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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1152: You Madman, You Blew It All Up Edition

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>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn

>How to Jumpchain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDNjZmRG02SDFaRVk/view

>Last Thread
>>50008630
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>>50018144
Did someone say "blow it all up?"

Obligatory Elite Dangerous Jump when?
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What song plays when you grow weary of life?
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Is obtaining Sage of Six Paths Mode and Truth-Seeking Balls from MC-Kun worth it? It seems like you'd have to veer dangerously close to the fail condition for some generic shonen power-ups. Also, the jump itself seems to offer nearly everything of worth.
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Hey.

If you don't know how to use fucking spoilers, don't fucking talk about a movie that hasn't been released world-wide yet. How about that?
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>>50017494
Reasking in new thread.
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>>50018233
It would probably be more effective to just become the Ten-Tails' Jinchuriki after finding a way to purge Kaguya's consciousness from it. That gives you everything MC-KUN offers and more, plus you don't have to babysit two suicidal shonen protagonists for a decade. It's not even that hard, with the right build.
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>>50018248
Hey.

If drama originated in an old thread, leave it in the old thread. How about that?
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>>50018248
I agree. At least it wasn't plot-ruining spoilers like SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE IT WAS HIS SLED VADER IS LUKE'S FATHER HAN SHOT LAST
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>>50018207
None.
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>>50018273
Is there a reason you couldn't just go back in time and eat the God Fruit?

Like this >>50009546 ?
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How do your companions dance?
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>>50018309
Well Azula dances and fights at the same time.
Because I imported her to Erfworld as a Warlord and gave her Dance-Fighting.
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>>50018298
You couldn't with the Phoenix Gate. That does the sort of time travel that can't actually change history, with all your changes being self-correcting. There was only one Chakra Fruit, and Kaguya ate that. So either you'd fail to take it for yourself, or you'd succeed but somehow Kaguya would steal the power from you. If you had some other form of time travel that could actually change history, though, then I don't see any reason why you couldn't.
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>>50018309
My friends don't dance because if they did dance
then they're no friends of mine.
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>>50018309
Enthusiastically.
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>>50018144
Tell me about a time when you were an absolute madman.
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>>50018248
>actually taking capeshit seriously
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>>50018340
Actually, it says:

>you arrive in a version of history unchanged by your actions

Which seems to imply that you're just shifting timelines and you /can/ make changes, you just can't experience them.

>There was only one Chakra Fruit, and Kaguya ate that.
Was there? Pic-related.
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>>50018405
The fuck are you talking about? The guy you quoted was talking about how the Thread Name references Planet of the Apes
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>>50018422
There's a Planet of the Apes remake hitting theaters? Fucking Hollywood.
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>>50018422
Hey, fuck you. I was just about to watch that.
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>>50018433
>Not knowing that the original still hasn't been released world-wide
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>>50018415
No, it says you can only make stable time loops, and that anything that happened before you entered the jump is fixed. That said, fair point on using Cheat Mode to get a second Chakra Fruit. I had forgotten about that possibility. That would let you get around it being a fixed point that Kaguya has the Chakra Fruit's power.
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>>50018340
Actually, you could. But I'd strongly recommend using Minecraft's Cheat Mode to clone the artifacts you want to steal. This limits you to one per month, so be very picky about what you want. Alternately, you could make something that perfectly mimics the canon item you are trying to steal, but if you can do that, why bother with time travel to start with?
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>50018309
Poorly, but occasionally alcohol drives us to to pulse rhythmicly to music. It's rarely a pretty sight. Fun though.

>>50018392
On a related note, during my time in Invader Zim I replaced all of the water on the planet with alcohol for a few days. Was it my idea? No, it was Tak's. One of her many plans to take over the planet. Did I laugh maniacally at television screens as the world got ever more drunk? You bet your sweet buns I did.

I eventually changed it back and told Tak that Zim and Dib must have come up with some way to counteract the chemical treatment I used. Zim naturally leapt upon this and hogged all the credit despite the fact I knew he spent the time having a wild party with Dib and GIR.

My ten years there were so much fun.
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>>50018433
Yes? They're apparently planning on redoing that whole time loop again.
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>>50018452
>We can only steal one object per month
>But we can still go back in time and steal
Cool.
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>>50018452
You could only steal something if it went missing in the original timeline around the same time you traveled to. Or, I supposed, if you later used the Phoenix Gate to return it to right after you stole it, so it re-enters the historical record.

>Can only create stable time loops, and since you arrived in a version of that reality unchanged by your actions, you can't actually change anything from before you arrived.

Stable time loops only, you've got to keep the loop intact. Though as you've said, using Cheat Mode to copy the object instead of steal the original would work fine.
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>>50018207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7JUrDMOtm4

Maybe someday it'll play, when the group is ready for one last jump. But we still have things to do, and a home to return to one day.
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>>50018464
>pulse rhythmicly to music.
Are you a gelatinous cube perchance?
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>>50018433
>>50018465
I think you guys are talking about War for the Planet of the Apes, which is going to be a sequel to Dawn and Rise and continue the existing continuity/prequel series/reboot series.
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The Chakra fruit isn't unique, Kaguya's clan has found lots of them during their travels prior to arriving on earth and settling on the moon.
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>>50018464
Sauce?
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>>50018513
iqdb is your friend, buddy.
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>>50018207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
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>>50018504
Unique on Naruto's planet. Kaguya ate all the fruit that planet's God Tree produced. And unclaimed trees are evidently pretty rare, if Momoshiki was having trouble finding one and was super psyched about the idea that Kaguya's was unguarded with her being sealed away. I'm not saying you couldn't go off into space to get one, but it would be hard.
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>>50018504
Adding to anon's post, the Ototsuki didn't settle on the moon until Hamura went there, who is just Kaguya's son and he did it long after her death.
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>>50018494
Sometimes, but not that often. I much prefer my standard flesh whenever possible.

Pulsing rhythmicly to music just sounds so... sensual. I love it. Admittedly, it's a bit of an artistic exaggeration. Flailing may be a better term for our collective ability to dance.

>>50018513
No idea. I pick my art up from a ton of different places and don't always keep information of the source around. My apologies.
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Parasyte Q's

>>50011927
>They're basically copies of you with as many neurons as you can spare in there, right? Are they especially loyal, beyond that instinct to rejoin you?
You kind of 'program' them with their orders before they split off. They are essentially loyal. They won't run off and double-cross you unless you tell them to do that.

>if you go Parasyte with Multiple Parasytes, you can say goodbye to your other Parasytes to be able to use all the areas they covered in addition to your own, right?
Yes.

>Would I need to relearn how to use/shapeshift those areas, or do they just work the same as my Parasyte bodypart?
You would need to re-learn but as you are a parasyte the process is trivially fast and easy.

>Any extra difference between Cranial/Body?
No. But if you were Cranial you probably took Brightest, and it would be super easy.

And if I assume Parasyte altform and join with a new host... can I shift the parts of his/her body like they were the Multiple Parasytes or would I just have my bodypart?
You can only shift the part you occupy.

>Parasyte altform... can I replace another part of someone's body, or am I locked to the same one? Like a Cranial Parasyte deciding to join someone's arm as a Body Parasite?
It doesn't have to be the same part - if you were a cranial parasyte, hopped into your parasyte altform, you could then attach to someone's arm.

>>50014547
>How much of a torso can be made up of a parasyte?
About several kilos, so maybe the front of your rib cage and your pectoral/diaphragm muscles. But it has to be more or less just muscle/skeleton - you have to keep the human internal organs.

>>50014739
>If I took five body parasytes could my head be the only part that isn't either a parasyte or protected by one?
Pretty much. There still might be a couple of tiny weak spots but pretty much.

>Bakemono is too much cp
I thought it might be. I'll drop it to 200 for the next (and hopefully final) version.
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>>50018499
So this movie will be about BLM?
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>>50018526
It's all moonrunes, nigga.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%EB%88%88%EA%B0%90%EA%B3%A0_%EA%B3%A0%EB%A5%B8_%EC%82%AC%EC%A7%84%EC%9D%B4_50rt%EA%B0%80_%EB%90%98%EB%A9%B4_%EB%82%B4_%EA%B7%B8%EB%A6%BC%EC%B2%B4%EB%A1%9C_%EA%B7%B8%EB%A6%B0%EB%8B%A4
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>>50018573
That picture reminds me of a fan comic I saw once where Shinichi and Migi met the protagonist of Midori Days, and afterwards Migi decided to shape himself into a cute fairy girl to mess with Shinichi.
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>>50018610
You have no idea how close I was to putting in a Midori Days joke drawback.
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>>50018573
Can it extend from the torso to the arm, presumably like how Gotou's was?
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>>50018626
That would have been pretty funny. Probably would have confused people who didn't get the joke, though.
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>>50018610
>Not just being a Body Parasyte for the express purpose of reenacting Midori Days
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>>50018626
I for one would not have been able to resist that temptation.
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>>50018626
I honestly wouldn't mind if you did that.
>>50018636 has a point though, so it might be worth throwing in a note at the end to explain just in case people aren't familiar with it.
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>>50018626
Honestly, that's not the worst place to having a tiny girl growing out of. I've seen fanart of that, too.
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>>50017494

I probably need to rewrite that some, but I wasn't intending them to stack.
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With the topic of madmen and destruction in the air. How much of a bad Idea/feasible/fucking suicidal would it be to try to romance Gavrill Madaraki as a mid-chain charisma based jumper?
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>>50018573
Just how many kilos are we talking? Would pic-related be reasonable for an arm parasyte?
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>>50018673
If that's the case might I suggest making it one perk with two "tiers"?
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>>50018691
Impossible unless you buy her as a companion, but if you do it should be rather easy.
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>>50018628
>Can it extend from the torso to the arm, presumably like how Gotou's was?
You're talking about how much torso can be made up of parasyte? Yes, but you're sacrificing coverage for concentration.
Like, theoretically you could have one parasyte cover your entire skin, but they're literally stretched too thin to be very useful - they can't make very good attack appendages, and when they harden themselves they're a lot thinner, because they have to maintain coverage of a wider area.

>>50018694
That's fine.

>>50018636
>>50018639
>>50018644
>>50018654
Special for you guys, then.
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>>50018736
Magnificent.
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>>50018736
...Damnit! Now I have to pick between being a Parasyte and getting a Midori-hand.
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>>50018780
>pick between being a Parasyte and getting a Midori-hand

I'm sure you could convince your parasyte to take such a form. It might be weirded out, much like everyone seeing it, but surely you can fast talk by now, yes?
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>>50018736
Random question, but how much control would a body parasyte in your arm have over its movements?

I'm asking because I'm trying to figure out whether it's better to get one in your dominant or off hand.
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>>50018736
Right quick, the drawback mentions that your hand is either a girl or a boy, but then the rest of the drawback unambiguously states the parasyte to be Midori.
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>>50018840
No, I meant that I was planning on being a Parasyte myself.

...Though now that I think about it, just taking a Midori-hand form to mess with my host(s) seems like a great idea.
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>>50018847
Off hand for sure, that way both arms are useful.
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“Ah, you’ve found moi training boxers!” Vyers breaks his long silence, temporarily reminding you that you’re making your normal selection with company. “Wear these, and you will find your physical endurance and strength will increase one-hundred fold! All for only 400 points, with discounts if-”

Noooonononono, we are not doing that that is not true shut up. Ahem. Yes, these boxers will help you train. They’ll even act as physical exercise for training if you’re otherwise too strong to really lift weights anymore. You’d have to be just to wear these comfortably, anyways. Don’t ask me how they’re that heavy but still flexible enough to be worn as clothes.

...yes, they can come in the form of panties for ladies. Or if you’re...especially curious.

“No shame in that!”
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>>50018847
It has complete control. If you can move your arm, it's only because it's letting you. But the parasyte is really good at coordinating itself so how you move doesn't impair it (in fights, Migi tends to handle offense while Shinichi takes care of dodging with occasional attacks when he gets close enough), so putting it in your off-hand is probably the better move.
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>>50018894
I somehow forgot to paste the starting text. The item in question starts with:

100-Ton Boxers [400, Discount for Drop-In] – I...wait, what’s this doing here?
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>>50018898
>having an off-hand
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I'm not really a fan of JRPGs.
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>>50018884
At least you aren't replacing their hips, I guess.
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>>50018894
>>50018903
what.

...Do they also come in heavier than 100 tons?
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Guys, this Parasyte jump has given me a terrifying idea for a theme chain.
Peewee's Playhouse Jumper, because everything talks.

>Body Parasyte from Parasyte
>Symbiote from Symbiote
>Black Blood Weapon Companion from Soul Eater
The idea is to fill up all 8 companion slots with companions that are part of your body. What are some other good ones?

Personified Cells from The Mighty Boosh would probably be here too, despite not counting as a companion. A Kamui from KlK is on the short list, since clothing is still pretty close. Maybe some sentient weapons as well, but I kind of don't want to do that since Black Blood already fills that slot to a degree. Perhaps fluffing something from PMD? Like being a Paras/Parasect and ruling that you now have a sentient fungus growing around your brain?
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>>50018944
If you got cybernetics you could host an AI companion inside you.
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>>50018944
Parasites from Skullgirls perhaps?
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>>50018930
Too bad
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>>50018936
Sadly, no, but it'll basically function as effective physical exercise regardless of how strong you are. You just need to be strong enough to have 100 tons around your waist to start with.

This is practically a joke item unless you're a late jumper or one with lots of GAINS. This can go for a lot of items, really. I know the one the majority yall are waiting for.
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>>50018930
Cool. What other details about yourself would you like to announce?
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>>50018944
Green's ditto from the Pokemon Adventures manga is basically a knock-off spiderman symbiote with the added advantage of being able to turn into separate objects/creatures.
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>>50018894
>Vyers and the Benefactor turn the item summary into a hilarious routine
I demand more of this, especially more of tsundere/exasperated/embarrassed Jump-chan and Vyers' interactions.
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>>50018944
>Symbiote from Symbiote
That doesn't take up a companion slot while it's still a part of you. Likewise, Origin Spirit from LoK is part of your soul, but is also slotless. There's also personality cores from Portal.
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>>50018968
I'm afraid of commitment.
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>>50018966
The Hyperdrive? Or is it the Trapezohedron, just in time to take to the Lovecraft jump?
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>>50018986
Also, too bad
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>>50018986
Fascinating, tell us more.
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Jump #006
Rollercoaster Tycoon
Ahhh, this feels so... calm?

1000cp

Free:
1 Mascot
well, I assume we need it?

1 Ticket Gate
here we make the dosh

1 Park Grounds

1 Park Name
How 'bout ''Phantasmiverse''?

1 Ferris-Wheel

Cover-Ups – we wont need these, will we, Rikku?


Section 1: Transport Rides

Monorail
-50cp


Section 2: Gentle Rides

Bumper Cars
-50cp


Section 3: Coasters

Steel Coaster
-150cp

Hyper Coaster
-200cp

Section 4: Thrill Rides

Twister
-50cp

Launched Freefall
-100cp

Section 5: Subdivisions

Main Street – Well, is an Distant Future Street from my Warhammer-Time enough?
free

Kid Zone
-200cp

Resort Hotel
-200cp

What drawbacks?


End choice: Next.

>Writefag

Well, I don't know what I expected to come from this, but oh well, we'll build a Theme park. The Main Road looks like the one in the World I guarded when I was a Sister of Battle. So I build the first Subdivision for the Kids . They are, after all, the main reason families will come visit the park. And after that, I'll build the Hotel. The ''Empress of Seasons''.

After that being constructed, we'll turn towards the main attraction to come – the first Steel Coaster, the “Embrace of the Sun”, with two Loops and some more curves along the ride.

Some years in - the start of a theme park is... slow. And I won't use the mascot as a sex-symbol. we build over Twisted and Mind boggling “Battle of the Sisters” - two hypercoasters that are actually just one, but it has two trains departing alongside each other and 'battling' it out in screws, loops and all that nice shit that gets the customer really overhyped for this.

So, we leave here after getting dozens of buc... yeah, Rikku?
>Won't you want to describe your Mascot?
Nah, we'll leave that one to the imagination.
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>>50018944
Grab the PAK from Invader Zim.
Visit Portal and get a Personality Core.
Plug it into the PAK with Duct Tape Fusion.
BAM! Companion that's part of your "body" and you just gained spider legs, small jet pack, cutting lasers, and a weak bubble shield.

Win win win.

Bonus points: Snag the Adventure Sphere.
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>>50018847
What >>50018898 said. It has complete control.

>>50018881
You can chose if it's a boy or girl, just replace all female references with the male ones and make a new name (or not). I just used female gender in the bulk because that's what Midori is.
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>>50018956
>>50018960
>>50018978
Good ideas.

Also, right after I posted, I remembered Aburame Clan from Naruto, so you can be filled with bugs on top of everything else.
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>>50018966
Hm, alright. That's fine too.

I don't know /why/, but I want to get them. Might use it as a bludgeoning weapon too... or import it as my Panty & Stocking weapon?

>spoiler
What's that about then? Don't really know much of Disgaea. ...is it the Horse Weiner thing people keep mentioning?
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How hard is it to survive the Jagan Eye implantation? Does the one up for purchase at least give you decent chances?

Also, can you decide its orientation?
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>>50018944
Multi-parasytes all take up a single companion slot.
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>>50019038
Yes.

Pringer X [600, Discount for Drop-In] – The mighty and incredibly tough robot Prinny is now yours, mecha-sized and with a piloting seat that only responds to you. This building-sized robot has all you need for random, unnecessary destruction: laser beam eyes, flexible fins capable of lifting houses off of their foundations, a soda dispenser for the piloting seat! Comes with a watch that lets you summon this at will, along with a hangar that lets it fit in your Warehouse without taking up extra space. It does literally nothing else, though, so don’t get any smart ideas. You can certainly modify the mech with some trial-and-error, however. Can be shrunk down to a Prinny-sized form and will be given a basic combat AI if you need an extra fighter, though it’s fairly stupid and its power is downsized along with it. It also just keeps repeating ‘dood’ over and over while following your orders. It still packs a mean punch, though.
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>>50018944
>Like being a Paras/Parasect and ruling that you now have a sentient fungus growing around your brain?

anon my gimmick is that I am bad ideas:the jumper and this Idea seems horrendously Likely to end your chain..
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>>50018944
>Jumper tries to import companions
>Jumper loses 90% of their body and dies immediately
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>>50019123
>Yes.
Oh god why

Mecha prinny seems fun though
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>>50019123
ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>50018673
How does having a Symbiote work if you already have superhuman abilities and are a perfect host? Like Web Warriors. Does it just stack linearly or does it magnify what you already have?
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>>50019180
>In just one day.
Christ how long ago was this?
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>>50018944
Go to Akame ga Kill, grab an Extract Teigu, and make it Sapient?
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Are there any perks which would allow me to use magic for ki effects and vice-versa?
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>>50019234
Favor of Tashlan in Narnia.
>If you possess divine/spiritual/soul-based powers from multiple sources, this perk makes it much easier for you to integrate them with each other.
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>>50018673
Does the symbiote have a degree of protection from your own powers? Maybe it could just benefit from the durability and resistences that you have, since it's meant to be you + alien supersuit. I mean, Venom, in most continuities, got his webs from Spiderman, so it's not like it's without precedent.

I just don't want to burn it to death if I turn into fire through magic, for example, or for it to be damaged by extreme speed or get electrified off of me when I'm extremely resistant to electricity.

I know the version we can buy gets the weaknesses removed post jump, but it's still more vulnerable to them than I am.
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>>50019208
Well it was the announcement for SRW Z3 so....
>2014

TWO YEARS AGO?
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>>50019257
Pretty sure most magic doesn't fall under those 3 categories.
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>>50019268
I'm still waiting for V even if it has absolutely no notable new series.
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>>50018415
>>50018451
Where's the Phoenix gate from?

And, see, I do have to ask. How come Ten Tails Jinchuriki get Truth Balls if Kaguya does not have then? Would a jumper who are the fruit get them?
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>>50019308
Gargoyles

Jump Fiat
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>>50018966
I mean, 400 cp for a joke item is a bit much.
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>>50019308
The Phoenix Gate is from Gargoyles. And Kaguya does have the Truth-Seeking Balls, she just...doesn't use them, for some reason. The only time she uses one is when she's charging a final super-attack, creating a giant Truth-Seeking Ball to destroy everything so she can start over.
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>>50019282
Some does. Just wanted to post an answer that wasn't as obvious.
>>50019308
Gargoyles, for 300CP.
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>>50019306
I think the Z1/2 sprite style does better in terms of expressing animations with less, but that's just me.

No, I'm not bothered by the entirety of the FMP Z3 animations, not at all
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>>50018573
If other Parasytes in multiparasytes went to sleep, does our Parasyte form have extra mass we can use to occupy more body parts of host?
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>>50019339
>she just...doesn't use them, for some reason.
Well isnt she basically just a zombie chakra seeking husk for the actual fight?

Not exactly full form and function no?
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>>50019354
Z3 was a fucking crapshoot. The way they gutted the units list was even worse. Personally, I'm still nostalgic towards Impact sprites, even if they weren't the best.
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>>50019374
Yeah, that's the theory most people use to explain why she's so sloppy in her fight. She's not really all there, having spent the past thousand years with her soul split into ten pieces, so she's not using her abilities to their full extent. It's possible that if she had more time to recover, first, she'd be fighting smarter.
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>>50019087
If you purchase it you already gone through the procedure. The eye surgery is very dangerous, because it knocks your power down. Hiei prior to the eye was an A class demon, after he was like a E or D class demon.

You can decide it's orientation.
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>>50019404
>Impact
Do we deserve to know his name, anon?
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>>50019405
I prefer to imagine that she just can't keep her mind off the reverse harem jutsu, and spends the rest of the fight really distracted.
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>>50018944
I really imagine that when you get new symbionts, parasites or whatever others just go:

>"Alright, make a room for a new guy!"
>"Wait, wha-"
>"Hello there, we welcome you to non stop party that is jumper's body. Refreshments are there and the fun stuff is over there"
>"Wait I am so confu- HOW DID YOU GET A BAR IN HERE?"
>"The jumper is bigger on the inside"
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>>50018736
Do the post-jump fugue parasytes still take up a companion slot? If so, do they count as companions for imports/when they're separated from you? Also, can they be used in any form, or is multi-parasyte more of an alt-form? Would using them remove the ability to use "replacement limbs" such as a Devil Arm Arm?
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>>50019440
>reverse harem jutsu
what. No way that's canon.
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>>50019468
Oh sweet summer child.
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>>50019454
The don guy's devil fruit from one piece might help as well... Don't wanna know what it'd look like for normal people walking inside it though.
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>>50019468
It is super canon. And IT WORKS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUMo9aiWDUQ
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>>50019468
I dunno, it looks at least moderately canon.
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>>50019468
It is, he uses it against Kaguya
Canon to Naruto:The more powerful someone is, the more effected they are by Perverted Jutsu
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>>50019308
>>50019339
You know, everyone wants those balls, but I'm over her just wondering how I can use my bloodline to copy those All-Killing Ash Bones.
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Infernal Throne [100, Free for Netherworld] – A suitably villainous throne that is both comfortable to sit on and gives a minor boost in your intimidation ability when you’re sitting on it. Can be of any design or aesthetic you desire, though it will only change in appearance, and not function.

Dark Assembly Ticket [200, Discount for Netherworld] – Oh, this is a little bit early. It wasn’t supposed to be in this section...wait, no, this isn’t what I ordered at all! Sent it back, damn it!

“The Dark Assembly is a fickle beast...and often involves a lot of pointless politics and troublesome bureaucracy.” Vyers says, folding his arms and nodding.

Well, might as well get some use out of this. So I’ll give you this ticket if you pay for it. What it does is...well, it changes the gender of the person you use it on. They’ll be fully aware of the change, too. Good for pranks or confusion, I guess. Can be used once a day.


Because this actually happens.
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>>50019468
It is canon, and it was hilarious. It was also the best thing from the final boss battle, well that and the final boss being a moon bunnygirl goddess.
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>>50019487
>There's been this trend forming that the stronger someone is, the more these sexy techniques seem to work.
Self aware.
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>>50019468
>>50019482
>>50019487
>>50019507
>This was a plan proposed by Naruto
>And Sasuke went along with it
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>>50019501
Use it on everyone you can!
Use it on Gaston!
Use it on Momonga!
Use it on Taylor!
Use it on Integra!
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>>50019501
...what happens if you use the ticket on an Alraune?
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>>50019493
Or everyone it is used on in canon is just secretly a perv, which is much more likely.
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>>50019458
>>50019027

What first cited anon said. Can we wake up fugue Parasytes by importing them? And if they are in fugue, do they count as an alt form? Otherwise can we have them as companions and would doing so stop said Devil Arm Arm from happening or could they pick up the slack?

...man, importing all Parasytes separately and giving them all "This Is my Final form" or improving basic form would let for so much shenanigans
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>>50019507
>>50019487
>>50019482
Kakashi's expression of "Jesus christ I need a drink" is what really sells it for me.
He looks like a little part of his faith in humanity just died
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>>50019493
> Jumper's face when they took Super Pervert
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>>50019531
Well if I remember, Kaguya's reaction is more utter and abject shock than it is arousal.
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>>50019436
I too, wish to be lectured by a man standing from a a random place of great height.
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>>50019528
Well one in Disgaea 2 is actually a boy so...?
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>>50019546
It's also Arousal, she fucked a human enough to get pregnant twice. She likes her some human man
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>>50019543
For you, anon.
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>>50019560
Or just had twins.
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>>50019560
True, but that was before she went psycho.
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>>50019528
Top half Flower, bottom half still ambiguous gender.

Because it's Disgaea that's why.
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Rolled 6 (1d8)

>>50019013

1. LoL
2. WWE
3. Anno 2070
4. Sims
5. Night Angel
6. Avatar - Legend of Korra
7. Pirates of the Caribbean
8. Naruto
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>>50019522
You can actually use it as their combo attack in the games. It comes with a little cutscene of Naruto explaining it to Sasuke only for Sasuke to refuse and Naruto have to force him to do it. You can include Sai in it, too, if you've also got him in your assist menu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgBlC1JGn50
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>>50019434
If you remove the eye, like say with the below, would you still retain its abilities?

>Eye of Ages (200 CP) By scooping out one of your own eyes with a spoon and replacing it with this red gem, you gain the ability to see magic. In jump this only applies to Territories and their connections to Travelers, but out of jump it allows quick identification of any and all magic.
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>>50018207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z96ModuOAQY

Well, this and the sad localised whether I tend to spontaneously generate. Like rain. Sometimes black rain if I'm really down in the dumps.

>>50018309
After milennia, you tend to pick up all kinds of skills. It ranges from "merely" well, to force of nature.

We do not, however, speak of the Dark Morris Dance Incident of '12.

>>50018392
During a prison Stand battle, I stole all the cereal box prizes in /co/co/ and then claimed Carmen Sandiego did it.

>>50019234
Not quite the same thing but Castlevania's Dual Art lets you combine magical and spiritual effects, so fi you got creative and have the right magic system (Dresden FIles, Discworld, Dark Souls, arguably Exalted's Terrestrial Circle Sorcery) you could pull it off.

>>50019454
Honestly? For me the hardest part of getting new symbiotes is that they tend to get lost.

The leading cause, of course, is falling the wrong non-euclidean geometries in a loop for ages. Some of them fall too near my suns and get sucked into the aether by their gravity wells. A few get trapped in painted worlds or factory-cathedrals and don't know how to get out.

I can't just handhold them forever, it's a partnership. But it's kinda sad watching a symbiont bursting into tears, cowering in some dimensional bolthole because it can't find it's way to the fleshy parts of myself.
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Finally, the one you have been waiting for.

Horse Wiener [200, Discount for Netherworld] - …

Vyers is staring at you uncomfortably. Somehow, you know your benefactor is doing the same thing. The silence is so heavy you can’t hear anything except the distant ‘dood’ of the Prinnies.

It’s...it’s exactly what it says. You can use it as a weapon. Or...or whatever you’d find it useful for. I don’t...just. Let’s. Move on. Please.
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>>50019561
Thank ye kindly anon. I have saved it under an appropriate filename
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>>50019574
>implying flowers don't have gender

I mean my immeidate thought after posting was that I should have questioned what it'd do to Hideyoshi, but flowers can have stamens and/or pistils without any significant difference in appearance.
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>>50019553
I too wish to see Mass Produced Evas being lectured by a man at a random place of great height

https://youtu.be/fbSfPg1jnxs?t=65
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>>50019583
In Ultimate Storm 4 you can only use it if you have Sai in team too ounces you are in story mode against Kaguya. If you use this to win fight, depending on Character being leader at a time you have different ultimate finish flashback dialogue.

And girls, every single one, has differently animated reaction. While men are just confused while Sasuke throws an Amaterasu blade

https://youtu.be/YrmXA-AC_nk

Karin's reaction tho
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>>50019583
>Sai just goes along with it.
God damn it Sai
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>>50019591
>Horse Wiener
What was that even for in canon?
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>>50019604
I was not implying flowers don't have genders. I was implying Alraunes will continue to have ambiguous genders as part of the ongoing joke of not knowing what their gender really is in Disgaea.
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>>50019632
Making a super zombie.
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>>50019591
>200, discount Netherworld
>800 Drawback Cap
I'll take 18 please
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>>50019561
>"Obito is dying. He is killing himself to hold back the evil that he foolishly unleashed, and THIS is what my student uses with the time he bought. This is our savior, everyone. God damn you, Jiraiya, I don't know how but I know this is your fault."
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>>50019591
The drawback cp limit is 1000, 2000 if you take Devour, right?

Speaking of Devour, do we fight them at beginning of jump? Do they revive or get stronger or...?

Because I need these cp to buy 15 horse wieners
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>>50019501
> The Horse Wiener can be equipped on girls.
> The Dark Assembly Ticket can transform men into girls.

A plan is forming.
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>>50019650
>>50019591
Oh wait, discounted?

I will take 30 then
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>>50019614
>Hinata doesn't even have a reaction so they just set her on fire.
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>>50019655
You're missing the step where you recruit someone who looks just like Jump-chan for the inevitable porno.
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>>50019527
>Use it on Momonga!
H-how... how would that work? A skelly is just a skelly. There's no fun bits to change either way.
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>>50019614
I could have sworn I remembered a Sai-less version. Eh, whatever. The creepy part is that the list of targets that pass out from you using it includes Naruto's mom and Sasuke's daughter. Gross, you guys. I mean, I know that bloodlines mean you're used to keeping it in the family, but come on.
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I've noticed that people really love to sing the praises of omega level healing factor from X-Men movie jump, I'm planning on grabbing telepathy once i get to that jump, so can anyone point me to some other good healing factor perks?
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>>50019655
Please no, horse futa is going too far.
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>>50018944
>Paras

Get on my level scrub
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>>50019668
His skeleton would get broader hips?
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>>50019668
Skeletons have hips, among other things. Women have differently shaped bodies.
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I said i'd have a new WIP for you guys today, its not much but heres a few more goodies filled out.
I wanted to do more, but i am exhausted.
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>>50019501
Is the ticket Retroactive? Is it permanent?
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>>50019591
...huh.

So. Is it a fresh one, a taximdermied one or a very convincing model.
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>>50019591
Step 1: Buy 8.
Step 2: Spend ten years in the Item World leveling them up to insane stats.
Step 3: Head to Binbougami.
Step 4: Import all 8 as Heirlooms.
Step 5: Travel the multiverse with the best group ever.
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>>50019668
Men have heart-shaped pelvises, women have bat-shaped pelvises with a larger hole.

That's really the main visible difference, you can make guesses from the skull and such but it's not as exact.
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>>50019688
>>50019689
Okay, I get that but... I mean, it's just a skelly. Even with wider hips, which is hot, it'd just be bone. No curves to really demonstrate how attractive it'd be. The muscle and the fat is what fills it out and makes it look good.
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>>50019674
Regeneration is for wimps.
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>>50019722
>You're a bunch of dicks, you know that?
>Well, we really kind of are?
>...what
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>>50019709
Are they edible?
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>>50019612
The best part about that is that Rom tells Shinji "This is about being a man"
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>>50019709
Nice!

So Many Slimes: In future jumps, do they just kinda show up, or have they always just kinda been there?

If you don't take that perk, are slimes too sentient to farm elsewhere?

What happens if you tried to breed a Gauna core with the other slimes?

>>50019722
Step 6: Get that one perk in FF13-3 that lets you and your companions combine Voltron-style

Step 7: Form the dick of the dick
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>>50019737
That is a good question.
While some of the slime's plorts are used for various construction purposes, the honey slime's plorts are used as, well, super honey.
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>>50019761
Are there any slime girls?
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>>50019761
Are plorts called that because they're plorpy parts?
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>>50019721
You decide.

>>50019719
It lasts until you re-use the ticket or they change themselves back. Not retroactive, either - they notice the change quickly. It's based off the incident with Laharl in D2.
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>>50019676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUMdCV-Z7kk
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>>50019757
1. they just kinda appear around where you are.

2. no, and the ranch will be available as a warehouse attachment or to follow you. The perk just makes it easier to get slimes elsewhere. plus I just think its cool.

3. considering there are exploding and radiation producing slime, probably a poor idea.

>>50019767
I have been asked to add in a +0cp drawback for that. I still havent decided if I will.
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>>50019591
This is a weapon, yes? If that's the case, then I know what weapon I'm importing from now on. God of War and Kingdom Hearts, here I come.
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>>50019773
No clue, plorts are just what they call the stuff slimes produce.
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>>50019780
>It lasts until you re-use the ticket
By that do you mean "To change them back" or "changing someone else, turns the first person back"?
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>>50019815
Changing them back.
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>>50019809
Turn the Wiener into a Keyblade
Go to Soul Eater and give the Wiener a human form.
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Happy Early Halloween /jc/
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>>50019870
Let me know if you think the pricing is unfair, and I'll try to address it.
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Are there any places where I could get a permanent and retroactive way to gender bend someone other than Unholy Heights or a Rainmaker power in PS238.

There's a lot of amusing shipping I want to do and I'm not fond of the idea of using either of those.
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>>50019826
Is there an option somewhere to turn your weapon into an intelligent weapon, ala D&D? An intelligent Gorse Weiner of Slaying sounds like just about the best thing ever.

Maybe give it Claudia Blacks voice just to fuck with people.
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>>50019892
It is in God of War weapon customization.
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>>50019870
Huh. Looks neat. I'm about to go to bed, so don't have the time to give it a proper critique, but there certainly seems to be some interesting stuff in here.
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>>50019809
>>50019911
>God of War
Hope you like a worthless weapon.
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>>50019870
>Infected Powers Page
>Runner and Puppeteer only
I know you meant Hive, and puppeteer is likely an old name for the origin, but you might wanna fix that
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>>50019870
Much better. Why does Runner and hive only cost 100cp, the same as scientist, despite getting 1000 points to spend in an exclusive section to them? Seems like those two should cost much more.
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>>50019870
Holy shit, man. Damn, this is actually looking pretty fucking decent.
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>>50019870
>Child Prodigy
>Heller and Mercer have a kid
LEWD!!!
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>>50019913
>>50019960
Thanks!
>>50019922
It is, I must have overlooked it.
>>50019939
Good point. Some of the changes were something else I had planned initially, so there are things that are like that.
I'll increase the price in the next version.
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>>50019884
Well, this is probably the most petty use of it possible, but there's a Divine-rank Illusion spell in Anima that lets you retcon reality. It can create any circumstance that is plausible, and "character X was born the opposite gender" is fairly plausible. Being an illusion, it can be resisted, but only the most powerful being that would be included in the false history gets to roll, and the MR Check is Difficulty 120 before enhancement. And that's beings included in the illusion, so if they hadn't interacted with the genderbent character until after you cast the spell, they don't get a roll.
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>>50019870
Maybe rephrase the Child Prodigy drawback so that the new runner is described as their successor.
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>>50019870
Holy shit this actually looks pretty good so far.
My only complaint so far is that the drop-in perk tree is a bit directionless compared to the others.
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>>50019870
>>50019880
Significantly better than the last one but I have a few criticisms.

First I would suggest you add a perk for being an infected, one that provides a summery of a prototype/runner/hive's abilities and is free for the infected origins.

Also if the other two origins can't buy infected stuff at all it would be a good idea to give them some cool stuff too otherwise they seem like objectively bad choices. Though that is far from the only solution to that issue, re balancing the prices would also work as would other things I'm sure.
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>>50019965
You see anon when 2 viruses love each other very much... They make a pathogen.
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>>50019870
>The people infected with the Blacklight and Redlight viruses are no longer human, and
are in fact the virus gaining sentience and memories
Not true. This is only the case for Mercer himself, all the others including Heller, are infected but still human, not living viruses.
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>>50020011
Read it first dummy.
Besides, for all you know she might've just helped wording one perk or something
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>>50020025
It's the shitposter. Why are you feeding?
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>>50020025
Please stop responding to Scatovore.
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>>50020025
Don't respond, he's not interested in an actual conversation. He just wants attention, which means that, ironically, telling you this is giving him what he wants. It's better than the alternative of people talking to him, though.
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>>50019990
I meant child since Heller is technically Mercer's successor.

>>50020012
So clump the freebies into a single perk then?
>>50020017
2cute
>>50020018
I'll make note of that.
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>>50020037
>>50020035
>>50020030
He's sameposting to get replies guys.
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>>50019870
Hmm... Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most of the Personal Effect abilities innate to infected? Would any of them be able to be learned?
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>>50019591
Vyers is there when you are picking all of your perks, watching what you choose.

He knows your choices jumper and he is judging you for your sins/harem perks.

Vyers companion when?
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>>50019458
>>50019536
If you say goodbye to your parasytes (per the end of jump option), they no longer take up a companion slot, they can't be woken up by importing them, but you can use the morphic ability of that limb(s) in any of your forms.

The trade-off is they can't be improved by importing them as companions, and that part of you doesn't have its own mind (so it can't react to something you didn't notice, for example).

For the purposes of interaction with stuff like Devil Arm Arms, I suggest treating any parasytes connected to you as a part of you.
So if you have a companion parasyte as your right arm, and also a devil arm arm as your right arm, I guess technically your companion parasyte is in control of the devil arm arm. But when that companion takes on a non-parasyte altform, you are still the one with the devil arm arm's powers. If that makes sense? Do I need to draw pictures or something?
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>>50020047
Because you're not Alex Mercer?
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>>50020047
Oh fuck, nevermind. Missed a note.
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>>50020047
They're not inherent to every strain, though. Like, Green shows no ability to mutate herself, so she wouldn't have any purchases from that tree at all.
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>>50018699
yeah good call.

>>50019189
At best it will stack, I need to think on how it will play out but it won't magnify.

>>50019260
I need to add in notes but I think it will be protected as if its you from the effects of your powers. So a spell that would specifically hurt you in casting would still hurt, but no you don't have to worry anymore about a blast spell.
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>>50020038
who should give a shit about your opinion if you haven't even read it? if you're that biased, why do you think your opinion matters at all?
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>>50018324
As the man who created Erfworld, that is EXACTLY the kind of thing I wanted to see.

And I'm thinking about making those who are actually nobles IRL or companions who were nobles in their original life get that perk for free. Not naming names, but I'm pretty sure that one of us is actually Queen Elizabeth II./spoiler]
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>>50019591
You should add that The Horse Wiener inspires respect and fear into most demons if they know you possess one to keep in line with how ridiculous Laharl reacts when he learns about it.
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>>50020078
You told me I could do that actually. When I asked just after Erfworld was made. I asked if Azula counted as a Royal, since she IS a Royal, and you said "sure, as long as they were a royal/noble to begin with. So no being a Noble yourself jumpers, unless Prince Edward is secretly in the thread in-which case sure"

I also made a Dittomancer for the 4chan, dubs-guy. His job is to double, and eventually quintuple, Azula's Dance-Fighting bonus.
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>>50020099
>I also made a Dittomancer for the 4chan, dubs-guy. His job is to double, and eventually quintuple, Azula's Dance-Fighting bonus.
>post is double dubs
You planned this.
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>>50020055
Does companion Parasyte, when imported into jump through options, gain ability to use its imported gained perks as a Parasyte?
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>>50020073
I think from now on we should just have a bunch of guys ramble on about a jump whenever it gets posted. Like somebody posts a WIP and everyone will first go "Why isn't there a Duwang option for 100 CP? Fucking nerfs"
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>>50020115
I did not, but it proves that the 4-clan will be victorious, because my plan works!
Even if Azula isn't happy about it.
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Remember children, the words "Worthless", "Weak", "Useless", "Nerf" or "taint" in a post means it needs to be automatically ignored. It's literally the most visible bait on earth and I think y'all are smarter than that.

In other news, all companions finished! Current list of Jumps in progress or otherwise planned:
-Neo-heisei Part 2(80-85% done)
-Pretty Cure Happiness Charge(10%, maybe origins)
-Neo-heisei Part 3(Nothing written but probably about 15% if I were to write down ideas.)
-Der Langrisser( god knows. The formatting and such is done but I'd have to give it a 20% since I don't know enough about the game to be completely able to represent it yet)
-Endless Frontier(Skeleton is set up, 10-15% but once I finish the game and NH part 2 the perks will start flowing in. probably will be a 100/100/200/200/400/400/600 jump.)

Drawbacks from last time have been tallied, I'm hoping to provide at least two of every tier and then a single capstone drawback of 600
After that, it's just marking down OC switches, OC Phantoms, and fluffing out what the Capstone booster does.
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>>50020041
If this became so Decent, how good will Bleach jump become?

Anticipation intensifies, Reborn. Other than Bleach and Prototype what jumps you kept claimed?
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>>50019870
This is really well done, Reborn. Good job!
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>>50020041
>So clump the freebies into a single perk then?
Not necessarily though that would work, more of a formatting suggestion. Like a bit of informative fluff to give a basic overview of the things elaborated on in detain in the perks and provide a divide between the infected sections from the rest of the options.

This is a significant improvement on your previous work and I'm looking forward to anything else you have planned.
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>>50019870
Do Insectoid Efficiency and True HIve Mind do anything if you're aren't an infected?

Knowing how to make anything, as long as it exploits a known weakness of something else, seems extremely powerful for Counter-Intuitive. And by being able to counter any specific "biological threat", I assume you mean specific diseases and not say Zerg or Tyranids?

Flyers says that they come from non-human sources but you need to get Animal Infection in order to infect non-humans. Do I still get Flyers if I didn't buy Animal Infection?

Why does Companions let you import 6 companions instead of 8? Do companions get 400pp in addition to the normal 1000pp they get from their background, or do they only get 400pp period?

Also requesting a way to convert CP into PP.
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>>50020144
It sucks because sometimes I used to use nerf seriously and worthless when I was irritated but had an actual goal beyond just complaining.
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>>50020162
It's tainted though. You understand why you have to walk away, yes?
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>>50020144
>"Weak", "Useless", "Nerf"
Eh... Most of the time, yes.
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>>50020162
Well now you can blame that guy who cried RED RED RED this many times.
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>>50020144
>Neo-Heisei part 2 (80-85% done)
Noice
>Pretty Cure Happiness Charge (10% done)
Also noice
>The rest
Great to hear.
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>>50020099
>royal/noble to begin with
So as I made myself a King, it doesn't count, but my children do because they began life as Princes/Princesses? Interesting.
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>>50020181
Or we can blame the jumpmaker who made all the nerfs to begin with. That seems more productive than implying we can only bow and submit whenever someone wants to dick smack us.
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>>50020144
>but once I finish the game
and read up on EXCEED?
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>>50019870
Can the True Hive Mind perk be used in tandem with other non-virus-based hivemind perks from other jumps? For instance, Hiveminded from libriomancer, or Inverse Communism from Speaker for the Dead?
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>>50020148
I'm hoping it will.
I have Shrek, Deadman Wonderland, Inukami, Buso Renkin, and a few others that I forgot about I think.
>>50020155
Thanks!
>>50020156
Oh, got it.
>>50020157
Insectoid efficiency will purchase the new 300cp perk that allows you to buy into the tree . But true Hivemind cannot.
Yes, Flyers are the exception ti that rule.
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>>50020200
>That seems more productive than implying
Going out and getting a job, and leaving this place is definitely more productive than staying here and blaming some random person.

Here's your theme song by the way! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0agb3qJiCZk
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>>50020216
I've also Claimed MASH and KOTH
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>>50020072
>yeah good call.
I take it the second tier would be somewhat reminiscent of the fact that an out of control symbiote can keep going just fine with a big hole through where their host should without any long term effect to either the host or the creature?

If the above is correct I would imagine that the injuries would slow me down a lot more than they would a crazed symbiote, could the symbiote continue to act with my body if I'm panicking/in incredible pain due to the hole in my chest?
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>>50020216
>Deadman Wonderland
Pls update.
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>>50020216
Not Xiaolin Showdown? Because I think someone was working on that. They haven't showed up for months though.
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>>50020252
I'm probably going to post a poll so people can vote on which one they want done later.
>>50020296
Oh that's right, I do have that one too.
I think someone wanted to do chronicles or something.
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>>50020307
So we can't turn companions into Evolved by taking the special breed "Evolved"?
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>>50020319
Ooh, that'd be cool.

>>50020307
Please consider this Reborn.
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>>50020319
You can.
Just if you buy it with cp you can grant them perks too.
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>>50020333
Obvious falseflag.
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>>50019870
Wait, so if you absorb Superman, will your gain in strength/physical abilities, be 'minor'? How little is it comparison to his actual physical abilities?
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So has anyone said they were going to do a Flip Flappers jump yet?

Because once the series gives us a bit more info I'd like to try my hand at making a jump for it.
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>>50020127
Yes.
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>>50019870
Why do some perks have a "Free/[Insert CP]" pricing? Does purchasing such a perk give an upgraded version?
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>>50020335
Oh. Because in notes you said that infecting a person doesn't let them remain as the person, it's just a virus with their memories and sentience?

Now, time to create my own Strain. Heh. The alt form bit of Transform makes me drool. Especially if combined with Animorph.

GODDAMIT the Ultimate drawback will be a bitch. Then again supreme Hunter only has biological stuff
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>>50020249
>I take it the second tier would be somewhat reminiscent of the fact that an out of control symbiote can keep going just fine with a big hole through where their host should without any long term effect to either the host or the creature?

Yeah it will still basically be greater regen, I'll just merge the perks.

>If the above is correct I would imagine that the injuries would slow me down a lot more than they would a crazed symbiote, could the symbiote continue to act with my body if I'm panicking/in incredible pain due to the hole in my chest?

Yeah, as far as intelligence goes I'm kinda assuming that symbiotes get smarter as time passes and works more in tandem in with you as long as you accept it. Even when Flash wasn't as in control the symbiote seemed to still follow things he would of wanted done if more savagly, at least by the time the carnage bomb happened.
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>>50020350
Minor, as in fanwank something because that's a can of worms I'd rather keep shut
>>50020366
Freebie is the base power, the purchased version is the upgraded one.
>>50020371
It's a weird thing. They are still "them" in every way but now their essence is viral.
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>>50020333
>as there's nothing in canon to suggest anything at its level.

Would you prefer he say its tough enough to survive a nuke blast as in canon instead? Because obviously you are someone who cares very much about accuracy and canon and not simply making exuses to nerf imarite?
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>>50020386
Wait no it's not biological only, it's simply non magical. That means supreme Hunter gets science perks and stuff... Fuck. Will it also get our symbionts and Parasytes?
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>>50020413
Excuse me? I'm not Red, and it's great that you think if I were it'd be "feeding".
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>>50018736
Irrelevant question that I can't imagine you'd say no to, but how do you feel about someone fluffing the human they possess by taking the Cranial origin as already being in the process of dying from something like inoperable brain cancer? You know, to help alleviate the guilt of taking an origin that kills someone.

As a more general thread question, do you think this origin is any worse, morally, then what happens to your origins when they become you?
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>>50020413
>>50020409
>>50020356
>>50020333
Stop samefagging.
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>>50020413
hi I'm Red. How do you do?
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>>50020409
>Also, please demonstrate that Infected actually show "From a Single Cell"-level regeneration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ig4NR5Wm68
Here you go, Red.
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>>50020406
Yes, actually. Did you know that a tank can survive a nuke nearly fully intact? Not all the energy is concentrated on a single point, and "surviving a nuke" is not nearly as impressive as you're making it out to be.
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>>50020414
yes
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>>50020448
That's millions of cells, not a single one.
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Nefarious samefagging tactics, good sir.

http://pastebin.com/yunQHYtu

Still have a lot of places to fill things out, like granting free Item CP, the intro, and the origin explanations
But it's so close I can taste it.
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>>50020492
Do you know how blood works, anon? Are you really about to tell me that 1:19 shows only a single RBC?
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>>50020307
Is the difference between the free and 600 cp version of regeneration

Free:
A prototype's ability to regenerate completely from a handful of surviving biomass if it manages to consume enough additional biomass to build a new body.
VS
600 CP:
You can somehow regenerate from a few cells.?

If I am interpreting this correctly there doesn't really seem to be a basis for the upgraded version. The old version of prototype durability was a under powered but there is no need to add in an option well beyond their displayed feats.

>>50020448
That is not regenerating from a single cell that was a small amount of bio mass (but still way more than a cell) surviving the blast due to durability and plot armor then eating enough birds to build a new body.
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>>50020492
He doesn't start regenerating until he eats the crow. Prior to that, he's just a puddle of blood, meaning there are millions of cells in there. You're asking for a perk to grant a healing factor literally millions of times greater than observed in canon.
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>>50019870
Does the assimilation part of What Makes me Unique work on viruses outside of Prototype?
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>>50020494
>That pic
Is Spy vs. Spy anywhere near deep enough for a jump?
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>>50020527
I genuinely can't tell if you're deliberately trying to be funny or genuinely believe that.

This makes me sad about this place.
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>>50019870
Fukken sweet, Prototype is one of my favorite settings to be in JC, but the jump itself was kinda lackluster.
Thanks much!

Damn, is 10 years really enough to consume and collect all the stuff I want but can't afford with CP?
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>>50020518
The free one is a weaker than canon, the 600cp one is equal to cannon after I watched the cutscene and made a change based on a guesstimate of weight
>>50020522
Yes it does.
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>>50020556
You made a pretty shit guesstimate then.
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>>50020556
The first one seems to be the canon one actualyl, given that's what that cutscene depicts.
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>>50020578
I changed the amount, before I posted that, its now around a pound of flesh
>>50020584
The first one is for stuff like an arm or something like that.
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>>50020494
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>>50020471
You do realize a single cell can produce thousands of virions right? Each one theoretically could start an infection?
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>>50020596
The first one as anon up above described and the one you responded to, not as in the jump. Sorry if that was confusing. Having it be a pound fits better yes.
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>>50020428
Go for it anon. It's a good way to fluff taking the various levels of Personality Clash as a Cranial Parasyte.

>General question
Personally, I think not. The backgrounds you are inserted into aren't "you" until you actually hop into them. And you appear as a cranial parasyte - who itself is just following its instincts, and has no moral code of its own - after they inhabit their host body.
So morally speaking, anything they did prior to that is on them, not you. After that point, you can chose to atone for that part of yous' past actions, or continue them.

...Unless you subscribe to the theory that the Benefactor creates these universes whole-cloth for you to jump into, in which case she's created a world where all these awful things happen to other people merely for a) your own sense of adventure and b) her own amusement.


>>50020528
There's a jump about /salt/ (a joke jump, but a jump all the same).
I'm sure there's enough for Spy vs Spy.
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>>50020536
I'm quite serious. Why the hell should we be limited to what's in the setting? We're paying, we should be able to get the better goods. If a jump doesn't let us affect the plot and take center stage in a story, the jump is wrong. We're jumpers, and we always trump the setting.
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>mib is gone
>Mib da bess, nobody makes jumps like mib. Nerfhoor shudnt tuch um.

>mib returns
>Mib a shit, y u maek jumps. Y u so shet. Ur nerfn ahn buffn and its awl rong. Stahp.

Get a new routine, asshole.

>>50020596
You're being trolled. Don't change your jump on a troll.
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>>50020494
As always, cool stuff. I'll need to give it a more thorough read-through, but I like what I'm seeing on the initial skim.
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>>50020613
Yes, and? We're talking about regenerating from a single cell, not infecting from a single cell.
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>>50020613
Yes, Virions which do not conjure cells out of thin air. They generally need something to infect.
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>>50019870
I like what you've done here. The customizations sections are neat. Have you thought about putting in a CP to PP conversion so we can buy more points?
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Imagine a world where you're so pathetic and lonely that you're like this ape and need to talk to yourself in a desperate attempt at getting negative attention.
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>>50020646
There already is: 100 CP to 200 PP.
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>>50020494
Oh, I really like the Missing Piece upgrade for the Mephisto Driver. That's really cool, I can think of a lot of fun things to do with that.
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>>50020651
If I didn't loathe him I would pity him. It's just really hard to pity someone who keeps shitting on your lawn because he hates his life.
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>>50020644
Blacklight is shown to break physics, in-setting.
It's not a hard science setting.
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>>50020656
I have no idea how I missed that. Thanks.
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>>50020467
What if said symbionts or Parasytes are our companions and not abilities we ourselves have otherwise
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>>50020596
I would suggest that you only have the canon one; also an arm isn't all that much more than a pound, what was shown in the scene was a few ounces of biomass slime at most. If you are going to make us pay for the full canon version 600 seems to be overpriced considering what it does.
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>>50019234
Ragnarok online has a class perk that lets you use any power pool to fuel your magic.
Doesn't work the other way around though.
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>>50020679
I really love how you keep moving the goalposts, that's great work.
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>>50020641
Its a virus, the cell is infected. A single cell could become thousands of virions. It doesn't matter what you are talking about blacklight is in fact a virus using said single cell.

>>50020644
Considering a piece of dirt would contain thousands of bacteria and surrounding cellular life, it would be a very unlucky cell to not be surrounded by life.
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>>50020360
...

Bring on the Black Crusade! Each Parasyte worships one God, and I will form the Chaos Undivided
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>>50020724
I hope it never comes, because it means she comes back. Someone else needs to pick it up.
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>>50020679
And yet you tried to use it not breaking physics as justification earlier? Way to discredit your integrity anon.
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>>50020708
I love how your argument is brittle and must be rigorously maintained by you in order to even be considered. .
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>>50020679
[Insert something literally 90% of fictional settings here] is shown to break physics, in-setting.
It's not a hard-science setting by any means.

Obviously this means we should include non-canon powers millions of times more effective than what actually is shown.
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>>50020708
And I love how you assume that there's only one person replying to you.
>>50020750
I probably could have actually read the whole argument before interjecting, I'll admit that was my bad.
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>>50020666
NOTICE ME
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>>50020718
Again, what does the number of virii produced have to do with anything? We're talking about the amount of biomass needed to regenerate. The minimum that we've seen is a puddle full of blood. Maybe a single cell of Mercer-infected (because it's really only his strain, we haven't seen any regeneration from Green's) could regenerate from a single cell, infecting nearby biomass and assimilating it. But we haven't observed that happening. Canon shows Mercer reduced to a puddle of blood and regenerating, therefore a puddle of blood worth of cells is what we should work with for assuming canon levels of regenerative ability.
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>>50020750
Assuming we were the same person.
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>>50020718
Also keep in mind the whole storing biomass thing. It's possible that they could be reduced to a cell and still have enough biomass to make a body.
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>>50020766
If there's more than one of you, you need to coordinate better. Responding in the middle of a conversation thread with comments that contradict another person opposing me just looks sloppy.
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>>50020617
Or, if you subscribe to the belief that you're actually making these choices before the jump starts, there's the issue that taking the Cranial Parasyte origin requires someone to die.

Like, if the jumper get to make choices before the jump starts, then selecting that option, and causing one more Parasyte to exist then in canon, means you are directly responsible for someone's death. They would not have died if you'd chosen a different origin.

On the other hand, if you're just flung into the world without any choices, such that CP is a meta thing and not a choice the jumper is making, then the death of your host before you arrive is not your fault.

I just think that's something to think about.
Looking over my post, I'm suddenly worried that it comes across as me asking you to change it. That's not my intent, I think it's handled fine as it is, I just like shitposting about ethics, self, and choice.
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>>50020772
Possible, but unverified. It's also possible that Mercer could use his ability to store biomass in incredibly small spaces to warp gravity. But we've never seen it happen, so it's silly to assume it can.
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Why are we arguing over the realism of Blacklight, again?
Why not Parasyte or some other scifi organism?

It's pretty much virus-magic, not real biology. There's not much point in arguing how it works.
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>>50020782
It's fine we're all Red anyways.
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>>50020768
I would point out that we saw said puddle infecting a bird which means it consumed available biomass to grow as fast as it did. Which means what you called regeneration is both regen and absorption. Chances are that puddle had been slowly growing on worms or smaller life and had a burst of growth with the bird.
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>>50020809
Because Blacklight offers the most power, so this is the cross everyone wants to die on.
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>>50020787
Or it could be that your choices match up with a particular universe that you are then inserted into. So all drawbacks and negative implications are just due to being in a different universe. I've seen a few different ways people handle that stuff.
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>>50020617
I chose brain cancer specifically because it sounds like the kind of thing that would be fixed by eating their head, which is what I thought was basically happening. It just seems less awful if the person you kill was going to die anyway, and their disease doesn't affect me because I ate it.
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>>50020809
I dunno man. I just want a Venom-style Symbiote. To be my bestest friend.
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>>50020663
Thanks! Missing Piece in general is just the key to the good shit, and I wanted people to want to take it
>>50020633
I'm glad! I feel kinda bad it's still in such a rough shape but at least it's got a good way of it done, Neo-heisei was kind of my baby
This one will probably be shorter since I do'nt have any Scenarios to put into the jump like I did with Neo-heisei part 1
That doesn't mean they won't happen but I'll probably have NH 1 and 2 share them
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>>50020809
Because its a bullshit excuse to try to nerf virus-magic anyway.
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>>50020819
That's possible, sure. I completely acknowledge that possibility. However, it's not supported by canon. We don't see a single cell growing into that puddle. It wouldn't have been hard, you could do a little microscope-view slide of a Mercer cell eating another cell then splitting, then cutting forward to a mass of Mercer cells, then showing it on the macroscale as that puddle. Maybe they just chose not to do that as an artistic decision. That's entirely possible. But the fact remains, that we don't see Mercer regenerating from a single cell. Claiming he did is therefore nothing more than conjecture. When you're analyzing power levels, you go by observed feats, and the best feat we're observed is puddle-level regeneration, not single cell-level regeneration.
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>>50020822
Don't play dumb, we all know you are butt-hurt that the prototype regen nerf is gone, getting it to a pound is still a massive setback to the nerf crowd.
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>>50020767
>filename toilets
>image is clearly of broken sinks
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>>50020801
Well he's obviously doing something with his weight given the whole gliding thing as such however he's storing his biomass is obviously something more complicated than squeezing it into a smaller shape. From the cutscene we also see that the crow he eats could not possibly have enough mass to regenerate his entire form so it's likely that even when reduced to that little he can still store excess biomass.
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>>50020868
You're not proving me wrong.
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>>50020872
That's one possibility, that the crow was just jumpstarting the process. Alternatively he might have been absorbing more biomass and the crow was just the only absorption they showed, for dramatic effect. Such is the problem with cutscenes, it's hard to judge what is stylistic choice and what is actual limitation.
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>>50020870
You have a lot of faith in people anon. The kind of person who randomly breaks sinks like that probably doesn't distinguish them from toilets.
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>>50020724
I wholly endorse this shenanigans.
What could possibly go wrong?
"Right Arm? Where are you going? Turn back into a parasyte this instant! I don't care if you have to share this body with the Nurgle Leg, get back here!"

>>50020787
I got what you meant. This is something my jumper has grappled with a number of times over their chain.
They are currently foisting all moral responsibility for Terrible Things back onto Jump-chan under the justification that this wouldn't have happened if Jump-chan hadn't brought them along in the first place, and if they Spark and come back they can fix everything later.

The thing is, you can choose, but still have no effect on things.
Like, in the Crime procedural, you can choose to be a police officer or choose to be a serial killer, but even though you picked one or the other, doesn't necessarily mean there's an extra cop or serial killer than if you hadn't jumped in, with the special exception of Drop Ins. That's how I currently view it, anyway.

>>50020833
Yeah that's fair enough.
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>>50020854
Again you are not getting it at all. You are picturing a single cell eating another, but the cells are just biomass for the virus to shape. From a single cell thousands of blacklights would attack anything around it, say it only found a few dozen, there is a few hundred thousand more virions. You are simply not seeing the problem here.
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>>50020870
SEMMMMMMPAAAAAAIIIIIIIIII
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>>50020898
Either you're in the wrong thread, or you're teasing us on a G-Reco jump. Please be teasing a G-Reco jump, I desire more Gundams.
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>>50020874
Keep telling yourself that, maybe it will come true one day.
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>>50020874
We obviously need to buff viruses to become omniscient organisms.
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Again, this is why you post your jumps early on weekdays.
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>>50020898
Which one again?
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>>50020914
Reminder that Merlin Fucked Up
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>>50020918
>Please be teasing a G-Reco jump, I desire more Gundams.
Yes, the person that hates Red is making it.
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>>50020894
Honestly when it comes to that sort of person I only see one toilet, namely the drain.
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>>50020918
Is this a bigger hint of what I'm trying to convey
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When will you fucking faggots learn that the shitposter doesn't care about buffing and nerfing as he does destroying the world?
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>>50020898
Well, there are reasons to Gundam.
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>>50020936
I disbelieve you on the basis that if they were capable of being productive they'd use their time more wisely.
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>>50020935
would you a squirrel turned into a girl?
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>>50020905
No, I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter how the cell is absorbing biomass in this hypothetical scenario, because it's still a hypothetical scenario either way. We never see Mercer regenerate from a single cell, the most we see is him regenerating from a puddle of blood. You can propose possible ways that Mercer could have regenerated from a single cell, but I can also propose possible ways that would have kept him from doing so. It's all conjecture, so we can argue over this forever. Instead, let's just go with the reasonable method of using observed feats to judge his regenerative abilities.
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>>50020956
Only if it was Hazel.
But I wouldn't a Hazel.
Because she's for Arthur.
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>>50020872
>>50020889

Potentially its possible it might be the bird mass consider that its thousands of virions from a single cell its possible the biomass is just that more efficient than typical cells. A single cell making much more biomass than one would realize,
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>>50020940
No. Though that might just be me being obtuse. Are you saying you don't like /m/, so you're not going to make a Gundam jump?
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>>50020962
So you would argue that the blacklight virus magic is not as efficient as a regular virus? I mean yes we saw it on a larger scale, but what would be the reasons it couldn't do that?
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>>50020947
Fuck that actually makes sense. I think I might as well start tripping as Red now just to play with this guy, he seems too lonely.
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>>50020964
I can respect that.
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>>50020940
Unless you're claiming to be a janitor preparing to ban all threads/boards/posters who post anything related to mecha, no I do not in fact get what you convey.

>>50020996
The writers don't believe it ought to have been able to do that and instead wrote the plot as if it can't?
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What are some good 1-up perks?
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>>50020946
Who is that?
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>>50021029
Someone not from a real Gundam show.
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>>50020494
So I'm guessing there's going to be a section for Phantoms, right? I'm assuming the Outcase background will get one of the stronger ones for free, given that the origin focuses on magic more then any of the others?
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>>50021029
Tits McLargechest, one of the Plot Characters for Gundam Build Fighters. You know, the one where everyone has Busou Shinki instead of actual Mecha.
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>>50020997
I'd prefer if you fuck without him sans name to be honest, because that might just validate him in his own eyes.
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>>50020996
Well, we don't know the mechanism by which Blacklight repurposes cells. Like you said, it's viral magic, not any realistic biology, so we can't assume that it's taking over the nucleus and getting it to produce the right proteins. I don't know any proteins that make for space-warping like it can do with storing biomass. So it's possible it requires a more complex system, one requiring the virii to work together. Maybe it's some sort of bionanotech, and a mass of virii needs to attack a cell to take it apart for parts, meaning there's a minimum critical mass. Maybe the virus doesn't actually do anything and is just a receiver for something external, after all if they're warping space there's no reason all infected couldn't be connected extradimensionally. It would explain the hive mind. And if that's the case, maybe you need a critical mass to draw the Source's attention. Or maybe I'm wrong, and it does alter cells the normal way, but because it's such an involved modification the virus is actually quite easy to damage. So much of its capsule is taken up with the instructions for turning things into monsters that there's little for reproduction. And then you need to utterly saturate a target cell in order to get enough in there to do the job. I don't know how it works, it could be any of those or none of them. It's all hypotheticals, and like I said we could argue over them endlessly. But I really don't want to do that. It's gotten to the point where I don't even care about the jump anymore, so can we just drop it?
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>>50021027
Skullman and Universal monsters have the arguably two best ones in that they work more than once if you've finished jumping.
Terraria has a good one, but it also has stiff competition, Scott Pilgrim and Dragons Dogma have items for that sweet cheap mode bullshit. There's also Custom Robo, and Mario. Rust and technically Killing floor have them as well if you have friends and don't mind loosing your stuff.
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>>50021054
We are finally Red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FISXJNCcLM0
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>>50021027
Mario, Sburb and Captain N all have some.
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>>50021051
Ah, the McLargechest clan, I remember them from back in the old days, when I was just a boy. Those were the days, before we were all devoured by space koalas.
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>>50021029
That is Fumina Hoshino, female lead of Gundam Build Fighters Try, the sequel to Gundam Build Fighters. It's not a very good series, the waifus are pretty much the only draw (Gyanko best girl). But if you really want to go there, it's set in the same universe as Build Fighters and the jump we have for that series lasts long enough for Try to happen.
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>>50021086
Is Build Fighters the original any good? I've heard about Try being shit but what about the normal one?
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>>50019870
Can you eventually develop the abilities in the Infected Powers page if you don't buy them?
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>>50021107
It's not that great, but it's not the worse gundam out there.
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>>50021027
Buy God Hand as a Noble Phantasm from Fate. You only get one extra life per jump until post-spark, but an extra life is an extra life.

Also makes you super resistant to whatever killed you last time. Stacks great with multiple other 1ups.
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>>50021107
The original is pretty good. It has its flaws, I won't deny that (Build Knuckle is way overused as a one size fits all solution to fights, for one thing), but it has a lot good to it. Mostly because it's a love letter to the franchise. Cameos are everywhere, there are lots of in-jokes, and in general it's a show more about liking Gundam than a show about Gundam. It embraces both the cool and the stupid parts of the franchise, finding things to like about both. It wants to show you there are people who enjoy the franchise so much. Whether it succeeds at this is debatable, but you can tell there was someone with genuine passion for the series working on it. Try, on the other hand, is a shameless commercial. Instead of explaining why these things are so cool, it just shouts at you "This stuff is cool you should buy all this product see aren't these people having fun what do you mean we haven't justified their enjoyment!"
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>>50021107
It'd be a pretty good jump to fuck with people via Gundam model kits modded into Huckebeins and shit. Or arranging to have a combiner mecha team for the three on three match.
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>>50021174
Excuse me a typo: I meant to say "show you WHY there are people who enjoy the franchise so much". Not just show you that there are.
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>>50021063
Technically Universal works pre-spark, it just counts as a losing condition. So does being a discworld vampire, you are pretty much immortal and protected by jump fiat, but you will lose your jump if you do so.
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>>50021184
>Or arranging to have a combiner mecha team for the three on three match.
Just don't let your own fucking teammate (seriously, Masaki, you are the fucking WORST) goad you into a pointless conflict after you've already done enough damage to win, just to contrive how the Try Fighters would advance to the finals instead of the far more deserving Tryon 3. Same thing happened with Celestial Sphere defeating Lucas. Because he ran out of particles, despite the Celestial Sphere gunpla using attacks on the exact same level as his and being just fine with their fuel supply. Okay, that makes sense, sure. But hey, we have to have some big dumb Try Fighters vs. Celestial Sphere finale, so whatever. Oh, and this is just the quarter semi-finals for the age 16-20 age bracket, too, so it's not like this is some big dramatic fight like Sei and Reiji vs. Tatsuya was. No, it's just a footnote on the way to the championship, but we'll treat it seriously just because. Fucking Try!
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>>50019870
I'm kind of confused about how Biomass Accumulation works.
If I'm starting 100x base, and spend 2 base worth of biomass, I can now hold 101x base biomass?

Gotta say, I'm lovin' this jump. This jump is like a fuckin' comeback story now. Ugly duckling into a swan and all that.
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Updates
Page 2
>Reorganized the location section to have Keystone City and Star City in the same Column. Moveed Azarath above Tamaran.

Page 3
>Cambion Physiology: Added to the description of Astral Projection.
>Cambion Physiology: Changeed Dimensional Travel to Magic Affinity.
>Cambion Physiology: Added to the description of Constructs.

Page 4
>Changed T-Bike to Super Bike.
>Changed T-Car to Super Car.
>Changed Admission to Admission Papers and lowered the price to 50cp.
>Lowered the price of Gadgets to 100cp.
>Changed T-Ship to Super ship and added a note saying it can only be purchased once and cannot be purchased by companions.
>Added a note to Library that says it can only be purchased once and cannot be purchased by companions.
>Added a note to Not So Secret Base saying that it can only be purchased once and cannot be purchased by companions.
>Changed the companion import option and added a cannon companion purchase option.
>Overhauled the Augmentations.

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>Added a Note: If you purchased Xenothium a new supply will appear in your warehouse once every month.
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>>50021244
New combos
>Supernatural Durability + Armored Skin
>Teleportation + Costume + Xenothium + Gadgets + Utility Belt
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>>50021244
Text version since I'm too lazy to redo the imaged version with selectable text.
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>>50019870
>transform
Huh I guess if I take the runner background I'd be able to get around the 600cp tax in SAO.
I've been waiting for something like this, but I wonder if being a virus is worth it?
I don't see anything about losing the whole dissolve in water thing after the jump is over so that's pretty risky.
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>>50021244
Because the jump didn't suffer from OTB syndrome already, right?
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>>50021297
OTB?
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>>50021302
One True Build.
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>>50021302
I'm guessing he means One True Build.

No idea what that could be, possible being a half-demon?
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>>50021302
One True Build
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>>50021302
One True Build Syndrome - a certain perk/item/purchase and/or combination thereof is so much better than anything else anyone who doesn't take it can be called retarded with impunity.
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>>50021244
I remember you saying before that canon companions are always either under or overpriced and boy is that true here. 400 is certainly a tough pill to swallow.
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An Idol’s Stage [400, Discount for Netherworld] – It’s a stage set for a hell of a show! It’s a stadium-sized stage full of lights, camera, action! It has several loudspeakers, seats for an audience, and a big screen in the back that’s focused on the stage. When you take the microphone and perform on this stage, you’ll find your singing, charisma, appearance, and mind control perks all receive a considerable boost!

“Wait, what was that last one?” Vyers asks suspiciously.

In this jump and beyond, you can deploy this stage wherever you like, and carry it as a small, slightly-heavy briefcase when you’re not using it. Always has electricity to power itself, but nothing more than that.


SOON.
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>>50021324
>Well, Vyers, there's this idol singer who plans on conquering the Netherworld via her songs. Laharl kicks her ass and makes her his vassal.
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>>50021323
That's because it's a cannon companion and not a canon companion. Cannons > canon.
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Goodness me, we sure have a lot of sweet updates and shit happening today.
I'm really feelin' it. Things are looking up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY
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>>50021244
>>50021367
>cannon companion
That's probably a typo.
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Gof poision inmunity perks?
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>>50021324
Why are so many items related to Laharl-chan?
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>>50021410
Elder scrolls has a great one ,alternatively try being something without normal biology like a robot,
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I find it amusing how jumps are allowed to be completely rewritten when they benefit anons, but when a jumpmaker announced that he wanted to update Symbiote, the thread shot him down because it might "invalidate builds".
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>>50021244
>companions can't buy a heap of things
Well, don't I feel bad for getting them appropriate purchases now. Sorry Hermione, that library you've had and has saved our asses on occasion is gone. And business woman who used the secret bases 'can launch rockets without people getting uppity' clause to start a space taxi service? You didn't actually get that. Yes I know we've been using it as our main base for hundreds of jumps, but it's been retconned away, apparently because some people used companions to not have to buy them themselves or something.

I know 'nerfs' get a lot of shit around here, but seriously man? If you'd done it back when the jump was still fairly new, I could understand it. But this just punishes the unfortunates like me who got their companions items appropriate to them very early in their chains.

And no I'm not going to use the Grandfather Clause.

The other changes are nice though, and if I'd gone Cambion I'd be very happy with the magic.
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>>50021423
Because it's apparently the Disgaea 1 and D2 jump?
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Half-demon does have the widest array of powers, but I think a lot of people still prefer Tamaranean physiology or their own combination of powers and items.

>>50021323
Any suggestions for how to improve it?

>>50021403
>>50021367
I'll fix this tomorrow. Maybe. Too tired to care now.
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>>50021423
>So many
>Exactly two

?
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>>50021435
The first time the jumpmaker wanted to rewrite symbiote he got a bunch of tentative oks and a few people who were reserved about their builds.
Recently it was a lot of people worried about builds.
It's not the same people in this thread all the time, I personally think if he really wants to rewrite symbiote he should go for it. I just don't want another dead space where the perk I actually really wanted got dropped.
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>>50021244
Cannon Companions seems rather over priced.

Starfire/Blackfire are the essentially the second strongest characters available to choose from and you can give 8 companions their power set for the same price as buying one of them.
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>>50021435
Yeah, you might want to think about the context of Prototype compared to Symbiote moron. They're not in the same situation. Prototype is almost universally hated and the only thing most people even cared about was the Blacklight virus, which is even cheaper now.
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>>50021244
How strong are Starfire and Blackfire? Normal Tamaranean strength (25 tons) or enhanced (50 tons)?
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>>50021435
I just find it depressing. In theory, people should be celebrating because there's a greater variety of choices or disappointed because some of said changes (e.g. having no non-symbiote backgrounds) are kinda unreasonable, but in practice people are blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy when it comes to this stuff and their SB prejudices.

Mind you, it's not an absolute thing. It's just the line that must be crossed for uproar has been set somewhere roughly between old-Bancho's work (which given he doesn't make jumps anymore is a moot point) and that Bramastra guy's Coiling Dragon jump.
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>>50019870
Just, thank you. This is such an amazing improvement. Thank you.
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>>50021477
>Hypocrisy
I find you guys seem to routinely ignore that different jumps are in different situations when you talk like this. Makes it much easier to get smug when you ignore that Symbiote was a jump that offered a lot of very desirable and good options and Prototype had roughly one option that most people took with everything else (Save super soldier) being generic. One jump, Symbiote, is one where bunches of people got a lot of stuff they really liked and make important to their chains. The other one is one where people either got nothing or got Blacklight/Supersoldier, both of which are now as cheap or cheaper.

So yeah, try to get your head out of your ass when you call others hypocrites and actually look at the situation.
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Netherworld Hospital Brigade [600, Discount for Netherworld] – It’s no secret that Demons get in a lot of fights, and thus get injured and killed a lot. What are a bunch of medical specialists supposed to do in such a land of conflict? Make a monopoly and charge ridiculous prices for their services, of course! I’ve setup a contract with some lovely demon nurses who will operate near wherever you currently live or reside, and will fix any injury free of charge. Lost limbs? Sew it back on. Surgery? Chainsaw. Hurt feelings? Rip your heart out and put a band-aid on it before putting it back. These incredibly painful and macabre treatments will actually work without killing you, but it will hurt. A lot.

“W-wait, that doesn’t sound like it’s worth 600 points at all!”

Well, no, this is pretty standard. You can find them anywhere in the Netherworld. The benefits to these nurses is that they can heal any physical injury, and even revive the recently dead. Once per jump, should you fall in battle, these nurses will rush to your side and quickly take you away from the danger, then bring you back to life in an excruciatingly painful manner. That will be it, though, so try not to die again for that jump. Post-jump, their ‘back alley hospital’ becomes a Warehouse attachment. They won’t be companions or do anything except what is advertised here, though.
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>>50021466
>>50021477
>Prototype is no longer utter garbage and you can still get everything you had and more
>Symbiote is being completely changed, with some origins being flat out removed entirely, when it's already great
I agree on the SB prejudices for /some/ of their posters (As well as prejudices against a few other sites) because having jumps, good or not, automatically decried as shit for being from SB is definitely common (Though it isn't entirely unfounded either), but in this situation it's really a bit ridiculous to call the overhauling of prototype hypocrisy.
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>>50021504
>jump that offered a lot of very desirable and good options
>both of which are now as cheap or cheaper

I don't understand where you're even coming from. You're just proving my point.
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>>50018499
huh, didn't know that was a thing, but I suppose it's no real surprise they're making a third one
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>>50021477
People get annoyed because they made a build that could be invalidated by changes and mess with how they've planned their jumps. People are ok with updates when they're not removing things.
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>>50021529
I'll agree old Prototype was shit, though. I'm referring more to a broader trend I've seen too much of with other jumps. I remember a LOT of naggers begging YJanon and Cracker Jack to include as much OP shit in their jumps as they could whine about without regard to how canon it was.
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>>50021451
>Any suggestions for how to improve it?
I would suggest making it cheaper, canon companions are objectively worse than imports because of the price. As >>50021462 said some of the most powerful and most desired canon characters have their power sets available to multiple imports for the price of one character.
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>>50021529
>I agree on the SB prejudices for /some/ of their posters (As well as prejudices against a few other sites) because having jumps, good or not, automatically decried as shit for being from SB is definitely common (Though it isn't entirely unfounded either)
It doesn't help their case that they haven't actually made that many jumps, nor the fact that what little jumpmakers they do have tend to have very vivid personalities.
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>>50021545
Again: I have nothing against THIS as a concept and I totally get that. I'm saying that in practice, it's fairly blatent there are more important reasons for people to be giddy about certain changes.
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>>50021472
I believe they're above normal strength, I tried to find some good examples but Starfire uses her energy bolts most of the time and Blackfire doesn't have a lot of feats.

>>50021462
That's kinda why I priced it like that. For 400cp you can get a character with some of the best powers available in the jump who also has experience of using them.

>>50021553
How much cheaper?
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>>50021533
Did you even read the post? The former is talking about Symbiote. The latter is talking about Prototype. You completely ignore the problem of something like Symbiote being completely changed wrecking everyone's builds. People are fine with Prototype because it doesn't force them to possibly retcon large parts of or even entire chains in some cases if they took it really early on. It doesn't take away anything or make them get rid of stuff. Symbiote's proposed change would do exactly that, which is why it got shut down by everyone.

You seem to be completely missing the reason people are for or against these things.
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>>50021453
I meant in the context of the Netherworld item tree. Not complaining man, just asking.
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>>50021561
>more important
Really? I took Symbiote as my 6th jump. I got a lot of stuff that directed in big ways what the next few jumps and thus the rest of my chain went. I don't find it more fucking important that there are more options when I'd have to get rid of a 420 jump chain just for my build to still be valid.
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>>50021578
Symbiote isn't that new. How do you already have 400+ jumps after it already?
Do you just slam out builds front to back?
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How would I go about either absorbing or destroying a magical mantle like the Fae Queens from the Dresden Files or what most gods have in D&D? I don't want to just "take up" the mantle or move it someone else, I want to destroy it or, preferably, steal its power.
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>>50021578
Fair enough. Good for you. I guess exceptions can exist.

I don't bring this stuff often because I know it's futile in a community where admitting you might, just possibly, be wrong is a sign of weakness. Realistically, this conversation won't matter by the next thread
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>>50021571
There is a LOT of Netherworld-specific stuff I am saving for the 'Become an Overlord' Scenario/DLC, so the reason the tree is mostly items from in-game events is so I don't use the same thing twice or make later choices redundant.
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>>50021595
Maybe he positioned it earlier in his chain, and it retroactively became important?
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>>50021568
I mean, they could just not retcon their build if they don't want anything from the update.
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>>50021566
>How much cheaper?
I would say 200/300, most of that for the character themselves not the powers.

>also has experience of using them.
Is not a reason, imports get a free origin so they would also have experience with their powers. Depending on their age roll potentially more experience than the character their powers were based on.
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>>50021568
>>50021578
Ah, so basically people are preemptively stifling quality at the because they're too selfish to see past themselves. Why am I not surprised that a bunch of entitled whiners care more about their self-interest Mary Sue fantasies than actually making this place better?
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>>50021595
I make multiple jumps each day, often 3-5 or more. I work as a receptionist in a place that gets very little traffic so I often have many hours each day of absolutely nothing being required of me. A few months is easily enough to get to where my chain is.

>>50021607
>Exceptions
Counted at least 3 other posters complaining about this last thread. It won't matter by next thread because you're wrong and refuse to consider anyone's view but your own as the norm.
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>>50021628
>Implying the thread won't shit on people for using grandfathered builds.
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>>50021628
>Grandfather clause
Yeah, that's always been accepted. You're never endlessly shit on for it.
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>>50021640
Symbiote is already quality. It's not being stifled.
Don't totally revamp what isn't a broken mess. That's just common sense.
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>>50021639
What about 200 for characters without powers and 300 for characters with powers?
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>>50021578
Do you either post builds or writefag? Yes? Tank you for your contribution. No? Then it doesn't fucking matter. The only "reason" to care about an update is to not invoke thread wrath when you talk about it.
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>>50021650
Wouldn't this Red of yours be in favor of changing Symbiote by nerfing it thus quality?
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>>50021665
>Builds
Rarely but yes, especially when I have questions about a jump.
>Writefag
No. I do often talk about things that happen in my chain, every week or three. I enjoy it. I'd appreciate it not being rendered pointless or spend all my time getting shit on for it.
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>>50021640
People are complaining because they don't want updates that remove parts of jumps and cause their build to be invalid. If they don't remove anything then it's fine. Are you arguing that people should remove perks from jumps that have been accepted? Because I don't think that's ever happened before.
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>>50021684
Dead Space actually had that happen in the revamp.
Which was by the same guy so it's reasonable to be worried.
I really miss my anti undead forcefield.
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>>50021651
>>50021654
It's better than bitching at jumpmakers for updating their jumps.
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>>50021704
He asked a question. It got answered. It wasn't even a heated argument or anything.
There was no real bitching.
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>>50021713
The only bitching I think you could possibly say was people calling out the guy's friend for being shitty.
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>>50021650
This is, like, the third time today I've been accused of being Red. Really, I'm not. Why would she post anonymously when her name supposedly carries so much weight? Unless it doesn't...

But really, I'm not Red, I swear.
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>>50019870
Thought I'd post a build cause I'm pretty sure no one else has? Probably not final, but it will probably be something like this.


Prototype
Origin: 28 Year Old Male Scientist (100cp) - Time to refine some of the knowledge I’ve picked up.
Location: Times Square - Hmm. Not the first time I’ve been here.

Perks
Are You Positive? - How Practical.
Virologist (300cp) - Holy Shit this is Useful.

Gear
Hazmat Armour - Largely Unnecessary.
Research Vessel (300cp) - A Useful Place to Set Up and Research. I’ll…. Probably put this plague into remission. After that, we’ll set sail and see what else we can get up. I want to know everything about this fascinating virus.
+Size (50cp) - Much needs to be Built. For experimentation.
+Defences (50cp) - Nothing will Contaminate my Pure Skies
+Armour (50cp) - Always Wear Protection
+Anti-Infested (50cp) - Practical, and I had some extra points to spare.
+Boomstick (100cp) - This’ll be a Treat


I would probably slot this somewhere around the seventy-eighty. I’ll probably slot it in close to some other Jumps that have to deal with Biological Fuckery.

Thank you for the good update. It’s always nice to see others put in the effort to improve and better their works, and by extension, themselves.
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>>50021659
At that point you need to define powers which is extremely arbitrary, nearly everyone has "powers" to some extent except Robin and Slade who are arguably the most dangerous people in the show.

Powers really aren't the issue here but if you feel that 200 is too low then then it would be better for it to be 300 for all rather than an arbitrary divide like that.
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>>50021745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJWlWG_42kE
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>>50021745
Nah don't worry you're Red. So am I.
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>>50021745
Pleas stop responding to him, he thrives on this crap.
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>>50021785
Right. Are you the same anon that constantly claims that "I" have turned the thread into my personal goon squad and that anyone who disagrees with you is "white knighting"?
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>>50021785
>Notice how none of the complaints of this fact even bother to defend you?
I've never seen a complaint come to life and defend a person.
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>>50021822
>>50021823
Stop replying to him. It's the shitposter alone on a Saturday night because he's a permavirgin.
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>>50021822
No, he's Red.
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>My feet hurt
>Why are we yelling
>I wish I was home listening to my tapes
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Is naruto one of the jumps where you can flat out choose your age if you pay for it?

Similar question for the location roll, does free choice/pay mean I can pick anywhere at all?

Because I'm suddenly having visions of being Naruto's utterly badass grandmother.
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>>50021832
Then he should fuck off to wizardchan
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>>50021847
>Maybe I should have gotten in the robot
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>>50021847
Shinji doesn't belong.

>>50021853
Naruto puts you at the default graduation age which is 11 or something.

>>50021855
He should fuck off to hell.
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>>50021853
Unless you have no village you probably don't want to fuck with your age too much.
You're still a newly graduated genin.
That's gonna be really hard to explain.
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>>50021847
Just get Shinji from the end of 2.0. Then everyone is yelling.
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>>50021855
The heck's a wizardchan?

>>50021847
Also I don't recognise any of the girls-including that thing on the far right if it's a girl-but given they all look like Asuka if you squint this is literally Shinji's nightmare
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>>50021855
>inflicting this suffering on wizardchan
What did those poor bastards do to deserve this?
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>>50021877
Only two are girls. Far left is Simon from Gurren Lagann. Then it's someone from Diebuster I think. The one to the right I don't know but the far right is Guy Shishioh from GaoGaiGar, another guy.
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>>50021865
To be fair to Shinji, whenever he gets hot blooded it ALWAYS ends badly.

>>50021876
2.0's ending was fucking amazing, except in 3.0...well, see above. Much to my rage and disappointment.
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>>50021877
>they all look like Asuka
Nigger what? I can see it on the middle-left one, but the other two just have red hair
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>>50021855
Please don't curse wizardchan, wizardchan did nothing wrong. He can't help that he's enslaved to Angelanon
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>>50021897
Better idea: Can we trade this faggot for Angelanon? Most she does is whine when people poke her, she rarely starts hit on her own.
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>>50021847
SRW Shinji gets better and better as he goes on. Him telling the Anti-Spiral that he's the one who needs to face reality and stop running away was amazing, especially since he seemed to mean it as genuine advice, as if he was actually trying to convince AS to change his ways.
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>>50021877
You know how some idiots say that sites like 4chan are for virgin nerds? Wizardchan is the embodyment of that, no normalfags allowed is an actual rule there.
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>>50021892
I liked 3.0 on it's own but you're right in that it's a godawful follow up to 2.0. I know we never would have gotten a second season TTGL-esque ramping up of awesomeness and hot blood but it's still nice to dream.
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>>50021924
>Someone who likes 3.0
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>>50021892
>>50021924
I just love that 2.0's ending and 3.0 together are like one giant kick in the face to everyone complaining that Shinji isn't 'badass enough'. Guess what happens when you tell everything else to fuck off to be with one person you like? Everything, amazingly enough, gets fucked up because you made a reckless, stupid decision.
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>>50021865
>>50021874
Based off exact wording, he could pick uzu and then be a fifty year old genin. Not sure how the hell that would work in universe, but whatever. Maybe back it all up with other ninja-y jumps?
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>>50021847
Pic source?
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>>50021865
Which reminds me. Why was a big deal made about how many times Naruto had failed the graduation exam when Sasuke and Neji – genius prodigies – both graduated at the same age he did?
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Comin' at you with the blurbs/simple versions of the Neo-heisei part 2 drawbacks. Here you are!

Legend Riders(+0): Continuity Drawback


Plain Sugar(+100): You have a psychological compulsion to eat a certain food, one that you find either bland or disgusting (like mayonnaise straight out of the bottle) but NEED to eat to keep sane. Expect stress and anxiety if you can’t find any.


Delicious Tears(+100): Phantoms and Zodiarts will constantly approach you and attempt to to get your goat, with a pretty good idea of what will set you off. Falling for their taunts is a good way to open yourself up for their attacks.


Life is Showtime(+200): Your personality and charisma are all dropped severely and if you weren’t running with a benfactor that wants entertainment before, you have to be entertaining now. If already running with that assumption, she’s a lot more impatient and liable to end your chain for being boring if you handle situations the same way over and over again.


Chicken-Hearted(+200): You are a coward who falls into despair and temptation easily.


Star Dust Allergy(+400): Your powers weaken and even shut down completely in the face of hope and friendship.


Helpless Little Doll(+400): You need this world’s mana to survive, on a constant basis. Just being alive burns small portions over the hours, but using your powers burns this mana store(a separate one from your own) even more so in accordance to how much power is being thrown around. Enough power to destroy a city or country would certainly render you a helpless husk until some mana is infused into you by a Wizard Rider. This isn’t a chain end, but what IS a chain end is the fact that a man knows this and is searching for you to use in a dark ritual power and has access to a production factory of artificial phantoms, meaning that if you’re caught as a husk it is likely you’ll be sacrificed. You can restore mana by eating Wizards or Phantoms, or having a Wizard use a ring to help.
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>>50021889
Orange glowy hair is Nono from diebuster (gunbuster 2).

Headband girl is... not sure what her name is, but she's from gunbuster (the original).
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>>50021956
Naruto entered the acadamy two years early.
So he was in there longer even if he was younger.
Neji and Sasuke are prodigies because they're incredible for their age for things besides the minimum for graduation even if they didn't skip ahead.
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>>50021956
Because clearly the teachers were hoping if they kept letting him fail he'd quit or be expelled?
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>>50021956
People have tried making sense of it in the past but it's more of a plot hole. Naruto isn't any older then his peers in the class he does graduate in, so he can't have been held back a grade. It's really doubtful, especially in peacetime, that he would have entered two years earlier then other students (Especially since that would make him like 3 at the time). And if you can take the exam early, it makes no sense that prideful, prodigal people like Sasuke or Neji wouldn't go for it and graduate well before the standard time.

So basically it's just a plot hole meant to show Naruto having tried and failed a lot.
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>>50021975
The Noriko Nono named herself after, IIRC
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>>50021973

and the final one

Hell in a Handbasket(+600): The day is lost. Japan and the world as a whole are now a battleground, as the riders have fallen and a number of Sabbaths have taken place over the world. People are under assault from Phantoms, but they are not the only threat. Gamou’s Zodiarts have fled the earth into space, but still many Zodiart-like entities are battling and bringing down society...even fighting the Phantoms alongside even Yummies and Dopants! This is because the true schemers behind this are those of the Akuma Clan, the Akumaizer 3. They have enlisted the help of a powerful warrior only known as the Devil Man to assist them and have access to the Infinite Monster Plant, which lets them recreate the past enemies of the Neo-heisei Riders as their servants. You have a deadline in which to bring the world to order by defeating the Akumaizer 3 and the Devil Man, destroying the Infinite Monster Plant, and slaying every single Phantom on the earth. Good luck.
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>>50021953
Super Robot Wars X Omega, which is a
mobile game

You're better off playing the Alpha series or MX if you want a game with Eva in it.
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>>50021975
Ah, though it might be the other buster but it's been so long and I thought it'd be weird to have two from the same series for some reason.
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>>50021956
Never really explained, apparently you can only try to graduate three times but they never say why he has been allowed to try before.

I may be getting that three strike thing from fanon, it's hard to remember.
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>>50021946
It's a giant kick to the face of anyone that likes the series. It shits on all the characters.
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>>50022004
Yeah, pretty sure it's fanon, one of the many attempts to explain it. Damn it can be hard separating fanon from canon sometimes, especially when you've got great fics that build the world in ways that make sense.
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>>50021996
Dear god why
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>>50022006
>Shit
Does it? I can certainly see Misato and some of the other tech/support guys being shit because of their dumb, barely explained hate for Shinji but what about all the others?
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>>50021908
I'd rather have SDA or Highlander, but I guess if I had to choose, I'd choose Angel over Antired.
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>>50021526
hopspital
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>>50022010
Also, all the shitty fanon memes that turned out to be right.
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>>50021946
From what I've heard, that wasn't the original plan. Apparently, there was conflict between the guy in charge (not Anno) and the rest of the creative team over Rei. The guy in charge wanted to kill off Rei (technically Rei II) to focus on Rei III and give her some character development, and the rest of the creative team wanted Rei II to get the spotlight. So, the Rei II group got the ending of 2.0 pushed through, which caused the Rei III guy to get salty and have it be subverted in 3.0. Now, again, that's just something I heard, so take it with a grain of salt. Could be just a rumor.

That being said, either way it doesn't explain why everyone (including Misato, who actually encouraged Shinji) blamed everything on Shinji in 3.0. Seriously, what was that all about? If he hadn't done what he did, Zeruel would have killed him and merged with Lilith, killing everyone. So really, that was stupid.
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>>50022017
Why is that effeminate boy holding a Happy Meal toy?
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>>50022049
Yeah, everyone turning on Shinji (Aside from Asuka who it is totally in character for) was really dumb. People have tried to explain it in the past but that's always fan explanations, the show doesn't even bother.
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>>50022037
Man, remember when people thought Pein was Minato and Minato was actually Arashi? Naruto went on for so damn long.
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>>50022037
Goddammit. I said I'd quit if Tobi was Obito. I said I'd quit if Naruto turned out to be a Sage reincarnation. I said I'd quit if Sasuke got a Rinnegan.

I never did. I had to see the train wreck through to the end.
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>>50022050
When did Happy Meal toys have great voices

https://a.pomf.cat/svywox.webm
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>>50022076
>Tobi was Obito
Anyone who didn't see this coming deserves to be put in the bag.
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Hey I think I saw mention of somebody doing Dino Crisis, so to the anon that's claimed it, can we get a WIP, or an ETA, or something?
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>>50021946
>Everything, amazingly enough, gets fucked up because you made a reckless, stupid decision.

Fuck off. He made the same fucking decision he made in the original timeline, even if his motivation was different. And then Kaworu came in and fixed it, cause he's a bro like that.

But nope! Fuck all that! Let's just pile more depressing shit on and revamp canon any way we can! Doesn't matter that it completely throws away everything in the 2.0 preview!
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>>50022076
It does make for some potential gags during the jump.

>I'm Deidara's kouhai, Tobi
>Hi, Obito, what's it like getting crushed half to death by a boulder?
>Tobi isn't Obito, he's a good boy, unlike that nasty Kakashi kid who let Rin die
>Yeah, yeah. Tell Madara I said hi the next time you see him.
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>>50022083
People used to argue over that so much for years before the reveal.

Personally, I thought the idea of it being Obito was stupid. I don't even remember why. I honestly don't even remember most of the war arc. It all got so repetitive and ridiculous that it blended together.
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>>50022067
>Arashi
Man, I remember that Arashi Uzumaki, it was actually a decent name, for being fanon. That being said, the canon of him being Minato Namikaze and the Third changing his name to Uzumaki actually made sense. After all, a blonde Uzumaki child being born at the same time as your Hokage, who was also blonde and was an Uzumaki, was supposed to have a child...if people DIDN'T put that together, it would have been a sign that people in the Naruto world were fucking idiots. I mean, even more so then in canon. I mean, granted, it still seems pretty obvious, but at least less so then it would have been.

>Pein being Arashi
I'll be honest, if Pein had been the final boss him having Minato/Arashi as his Deva path body would have been awesome.

>>50022083
It was so obvious we all thought "There's no way they'll do it!" But they did.

Actually, I read a really good fanfic that had Tobi as an Uchiha who had been Madara's right hand man before he was killed by Hashirama, and had been plotting to carry out his boss' plans and resurrection. Can't remember the name though.
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>>50022129
>Arashi Uzumaki
Really? I always saw people use Arashi Kazama.
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>>50022148
Uh, yeah, I always saw people use Uzumaki. I guess they assumed that Naruto would inherit the family name from his dad. Never saw a Arashi Kazama. Weird. Actually, now that I think about it, I wonder where Arashi came from in the first place? I mean, it's a good name and all, but it was pretty widespread through early fanfiction. Guess it just caught on or something.
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>>50021244
Changes
>No more cannon companions.
>Reduced the 400cp purchase to 200cp.
>Companions can once again purchase the supership, library and secret base.
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>>50021280
>>50022182
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>>50022067
>emember when people thought Pein was Minato
I fucking HATED that shit. The only thing they had to go on was "He's interesting in Jinchuuriki, and he has spiky hair" But some people were utterly convinced.
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>>50022176
Because a storm and a whirlpool are "similar" in nature.
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>>50022176
When Naruto signs the Toad Summoning Scroll, the previous signature is stated to belong to the fourth Hokage. The handwriting is intentionally shitty and some people read it as "Arashi".
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>>50022176
I always saw people guessing he got Uzumaki from his mom, and that Kazama was his father's family name

>>50022129
>a sign that people in the Naruto world were fucking idiots. I mean, even more so then in canon
He looks almost identical to the man, who's face is on a fucking mountain!
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>>50022182
Speaking of which, where can I buy a cannon companion?
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>>50022176
People got confused with the writing on the summoning scroll and Minato Namikaze then gets misread as Arashi Kazama. Or something.
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>>50022205
Well, that is true, I suppose.

>>50022206
>>50022223
Wait, really? Huh. That actually makes sense.

>>50022217
Again, I always saw Uzumaki, but guess that actually wasn't the common name. But yes, people in Naruto canon are still rather blind, it seems.
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>>50022222
Soul Eater's Living weapons might count.
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>>50022198
>But some people were utterly convinced.
The Naruto fandom was composed largely of the same types of people who are completely convinced we're being ruled by a lizard illuminati.
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>>50022222
What a waste of Quints
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>>50022222
Wherever you want to buy them with those quints.
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>>50022222
You can get a Cannonneer in FFTA. Does that count?
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>>50020494
Any chance of getting a companion option for the rest of the Kamen Rider Club? Maybe as a relatively cheap group companion since really Kengo is the only one of value there?
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>>50022236
I want to argue that, but I can't. But god I've seen some STUPID fucking fanfiction in my day. There was this one fic where they had a second continent, to the East of the Elemental Nations right? It was all controlled by one Empire, that was blatantly fucking Rome, and Naruto ended up over there and as the emperor. This guy even had Maps commissioned on deviantart for it.
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>>50022222
Enter the Gungeon? I dunno, does it have a companion purchase option?
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>>50022217
And apparently no one notices he may, in fact, be an actual Uzumaki despite the name. And it's not like there aren't other blonde Uzumaki, what with Tsunade being his cousin or whatever.

Nope, it's like they just randomly assigned the name of a respected, if destroyed, allied village to him for no reason and all of his similarities to his mom are ignored.

I'll admit part of it is probably that she hadn't been created yet, but still.
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>>50022259
....not exactly that far out there, given the anime movies do actually indicate there is a second, european themed continent in existence. It's still dumb, but it's dumb that the show itself took on at least partly.
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>>50022259
Found one of the maps. Apparently it's called First Citizen or some shit.
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>>50022274
>Tsunade being his cousin
It's a really distant connection at best. They're both descendant from the sage ultimately but that happened many generations back. Mito and Kushina aren't shown to be related so her marrying the Shodai doesn't matter much for making Tsunade and Naruto more then the most distant of relations.
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>>50021058
At the risk of starting another shitstorm, we actually do know quite a bit about how the BL virus works. These are all from in-game audio logs.

>Shane Ivey: "Getting the sample is just the first step."
>Unknown Speaker: "What do you think you guys can cook up?"
>Shane Ivey: "Hm, I have a few ideas, but I think we could do cancer. It grows, it replicates. Potentially, with the sample we could engineer something that will throw it off it's game - make it destroy itself."
—Shane Ivey explaining the use of the viral sample collected.

>Harris Widgeir: "What is it we're looking at here?"
>McMullen: "The future."
>Harris Widgeir: "As amazing as it seems, he can manipulate his body on the genetic level."
>McMullen: "The changes are instantaneous. Everything, even the clothing is imitated."
>Harris Widgeir: "Tissue differentiated and transformed -- on-the-fly."
>McMullen: "I want it on a slab, I need to know what makes it tick."
—McMullen discussing about Mercer's potential.

>"Once insinuated into the system, it affects the protein encoding regions of the promoter introns within each cell. In short, it enters, repurposes and changes the cell. The new cell replicates with formerly dormant non-encoding regions active, causing drastic biological changes. More often than not, these changes are too drastic. In 99.9% of the cases, the biology of the organism fails during this repurposing, causing massive organ failure and death.
From first infection to death varies per target, but is usually measured in days or hours."
―Claude Cavillo regarding the Blacklight infection.
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>>50022259
>Naruto as a Roman Emperor
Huh. That's actually a new one on me. And I've read a fuckton of terrible Naruto fics.
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>>50022259
>Empire
Oh my god, there were twenty billion of those, and most of them involved crossover shit. I remember one having the Avatar nations, the Assassins from Assassin's Creed, Ryu and Chun-Li, Hellsing Alucard, and more as part of it. And everyone was sucking Naruto's dick like he was the Second Coming or some shit while bashing the shit out of almost every Hidden Leaf character.
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>>50021058
>>50022300
>"All births post 1965 ended in the death of the child from unforeseen genetic defects. Before these deaths, each so-called Hope Child exhibited something exceptional. The genetic disorders which claimed their lives were unique. It was almost like the virus was trying to achieve something, and failing."
―Walter Farrel explaining the effects of Redlight virus upon children.

>Gerald Morse: "You were in special projects? What were you working on?"
>Alex Mercer: "We didn't know what we were working on. I mean, I pieced it together, finally. But by then, I was hooked. It was beautiful. It kept changing. It was the single most complicated viral structure I had ever seen. All in all, I made good time. It only took me three years to make it more dangerous by a factor of ten. Morality wasn't my job. Modifying chimeric viruses was. I wasn't in field applications, I was in engineering."
―Alex Mercer about his work at Gentek.

>"Report on Project D-Code. Virus variant DX-1120 injected into one-hundred and sixty-one test subjects. No fatalities. Virus replication and re-growth of the organism completed in less than two days. Subjects show increased metabolic rate, dramatic strength and reaction increases. No side effects manifested to date."
―Paul Baughman submitting a report about the project.
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>>50022306
He certainly will be if they keep sucking like that. /s

I should check to see if any of them guessed at Kaguya being a plot point before she was revealed.
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>>50022303
I've read worse. Like one where he gets Gekko Moria's power from One Piece and goes over the top omega Edgy.

>>50022306
>almost every Hidden Leaf character.
To Be Fair. It was mostly limited to
The Civilians/Council
Sakura
The Civilians/Council
Sasuke
The Civilians/Council
Sakura
Kakashi
The Civilians/Council
Sakura
Sasuke
and Kiba of all people
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>>50022327
Artful Lounger did that one I believe. It was the edgiest of edgy. I remember at one point he started complaining that people didn't feel Naruto was dark and evil enough and started having him rape people. Aside from his other one where Naruto starts going into the author's most hated other series and murdering everyone.
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>>50022338
Yup yup yup. I stopped reading the first time he raped someone. That was too edgy, and the reason behind it too stupid, even for my edgy teenager phase.
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>>50022259
Usually it's to the west, since the map we've seen cuts off on the western edge. Usually it's some Sengoku Jidai shit going on over there so an exiled Naruto (which is a whole 'nother ball of shitty fandom tropes) can conquer it and have his own empire. Though I did once see one fic, written pre-timeskip, where the Western Continent was India-based. That was kind of cool.
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>>50022327
>Civilian Council
Where did this particular piece of bad fanon come from?
I would really like to know.
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>>50022306
I always thought that if the Hollow Quest hadn't been picked up twice and abandoned twice, the next fanfic to make jumps from would have been for Naruto.
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>>50022338
Was that the one where he started blatantly plagiarizing Hunter x Hunter and Dresden Files later on? I remember he also copied One Piece characters but at least those he acknowledged were stolen
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>>50022319
Actually, there was one where Naruto became Darth Vader basically where they guessed at the Ten Tails being a woman. They just thought she was also a pure maiden instead of a bat shit crazy alien.

And when I say he basically became Vader, I really mean he basically became Vader. Was burned alive, crippled, given a life support suit, used Dark Sage arts, tried to convince his sister (one of those fanfics where Minato and Kushina survive and Naruto has a twin sister) to join him to overthrow Madara, had Madara pull a Sidious on his sister, and had him sacrifice himself to save her and kill Madara. I am not even joking.

>>50022327
Not the one I read. They bashed Neji, they bashed Jiraya and Tsunade, they bashed LEE for God's sake. The only people who weren't bashed were Hinata (it was a NaruHina fic), Ten-Ten (who didn't get any screen time) and Guy (who was still cool).
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>>50022362
Not sure, it's been around for so long it's impossible to tell. I blame Perfect Lionheart, though that's just because his stuff is so terrible yet so inexplicably popular that you can blame a lot on him.
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>>50022349
Exiled Naruto fics were always flip floppy on whether they wanted Tsunade, because it was NEVER Sarutobi, to hate Naruto or to have had her hands tied. I ran into more than one fic where they made her hate him at first, then like 10 chapters in show she had her hands tied.

>>50022362
No fucking idea man. I don't even know where the idea of a Shinobi Council, which actually makes sense, came from. The closest in canon is Sarutobi's old teammates, who acted as advisors. They were evil 99.9999% of the time in fanfics. Like "Aligned with Danzo even before Sarutobi died" evil, even though they wanted Jiraya, and not Danzo, to be the next Hokage
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>>50022362
Someone needed an excuse to banish Naruto and didn't believe Konoha is a military dictatorship, so they acted like it was a more normal government.

Since it was convenient people started using it, especially since you know most authors haven't actually watched the show.
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>>50022374
>Not the one I read
I said "Mostly limited to". There were always exceptions, ones that bashed almost every single leaf character. But the people I mentioned were bashed the most often by FAR.
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>>50022365
Chunnin Exam day gauntlet when?
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>>50022383
>watched the show

Why would anyone? At the very least, if you read the manga you can get through it faster.
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>>50022396
Perfect Lionheart jump when?
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>>50022379
>NEVER Sarutobi
Even he isn't safe. Hell, even the ramen guy and his daughter aren't safe. If you live in the Hidden Leaf, you're automatically a horrible monster.

>>50022391
Fair enough. It just seems like most of the ones I've read turned nearly everyone from Leaf into horrible people.
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>>50022396
Dear god, no. I'm not going to that story without at least a dozen "when you kill it, it stays dead" perks.
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>>50022327
Yeah, I never did understand the Kiba bashing. I don't remember him ever being important enough to actually earn hate.
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>>50022408
I thought that was supposed to be the vault.
More than half of it is made up of his favorite flavors.
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>>50022365
Twice? Blade had it and dropped it, and now Gauntlet has it. Who had it before that?
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>>50022410
If it's a gauntlet it might be a powerless one anon

Enjoy
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>>50022408
Stepping On Worm is already basically a badly written Jumpchain. Complete with touting adherence to "the rules" while completely ignoring them whenever it benefits him.
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>>50022383
>didn't believe Konoha is a military dictatorship, so they acted like it was a more normal government.
Shit it got to the point where people either pointed this out in-story, by having Sarutobi or Tsunade give some speech about how it's a dictatorship, or they made some handwaved excuse. "Sarutobi was getting old and signed away some of his powers when not paying attention"

>>50022406
I think anon meant "their only experience with the series was through fanfiction". Which has been popping up lately, and it annoys the shit out of me.

>>50022409
Not what I meant. I meant that Sarutobi was never the one who banished Naruto. There are tons of fics where he's a horrible monster.
Less so the ramen folk, but I read one or two.

>>50022416
He taunted Naruto during their fight in the Chuunin exams, which means he's evil and always hated Naruto. Despite flashbacks showing they were friendly, and even pulled pranks together.
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>>50022416
It's because he's a male on Hinata's team, and since fanfic writers can't conceive of a male and female being on the same team and not being romantic partners (see NejiTen, which has barely even the slitest shred of canon evidence), Kiba must therefore be an obstacle to their author-insert Naruto In Name Only getting with their waifu Hinata. So they have to destroy him, and that starts with character assassination.
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>>50022422
Can it really be considered jumpchain when there's only one jump and he hasn't read the source material?
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>>50022427
Oh. Yeah, I never saw those either. Though I'm sure there's some out there.
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>>50022427
Yes. Much like 90% of all other fanfics written about popular series, it's fairly obvious the authors never read/watched/played the source material or utterly failed at comprehending it.
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>>50022444
It'll be Jumpception.
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>>50022444
No, he keeps jumping around to other universes. He took the pithy summary of Leet's power as "can make anything, once" to be literally true, so he had Leet make him an omnipotence machine. Really.
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>>50022458
If every one of Perfect Lionheart's fics were AU enough to get jumps, I supposed technically you could companion all of his self insert MCs. Imagine the catastrophe that would ensue
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So, with the sudden influx of Naruto-posting can anyone tell me how one "upgrades" their eyes? Are they placed next to your current ones and absorbed, or do they just j-j-jam it in?! Also, who's the best person to steal Mangoes from so I can preserve until needed?
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>>50022458
That's the most /tg/ thing I've ever heard.
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So does Naruto have the largest amount and widest variety of utterly ridiculous fanfics of any series or doed it just seem that way?
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>>50022469
You can only have one set of eyes at a time so without weird genetics that makes eyes do funky stuff when you switch them out it's all plug and play.
You have to pull out the old ones first is what I'm getting at.
Although if you're batshit like some of the villains you can put eyes where eyes really shouldn't go to get more "slots"
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>>50022469
No one knows, we never see it happen. It appears to have a recovery time, Sasuke was holed up healing for a while before he could take the bandages off his eyes. As for who is best to steal, I'd say go for Madara. Those are already EMH, plus Rinnegan. Nagato has them, currently, so just grab them after he dies before Obito can.
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>>50022485
Harry Potter.
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>>50022485
Harry Potter, Ranma 1/2, and Twilight are probably good contenders.
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>>50022487
>put eyes where eyes really shouldn't go to get more "slots"
Eyes can go anywhere as long as you have ninja magic or Eldritch Old One love.
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>>50022492
>>50022493
That reminds me. Was that leaked Cursed Child script the real deal? Voldemort Day and all?
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>>50022020
Well if nothing else? There's Mari, who is inexplicably more competant than every other pilot combined and only beaten out by Shinji in terms of apocalyptic plot device status.
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>>50022485
It does. 90% (though really it's 99%, I'd argue) of fanfiction is shit, and Naruto has the most fanfic of anything. Just check fanfiction.net, there are more Naruto fics than any other category.
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>>50022485
No, it actually has the largest amount of fanfics for any anime in general, from what I've seen. It has 407 thousand on fanfiction.net, almost 300 thousand more then second place Hetalia, which has 119 thousand.
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>>50022485
Just read through Perfect Lionheart's works, he tends to stick with the most popular series, and you'll definitely get the most ridiculous shit.
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>>50022485
Harry Potter has a lot as well.
I am not ashaimed to admit I have read a LOT of shitty fanfiction(well at least since my trip is off). Naruto fics, Harry Potter fics, Bleach Fics, Overlord(Game) Fics, Fate Fics, Endless fucking crossovers, Mass Effect fics, on and on and on.
I've read terrible fics, I've read bad fics that are actually entertaining.
Fuck I read Harry Potter and Gryffendor's Sword, TWICE!
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>>50022509
Oh...shit
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Like JRPGs, I don't really find myself too interested in fanfics.
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>>50022493
>>50022505
I just checked, Harry Potter has 752 thousand fanfics. More then 500 thousand more then Twilight, and more then 300 thousand more then Naruto.

Just...why?
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>>50022487
>>50022497
Jagan Eye from YYH gives you a forehead eye, and I think Resident Evil has stuff to make you mutate more eyes.
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>>50022522
Very interesting.
thank you for sharing.
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>>50022522
ANOTHER WONDERFUL FACT ABOUT YOURSELF. TELL US MORE!
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>>50022507
Let me rephrase that: More competant, sane AND explicitly only exists to provide fanservice. Think about that last part. Anno REALLY hates us.
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>>50022522
Same here, it's like watching a typhoon blow up. I'm just waiting for all the autists to be autistic about something I'm autistic about too instead.
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>>50022531
I never really understood the hype for either Warframe or 40k (the actual media, not the jumps, before anyone gets any ideas).
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>>50022502
I find she's counterbalanced by being actually fucking happy in a show where the main characters are a dead fish, a raging cunt and a mostly whiny guy who does nothing except for two or three times he does something.
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>>50022502
>Mari
Mari is the new Asuka. She gets all this buildup and hype only to get the shit kicked out of her. Actually, now that I think about it, did Asuka kill any Angels by herself aside from the one in the volcano? I'm pretty sure Shinji was the only one who ever got shit done in the original series, which I find rather ironic.
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>>50022523
Now that my trip is gone again, all for a terrible joke

Because it was something a LOT of people grew up with. I first had Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone read to me when I was in the first grade, our teacher read it to the entire class.
Then the movies exposed even more people to it.

>>50022522
Good for you. I mean that seriously, not sarcastically. It's terrible and rubbish, but I find myself reading it anyway when bored out of my skull.
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>>50022546
Man you're unexpectedly young.
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>>50022546
I guess, but 752 thousand? That's insane. The question is how many will be left if we leave only the good ones.
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>>50022540
If you're in /tg/ and you don't like 40k you're in the wrong place, friend.
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>>50022427
Isn't Kiba himself an honest to god NaruHina shipper? Seems weird that they wouldn't forgive a little teasing when the guy's only other actions aside from being in the background is to try and shove those two together.
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>>50022469
Ninja's are basically Mr Potato Head. Just pluck an eye out and slide a new one in. Or at least that's what Madara did.
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>>50022579
In fanfiction, character consistency and character development often don't exist.
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>>50022573
Negative three.

>>50022579
That chapter wasn't early enough to get cemented into place as part of Fanon Kiba's personality.
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>>50022594
Didn't Danzo implant like... the entire clan's worth of salvaged Sharingan eyes in his arm?
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>>50022562
I'm 24 Teacher read the 2nd book to us that same year. I spent my youth reading the Series of Unfortunate Events novels to help me learn to read, and new words.

>>50022573
I'll be generous and say an even hundred.

>>50022579
That didn't come up until way later. Before that Kiba's personality was "Dogs, Wanna be womanizer, wants Hinata to be his woman, may or may not view Naruto as a Rival"

>>50022609
His Clone Arm made of Hashirama's Cells
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>>50022501
Yes.
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>>50022609
Nah, just ten of them. He couldn't see out of them, though, all it gave him was ten spares to use with Izanagi.
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>>50022619
>24
Yeah that's pretty young.
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>>50022522
I always hated fanfics, even as a teen.

Only reason I managed to arrive here is because I like CYOAs.
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>>50022622
But it was literally a bad crack-ship that ignored important parts of canon.

What the fuck even is 2016?
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>>50022647
It's the current year.
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>>50022647
A terrible, terrible year.

>>50022636
Old enough to be a loser who has done nothing with my life and lives like a NEET due to a combination of bad life choices, and.....not the best parents
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>>50022573
Probably around 200. More like 1000 if you have shit taste and include the functionally written yet still shit at characterization fics.

Both Naruto and Harry Potter's numbers are heavily heavily inflated by 1-3 chapter <1000 words shitfics with nothing resembling coherency or standards.
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>>50022639
but jc is just one big fanfic. wouldn't you have been better off in gen
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>>50022609
>>50022619
Didn't Boruto retcon that, and made the arm belong to whatshisface, that crazy guy with sharingan all over his body?
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>>50022665
>Implying I know anything about Boruto
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>>50022665
>Boruto
>Canon
I refuse.
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>>50022659
><1000 words shitfics
It's really strange since I have no trouble writing out short scenes of just random things that are longer than 1k words.
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>>50022647
I'm pretty sure the rest of the world decided to parody itself this year and forgot to tell me.
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>>50022647
Stan Lee's feeding time. He has already consumed so many...
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>>50022673
I've read fics where each "chapter" consists of maybe a paragraph.
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>>50022685
Stan Lee?
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>>50022687
Jesus that's terrible. I can't even begin writefagging for jc because the intro would be 10 - 20k in length.
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>>50022696
He devours the life force of others to sustain himself.
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>>50022720
So his... appearances in the MCU aren't cameos, so much as he devoured random people and took their places body-snatcher style? Is Stan Lee a Super-parasyte?!
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>>50022739
He's as close to God as man will ever get due to all the life force he's devoured.
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>>50022739
>>50022748
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>>50022739
>>50022753
And now that you have learned his secret, he will hunt you. If you want my advice?

Run.
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>>50022660
I'm in both.
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>>50019586
I see why not.
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>>50022757
You're assuming that you can run fast enough. Stan Lee made and possesses every speed perk that exists in the chain.
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>>50022769
No one can escape Stan the Man with the Plan.

Does anyone here read Ultimo? The big bad being basically all powerful and looking exactly like Stan Lee makes all this hilarious.
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>>50022757
Hah, Araki's going to hunt me down first for realizing he's actually the Ultimate Life Form. Checkmate Stan.
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>>50022788
Stan created Araki. He created the continent of Japan and the Japanese people for shits and giggles.
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>>50022808
>continent of Japan
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>>50022808
Man, if he intended Japan to be a continent clearly I'm perfectly safe, as he'll only kill me like 10% dead.
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>>50022853
It was a continent at one point. Until Stan decided it was too big.
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>>50022867
Upon which it was folded 1000 times in the Earth's mantle, obviously.
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>>50022813
>>50022853
No no, you see, there USED to be a japanese continent, but Stan and Walt Disney broke most of it off, move it to the Atlantic, send some greek people there, and then sunk it, to serve as an example to those wo dared defy their word.

And that's how Atlantis came to be.
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>>50022886
Do you think Stan misses Disney? The two used to have such fun reigning over the world with their godly power before Disney decided to pass on to the great beyond.
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>>50020018
I'm pretty sure humans don't have the ability to turn their arms into whips/swords/maces/claws/etc.and turn into a bunch of tendrils that rip people apart to eat them.
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>>50022936
Humans fall under all sorts of definitions nowadays.
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>>50022936
Did you miss the first half of that post that says they were infected? Just because you're infected with something that changes your body in some way, doesn't mean you stop being human. Do you think someone with the flu isn't human? Neither does having super powers stop you being human either. Countless superheros have powers no human could naturally have but aren't a different species.

In any case, you've been an idiot as usual and missed the context entirely. That post was obviously in response to the quote that states all infected are just the virus that infected them having become sentient, rather then the original person gaining new abilities.
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>Nin/Tai/Gen/Bukijutsu Specialization (200 CP each, One purchase free for Orphan, additional purchases discount Orphan): You are particularly skilled and talented in an area of the ninja arts. You will start out knowing one basic technique for the category, and one dangerous, forbidden, and powerful technique from the category you select. In addition, you will learn things that fall under your category more quickly, and all techniques from your category will be faster, stronger and more efficient. Can be taken once per category.

So, um...

To not spend another thread talking about Naruto, can anyone tell me if there are any limits to which forbidden technique you choose (village, for example)? Also, is there a good list of either "basic" or "forbidden" techniques, because I went looking and there are fucking thousands of techniques listed on the wiki with little to no organization/indexing.
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>>50022658
Don't feel bad anon. I'm in the same situation and I'm 25. Always know, somewhere out there is someone who is worse off, if only by one year.
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>The Yin Sword limits, rejects, and negates any kind of event that has happened to its target. It is an ability that returns the target to its former state no matter what has happened to it. In other words, the Yin Sword returns an attack to its basic state, causing the energy to bleed off back into the atmosphere

From Samurai Deeper Kyo.

So, uh. Since this isn't Exalted, what happens when you activate this at the same time you're hit by Balefire?
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>>50022984
Nope!
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>>50023004
It works as it says it does and blocks it.
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>>50022984
The wiki actually does have an index system, , it's just kind of out of the way. Here you go, the Kinjutsu section: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Special:BrowseData/Jutsu?Classification=Kinjutsu
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>>50019884
making it retroactive is a Too much power, so no rainmaker kid would not work For that.
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>>50022984
I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I found this:

Forbidden techniques are also called Kinjutsu. Here is a list:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Special:BrowseData/Jutsu?Classification=Kinjutsu

And for reference:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kinjutsu

>ninja'd
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>>50022984
Protip: Genjutsu is literally useless for the plot. Everyone who matters no sells it and any ninja who lived past year 2 knows how to get out of all but the most subtle techniques.
Unless you went sharingan or really like mindfucking people you should probably pick something else.
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>>50023002
I dunno about you but I can't get a job. Because I don't have ID. Because my mother never took me to get my Driver's License, and now that my Step-dad tried I don't have enough proof I actually exist to qualify for a Non-Driver ID. Because I'm old enough that some forms of proof, like school stuff, no longer counts. And my mother is dead, so that extra bit of proof is unavailable.
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>>50023022
>>50023031
>>50023032
Thank you, anons.

Also what the fuck there are so many why.
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>>50023032
Unless you're a final boss-tier villain, in which case you can mess with people using genjutsu long enough to get in an attack. But even then, yeah, it's not that great compared to other ways to distract them.
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>>50023035
I can't get a job because I spent my mid to late teens in and out of surgery so I didn't get any work experience then, and around here they'd rather hire a teenage girl for their entry level positions than a twenty-something man. Can't get anything beyond because depression a anxiety issues caused me to keep fucking up in college so no degree either.

It's a pretty strange position to be in to be unable to prove you can't exist, I'll admit.
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>>50023032
Same with everything but ninjutsu.

I couldn't even FIND a forbidden taijutsu that wasn't the eight gates.
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>>50023020
If it wasn't clear, I was hoping for a more detailed explaination than "it works as advertised" from either Gaunlet or someone who knows more about Deeper Kyo/Wheel of Time.
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>>50023067
Perks generally do what they say. It's considering pretty shitty to include hidden clauses with 'ifs' and 'buts' that make it work otherwise.
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>>50023060
Well I don't think it's forbidden but Guy manages to punch so hard the air catches on fire. So that's a good enough reason to get taijutsu. I don't think he even uses the gates for that one, but I could be wrong.
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>>50023054
Hey man, you've got a high school degree. My mother pulled me out of High School because I was suicidaly depressed, promised to home school me. And then she left it up to me to make up the curriculum, and do the studying, so she basically left me to qualify for me G.E.D. on my own. A G.E.D. I have never taken, and almost certainly wouldn't pass.
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>>50023077
That's derived from the Eight Gates.
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>>50021996
well it looks like I will not be taking many drawbacks
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>>50023077
That's dependent on the Eight Gates, though, something he's trying to avoid.
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>>50022963
>All others, including Heller, are infected but sttill human.
No, I don't think I missed the context. They might be human in mind, but biologically they're virus. Also, dude, the flu doesn't give you fucking sword-arms and the ability to dissolve into tendrils that eat people.
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>>50023074
>hidden clauses
You mean like reasonable people assume are present in all "immunity" perks?
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>>50023074
Look.

I don't care about your opinion on perks. I am working on the assumption, for my chain, that perks that describe POWERS function as they do in-universe rather than coddling myself with some omnipotent Benefactor's protection. Balefire explicitly works by reversing the fact of your existence so hard, you get ripped out of the Pattern. Hence my question as to whether this guards against that or not, when as a whole Deeper Kyo seems much less dangerous than Wheel of Time.

Either give me ideas for which effect should take primacy or stop replying. I hate this stupid perk fiat bullshit.
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>>50023096
Not the case. Immunity perks do what they say.
You can fanwank it otherwise. But kindly keep that to yourself.
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>>50023095
>Also, dude, the flu doesn't give you fucking sword-arms and the ability to dissolve into tendrils that eat people.
Wait, so this bug I'm dealing with isn't the flu? Well, no wonder my vaccination didn't work.
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>>50023103
Then look it up yourself lazy ass.
If you don't want "perks do what they say" as an answer what the fuck did you expect?
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>>50023106
Fiat itself trumping everything absolutely ever WHEN IT'S NOT SPECIFIED AS DOING SUCH is a fanwank. I'll thank you to extend your own courtesy to yourself.
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>>50023095
>They might be human in mind, but biologically they're virus.
So you did miss the context. Because you seem to think that wasn't the argument people have tried to explain. They are humans with the virus, not the virus thinking for itself.

Nice to see you not answering part of the post too.

>>50023103
Research yourself then you lazy bastard. If you want to treat your chain special, do the work on your own rather then expect everyone else to bend over to accomodate your autism.
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>>50023103
So, you want Gauntlet to force your headcanon on everyone else because you don't like immunities?
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>>50023121
I hoped someone who knew more about both settings to help me brainstorm instead of just shrugging and assuming I win inevitably, you dumb piece of shit.
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Why do you people keep doing this. We were almost having a nice time.
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>>50023122
Perks having hidden flaws or limits WHEN IT'S NOT SPECIFIED AS DOING SUCH is more of a fanwank on top of being an insult given you're implying every jump maker is a liar too.
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>>50023096
I thought you said you'd stop trying to shitstorm about this.
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>>50023126
>>50023124
I want a sensible answer. Instead of one that's "lol you win because you win XD".

Also, quit samefagging on multiple devices.
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Ignore the shit poster. They bring up this dumb argument again and again. Don't give them the satisfaction.
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>>50023137
Okay. You lose. It doesn't block anything. There's your answer. Tata, stop bothering the rest of us.
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>>50023137
Nobody is samefagging, hos. I don't care what you do for your chain, but it certainly bothers me when someone is saying "No Gauntlet has to rule it works how I want because fuck you."
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>>50023130
I don't fucking know. I was asking a question about Balefire and this thing, and this manchild apparently got triggered by the slightest hint of his power fantasy being threatened.

I want.

A fucking.

Sensible.

Answer.

I'm walking away from this pathetic dickmeasuring bullshit. I just want someone who knows more about both settings than me to give me ideas for which effect has primacy here, that's literally it.
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>>50023129
Then you came to the wrong place. kys faggot.
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>>50023054
You aren't alone. The experience I had while I was working is so selective that finding a new job is apparently impossible.
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>>50023152
You got a sensible answer. Just because you don't like it doesn't change things.
It works end of story.
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>>50023152
Waa waa. Look at the baby who can't look at a fucking wiki or search up the relevant pages in the manga. What a gigantic lazy bitch.

Here's a hint dumbfuck. If you want to treat your chain differently from the majority, do it yourself.
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>>50023152
You want to force your limits on everyone else, and are getting super fucking pissed that other people don't like that.
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>>50023152
I know everything about the setting.
The sword you're talking about never loses to anything.
Feat wise it has no observable limits. So go wild.
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>>50023152
There is no sensible answer. There will never be a sensible answer. There is no scale that you can ever compare the two by, no metric, no rhyme or reason. They exist in two separate worlds, and you tentatively accept that both of these worlds may share some laws of reality, but very clearly they don't share all of them.
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>>50023122
An immunity is not "trumping everything absolutely ever". It's rendering you non-susceptible to one specific effect, and to suggest otherwise is fucking asinine. It's a binary thing: You either have it, regardless of intensity and magnitude -- or you don't, and it was merely a resistance. Personally, I predicate my buying of perks on them actually doing what they said they do. Unless it says otherwise, an immunity should be an immunity. It's not really that hard to say otherwise, and I'd rather have that than jumpmakers talking up/straight-up lying about perk effects to make them seem more competitive than they really are.
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>>50023152
You getting butthurt and feeding him makes you equally complicit in this. Look, I dunno much about EITHER setting, but you're running into a fundamental problem that, probably, no one can help you with. Specifically, that crossovers are bullshit.

WoT runs on the assumption that the universe is pretty much made out of metaphysical threads that create reality and fate. Kyo runs on Generic Japanese Fantasy, where the rules are ambiguous on purpose. Trying to figure out how these two systems would 'canonically' interact is impossible, because you're stepping far outside canon by default.

This is why we repeat our motto of "fanwank it." Because that's literally your only recourse. Asking other people to fanwank for you is stupid.

I'm sorry if this leaves you unsatisfied, but sometimes questions don't have satisfactory answers.
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>>50023192
For what it's worth? It does, but I appreciate you and >>50023180 at least confirming my rough ideas about the issue up to now.

>>50023176
...the funny thing is, i can't tell if you're talking about Calendor from Wheel of Time or the technique from Deeper Kyo.

But okay.

>>50023189
Whatever works for you.

I wouldn't have an issue with what people think their own perks mean if they didn't try to push what they think is right on everyone else. The rest of those fuckers aren't worth replying to.
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>>50023132
I don't recall ever saying that.
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>>50023211
You cannot possibly not be shitposting with hypocrisy this blatant.
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>>50023211
Here's the thing.

The way it is currently, it's ambiguous. You can fanwank it doesn't work as advertised if you want, nobody minds.

However, if you goad Gauntlet into ruling it works how YOU want, where it's not an actual immunity, you are making it IMPOSSIBLE for people who don't mind immunities to use it as such, and are making the perk blatant false advertising.

This isn't an equal situation you're creating. Your actions would make it impossible for anyone to use it in any way but how you prefer.
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>>50023224
Have you ever seen an SJW? It's like that: They climb so far into their own delusions that they can't see that they've become what they purportedly hate. It's a very real and very sad occurrence.
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>>50023232
When did Gauntlet gain the magical power to control how other people decide to write their chains?
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>>50023241
Gauntlet has always had absolute power over his jumps and how his perks are interpreted. Same with all jumpmakers.
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>>50023211
If you just never posted again I think we'd all benefit from it.
Just something to consider.
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>>50023224
I am pissed off and tired. Believe what you want.

All I can do is point you to here >>50023067 where I very clearly stated what I was requesting. From my point of view, most of the folks-not all, as I mentioned a few were insightful or at least civil if not ehlpful-who replied are the shitposters because THEY care more about shouting down any possible dissent than actually answering the premise.
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>>50023245
I respect that you choose to believe this obviously wrong, insane thing.
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>>50023250
Please go away.
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>>50023257
Wildcard proves you wrong m8. I bet you think Power of dominance actually still protects you don't you.
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>>50023232
That's ridiculous.

You're basically saying people should be afraid to ask questions at all.

I don't WANT any particular answer, and I'm increasingly dismayed at how many people seem to assume I want one either way. I've made up my own mind at this point anyway, so it's a moot point.
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>>50023265
I have no idea what you're referencing, but it sounds dumb.
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>>50023269
If you don't want an answer why did you ask for one?
Just to cause trouble?
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>>50023257
>He's seriously arguing that jumpmakers don't have control over their jumps.
Jesus Christ.

>>50023269
No, you're trying to goad him into shackling it with restrictions. Look at your first post. It's not just "How strong is this sword in-setting?" it's "Okay this isn't an actual immunity, tell me how good it REALLY is.", that's asking him for a ruling that changes the perk into a resistance and to contrast the perk's text.
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>>50023269
Seems like you certainly do want a particular answer. One that isn't what you've spent the past few post insulting people for believing.
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>>50023250
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up, nigga.

ASA? Nah, man. I'd be incredibly disappointed if it was you. So obviously it's not.
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>>50023277
Are you being deliberately dense? I just said: I WANTED AN answer. AN answer. Not any in particular.

>>50023278
And you're putting words in my mouth. I'm aware Balefire isn't fucking unstoppable, I was trying to guage how it stacked up against this thing in particular and morons like you tried to turn it into a conspiracy theory.
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>>50023274
I was referencing Wildcard's erroneous ruling on how power of dominance works regarding waveform biology.
It was quite dumb, and thankfully the other jumpmaker gave a much more reasonable explanation and everyone moved on.
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>>50023282
We can only pray it's not him.
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>>50023289
You got an answer though. And you didn't like it.
Which is why it's really fucking dumb that you keep pretending there isn't a particular answer you're fishing for.
Nobodies falling for it.
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>>50023282
For fuck's sake you're accusing me of being completely unrelated people now. You going to drag Red and, I don't know, Konata and Bancho and some namefag I haven't heard of into this too?
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>>50023289
>And you're putting words in my mouth.
No, I'm not. Look at your phrasing.

>>50023004
>So, uh. Since this isn't Exalted
Implication that the perk can't possibly be an immunity.

>what happens when you activate this at the same time you're hit by Balefire?
Implication that the perk text is wrong, request to rule informed on this and the previous part of your post to make a ruling where the perk isn't an immunity. This would thus be binding on all of us.
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>>50023289
If you just wanted an answer then you would have been satisfied with "it works because it says it does"
Why aren't you satisfied with that? Do you think jumpmakers are liers?
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>>50023302
There's not much I can say if you're going to ignore the fact I very civilly pointed out the answer I got at first missed the intent of my questioning. But judging from the fact >>50023294 seems to be trying to turn this into some stupid witch hunt, y'all niggas got an awful case of cabin fever.
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>>50023317
People generally like ASA. They're more worried you're him because then he caught a bad case of the stupid. It's like an anti-witch hunt where they're trying to keep their favorite namefags from getting assosiated with your retarded ass.
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>>50023317
Leave anon. if you've gotten your answer, there's no need for you to keep being here. No one else wants you, so it's only 'civil' for you to stop causing a pointless argument.

If you respond instead of leaving, remember that you are purposefully extending this argument with everyone and proving yourself a liar.
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>>50023317
>Civil
>Keep accusing people of being samefags and shitposters.
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>>50023312
I was referencing the fact in Exalted there's a clear delineation between what takes precedence over what

>imply imply imply

And we're back to you putting words in my mouth. Which has vaguely sexual connotations so I'd rather ignore that for now.

>binding on all of us

This is getting repeated like some sort of excuse to not care about whether things are true or not.

>>50023314
Because.

And I explained this.

"It works because it says it does" does not work for me as an answer.
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>>50023339
And yet you say you didn't want a particular answer. Liar.
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>>50023339
Then clearly there is an answer you are looking for.
Tell us what it is so we can parrot it back so you can leave.
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>>50023339
You were looking for a ruling on how the perk worked. You were fishing for a specific ruling where it wasn't absolute. And yes, all rulings are binding on all of us. We don't get to pick and choose.
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>>50023338
First two posts.

Read them, moron.

>>50023332
And I feel sorry for the poor fucker if you weirdos are yandere for him.
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>>50023355
I think you should leave.
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>>50023250
You should have asked after you had slept, in that case.
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What the fuck happened to this thread?

Mods. Mods, if you're out there-please. PLEASE just archive us now. I know our rows must be some kind of entertainment for you because that's the only reason I can think of why we take so long to archive but just for once put us out of our misery.
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>>50023382
Or you can just change the subject against since that above argument seems to have ended.
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>>50023392
In all seriousness, I am genuinely curious why we seem to take longer than anyone else on /tg/ to drop off the board. Anyone know why that is?
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>>50019870
If this has been asked and answered before, I appologize, but has mib given up claim to his jumps or authorized redoing them? will this one replace the original jump or be added alongside it?
>>50020148
is this the New Bleach jump from SB?
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>>50023402
The same reason why time passes by more slowly when you're paying attention to it.
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>>50023406
Reborn is mib's original name. Reborn and mib are the same person, and no, his Bleach redo will not be the SB Bleach.
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>>50023355
For better or worse, ASA has become something of a minor public figure. That means he's built up a reputation, and that people expect him to trend towards certain behaviors and codes of conduct (which be be either positive or negative). The way a poster acts can also shape someone's perception of them, and I'd wager that ASA seems like am "aight dood" to most people in these threads. Nobody's perfect and obviously, everyone can have bad days, but unfortunately memory will generally tend to favor negative events (partially because they stand out more, and partially because conflict is entertaining).
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>>50023406
Reborn is mib. It's just his alternate name.
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>>50023402
Because you're invested. And because we tend to die at 4-6 in the morning in the only timezone that matters so it's takes longer for people to make new threads.

>>50023406
mib is back. He's redid prototype and is redoing bleach, and a couple more of his jumps.
FoZ and Code Geass are being done by HeavensAnon once he finishes up other things on his plate.
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>>50023406
Given the jumps he's claiming to be trying to redo, I think Reborn is Mib.

In which case I don't know, he seems to be planning to redo them for now but the one I know has been redone (Warframe) seems to be staying for now.

>>50023412
I wonder if that's part of the reason why the other threads hate us. The shitflinging that builds up, and keeps building up for a couple pages.
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>>50023429
Nobody who hates us pays attention to us or has the slightest idea of what we do outside of CYOA gen hardliners with a grudge from when we split.
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>>50023421
I just feel sorry for him now. How do the other avatar jumpers like Lucario and Konata manage to avoid having anti-witch hunts held in their honor?

He posts relatively infrequently. I wonder if he's even aware of it.
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>>50023382
>>50023402
If you post in threads on the last page with less than 300 posts, they're instantly archived. Or at least that's what I've found.

I've been able to archive several such threads in quick succession when I have a thread name that I want to make sure gets used.
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>>50020935
is that sword and the stone? I don't remember the redhead.
>>
How about we try a topic?

Let's see. What did you do in Hero BBS? What was your Demon Lord like, or were you the Demon Lord?
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>>50023442
If there was ever any doubt you were shitposting. There isn't anymore.
Here's my advice. Drink a gallon of bleach. I hear it comes in pumpkin spice this time of year.
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>>50023467
I knew there was something fishy about Starbucks...
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>>50023463
I don't know what it is so I skipped it desu
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>>50019870
Is this going to be the last version or do you think you'll be refining/adding anything more? I want to make a build and just want to make sure I take any further changes into consideration.
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>>50023485
Nope, anon.

Here >>50019967 .
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>>50023461
It's /co/'s interpretation of the Squirrel to crushed on Arthur, if she had been given a human form.
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>>50023492
Thanks. I'll wait till he's done then.
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>>50023485
Whoa, man. Put on some lotion. You look kinda ashy, desu.
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>>50023467
Not him and not my intent but if some shit happened i didn't know of ill shut up.

>>50023463
Faffed around.

He was an okay guy. Classic big red devil. Great go-kart driver.
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>>50023520
BLADE, is that you? If so, what happened, mang? Where'd you go, dood?
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>>50023513
I don't get it. Just wanted to do a build when it's done.
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>>50023535
What? No!

Jesus, what the hell's going on today?
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>>50023542
Do you like Star Wars, though? How about SW fanfiction?
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>>50023552
Oh, you think I'm the guy who's randomly been telling facts about himself. Sorry, different anon.
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>>50022182
canon companions are still 400.
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>>50023495
Oh. That's cute. I like it. squirrel is better than NTR gwen or Yandere Morgana
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>>50023576
I was going to say you're wrong, but I checked both versions. You're right in the Text version, wrong in the picture version.
>>50023416
cool. does this mean we get a zanpakuto customization system?
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>>50023617
Her name is, as the comic shows, Hazel
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>>50023637
hazel is a good girl. I suspect she's looking for his nuts.
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>>50019870
Ah, no canon companion option?
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