do this.

A more fair way to do PF right is to make everyone casters, and make "fighters" be the ones who use their magic to enhance their bodies, weapons and armor.

>>50112856
>>50112859
>>50112865
>>50112877

That is what I told my players. There is an eye of the god or something like that I picked up that seemed good for that but my players insisted on PF for some reason. They prolly just dont want to learn a new system.

>>50111249
10 charisma, he doesn't like to be seen

>>50112888
Tell them you won't run, then.

Hey people, are there any canon magical enhancements for multi-form weaponry (like dagger becomes greatsword with a word of command)?
Alternatively, are there any scabbard versions of handy haversacks for weapons too big to be sidearms like polearms and shit?
>inb4 handwave it
I'm too autistic. My dm allows me to do that anyway, but I'd rather have a good explanation.

>>50112938

I mean, how bad could it really be, rogues, barbs, vigilantes and maybe a fighter. Do a little intrigue, some city chases. I wont have to worry about magic. Maybe no one will play a monk?

>>50112996
You could use http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rods/rod-of-dwarven-might or http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rods/rod-of-lordly-might

>>50113067
>Magic Items > Rods
No wonder I wasn't finding shit, I was looking into Magic Weapons.
>CL19, 70kGP
Whew. Well at least the concept exists within the canon rules, I can work with that.

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So, how do I get to play something with massive shurikens?

>>50111159

>tfw no gentle yet sexually aggressive oni-blooded Tiefling gf

If I fight with a reach weapon while wearing a spiked gauntlet, do I threaten both the 5 and 10 ft ranges? Does that count as dual wielding?

>>50113122
Keep in mind that the rod includes a +4 weapon, which would cost a little over 32k by itself.

>>50111249

Definitely.

Rogue AI in a VRMMO game that loves birds and lizards, and was basically adopted as a little brother/sister by another player after his origin was revealed.

>>50113036
What would you have them fight?

Magic items are needed for most enemies, and someone has to make them.

Also, how will you heal between fights? Waiting will slow down the game.

>>50113249
>What would you have them fight?
Other humanoids. Urban campaign so exp would be gained through creative use of handling encounters and not just murderhoboing. Maybe the occasional magical beast but mostly mundane animals. They wanted "Sandbox with minor directions" and I have a city-fu that is filled with lots going on so it might be for my benefit because I never get to use it.

>Magic items are needed for most enemies, and someone has to make them.
It would start low level and if no one else has magic and they are not fighting dragons and demons they should be okay.

>Also, how will you heal between fights? Waiting will slow down the game.
That worries me. It is why I would allow the paladin with the archetype that removes casting. Maybe I will give them all the heal skill as a bonus. But it is urban so they should not be getting too roughed up at first anyways.

>>50113124
Starknives. Starknives everywhere.

Take Cleric (Or Oracle) with your god as Desna (her favored weapon is a Starknife) and dip into Ninja or Rogue. Take all the Thrown weapon boosting feats as you care to take.

>>50113331
How long will you keep them at low levels?

>>50113202
1) Yes
2) No

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>mfw that entire last thread

My hopes of joining were dashed as quickly as the excitement to see that group in action rose!

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Is the Dragonheir Scion archetype for Fighters any good?

>>50113727
It didn't even fucking work by RAW unless they changed something.
>>50113702
To be fair people only really gave a shit about 3 of them, so even if the DM does pick all of them there would still be one.

And that's assuming all 3 of them retain interest, get picked, etc. A lot of bullshit can happen in a month.

>>50113744
Why not?

What are some fun animals for my level 8 druid to assume?

>>50113749
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/dragonheir-scion-fighter-archetype
>This ability replaces the bonus feat gained at 5th level*.
>editors note: Fighters do not get a bonus feat at this level because Paizo is retarded.

>>50113760
Fucking Paizo
I didn't see that because I use Archives of Nethys instead of d20pfsrd
Besides that part though, is it a good archetype?

>>50113754
Komodo dragons. Their bite is nothing to fuck with.

>>50113744
>so even if the DM does pick all of them there would still be one.

It's gestalt PoW running an AP, the DM could quite easily keep the three and smash all the things.

Besides, they've got a solid theme going with their characters, what would the fourth one add to the party? None of the other characters seemed to click particularly well with the trio.

I just want to know the DM's found his characters so I can move on with my life and find another group. A lot can happen in a month but a lot of games can form and start in that time too.

>>50113773
Doesn't look all that hot. You look like a bootleg bloodrager. I'd recommend that if you want Full BAB, Dragon Warrior action.

>>50113784
I was honestly planning on multiclassing into bloodrager anyway

>>50113778
>Besides, they've got a solid theme going with their characters, what would the fourth one add to the party?
I don't know man contrast.

And only two of them are related to Ameiko right? The Dhampir(hell I'm pretty sure I know who's playing the Dhampir character myself) and the Oni-spawn.

The other one's just some random wolf girl iirc.
>>50113803
>multiclassing Bloodrager
>delaying spells, rage powers, and bloodline abilities
For what purpose my dude?

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>>50113822
>The Dhampir(hell I'm pretty sure I know who's playing the Dhampir character myself)

That makes two of us, brother.

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>>50113822
Whenever you say "barbarian" everybody thinks pic related

>>50113727
>>50113744
And don't forget you only ever get the base +1 damage from Arcane Strike because it says nothing about a caster level.

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>>50111280

>>50113866
Refluffing is a thing anon.

There is absolutely nothing forcing you to have your Bloodrager be some savage from generic frozen north land unless you want to.

>>50113888
My DM would definitely realize the RAI for that
>>50113908
Tell that to my group

>>50113913
Okay where is your group?

>>50113896

She smells and is ugly.

>>50113922
Up each others asses watching anime probably

>>50113908
>Refluffing
A fluffer that does her job right the first time doesn't need to go back and fluff again.

>>50113983
Just ask them what the hell is a fighter supposed to be then, if class=character?

Or an Oracle, they don't tell the future. They get very few tools to do so even.

What are Magi?

Shit man, there are even examples of Alchemists that weren't really scientists in Paizo AP's.

Sorry your group is so damn dense. Good luck.

>>50114052

Another good example I've seen used around here he could suggest to the group is the Slayer.

Oh sure it's a fantastic assassin-y political intrigue class, but in a pinch (aka, a single trait) you can turn the man-hunter into a normal hunter. Instead of some skulking sellsword in Magnimar, you're a bumpkin woodsman in Sandpoint.

And if the chuckleheads try to challenge that, it's so easy to point out how Rangers and Hunters are too *magical* to represent a "mundane" woodsman.

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Where can I find a list of all the "bastard" weapons (two handed martial and can be used in one hand with EWP) without going through every single weapon?

>>50114169

Bastard sword and Katana.

Congrats, that's all there is.

>>50114161
>Oh sure it's a fantastic assassin-y political intrigue class
It's not even an assassin guy. It gets access to medium armor, EVERY martial weapon, and shields.

>>50114169
Pretty Sure it's just Bastard Sword and Katana, but I could be wrong.

>>50114185
>Great terbutje exists.
Congrats you're retarded.
>>50114169
Youll just have to look through all the weapons desu.

>>50114187

Those are things that would be ignored in much the same way Oracles not actually being oracular would be ignored.

>>50114194
>>50114169
Great Trebujte

>>50114224
>>50114185
Oh yeah and the dwarf weapons

>>50114169
Bastard sword
Katana
Great terbutje
Estoc
Flambard
Dwarven war axe

I think that is all of the bastard weapons

>28 Woodstock photos that will make your skin crawl

I don't even get what this supposed to mean. Am I going to get a sympathetic high or something? Woodstock was actually full of murder?

>>50114292
>he isn't disgusted by hippies
Dirty commie bastard.

>>50113685
Thanks anon.

>>50114310

Disgust and skin crawling are two different things.

Besides the sample pic isn't even bad, it's just lame.

>>50114285
Aren't Sawtooth Sabres bastard weapons as well?

>>50114394
No they're just long swords that are treated as light weapons for TWF if you have EWP with them

>>50112101
>lemonshred.jpg
>clearly shredding an orange

I need a level 3 character for a one-shot campaign.
Preferably one that
-wields a nodachi
-has a high crit range
-multiclasses into two or three different things
-is cool

Any suggestions for which classes to pick up? I was thinking Titan Fighter for one of them to get an oversized nodachi.

>>50114414

It could be an orange lemon.

>>50114422
What anime is this character stolen from?

>>50114402
Oh, my mistake. It is a similar effect though, I must have got confused between that and bastard weapons.

>>50114445
it's based on Osaka from Azumanga Daioh

I'm thinking Titan Fighter 1/Devolutionist 1 (to get a retarded caveman squire)/some-Cha-class-that-gets-a-BAB-at-1 so I can take Eldritch Heritage

>>50113913
>My DM would definitely realize the RAI for that
I'm not even sure what the RAI *is*, since Draconic Strike gives you an extra 1d4 of damage of your element when using it, and Arcane Strike caps out at +5 at level 20.

>>50114680
I don't remember a lot about Azumanga Daioh, but I'm 90% sure there weren't cavemen and nodachis.

>>50114680
>some-Cha-class-that-gets-a-BAB-at-1 so I can take Eldritch Heritage

So... Paladin, Bloodrager, Swashbuckler, or maaaaaybe Cavalier?

>spending this much time writing up a backstory for a character I probably never play.
What the fuck is wrong with me.

>>50114721
Thanks! Just what I was looking for.
I think it's between Paladin and Bloodrager, not sure which is better for a lvl 1 dip because I'm not familiar with their archetypes.

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>>50114931

Which game are you applying for?

Can you tell us a little about the character?

>>50114931
Use it as the background for an NPC in a game that you will never run.

Or, you go all the way in and add another few thousand words for NaNoWrimo.

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I dunno about you guys, but I generally prefer to refluff my Bloodragers to be like Rand Al'Thor or the other Asha'man channeling Saidin.

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>>50114931

Everyone's got a few incredibly-fleshed out characters that have never seen the light of day, anon.

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>>50115010

And sometimes, once in a blighted moon, you get to play that incredibly fleshed out character in a campaign that doesn't ask for depth and you start fucking up the roleplay session after session.

The only thing worse than a shelved character is a wasted character.

>>50115010
Tell me fennec-anon, are there any other cute animals, aside from fennecs and owls, that you like?

>>50111249
Nope, Lanky butchers apprentice turned militiaman.

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>>50114680
>MFW
I fucking called it

>>50114953
The RotRL one.
>Son of a Sandpoint native+semi retired adventurer
>dad died protecting the town before he was born
>mother grew to be overprotective of him, resulting in him being somewhat friendless. That combined with his natural eccentricities made him an outcast
>his escape from this was fiction and history, where he began to idolize powerful mage and psychic figures for their raw forcefulness. Something he wish he could posses.
>began to develop his own pseudo psychic/magic power(spheres) in his off time
>awkward children make for awkward teens, spent most of his free time writing shitty prose and stories and practicing his powers to deal with his feelings
>eventually became a private tutor for nobles in Sandpoint and Magnimar. He made great coin but really wasn't satisfied with the way his life was going.
>his mother perishing in a church fire set his mind towards his own mortality, and he decided he was going to finally start living his life.
>sold all his shit and tried to become an adventurer.
>since he lacked people skills finding work was difficult.
>life was more exciting but still pretty shitty for him. Most of his time was spent helping guard caravans or ruin hunters staring at Thassilonian for days on end.
>he quickly fell into another funk
>returned home to visit his mothers resting place and "take a break", has currently been "living" in the Rusty Dragon INN and sustaining himself on what he earned, but funds are beginning to run low.

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>>50115259

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>Run PF game
>Decide I'm going to run a game based on all my fav anime and vidya: Naruto, Dragonball, Fairy Tail, Final Fantasy, Fire Emblem, etc
>Realize too late I haven't put any restrictions on PC creation
>Possibility that non-Japanese shit will show up
>Not a problem
>Time to use the soft railroading skills I learned from /tg/
>Player shows up with some bullshit ifrit arababoo character
>I take note of his CHA/DEX choice and say "Oh sorry bro, no elemental races"
>Say this fully aware that kitsune is the only other CHA/DEX choice
>Player changes to kitsune
>keikaku doori www
>Notice Covetous on charsheet
>"Why not make this about jade jewelry? That's cool right?"
>Other players nod in agreement, unaware of my machinations
>Kitsune player gently peer-pressured into agreeing
>thisisonlythebeginning.jpg

Planning to make this game about IRL human players who get trapped in a MMO, but they only realize it's a game half-way through the campaign. Thoughts?

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>>50115393

I recognize this art.

I recognize that post style.

You're not fooling me again, lewd fox.

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>>50115283

>>50115393
Nothing personnel, but get meme'd on, kiddo

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>>50115088

There's quite a few.

>>50115482
Fennecs are adorable, but the noises they make aren't. They make pain yelps when they're happy.

>>50115393
when does the molestation begin?

>>50115502

Nothing is perfect in this flawed world, anon.

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>>50115515
Hopefully never!

>>50111159
Is there any way I can hide a weapon in another weapon?Specifically, an estoc inside of a quarterstaff.Other acceptable choices are
Spear that functions as quarterstaff until the head is attached or dagger in quarterstaff

>>50115460
Filenames don't match up.

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>>50115502

Loud, yes. But lovable all the same.

>>50115545

Marcille is awfully whiny for a necromancer.

>>50115610
and kawaii too

>>50115610
You've never heard necromancers whine about their pick of corpses? It's always "This one smells too much" "This one is too decomposed" "I don't want to reanimate my mother-in-law" "I'm not about to get my hands dirty digging for commoner corpses in the graveyard"

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>working on Cervid/Ovid/Caprine race
>take a break from figuring out how to type up psychology section to actually work on stats
>can't figure out what racial traits to give them other than a couple based on unguligrade feet
Balls, and unfortunately my basic mammological education hasn't covered Arteodactylids yet.

Any ideas?

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>>50111159
TFW no giant gf

Why live?

>>50115689

Bonus to acrobatics?

>>50115700

It's not hard to find a burly waifu in Pathfinder, anything from humans to a Tieflings to half-Orcs can pick you up and give you a hug.

>>50115700

They're the result of fae fucking around, aren't they? Maybe some kind of bonus/malus to certain forms of enchantment or magic?

>>50115700
>>50115719

Sorry, wrong link. Meant to be >>50115689

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>>50115718

>>50111431
>Scotch accent
>Scotch
If you say that in scotland, you're getting a boot to the teeth.

>>50115707
I thought about it, though I figured that'd be kinda silly since they have 40ft base speed and can ignore difficult terrain in undergrowth and rocky terrain. Or am I wrong for thinking this?

>>50115719
They have a -2 to Wis, Count as both humanoids and fay, but with a susceptibility to spells and effects that effect any of those types. Should they have more?

>>50115743
That isn't burly.

I want a girl with arms like tree trunks and breasts like melons.

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>>50115743

>That smile
>Those eyes
>That off-the-shoulder shirt

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>>50115781

>>50115781
So you want a man, but with a puss puss?

>>50115755

Maybe his accent sounds like he's been drinking bad scotch all day.

>>50115799
pls don't bully

>>50115788
Fuck's sake, I was looking at that pic and thinking "Laius would probably hit that if he had the chance".

>>50115799
If that's what they're into. Personally I've seen worse.

>>50115799

That's a completely different fetish entirely, anon.

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>>50115781

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>Friend wants to GM
>Gets me hyped for game
>I make a character
gee anon I dunno. Guess I'm not feeling up to running this after all, I'd rather play another system with another GM.

>>50115931
Story of my life.

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>>50115950
Someday, If I save my character sheets, I'll be able to make an adventurer's guild for a campaign out of nothing but characters who's GM never started then I'll abandon the campaign too

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>>50115781

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How do you justify kitsune being blonde if they're supposed to be not-Japanese?

>>50116053
Prestidigitation.

>>50115799

N-no, I want a woman that just so happens to have indomitable strength and thighs that can crush my head like a quail egg.

>>50116053

They're Kitsune, in folklore the good ones had blonde/white fur.

>>50116053
Fey shenanigans

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>>50116070
Nothing wrong with that anon

How many is too many monsters in an encounter?
Is it fair to throw 10 CR 1 monsters at 4 person lvl 4 party

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>>50113834
>>50113822
>(hell I'm pretty sure I know who's playing the Dhampir character myself)

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>>50116087
Beware the Tien girl who just so happens to have blonde/white hair.

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/pfg/ I've got a player who wants to run a summoner that's built around building up a powerful eidolon rather than spamming summons from the summon monster SLA.

My first thought for a quick and dirty archetype is to give his eidolon HD and BAB equal to the summoner's class level and to replace all summon monster SLAs with Martial Training 1 @ 1st level (ignoring pre-reqs) with Primal Fury increasing the feat chain by one step every other level thereafter (maxing out at MT7 @ 13). Does this seem reasonable?

>>50115610
Dude, spoilers!

>>50116210
IIRC, each doubling of creatures is roughly +1CR. So 8 would be about the same as a CR3.

A lot of that is your own personal judgment.

>>50116053
They're fey, they can have blue hair and it'd be in-character for them.

>>50116248

I want to make a fluff sandwich!

>>50116305
If the critters are cr 1 would that make 2 of them cr 3, 4 cr 5, 8 cr 7 and 10 cr8?

That's obviously not the real CR, though.

>>50116305
>IIRC, each doubling of creatures is roughly +1CR.
+2, not factoring in the action economy.

>>50111249
Not cute, but cozy. Portly, bald, bearded dwarf with tiny spectacles and a big, bulbous schnozz. Cartographer and explorer, pretty bad in an actual fight but manages the party's supplies, finances and has pretty much all of the party's outdoor knowledge and experience. Tries to be polite, keeps a journal that he writes in every night after updating their maps.

>>50116242

You're pretty good!

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>investigators cannot get greater or grand mutagens
>only a few good investigator talents to pick from at any given point
>can't select any of the advanced rogue talents like, say, skill master muh take 10's

Having Inspiration rolled twice and applied to basically every skill is nice and all, but I'd like it to actually be a difficult choice for what to spend talents on.

>>50115781
Used to run a character whos entire sthick was two handing a giant hammer, orcish strength, barbarian rage and an enlarge person amulet.

That orc could outpunch a hill giant by level 10.

>>50115689
>Cervid/Ovid/Caprine
Suggestion #1: Maybe narrow focus on a narrower group of animals instead of trying to generalize dozens.
Suggestion #2: Don't say mammalogical. Fucking dork.

>>50116548

Stop bullying the dork, you jerk!

>>50116717
Stop bullying the jerk, you doofus!

>>50116248

Feiya has white hair and she's Tien.

She's not even a Kitsune, she's just a nerd.

>>50116749

Stop bullying the doofus, you hothead!

>Player bitches about special snowflake races and classes in pathfinder
>Insists that the Fighter is the pinnacle of class design and the cleric's primary role is healing
>Hates classes that have unique and interesting abilities, hates point buy, believes there's nothing wrong with crossbows being unworkably shit, and that gnomes are "based"
>Hates optimization, prefers low-magic campaigns in pathfinder
>Automatically hates 3pp by principle
How the fuck can someone have such an incredible collection of wrong opinions? How can you actively dislike everything that makes Pathfinder good, while simultaneously loving everything that makes it complete and utter dogshit, all the while using it for something that it is utterly incapable of doing?

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>>50116833
Is it wrong that I like gnomes?

>>50116780
Stop bullying the hothead, you small guy.

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>>50116892
>small guy
For you

>>50116857

A little, but I won't judge for it.

>>50116833

Some people prefer to keep their minds closed, it's tragic but just the way of things.

>>50116023
Convert them to NPCs and post them here. The rest of us can use them since the NPCs in the codexes are too weak.

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>>50116289
The eidolon is already a fighter anon, you don't need to make it even better.

>>50114438
Say that to my face you son of a bitch and not on the itnernet and we'll see what happens

>>50116857

Of course not. The party needs someone smaller and weaker to tease mercilessly.

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>>50117063
Say that to my face, ya butt!

>>50117000
notbhim, but when I think of Eidolons, FF13 appears.

And yes, I thought magical megazords was a neat idea at the time.

Go Go L'cie Rangers.

>>50116857
Kind of? I don't dislike gnomes so much as I just don't give the remotest shit about them, and the common opinion about gnomes in general seems to be complete and utter disinterest, being neither loathing nor loving.

To be fair though, the only small race I give a shit about are goblins because they're pretty versatile in concept much like elves.

>>50111249
A jolly old paladin that takes the role of group's grandfather/conscience. Can't say he's cute, but he'll make jokes and hand out candy to kids/halfings.

>>50117085

There's no need to get short with me.

>>50117085

We might have to get a ladder for you to do that, ruby.

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>>50113192
fuk off 'ser' Nipiyoshi

we only smite Goetian spawn here

>>50117013

What you think you're some tough shit? Well give me an address and I'll be over with some wine and chocolates before the sun sets, you fucking faggot.

>A Hedgewitch can be a better spheres magus than the actual magus

But why tho

>>50111319
>>50111467
No one replied, but I am asking again. Does anyone think an organization needs more info?

>>50117227

Maybe areas of influence?

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>walk into giant amazon tribe searching for ancient ruin
>they have never seen a man my size before
>they won't let me leave

>>50117226
But hedgewitches don't get spell combat or spellstrike which are the only redeeming features of Magus.

>>50117309

Yes, and?

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>>50117153
>>50117170

>>50117313
Those are the only redeeming features of a Sphere Magus. A Hedgewitch can do basically everything else better, especially if the only reason you'd want spell combat or spellstrike would be for applying a destructive blast to a melee attack.

Sphere Magus could do with being redone to be more modular, stealing stuff from archetypes to slot in and adding unique Arcana, but I doubt that will ever happen.

>>50117357

The only true and proper place for a gnome is behind bars.

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>>50117349
I only wanted to scavenge for ancient relics, I never asked for this

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>>50117381
The bars are only there to protect you from their wrath!

>>50117357

Now, now, no need for that face, especially not over a small thing like that.

>>50117382

What's your Stealth? Can't be too hard to escape the Amazons, or heck just ask nicely when they grow bored with you.

>>50117244
Ah, makes sense. Stuff like here is an example:

>Name: The Coven of Meliksil
>Approximate Membership: 30
>Demographic of Members: Hags & Changlings
>Classes of Members: Hags: Witch; Changelings: Witch, Rogue
>Organization CR (knowledge required to determine): DC 23 Knowledge Local or Nature; CR 8
>Organization Alignment: NE
>Organization Type: Secretive Anti-Political
>Current Leader: The Hag Meliksil, Sea Hag/Witch 9
>Notable Members: Zelig Drabek, Changeling Rogue 7; Maera Graeme, Changeling Oracle 6
>History: Meliksil is an ancient crone of a sea hag, once spurred by the captain of a military vessel from Rohas Vel she attempted to take bitter revenge only to find the man had risen in rank to that of nobility. Over decades she attempted to sabotage the man, and over time the hate of the man turned into a hate of the city.
>Legal Status: Illegal
>Sponsor Organization: None
>Political Leanings: Anti-governmental, Anti-nobility
>Location/Bases: Hidden grotto constructed from abandoned bathhouse in the Mottside flood district
>Areas of Influence: Criminal organization across Mottside know to pay respect to the crone

>>50117403

Not going to lie, the thought of an angry gnome ineffectually bapping your back as you carry her back to camp is oddly adorable.

>>50117382
challenge them to a game of tickle fights

>>50117434
Can someone tell me how interested you would be as a player in an organization given this much information?

>>50117434
>>50117472

Well, it'd certainly make it easier to see who's in charge of what, and who I'd have to honk off in order to get ahead in whatever I'm pursuing.

>>50117509
Yeah, finding out the leader and notable members also have knowledge checks based on their CR, but I see what you mean.

>>50116857
Weirdly, the Golarion version of gnomes are actually kind of interestingly-written, so it's fine in this instance.

>>50117382

Look, the road to ancient treasure needs some sacrifices. Maybe that means selling out a coworker, maybe that means marrying a big, burly, inhuman amazon. So stop thinking about what you want, and start asking yourself if you're willing to do whatever's necessary to get it.

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>>50113702
>That feel when people talk about your characters and their interactions positively.

I wasn't expecting us to get popular, things just fell into place.

>>50117654

>Things just fell into place

Don't you love it when that happens? Just flow with it, friend, see where the stream leads you.

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>GM: "You opened the trap door too loudly, and it alerted 3 individual encounters and they all ambushed you now at once."

>>50117738
That sounds Fun

I need help as I am building the setting wiki. Let's say the entire wiki is devoted to a single city.

What information are you looking for you hope to find in the wiki?

>>50117738
>not using the properly specified amount of trap lube

>>50117807

Everyone should take wd40 with them while adventuring.

>>50117768

Quarters, neighborhoods and famous stores.

Be sure to include more than just magical sundries or smiths; butcher's, furniture stores, exotic wares, taverns and clothiers are all appreciated.

>>50117768

Local authorities, legitimate, otherwise, and the actual extent of their authority.

what do i do when gm makes encounters that just make me apathetic and i dont feel like playing anymore

>>50118029
Give us an example

>>50118049
no i dont really care to

>>50118095

Okay

>>50118095
Then why did you post it famalam ?

>>50118095
>dont really care to
It seems the apathy is a problem in you, anon. Not your GM.

>>50118136
why does it matter
nothing matters

>>50118148

IT ALL
RETURNS
TO NOTHING

>>50118148
CAN'T WAKE UP

>>50118148
CRAAAWLLING IIIIN MYY SKIIIN

>>50118148
Are you okay anon?
Do you need to talk about something?

>>50118232
i wanna play in my games but at the same time say to the gm that im not having fun
i just want to have social interaction

>>50118254
Talk to the GM in private then? Figure something out?

>>50115700
>why even live?

Because the only alternative is oblivion.

>>50118254
What about the games is fun to you? Try to figure that out first, then you can attempt to rekindle the good vibes you want to have for your sessions. After all, while nobody is a mind reader, most non-autist people have an uncanny ability to know if others are having a good time or not, and it doesn't matter if you're a friend playing a game orif you're some nerd making videos on Youtube, people will eventually notice.

The biggest thing is having good enough friends that once they hear that you're not having fun they'll try to help you have fun again.

>>50118290
that does not seen so bad after all

Is Psychic Armory good, especially when mixed with War Soul?

>>50118605
yes
Psyarm is good without warsoul

its gaaaame niiight

Hopefully i don't TPK the party.

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>>50118720

Game night! Game night! First session of knightly knights doing chivalrous things!

>>50118631
And what disciplines fit it the best?

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So I was interested in making a Warlock Vigilante but I'm not well versed with the class. What feats and talents would be solid picks for building a kind of ranged Warlock with their bolts?

Third party stuff is usually allowed at my table so those suggestions are also appreciated.

What about a greataxe with the skillful enchantment?
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Skillful_(3.5e_Equipment)
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Greataxe

Is a d20 one step up from a d12 or does the DM tell you to order a 14 sided die?

>>50118939
I'm pretty sure the next step up from a d12 is two d8s...

>>50118793
solar wind
tempest gale
elemental flux
sleepy goddess

>>50118974
it is two d8s, yes

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MY MAN, YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

First of all, base Warlock Vigilante is shit, 1pp mystic bolts are shit. Deal with it. Second of all, Legendary Vigilantes and Legendary Villains: Vigilantes. Those two books are your BEST FRIENDS. The latter is not out yet. EhnJolly, the mind behind them, frequents the threads, so he probably wouldn't mind sharing. Third, there's an entire guide on the topic, albeit unpolished and a bit outdated in places, due to covering materials from Jolly's playtests, some of which got moved to other books. It covers most of the stuff from the mentioned books properly, though, so it's a good place to start. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qAYaDl9Iz7yoszTHGF5G7BexiiW4pFIG9DLEEUdA6ro/edit

As far as doing ranged? You'll want the usual suite of Point Blank+Precise Shot and Rapid Shot, but also the TWF feat chain. If you're allowed to use stuff from the mentioned 3pp books, you ARE getting Genius Vigilante (or Charismatic Caster) and Mystic Accuracy. No buts.

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>>50119011
Meant to quote >>50118879 but I got too excited!

>>50118974
>>50118988
Makes sense
Thanks

>>50119033
You have joyous enthusiasm, Anon. Never lose that spark.

In Gestalt a Knight Disciple/Oracle just seems cancerously strong.

Charisma to all saves, AC, initiative, charisma to some saves a second time, casting, initiating, hp (by becoming a juju zombie).

The only one I can't get is to attack.

>>50118405
You say that now, but you will see. Or, rather, you won't. There will be nothing left of you.

>>50119078

What would a Knight Disciple/Oracle even be, backstory wise?

A prophetic knight?

>>50119121
i know that my brawler/bloodrager has a backstory as a failed monk

in that she was sent a monastery to CHILL THE FUCK OUT but really it only taught her that punching is a good time.

>>50119137

I didn't know the Land of the Linnorm Kings had monasteries. In fact, I thought they encouraged punching.

>>50119167
i mean they probably have some monasteries

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>>50113455
Is there no class / archetype built around throwing weapons?

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>>50119011
Thank you kindly for the link! I'll read it over and keep an eye for those books. I do like EhnJolly's work from what I've seen elsewhere.

Also ideas for races? Was personally debating Kitsune just given their flavor as natural deceivers but I'd like your opinion given your enthusiasm is just so adorable.

And I'm assuming go Avenger over Stalker given full BAB over normal 3/4?

>>50119183
I think Fighters currently hold the top spot when it comes to throwing weapons. Easier access to Ricochet Toss and Trained Throw are good stuff.

Or alternatively, Vigilante, since that batarang talent they can get is also turbogood.

>>50119182

They do not, unless the Tien immigrants hid some around the Thanelands.

The Ulfen are not known for their peaceful meditation, I'd go so far as to argue they would see your woman's restlessness and encourage her to go out raiding.

>>50119121
Oracle flavor is just you were chosen by a god and given a curse.

So I was noticed and picked up to be trained essentially after someone saw my CRIPPLING DEFORMITY.

>>50119195
I'm pretty sure Warlock trades out specialization.

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>mfw your game is tonight but you've been struck with the brain dead 'tarded bug.

FUCKING BULLSHIT

>>50119230
Hmm, maybe thats a better way to spin it

She's not much of the raiding type though, in personality

>>50119246
Oh yes it does, my bad.

>>50119242
>So I was noticed and picked up to be trained essentially after someone saw my CRIPPLING DEFORMITY.

Tell me all about your CRIPPLING DEFORMITY, how gross is it?

>>50119248
I know that feel. This one guy I game with has that every week.

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>>50119077
>>50119195
Thanks anon! I just can't help myself, because even if it was a massive disappointment of an archetype when it was released, I adored the IDEA of a Warlock. That there's now ways to make it actually functional just make me adore it more!

Still have yet to play one, unfortunately. I may be stuck trying to take one on as a cohort for my Oracle, maybe. Depends on how things go.

>debating Kitsune
If you want to go for Cha, they're great. If you're holding off for Int-sune, they will also be great. Legendary Villains will give you support for Cha and Int, though the former will turn your Warlock into a Spontaneous caster. If you're not playing a Yokai kitsune I will be mildly disappointed in you.

>Avenger over Stalker
Neither, because you lose your Specialization in exchange for Mystic Bolts and 6th level spellcasting.

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>>50119250
>She's not much of the raiding type though, in personality

Well senpai, what if she was part of a raid group went wrong? If I recall, there is a Jade Regent campaign trait that says you were "rescued" by Koya Mvashti or Shalelu, maybe your adorable wulfen girl was discovered and nursed back to health, and out of some measure of shame she's decided to stick around Sandpoint!

Lotsa ways you can spin this, senpai-a-lam, the majority of Skinwalkers in the Linnorm Kingdoms can be found on the border of Varisia anyway.

>>50119262
My CRIPPLING DEFORMITY is the fact I small like garbage all the time no matter how much I scrub.

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>>50119309

Wow, that deformity stinks!

>>50119242
>Oracle flavor is just you were chosen by a god and given a curse.
IIRC it's not even that. You can be chosen by multiple gods of a single concept working together or even mysterious cosmic forces.

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>>50119372

I wish a god would choose me.

Or anyone.

>>50119078
>GM uses Steel Serpent
>GM uses augmented Ego Whip

>You are now taking CHA damage all the time

What now, anon?

>>50119283
I was seriously thinking of Youkai. Hard to figure out who you are if everyone thinks you're a fox or your 'wizards' familiar if the caster of the part wants to come off as more of a trustworthy type of caster.

Yeah I noticed that >>50119258 That was my bad.

>>50119396
I cure it with the fact I can cast spells to reverse ability score damage spontaneously.

>>50119304
And ended up working at the bakery?

>>50119439
And then ability drain

>>50119462
Again, those things hurt literally all characters. An oracle/paladin is one of the most well equipped to fix their own.

>>50119385
Remember, hope rides alone.

>>50119442

Hey, girl's gotta eat, right?

And I figure she isn't the type to work at the Pixie's Kitten, so a bakery's the next best thing!

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>>50119492

Hey hey, hey! The Pixie's Kitten is a well-run establishment with highly compensated men and women who satisfy the carnal urges of the town! It's a perfectly respectable career option in Sandpoint!

>Tfw keep thinking of Avowed gestalt builds for runelords
>Have to tell myself to stop because at least 50~70% of the pacts that will be out by January aren't even available yet


Four levels in an Old One pact would mean I can use sleeping goddess and eternal guardian on any target at all, which is neat, but I've used SG lots before and intimidate builds aren't my style.

>>50119411
Literally the only good way to play kitsune, desu.

>>50119628

But does it smell like fresh-baked bread all the time?

>>50119411
I think there's an archetype in one of the Gonzo books for wizards where you are actually the animal, and the 'wizard' is the familiar.

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>>50119687

N-No, unless they have a woman living there who enjoys baking fresh bread for her clients!

I'm just saying you could do a *lot* worse than the Pixie's Kitten for jobs in Sandpoint, the girls there are treated really well.

>>50119713

Can you buy breadrolls so thick and fluffy that you can serve cheese-and-onion soup in them at the Pixie's Kitten?

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>>50119779

You sure can, if Wulfen girl is working there!

Seems like a good schtick, yeah? They pay for the exotic, well-built Ulfen woman to serve them as a wife for the night, and the next day they go home well-fed, well-spent and happy!

She certainly won't be lonely!

>>50119812
:I

but anon you forgot one thing

awoos are not for lewds!

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>>50119849
>but anon you forgot one thing

Did I?

Nothing says awoo has to be stuffing herself with dick every night. For all you know, she could just be playing the role of the dutiful housewife - and remember, the Ulfen are very well-versed in their stories! Sex is on the table, absolutely, but she could always just be telling the stories of her people while caressing the client in bed.