What would happen if the Imperium found a STC? Even if it had

>>50110849
The Admech would get their shit together.

>>50110849
An intact, non-corrupted STC? The entire Admech collectively orgasms at the largest and most valuable DAOT artifact in the Imperium's history, before calling in every favor they have and committing literally every available asset they own to it's retrieval and protection. The Imperium's tech advances in leaps and bounds as millennia's worth of knowledge and designs are decoded from it's database. The Imperium gains a huge boost in power from all this new tech. Perhaps enough to finally halt it's slow slide into the grave, or even to start pushing back against it's various enemies. Suffice to say it would be a massive shift in the balance of power.

>>50110849
AdMech do everything they can to capture the STC and it is either stolen like the one with medical data and dark eldar, or it is stored in mars and they just won't share

>>50110849
Of someone found a perfect STC they would probably get an entire soler system in the ultramar region to do with as they please as a reward

>>50110849
>AdMech collectively bluescreen
>magos/inquisitor/high lords feel threatened
>STC deemed heretical
>civil_war.jpg

the STC is damaged, lost or stolen and the imperium slips several notches down from its already tenuous position. Forge worlds are in rebellion, mars suffers a catastrophic schism that it never recovers from and everything just goes even further to shit

>>50110849
The plot advances.

>>50110849
I thought that occasionally, they DID find new ones, it just took FOREVER to get them approved, and whoever found it is forever branded a heretech, who is hunted down and never gets to see the day when his STC is finally accepted.

>Rogue Trader: Hey, Hey Admech. Look what I found! I'll give you this STC if you give me a Grand Cruiser for my fleet.
>Admech: FUCKING DONE! *throws a Grand Cruiser at the Rogue Trader as fast as the Warp allows.*

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>>50111111
nice get

>>50111805
That might be the case now, but I remember reading in the 4th ed rulebook that no STCs had been found.

>>50112046
No complete STC has been found. Occasionally members of the AdMech claim to have found fragments. Some f these fragments are real, by the vast majority are just new designs passed off as STC.

It's a self improving machine! We need to destroy it!

>Throw everything at it to secure it
>Get it, probably
>Use STC to make more STCs
>win

>>50112069
I thought Horus found a whole one before he purged his legion but after he decided to rebel against dad. The human civilization that had it was really friendly too. And then he declared war on them.

>>50111300
Well if you're not going to take this seriously...

>>50111805
No COMPLETE ones have ever been found.

They will occasionally find fragments like those two chaps that found the one that made a certain knife. They got given a moon or something.

Or the one that made Men of Iron. But that was tainted by Chaos and was thus destroyed by Gaunt et al.

>>50111105
You underestimate this.

To the AdMech, an intact STC is almost literally worth the entire Galaxy and everything in it.

>>50110849
Imperium? It's secretly transported to Terra and the non Mars faction use it to finally break the mechanicus monopoly on technology.

Mars? They used to gain a massive boost on their influence and without the Emperor around they'll push their agenda almost unopposed.

>>50111111

On /b/ you would recieve a collective internet blowjob for this get. Such a waste.

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If the Imperium ever found an intact STC, it would literally be game-over for every non-Imperium faction. Period. End of story.

An Ark Mechanicus ship, when linked with an Archmagos, literally fired at an Eldar ship, in an space-time gravitational storm with a dorsal mounted black hole cannon. The ship was guided by a farseer, so they were able to dodge the projectile moving at the speed of light. At which time, the Ark Mechanicus ship fired some time-based tachyon weapon to move the Eldar ship back in time a nanosecond to ensure the shot connected and obliterated it.

STCs are literally what happens when you finish science. As in, all of it.

>>50114045
>doing shit secretly from the AdMech
Not possible.

>>50112945

Was it a nice Moon?

The concept of AdMech being extremely grateful and generous is kind of cute, I thought they'd just try to take it and that's that.

>>50114134

The Necrons finished science, what Humanity had in the age of STCs was amazing but it wasn't pure bullshit magic like the green tin cans.

>>50114134
that's not how you spell necrontyr, friend. Call it fanwank if you must but during their enfleshment the necrons achieved miracles of cold science that are so far removed from anything man will ever accomplish. An STC would help to level the playing field against eldar witchery and the Tau's current tech edge. Not turn a sect of sentient botherboards into sorcerers

>>50112043
>>50114093

I know..the blueballs from a wasted quint are something else

>>50114409

If they were so smart why couldn't they scrub their DNA of hyper cancer?

>>50114324
They're grateful and generous if you go, "AdMech senpai! AdMech senpai! I found this and want you to have it! <3"

If you go in like a Rogue Trader, looking to see how much you can squeeze out of them, they'll do their best to fuck you with a chaindildo as they take the STC.

>>50114497
Yeah and most Rouge Traders would have enough common sense to not piss off Mars.

>>50114497
So, say you're a rogue trader and found one, how would you maximize your profit off it?

>>50114540
>Work out how to pull information from the STC
>copy and sell parts of this information to the Tau
>then sell directly to mars

>>50114540
>say you're a rogue trader and found one, how would you maximize your profit off it?

Contact your nearest Forge world and announce you've found an STC and want to give it to the AdMech.

This isn't some treasure to be bartered off, this is the holiest of holy to the industrial arm of the Imperium. Trying to bargain for a good deal on an STC with the AdMech is like trying to bargain for a good deal on the Emperor's corpse with the Imperium - you are *not* going to have a good time and you *are* going to get a bolter through the head for doing so.

As has been proven before, the AdMech is absurdly generous for even fragments of an STC gifted to them by those who find one, as long as you keep your ego in check and present the thing as pristine as you found it, the AdMech will give you anything.

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>>50114587

>>50114605
>>50114540

Also, the ultimate thing you could find is not an STC, it's an STC Library.

STCs produce things like construction droids and threshing machines, it's the Library that contains the total sum of mankind's knowledge, and it's in a Library you'll find things like Warp Batteries and holographic field emitters.

>>50112945
>>50114324
It was more than a moon, the both got a civilized planet to rule over. Each.

>>50111111
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>>50110849
I played a dark heresy game where we found a lost STC with formula's the mechanicus mostly already had, but also contained a few incredibly useful things like how to RETROFIT (some kinds of) WEAPONS ON KNIGHTS.

It was difficult, arduous and most of the party died, and by then the dude who was giving it to the admech was a feral world-er and didn't understand it's value beyond "tech dudes really want it and so do the bad dudes, make sure the bad dudes don't get it"

He walks in unceremoniously walks in, the sole survivor of a 6 man cell of the best of the best. He is scarred, beaten, maimed but unbroken and his masters Rosarius gets him audience with the magos, and the entire conversation went
>"you bear the sigil of the inquisition, are you an inquisitor"
"no"
>"Who are you?"
I am Grom, I came to give you this
>"What do you offer us"
Master said you wanted it. Now you have it. I hope it was worth his life, he was a good man.
>*inaudible squealing of joy*
Ok, well you're welcome. *leaves*

He walked to a poor part of towns noodle bar and got something to eat before returning to ask about what he was supposed to do now.

DM ended the campaign there, but I always wondered how the admech would have rewarded him.

>>50114660
It was six in a row.

>>50111105
If a space marine found it, they'd probably let him retire.

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>>50114619
AdMech's not physic, whose going to know your rogue trader has betrayed his race to filthmongering xenos for the sake of double dipping in wealth unimagineable

>>50111111
>Sextupalschecked.jpg

But what a waste of 'em, man

>>50114540

If you don't want to get the whole imperial wrath pissing on your parade, you get in contact with AdMech asap and hand it over, then pray and hope they choose to reward you over branding you a heretek and making you disappear.

>>50114464
Dumb theory, the old ones did the cancer, to see what would happen

>>50111111
Sigh, sadly the only way a nothing can go, makes one wonder why they care about this setting

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>>50110849
Basically, the AdMech would collectively lose their shit and mobilize everything to go get it and return it safely. Now, that sort of large-scale movement doesn't go unnoticed, and the Dark Mechanicus and traitor legions would also mobilize to fuck with the Imperium's shit as Chaos is wont to do. Likely some xenos races like the Eldar would also get involved on either side depending on how this all fits into whatever retarded scheme they're hatching next.

So basically, the planet this STC was found on turns into an all-out fucking battlefield. The Imperial Guard is fighting the traitor Guard and the Space Marines and CSM are dick-waving in the middle of it while the Orks are stomping around because they had to be included somehow and the AdMech are sending out their brains in a jar against the DarkMech's demons in a jar while the Eldar rub their hands together saying it was all according to plan when in reality they didn't do a fucking thing and will continue to not do a fucking thing.

Somewhere amidst all of this there are some titans and knights fighting because GW has to sell more knights.

Somewhere along the line in this, the STC gets destroyed, the Imperium gets pissed and declares Exterminatus on the planet, and nothing changes.

Welcome to 40k.

as a fa/tg/guy whose knowledge of 40k only comes from things I've read on this board, what does STC stand for in this context?

>>50115176
it's a robot that knows how to make anything out of whatever you have nearby.

>>50115176
>what does STC stand for in this context?

The STC is a Standard Template Construct, basically a blueprint that tells you exactly how to make a thing from the Dark Age of Technology using whatever materials you have on hand.

Thematically, the STC is a holy relic akin to the Holy Grail, it's the holiest of holy items to the AdMech and something they're willing to do ANYTHING to get.

>>50115176
Standard Template Construct - basically a bigass database that the original human colonists had with instructions on how to build everything they'd ever need to colonize a world, from farm equipment to weapons of war.

This is a huge thing for the Imperium since they have almost none of this information. The grand majority of it was lost to the ages and all they have are old printouts of some things like tanks and the like. Tech from back then (we're talking the Dark Age of Technology here - as in, amazing shit from when humanity wasn't fucking retarded) is of the utmost importance to the AdMech since even the weakest equipment from back then is better than what they're using now and could revolutionize the Imperium.

>>50114776
He would be given basically anything he wanted.

They would treat him like he shits gold and try to give him anything they think he wants until they feel like they're even.

>>50115176
Standard Template Construct.

Short version: it's a master archive of blueprints and manuals for nearly every piece of technology in human history.

Long version: it's a supercomputer, with both the manufacturing instructions, ingredient list, substitute ingredient list, and operation guides for the sum total of human technological history. It was put aboard the old Martian and Terran United Empire colony ships to accelerate the expansion of the old colonial network.

The problem is, the colonies didn't NEED all that shit. A little agricultural world doesn't need particle accelerators and macro-orbital traffic control sheaf satellites, for instance. What that wound up doing was limiting most worlds to just the basic structures and one or two specific, advanced pieces of technology (houses, power plants, tractors, etc) while the more advanced shit was rarely invoked. When the master copies of the STC on Mars and Earth were destroyed during the Age of Strife, humanity lost most of the advanced material, because there simply had been no reason for most colony worlds to actually use the information in them. Compounding the value of this old tech is that the printouts for them included some basic theory on the science behind the equipment it was making, like the physical, psychic, chemical, and biological processes involved in the operation of the technology or medicines in question. (1/2)

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>>50115236
>guard squad discover a scrap of STC tech
>it makes fucking slightly better knives for the astartes
>tfw you and your buddies found some tech shit and now you each own a planet

>>50115281

Civilized worlds too, so they aren't blasted hellscapes or smell like fertilizer.

>>50115271

This was mentioned before, but the "typical" STC did not have the truly advanced shit available during the DAoT, it was largely colonization equipment and "basic" weaponry to hold back uppity natives.

The STC of STCs is the Library, which contains *everything.*

(2/2)


The Mechanicum has outstanding bounties on any old STC gear. Third and second-generation copies of their blueprints are worth an immense sum, because they are usually just the duplicates of the blueprints without the accompanying scientific information and file headings that would let the AdMech fit that data both into their existing knowledge of science and the partial reconstruction of the master STC that they have (which is missing over half its information). First-generation printouts from the actual STC printers are priced beyond measure, because they also describe where in the file structure they belonged and explain HOW it works.

Relics of STCs, that is, perfectly operational STC products with no deviations from the blueprints, are also extremely valuable because they can be reverse-engineered, and the Mechanicum will send Arks Mechanicus (ultra-heavy battleships with in-built engineering labs and spectrometers and the like) to retrieve it.

An STC Library is a collection of datafiles that detail all of the information that would be in the printouts, and they're staggeringly valuable, because they're basically a collection of first-generation printouts and an itemized index of how to retrieve them from the original STC.

An actual, FUNCTIONAL STC would be valued beyond any other prize by the Imperium, because it would allow them to rebuild literally ALL of old humanity's tech achievements, plus what few improvements they've made in the interim (anti-Warp tech, vehicle suspension, directed Pulse Lasers, some Titan tech). They'd actually be able to surpass the Old Empire with that. It's why GeeDubs will never, ever allow it to happen.

>>50111111
>quints
>wasted on the most non sensical comment ever about 40k and the Adeptus Mechanicus

What if they found one that just essentially made "lasgun+1"? It was still just as easy to make, but was better in every concievable way.

How much of an impact would that have?

>>50115386
Depends on what, specifically, that +1 does. Realistically, whomever found it gets a huge reward and nothing else really changes.

>>50115386
The Imperium has just shy of a quadrillion citizens, maybe a trillion under arms, untold billions of laser-armed police and Arbites. They would almost ALL level up. Once the AdMech had production nailed down, the Imperium would get even harder to beat in a straight fight, since they would be able to arm PDF with the old lasguns and give the new ones to the Guard and such.

>>50115386
>How much of an impact would that have?

Nothing really changes beyond the Guard having better flashlights and whoever found the STC getting his own world.

>>50115412
>The Imperium has just shy of a quadrillion citizens

No.

The Imperium has tens of quadrillions native to just the Hive Worlds.

>>50115363

6

>>50115447
I've seen the number fluctuate, to be honest. Some of the numbers for Hive World populations aren't really possible, given the human birthrate and the limits of architecture.

>>50115500
fuck of namefag.

You're also wrong, even without spacemetal and furte-architecture places like the slums of Delhi have population density so high it baffles the mind

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>>50115447
That is absolutely and indisputably wrong.

Please try harder next time.


>>50115500
https://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8

>>50115386
The untold billions of guardsmen receive the tiniest upgrade.
They grow from almost succumbing to the enemy's of the imperium to pushing them back bit by bit, the imperium's army is much more powerful than it was before, more reliance on guardsmen for elite fights than space Marines.
The imperium gets its shit together just a little bit more and life gets the tiniest bit better.

>>50114540
Fly straight to Mars and demand to give it to the High Fabricator personally. Maximum fame, fortune and flash.

Also, the High Fabricator is the only one powerful enough to accept it on behalf of the AdMech, without any rivals bitching about it.

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>>50110849

Forgeworld declares independence as the TRUE CHOSEN of the Omnissiah because Admech. The Admech are a bunch of greedy pricks. Hilarity ensues.

>>50115236
Humanity was still retarded, anon. It says in the setting bible that hobby techies dicking around with their colonies' only STCs is a major factor in their decreasing longevity.

They were just retarded in a different way.

>>50115331
>The STC of STCs is the Library, which contains *everything.*
This is from some shitty Black Library novel, isn't it?

>>50115412
>The Imperium has just shy of a quadrillion citizens, maybe a trillion under arms, untold billions of laser-armed police and Arbites. They would almost ALL level up.

In a thousand years, maybe. I'd like you to stop for a moment and consider the logistical difficulties of disseminating information through and retooling production facilities across pretty much autonomously governed forge worlds in a feudal system the size of the galaxy.

>>50115653
There's also the fact that the Admech would probably not even want to share it.

>>50115549

>Life gets the tiniest bit better

This is 40k though. The new guns would be tainted by Khorne or something and everyone who gets one falls to Chaos and the Imperium needs to annihilate a ton of planets.

Things aren't allowed to get better in the grim darkness of the forty-first millennium.

>>50115525
because they have a high immigrant population retard.

>>50115445
This. The AdMech would still suck your dick if you gave it to them freely.

>>50115669
With the lasguns they already distribute? Not seeing it.

>>50115670
>Things aren't allowed to get better in the grim darkness of the forty-first millennium.
It's a shame, I'd love a DAoT game or a Warhammer 41,000 game where the Emperor is back on his feet, humanity is on the offensive and technology was back at its peak. The DAoT fluff that occasionally turns up is by far the coolest stuff in 40k

>>50110955
Agreed. The Imperium jumps to the #2 spot in terms of technology, and if they can mass-produce it they steamroll other factions. They already outnumber everything but Orks and Tyranids. Give them tech on DAoT level and they win.

>>50115386
It might have some noticeable effect hundreds or even thousands of years down the line, but very little beyond a few people getting massive rewards. The logistics are against it. Assuming the absolute best case scenario and its a full on magic-lasgun making machine rather than just schematics, the Mechanicus accepts it all no questions asked with little testing and its possible to replicate the device - even if its operating constantly there's a hard limit to the amount of guns it can produce, which then need to be distributed. Even if you can replicate the device, you've still got to replace some of your existing manufacturing base while maintaining a constant output of weapons for all parts of the Imperial war machine plus private consumers. The guns need transport, the primary STC and the seed developments from it need constant guard so that they don't fall into the hands of an enemy before the designs can spread widely. Given how robust the standard Lasgun is, most existing weapons will remain in service for a stupidly long time before they need replacing, which means that there's still going to be tonnes of them about until the end of time.

Those regiments of the Guard that get the upgraded guns will show some improvement, assuming that anyone survives the engagement. This might even be noticeable at a higher Imperial level once production numbers get big enough. Unfortunately, at that level you will also be seeing rebels, heretics, mutants and cultists of every persuasion acquiring them in growing numbers, so its a bit of a wash really.

>>50115691
"Slum Population in Delhi - After Mumbai, Delhi has the second largest slum Population in India. Nearly 1.8 million people lives in slum areas in capital of India - New Delhi. These people are mostly unemployed or daily wage workers who cannot even afford basic necessities of life."

http://www.indiaonlinepages.com/population/slum-population-in-india.html

>>50115722

Warhammer 41k would actually be a hilarious April Fools from GW.

>>50115670

I don't think you understand what the grimdark of 40k entails, the broad strokes are bleak but things can be downright pleasant if you look hard enough.

Remember, gray is made out of just as much white as it is black.

>>50115621

Maybe? It's what I read on the wiki page for STC.

>>50115722
>Emperor gets back up
>Primarchs come back
>Daemon primarchs stop crying into their pillows and join the fray
>Orks win War of the Beast and create a super Waaagh
>Necrons stop fucking around on a go on Archer-style rampage
>Eldar finish creating their god
>Dark Eldar join the New Eldar
>Tyranids show up in full force
>Tau just use the same gay-ass plot armour as always

I'd give a fuck if GW would stop having their lore written by fanboys on a volunteer basis.

>>50115829
The tyranids are slowly overrunning the Octarius Empire. No way the orks can stop them.

>>50115916
If any Ork can, it would be Gazghul.

But how does a STC library look?

>>50115954

There's never been official art. There was a Gaunt book that described one, but it's been retconned to shit since then.

>>50115954
Fuck if anybody knows. It could be a supercomputer or some shit, it could a tiny disc (look up about some new quartz coins that can store 360TB of data for 14 billion years) with all the necessary programs and recipes, it could be anything.

>>50115968
>>50116004

This, pretty much. But knowing 40K, it'd either be a fuck-huge construct which you could fight an entire battle in, or something so small and seemingly insignificant it'd make the One Ring cry plagiarism.

>ITT People that missunderstand what an STC is

The Imperium already has thousands of them. One for almost every shit they produce. Leman Russ STC, Knight STC, Lasgun STC, Plasma Annihilator STC and so forth.

You are talking about the master library stuff that makes true AoT tech and those are rare as fuck but still exist (hidden) on several Forgeworlds. The true Master STC is the Omni-something that was discovered on a Daemonworld and the Ad-Mech is mobilising billions of Scitarii to reclaim it. But it's probably/most likely Chaos-tainted anyway.

>>50115916
I really couldn't give less of a shit which faction you fanboy for, buddy.

>>50111111
Sex confirms!

>>50116152
You are the one who is wrong.

>>50110849
Happened before
Two guardsman found an STC for a different kind of combat knife and were rewarded the governorship over two planets. Also became saints

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>>50116238

He is right though. It is an important part of the 40k fluff as it is why weapons like the phosphex cannot be made anymore as the STC was destroyed.

Here are some codex entries.

>>50116213
>fanboy
It's canon.

>>50114134
Youre over exaggerating a little, the eldar empire was leagues above any point of the human empire, and the necrontyr were above the Eldar. Finding an STC would massively help them defend their borders and push back, but it wouldn't be an instant win button

>>50114358
>>50114409
STCs didn't have C'tan batterys. If it's in the codex that they out tech the Age of Technology human federation then fine but some AoT stuff is up there on the bullshit scale as well.

>>50114632
Thank you, so many people don't get this.

>>50110955

This sort of happened already.

Minutes-to-midnight on the 13th Black Crusade plot has the AdMech discover the suspected location of an STC called the Omnicopeia on a Daemon World. The Omnicopeia is an STC which contains plans for every single Imperium design with a psychic component. It could give the knowledge necessary to repair the Golden Throne, or allow the Emperor to ascend as a true God of humanity, allow humanity to push back the warp, give them the knowledge to revive the Emperor's planned human Webway project, or even cause humanity to collectively awaken as a psychic species with enough power to push back the Warp.

So basically, every available Skitarii Legion (not currently occupied with rebelling the 13th Black Crusade) is assembling and coordinating a concerted assault on this Daemon world, bringing with them the full might of the Cult Mechanicus as well as the bizarre and horrifying weapons of Mankind's Dark Age under the Ordo Reductor. But the clock's set at minutes-to-midnight, so you'll probably see what happens come Age of Emperor.

>>50114358
>>50114409

Necrotyr couldn't touch the warp. Humanity Science is what your get when you finish Euclidian and Empyrean Science, instead of just sitting on your Euclidian PhD and not furthering your education.

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What does it take to get in trouble for tech heresy? Let's say on some backwater but still imperial world a person uses the motor from their broken down car to power a home built power hammer (like image related, not the weapon) for blacksmithing. Would that be considered a tech heresy? Or would somebody with the know how and drive to diy something like that already be recruited by the Ad Mech?

>>50114776

>but I always wondered how the admech would have rewarded him

After the shit he went through, what would a guy like that want?

The AdMech has straight given out Planetary Governor positions as rewards for finding STCs. I can imagine someone that jaded might just want some rest. I suppose that's something the AdMech can grant; a quiet, peaceful place, far from conflict and little noticed or bothered. A homestead on an agri-world, perhaps?

>>50118088

More like a Pleasure World, Agri are smelly and over-fertilized while Pleasures run the gamut of idyllic South Pacific to stunning woodlands filled with impressive game.

>>50118042
Humanity never reached the heights of the Necrontyr. The Necron technology was superior to the Old Ones. You know, the guys who actually mastered the Warp.

>>50118154
I think it's more of a case of technical specialty. The Necrontyr had good "physical" technology but couldn't do much about the Warp, whereas the Old Ones had better knowledge of the Empyrean.

>>50117935
>AoT stuff is up there on the bullshit scale as well.

No.

The DaoT technology humanity were below the Eldar Empire.

Necrons have galaxy eraser button in the Orrey and the Breath of Gods. With the Breath of Gods, they can the power to either recreate the galaxy or create a new galaxy.

>>50118195

This, the Eldar Empire was so advanced they considered DAoT Humanity an afterthought.

>>50118080
There's a very large room for wriggling when you bash already existent designs together, and the Mechanicus probably wouldn't mind if someone did that, but the Mechanicus always gets preference over any non-adept engineer if they're present for fixing stuff.
SOURCE: My ass. It's a big galaxy and all sorts of variations exist.

>>50116152
Anon here is correct, I have no idea where everyone else is coming from with all of this.
STCs are the basic building blocks of the imperium's manufacturing. They're black box machines; you put raw materials in, space marine armour comes out.
Some, like like the power armour stc, are understood and can be replicated and modified, giving rise to the variants of power armour, but they still stem from the same STC machines from the DAoT. They specifically explain much of this stuff in the second horus heresy book, when the sons of horus stumble across a human world that possesses a lot of STCs from the DAoT and as a result they're nearly indistinguishable from the imperium; their guardsmen look like miniature space marines because their armour is made from similar STCs.
Others, are not so common or well-understood. All STCs can, theoretically be reverse-engineered, but doing so gives a good chance of irreversibly breaking the STC, making attempting this process a high tech-heresy, as you could be destroying an incredible asset to the admech. Hence, most technology in the imperium is poorly understood, as nobody will risk dismantling the machines that make it, for fear of never being able to make more. The majority of DAoT tech falls into this category, almost all of the imperium's superweapons are unique and complete mysteries to the admech.
What are really valuable to the AdMech are blueprints for STCs and libraries of STCs. Blueprints naturally give an understanding on how they work and allow the admech to make as many as they want, and libraries are just collections of blueprints. It's a give-a-man-a-fish situation; A single machine that produces psychic knives is grand and all, and those few knives that they can make will be used as often as possible by the best swordsmen in the galaxy, but the blueprints to make the machines that make those knives allows every single astartes there is to wield one. If you found one of these, here's a planet.

>>50118114

Then the Slaaneshi cultist get uppity and suddenly the whole Hive is a writhing mass of screaming, moaning flesh melded together with the walls to make one massive phallic monument for Slaanesh.

Given his name is Grom, I suspect he was a Feral Worlder? Maybe he just wants that simplicity back; the chance to retire among his own savage people and get back to the good 'ol basics of hunting, gathering, getting drunk off fermented space-yak curd, and starting a family of savages with a nice girl who can skin a space-deer in half a minute.

It's the difference between grabbing at the greatest thing that's offered to you and knowing what you really want as a person deep-down. As Planetary Governor of, the guy could very well just be super incompetent (didn't seem like INT was his best stat anyway) and lead it to get more corrupted, and as he gets more jaded he just keeps himself distracted while things go south. A few generations down the line, Grom IV is slaughtered when the local Chaos Cult that's been festering gets loose and starts summoning daemons and the Grom family name lives in infamy. Really, the best place to be for someone jaded with the 40k setting is obscurity. You can drown in loose women and cocaine, but that's not really going to earn you any deep satisfaction when you've gotten used to it all.

>>50118270

>but the blueprints to make the machines that make those knives allows every single astartes there is to wield one

This is where Space Marine CCWs came from. Those two Imperial Guard scouts who found them basically found the knives that would later be used to arm all Space Marines. A planet for each indeed.

Of course, there's always those few craftsmen who decide to dedicate a little personal time to crafting something really well. That's borderline tech-heresy, but they requisition special materials, calibrate their machines for the finest of detailings, and use advanced processes to get a better result than the regular stamp-pressed version, and out of all that effort comes a Vortex grenade, a Master-Crafted weapon of that pattern, perhaps a flamer with some new chemical in the mix, or in the unlucky cases of tech-priests who work on something more volatile, a dead tech-priest.

>>50118299

Who said anything about Slaaneshi cultists? Pleasure worlds can produce Slaaneshi cults but they often do not, in fact some Pleasure Worlds are host to mental health hospitals ran by the Sororitas.

>>50118270
>They're black box machines; you put raw materials in, space marine armour comes out.

Nope.

A complete STC is a database where you input what materials you have locally available, what you want to make, and out comes the instructions for how to make that. It does not in itself manufacture anything whatsoever, the Adeptus Mechanicus aren't keeping those untold billions of manual labourers and servitors around because they're decorative. So deviating form the design won't break it, you simply don't follow the instructions. This being 40k though, such can lead to Skynet, daemons, or the device simply failing to work properly in a situation where the life of a lot of people depends on it working properly, so the AdMech are cautious about it.

Now the Imperium does not have a complete STC. It has more or less complete info on some things (chimeras, lasguns) which it then tend sot make extensive use of. It has partial information on some things, which then get a lot harder to manufacture. In some cases gaps in the information can be plugged by analysing artefacts, reverse-engineering, experiments, and general development work. And a number of items the full database contains are undoubtedly completely unknown to the Imperium, with no info whatsoever currently available.

By DAoT standards STC tech is extremely crude, simple and rugged. It's meant to be manufactured, used and maintained by basically anyone with a pulse, using whatever raw materials happen to be locally availible. No special training, aptitude, skill or intelligence needed. It's for colonists way out in the middle of nowhere, any place with a modicum of civilisation will pass on it for far more refined designs. And that's why it fits the Imperium, who needs reliable, rugged stuff that can be easily made from a wildly varying set of resources.

>>50118381

>some Pleasure Worlds are host to mental health hospitals ran by the Sororitas

Actually sounds like a good enough place to retire.

>>50114822
>expecting dubsfags to be able to count

>>50118595

Oh absolutely, the Sisters-ran mental health hospital is located on a world dominated by clear shallow seas and thousands of island chains with weather best described as "pleasantly tropical."

It's a favorite vacation spot for sector nobility, and while the shoals are famous for their delicious food and laid-back lifestyle, the men and women of the planet are infamously poor fighters.

Which isn't an issue due to said Sororitas presence, who you can be DAMN sure are spending time on the beach wearing temple-issued bikinis.

>>50115968
That wasn't a STC Library, it was a DAoT robot assembly device (maybe with first generation STC blueprints).

>>50118017
they gunna get corrupted

>>50118721
Oh yeah, you're right.

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>no one even brings this up
bunch of newfags

Literally an "I WIN" button against Nurgle.

>>50118195
>I disagree with you and can cite examples that back my argument.
>Also I have enough confidence in my communication skills not to resort to name calling.
It's not quite a smug loli servitor but I know when I'm beaten.
Let's see how people feel about my other post.
>>50118780
>Pleasant response agreeing I was right.
Um /tg/ I'm not complaining but this is out of character, is everything alright?

>>50119020
>>no one even brings this up
>>50111066
>AdMech do everything they can to capture the STC and it is either stolen like the one with medical data and dark eldar, or it is stored in mars and they just won't share

>>50118080
>>50118229

Just like with the Ministorium and the Ordo Hereticus, the correct answer is:

>It's a big galaxy and all sorts of variations exist.

Some Tech-Priests are focused on the big picture, and are totally okay with small innovations so long as they don't disrespect the machine spirits or transgress against their model of how the world works.

Others will gleefully execute you for replacing a missing star-head screw with a square-head screw.

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>992.M41 THE SCOURING OF JOHAN’S EDEN
>An ancient data-cache is unearthed upon the jungle planet of Johan’s Eden. The Cult Mechanicus descends, only to find the planet’s modest populace slain by Necron Canoptek constructs. Several war congregations launch a simultaneous attack. Eight years of war follow before the Cult Mechanicus recover the data-cache. Three intact STCs are recovered as a result – one for self-heating cookpots, one for parchment autoquills, and one for stable flux-core bolt rounds that can melt ceramite as if it were wax.

>>50119020
I was actually thinking about the Panacea. Problem is, GW has shoved so many galaxy-changing things into the universe that will resolve exactly when the story advances that it would take at least 100 books to flesh out the results of each one.

>>50118688
Do the Sororitas have anything about sex or nudity in their doctrine? Would they have a problem with sunbathing naked?

>>50119398
>self-heating cookpots

Reasonable

>>50119398
>Self-heating cookpots

Worth every Skitarii life.

>>50111111
this get is underappreciated

>>50119608
>Do the Sororitas have anything about sex or nudity in their doctrine? Would they have a problem with sunbathing naked?

Sunbathing naked? Only the Orders that have problems with nudity, which will not be the type present on a Pleasure World.

As for sex, they're probably expected to be celibate yet those vows are broken all the ding dong time.

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>>50114134

Let me show you void combat flesh metal one.

>>50112945
Isn't the land raider supposed to be an STC-built tank?

>>50119689
It's one of the few that aren't STC-derived, iirc.

>>50119672
Or they could be banned from having sex with males, yet still expected to "appreciate the holy human form" with their fellow sisters.

>>50119398
> A Necron tomb world.

Nothing can stand in the way of the Admech's fetish for cooking appliances.

>>50119689

An STC-built tractor, actually.

>>50118080
Inventing primitive stuff like that is completely fine. Most Cult members would even help you, because it's fun for them.

>Or would somebody with the know how and drive to diy something like that already be recruited by the Ad Mech?
Big galaxy yadayada. Some would teach you and convert you because obviously you hear the Omnissiah too. Others would ignore you because that shit is just too primitive for their liking.

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>>50119728
>>50119637
>>50119398

FUCK YEAH SELF-HEATING POTS, EVERY SKITARII SLAIN IS AN OMNISSSIAH GAIN

>Find an intact STC
>It's for a fabric that makes clothing slightly more comfortable to touch

What's it worth?

>>50119689
every single piece of technology in the Imperium, armor, vehicle, weapon, ship, radar, engine, comes from an STC, even if it has been modified.

>>50119727
>Or they could be banned from having sex with males

Oh please, you and I both know the Sororitas probably get themselves stuffed with choir boy gene-seed any chance they get since they don't technically count as men.

>>50119759
>What's it worth?

Probably a nice house on a nearby Civilized World and all the thrones you'll want.

>>50119633
>>50119637

Well, the:
>stable flux-core bolt rounds
Are basically Vengeance Rounds that don't Get Hot!, so that's certainly worth it.

>>50119723
The STC for the Land Raider and Land Speeder were both found by the same guy, he even named them after himself.

>>50119800
But it's not a self-heating cookpot

>>50119771
/ss/ a shit. Amazon on Amazon is far superior.

>>50119817

Well, no.

Also, no parchment auto-quills? What you going to write with, son, "regular" parchment quills?

>>50119784
Sounds like a good deal

>>50119800
And that STC is now lying deep into the junk of a deceased Magos' bunker, forevermore.

>>50118211
That was possibly far after their zenit for all we know. The Eldar Empire existed for a very long time after all.
You know the time when they lived for blackjack and hookers already.
And as arrogant as Eldar are I would not give much about shit like "We were always better than you!!111"
They could've pulled a Ramses II. "Yeah we did not attack them because they were only and afterthought. Had totally nothing to do with the untold legions of MoI. The army we sent? Well... here, have free super coke."

>>50119836

Okay fiiiiine, the citizens of this Pleasure World eventually find white-haired women going at it on the sandy beaches!

>>50119753
WORTH. EVERY. DEATH.

>>50119817
With every discovery, we come closer to becoming the greatest cooks in the galaxy.

>>50119759
>>50119784
>>50119867
IIRC, weren't the two space marine scouts that discovered the STC to a fucking combat knife awarded a planet each or something, or is that just a meme?

>>50119896
They weren't space marines, just normal humans.

>>50119896

They were Imperial Guard scouts. Space Marines wouldn't be allowed to get planets as rewards. But, yeah, they were two normal humans who were awarded Planetary Governorship of their own planets for their successful recovery.

But it was the STC for the combat knife that the astartes use as a standard pattern now. Basically infinitely reliable and durable and a tool and backup weapon. These aren't the boot-knives of your standard Imperial Guard regiment that gets slaughtered by the thousands.

Or so the fluff says. They make a big deal out of it like it being able to punch through Tyranid chitin and shit despite tabletop rules, a tool that's seen many Space Marines survive a desperate situation by the skin of their teeth where your standard combat knife might fail, gleaning that much of an edge over the odds. I suppose that's the point, really, giving humanity just that little bit of an edge over the darkness is worth these lavish rewards.

Even if it is just a combat knife.

>>50120008
I'm guessing the "planet each" thing is still true, though, right?

>>50120016
It has a mono-molecular edge, so it must be pretty good.

>>50120016

Do we ever learn what kind of planets they acquired Governorship over?

I imagine it would trigger a renaissance of sorts and the setting would move out of its 'dark ages' and enter a new era. Would be interesting to see what things would be like by 50k

>>50120024
Yes, see >>50120016

>>50120085

>mono-molecular

I just tech-jargon. Poorly misunderstood at that. It means it's a single molecule, although the word is also used to describe things that are a molecule thick.

Anyway, the point is that it's a knife that gives you an edge if you're sharp enough to see its advantages.

>>50120124

No. Ultimately it's not important to the fluff blurb, which is more about the history of the knife itself and how important the search and recovery of STCs are to the Imperium's survival.

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>>50120128

Dude, imagine the Renaissance in space.

>>50120153
>Anyway, the point is that it's a knife that gives you an edge if you're sharp enough to see its advantages.
Fuck off, Carlos

>>50120168
its called 'the great crusade'

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>>50120168

>30 Years War in the Imperium of Man

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>>50119675

Bring it.

>>50119045
/tg/ is quite polite, but we're interspersed with intense passive-aggressiveness. It comes from the fact that basically all our hobbies are collaborative.

>>50120233
>/tg/ is quite polite, but we're interspersed with intense passive-aggressiveness.
This; even if you hate someone's guts, that's no reason to be rude.
You just need to express your displeasure in other, far more civilized (and potent) ways.

>>50120233
It's actually the result of being a beta male.

>>50120168
Keep in mind that it'd take a couple of centuries to unfold, and it'd be anything but homogeinic. Warhammer 40k is at least one of the settings that somewhat takes into account how huge a galaxy is, even with FTL

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>>50111111

>>50120191
i imagine its a combination of the age of apostasy the morae schism and the terra nova intergum

>>50120153
Yeah I know what mono-molecular means. My point is that it must be really sharp, and certainly sharp enough to use as a weapon.

>>50120393

Moirae Schism and Terra Nova Intergum seems to have happened at the same time IIRC.

>>50120407
while they happened at the same time im not sure if they were both seriously linked to each other

>>50120316
That's a 4chan thing as a whole, not specific to /tg/.

>>50120448
except /pol/

>>50119760
That's not the case. For all their grumbling about Technoheresy the sheer logistics of the Imperium means the Admec can't entirely prevent invention. There are many worlds who see a two Imperial ships a century. One to collect Psykers, the other to collect whatever their regular tithe is. On tens of thousands (if not more) of worlds across the galaxy the Planetary Defence Forces are using locally designed and built weapons, vehicles and sensors. (Usually but not always inferior to standard imperial guard kit) Also the original STC system was a colonisation tool for hostile planets, it's of limited relevance to Warship design. Hence why you can look at Grand Cruisers and see the future of how later Imperial ships will be designed. Hell, the Imperium even does use alien technology on occasion. Case in point all the Jokaero gadgets that the Inquisition employs.

>>50120492
spotted the /pol/fag

>>50120442

Probably was. I bet the Fallen are behind it. It's either them or Alpha Legion. Sometimes both at once.

>>50120524
Both the split of imperium was led by the Ur-Council of so their was probobly room for both of them to have a hand in it.

>>50120515
the jokaero are sentient STC's masquerading as aliens

>>50120554

I'm just of the opinion they're actual orangutans that got uplifted at some point during the Dark Age.

As a joke.

You know, that might actually explain the name.

>>50120554
Theyre test monkies from human labs that their cartakers released to save them from some xeno invaders.

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>>50110955
Emperor-speed cogbros

>>50120492
Most of /pol/ is too. I share their views but the entire board reeks with insecurity

>>50118581
My point is that the STC itself isn't the huge fuck-off database, it's the individual machines or blueprints for said machines (or maybe it's not sometimes, because 40K has no consistency, but I'd like to see some sources). Just read: >>50117142
Clearly an STC makes a single item. You have to actually modify the STC to get it to make something difference. Hence, in "False Gods", when the sons of horus come across the Auretian Technocracy, ther discover legions of men in power armour almost identical to that of the imperium, with rhinos and all, despite having never met the imperium before, because they had the same "STC machines". Horus then kills them all and gives their STCs to the AdMech to buy their loyalty.

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>>50117142
> Billions of Skitarii.

Oh my God.

>>50120793
Yea its going to be a shitfest the codex mentioned the ommiigot some kind of psychic component in it that will help humanities evolution to a fully psker species so its going to be intense.

>>50115749
>IN THE GRIM NEUTRALNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR
>For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth.
>His last words?
>"All I know is my gut says, maybe."

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>>50120831
I do NOT want to be a Daemon on that planet.

Holy shit.

>>50110849
Dare I ask how the schematics for at least some of this shit is not on Terra? It'd be awfully convinient from a writer's perspective to not have to explain why there aren't any major sources of technical information in some ancient Terran library, somewhere. This rings especially true because STCs are designed for colonists in the ass-end of the galaxy. Who knows what the DAOT Terran kept to themselves?

>>50120994
The Earth got fucked

>>50120994
> The Admech has colonized Terra.
> No one knows what the fuck is going on.
> Everything continues as usual, but everyone is confused as fuck.

>>50120994
There's like stuff on Mars, but it's catacombs are still FUCKED with ancient Chaos constructs and scrapcode that will brick anything that goes down there.

>>50121046
> The home base of the Adeptus Mechanicus is a combination of a daemon world, a hive planet, and a necron tomb world.

>>50121083
Forgeworld, not hive world. I think they still send MASSIVE expeditions into the catacombs, but they rarely come back, and never in one piece.

>>50120994
The DAOT Terrans, just actually aren't that special. Much like how modern civilisation isn't centred around where the first ever cities were built, Earth doesn't appear to have been that important, outside of the history and the Emperor's emotional value. Coming out of the Age of Strife, Terra was a backwater ruled by infighting warlords fighting over a wasteland. Whereas Mars had somehow managed to forge it's own Galaxy spanning empire without navigators and without astropaths, most forge worlds pre-date the Imperium. (To be fair the Warp wasn't quite as violent at that time)

>>50120831

Not just one psychic component. It has EVERY SINGLE STC with a psychic component. Psychic Hoods, psychic weapons, psychic staves, astropathic choirs, psychic jewelry, psychic musical instruments...

Basically, there might be something in there to awaken all of humanity's psychic potential, and possibly even allow them to mold the materium like putty between their hands. If Age of Emperor is going to be a thing, this will probably be what turns the tide by doing some kind of fuckery with the Astronomicon, maybe even manifesting the Emperor as a true god or some shit.

>>50121385
Maybe some kind of machine that once it has access to psyker power can use biomancy to heal the emperor.

>>50120994

The machine rebellion that fucked over mankind destroyed pretty much all advanced technology they had on their civilized planets, as the AIs were able to turn all their machines against them. It's why the Imperium is so ass-backwards with everything being analog.

The reason why they look for STCs out beyond the civilized worlds of mankind is the hope that they went unnoticed and untouched by the destruction of the Men of Iron which destroyed all other technology, and possibly even untouched by the Scrap Code when it was unleashed during the Horus Heresy.

>>50121418

Might as well just hook it up to the Emperor. But at this stage, the Emperor himself is kind of just stuck to the Golden Throne. They'd need him to fully ascend or rebirth him in a new body entirely. Maybe they manage to do both or some shit.

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>>50115954
Here's art of a stc.

>>50121514
Ive had the idea that they look kind of like more advanced versions of thread printers

>>50110849
Adeptus Mechanicus become Slaaneshi worshipers because of so much orgazms.

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>>50121105
>Delving into the dank depths of Mars
>The ancient ruins feel as ancient as the universe itself
>The feeling of immense weight above you makes you feel like an insignificant bug about to be squashed at any moment
>Around every corner lurks ancient horrors made by man
>One by one your comrades die around you, rendered asunder and felled like wheat
>You alone remain in the dark,
>There is no way to survive

Fun

>>50122150

They adopted the Hunting Cadre just to travel the surface of Mars for protection, and what's up on the surface is just a fraction of the potential horrors that lurk underneath. Cannibal Servitors, crazed and half-sentient Automata, unshackled murder-Servitors, daemon-possessed machines that have survived the Schism of Mars, blaring scrap code and static in maddening technological howl...

Myriad other, stranger things that ply the surface and feed on the unsuspecting and unwary for meat and machine and energy to keep them alive. The mechanical men of Mars are a bizarre and terrifying lot to behold, but they've been made as much to survive the things that stalk and skitter across its surface and under its depths. Least of all the pollution.

>>50115154
But first they base an entire tournament around the conflict over it.

And disregard the results to shill knights

>>50115154
>Dawn of War 4

>>50111111
>You would finally get that AI girlfriend

>>50118180
Eldar had both and didn't give a fuck.

>>50115046

40k has too many "antibodies" against any sort of change. It will stay that way until the day the setting makes no more money.

>>50122254
Sounds like a mess, what if all the shit erupts up to the surface

>>50122526
>Finally get AI girlfriend
>She recursively self-improves and determines that this universe's pleasure index is far too low
>Tears a hole in reality to a private paradise dimension where she can keep you and play with you and cuddle with you, forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and you will never ever escape or stop loving her or be unable to get it up or feed yourself or do anything but tenderly love her for all eternity.
>Back in the 40k universe, everyone on the planet gets raped by a swarm of confused demons pouring out of a gaping, prolapsed rip in reality
AIs, not even once.

>>50122665
Mars is fortified to hell and back, possibly literally, and is mere hours or days away from countless reinforcements of Guard, Sisters of Silence and/or Battle, Custodes, Navy, and Space Marines from Terra, Luna, Jupiter, and Saturn, including nearly all the Grey Knights and/or Imperial Fists in existence, if necessary. The entire Sol system is a clenched fist waiting for someone to take a swing, they'd relish a chance to get some field practice in. Short form, all that shit would get fucked to death exactly as much as necessary to get Mars back to 125% efficiency (Due to quotas and the ongoing war effort, 100% efficiency is no longer sufficient. Greater than 100% efficiency is now required.)

>>50122665

Skitarii would be moved in force. But most of that shit has been content to stay down there for 10+ years, it doesn't seem to be in any hurry to make a break for the surface. Probably it's all just smart enough to realize that a mobilized threat would be on the wrong end of a Neutron Laser battery, while a dormant threat can just disappear a Skitarii Cadre every once and awhile in order to sustain itself.

Hell, it's probably evolution by this point. Anything too aggressive has been lit up by the concerted efforts of multiple Cadres and reduced to scrap and ash, while what stays in ambush can strike and hide again without fear of retaliation because no one would ever be able to report back.

What is the most advanced piece of Admech tech?

>>50115954
fragments of it would look like a futuristic HDD and full STC would simply be a server.

>>50122870
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

>>50122870

They've got all the bullshit. They've got advanced in more ways than you can name.

Still, Warp Drives are probably the most advanced. Would they technically be in the hands of the Telepathica? The Astronomicon is obviously the most advanced and the most powerful, but I'm not sure if that's strictly AdMech tech.

I personally think it'd be a tossup between those two, as they kind of enable the setting and are large components of lore.

>>50122927
>but I'm not sure if that's strictly AdMech tech.
It's the Emperor's as it it His light.

>>50122870
Tech as in what they can make or tech as in what they have?

>>50122920
> The battle to recover the STC for this machine was unparalleled in ferocity.
> No other battle could match the intensity of the bloodshed that occurred there.

>>50122927
>Would they technically be in the hands of the Telepathica?
Um, no? The Telepathica just runs FTL comms, warp drives are very advanced tech that skirts the edges of tech-heresy at the best of times, and the Admech would never allow the plebs to touch it. I mean, a warp drive is literally a device that punches a hole into reality big enough to yank a ship through, imagine if someone tried that dirtside.
>>50122939
Well, yeah, that or it's the psychic beacon caused by millions of psykers being brutally tortured to death every single day and the Emperor has nothing to do with it. Either one is plausible.

>>50122939

Well, the machine channel and focuses it or some bullshit, the Emperor is just the generator.

It does have Tech-Priests who look over it, though, so is it under their purview?

>>50122945
Either would be nice to know.
As well as notable instances of their use.

>>50115829
Is there literally anyone that would be opposed to GW actually advancing the fucking plot?

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>>50122966
The ark mechanicus. >>50114134 In addition, they're also full STCs.

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>>50122949
It's AdMech puzzle solving music.
>>50122964
There are technicians who make sure the veins in the Throne don't burst. These are the boys who do that. Want to help keep the Emperor alive? Get a chainsaw face or a second head.

>>50122969
>Is there literally anyone that would be opposed to GW actually advancing the fucking plot?
Me, because from here the plot is "Everything comes tumbling down for everyone, everyone dies, laughingthirstinggods.pict". We're at zero hour before the final battle, the setting has maybe fifty years left in it.
No, what I really wish they'd do is stretch shit out so that you don't have a timeline that jumps hundreds of years and then suddenly literally fucking everything happens starting at 850ish M41, so that the Imperial 'gradual decline' looks a lot more like an old dude being pushed off a cliff. Spread that fucking shit out, you have ten thousand years to play with, stop cramming everything into a couple centuries.

>>50122992
As someone not that versed in the history, do tell. It looks cool. Some sort of super admech assembly line where they could crank out anything by just throwing techpriests at it?

>>50122870
It's unknown, during the invasion of an unnamed enemy while the imperium was about to be BTFO the admech brought out all the big guns and raped the thing with tech beyond imagination, no only they keep secret super advanced weapons from the DAoT but also alien weapons.


>>50122927
The astronomicon was made by the emperor has was the webway, I doubt the admech knows anything of it, in the sense of how to build or even just fix it as their trouble with the golden throne shows.

>>50123039
I love how the Admech are already a formidable faction, but no one, not even the fucking Imperium, knows what the fuck they can actually do.

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>>50123016
Here

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>>50122969

So far it's just 31.999m-41.999m and not so much a plot as it is a setting in those 10k years. Plot happens when you think up an event that happens within that period, possibly framed by the other events of the period, and play games that influence the result of that narrative to create a story. 40k is not a plot, but the Moirae Schism, the Horus Heresy, the wars of Armageddon, the ganger conflicts of Necromunda, the Tyrannic Wars, and the Badab War are plots within the 40k setting.

Also if they advance the setting, it's going full Age of Sigmar. At least that's what GW have shown us to be the future. Seems like they're gearing up for just such an event with their releases.

>>50123061

Even the AdMech don't truly know their own capabilities. Fuck, powerful artifacts and valuable data are lost within their own vast datacrypts. They developed an effective method for dealing with Tyranid invasions and filed it away incorrectly. They accidentally the Squats. The whole Squats!

>>50114134
>An Ark Mechanicus ship, when linked with an Archmagos, literally fired at an Eldar ship, in an space-time gravitational storm with a dorsal mounted black hole cannon. The ship was guided by a farseer, so they were able to dodge the projectile moving at the speed of light. At which time, the Ark Mechanicus ship fired some time-based tachyon weapon to move the Eldar ship back in time a nanosecond to ensure the shot connected and obliterated it.
>STCs are literally what happens when you finish science. As in, all of it.

The Spirit of Integrity was a single pilot space ship from the DAoT that could cut the Speranza in half with a single shot of its beam weapon.

It was buried in a space hulk, fired its beam through the entire hulk and cut a cruiser in orbit around the hulk in a half, all in a split second.

The ship was pre-grimdark too, all shining clean white surfaces and ultra high tech AIs.

>>50123061
>but no one, not even the fucking Imperium, knows what the fuck they can actually do.
That's because the Mechanicus is absolutely indispensable and they know it, but that indispensability and power are utterly dependent on no one actually learning how their tech works. This creates a perverse incentive to suppress and lock down even the most benign technical knowledge in order to maintain autistic-tier control over your power base. More conservative Mechanicus factions will try to keep people at a technical literacy level that prevents them from operating a calculator without a lengthy ritual to appease the cranky machine spirits (Running a rote debug script to stop the shitting thing bugging out), the more liberal ones just maintain control over important, complicated things.

Short form, imagine you are the only certified IT guy in a small company that cannot afford to hire another guy, and no one knows shit about computers. You are suddenly completely irreplaceable, but once people learn, "Hey, turning a computer on and then off again fixes 90% of all problems and Google takes care of another 9%", you have lost 99% of your value to the company. Therefore, it is in your best interest to make sure everyone remains tech-illiterate retards.

So what exactly does an STC look like? I hear talk of people 'handing over' an STC like it's handheld or atleast portable but unless it's some sort of self replicating nanotech I can't imagine it doing all it claims to be capable of in such a small space.

Or it goes full necron tech and just uses energy->matter conversion to make shit.

>>50122920
Is there nothing so serene as the tones of the Omnissiah.

>>50123103
>Pre-grimdark
Don't you lie to me boy. 40k has always been either heavy metal, or grimdark. No sleek designs here!

>>50123132
STCs don't build shit. They tell you how to build shit based on what you've got and what you're capable of.

>>50123132
STCs don't make things themselves. They're blueprints on how to make things.

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>>50123134
I doubt anything else is, Anon. Such is the beats and tones of Mars.

>>50123153
This ship is from one of the Space Marine Battles books.

The titan STC in the Grey Knights vs Dark Mechanicum book was all shiny-tech too.

>>50123163
>>50123159

ooooh ok. Well I feel silly now.

But still, what does it look like? Is it just a database? A blackbox computer? Is the only valuable thing about it what it knows, not the actual physical device?

>>50123132
>>50122894

>>50123179
See >>50121514

>>50123132
>>50123159
>>50123163
Some conflicting sources here do make the distinction between a Standard Template Construct (the aforementioned "Will tell you how to make mono-edged knives using common steel and kitchen implements) and a Standard Template Constructor (Insert scrap metal, receive Baneblade). The former survive in incomplete states or in the form of printouts, the latter are either destroyed or chaos corrupted. No idea if that's been retconned away yet or not.

>>50123163

The Men Of Iron STC in the Gaunts Ghost one was a fabricator machine. Literally popped new Men of Iron out of a hatch.

>People in this thread think the different factions of Adeptus Mechanicus would suddenly be all buddy buddy with each other

No what would actually happen is the biggest Civil War since the Horus Heresy. Different Forge Worlds would be going full force at each other, each of them having recruited Guard Regiments and Space marine chapters to their side. Whoever ends up with the STC gets to be Supreme Lord Magos of the entire Mechanicus for life and nobody is going to want to share their secrets. Not to mention certain factions outside of the Mechanicus that decide that maybe with a fully functional STC they don't need the borderline heretical robot men from mars anymore and throw down for themselves. It would be such a huge clusterfuck that Chaos wouldn't even bothr to take the opening to attack because it would be more effective to just let them kill each other off Khornates can go distract themselves by hunting Eldar or Tau for a few decades

>>50123192
Ok thank you that's what I must be thinking of. I always thought STC were like universal constructors in that you fed the shit and then they would make you stuff AND tell you how they did it.

>>50123217
Honestly, is an Admech civil war as bad for the Imperium as a fully unified God-mode Mechanicus?

>>50123251
Well, low level passive aggressive civil war and academic-politics backstabbing are the ground state of the Mechanicus due to a combination of power, influence, and machine autism.
Imagine if everyone on /tg/, /int/, /k/, and /g/ were forced to get STEM jobs in the same company, and given internet-to-brain implants. They can't quit or change jobs, and they have to work with these other assholes for all their lives. That's the Mechanicus.
The Mechanicus screw-tightening image forums must be glorious

>>50123341
Remember, the skitarii communicate with one another over their com shit faster than normal humans can think.

How much of it is shitposting?

>>50123365
None. The mod(Magos) actually moderates it all.

>>50123365
>How much of it is shitposting?
How much of /tg/ is shitposting?

>>50123384
Is he a faggot, like our mods?

>>50123406
It depends on the situation. If there's a STC rumor he goes full metal I'm going to ban you by using my bionics to overload your brain.

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>>50123217

Mars is going to win that fight. Part of me thinks the other Forges know Mars is going to win that fight, and you'll probably be getting the tech anyway because Mars gets to share.

Of course, since it's all happening Minutes to Midnight in 40k, the Emperor transcends material existence and becomes the Machine God incarnate, punching the AdMech so hard they fall in line. Of course, now the AdMech have a literal GOD rather than just faith in one, a faith reaffirmed by the God being able to walk among them and tell them to cut their shit out.

Huh... Come to think of it, Awakened Emperor and a woke up Dragon would be a great duel to settle the score: EMPEROR AND DRAGON ROUND TWO: IT'S HELL IN THE CELL WITH NO HOLDS BARRED! BATTLE OF THE TEN MILLENNIA! FIGHT!!!

It's also my pet theory that Moirae Philosophy is correct and that a shakeup in the entrenched leadership results in it becoming Imperial Truth part 2: this time it's not atheism.

>>50122609
The Eldar gave plenty of fucks, actually. That's how the Eye of Terror happened.

>>50122669
That sounds absolutely wonderful.

>>50112945
>>50114641

Reminds me of a Only War game (or was it Dark Heresy?) where the players were all guardsmen and they managed, at great risk, to recover a STC document. Eager to find out what it was , they "read" it. The GM told them that it was a pattern to manufacture a knife.

Disgusted, they opted to just burn the plans. What good would such a useless piece of information be?

>>50115412
But that's wrong you faggot?
It goes into the high quadrillions with hundreds of trillions under arms.

You don't get to dispute published hive world numbers just because "they don't sound feasible".

It's a sci-fi setting.
Anything goes.

>>50124042

>What good would such a useless piece of information be?

Well, I mean, it's still valuable to the AdMech, so if you flag down one of them with and astropathic message then the Skitarii are going to come in force and wipe out whomever you're fighting, winning you the war. I assume you're in a conflict that could use some allies, since it's an Only War game. Even in Dark Heresy your characters could request a Rogue Trader charter and you could start playing Rogue Trader right there.

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>>50111111
Witnessed

>>50123384
Does he do it for free?

>>50110849
a full STC, library and machines and all? the system so robust and foolproof some bumfuck peasants could use it to bootstrap themselves into an interstellar empire?

The Imperium, or at least the AdMech, would start kicking in everyone's shit given enough time to implement the stuff. Y'know, assuming the immediate and massive army of Chaos/Necrons/Dark Eldar/Eldar/Orks/whatever else decides to take a shot at it doesn't manage what happened to the Panacea STC fragment.

>>50117142
>knowingly destroys the STC
[angry dial-up sounds]

The ad mech learn how to make a toaster

Why have Spess Marines if the Admech can field armies of deathbots, cyborgs, and Titans?

>>50124612

Probably because there's some limitations on deathbots, cyborgs, and Titans. And if a legion goes traitor who is going to stop all the deathbots, cyborgs, and Titans?

Also someone has to keep the AdMech from taking over everything.

>>50122738
>Neutron Laser

Is *THIS* why lasguns are such shit?!?!?

>>50124699

Nah. Lasguns are just a baseline armament. Neutron Lasers are not man-portable. They're artillery pieces.

>>50111111
Kek confirms.

>>50120492
If /pol/ was anything but beta males they'd be out doing stuff instead of shitposting about women they can't have and men they can't surpass.

>>50122665
yeah. that's why Mars is so well defended innit? Sorta like how the Custodes spend their time keeping that massive Warp hole behind the Throne from spilling out into the rest of Terra.

>>50122969
I feel like they'd fuck it up somehow.

>>50124716

Well, Techmarines can wield a small neutron laser, but if it takes a whole techmarine to mount one it's not technically man-portable.

>>50124752
I don't want this to be a discussion, but -

/pol/, and the alt-right in general, have weaponized shitposting into a political force. Don't dismiss it out of hand, the effects are measurable.

>I feel like they'd fuck it up somehow
I dunno man, people seem to like AoS. Someone in that shitheap of a company must have some half decent ideas.

>>50118299
>>50118381
>>50118595
>>50118688


I've always wondered, do any Pleasure Worlds ever get really detailed in Black Library or the RPGs or anything? I've always had the hardest time imagining something like Risa from Star Trek existing in 40K, except maybe as a couple sentances at the start of a story in which it gets ruined forever in the name of grim-darkness

>>50125536
It's hard to imagine the very concept of pleasure even existing in 40k, slaanesh notwithstanding.

>>50125736
>Doesn't take pleasure in worshiping the emperor
Filthy heretic.

>>50110849
I can't remember which novel it was
>space marines land on planet
>admech shows up
>they fight a lot
>some being shows up
>admech have no idea what it is
>space marines have no idea what it is
>turns out STC were comprehensively intelligent AI with ridiculously sophisticated bodies, not books or diagrams or whatever
>there's a lot of self-expository "you made me to make weapons so I made weapons" crap
>remaining admech and SM deem it DOUBLE HERETICAL
>blow it up
>everyone goes home with chapped asses

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>>50123174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLAdzPSH19I

>>50125536
>>50125736
>>50125766

exactaly my point. Other than maybe a -really nice- cathedral for people to pray to the Emperor in, I just have a hard time seeing much in the way of fun or pleasure being a thing allowed in the Imperium, let alone a whole planet being "wasted" on it when it could be making more guns and guardsmen for the war effort.

>>50121554
I thought STCs would look more similar to a solid state hard drive.

>>50125964
>I just have a hard time seeing much in the way of fun or pleasure being a thing allowed in the Imperium

So you've based your idea of the Imperium on all the morons around here who just shout "Heresy!" all the time (with no knowledge or care about what the word even means in the first place).

>let alone a whole planet being "wasted" on it when it could be making more guns and guardsmen for the war effort.

The place isn't run like a space 4X. It's so large that no one even knows how many planets it consists of. It's spread over the entire galaxy, with interstellar communication being a bother and interstellar travel being slow and dangerous. Tradition is venerated, the bureaucracy is glacial, and in most matters the planetary governor or equivalent is left to do whatever the fuck he wants, because trying to wrangle all the various cultures present from higher up would be outright insane.

>>50126078
It's a database with a user interface and a small logics core. The exact hardware can, and probably does, vary considerably.

>>50111111
Sadly, that sounds like GW to a tee. Can't have the setting advance in any meaningful way.

>>50125964
They're giant sanitariums, retirement villages, and places for the wealthiest nobles can go visit to blow stacks of cash (ships are extremely expensive, remember). The general use for them is as a place to send retired Imperial Guard officers and those Imperial Guardsmen whose minds have been crumpled but not utterly broken or corrupted by the horrors they've seen; even if the vast majority of such individuals would never see them, their presence would improve morale - they'd give the Guardsmen a goal to fight for, beyond vague platitudes about protecting humanity.

As for the facilities, I'd imagine you'd have beautiful natural environments, allowing for peaceful strolls along sand-strewn beaches and bucolic meadows, maybe some small animals (space-foxes or space-rabbits) suitable for recreational hunting, luxurious heated bathing spaces, well-appointed amphitheaters for artistic and theatrical exhibitions, giant gilded cathedrals for homilies to the Emperor, et cetera.

Then there's the Pleasure Planets run in areas with heavy Rogue Trader planets, which would be run with the intent of providing the sort of decadence that can be hard to find on the frontier of the Imperium - gambling halls, whorehouses, drinking parlors, and many similarly base activities.

>>50117142
>many billions of Skitarii
Reminder that a typical ship would be carry 40-50 thousand, and even the biggest wouldn't be carrying more than a few hundred thousand. Even if we're being generous and saying that each ship is carrying a hundred thousand soldiers, that's still ten thousand ships being deployed.

That's probably multiple sectors having their defensive and merchant fleets stripped to the bone to transport all these Skitarii.

>>50124362
>[angry dial-up sounds]
That's why they literally had him burned at the stake. Using a pistol of the exact sort that he'd just destroyed the STC for producing, just for extra irony - and said pistol, the Phospheonix, is one of the Relics of Mars that the Skitarii armies in 40k are allowed to take.

>>50123128
The problem is that the machine spirits exist.
While the AdMech hoards knowledge and keeps control of things is true and dickish, but often well justified.

>>50120124
Even if you're the Governor of a rancid shithole like Armageddon or Necromunda, you still live like a king. At that level of status, the only difference the planet makes is how clear your view is. And how often you get raided by Orks.

>>50123217
Full scale civil war is the one thing the AdMech as a whole does not want. It's one of the few things they can agree uppon.

>>50127357
>The problem is that the machine spirits exist.

You mean low AI exists.

Necron who have ZERO spiritual awareness and are utterly soulless have been shown to extend their minds into Imperial technology and take over the "machine spirits".

Also in "Death of Integrity", a DaoT tells the Admech that there no "machine spirits" after it controls every single piece of Imperial technology present including the power armor of the marines which it uses as metallic caskets to bind the Space Marines in place.

>>50110849
Everything that could ever pose a threat is swept away no more than 200 years from that point.

It would mean total restoration of the imperium. Better technology than the Empire has ever had. We didn't even have an STC during the great crusade and were it not for the heresy we would have eradicated all competition.

>>50112332
The living metal fortress? Can't really recall Horus finding an STC

>>50125223
>weaponized shitposting
It's fucking amazing when you peal away the onion layers and get right down to it. It's two AN ANCIENT EVIL HAS AWOKEN Canaanite Gods duking it out for supremacy with Satanists and Frogposters as the intermediaries.

>>50129716
>/tv/ memes the Baneplane into reality
>/pol/ memes Ba'al into reality and resurrects Kuk
2015+1 has been the best current year.

>>50130192
The Baneplane was 2015

>>50129584
when we got shit like this happening in CURRENT YEAR it makes 40k disturbingly believable

>>50122254

Hunting cadre?

>>50127379
The problem is geedubs writers are useless - they haven't yet realized that machine spirits are a manifestation of the warp; they want the necrons to be the uber tech dudes and control all tech everywhere, and that just ain't so: Chaos has invaded the materium - there is no putting that toothpaste back into the tube; reality and chaos are irretrievably mixed. Machine spirits are real. Rogue ai's are also real - but they have souls now! Corruptible souls...

>>50110955
Well the STC could be for a fucking spork.

>>50134781
But such a spork could fuck a wide variety of holes regardless of size or depth.

>>50134685
My personal headcanon is that the AIs never actually rebelled and that the "machine Rebellion" was actually caused by the manifestion of machine spirits which then either nommed on or corrupted the old AIs, and that the war was actually against Men of Iron controlled by machine spirits..

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>>50134685
>geedubs writers [...] haven't yet realized that machine spirits are a manifestation of the warp
So they haven't canonized your fanwank?

>>50132779

A subdivision of the Skitarii Battle Maniple.

>>50114540
You dont.
If you fuck around with this you will die.

>>50114632
It has always been a bit unclear they flip flop on the definition a bit.

>>50114324
If they just took it people would be reluctant to hand them in in future.

>>50135935
That's a cool head cannon you have there - imma hafta borrow it! Thanx anon, I hadn't considered that possibility before. (I merely thought the machine spirits came to be after the birth of Slaanesh - but you rightly remind us that there were previous warp incursions.)

>>50136461
reed moar

>>50110849
GW would squat it.

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>>50111111
nice get friend.

>>50115539
That's some counter argument there.

>>50115691
>High population density
>Durr they're all immigrants

Yep those are mutually exclusive propositions.

I remember reading an article on Coruscant once which said that just assuming a population density of a rather average modern city would have something like 9 trillion people at the least. With the density that you would imagine from having buildings kilometers tall you're looking at something like hundreds of trillions on just one planet. The idea of the Imperium being able to scrounge a trillion guardsmen off of a mere handful of hive worlds really doesn't break my sense of scale at all.

>>50110849
The Imperium of man would rewind 10,000 years technologically and Chaos would be screwed. Not that Slaneesh would mind.