Show me how you Paladin, /tg/.

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Paladin of redemption.

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>>50009893
I've been screwing around with the idea for a PC for a while now that I plan to use next time I get to play as a PC.

My "paladin" will, unbeknownst to the others, actually be a Rogue who wants so badly to be a knight they lie about it, forge their own coat of arms, carry around a shield with their heraldry, and smite evil. (When evil isn't looking).

It won't take the other players long to notice, but if I play it well I think the Ruse Cruise could be really fun.

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Even if you have nothing to hide you still have something to fear.

>>50010010
Actually literally legitimately edgy.

>>50009995
I love playing rogues dressed like fighters or wizards dressed like rogues. Go for it.

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>>50009893
>How do you Paladin?

Like this.

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>>50009893
Orcs can be paladins too.

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Let's fight like gentlemen.

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Friendly reminder that according to Gygax, this is a paragon of virtue, the living embodiment of LG and a true paladin.

>>50010227
who dat?

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>>50010249
Seryu, a secondary character from Akame ga Kill (it's shit, but you can enjoy yourself if you don't go in expecting anything good).

https://youtu.be/o0T8bzaxL14

>>50009893

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http://youtu.be/YGzqbEeVWhs
It's the only way

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>>50010029
You paladin the best!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAQtEs2Img

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>>50009893
This is how I paladin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9lVjZg-Kg

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>>50009893
Paladin of Chauntea

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>>50009893
>gold dwarf paladin

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Here is how you paladin properly

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>>50010971

>>50010227
Nope. Traveled with evil party members, instant fall.
t. gygax

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Like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LTVHSTh_l0

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>>50011813
>Implying the Jaegers did anything wrong
>anything at all

>>50012074
Sorry, dems the rules. If you complain, bolt from the blue and you can roll up her sister paladin in the next town over.

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>>50011751
Eliwood is another way to paladin correctly.

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>>50009893
Paladin of anarchy.

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Unworthy individuals need not apply for permission to live.

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>>50012202
>Ladd
>Paladin

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>>50009893

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Be kind to your fellow comrades, find the best solution you can in a situation. Be reasonable.

Except when it comes to the undead.

Cuz fuck the undead.

Oath of Vengence best oath.

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The one and only way

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>>50013058
Something seems... off about that particular paladin, anon.
How's he feel about Succubi?
>>50012074
You're right, anon. They did EVERYTHING wrong.

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>>50009893
surly paladin = best paladin

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Shame the game fell apart...

>>50011778
Damn those vore fetishists, I swear!

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This is how I plan to paladin.

>>50013587
More like gore desu he rips that lion in fucking half.

>>50010227
You mean the definition of a LE Crusader, right?

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>tfw you just want to murder all the bad people but can't because the other paladins say genocide is wrong

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>trying to Paladin in caster edition

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>>50013682
>dark paladin redeems himself

>>50013707
>Can't tell if Undyne or Ornstein

>>50010010
> the worst kind of paladin

>>50014577
> that's not a pretty good thing

>>50014405
He's the most truly pure person in that hellhole of a setting

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By the book.

>>50014386
Aren't all ants, except the queen, male?

>>50015079
No, the workers and so on are non-reproducing females. There are a few males, called drones.

>>50014405

This is about the closest approximation I can think of to my current Pathfinder pally. He really wants to be a good guy, but he's got a bit of a temper (the CG Ranger called him out on going overboard in a fight). Whats more, he tends to jump into situations that he knows he shouldn't in order to please his god or his own sense of right; so far this has gotten him killed and brought back to life once.

>>50009893
I don't because I'm not autistically obsessed with the idea that there is an objective good and forcing everyone around me to conform to it

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>>50009893

>>50010010
That's a quick road to falling friendo

>>50013974
I don't hold being written by Bendis against you

>>50014405
Licenseless Rider is a true hero, a real light shining upon the darkness of the world

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>>50009893
And they said paladin couldn't multi-class with bard.

>>50010030
Took me a while. But it looks like some idiot made the comic backward.

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The oath to protect those who need protecting isn't an easy one. It won't always be glamorous or rewarding, but that was never the point. The point is to stand up for those who can not stand up for themselves. To help those who need it and to be a symbol people can find peace, comfort and hope in. To face evil head on to make the world a better place for all.

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The only thing you'll find tonight is JUSTICE.

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>>50010267
>it's shit, but you can enjoy yourself if you don't go in expecting anything good

JUSTICE DEMANDS RETRIBUTION!

PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT!

>>50010030
somebody post the pedo hunter ork

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>>50009893

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>>50010267
>it's shit, but you can enjoy yourself if you don't go in expecting anything good

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Does this work?

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>>50009966
You. You are my friend.

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>>50011813
Esdeath is Lawful Neutral under "Survival of the fittest" logic, and the fag Doctor never actually travelled with them. So nah she's the perfect Paladin still.

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have YOU gone through the three stages of playing lawful good yet?

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>>50013547
Nah you're thinking of Wild Hunt.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
IF YOU ARE NO FRIEND OF JUSTICE THEN YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF MINE

>>50014917
There is no such thing as innocence.
Only degrees of guilt.

>>50010309

my hidalgo.

>>50016393
This pleases me greatly.

>>50017007
Playing through this game blind and unspoiled by memes was an amazing experience. Watching everything slowly fade away was oddly serene. It was perfect melancholy, made all the more tragic by becoming attached to the few sane characters I could find. Laurentius, Andre, Crestfallen, the hollow merchant, Solaire, Quelana, and my dearest Fair Lady, as well as all the others.

A few glitches made everything all the more entertaining, and the way that they fucked my world up was pretty fitting and organic feeling.

>>50013058
>Momonga
>Paladin

KYS

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>>50015745
>>50013569
You're doing it right.

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>I AM ARTORIUS ! THE STRONGEST PALADIN... IN THE WORLD !

>>50016330
I'd say so.
Midorya is definitely pally material as well.

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It's actually kind of a challenge to make a Punisher Paladin but it can work.

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Goblins must be destroyed

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>>50018128
>Punisher Paladin
What

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When nearly everyone is some form of monstrous killer is it really bad to enjoy the slaughter?

>>50017121
How is the show of Dresden Files anyway?

>>50018182
Hodrick is the ultimate parry-based lifeform.

True neutral paladin of balance, for every good deed I did I had to perform an equally evil one and vice versa. (DM allowed it because it amused him)

>>50018165
"The Punisher"

>>50019032
That is the dumbest and most nonsensical use of TN ever

>>50019032
That's stupid. The only thing you're balancing is yourself. Unless you are being really damn funny/engaging for the other players you might as well not exist.

>>50010227
AAANNNDDDD this is why I give zero fucks about team kills.
>>50010267
>Shit
The ANIME is shit
the manga is decent

>>50012074
Sadism is pretty much instant evil.

>>50019032
Not sure if totally retarded or a great way to troll the party, I mean it's like slay the dragon to save the princess and then killing her yourself, it could fuck the party over in so many ways.

>>50018182
Why does Dark Souls have so many unimportant but cool NPCs?

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>>50019599
Possibly to deepen the impression that you as a character are not special, that the world is full of stories like your own and characters who aren't obligated to play a part in your experience.

TL;DR: sonder

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>>50019599
THIS MOTHERFUCKER AND HIS WEAPON

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>>50009893
>no longer have a non-motiviational, non-watermarked version of the image
:(

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>>50019032
Not only is that not neutrality, that is actively promoting chaos. You should be promoting and pursuing peace between peoples and stopping anyone that would threaten that peace.

F. See me after class.

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>>50020077
I searched for "crusader" on google and this was literally the first result.

It had some tiny text in the lower right, but that was easy to get rid of.

>>50020398
I think the troll is talking about the lawful-hot-dickings picture

>>50018329

It's characters have the same names, and both are set in Chicago. Harry is still a wizard. Thats pretty much it. That gif is actually fan made not from the tv show.

>>50015300
>Not playing a fighter class who's story says he's a fallen paladin for the sole reason of smiting suspected evil

That or grey guard I think they're called.

>>50020416
Oops.

I'm a moron.

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>>50009985

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>>50010010
How far you've fallen, brother. I would end your suffering.

>>50014405
>>50015585
Sauce?

>>50020654
If you fall from grace you're usually blackguard (aka anti-paladin) as it takes a lot. Sometimes you can remain paladin, although from that point you're an oathbreaker either way. You usually lose your divine connection and sometimes this even reduces the strength you've acquired while being a paladin.

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This is the pic I based my current Paladin on. Honestly, I did not expect to be playing this character for this long. Usually any group I'm a part of falls apart after a few sessions, but we've made it from level 1 to 9 now, and I'm still playing a loli cop. I don't have handcuffs any more, though, our prisoners escaped during a sandstorm.

>>50020924
That was darude of them.

>>50021199
And stupid, since we're pretty sure the sandstorm killed them.

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>>50021207
Then show me his body.

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>>50016257
never mind found it

>>50014994
You're damn right.

>>50009966
Before I left my last job I liberally hid notes that said PRAISE THE SUN everywhere I could

>>50010971
>>50011751
>>50012158
I haven't played those games in a long time.
I should play them again.

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>>50021235
Don't forget the other one.

>>50020764
One Punch Man.

Superhero parody manga (later anime) about a hero who managed to get too strong and now kills everything in one punch. The character in the pic is Licenseless Rider (Mumen Rider in the anime), a minor character who is a completely normal human who nonetheless does his best to be a hero in a world filled with superpowered beings.

Great guy.

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>>50021459
I believe you have earned one of these.

>>50022279
I will cherish it. I even put some in the ceiling tiles, taped some to the back of the cabinets under the sink, all sorts of crazy fucking places. they'll be finding them for years.
It took me almost 5 hours, and I didn't do a damn thing all day, but it was worth it.

>>50019856
Friggin' epic

>>50022682
Dark Souls is good for that.

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>>50022682

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>>50009893

It's all 'bout dat wisdom and nonviolence bruh

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>>50010227

>Blahblahblah I'm a cuck and if you aren't a doormat you're not a good person

Shut up nerd

>>50016412
Survival of the fittest logic may be LN when applied to oneself, but willingness to continue engaging in wars involving others that are either soldiers that would rather have peace or civilians that are bound to become victims is Chaotic Evil.

>>50023011
fuck me thats such a good read. and i read it through every time i see it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcmFJa9UcZI

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>>50009893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbLbT5lTr8Q

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>ctrl+f Bayard
>0 results

You disapoint me /tg/. He's the real life exampke of what a noble knight should be. And he was also a good ruler, the sanitary measures and buildings he erected in his city were quite the advancement at the time.
Dude was so based even his ennemies cried when he died, after inflicting one of the best burn ever to one of his former friends turned traitor to the country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Terrail,_seigneur_de_Bayard

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>>50023011
Not sure how related this is

>>50014405
A true paragon of Lawful Goodness.

>>50023340
why'd you spoiler this shit man? afraid of spooking the "Progressives" of this society?

>>50014405
I hope that one day Mumen is bestowed the power of Saitama.

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>>50009893
Like this.

>>50023340
100%!!!

>>50017121
Pretty much any of the Knights of the Cross work. They're all pretty damn awesome. That one scene in Skin Game (you know which) had me grinning like a kid and punching the air.

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>>50015639
>mercy is evil

>>50023340
AMEN AND ATTACK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpFgkZWHXqA

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Charge! Show them the wrath of God!

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>>50009893

>>50010309
Damn right.

A hero is just a man who knows he's free

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The only true way to paladin is to slay the saracen

>>50019032
This shit is why non-LG paladins are a mistake.

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>>50009893
He's a nice guy, but he just can't understand why people are so terrified around him.

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To dream the impossible dream.

>>50026529
And as I live, there is no evil that will stand.

>>50025688
>paraphrasing
Like you're CNN

Up until the very last line he's correct. If there is a victim, mercy for the guilty comes at their expense. It shifts blame from the guilty to those around them as if the guilty have no agency or free will of their own.
Of course, being Mr. A, he overgeneralizes until he's completely fucking wrong but the concept of mercy being unjust and unfair in some situations is not wrong in of itself.

>>50027785
>Of course, being Mr. A, he overgeneralizes until he's completely fucking wrong but the concept of mercy being unjust and unfair in some situations is not wrong in of itself.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK

My point was that mercy in itself is not an evil thing. It depends on the situation.

>>50027825
Well 3 fucking greentext words and a reaction image gave no fucking context for me to come to that conclusion.

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>>50027588
You're gonna have to do better than fear.
You're gonna have to step out of the shadows and fight.
And when they see your face again,
They will know what it means
To have fear dragged out into the light.

>>50027785
The problem is that his entire argument hinges on the concept that humans have free will, which is incorrect.

Not that he can help it, anymore than anyone else can help it.

>>50028012
>the concept that humans have free will, which is incorrect
So you believe that humans have no free will?

>>50028061
Yes.

If nothing else, all humans act in the way that is easiest for them, and will never make a "hard" decision.

The illusion is what is easiest for each person.

>>50028141
I really don't understand what you meant by that. I too don't believe in free will, but what does a "hard decision" have to do with anything?

>>50028141
>all humans act in the way that is easiest for them, and will never make a "hard" decision.
That doesn't make much sense to me, could you elaborate a little?

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>>50013058

>>50028222
It's the idea that if free will does exist, humans are still going to always make the choices that are easiest for themselves to do; no one truly ever chooses to do the hard thing.

So, for one man, the idea of staying longer and helping with something is a choice he won't make, unless there is some benefit that makes it the easier choice for him.

This man might look at the dude who always chooses to stay after and help and believe the man is making the harder choice, because he's doing something that inconveniences him.

But for that man, staying after is the easier choice, and leaving early is the hard one.

Essentially, in any given situation, if you know the man and you know the factors, you could always know what choice he would make.

This is how I love the succubus as a paladin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI7VeIA7ZI

>To love pure and chaste from afar

>>50028284
Yeah. All living things essentially act out of self-interest. It's just a survival mechanism. Otherwise we wouldn't have made it this far.

This is how I do it.

>>50028284
I think you're misrepresenting the idea that everyone acts out of self-interest. That's not the same as always making the easiest choice.

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>>50028060
No injustice is too small to ignore.

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Like a Shepard guiding his flock

>>50028141
>If nothing else, all humans act in the way that is easiest for them, and will never make a "hard" decision.
>Humans are rational actors
Yes because raising a child is very economically sensible.

>>50028141
>If nothing else, all humans act in the way that is easiest for them, and will never make a "hard" decision.

Most humans you have, will, or won't ever meet constantly make difficult decisions and step against the flow of what's around them because it's the decision of what they want, not the "easier" decision. The mere existence of Christianity a testament to that.

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When all hell's breakin' loose, you'll be right in the eye of the storm!
You got the heart, you got the motion!
You know that when things get too tough, you got the Touch!

>>50012202
Paladin = LAWFUL good.
Lawful good = can not be or support anarchy.

Stupid weeb

>>50028520
Yes because the sole purpose of life is to hoard little pieces of paper.

>>50028732
Tell it like it is, mon

Anybody got any good tips for playing a neutral good paladin?

>>50010227
>>50010267
Haven't actually played a true blue pally in a while, which saddens me cuz one of my favorite arch types, but I have been playing a Warlock who acts like a paladin to an extent. Former knight of a country who later made a pact her patron. Concept and certain aspects of how she's played and personality have taken notes from Seryu.

Is probably one of the most fun I've had rping in a while.

>>50028769
Any class can paladin as long as you have JUSTICE, RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND A GOOD HEART.

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There's a lot of these threads recently...

Still, I might as well do a repost. My current Paladin is a charismatic, self-righteous warmonger that advocates genocide as a resolution to any problem rather than trying to find a middle-ground.

He aims to kill anything that could be considered ugly, like orcs, goblins, undead, and so on. The gods made the world a beautiful place and these things are sullying it and getting in the way to civilized races like humans, elves or dwarves. So we need to unite and wipe them out, down to the last man, woman, child or whatever they have so us normal, good people can live in peace.

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>>50028788
You can also paladin by having a uncontrollable hatred of evil that you must rip n' tear.

>>50028788
I certainly bring the justice and the good heart, righteousness on the other hand... depends on the eyes of the beholder. She thinks it's righteous if that counts

>>50028922
I think every paladin I've played has done that to an extend, they aren't all about ripping and tearing but when it comes down to it

>>50028520
>>50028570
>>50028732
You mistake easiest for most logical or most beneficial.

The easiest decision for a person does not need to be the one that is good for them.

>>50015157
Isn't Pathfinder's paladin a chick ?

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>>50009893

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>>50028141
I mean sure if you render down every decision anyone ever made to the decision they were going to make anyway you could come to that stupid conclusion but it seems a very strange way of looking at the world.

>>50028858
That's not a pally, that's a warlord with delusions.

>>50029016
He's a Paladin fights for his ideals and against evil beings.

>>50029036
I ain't dragging this into a "what constitutes as evil and how far can you go to fight it" conversation.

I hear your forked tongue.

You will find no ground to stand here.

>>50029107
You need to learn about the real justice of intolerance.

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>>50027885
I have always felt that Megaman, and by extension, X is the ultimate paladin. They don't fight because they want to, they simply want make the world better, through a strong sense of justice. They recieve power from their "god" (creator), and use this power to find and stop those that would do evil, but they never try to kill, that is never their goal. They always stop short of ending the evil, not because they don't want to, but because the threat is ended, and even though it may inevitably rise again, this unwanting, selfless defender of mankind will always be ready, or another champion will rise.

>>50010010
You're gonna fall with that mentality.

>>50029014
Lack of free will states that every decision they're going to make is the decision they were going to make anyways.

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>>50028588
Oppressor...
Tyrant...

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Hello my friends! Is it time for justice?

>>50029522
Fun fact: Optimus never held a position of leadership outside of an already ongoing war.

The Senate were oppressors and tyrants and he opposed them. Megatron was an oppressor and tyrant and he opposed him.

Of any of the things you could accuse Optimus Prime of being it's not an oppressor or tyrant. Unless we're talking Shattered Glass.

>>50029322
What a useless observation, if true then it doesn't matter because you have to respond to decisions as natural phenomena anyway rendering the distinction pointless or wrong.

It's like saying that no matter what my D6 is always going to come up a certain value so there's no worth to rolling it.

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>>50029577
>Fun fact: Optimus never held a position of leadership outside of an already ongoing war.

And the role of leader was fostered upon him. He didn't want to be the one making those decisions but when a good chunk of your species can accidentally a chunk of the galaxy and half the rest of them want to use those guys for personal gain someone has to step up to the plate.

Hell when he quite being a prime he still went around doing good deeds. Then everything got worse back home (though it made for some damn good stories) so he has to come back and straighten shit out.

Optimus is a true hero.

>>50029577
Wasn't Optimus like a bureaucratic clerk or something?

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I Paladin the only way I know how

>>50029827
I think it depends on the writer, sometimes he was a clerk, sometimes I think he was a blue collar worker? But it does tend to be humble starts.

>>50029827
He was a 'data clerk' by their words, which equates to 'librarian' sometimes, 'person who transcribes political meetings' other times.

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The mightiest sword of all is the word of God and the greatest of all laws are the ones our Lord bestows upon us. You guys aren't even trying.

>>50023011
This. This is how we paladin!
Good needs to be awesome again!


In my fantasy setting, the largest (though not by much) civilization is a vast theocracy known as the Solar Empire. All but the smallest hamlets have a church of the sun and resident paladin. Churches feature huge stained-glass windows, and parallel in the splendor of Catholicism. The better churches of the sun feature choir boys/men singing this for atmosphere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m554vXiytY

The trappings (it's Savage Worlds) of all solar divine spells are that "unhindered sunlight" shines upon the paladin. He and a small portion of his surroundings are illuminated as though there were no opaque barriers betwixt him and the sun. This looks especially badass at night.

The vast majority of paladins can communicate through "solar flexus," a simple combination of Jojo-style poses that can communicate simple tactical ideas. The rest can be done through flexing their pecs in morse code.

I think that last one might have been too much, but the reviews were too good to cut it out.

>>50029827
>>50029859
>>50029874

In current continuity he was one of the few good cops who got into some shit for trying to do something about corruption in his precinct.

Funnily enough the whole mess he got into was because a crooked cop was beating pre-dominate the universe Megatron.

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>>50023198
Toppest of keks

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>"A ROBOT MAY NEVER HARM A HUMAN BEING, OR, THROUGH INACTION, ALLOW A HUMAN BEING TO COME TO HARM."
>"You have a soul. I don't. That means you're more important than I am. More worth protecting."

This is how I Warforged Paladin.

A Paladin is a man who, when told by the Crone that "The World is not fair", turns to leave before saying simply, "No. But I am."

>>50025688
Kill Mercy, Mercy is weakness. Only Justice.

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Even in death, I still mmphpmmpmph.

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>>50029853
The only right way, you mean

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REMOVE VAMPIRE

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>>50030966
If I ever become a doctor, it'll be because that guy convinced me it'd be way more awesome than it actually is

>>50023198
Holy shit.

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Saladin Paladin

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>>50016426
What are those stages?

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>>50009893
Outta the way vatican fucking shits!

Might work better as a Warlord.

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>>50031371

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>>50026650
Lay the Saracen?

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>>50010029
Came here to post Joshua Graham. Some people have excellent taste and are more punctual than me. Good show, man.

>>50029322

but as subjective beings we have zero way of ever knowing this. whether or not we """actually""" have free will versus just appearing like we do makes no difference to us, since both outcomes are the same from both an emotional and functional standpoint.

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>>50031461
Then I am on stage 8

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>>50009893
you want to know how to paladin.

its very easy

Know whats evil is in the hearts of men

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>>50034058
and never ever compromise even in the face of total annihilation

thats how you paladin

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>>50022077
I remember this thr-
>/16

>>50034226
A Paladin does not give up her virtuous virginity to a vile man for a kill, nor does she use a dishonorable method such as poison.

>>50034363
She didn't sleep with him, just seduced and then poisoned him when she got to his house.
There's a later issue where she explains she's celibate to someone she's stranded with on a planet full of dinosaurs, he doesn't know what the word means and tries to make a pass and she kicks his ass.
And a Paladin will use any means necessary to bring the vengeance and/or glory of the Lord.

>>50023340
Well...as an op-ed i'd say it is relevant to the 'paladin as a fighter' thing, but, kinda misrepresents Christianity as an argument because the whole thing was written by someone as a counter-retort to a retort he/she probably made in the 1st place. It's a more civilized, more controlled version of that navy seal-gorilla warfare copypasta. A hot-blooded Christian (nothing wrong with that) looking for a fight, and pontificating why it's right to do so.

Therefore, a good, contemporary example of the classic interpretation of what a 'Lawful Good' paladin is/should be. The writer of that screencapped OC, IRL, I mean.

but kinda, dare I say 'immature' as a Christian, because, just like what he calls the Nice Christians, he basically also has an opinion of what a Christian should be like and that to think differently was heretical. He has valid views, just like the Nice camp, but both are woefully polar, and definitely limited. I wonder if either of them even consulted with God in prayer before taking on the responsibility of 'rebuking' or 'correcting' their 'brother', in 4chan, of all places. Fuck it why am I even bothering. I should head back to /b/. Or /r9k/, my humanity immersion subroutines and stealth protocols are acting up again

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>>50026529
>>YES

>>50028141
Free will means freedom of choice.
Like your choice to be a faggot or not.
Or my choice of shitposting.
In the end, so long as you are aware of a choice between two or more options and you take one, regardless of your criteria for why you chose that one, then, NEWSFLASH: you have free will, anon. Congrats dude.

>>50028991
The example paladin in the books is, yes

>>50028284
>>50028453
>>50028472

Free will means the agency of choice, regardless of criteria for choice.

If there were truly no free will, then all of our decisions and choices will eventually lead us to being kissless, chicken tendies-eating basement dwelling cucks who wield untold magical knowledge normies cant even comprehend and are content on fapping to leaked OCs of Chad with that qt3.14 that could have been ours, but it was too hard/easy, whichever works for us.

Oh wait...

Seriously tho, the choice whether or not to wait even 5 seconds before calling the mods or even making a spiderman thread when a loli bread appears is in itself free will. Sadly, to be an autist or retarded is not, no matter how much your brain tells you that you're just pretending

>>50028284
Knowing what a man will choose or do does not remove his agency of committing to that choice or act. Hence, free will.

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>>50009893
Crotchety and middle aged paladin of Saint Cuthbert. Often has his patience tested by his companions.

>>50010267
The manga was good. It actually took its time wrapping things up.

>>50034999
>>50034984
>>50034817
Agency is simply an illusion.

Crunch all the numbers, determine all the variables, have a machine powerful enough, and you could determine every action a person will take in their lives.

Every decision we make is predetermined by the decisions we and those around us have made before along with the specific variables in play at any given moment, the logic behind those decisions is simply so staggeringly complex we will never be able to understand it.

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>>50030966
>>50031079
I still get mad whenever I think of Shiki.
>there are people who legitimately think this man didn't do anything wrong

>>50034654
Thanks bro. I agree on the "extremes" bit. Though sometimes extremes are called for - see Martyrdom of Polycarp, 7.2-3

>>50035086
Reductionist, materialist bullshit for which you have zero evidence.

>>50012202
I've always been interested in playing a chaotic paladin. I'd make them an agent of chaos working for order screwing-up carefully laid plans in the hopes that chaos will provide fertile ground for a better solution.

>>50028755
Depends how you define law/chaos and good/evil in your setting.

Some argue that Batman is LG. Some say, nah, he's NG at best because he operates outside of the law. But then, it can be said he subscribes to a higher law, on that supersedes the technicalities of community-made rules. Same goes for Spidey: the consensus is that he's NG, but the way he holds the ideals of truth, justice, and common decency is to some the very definition of LG. So define what your morality+order axes mean, then you can decide.

Classically, a Neutral Good character seems to be generally understood as someone who holds Good over the demands of law/chaos. While a LG char would arguably hesitate to smite the good king's corrupt chamberlain without sufficient evidence (and possibly a warrant from the king), and a CG character would shank that bitch the moment he turned his back, the good king and his laws be damned, a NG character would instead have the choice of implementing either or neither option, taking more of a pragmatic approach to dealing with the enemy, which is why practical characters like fighters or rangers are usually associated with the NG-ness. Especially rangers, who kinda operate outside formal law, but doesn't make it a point to spite it, either.

>>50035086
See >>50034999

Also, check 'em trips

>>50010097
Eygon is certainly an interesting fellow.
On one hand, he is a dick to Astraya, basically throwing her under the bus to get some fresh air.
But if you so much as look at her wrong, he will murder you.

>>50035086
>I'm going to base my argument on my ignorance of a topic
>Le free will is just a meemee
>Not realizing that what makes a single person who they are has more variables than the gravitational movements of a good sized chunk of stars in the galaxy
Yeah yeah, if we only had a computer that was basically God it could predict everything that everyone's going to do if it had sensors of every kind absolutely anywhere, maybe you would find that free will doesn't exist. But even that would only be because everyone would be too busy trying to power and maintain the fucking thing. Also, the very act of observation changes things fundamentally(source: I read a couple articles about quantum physics), so you have that to consider with this big-brother god-machine. And then you have another problem: Could you build a machine that could predict the previous' machine every action?

Your "logic" becomes a rabbit-hole very, very quickly.

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>>50035128

T-THEY'RE JUST DIIIFFERRENNNNT

BE MORE TOLLLLERANNNNT

>>50035152
Indeed. Though hopefully those situations necessitating extremes be few and far between

>>50035086
Ah, I think you're misunderstanding free will and control. While it is true that we have almost zero control over everything, even our own selves, that is precisely what makes it so precious that the one thing we have a say in is our own freedom of choice. Rationalizing that your choices are predetermined hence absolving you of responsibility or ownership over them is simply self-defeat and learned helplesness. Which was your choice, and not all the faggots and autists in this board can take that from you. That is your freedom. To willfully exert that freedom by posting it is, by definition, 'free will'. Cherish it, anon. For, like a veteran Navy man who won't ever use a condom during shore leave who have bedded women at every port of call and is eventually subject to a paternity suit, even if you dont acknowledge it, that is truly your own.

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>>50035503
THEY EAT CHILDREN FOR FUCK'S SAKE
WHERE'S MY TRACTOR

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>>50035503
You can't be a paladin and be tolerant of EVIL! We have tools to solve that problem, and anyone who IS tolerant of EVIL!

>>50025618
"I said I would come out to you. I'm out. In nomine dei, Nicodemus, I am out to face you."

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>>50035875
Perfect.

>>50009966
You will always be my friend.

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>>50016257
FOR JUSTICE

>>50013058
To be fair he generally tries to be the best kind of lawful evil in that he at least tries to accomplish most of his goals without being cunty mcbones III eater of dicks for no reason.
He provides a pretty good example of a reasonable villain.

>>50031387
Just started a paladin named Lowe Mitternacht after this glorious bastard

>>50036248
WELL MET

>>50036248
WELL MET

>>50028520
It is.

We have children to increase our social value and ensure that we are cared for later in life. It's basic anthropology.

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>>50013058

>>50036248
WELL MET

>>50034363

>Limiting yourself when it comes to punishing evil

Disgusting. All that matters is that justice is done.

>>50018104
That's a good way to samurai.

>>50036248
WELL MET fa/tg/uys

>>50034654
>as an op-ed...
what does that mean sorry that I'm retarded
Otherwise I agree

>>50035034
Did a paladin of Cuthbert that had a simple code: "Evil? That's a clubbing, son."

Then again, also did an aasimar NG Barbarian who was considered the Wrath of the Heavens by his tribe due to being made with his brother to act as judge, jury, and executioner. Firm believer of Right Makes Might, and somewhat harsh in what he would dispense as justice, such as branding a thief upon the hand with the Symbol of Kord. But, as well as harsh with punishment, willing to make effort to improve those he had to pass judgement on, such as helping said thief find a method to survive without having to steal, some trade that would strengthen them and improve their town/city.

>>50023340
I agree with parts of it, but I'm with
>>50034654 on this. I wish we had some proper context for the argument in question, because the response seems generic enough to apply to anything someone doesn't like.

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>>50038696
>Did a paladin of Cuthbert that had a simple code: "Evil? That's a clubbing, son."

Nah, my paladin's patience was tested BECAUSE many people wished he would just club the source of their problems. Damn kids and their unwillingness to metaphysically club the root of big societal issues.

Anyone know what a paladin does when their god starts to grow unstable?

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>>50009893

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>>50009893
Paladin/Monk

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>>50019032
>bitch do you even harmony

>>50039040
>club the source of your problems
>metaphysically club the root of big societal issues

Now THAT'S how ya paladin! If you can't take your club to philosophy as much as you take it to a evil skulls, how are you even doing your job?

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FOR GOD AND NOVOYA RUSSIA

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>No mention of the White Knight of Wallachia
>I shiggidydiggidy

>>50036248
WELL ME

>>50020654
>playing a fighter
The only thing you'll be smiting that way is your own pride.

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It was a strange campaign.

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>>50036248

WELL MET

>>50035086
This is only true if there actually does not exist a fundamental element of Chaos in sentient beings, otherwise known as a soul.

At the risk of jinxing it I'm surprised this thread has gone on so long without a Hitler.

>>50046975
Aw fuck.
Well, it was nice while it lasted.

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>>50046975
>At the risk of jinxing it I'm surprised this thread has gone on so long without a Hitler.

Indeed.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4obeqaxhRs

My Paladin is the Bilderberg Paladin shown in the picture in my post (you might have to download the pic and zoom in to read the small fine print text).

>>50046975
Silly anon, Hitler wasn't a Paladin. Paladins are primarily melee combatants, Hitler was primarily a ranged combatant. Also if his ability to evade Traps and Assassination attempts are indicator the man had an insane Reflex Save. That and his ability to talk to people? He was a Bard through and through.

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>>50047726
>That and his ability to talk to people? He was a Bard through and through.

He definitely comes off as being a bard in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ

>>50046975
AND THEN THIS FAGGOT SHOWED UP

>>50049871

How do you know the sexual orientation of the poster that you were referencing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAF1-aLqKY4

>>50049871

I guess you're not responding to me anymore. I'll ttyl then :-)

http://www.prometheism.net/library/jewishsupremacism.pdf