Kingdom Death

Shills get out

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I'd totally buy if Monster was back in stock.

Holy shit the sheer extortion on that Halloween "treat bag"

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>>50036761
I think Poots is going to do a pre-Black Friday announcement for a second Kickstarter. I think he's trying to fund a second release. How he doesn't have the raw cash sitting around to do that on his own is beyond me. Black Friday alone from last year should have funded any future plans of his.

>>50036831
How much do you reckon it will be?

When you live in Australia you have to compensate for a lot of faff.

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Fuck, so I haven't looked at the updates for this in a while and the White box has me in tears that I didn't get it.

Going to make sure to drop some hard cash on this kickstarter round.

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>>50036871
Hard to say. If it's anything like the first run you can get it for cheap (compared to the store price) if you back it on Kickstarter when he presumably starts his second campaign. During the first campaign $85 USD was the cheapest pledge that got you the base game. Now I'm not sure if the game those backers received were the same ones you get from the store which was like $400 USD but it came with a shit ton of minis. The game is prohibitively expensive for anyone that isn't a dedicated fan.

Chances are a Wave 2 is going to do something similar but I honestly have no idea what the price points will be. Maybe it will be cheaper this time around if he casts everything in Hard Plastic as opposed to resin. The only information we have so far comes from an email he sent out in June that confirmed a second release and one from this month talking about a Kickstarter update.

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>>50036972
Welp, let's hope that if I drop $250AU I'll get a good batch of stuff.

>tfw bought 2 kd minis and they look great now that i put them together
>tfw too afraid to paint them for fear of fucking up

>>50037215

(Most) Models generally look fine unpainted imo, given them a base coat so you can hide small production faults though.

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>>50037215
I have a fucking crate full of KD:M miniatures worth probably $400 I don't have the balls to even touch. My main concern is that the singles are made of resin. I don't even know if that resin will survive a stripping if I fuck up the paint job. I'm not even convinced those resin mini's are tabletop worthy. Some of those parts just look so brittle. I wish everything came in hard plastic.

Are the models easily magnetizable?

It'd be cool if you could change sets to match on the fly.

I have no money and I must scream. I wish I had a sugardaddy. I'm having trouble just trying to get $400 for black friday.

>>50038216
The hardest things are arms and anything that attach to them, like hands and their weapons.

>>50036831
it's be real fuckin neato if he fulfilled the first kickstarter before launching another one

>tfw poorfag
>only could get the Necromancer
>probably not gonna have enough money for Black Friday or the new Kickstarter
This game is killing me

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Let's guess stretch goals, ones that will probably be put up.

>New Individual models, ~$30 per pledge
>New Sets, + ~$50 per pledge
>Base Game, ~$70-80
>Base + Expansions from previous Edition, ~$200
>Base + Expansions + "Surprise", ~$400
>Base + Expansions + "Surprise" + Actual Surprise once Poots has got a fuck ton of money, $600+

Surprise will probably be some lore friendly promo stuff included (Maybe not Nurse, but stuff like Frogdog, Griphon, Forsaker, etc.)

>>50036636
>Shill thread
>16 replies
>8 posters

Hmm.

>>50039480

Shit, and you're going to tell me the everyone in the AoS threads are legitimate fans of Warhammer and not just employees and autists?

>no Black Knight in stock
Fuck dude, I don't even play this game, but I want that model so bad. Last I checked the dang model goes for like $100 on eBay.

>>50037215
If you paint with acrylics, it's super easy to strip them and re-paint. Simple Isopropal alcohol should work for basically all brands except Tamiya primer

Though if you're new to mini painting I definitely wouldn't start with KD models.

>>50039270
Fuck, if your even close I might actually do that for $200. I really want this game but no ones willing to go in on a $400 game (plus I want the models.)

>>50039725
I'm still waiting on that and Thief and storm knight to be restocked

>>50038942
The only major items that haven't been fulfilled are Lantern Festival and the digital artbook, and the festival has been reworked a couple times.

>>50039270
$80 wouldn't even cover the costs for the game without any models and its shipping, you silly goose.

Frogdog, Griphon, and Fox were already confirmed to be for future expansions.

>>50039725
>>50040121
Resin models are only contracted for a few molds, which is why they only get 500 copies. Chances are that the Classes and Knights are going to eventually get plastic remakes, much like the witches did.

>>50040427

If he sold the game without minis, he wouldn't be in his right mind to charge over $40. Seriously.

For hard plastic models I would give or take an extra $40-60 sure.

From a consumer stand point I mean.

>>50040716
You underestimate how much paper product the game contains. It's roughly 15 lbs. without the models, and the card material isn't the cheap flimsy shit like Cards Against Humanity uses.

Shit, D&D rulebooks are 40-50 bucks, son.

>>50040716
He sold the game at Gencon without any minis for 100$ and it sold out on the first day

Assuming money is no issue, is this game worth picking up? It looks really interesting!

>>50043755
Yes it's a great game. Models are fantastic and gameplay is fun with a ton of variation from the gear system. Just don't get attached to characters.

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>>50043755
I've heard some fantastic stories about the game. If he does attempt to fund a Wave 2 I really hope Poots figured out solutions to his logistical nightmares. He wasn't ready for the sheer volume that was Wave 1 and people were still getting shipments months after release. A Wave 2 would only be worse considering support for the game has at least doubled since the original Kickstarter. So yeah, if you want to weather the shit storm with everyone else I'd highly recommend it. Watch some videos of the gameplay if you need more convincing.

>>50044145
Poots has learned a lot from the trials of the original kickstarter, to say the least.

MAKE A CARDBOARD VERSION

Shit, not everyone in the hobby is obsessed with minis. Why leave the money off the table?

>>50046907
They did
>>50042777

>>50046919
If I was at GenCon I would have knifed a guy for it. The actual game and setting is terrific, the minis are just something my game group is not into.

>>50036636
>https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/
Dark Paladin 2lewd

As for the kikestarter, I might actually chip in for the base game. I will be quite literally postponing purchase of house appliance for this, but whatever I don't need them that bad.

>>50040716
>People who will never play the game.
Bro, if you're broke as shit maybe you should worry about getting a good job instead of how much some niche toys could hypothetically cost you.

>>50040716
Board games that are less replayable and have a smaller scale cost over $40. You no nothing of the /tg/ market.

>>50042777

Nice trips, and did not know that. Bit of extortion but oh well.

>>50047833
Okay buddy.

>>50048405
>Extortion
lmao

poorfags gonna poor

>>50048767

Nope, injuredfag, gotta wait until I get my paycheck.

Enjoy your getting your lunch money from your parents while you still can before coming an adult. :^)

>>50049272

>Enjoy your getting your

Enjoy getting*

Fucking kill me.

>>50048405
What is a $40 in the same scope as KD?

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I worked a shitty job while the Kickstarter was going and I couldn't afford any of the single releases for the longest time. Landed a fantastic job last year and I just went *deep* on the Black Friday sales last year to make up for lost time.

No regrets.

>>50049272
>Thinks disability is a paycheck.
>Implying people who can afford expensive toys don't have jobs.
>Implying you're not just a broke, sad retard.
Le Maoing @ ur lyfe

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>>50049337

>Taking it this personally.

Mate, I'm ready to drop some dosh on this already, don't you worry.

Top banter.

>>50040716
Out of your mind cheap... $400 is actually a good price for this game... its literally that good...

>>50049492
>get btfo
>try to turn it around once you realize it
nah mate, nah

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>>50049555
I mean most of that price tag is the miniatures crammed that are crammed into the box. I don't think another game exists that contains that many hobby quality miniatures off the shelf.

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>>50049665
>crammed crammed
I think its time for bed

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General question in game seeing as though this is a general somewhat;

I've begun to like whips more over the paste few sessions, been a useful utility + weapon, what's the most useful armour set and SFA/FA's to focus on a whip build?

Currently using Silk Whip, Goat set but missing the legs, and using the Man Hunters lantern for affinities for whip. Has that one disorder where I can't use any edge weapons, OoD and Vengeance.

Also, Fist and Tooth fighter/tank build -- worth it or not?

>>50049910
Everyone should have fist and tooth.

Most useful armour is Rawhide.

What the fuck is this game?

I remember seeing this shit ages ago, tons and tons of hype threads. '
Lurking in these threads, I literally cannot figure out what's going on.

Is it a board game? Is it a table top rpg like shadowrun or dungeons and Dragons? Is it even in stock?

How does the game work?
One of you shills fill me in. I want in on the Kingdom Death club. I wanna buy this shit

>>50050095
It's a board game with both RPG and Civ elements where you control survivors in a bizarre and horrific land of monsters and little else. You gotta kill dem monsters to harvest their organs to make everything you need to survive.

It's also hard as fuck, hence the name.

I just finished typing out all 100 of the hunt events into a google doc because I hate flipping through the book to find them. I generously present this barebones doc to you, /tg/, please use it well.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QRkJ8vi3fmwK92ar2fUGrv7zBG1BivAGWpm8ZWqmBJU/edit?usp=sharing

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>>50050095

Most people say it's a cross between Dark Souls and Monster Hunter.

I personally think it's more XCOM + Monster Hunter with a bit of Geiger flair.

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Posting a list of Poots plans during interviews/news from Gencon for those who missed it, forgot, etc.

>Second Kickstarter will be KDM 1.4, stand alone book and cards will be available for purchase for those running 1.31 and below.

>Mega package of base and original expansions is UNLIKELY (It may still happen) due to shipping and weight.

>Lantern Festival
Scrapped and reworked due to balancing issues,
(probably not available during the kickstarter or sometime after IMHO)

>Invaders (Working Title)
Take the role of 4 veteran survivors randomly generated to invade a "pre-existing" settlement, where "You will fight against a Hero or Chieftain as the first boss of the game, killing him will have an effect on the settlement that you've taken over."

>Nightmare Ram is pretty much guaranteed first expansion after this kickstarter (Interviews saying only art assets were needed, but development may say otherwise)

>Frogdog and Gryphon will be expansions, Pariah as a new nemesis.

>Screaming God is still being worked on but is on the top of Adam's priority list.

>Sunstalker and Dragonking reprints

>>50050095
This video,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tfv7FjHDjY

If you ignore the college student like camera shy awkwardness, it covers it pretty well.

Oh finally a KD thread. Just got this game and i trying to play it with 4 normie friends. The problem is this game too hard for them and whenever they died they call me a cheater and idiot. How the fuck can i get them to read the rules and stop asking stupid questions? what is a horrible experiment
>why is this phoenix look like this? phoenix doesn't have hands
Fuck this shit yo

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>tfw australian
>40 aud for a miniature plus 26 aud for shipping
Kill me

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>>50051346

Play with people who play Warhammer or D&D and stuff like that but are really into it - like they are aware of major lore and the nitty gritty of it.

It's not those who only play family friendly board games, or those who don't like a bit of meta gaming. You can't fix a normie so you have to go looking for people interested in it.

Because it's not really a board game as such, but more of a small scale hobby.

>>50051417
I don't have any friend who into tabletop stuff except these smug stupid fuck self proclaimed "gamer"

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I'm just posting here for the only weapon you ever need. You get it early and then you harden it in poop for late game. Nothing compares.

So i seen a lot of recast stuff from chinkland like this
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Is the quality any good though?

More news from the Silent Butcher.
Deaded a Phoenix.
Lost 1 to a time spiral.
Lost 1 cause he got his face pecked off.

Debating if she gets the Timeless Ring or my Blue Savior.

Kamina (The Promo Model) is also slowly becoming insanely powerful after miraculously surviving the Taken! Spiducules event.

I may start posting their character sheets.

>>50051452
I hear they're ok. But I would just wait for the plastic witches if you missed the resin ones.

>>50051451
Glorious Zanbato.

I've been doing work with a lucky Butcher's Cleaver.
So meaty with a Frenzy Potion.

>>50036972
The game was also considerably smaller when he put up the $100 for core game pledge level.

Knowing what he does now, I'd be shocked if he set the pledge for the core game anywhere bear that. The molds are already accounted for, for the minis, so the biggest cost now is the materials cost for all the cards. As you said, it's hard to know what he'll charge. If I had to guess, I might be able to see the core game going as low as $275 for early backers, and $325-350 for basic.

So wait for the kickstarter and wait for another 2 years for the reprint?

>>50051463
It won't take that long since everything is already made.

It's your best chance to get a copy.

Is the dark paladin look good? i just ordered the wet nurse

>>50051476
>It won't take that long
So how long?

>>50051488
Within a year?

Most kickstarters that have stuff produced and half ready take 6-8 months.

>>50051488

Probably about 5-6 months after it's over and depending where you live I guess.

>>50051453

Yispls.

>>50051451
>Not Scimmy with Throwing Knives + Combo Master just to be rude.

Bato is cool, but I had a seriously good streak Scimmy.

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I just finished this. Whaddya think?

>>50051579
Yeah but can you surge during a monster flow and knock it on it's ass with throwing knives?

Out first blind playthrough had us using dual axes on a ambidextrous survivor, later on we put her in phoenix armor and the mini was hyyye. Dual wielding is still probably the coolest looking minis that you can build. Then one downside to living the Zanbato life is that it's kind of hard to get the same cool dynamic poses without it looking ridiculous.

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>>50051703

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>>50051707
The Gormskin lantern can work a miracle if need be, then you just got to town with scimmy going SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI

>>50051703
>>50051788

I dig it, looks like he ate a survivor with a belly full of some kind of ichor.

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>>50051703
I just finished mine too.

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>Thief, Archivist, Fade, Apotheosis, Black Knight
>All sold out

Fuck, Poots, please make these available.

>>50051480

Is it bad that I'd get that for the survivors and not the Nurse?

>>50052532
I mean the pinup wet nurse. I don't have enough money to buy the trick and treat bag, australian suck ;_;

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>>50052565
Right there with you man, AusFag too, having to work out a kickstarter price buffer to make sure I don't get fucked over with conversion.

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So like, what's the realistic expectation of prices for the base game and expansions?

Seeing as though there's a little disparity of information.

Did a little research and saw that Poots is claiming to have better production this time, so I might buy some of the expansions later.

>>50052936
Lots.

I expect a 100 dollar no-mini version. Maybe 150. Expansions will still be price I'm sure.

>>50053314
>I expect a 100 dollar no-mini version
For that price it won't have cardboard pieces either

>>50052936
After surviving the initial shit storm, I'm sure Poots is going to be far more prepared for the next wave. I'd expect no less than $150 as a low ball estimate which would include the cards and rulebooks. Chances are any minis that come with the basic game are just going to be the basic survivors in hard plastic at best. There's nothing indicating any plans for cardboard tokens or stand-ups but they would make the game a lot more accessible due to a lower cost so I'd be down for that.

>>50036761
Can someone please tell me what's going on in this picture?

>>50053738
Again, most of the cost comes from the 15 pounds of nice cardstock being used.

The plastic minis are sold on their own at a significant markup as an easy way to generate revenue. Removing minis from the game will not reduce the price all that much.

any chance of an art book releasing?

>>50054003
White speaker, basically cult story tellers

>>50054113
Poots mentioned it might be a reward or stretch goal in the new Kickstarter

>>50052936
With minis I doubt he'd lower the price much, I'd say lowest you'd see it would be 325-350.

>>50050095
It's a campaign style cooperative board game. The setting would make a great Blades in the Dark hack.

I don't know why someone can't just answer this question normally, but we have spazzes saying $400 for a board game without minis is worth the price because it's so good.

>>50053366
If poots produced a decent quantity at once of the non-mini parts of the game it wouldn't be an issue to meet that price.

But he's pretty famous for having a terrible head for business and letting himself get screwed by his molders let alone to printers.

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>they will never release singles
these "bundles" is jsut a fucking excuse to sell stocks that didn't sell

>>50054452
Yeah I'm pretty frustrated that the disciples weren't just released by themselves.

Not only can I not afford to get the whole kit right now, I don't want these Halloween models at all.

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So I made the family tree of my solo campaign so far and I think it's coming along nicely.

RIP Gem's snatch, Phoenix wass brutal yet fun. My special child went from being nearly retired/nonexistant to 2.

Also, Shade and Ini just had twins and I'm still unsure with name's I'd like to give them, used the Zodiac already so I'm moving onto major "ancient" historical figures now. Anyone got suggestions?

>>50054557
>solo
That sound very autism

>>50054557
Nah you should categorize them by their generation #, sex, and A-Z.

>>50043755
After a demo with Poots, the first friend immediately preordered for $250 or $300, can't remember.

After a game, another friend immediately bought a copy at $400.

It's fun.

>>50043755
I have had about 12 people play the game at some point, and all of them immediately checked the shop for it afterwards. They all complained more about it being sold out than they do about the price.

$400 is steep for a buy in, forba single game, but it has a really nice group dynamic, plays differently each time, and a single, full campaign can give you weeks of game time. Also, the quality is really solid.

If you have the spare funds, I'd say it is totally worth it.

>>50051417
You're not alone. It's not just Australia that gets murdered on shipping. USPS is awful when it needs to move something across an ocean.

On average a new KD miniature will cost me about €25, with €28 in shipping.
And that's not even counting the 21% customs charge I get on top of that.

So Australia and Europe are mostly in the same boat here.

>>50051417
my apologies, that one was meant for >>50051362

>>50055515
Holy shit that sounds terrible

>>50055827
It is, but it gives me a great excuse to buy several miniatures at a time.
The cost of shipping is pretty much flat if you're only looking at a few miniatures, up to 2 or 4 pounds I think.

Go above that and it ramps up quite steeply, but usually UPS or FedEx become an option then, which are also expensive, just not as horribly as USPS is.

The price you pay for being in the EU when you want Kingdom Death stuff really.

>>50049555
No game is worth $400 none whatsoever.

What kind of survivors should be fighting a level 2 lion?

I'm going to run a demo game with friends on a stream for extra life, and I want to run an exciting experience where the survivors aren't guaranteed to win, but have a good shot.

I'm thinking each survivor a weapon master, two random martial arts, 1 random disorder, and giving them a mix of rawhide, lion pelt and leather armors, with no area unarmored.

Does that sound about right? Its been a while since I've played.

>>50037239

How did that part of the broken dagger end up there?
Damn, I hate when you ignore stuff like this like an artist. Its like telling your audience "your to retarded to get that the dagger is broken, and now Ill have to show you!".

>>50057936
A pair of armies for warhammer can easily be 400 total, and that's for pretty small games.

>>50058086
If you're going to demo with 13+ XP survivors, you want to demo with something a bit more interesting then the lion, since most groups end up fighting a lot of lions early. Antelope isn't threatening enough, phoenix is too hard to balance around and somewhat comples, and you don't want to spoil any of the nemesis fights.

The best option would be an expansion monster. Gorm would be good since it's not a crazy complex fight. DBK, while cool, is a bit too complex for beginners to demo and not really monstery enough.

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>>50059294

Why not Butcher or Manhunter?

Both are relatively strong with some good mechanics that reflect KDM well imho.

Bit of bias since Manhunter is my favourite nemesis.

>>50036636
How do I even buy the damn game?

>>50061712

Going to have to wait till the next round of the kickstarter later this month (Black Friday), and get a fair few extras.

Or you can spend $400+ and buy it off ebay with no extras.

>>50061144
>>50059294
>and you don't want to spoil any of the nemesis fights.

>>50061880

>Spoil a nemesis fight
>Spoil a recurring event

Wot.

They won't know unless you say it.

>bought the game
>friends are all normie who only can play entry level shit like monopoly and lord of waterderp

>>50062486
>Bought the game
>Friends are all normies who only play CAH and shit.
>They LOVE KD and can't wait to play more.
Sucks to be you.

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>>50062486
>have too many friends who enjoy tabletop games
>so many in fact I have to run two parties every week to manage them
>some of them are interested in K:D and enjoy painting minis
>didn't buy the game.

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>>50062486

>Friends love to play stuff like Zombicide, BaHotH and similar kind of games
>Won't play KD because of the promo stuff being lewd pin ups
>Showed them that that's not actually in game stuff and that only 3 actually provided in game benefits (Fade, Percival and Allison).
>"But it's like hyper-sexualised violence though isn't it?"
>mfw

They aren't normies and they're into shit like 40k where there's more implied rape than Game of Thrones.

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Welp, 23 days to go.

What's on your wishlist for the Kikestarter anons?

>>50063890

Packs of expansions, like all the knights in one pledge.

>People ITT in charge of reading.
>>50063890
>>50064029
See
>>50050735

>>50037239

They don't tell you this, but all their non-plastic stuff is pretty much designed with advanced modelers in mind. Most are display only. Thankfully, they're not intended to be used in the game. I collect the pinups, and would never let my gaming group touch them - that's what the plastics are for.

>>50040716

You have no idea how much die-cut printed cardboard costs.

>>50063172
Find me one instance of 'implied rape' from one of the last three editions of 40k. I'll wait.

>>50043755

Our FLGS just finished a week-long KD:M campaign, with casual drop-ins encouraged. Most people who played it were excited to hear about the upcoming Kickstarter.

>>50049320

Best I can think of would be a "legacy" version of Dead of Winter. You could try Pandemic: Legacy, however.

>>50049665
(waiting to be accused of shilling)

RIGHT NOW, the Armor Kit Bundle is still available on the KD site for USD $125. That's every survivor in the game (minus the 4 iconics), plus sprues from 4 expansions. For those of you who love to hate Games workshop for their prices, it works out to USD $2.80 per figure. Which is Bones-level prices.

How do you handle casual drop ins? Im currently running a game with my gf (we each control 2 chars each, we also live together so its easy to arrange a game), but i will be having more friends interested to come in from time to time, although to arrange a weekly thing will be difficult. Think more like 1 or 2 guys coming in once a month.

I was thinking of rather than starting a new settlement everytime new people come down, just doing a little training session by letting them fight a tutorial lion, with our 2 veteran characters jumping in only to help when they're in trouble, and after that just continuing on with our current campaign. Perhaps they can use our old equipment that we've outgrown or something

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>>50064198
The armor kits are 100% worth buying for their customization alone. You can mix and match those for tons of other RPG's if you wanted to.

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>>50050735
On addition to this list, here are things from Poots Tumblr saying

>KDM - Nightmare Ram Expansion
Already said.

>KDM - Ringtail Fox Expansion
>KDM - Black Knight Expansion
>KDM - Gryphon Expansion
>KDM - Frogdog Expansion
>KDM - Storm Knight Expansion (how a survivor can become a hero)
Fucking Hype.

>KDM - Lantern Festival (being reworked from the ground up, might focus on towns instead of settlements)
inb4 Festival is KDM 2.0

>KDM - Custom Campaign Book (for mixing our current expansions, supported with new story events)
Neat, might get it just for art book if it doesn't add much else.

>KDM - Rust Ocean (area where Architects are from)
Sunstalker/Dragon King like expansion maybe?

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>>50064338

Extra tidbits;
>KD:Q - Kingdom Death Quest, a PVC game for mass market (gonna try distro with this!)
I think this is where the confusion with the budget game is, it's supposedly a cheaper Kingdom Death experience, but not Monster - if that makes sense.

>KD:T - Titan, a deck building game, its perspective far pulled far back to the greater entity level.
Sounds cool, I'll probably give it a miss though.

>KD:L - Labyrinth, the game that highlights Twilight Knights, White Speakers and other hero level classes.
Cool, hopefully it'll be like Bloodborne.

>KD:2D - A retro cinematic platformer, with GORGEOUS hand made sprite animation.
Not my forte, but some may like it.

>MALE PINUPS
Yispls.

>>50064348
Most of these sound shitty and uninteresting.

>>50059294
Flower knight would probably be a good fight. His low toughness and HP is made up for by the risk entailed by ganging up on him in the flower circle, and fighting him on his own turf. Also, the flower circle and the mini both look really, really pretty, so you have.

Maybe spidicules, since it replaces the antelope on the timeline. Can be fought by beginners, but doesn't add too many crazy rules. Also, the mini - while a pain to play with - is very visually impressive for a stream, not to mention the terrain, and ever-growing spiderling horde.

>>50064731

iirc you can add Spidicules later to timeline, say year 3 by following the "Updating your current campaign" section in the booklet.

>>50064858
>>50064731
Spider is cool but not super "Iconic"

I would make them fight Antelope since you never hunt it anyway because poots is a bit retarded and made the rewards SHIT.

That or Butcher, because nothing is morefun than a trip to Hack City and not being able to wound him.

Don't do Flower Knight unless you're packing bandages, he's neat but losing guys to Bleed can make new players not enjoy it.

>>50065292
This. Both on design choice and enemy choice.

Love the Screaming Goat set so much. It's just a fucking pain to make because you get 1 pelt for every 10 organs it seems.

And yeah, Bleeding is a little hardcore to be exposed to during your first game. IMHO, Iconic would be Phoenix, but that's because it's the tipping point for games I've found - either you fuck up hard, or you get some bat shit crazy strong members afterwards. Had my special child going from nearly ceasing to exist back to a child once.

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Does ambidextrous/paired and bloodpaint stack or no?

Because if it does; Cleaver has easily become my favourite weapon.

>>50066149
I will check my rulebook and find out since I have insomnia anyway.

You have to get 2 Cleavers though. I think you only get 1 from doing the butcher with a good roll.
So you'd have to do him twice.

I think.

>>50066513
Thanks and yeah, played against him in the last session and got the roll where he drops his cleaver. Won't see him until maybe LY 10 or 12 iirc.

2 of our guys died and we have cannibalism so we got the spare resources for bloodpaint; in hopes that it would stack.

>>50066561
>Blood Paint & Paired. With 2 Lion Beast Katars and Blood Paint, you would active blood paint and make a single attack at speed 4, then blood paint would activate the other Lion Beast Katar at speed 2. You cannot use the paired rule for the second Lion Beast Katar, because... "A survivor gains the benefit of a weapon's special rules only once, no matter how many copies they have." - On page 45 under Duplicate Gear. You could, however. Have two different paired weapons and blood paint. It would be an investment of 5 gear cards tho!

>>50066149
Blood paint + Ambidextrous.
>3. You attack with the first one with double speed (as above) and then you attack with the second one with it's printed attack statistics only (all special rules text is voided).

So yea, it kinda does.

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>>50066710
>>50066778

Not as broken but still strong, thanks guys - have a semi lewd.

Blump

Fought a level 2 Gorm just now.

Double Retch fucking sucks so hard. Doesn't even shred armor, just fucks you up to the point where you've broken every bone in your body.

>>50039649
There is no one in the Aos thread that is not an employee or Autistic. That game is complete dogshit.

>>50068185
Sounds lovely.

I'm debating whether my dudes should shoot for the DBK. But I have to train a new squad of hunters after some particularly brutal losses so I'll probably have to fill the years with shitty Lions.

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>>50068269
DBK is doable early if you get tumble on your carry or if you have a solid setup. Otherwise I would probably wait on it.

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Well darn.

>>50068409
I could bring my slayer of kings but I'm really starting to push my luck with her and I need to upgrade my savior.

Tough choices.

>>50068496
she does look lovely, so I bought one. I own all "generic" class models so far.
Also bought the wetnurse pin-up and the halloween pack.

>>50066149
That can be a double edged sword, though. Spitting out that many attacks is a great way to risk hitting the Trap card, losing all of them, and getting a beatdown for your trouble.

Final boss spoilers, for those that haven't played it yet: If you trigger both of Watcher's trap cards, you die instantly

I have a question about Gorment Sleeves;

It states;
> [G][G]: Guard without spending Survival

But Guard gives a Nemesis (Kings Man) +5 Toughness and is the only mention of it in the rulebook?

Is it meant to say Dodge/block?

>>50068575
I'd get it if I had the base game, can't really justify it as it is.

>>50066149
>>50068579

Your weapon speed should ideally be 1 less than the range of how deep you can look and rearrange hit location cards. Each additional attack adds stacking a flat percentile chance that the entire action is negated with a trap card effect. If you are not consistently wounding with the attacks, you will trigger additional reflex effects - many of which are simply more attacks.

In a game where RNG rewards you with small boons but punishes with death, you want to lower the RNG as much as possible.

>>50068715
I backed the game, so I'm covered on that front.
Though the Dark Paladin has nothing to do with Kingdom Death: Monster, it's a normal miniature release.
The only "game content" I got this time is the Halloween Survivors in the Halloween Pack and item that's included with the Wetnurse Pin-up.

I also have the "Role Survivors" for the Lion Knight Expansion for instance, which provide alternate models actually showing the costumes for that particular monster event.

>>50068639
Yes.

>>50068741
>>50068579
>Not gambling on the hope that you won't hit a trap with 4+ attacks.
Qui audet adipiscitur
He who dares, wins.

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>>50068741
But not all attacks are going to connect?

If you got a speed 4 weapon with +5 to hit, you'd be lucky to have more than 2 hits in total.

So you get one attack of 8 dice (with 4 hits on average) and then another 4 dice (with 2 hits on average). So 4 hits with the chance to pop trap, then 2 hits with the chance to pop trap.

From those first 4 hits in a 22 card deck, you've got a bit over 1 in 5 chance to hit the trap, and if you don't; you've got a 1 in 9 with the next 2 attacks anyway.

So with a little choppy and drunken math, if I could land 6 hits, with 1/~6 chance to hit a trap, I would take it and then bait out the trap if it wasn't hit.

That's just me though. I also wouldn't do this on my DPS, it'd probably be my off tank / Twilight drone.

Not trying to start beef or anything, just saying.

>>50036636
The setting might be interesting if it wasn't so pointless.

Why make models and backstories for characters who are literally dead and gone when the players encounter them? Why so much setting lore about things the players of the game set there will never have a chance to encounter.

And why have a 'immortal heroes' game variant when they are so up their own ass about everything being pointless and your actions always amounting to absolutely nothing?

>>50068867
You can risk it, sure. That's the thing though, it's always going to be risky. It will pay off sometimes, but it's always going to be "loose". Our playgroup has a survivor use high attack builds before, but that survivor tends to be replaced pretty frequently.

>>50052478
looks like he's wearing lipstick

>>50069025
To be fair with the alternate Dragon King start you focus less on the settlement, but more on the powers of the individual survivors, turning them into epic killing machines basically, with stronger story arcs as a result.

If you're not interested in the game because of it's Settlement before Character style, that expansion campaign may be more up your alley.

>>50069025
For the struggle.

Kingdom Death may be the only setting I'm aware of that rivals 40K in grim-darkness while still remaining coherent.

>>50054557
Pollux and Castor

>>50068496
Gods, do I wish I had hips and thighs like that.

>>50061144
Manhunter is the most fun to hunt, he's so dangerous it's thrilling.

>>50068579

Cat Eye Circlet my friend.

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>>50072572

>>50072572
Any suggestions on how to fix the awful hands on this mini?

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>>50072599

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>>50072796

>>50072572
>>50072599
absolutely fucking disgusting

and not

"real life disgusting"

just eye-fuckingly terrible

>>50072849

I take that as a compliment

>>50072572
>>50072599
That makes me feel a bit genuinely ill looking at.

My cursor is hovering the buy button for the Halloween bag, am I making a mistake here anons? I need a Kairos Fateweaver replacement and that flower witch is pretty sweet, the witches will make fine tzeralds.

>>50074435
Post your painting quality and I will advise based on that.

Because bad paintjobs on KD models are the saddest of stories, esp when the models still look rather nice when in their unpainted state.

>>50036636
Well thanks op I spent 150 on some special edition minis, might add them to my Halloween dark carnival crew for Malifaux.

What should I practice painting first before KDM, Malifaux?

It seems like a lot of people airbrush the monsters and I have no experience in that,

Survivors might be easier since I used to do stuff like Kings of War.

Does anyone know where I could find other miniatures that are the same quality and aesthetic as Kingdom death models? I was planning on running a dark fantasy game, using some Kingdom death models but there aren't enough and I also want some "traditional" style ones in the gothic/dark vein. ie Dark Souls-ish/Dragons Dogma kinda stuff. Any recommendations? I made like two threads but barely got any replies.

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>>50076872

>I was planning on running a dark fantasy game, using some Kingdom death models but there aren't enough and I also want some "traditional" style ones in the gothic/dark vein.

Aren't enough what? Models?

KDM kind of prides itself on being non-traditional so there's that as well.

Really opened question because your idea of "Traditional" might be vastly different to what everyone elses is.

>>50077543
Yes there aren't enough models.

Like traditional armor and stuff. Lots of it seems to be kind of tattered "prehistoric" esque armor, which seems appropriate since the game kinda seems to have a State of Nature feel to me.

Don't necessarily focus on the traditional aspect.I just would like a lot more models in that vein or at least quality and creativeness for Pathfinder, DnD, etc. [And maybe a homebrewed Bloodborne set game and/or a cyberpunk one]

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>>50076872

Well there is the dark souls board game coming out,

>>50077800
That's what someone else said :p And I was planning on using those anyways. But they have yet to announce a release date and I think it'll be for some time.

>>50076872
>>50077699
You can buy a collection of every armor set released, and each set has parts to build 4 minis.

That's a lot of dudes there.

>>50049555
It's a bunch of trashy lewd minis who would even buy tots garbage?

>>50070724
No you don't.

Would this still be a good thing to pick up even if you're not into painting models and the like?

I do have a group who is into shit like this, but none would want to paint our really do anything at all with the models.

>>50078337
I mean, you could just learn yourself so you don't look retarded but eh.

>>50078583
If you don't like the models it's probably not super worth it.
I would wait for the supposed no-mini edition.

>>50078543
Don't tell me what kind of figure I want for myself, you twink. One day I'll have F-cup breasts and thighs wider than my shoulders and there's nothing you can do about it. I know how to custom tailor my own clothes if needed anyway.

>>50078337
2/10 I reply telling you that the game doesn't have nearly the lewd shit featured in the pinup works.

>>50078583
Assembling models is easy, and the game comes with a few mono-pose models you can use for survivors besides the super-modular armor kit sets.

They look plenty good unpainted, too.

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>>50079230
To be fair, for it to look good "unpainted" you'd still need to gap fill and spray a basecoat.

But for the most part, you're correct.

>>50078337
Pic related.

>>50075514
Looks sick man, what did you use for the skin tone?

>>50077939
considering they can't get their heads out of their asses and do the actual fucking page where you input what you actually paid for, it's gonna be a fucking while

nowhere near on KD:M's scale mind you

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When Poots says the next round will go up Black Friday, does he mean midnight of the Thursday or sometime during that Friday?

Don't want to get cucked out of a good deal if I can.

Because if he does reprints of pic related or Fade, they'll be gone first I guarantee.

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>>50078337
Seriously? I know this is bait but come on.

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>>50064348
>>50064338
>>50050735

Did Poots ever say anything about integrating the previous expansions and the base into one bundle/pledge previously or during the previous kickstarter?

>>50081416
Learn to read.


Third line of >>50050735

I'll shill on the game.

On Beasts of War the first video is up that I recorded with them, and this will be an ongoing series, with more videos out during the KS and more to be recorded next year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncW3pZFA_nM

>>50081868
Are you the blond guy?

What the fuck is up with your hair.

>BoW
Listening to these guys is tedious as fuck if they don't have the high energy Scottish guy.

>>50081916
Dude his hair is awesome, we wish we had lift like that.
>>50081868
Awesome video, can't wait to see more of them.

>>50081916
The bald guy seems like he's a really nice dude and he's alright, but I wish the other guy would have shut up about the damn loincloths, it wasn't funny the first time.

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>>50081868

This is the epitome of /tg/ playgroups,

>Guy trying to make jokes but constantly failing to connect, talking over others and being otherwise unhelpful.
>Guy who's played the game before and kind of takes it a little too seriously - not a bad thing, oddly attractive.
>Guy who is interested in the game and quietly lurks, talks when has something relevant to talk about, learns from the 2nd guy and rarely asks tedious questions.

Have nothing against Warren, just his Kings of War Month intro was fucking cringe-worthy and it was at the front end of at least 20 of their videos, this is certainly an improvement but still not great.

>>50082195
Couldn't agree with this more.

>>50082306
The seriousness on my part loosens up after this video once everyone is on board with the core rules.

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>>50082448
It's all good man, a little bit of seriousness is needed for a cooperative game so I'm not judging you too harshly ;)

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Not yet, there's still some blood in this one.

Are bone darts a meme? Seems like every first timer makes them because of "Range" despite the fact that you can just hunt a level 1 Lion year 2 and make a Bow.

Why would you make anything but the Axe?

>>50083593
Because most people hunt Gorm Year 2 for Gaxe/Rib Blade or the set itself.

Bow is also cumbersome; not moving to attack can hurt if you managed to get fucked over for some reason.

>>50083647
>Wanting early Gorm Climate
But why.

>>50083666
BEGONE SATAN.

That's also just an example, I personally don't find Gorm climate too bad because I never got the "Lose an innovation or lose all your shit" roll.

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Can someone do me a massive favour and give me the dimensions of the Settlement/Hunt board and the Settlement Location cards?

Might make an overlay for my gaming table for the Settlement so we can have it side by side to the hunt and showdown boards.

>>50083688
I wonder in what order most people do hunts.

I usually do year 1-2 Lion, Year 3 Spider or something different so my players get a new look.

Year 4 Butcher, 5 Manhunter..

>>50083993
I only have the base game so a ton of lions until Phoenix

>>50084050
You never do Antelope?

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>>50083993

>LY 5 Manhunter
Muh negro. Only time I don't feel sad when one of my guys dies is to him.

I personally do Tutorial -> Gorm -> Goat -> Spiders-> Butcher -> Brohunter.

Gotta get the Silk set and Scimmy.

>>50084068
A few times, my group never felt like we got enough out of antelope compared to the others. Then again we're not experts on the game or anything so we could be wrong.

>>50084179
Do you mean you got enough materials to make the set or?

Because that set, and bloodpaint, are super useful and can last a good portion of the game - the head and body gear alone are fantastic, minus their odd affinity placement outside of the set.

>>50074724
Not great desu, just got back into the hobby a month ago, building a CSM and daemons army. I've a got an airbrush and every type of brush. I have no intention of touching these bitches until I'm comfortable painting again.

>>50084078
>Muh negro. Only time I don't feel sad when one of my guys dies is to him.
Seriously. I find him to be absolutely brutal. A real challenge for early game survivors. I really like how he interrupts your settlement building to challenge you as well. Very thematic, very cool, I was iffy about buying him too because I felt he didn't really fit into KD but I'm so happy that I did.

The early game silk is pretty amazing, I must say.

>>50084179
I rarely hunt it myself, I don't really like it as much as the other monsters.
But as this guy points out (>>50084211), he does give you some nifty stuff. Maybe I'll do a one player and see how it goes.

>>50065579
>>50065292
>>50064731
>>50059294
>>50061144
Demo guy here. I think I'm going to go with butcher in the end. TO me, it's the iconic point of the game. The first thing that hunts YOU, the survivors. I have a lot of experience with it, have a good idea whats 'par' for gear (i want this to be fun and cinematic. all the better if its gory), and can narrate him for extra entertainment.

Plus, the butcher, next to the forsaker, are my absolute favorite parts of KD:M and universe.

It'll be on a charity stream this weekend. not trying to shill out, btu if anyones interested, I can post the link. It's gunna be myself and 3 friends, with rotating randoms, playing board games for extra life. Shit's gunna be boring, but its for charity so I feel no shame.

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>>50086911

Good choice.

>Shit's gunna be boring, but its for charity so I feel no shame.
It shouldn't be boring, if you make it as interesting as you say they'll surely want to continue - and tbqh, I'd rather watch 12 hours of KDM than board games others have played before (that are also part of the well known catalogue or the must plays).

Catan is so dead for me I can't even express it through words. I loved that game so much, yet I got burnt hardcore.

Personally a Manhunter and Fade lover myself :P

>>50064144
>Last 3 editions
Nah, nigga. Don't cheap your way out. All or nothing.

>>50087395
It's going to be a mix of games, probably roughly every hour. Galaxy truckers and KD:M are coming from my pool. We're just going to run a butcher fight and, if we need a filler or they want more, i'd like to have a white lion lv 2 run ready to show them how different monsters could be, but realistically we are looking at 1 hour of KD:M and 23* hours of other games.

Really, it's 25 hours total because daylights savings.

for butcher I'm thinking a smattering of leather and hide armor, basic gear (a sword, a bow, axe and shield and spear prolly) and each survivor with xp of five or six.

>>50089533
Set up a psudo settlement phase before the fight, then.

Make a fake event where everyone rolls for their ages, courage, and wisdom charts. Let them pick between 0-3 insanity to start with.

Start with the encourage and dash endevours in addition to the starting ones, and a modified endevour deck of six pretty cool choices, shuffle, the have the group draw three and together pick one.

Then set up a simplied build step, nonspoiler mode(info is limited to what's on the location card), picking up to 8 gear cards from whatever locations you provide without cost, max of two weapons(not counting arrows as weapon)

This'll give em some of the feeling of discovery without the typical long-windedness that the settlement phase can become.

>>50084179
The trick is to hunt it with a critbot survivor when you need a large crop of generic monster bits. You will come back with all sorts of resources from your criticals, and you will have a nice stock for making leather, innovating, or using for various crafting needs.

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No rest yet KDM, still quite a ways to go.

>>50090246
This. Hunting an antelope early can save you the hassle of having to grind Organs in future hunts for innovations or gear if you get averagely lucky.

>>50089533
5 or 6 XP is really high for that early on... most characters at the point would be 4xp or less because they've on hunted 4 things up until that point.

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I'm a simple man, all I want is a Thief reprint.

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>>50091630
Same, I'm glad I managed to get Necromancer though

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>>50092006

A little bit jealous...

I only got into KDM recently and was bummed that a lot of the good stuff, albeit obvious - was gone by the time I got into it.

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>>50092186
Set aside an arm and a legs worth of cash for Black Friday. He never tells what he's putting up but its always a shit load of reruns. Even after missing over a years worth of releases because of a shit job I managed to snag most of what I missed on Black Friday. Spent more than I'm proud of, but I have no regrets. Mini's I bought haven't been seen in the shop since.

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Is the dark paladin worth it?

>>50093950

What do you want to get out of it?

I personally would use it for a Beast Savior if we had Accept Darkness and Cannibalism.

>>50079497
I have the basic flesh gw colours, i always just find a good base by mixing then and olive or pink then from ther just shade up by adding off white or higher ratios of the lighter colours from the base. Im sorry i cant exactly remeber what colours ove used after it finished should probs write them down :/

>>50093950
I don't think any of the singles are really 'worth it'. Especially since Poots seems to release the more popular ones in plastic anyway.

I have a shit ton of singles (10+), and I really like them but I would hardly call them worth the money, I only have them because I think they're spicy.

>>50094015
Like the quality and detail

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>>50094183
The singles are purely for collectors. They come in nice boxes with art cards and an authenticity certificate of sorts. They're purely 'worth it' from a collectors standpoint.

Its just /tg/'s version of buyfagging.

>>50094273
>Its just /tg/'s version of buyfagging.
What the fuck does that even mean.

I don't use 4chan lingo.

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>>50094388
Its an /a/ thing. Some people spend an average of ~$150 for collectible PVC figures of characters they like or other physical merchandise from their favorite series. Not a derogatory term, just the one the internet decided to use.

>>50094513
Oh weird. I guess that would apply.

>>50094388

>4chan Lingo

Ya, mah boy. We talk Jive and have rad nomenclatures.

>>50094777
Don't try to be clever.

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>>50094905
Not that guy but you need to cool off, learn to take a joke.

>>50094167
All good man, really makes the skin pop, I use Vallejo personally so it shouldn't be too difficult to find an equivalent tone.

>>50095106
You need to learn what a good joke is.

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How are the Knights?

Like, every other expansion except for Dragon King are on my "to get" list, but the Knights kind of seem out of place (I get the lore behind them, just head cannon gets in the way too much).

But in terms of playing against, the rewards of defeating them, the flat additions to the game; how do they hold up?

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>play kingdom death with my room mates because they want to know how to play it
>why not
>whenever one of them died or lost anything they call me cheater and idiot
>try to show them the rules in the book
>NOOOOO IT's NOT FAIR WE WANT TO KILLING EVERYTHING AND NEVER DIE
>eating spaghetti, doritos and other shit know while playing my 400$ game and touching my precious dices, miniatures and cards

>>50095583
Get new friends. But seriously though, if they aren't willing to lose a character that they got overly attached to they need a reality check or KDM isn't for them.

Also, Update due tomorrow guys - get a little excited.

>>50095801
>got overly attached
They're normalfags, they never attached to anything, they just don't want to see me destroy their characters because they think they're so good as the game despite never play anything slightly complicated.

>>50095583
>>50095835
>play KD or any tabletop with normies
Ughh

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>>50095835

Maybe go for yourself when you play the monster?

Nothing else is literally your fault - unless you roll for them and draw HL/AI.

See >>50095851

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>>50095865
>Nothing else is literally your fault
Literally nothing else is your fault.

Time for coffee.

Honestly a group of 2-3 people playing the game is best in my experience. After a certain point the additional people just sit around more than anything.

>>50095851
>>50095865
Their attitude just make me so annoyed. Fuckers can't even kill the tutorial boss in DS and they called themselves gamer and board game pro.

>>50095879

Do they not fit any part of the party roles?

Because more often than not I found when we individualised people by their roles they had a lot more fun.

>>50095900
Dark Souls I feel as a Little more stacked against you, but still - Baby Lion shouldn't be difficult to kill. Toss 2 stones and you're a third the way done. How is that hard?

>>50095923
>How is that hard?
Because im the game master and monster controller

>>50095948
Uhhhhhhhh. What.

You might want to read the rules thoroughly and not play the "Storyteller" format.

Starting to see why your friends may be upset.

>>50095971
>not play the "Storyteller" format
Why not?

>>50095923
Party meta always contained a cateye and rawhide activation each turn, which meant that those 2 characters essentially merged into a single "support" roll that really only augmented the overall party's interaction with the monster rather than do anything directly themselves (aka no real dice rolling required).

>>50095948
I've also never really had a solid experience with the "DM" monster controller, since we've always approached it in collaborative group effort to "solve" out the encounter. Personally I feel that one of the greatest thing about KD is the lack of a position like that.

>>50095506
The Knights are some of the best expansions, with the DBK almost always in top3 for someone's list of best expansions.

Sorry that you have a shitty headcanon, but the lore the knights add is plenty important.

>>50095978
Because for beginners that's fucked.

Hell, I did it with mates who played for months and when it came to the Spidicules on the second year, we got fucked.

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I was about to pull the trigger on a 1400$US set off of eBay. You guys made me not want to get it due to the bickering.

For what ever the reason this game seems incredibly polarizing.

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>>50095999

Welcome friend!

Kickstarter is actually coming up again soon so you might want to hold off on that purchase if you can.

>>50095999
>1400$US
What the fuck dude?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kingdom-Death-Monster-And-Survivor-Box-/262703922056?hash=item3d2a5fbb88:g:4r4AAOSwo4pYG9vh
>1000$ just for a core game
The hell?

>>50095999
Funnily enough, it's actually all the anti-shills that's causing most of the shit stirring it seems, so if you want to get it - go right ahead.

>>50096010
>Misreading

Fuck.
Seriously need that coffee now.

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>>50095506
>except for dragon king
>not wanting to play dragon settlement mode

>>50095506
Flower Knight is a core farm monster in my opinion, under Lion and on the same level as Gorm. The mechanics of the fight requires low strength and the damage output is easily controllable for lower powered groups. The hunt mechanics also contains a very easy way to farm understanding.

Virus Flower also has the potential to do some crazy things. Plus the mini looks great. A+ Violin.

How long does it take for shipping from US to Aus?

>>50096060

There should be an Australia warehouse anon, but we should still have a month or two buffer when it comes to release time.

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>>50096048

Elaborate?

I'm not getting it because of the price tag more than anything else.

There's no way the game now can have a higher cost than the initial run, so I am a big hesitant to get it knowing I'm supporting the creator's enormous mark-up, which I fully expect to have some more "production delays" pushing it back or upping the cost too.

It feels like poots is in an enviable position where the game is prestige and limited and the fans who already have it feel good about that, so they're happy to suck cock for more despite it clearly being a disservice to customers.

>>50096071
>no trick or treat bag in aus warehouse
>no armor kit bundle in aus warehouse
>no pinup nurse in aus warehouse
>no dark paladin in aus warehouse
Yeah

>>50096011
It was about a month ago or so, it had everything except the dragon I think. Or maybe it was everything. At the time the pricing was the fair eBay value.

I agree, what the fuck was I thinking... But the sum of the parts was worth way more than the whole. Scalpers man, it's a plague, but also the fans with soooooo much expendable cash are not helping either...

>>50096084

Oh, yeah. About a month or two depending if you go through Aus-fucking-incompetent-post.

>>50096081
it's just a variant settlement mode where you're under the patronage of the dragon.

I think sunstalker also has one? But the dragon one is cooler because it's a radioactive dragon that gives you super powers.

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I buy a used one for like 300$, everything is still great except the phoenix, oh well.

>>50096115
Should told the owner to finish his fucking shitpile

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>>50096115

Fuck, I feel for you man - sucks when the semi-mascot monster has a poor paint job. That being said it seems like you could just colour match and correct the mistakes / paint the rest.

>>50096110
Sunstalker does yeah, I'll probably pick it up at a later date.

>>50096083
If Poots is Benevolent he won't change the pricing on the current kickstarter.
But if he does bump the price, it should be lower than Store ones because Black Friday sales and what not.

>>50095992
>>50096059

Thanks though guys, I'll pick them up when I get the chance. :)

>>50095978
Because it's not as fun and you've fucking invented this problem for yourself.

>>50095999
Wait till the black friday sale first, dumbass.

>>50096150
Dragon is the other expansion besides DBK that's in top3 lists all the time. You get two enemies to fight, alternate campaign, one of the coolest armor sets, AND DID WE MENTION THE GIANT FUCKING KICKASS NUKE DRAGON?

>>50096158
How much survival point you can get? my survivors got a bunch of survival and insanity it make the lion and goat feel kind of easy

>>50096205
Survival has a cap based on what you've unlocked.

Typically when I see a comment like this, after questioning it turns out that group wasn't playing by the rules properly, such as using survival actions each more than once per turn, gaining insanity instead of taking brain damage, not rolling their severe injuries, equipping multiple monster grease, or what have you.

You'll have to give far more info about what's going on in your game for anyone to judge why you feel like you're having an wasy time.

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>>50096205
>>50095978
>>50095948

I seriously implore you to read the rules. Just for the sake of others. This game is actually incredibly easy to pick up and learn - making it unenjoyable and tedious is cruel to those who want to play it.

Writing up a role sheet for maybe a future sticky, what's some combinations of archetypes that you guys have had that worked really well in your sessions?

>>50096059
Don't forget the vespertine bow. That thing is a godsend, and a fucking steal at 2-4 deaths for the event it triggers.

Our newest settlement has been greatly enriched due to getting the glowing bulb for the riot mace on our first gorm fight, and getting the parts for the vespertine bow on the first flower knight fight. That really upped our group to a very workable level, very fast.

>>50096622
Jesus christ, Riot mace after your first hunt sounds busted as fuck.

>>50095900
I had a friend exactly like this, he literally played though dark souls 3 in its entirety with 3 summons 24/7 then said how good he was.

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The anticipation for tomorrow is unreal.

Got less than 3 weeks to set aside some funds boys.

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After this thread dies, I think we should make an actual /kdmg/ thread; that'll hopefully last longer than it did in the old days.

>>50099680
Yeah I missed having the generals around, shame most of the discussion peaked at release and the generals faded.

>>50100271
This game also doesn't have a ton of euro/aussie timezone players so it dies at night.

>>50100294
Yeah, I live on the West coast of Australia and the thread gets lonely af.

Good to see that it's getting more leverage as time goes on, if the kickstarter is successful maybe more fa/tg/uys here in Aus will jump on board the general.

>>50100294
>>50100363
And don't forget that those of us in Europe that do have the game may well be at work and not get on 4chan until the first Americans start coming back on.
I'm one of those myself for instance.

>>50100616
Worth considering.

>>50100363
Yea we can always hope.

I'm still bummed that their new (now dead) shipping policy blew up completely, that was a good deal while it lasted.

>>50096622
Well, we got the bulb in the first gorm fight. We beeded a second because we got nothing but organs, and needed more materials to make abything other than potions. Still, yeah, it really gave us a leg up on not getting our asses kicked, unlike our first campaign.

>>50096081
Basically by playing a "People of the Dragon" campaign you lessen the "Settlement over Characters" mechanic of the game.
Instead the focus is on the development of your smaller number of survivors, each can develop some pretty spectacular abilities, becoming stronger than any survivor in the normal and Sunstalker game-mode ever will be.
This also means that losing a survivor hurts, far more than it does normally.

If you wanted a campaign about epic characters rather than the settlement you build up then the Dragon King campaign is for you.
Also, you can get literal Nuclear Weapons (not bombs, but nuclear powered scythes, swords, that sort of thing).

This doesn't make the campaign easy though, far from it.

>>50098511
What happens tomorrow?

>>50091616
Right: it's been so long since I've played due to business that I forgot when butcher shows up. I have a handful of characters that died from various settlements that I've set as 3 xp survivors. Changed weapon types to suit, gave them a handful of leather and rawhide bits (maybe 10 between the four of them), and afew survival goodies.

I'm excited. My friend said, I quote. "I hope we win but have less than 7 limbs between survivors left" so hes entering with the right mindset!

>>50036636
Play it and had fun at first to the point you see it as made by a bad GM type (that keeps killing the group off every week because he thinks it funny). The min(s) are the lots of glue kind and break real easy. We won the game to be told we lost anyway, sigh. At that point we all stated we never play anther game of it.

>>50037239
they do not survive a 5 min drive to where we were playing at.

>>50104296
You're transporting them wrong if they're breaking that easily.
Yes the resin single miniatures are fragile, but store them in some soft foam and they'll be perfectly safe.

As for the plastic that actually come with the game, they're plastics.
Glue them with plastic glue (and less is more) and they should be fine with almost anything assuming you don't mistreat them too badly.
The small details are the most fragile part obviously, but with plastic glue and soft foam for transport they should be fine.

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>>50043755
about as fun as this. There is some cool idea here but it goes downhill quick

Which KD General number did we even leave off at last time

>>50043755
From my own experience, yes it's worth it.
But I can't say my opinion is entirely unbiased, I did back this for over $1000...

>>50104244
>The min(s) are the lots of glue kind and break real easy.

Not if you use a proper glue.

Sounds like you just have a boring group. If you'd rather have a character-based campaign instead of settlement-based, play the one that comes with the Dragon expansion.

>>50104368

Have you ever played KDM?

>inb4 bait

>>50100616
Aw man, hopefully after the first waves of normies there'll be some other posters to keep it alive while you're away.

>>50104368

Sounds like a fucktard who has never played

>>50072599
What the hell is wrong with you, anon?

>>50036636
somebody please explain KD to me, like the lore or whatever in as complete but short a post as possible.

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>>50108449

Gonna give you a tl;dr of some major points because a lot of the game is experiencing it for yourself.

>You wake up with 3 other people in a surreal, horror-wasteland.
>You must hunt to survive.
>You build a settlement and further expand a pool of people to hunt.
>Within the settlement you can build Weapons, Tools and Armour for hunts.
>You expand a slightly randomised "Tech-tree" to further improve your settlements capabilities.
>Random events provided create differing experiences from previous ones.
>Array of disorders, Special forms of fighting and Injury tables create unique hunters.
>Hobby side is quite in-depth for a "boardgame" - more of a small scale hobby line.

Saying anymore can kind of spoil things.

tl;dr - You and 3 other friends play god and look over a settlement and send people out on hunts to further improve the communities lives to progress a story.

>>50108449
actual gameplay is kind of roguelike. You want to mitigate the randomness to maximize your chances of not getting rekt

>>50103252
Especially considering the campaign's in-verse goal: For the Tyrant, the Dragon God, to find a people whom can take on the mantle of dragons from him to perpetuate his race/mercy kill him.

But yeah, the whole idea of the Dragon People is getting stronk characters, first with the campaign's unique dragon traits and then with the People of the Star's constellations.

Alright, fuck it. I'm starting a new (semi-solo) run.

I will record everything that happens to my dudes (within reason, who cares if you hit and missed the 5th attack, I'm more talking crits/kills/perma injuries).

I will post progress because I have nothing to do this weekend.

Starting in a bit, I gotta make food and pull out my tables.

>>50110244
Do it faggot, DO IT FAGGOT!

>>50110244
Sounds awesome.
Have fun Anon, may your settlement live long and prosper.