MTG: Amonkhet

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>>50077707
>"AMONKHET reveals a world of harsh beauty and incredible contrast. While withering sandstorms rip across barren and treacherous deserts, a thriving city-state worships the God-Pharaoh who protects their verdant oasis"

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>>50077738
>“The vibrant yet deadly world of Amonkhet comes to life in vivid illustrations, and we invite players and fans of fantasy art to celebrate their love of Magic: The Gathering with this beautifully detailed and comprehensive new release,” says Beth Kawasaki, Senior Editorial Director, VIZ Media. “Explore the desert oasis of this sun-drenched plane ruled by the infamous Elder Dragon, Nicol Bolas, and savor all of the strange and wondrous inhabitants of this unique world.”

>>50077707
I saw some one call this
>Space Egypt

Are the going to go for cool afro-futurists vibes a la Sun-Ra or is it not going to be that out there?

Also will there be gods?

will there be cat people? Why are cats white?

>>50077707
>Giant reptile headed thing
>Goatman
>Ibis avian
>Anubis person
Noice
I want tricolor gods, and the wedge gods to be color and its enemies, not the retarded Khan shit

>>50077738
>>50077778
We're gonna get a Nicol Bolas god card like Xenagos had one

>>50078555
I doubt it. Why would bolas give up planeswalking for limited godhood when his whole schtick is >ULTIMATE POWER

>>50078555
>+1 create up to one 7/7 blue black and red legendary god dragon avatar creature token named nicol bolas with flying

>>50079027
>-10: Sacrifice Nicol Bolas, God-Hood Ascendant and create a legendary 7/7 Avatar Dragon with flying indestrucible and when this creature deals comabt damage to a player that play sucks your dick Named Nicol bolas, Lord of NotEgypt!

Can I get a five piece bolas combo that insta wings the game?

>>50079264
>Nicol Bolas, The Forbidden One

>>50077707

>Egyptian theme and city
>But it's actually just Mayan lol

not the most original artwork out there

>>50077707
>Is that guy a statue
The one on the right, yes. The one on the left, nope.

>>50078074
>Are the going to go for cool afro-futurists vibes a la Sun-Ra
It's probably gonna be more Stargate than any actual accurate Egyptian history or mythology if that's what your asking.

>>50079511
I think we're more worried about the one in the middle.

>>50079578
I meant more like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrofuturism
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qjiQwD7VCI

>>50079386
> all pieces of nicol bolas start the game in exile
> individual cards summon different pieces

>>50079822
Also more probable than actual Egyptian anything.

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Theros: WE WUZ PHILOSOPHERS N SHIET
Kaladesh: WE WUZ POO IN LOO N SHIET
Amonkhet: literally WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET

When does this end?

>>50080694
>Still thinking that Kaladesh is based on India
>Thinking that Kaladesh was/is/will be based on India

>>50080962

Kaladesh is the most obviously based on India thing since India.

>>50082499
Kalasesh only uses India as a thin coat of paint. It could have been replaced with the aesthetics of any other culture and nothing else in the set would be affected.

>>50082499
>Kaladesh was not a top-down India-inspired plane. It was a bottom-up, artifact-focused, "feel like an inventor"–themed set with Magic's take on steampunk (or as we've been calling it, aetherpunk). We used an Indian aesthetic to help give the world a feel, much like how we used Eastern Europe while making original Ravnica. Creative (and mechanical) choices were made to prioritize the aetherpunk feel. In addition, as we were referencing something that was a living culture, as opposed to Theros that focused more on an ancient civilization, we were extra cautious not to make choices that might offend.

From MaRo himself, http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/odds-and-ends-kaladesh-part-1-2016-10-10

>>50082988

>aetherpunk

Fucks sake will these dickheads stop adding "-punk" to things.

>>50077707
Beautiful DevianTART tier art pieces

>>50082988
>we were extra cautious not to make choices that might offend.
And yet some people got offended, I hope they learned their lesson.

>>50083148
It fits the genrepunk framework, underground independents with a DIY ethic rebelling against the system, while touching on how the technology available in the setting has affected its society (the availability of Aether as a power source allowing for Kaladesh, unlike just about any plane we've seen in the Multiverse before, to experience an actual industrial age wherein technology rules everything around everyone).

>>50083176
Viz Media official wallpaper, nigger.

>>50082988
>there will never be a cowboys plane based off my American culture
>if there was white people would be a minority in it
>instead there will be an infinite parade of "p-please don't beat us, we didn't mean to offend you" planes about "interesting" settings like "What if we took steampunk and gave everyone a tan and different clothes?"
>Innistrad will probably be even worse in its inevitable 2021 return
why bother

>>50083226
The lesson is that "there's always someone that is offended", not "they didn't make the right choices", obviously

>>50084256
>Innistrad
>Best waifu plane
>Eldrazi dickering happens
>Now only 2 waifus remain
Why live

>>50083249
You have good opinions.

Also, I like the name 'aetherpunk'.

>>50084479
Nah, both are right. Kaladesh was boring as fuck because they tried to make it so inoffensive that there was no personality to it. "Tinkerer, aetherpunk" sounds cool, but I didn't get that feeling at all from the set. To me, it felt like they wanted the setting to be technologically advanced because, again, gotta make the not-Indians look like they're on the bleeding edge of civilization to dispel the claims to the contrary. The fact that he explicitly says they tried "not to offend" should be proof they were trying to emulate a specific people; if your race is original, you don't give two shits about "offending" anyone with it because you know it's just fantasy.

>>50077707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoJwMI0pBsU

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So this big croc guy is probably one of the gods right? Looks like the guy himself rather than a statue. Or maybe there are just giants with croc heads walking around in Amonkhet.

>>50085075
is he B for diversity or W for historical accuracy?

>>50085167
U because he is crocodile and crocodile live near water.

>>50085020
>if your race is original, you don't give two shits about "offending" anyone with it because you know it's just fantasy.

You'd be surprised how easily people can get worked up about anything, even if it wasn't anyone's intent to do so.

On the plus at least the Aetherborn are cool, but for some reason there's people who keep going "but they're clearly hedonistic that means they're Red-inclusive at minimum!"

>>50080286
Neat, but if they count towards decksize they will be broken in every format for being a free smaller deck. Casting them from sideboard might be neat though.

>>50085241
>On the plus at least the Aetherborn are cool, but for some reason there's people who keep going "but they're clearly hedonistic that means they're Red-inclusive at minimum!"

FFS Both Goblins and Elves, the posterboys of R and G respectively, have appeared as all 5 colors.

>>50080694
When does what end? The triggered shitposting?

>>50085020
>no personality to it
Fucking what? You mean you didn't like the personality?

>>50085075
Why would Bolas allow gods under him?

>>50085019
Blockin' flyers with all that reach

>>50085354
It's more to do with the ingrained belief that Black somehow can't have anything going on that isn't killmaim deathmurder and other assorted brutalities.

Black gets hit with the "evil color for evil people" label a lot, the Aetherborn help to go against this (while still acknowledging that shifty amoral shit is still a very core Black thing) by exploring how Black's awareness of the impermanence of life doesn't limit the color to stuff like seeking immortality and staving off death; in the Aetherborn's case, it results in a realization that with the limited time one has to live, they should take the opportunity to enjoy as much of it as possible, and to live without regrets. Even if it means being a shitlord and crashing someone else's party, but then again the Aetherborn are ok with it, sometimes you just gotta let a fellow Aetherborn have their moment before they go poof.

As much as RB is a color of debauchery and hedonism, it shouldn't hold monopoly over that because Black's self-centric philosophy should mean that Red isn't necessary for the color to want to satisfy its own happiness by making every moment energetic and without regret. Simply put, it undermines any attempt to explore Black when someone goes "nah that's not really Black, that's Black + (some other color)."

Now that doesn't prevent Aetherborn from having RB multicolor cards, there's at least one UB Aetherborn out there off the top of my head, but their philosophy of living life to the fullest should be something left to Black rather than be coopted by Red, because it fits Black's awareness of how everything that lives eventually dies.

TL/DR: it's not that Aetherborn shouldn't be multicolor so much that their "every day's a celebration, every moment precious and fleeting, make the most of what you got and don't let anyone tell you to stop" is a needed expansion of Black's monocolor philosophy.

>>50080694
When you stop applying /int/ and /pol/ memes to fucking card art. This isn't rocket science.

>>50080694

There's got to be at least one black anon in this thread.
Black anon: What are your thoughts on this "WE WUZ" meme?

>>50078545
>I want tricolor gods, and the wedge gods to be color and its enemies, not the retarded Khan shit
Listening to MaRo talking about that on his podcast, I really wish limited formats didn't exist sometimes.

That said, tricolor gods would be incredibly difficult to make happen. Alara/KTK had enough trouble trying to make their 5 respective combinations playable, and trying to force all 10 tricolor combos across 2 (not 3) sets, would be absolutely impossible. Even just doing 5 of them would be rough. Plus they'd need to reprint fetches or equivalent to make anything playable, let alone brewable.

I'm okay with 1-2 color gods again, but I really don't want them to try to fill all 15 slots like in Theros. I really love the general design of the Theros gods, and I hope devotion comes back.

>>50085944
>Plus they'd need to reprint fetches again

Good.

>>50086059
Am I the only one who hates fetches because they stall the game with all the shuffling?

>>50085944
I'd sooner expect tricolor filter lands.
No fetches until BFZ has been out of Standard for at least a year minimum.

I've heard things about how insane the mana was during Khans-BFZ standard.

>>50086059
As much as I liked it myself, it did make the barrier to entry for Standard for a lot of people. And I get that not a lot of people here care for Standard, but it's a really interesting format if you can look past the expiration date of your deck, or if you're smart/thrifty at brewing.
>>50086084
They're fine once you get used to using shortcuts.
>"I'll grab a basic forest with this Heath to cast Hierarch, and pass turn"
>search for basic forest and get them to cut during their turn
It's not technically rules-legal, but most FNM environments don't have any interaction for that. Even if they do have a stifle/surgical extraction, it doesn't really effect the shortcut.
>>50086092
>I'd sooner expect tricolor filter lands.
Allied 2-color filterlands would be a great reprint. Those are in pretty dire need of it.
>No fetches until BFZ has been out of Standard for at least a year minimum.
Why exactly? Is it just for the sake of not having duals with fetches?
>I've heard things about how insane the mana was during Khans-BFZ standard.
The mana was good, but the reason it was causing problems was Rhino. If you're going to balance a card by giving a diverse (not high) mana cost, it shouldn't be in the same standard environment as fixing that strong.

>>50086209
Mostly though, 5 color formats are kinda fucking stupid, what's the point of having colored mana in casting costs when the lands are so good that you can play 60 card goodstuff plus 15 card goodboard?

I mean the novelty of it was cool, Standard never got to experience fetch-dual manabases before and the last time mana was that good was probably back in the Lorwynmoor days of Reflecting Pool with Vivid Lands resulting in stupid shit like Cryptic/Cloudthresher/Shard of Alara's Cruel Ultimatum showing up in the same pile, but it's also kinda busted and undermines the balancing force colored mana has on casting costs.

So now that we know that fetch-dual is a bit too good in Standard, I think we should dabble more in filter land design. Or explore more avenues with nonbasics that have basic land types since they'd interact well with the typelands from Shadows over Innistrad.

>>50086092
Four color decks were amazing mang

>>50083813
>Viz Media official wallpaper, nigger.
Damn you got me there

>>50083176
I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, the composition and perspective are horrible.

>>50084256
>American
>Culture

lmao

>>50084741
>Waifu
Kill yourself.

>>50086337
What about a land (with a basic subtype) that can either tap for one color or filter for the first color's enemy colors? Something like
>Land - Forest
>When this land ETB, if you control an Island or Swamp, it ETBT
>T: Add G
>1, T: Add U or B

>>50086600
I feel the logo is too big and distracting, it prevents you from following the flow of composition.

But other than that I don't see it doing anything they'd scold you for doing in an Art 101 class.

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>>50077707
>Two suns
WHAT

>>50086757
Those are Bolas's glowing eyes of godly death and destruction.

>>50086712
The bottom is very awkward. Three different balconies don't need to be shown if two of them don't offer any information.
Doesn't follow the rule of thirds.
The eye being drawn from by the birds/river is interrupted by the floating spires
The piece is trying to tell the viewer too much about the world.
Showing a giant in the picture, and no people shown on the boat works against demonstrating depth/scale.
The left buildings/rainbow section is a hot mess.

>>50085515
If you were obsessed with being the Most Powerful Thing Ever, wouldn't YOU want to have GODS being subservient to you? Bowing to your every whim, simply because you are that far above them?

What will the pyramid themed mythic be?
What will the legendary crocodile be?
Mummys?!
man eating scarabs = black scootmob?!

>>50086757
New Phyrexia says hello

>>50077707
>>50077738
>>50077778
>bored_already.jpg

will sphinx's tutelage see a reprint in this set?

>>50077707
If this plane is bolas' crib, then why does he allow any colours other than grixis to exist in it?
Unless we're seeing fifth dawn mary sue "bring colour to the world" bullshit and ajani has to give Amonkhet a white and green sun.

>>50088503
As a sphinxfag I'm looking forward to any and all support. Actual Sphinx tribal maybe? Not even full-set support, just a tribal card or two.

>>50088571
Because Bolas ain't dumb and he's seen what Grixis looks like on its own.

You think skeleton warriors would want to worship a dragon?

What are the chances we won't see Gideon, Chandra, Liliana, Jace or Nissa in this set?

>>50086084
I can understand that actually.
> New pseudo-fetch that take a land from outside the game or create land-token.

>>50088571
Because a lack of colors tends to be due to Horrible Unnatural Things going on that have fucked up the plane irrevocably and/or the plane being artificial (and thus is, by default, an Unnatural Thing that will be fucked up irrevocably).
This place appears to be a natural place he took over as his personal tanning bed.
>>50088749
100% chance of at least one of them because GOTTA HAVE A GATEWATCH. Hopefully only one. Likely at least two. Praying it isn't the whole team AGAIN for the fourth block in a row.

>>50085225
There are 2 blue crocodiles in magic, 6 green ones, 5 black ones and one UB.

>>50077707
For a god, that croc doesn't draw too much attention. I assume it's just the local flavor of giants.

>>50089093
Creature - Crocodile Giant
(not to be confused with Giant Crocodile)

>>50089103
5G - 3/6 - Vigilance - Common

>>50088791
>100% chance of at least one of them because GOTTA HAVE A GATEWATCH.
We gotta have gatewatch IN STANDARD. That's the only actual stipulation. BFZ's time in Standard got extended, so there's no guarantee about anything. Gideon is still most likely since it's been longest since his last card. There are already three Chandras and three Nissas in standard, so very low chance of those two. Jace and Lili could see printings.
I can see them coming out with more planeswalker decks for Gideon, Jace and Lili between Aether Revolt and Amonkhet.

>Hopefully only one. Likely at least two. Praying it isn't the whole team AGAIN for the fourth block in a row.
The fuck are you talking about? The whole team hasn't been given a planeswalker card in a block since Magic Origins. It doesn't even look like Gideon and Jace are involved in the story of Kaladesh Block.

>>50085019
M-Masaka!

>>50078893
Gods can still planeswalk, from word of god Doug whatever his name is. Cards =/= exact lore power

My money is on a Gideon, Nicol
Bolas and a new (female and black) walker cards.

>>50093906
>female and black) walker cards.
nonbinary and black hint: ashiok

>>50087645
I really hope this plane is just his pleasure and holiday summer home. Like, he doesn't even rule it like a tyrant, he just goes there to chill, get fanned, laze about in the sun, then go back to work.

>>50094270
He is using the plan to train people to do his biddings. He is currently deploying Tezzeret to steal portal technology (see Rashmi) to send his servants to all kinds of planes to further do work for him.

>>50093906
My money is on Jace, Bolas, Liliana and Dack and Ashiok in Hour of Devastation.

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>>50077707

>love Egyptian myth and aesthetics
>love furries
>bored of Kaladesh

THIS IS A GIFT FROM ABOVE

>>50094711
>tfw Naya Not!Bastet cat goddess

>>50094757

I want Tarkir shards, not Alara wedges. Give me Mardu Sekhmet catfolk, please.

>Mardu Sekhmet
>Sultai Sobek
>Jeskai Thoth
>Abzan Osiris
>Temur ???

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>>50091424
I wasn't talking about card printings at all, but story appearances.
And in BfZ, SoI, and yes ALREADY in Kaladesh (there's even a card for it, though it takes place near the end of the Kaladesh story), the entire Gatewatch has ended up getting involved in the plot, storywise, even if they don't all get cards
And yes, it's been specifically stated that, at lest for the foreseeable future, all blocks will have at least one member of the Gatewatch involved in the storyline. Which, thankfully, does not necessarily mean one of the original five members of the Gatewatch, nor does it mean they HAVE to be the main characters of the block, just...present. Which means they could have Ajani join in and then next block is Ajani vs Bolas Rematch with nobody else. Or it's Some Fucks Are Doing Shit On Bolas's Plane, also Lili's killing a demon on her own. But this is WotC, they're going to have 2 people show up, find out that oh no there are Bad Things happen, then CALL THE GATEWATCH

>>50094792
Yo, Tarkir is wedges, Alara is shards. Look at the back of a Magic card and then combine the three colors. One combination makes shards, the other makes wedges.

>>50094832

I had to work the Call of Duty launch, show mercy to my retarded ass.

>>50094840
I can only imagine how horrible that must have been. You poor soul.

>>50094840
I will forgive you but only today. Tomorrow I will judge you again and look down upon you for any mistake you make on 4chan.

>>50086757
>>50087771
its plasuable that this plain is artifcal like mirrodin is... was.... new phyrexia is, with multiple suns sustaining its existence, hour of reckoning might also be about the death of the plane and those amongst the inhabitants who ascended to escape.

>>50093906
ajani has to be there, considering his grudge with bolas.

>>50094937
Really hoping they don't kill of the plane. an Egyptian themed plane looks fun. I hope the reckoning is meant for Bolas

>>50079578
>Stargate
I'd be okay with this if there was a caveat of utilitarian operators present with express orders to fuck Amonkhet up.

>>50095422

That's the Gatewatch, sadly.

>>50095431
I dunno. The Infinite Consortium could easily start up a SGC of their own.

Would be cool if Nicol Bolas has run this place since before the Mending, and has simply not told anyone he isn't omnipotent anymore.

The local gods might be able to match him these days.

>>50094961
ajani/tezz will probably be there, but them getting cards depends on whether or not they get any in aether revolt

>>50085075
Looks like some sort of temple guard the way he's just standing there on the steps, not paying attention to anybody, and nobody's paying attention to him.

I also kinda doubt they'd drop a spoiler of a god now.

>>50095732
He looks more like he's moving. Look at his feet.
Also, the staff he's holding is a bigger version of the staffs the other people are holding. So maybe Amonkhet has some of the bigger folk, too.
A god would probably be a bit more special than that, yeah. He IS pretty big, though. So there is a chance.

>>50094840
How many autists had meltdowns?

>>50095732
>the way he's just standing there on the steps
He's walking.

He's not necessarily a god, but he's definetly not a statue.

>>50077778
Are those ancient dragon titties?

>>50086705
Too complex

>>50095431
That actually sounds kind of interesting.

>Rather than same-ol' goodie-two-shoes Jacetice League, the Gatewatch goes on the attack.
>But they can't compete with Bolas, so they decide to be subversive about it.
>Jace begins researching the history of Amonkhet and Bolas's power and starts an anti-Bolas cult.
>Gideon helps train soldiers and leader for after the downfall.
>Nissa starts investigating the plane's ley-lines, and how to redirect the magic of the plane.
>Chandra begins sabotaging significant locations and artifacts.
>Ajani waits, plotting.

And Lilliana just sits back with popcorn waiting for Bolas to blow them the fuck up.

>>50078893
Theros gods are weak-ass though

>>50085075
If he is a god then he is really smalltime because people around him just act like they don't care

>>50096342
>>50088571
>>50094802
>>50094961
>ajani has to give Amonkhet a white and green sun
>white guy coming to the land of kangs to kill their non-white god and change their lives
stop right there, cis-scum

>>50097256
They seem pretty powerful, it's just that Elspeth was in the perfect condition to kill one.
>Be literally the strongest neowalker
>Have a sword/spear made to kill the Therosian gods
>Have Ajani help, when his power is make you reach your full potential
>The god has a weak point which you can exploit.

She was set up to win that fight, remove any of those from her and she'd probably lose. Which means almost everyone else would have lost too.

What if Ajani is a turncloak!!

>>50097674
Black on the inside?

>>50097296
The gods of AmonkheT may not be real gods in the sense of Theros' gods, but may act more like Bolas' high priests.

>>50085926
Fuck, I guess that's me, even if I'm a day late.

Blame the american education system. When we get a lesson on Africa, we get two lines: "Y'all negros came from Africa" and "Egypt was a huge kangdom in Africa and they weren't white."
Using JUST these two pieces of information, what other conclusion is there to draw up.
Now, if they added literally one more sentence so the full lesson is "Y'all negros came from Africa. You lived in the Kongo, the Songhai, the Bantu, and the surrounding areas. Egypt was a great kangdom in Africa but not in the surrounding areas." then at least black people saying "We wuz kangz of the Bantu" would be about as historically correct and pretty much just the black version of white people in America saying they have german ancestry.

>>50077707
Egyptian shit always looks great. I always love how colorful desert settings are because everybody goes nuts with the paint.

>>50084256
Of course there will be. Just as soon as WotC finds out that half the actual rancher cowboys were black or hispanic
Cow herding techniques out west were learned by mexican vaqueros, which got corrupted into buckaroos because southern accent.
Cowboy itself was a derogatory term referring specifically to black ranchers. It's part of the "calling a black man 'boy' has racial connotations" suite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Reeves
Found their first legend.

>>50085241
>>50085354
It's not the hedonism by itself, since Sorin was also 'hedonistic' when he showed up on Ravnica, it's that they're the loud "party" type of hedonistic that makes them feel more like a dialed down Rakdos, or even a non-bloodthirsty Innistrad vampires.
That AND they have this weird ability to sense emotions and respond in kind. That parts pretty red.

>>50097989
A spy of Bolas, he was so upset about Elspeth he turned to one of the most powerful beings in existence, and of course Bolas said "Help me and I'll help you and we'll forget everything that happened between us"

>>50095897
Is this real? Do we think this is a god? He looks Grixis or maybe Jund. If we're getting wedges I'm going to guess Sultai.

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>>50097607
Chandra Fireball'ed two Eldritch Abominations out of existance
Probably the Jacetice League could just Oath away Theros gods easly.

>>50099607
That's one of Liliana's 4, now 2, demon masters that she's hunting down to chain veil.
We met them all during her story in magic duels when it first came out like 2 years ago.

>>50099689
They look very underwhelming, even when compared to Kothoped. Griselbrand is leagues away from them. I hope they just redo them.

>>50099175
Any color can be emotional. It's more about the intent and oulook. Red throws a party because it feels like throwing a party. Black throws a party because it pleases black to do so, and because parties are a great place to make contacts and business partners.

>>50099767
True. Though my point wasn't that it was "emotional." It was that it "Senses emotions' which seems like a red thing, like if someone could "sense life and nature" you'd expect them to be green, or if they could "Sense evil" they'd be white, or if they could "sense how this complicated machine worked" they'd probably be blue.
It's a minor nitpick though. I like the aetherborn. I'm just annoyed that red's equivalent on the aether cycle is the non-sapient gremlins. It's lame.

>>50099809

I like the Gremlins. They are ugly and kinda harmless looking while at the same time being a horrible unstoppable scourge.

>>50099898

That should read "ugly cute" not just ugly. They are ugly and cute at the same time.

>>50099898
My issue wasn't the gremlins themselves, it's that each color has a sapient race that "interacts" with the aether and artifice and all red got was "oh, and then gremlins eat and break everything, lol"
Gremlins are fine, but the secondary artifact color shouldn't be all about breaking them in an artifact set.

>>50083226
The poo in loos got offended because it was an 'Indian' plane that contained very little in Indian culture. They didn't even bother to rename the angels to asuras or something.

>>50093906
They inserted a reference to Vraska recently that mentioned she walked to some untraceable plane, so she'll probably crop up here.

>>50100058
Not even "them" Just a single autist on tumblr.

>>50099935
>and all red got was "oh, and then gremlins eat and break everything, lol"
Red also got the MC Planeswalker. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the gremlins either. I hope they get enough support from Æther Revolt to be a legit tribe.

>>50100126
Chandra doesn't interact with artifacts. The gremlins only eat the artifacts.

It's like if we got another enchantment plane where every color does something for enchantments, except white, who only destroys them.

>>50099935

They seemed to split Red between Gremlins and Renegade humans. I was bummed we didn't get even one fabricate ability in Red though. Every single other color, but not Red.

>>50100199
>>50100189
This is also the plane where pyromancy is illegal. Things might get hotter when ÆR drops.

>>50099809
I think the empathic sixth sense is meant to feed into the Aetherborn's nature as short lived entities that seek to make the most of their limited lives, while also being compatible with how Black tends to assume everyone follows the same value judgments as itself. With it you allow for the Aetherborn to be able to recognize when someone is behaving inconsistently with what the Aetherborn would expect of any living being, since otherwise it can be very difficult to read a person's emotional state.

Also to be fair at least Gremlins feel like they serve a natural role in the ecosystem. The one thing that kinda peeves me about Aetherborn is that they just arbitrarily come into existence thanks to the refinement process and their existence supposedly helps to recycle Aether into a harvestable state but for all intents and purposes they just feel like they're there for the sake of being there.

>>50100313
According to the planeswalker's guide they dropped Wednesday, the aetherborn basically absorb the used aether around them, it mixes inside them, and their bodies turn back into normal aether and they die.

They're like a byproduct of refining gasoline that, upon contact with carbon monoxide from a gasonline engine, slowly turns back into gasoline.
As for "where did they come from" Well, they wouldn't have existed before that because before aether refining was at thing there wouldn't have been anything that needed to recycle it.

>>50100474
I know that they have an official place in the cycle.

It still just feels forced for some reason, I dunno how to really express it though.

>>50100734
I mean, it *is* forced, so that's probably why it feels like it is. They only exist because Wizards couldn't think of any already existing black race that would fit Kaladesh and had to come up with one to fill that particular hole.

It's nice to have a black race that's not undead, and it's nice to finally have a more positive version of the color, but Aetherborn as they are presented in Kaladesh are lackluster in several ways.

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>>50100898
Aetherborn are a pretty interesting race, they probably should have some drain Mechanic slaped to it, like BfZ vampires.
But no one liked BfZ, so whatever.

>>50100088
>They inserted a reference to Vraska recently that mentioned she walked to some untraceable plane, so she'll probably crop up here.

Yeah, current theory is that Tezzeret, under Bolas' orders, is gathering Planeswalker to oppose the Gatewatch.

On the Aetherborn R/B issue, for me the difference is that Black knows it's going to die, while Red is sure it'll love forever.

>>50102947
That actually sounds fairly interesting. A set focused on an all-out planeswalker war could be sweet as hell. Or bomb horribly.

>>50102992
That's wrong.
Red is more "Who cares" than "I'm invincible!!!"
Red and black's relationship is sort of like:
>"Live free play hard!"
"Die young?"
>"Why are you such a downer."

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>>50099684
>Phyrexia returns
>Gatewatch try to channel/fireball their way to victory
>Doesn't work because no central being controlling everything
>yfw they get curbed stomped and forced to abandon the plane

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>>50104156
>Channel fireball Norn, killing her
>Gitaxias takes over
>Unleashes recreated Negators
>mfw

>>50104156
>They just drop the Nayan suns of artifact destruction on the giant artifact plane of Mirrodin/New Phyrexia and call it a day.

>Phyrexia didn't get to spread because neither Bolas nor Tezzeret want to share the portal tech with them
>Phyrexiafags btfo.
>Laughing planeswalkers.jpg

>>50104382
>>Phyrexia didn't get to spread because neither Bolas nor Tezzeret want to share the portal tech with them
Forgetting that Karn already spread his aids to other planes
>Forgetting that Old Phyrexian worlds still exist.

>>50104423
That's not spreading, that's existing. They can't spread. Quarantine them and done.

>>50078074
Cats fall under white because of their common roles as desert or plains predators (particularly lions).

Of course, jungle cats tend to go under green.

Let Elspeth return - With her spark.... Unbound.

That's right, let her come back as a true walker. None of this neo shit.

Massive power, that grows exponetially with the amount of mana tossed into it. Total game breaking shit.

Then I'll be happy as everyone cries.

>>50077707
It might be nice to see a plane where Bolas reigns supreme with (semi)benevolent intent.

>>50104156
>out of fucking nowhere it's Urabrask telling everyone to shut the fuck up and check out this cool teleporter he made

>except it only teleports organic matter

>"but I thought you guys hated flesh? Ah fuck it I'm going back to the furnace you double faggots."

>>50085019
if 3 color planeswalkers end up being the new meme, can we get Grixis Ashiok and some backstory?

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i just like deserts, y'all

>>50107292
She might as well have already been an oldwalker. She's killed enough Phyrexians.

>>50080694
>>50085020
people will get offended by ridiculous shit and cultural degradation trough media is a thing. whether you believe it or not, and it affects more important things than tcgs.
with that said I fucking hate that everything is so fucking human now and the explicit direction that wizards took towards technology shit. I get it artífices but good O'l natural magic and pointy hat old dudes are fine too, barely clothed barbarians and sexy amazons as well. every plane feels like a city instead of a universe or even a diverse world and that sucks ass. plus people will always demonstrate biases in their art. good natured racism is a shit but laser focused development based on R&D of mainstream media is also a shit.

>>50085549
+1 kek

>>50085926
I don't care because my skin color doesn't change anything that I do, except maybe how much sun screen I apply.