Warhammer 40,000 general

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First for Thousand Sons winning because they deserve it.

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Reposting since last thread was old.

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>>50003871
Do Assassins such as Callidus and Vindicare have the emotional capacity to form emotional bonds?
Do they experience friendship and attachment?

This may be a dumb question, but I feel compelled to ask because I feel as though its never been stated explicitly (at least to my knowledge).

Hey there /tg/, had any fun games?

I had a game today, dark eldar vs raven guard. Real space raiders vs pinion battle company.

Scouts outflanking turn one, each one that makes their reserve roll can bring in a fellow unit with them as well as ignores cover on everything. Still managed to draw due to my harlequins destroying half his infantry.

>>50003920
Assassins are even more weaponized than Astartes and marines are absolutely detached from humanity, they're almost inhuman so I'd say no as they've given away their humanity in order to become living weapons. In the case of Callidus its even worse considering they are constantly taking new identities and living false lives, at some point their emotions become tools of the trade rather than emotions.

Are the rules out on Magnus yet?

>>50003920
i vaguely recall reading the vindicares don't talk to anyone
whether they are incapable to form bonds is a different thing entirely

>>50003977
Nah, he's out November or December.

>>50003968
That thing about the Callidus might fit with what I'm writing.

Would it be feasible for a Callidus assigned to an Inquisitor's taskforce to create a specific persona for interactions within the taskforce? If only for the purposes of efficiency in coordination and allowing said taskforce to fully trust her?

>>50004010
To add to this, what of death cult assassins?

>>50004010
Yes, a callidus could perfectly emulate emotions to suit her purpose or assumed persona.

>>50004019
Death Cults are just zealots, normal humans that live and breath the Emperor and seek martyrdom in his name, but I assume they have normal lives and relationships when they're not training and suicide bombing xenos.

>>50003942

Man. I still have a bunch of Deldar I have to put together, but I feel like it isn't even worth it.

>>50003871
>Chaos space marines are actually surprised to discover that chaos is a downgrade and not an upgrade
This has literally never been canon. Chaos trades reliability for power. Daemon Weapons gain an ability to turn on their owner for increased strength and crazy abilities. Daemonic Possession makes vehicles more difficult to stop at the expense of safety.

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>>50003942
Almost all of my infantry got slaughtered in my last game. It was CSM vs IG and the guy was a dick and didn't even let me enjoy it.

As far as pure Orks go, how much more can i tryhard?

(1847pts)

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Orks: Codex (2014) v61) (1847pts) ++

+ No Force Org Slot (15pts) +

········Mek (15pts) [Choppa, Slugga]

+ HQ (250pts) +

········Big Mek (100pts) [Choppa, Gift: Da Fixer Upperz, Kustom Force Field]

········Zhadsnark 'Da Rippa' (FW) (150pts) [Warlord, Zhadsnark]

+ Elites (240pts) +

········Burna Boyz (80pts) [2x Burna Boy]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]

········Burna Boyz (80pts) [2x Burna Boy]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]

········Burna Boyz (80pts) [2x Burna Boy]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]
············Mek [Choppa, Slugga]

+ Troops (558pts) +

········Gretchin (67pts) [19x Gretchin]
············Runtherd [Grabba stik, Squig hound]

········Gretchin (67pts) [19x Gretchin]
············Runtherd [Grabba stik, Squig hound]

········Gretchin (67pts) [19x Gretchin]
············Runtherd [Grabba stik, Squig hound]

········Gretchin (67pts) [19x Gretchin]
············Runtherd [Grabba stik, Squig hound]

········Zhadsnark's Warbikers (290pts) [14x Warbiker]
············Warbiker Nob [Big Choppa, Bosspole]

+ Heavy Support (234pts) +

········Mek Gunz (117pts) [3x Ammo Runt, 6x Extra Gretchin, 3x Traktor Kannon]

········Mek Gunz (117pts) [3x Ammo Runt, 6x Extra Gretchin, 3x Traktor Kannon]

+ Lord of War (550pts) +

········Buzzgob's Big Mek Stompa (FW) (550pts) [Deff Kannon, Deff Kannon, Mek Boss Buzzgob (FW)]

Burnas and meks ride in the stompa for 5++ and 13 repairs per turn.

Traktor cannons are magnetised if they need to be Smashas.

>>50004071

What do you mean he didn't let you enjoy it?

>>50003509

Take a look at all the options available to Chaos Knights and Titans then compare with Imperial ones.

Lorewise, the old Citadel Journal mentioned one called "Abominatus "Despoiler of Worlds", a Khorne Imperator that was extremely resistant to psychic attacks, in addition to having a few more weapons than an Imperial Imperator would.

It also mentioned one called "Skylok", a Winged Imperator Titan of Tzeentch (meaning it could possibly have been an Imperator Titan capable of flying).

Finally there is "Augmenautus Rex", which required the efforts of multiple Titans (not limited to Warlords) to stop as it's Void Shields were incredibly power. Even after being taken down, it took roughly ten minutes of concentrated fire to fully destroy it.

>>50004052
>Xenos

They are literally a DEATH CULT

They are herded into battle by inquisitors so they don't go sacrificing their neighbours and relatives in the emperors name.

Thanks again to the anon who made me a random IG list. I think ive been seriously underestimating sniper special teams. Just looking at the numbers, just the fact you get six bodies and that rifles are straight up better than lasguns for wounding for barely 30pts is insane to think about. Why are they usually overlooked again?

I'm going to my first game tomorrow. What should I keep in mind?

>>50004042
I meant if she was working with the taskforce.
My reasoning would be that if her presence as a black-suited emotionally-detached enigma was found unnerving by ordinary Guardsmen, or even the Inquisitor's henchmen depending on their personalities, it could end very badly.

Hence, it would make sense for her to put on a persona for the taskforce to interact with, if only to make them more at-ease around her.

>>50004019
Death Cult are much looser with regard to indoctrination since they're entirely outside the Officio Assassinorum. Although they're "cold blooded killers" by rule and fanatically devoted to the Emperor, I don't think developing emotional attachments would be that uncommon. You could see one becoming close to their Inquisitor for example.

>>50004106
Have fun.

>>50004128
Fun is a buzzword, don't you know?
I'll try. I have about 7 hours I can spend there. With the local community, I might get one game.

>>50004091
Dude was a massive spergy try haring asshole. Was constantly trying to cheat and make up rules. Also had Land Raiders somehow climbing buildings.

>>50004071
He forgot the lube?

>>50003871
Do we have scans of the new IA4 tyranid book?

>>50004126
The "big" assassins generally aren't sent on those kinds of tasks.

>>50003911
Please drop the flakk. There are much better things to spend 50pts on

>>50004144
He didn't even try at foreplay top. 0/10

>>50004151
Thanks for the clarification.
Its been a while since I dug into the lore, especially in regards to assassins. In any case, I have some rewriting to do.

>Want to play more games
>work 2nd shift so can't play during the week
>get one day to actually play
>IF people show up
>Still want to spend even more money on one of my three armies
>still want ton spend money on another game

I think I'm going insane and the ride isn't over yet

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I modeled a squad.

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>>50004141

Playing an army as terrible as CSM will do that to you. You should have let him win if he didn't.

>>50004141
>Dude was a massive spergy try haring asshole

Man, that sucks. As a Chaos player, we're either really cool, or we're fucking insufferable. There's no middle ground. I'm sorry he was a dick.

>>50004198
Actually looks pretty solid.

Either trim that shield top, or paint it to be damaged somehow, though.

I like the heads. Where'd you get them?

How intelligent can servo-skulls be?

>>50004145

New?

IA4, Second Edition is pretty old by this point.

As in last edition old.

>>50004224
Yeah, I'll make the shield look real fucked up, it's the extra armor of a sentinel. The heads are over a few years of bitz bin diving. I think they're all different variations of pilots from vendettas and stuff. I would grab them because some of the bodies you see are these weird one piece flight suits.


Should I add the knife/water pack bits? None of my other guys have them, but I unno.

Serious question, why are almost all IG players such spergs? It's always them whining, roleplaying and either spouting memes or trying to look cool by forcing 40k into black twitter memes.

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>>50004278
>trying to look cool by forcing 40k into black twitter memes.

??????????????????????

>>50004259
Not at all.

They are slaved machines operating off a limited set pre-programmed responses and orders.

>>50004278
It's the leman Russ. Having more than 1 in an army grants +2 to autism for each subsequent tank.

>>50004286
When the exterminatus is at 8 o clock and its 8:05 xD
When bae etc. etc.

>>50004084
>Burnas and meks ride in the stompa for 5++ and 13 repairs per turn.
But the stompa can/will still die to a single turn of IG lascannons

How intelligent can a machine be before it's declared heresy? How much can a tech priest replace before he is declared heretek?

>>50004185
Just remember that Assassins are sent after targets. It's possible your situation might arise if it's what the Callidus needed to do to get to her target (And maybe the Inquisitor knows of her because higher ups said something), but she wouldn't just be open-endedly assigned to an Inquisitor as part of a broader Taskforce.

>>50004318

Your IG player is a suburban white boi or a nig?

>>50004259
>I'll try. I have about 7 hours I can spend there. With the local community, I might get one game.
How intelligent is a typewriter? How intelligent is a camcorder? Servo skulls genrally perform a single task and only that.

>>50004341
They're usually all here, take a guess

>>50004334
>How intelligent can a machine be before it's declared heresy?

As soon as the machine thinks on its own and without command then its heresy.

>How much can a tech priest replace before he is declared heretek?

Everything except his brain, augmenting it is ok but removing parts of your brain is radical and can be heresy, even the removal of your emotions is seen as too much in the eyes of many techpriests, I imagine a full blown cyberbrain is the highest of heresies.

>>50004278
>almost all IG players such spergs
Most of the IG players I know are enlisted. I wouldn't classify very many of them as spergs.

>>50004271
Honestly, I'd maybe add the knives, but the canteens aren't really necessary. I usually don't add them.

My army (that I literally just started today) is a hodgepodge conglomeration of various Scion, Cadian, and Catachan bitz in an attempt to create an army modeled around Houston culture.

>Some models wear bright orange reflector vests over a white T-Shirt and jeans and white-painted Cadian helmets

>Some models have full suits of armor tacticooled the fuck out

>Knives are all big

>Unit of Black Panthers with Scion beret heads

>Unit of 1836's in tank tops and tatted out

>Unit of skin-heads in armor and grey uniforms

>Sentinels are slate-gray with an HPD shield painted on

>Scions all dark blue with white cowboy hats

>All units use Tauroxes, and each will be painted in candy paint with chrome rims and big exhaust pipes

>Truck nuts made of skulls on each one

>Flag says "FREE BOOSIE"

I've committed to it. I have to see this through. I've only built two models so far, but I gotta do this for my city.

>>50004260
and yet
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-SE/New

>>50004327
How many Lascannons for that?

>>50004381
>Houston themed army

Oh cool, I'm in San Antonio. Also that's hilarious.

>>50004152
Okay cut them, now have no anti-air and 55 pts to spend. Advice?

>Captcha was a sign for Burnbutts Crescent.

>>50004441
Get less shitty weapons than MLs
Use point for an ADL

>>50004334
It really depends on the outlook of the Tech-priest in question, like adherence to the Imperial Creed. The absolute line is no creating unrestricted (SERIOUSLY restricted, like the Kastelan Robots use data cards to be allowed to shoot restricted) AI, no replacing the entire brain, and no Chaos bullshit or reverse engineering Xenos tech unless you are a High ranking Magos and do it in secret, then pass off your development as Divine intervention from the Omnissiah.

>>50004492
Why are ML shit? How should I kit out those Havocs?

>>50004518
Data cards are biological, that's the loophole, plus ridiculously strict programming.

To those crying about the lack of Chaos DarkMech and the new Strato-automata, remember you can take all this stuff as Traitors and then look at the rules for one Anacharis Scoria, then get back to us on that.
I can't wait for IA14 so I can get some 30k stuff for my Admech. ATM I can't start a full size Mechanicum force because money, but I can certainly add some new toys.

>>50004522
They can't reliably pen heavy armour, cant explode them if they do, can't saturate it with glances.

Unless you are Eldar windriders "versatile" means shit at everything.

>>50004538
Even then, we have decently intelligent cogitators floating about, cranial implants that can mimic certain Human functions and the Automata were considered non-Abominable Intelligence due to their programming routines.

I think the main problem comes from the separation of the Mechanicus's definition of AI and the real life definition of AI. Even Servo-Skulls would be considered AI by today's standards.

>>50004538
Precisely, and the majority of the Admech views them with extreme suspicion anyway, and that's probably justified given how many of my Arlatax seem to go Malifica on me :(

>>50004338
Oh, no, she has a purpose there, but "the patient hunter gets the prey" applies. She's in it for the long haul until the opportune moment. More than that I will not say.

>>50004522
Autocannon son

>>50004622
Thanks.

>>50004584
Okay, got it. Can't manage much.

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>>50004381
>>50004424

Is this another thread where Texas takes over?

I live in Dallas but am in Fort Worth this weekend, so, uhh howdy.

>>50004668
Post Texas Squirrel or get out.

>>50004677
Should I give my Texas Squirrel Terminator armor and Powerfists?

>>50004386
>>50004327
Youd literally need 60 lascannons

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>>50004696
>>50004677
Fuck forgot image

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>>50004696
>>50004708

Power Lasso is OP.

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>>50004696
>>50004708
>>50004744
>Not giving your Texas Squirrel Jump packs

>>50004522
7th Ed. Changes to vehicle damage.make single shot AP3 weapons pretty weak, since you're force to chew through all a vehicles hull points one by one to wreck it. Either you want more shots, and go after light vehicles and other softer targets, or you want a weapon with AP 1 or 2 to get those explodes results. ML are just the worst of both worlds right now.

>>50004744
"Pat'rick pattern battlesuits can detonate with the power of 50 megatons"

>>50004575
Aren't the Defiler and the stupid Dragon and such already the products of the Dark Forgeworlds swallowed by the Eye of Terror?

>>50004668
What's going on, man? Going to the TCU game tommorow? How's the AdMech?

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>>50004368
>Be 6'7 Melanin Enriched gentleman
>I've got 8k points of IG
>Mfw people are too intimidated to ask for a game when I show up somewhere new

>>50004853
Nice call man.
Not going to the TCU game, but probably going out afterwards for Halloween and stuff.

RadMech is going but slowly, just finished building some Kataphron destroyers w/ Gravity Cannons, so once it's not 90 and humid I'm gonna prime and paint those bad boys

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>>50004798

And Forge Fields, Mauler Fiends, Blood Slaughterers, Blight Drones, Brass Scorpions and possibly several patterns of Chaos Titans as well as it's theorized they can build those too on dark Forge Worlds.

Which raises the question, where are the Iron Warriors Shadow Swords and Basilisk at if they're still using this stuff?

>>50003871
https://mega.nz/#F!moBkkYZJ!1w7re9zwJPhGw-7j6zreCw
Blackshield
Watchers in Death
The last son of dorn

>>50004668
>Is this another thread where Texas takes over?

I mean, there's 24 million of us, and we do like to never shut up about Texas, so...probably yeah.

>mfw considering buy 3rd-party revolver pistols and using them as stand-in Bolt Pistols for my Houston army

>>50004871
What regiment?

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FIRES OF CYRAXUS WHEN!?
I already know, it's early 2017, but every mechanicum release that my admech are deprived from until then makes the pain a little worse.

>>50004925
Agreed, but for me, it's wanting to see the Tau reacting to actually advanced tech.

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>>50003908
It would be a pity if someone broke their backs

>>50004881
I'm glad I managed to spray all my Dark Eldar stuff on one the days we had reasonable weather. I just want the damn heat to go.

>>50004759
So all my lascannon heavy weapons teams are useless and I should only ever run melta vets and autocannons in blobs?

>>50004278
Yea! How dare those IG players...roleplay?

What?

>>50004871
I feel you.

While I'm not black, I'm very outgoing (I work in public speaking for events and sales), and have a loud voice. I apparently intimidate people who aren't bigger than I am, especially shy nerds that populate this hobby which I hate, because I too am a shy nerd with horrible anxiety, I just know how to hide it, so I really don't want to alienate anybody and totally get the anxiety

>>50004945
Your stuff on the DFW 40k page looks dope. Keep up the tormented hedonistic good work.

Are lightening claws worth it on 40k Cataphractii? Or is the fist combi bolter better? Or a mix even

>>50004949
Probably best to not even run autocannons in blobs if you want to be optimal.

>>50004925
Why? The more releases Mechanicum get before IA14 is more chance to get cool stuff. Yeah, it sucks but at least I can try to finish my warconvo before buying FW.
>>50004936
Hell yes. Admech relics are still miles ahead of anything the Tau have and I want to see their faces when they realise a few tall men in big suits weren't anything like what we can throw at them :).

>>50004949
>So all my lascannon heavy weapons teams are useless

I wouldn't say useless, just not the uber-threat they once used to be when spammed.

They'll get the job done, but you gotta make sure they hit the target and position them correctly to protect them from things that like to munch on soft Guardsmen.

>>50004961
Thanks, familia. I've still got so much to paint. I'm giving my wrist a break after the Haemy.

>>50003920
Yes, read nemesis and also listen the assessinorium execution force audioook

>>50004971
I think with split fire orders it probably is the most point efficient thing to do if I want to stuff all my tanks into a half blob guard list. 6 las cannons and 9 autocannon teams get expensive, especially when I'm already going to be fielding blobs, melta vets, and other assorted tanks

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>>50004960
>because I too am a shy nerd with horrible anxiety

Anyone seen any rumors or anything for Orks? Both a GW update and a FW update. The FW stuff is super outdated and the books are not even for sale anymore from what I see.

>>50002780
>Ahriman
>Bile
>dark mech
>giving a shit about CSM's needs
those guys are in it for themselves and nobody else. the dark mech especially so, the ad mech don't like to share toys and they're required to by the imperium, why the fuck would the dark mech, even more self centered and greedy, want to give anything but the bare minimum to CSM

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Fist of Medusa Strike Force
Space Marines: Iron Hands

**Armoured Task Force** (585)

predator (115)
-lascannon sponson

predator (115)
-lascannon sponson

predator (115)
-lascannon sponson

Thunderfire Cannon (100)

Techmarine (140)
-bike, servo, ironstone

**Stormlance Battle Demi-Company** (755)

Chaplin (110)
-bike

Tactical squad (150)
-razorback w/ tl assault cannon
-flamer

Tactical squad (150)
-razorback w/ tl assault cannon
-flamer

Tactical squad (150)
-razorback w/ tl assault cannon
-flamer

Devestator squad (145)
-2 lascannon
-rhino

Attack bike (50)
-melta

**Honored Ancients** (185)

Contemptor Dread (185)
-kheres assault cannon

**Honored Ancients** (145)

Venerable Dread (145)
-2 TL autocannon

**Librarius Conclave** (330)

Librarian (110) (divination)
-lv2, bike

Librarian (110) (telepathy)
-lv2, bike

Librarian (110) (technomancy)
-lv2, bike

>is this fluffy enough?

>>50005016
I'm thinking of adding autocannons to my guard squads just to give them the extra range. I mean, its my space-shermans doing the heavy lifting, and the two vet squads doing the midfield capping, so my regulars are doing backfield, flank-holding, and tank guarding. That means they don't get to use those 24" guns much (in shooting galleries at least) so some '48s might give them the utility they need to make them worthwhile. I also got the command squads so I can group up and use commands to keep moving about.

>>50005059
So many tanks and transports! 10/10 would play you with my IG every day!

>>50004949
Lascannons at least have the potential for one shot one kill. Missile Launchers don't have that.

>>50005059
**War Convocation**

**Battle Congregation**
Dominus (105)
-stasis field, digital weapons, infoslave skull
-scryerskull perspicatus
-eradication ray

Destroyers (165)
-hvy grav, cognis flamer

Destroyers (165)
-hvy grav, cognis flamer

Kastellan Bots (290)
-mask of alpha dominus
-TL hvy phosphor blaster, carapace hvy phosphor blaster

Aegis defense line (50)

**Battle Maniple**

10x Vanguard (100)
-arc pistol, arc maul, conversion field, digital weapons
-pater radium
-3 plasma calivers, data-tether, omnispex

Rangers (65)
-arc pistol, arc maul, conversion field, digital weapons
-arkhans divinator
-2 arc rifles, data-tether, omnispex

Ruststalkers (160)
-conversion field, digital weapons, dataspike
-omniscient mask

Infiltrators (185)
-Conversion field, digital weapons, infoslave skull
-phase taser

2x Ballistari (110)
-2x TL cognis lascannon

2x Dunecrawler (180)
-2x Icarus array

**Oathsworn Detatchment**

Knight Crusader (425)
-rapid fire battle cannon, melta, Stormspear missle

>it goes with this for 4k games, but I may mix up the war convo a bit

>>50005077
Autcannons do fine in blobs if that's what you prefer. I've seen a fair number of competitive lists go that way.

>>50004920
Motherfucking Cadians, best sculpts imo
>>50004960
I feel that, lotta shy guys in the hobby, which I understand because I'm one of them, but being so huge you'd never really get it

>>50005094
tanks and transports with PotMS
>I wish I played against IG more often, I always get stuck against eldar and csm for some reason

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>>50005038
>Orks
>Ever getting any attention even if their book is unplayable and they have the coolest fluff
It hurts anon

>>50005156
sorry, uncreator gauntlet on the dominus not scryerskull

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>>50005201
They get plenty of attention anon. Just not the kind they need

>>50004798
Defiler, Forgefiend, Maulerfiend, and Heldrake are all post-Heresy inventions. Unfortunately, half of them are shit. What I really want to see is CSM to stop following Imperial vehicle designs. If Warpsmith Lord Tentacock wants to replace the Demolisher Cannon on a Vindicator with a Baleflamer and call it the Burning Itch, who's going to stop him? The Dark Mech won't give a fuck, and, if the machine isn't already corrupted all to hell, he can just bind a daemon in there to replace it. If the Iron Warriors want to start bolting heavy armor and assault ramps onto their Rhinos, what's stopping them?

>>50005051
>why the fuck would the dark mech, even more self centered and greedy, want to give anything but the bare minimum to CSM.
Because they want the CSM to do something for them, or the CSM beat their asses and take it, or they want some piece of tech the CSM found/stole/created, or one of any of a billion reasons.

Bile and Ahriman are CSM characters leading bands of CSM, you contrarian moron.

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So is there any good way to play salamanders with temies and land raiders?

>>50005051

Well, there are cases of them doing just that.

As I recall, they contribute a lot to Abaddon or anyone else who can meet their requests.

Also, slaves and plunder are good enough reasons to share. For all their vaunted technology and knowledge, it doesn't appear they bother with gathering slaves and menials on their own.

>>50005577
TH/SS in Crusaders.

>>50005038
The only rumor I've heard is a long way off. Supposedly some time after the supposed War in the Web way campaign, GW will release a campaign with Orks, Nids, and maybe IG about the Octarius system. I heard there might also be a new plastic kit that can be built into either Ghazghkull or a generic Mega-Armor Warboss.

I'm not sure I believe it, but it doesn't sound too outlandish. That's all I've heard about Orks though.

>>50005706
well yeah, that I figured
but I'm just trying to find something to exploit in their decurion

>>50005201
>>50005284
They have glaring problems but I have still managed to play around those a bit and hold my own in most games. Pretty much like playing at a handicap most of the time.

It has been awhile since the codex and I am just hoping we don't end up as the guinea pig codex for 8th edition. Figure FW is waiting on an update before they update the Ork stuff.

>>50005201
>>50005789

A lot of the Forgeworld stuff still holds up pretty good on the table despite being outdated.

I think points for points, the Stompa found in IA8 is still the best Ork Lord of War.

Big Trakks and Gun Wagons are also superior to the Trukk.

>>50005051
Because they want slaves to throw into a big forge pit, and the CSM are the guys constantly going out of the eye of terror to get slaves.

>>50005038
>>50005201
>>50005284
>>50005750
Thine truths grievest me to wounding, Anon.

Fuck it; my Boyz are shelved & projects canceled until GW mans up & makes a decent Ork book. If the next one is shit, I'm selling my army.

>>50006613
Just don't burn them. :^)

>Custodes rules all over the place, in multiple formats
>still no Space Wolves or Thousand Sons Legiones Astartes
They're going to put them up online, right? They wouldn't just leave us hanging for the 4+ months until Inferno, right?

>>50006652
Space Wolves and 1K sons can just use the generic legion Rules for now :^)

>>50006652
when has FW ever put legion rules online

>>50006652
GW only released Custodes and SoS for 40k online, because they got tired of Carnac's shitposting.

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How do you picture tyranids in your mind?

I used to always think of them as purple with black carapaces because thats how I first saw them painted in the old GW shop on queen, but in the past decade or so I've always thought of them as just black/grey/white, with normal red blood.

>nid haters welcome

>chaos edition

So is the meme that you can make Chaos good without using chaos space marines real, or overreaction? I really like the look and the lore, but I don't want to cripple myself.

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>>50006613
I keep telling myself the same thing, but then I find a new bit I can glue to my Looted Wagon, or come up with a cool conversion for a welder mek and I'm right back in it.

>I didn't choose da Ork life.

>>50004311
*looks at model collection*
1,2,3,4...
err, you mean the FW space wulf primach right?

>>50006818
depends on the strain and where they are deployed

>>50004071
You played him again, or are you still bitching about something that happened weeks ago?

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>>50006818
Moloch

>>50006632
He's an asshole, not a retard.

>>50006912
The guy who burned all his Dark Elves was both.

>>50006818
like fucking cockroaches

>>50006925
Do you have pics of him doing it?

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>>50006818
Leviathan but only because of this dude's art

>>50007008
He posted a video of it on youtube, but I can't find it now. It was posted just after AoS became a thing.

>>50006769
When has there ever been a plastic box set featuring two legions without rules?
>>50006696
Furious Charge for Space Wolves at least kinda works, and they can always use World Eaters or Sons of Horus or whatever. Thousand Sons can use Word Bearers, I guess. Fucking Word Bearers.

>>50007008
>>50007029

Found it. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/07/must-see-warhammer-player-burns-army.html Excuse the BOLS link.

>>50006834
CSM are shit. If you want to play Space Marines that are evil and spiky, just use loyalist rules with spiky models.

The "Chaos are good without Chaos Space Marines" thing is due to two things. There's a tournament winning list that's 1/3 Brass Scorpion (FW Super Heavy), 1/3 Tzeentch Daemons, 3/10 Tanks and Planes and Cultists, and 1/30 Chaos Space Marine. For a good chunk of 6th edition, one of the meta lists was a bunch of Heldrakes with cultists.

>>50007043
>When has there ever been a plastic box set featuring two legions without rules?
Burning of prospero.

Forgeworld doesn't put legion rules online. They want people to actually buy the books when the things eventually come out.

>>50007093
That's really disheartening. Is that only for tournament play though? I mostly play casual with family and friends.

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Hey so I'm a total newfag at 40k but my buddy and I picked up dark vengeance and want to know what to pick up next - we're just sticking with chaos and dark angels having fun playing against each other nothing too competitive. More looking for good variety and value.

Preferably like to spend $200, each, max.

He was thinking deathwing knights and some basic marines maybe the 'start collecting' box. I was thinking the chaos start collecting box and a forgefiend/maulerfiend (not sure which to build) and/or maybe raptors?

Not really interested in tanks.

Thanks /tg/

>>50007073
kek at the regiments melting line by line
but why tho?

>>50007227
Cause he's edgy and has more money than sense.

>>50007131
They should be fine as long as your family and friends don't build power gamey armies. Try to play more mission types than just Purge the Alien (kill each other) once you get a better grasp of the game. That can help sometimes except vs biker spam.

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>>50006874
>I don't want to buy any more Orks
>Every single other faction is retarded or boring as shit
>M-more Orks it is then...

>>50007131
Eh, it really depends on how casual you mean and what armies. In the CSM versus SM match-up, you're pretty much fucked barring luck/skill. Pretty much everything they have is cheaper and more effective than your equivalent. This poor fuck, >>50007214, is screwed. The DA half of that box has a significant points advantage, and the CSM half is shit anyways. He's extra fucked since "stick small squads of dudes in Rhinos and drive onto objectives" is the only thing CSM do okay, and even then they're worse at it than DA.

>>50007214
I think gw has expansion sets specifically for dark vengeance

>>50007291
I googled those but they're not available any longer.

>>50007290
I get competitive play etc we're moving to 40k from warmachine (tho we haven't played it in almost 6 years now) but think of 40k more like a fun tabletop game we play vs one another than anything else. And we got attached to the 40k universe from the various FFG titles set there (RIP).

FWIW we did read about the power disparity between both sides in the DV box and took advice on balanced scenarios and ways to tweak it. Which would likely make a serious player like yourself cringe lol

>>50006904
Lictors are almost enough to make me start a Tyranid army. They're such a sexy model

>>50007214
The two expansion boxes for the game are like $200 each and come with some gud shit

>>50007291
>unironically recommending a CSM player buy a Land Raider
There's a special circle of hell reserved for people like you.
>>50007214
Sorcerers, Juggernaut Lords with Axe of Blind Fury, Daemon Princes, Chaos Spawn. That is the sum total of "good" CSM unitsthat aren't FW. FW adds Rapiers, Fire Raptors, and Sicarans.

>>50007290
>casual
We try to build a list that represents a "fluff" deployment, usually trying to include a variety of troops and building different lists each battle.

We don't go "oh, 5 drop-pods full of sternguard is all I will ever run."

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I went to the local GW to pick up my Grombrindal code for Total War: Warhammer. There was a couple in front of me checking out and talking with the employee about their armies. The girlfriend played Tyranids. Is the stereotype true, TG?

>>50007448
I'm picking up traitor guard

>>50006834
I have been doing well in my playgroup with my Nurgle CSM but that said my only marines are bikers and I am not sure if you consider Obliterators.

I tried Plague Marines but they just didn't hold up for me and they cost so many points.

I also Ally Daemons in though and can switch between the two for who gets Main and Ally.

>>50007381
>gud shit

DA:
Black Knights good
Flier meh
Terminators shit

CSM:
Cultists meh, cheaper to use the shitty DV ones
Raptors shit
CSM Termis shitty shit
Land Raider overcosted shit

>SM Captain
>double power fists
>jump pack
>artificer armor

I'm going to put this in my army because I like the idea. Will he be useful at all?

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>>50003871
>reading through the rules of the Stormbird on Forge World
>realize that it can be taken as a Lords of War choice for Chaos Space Marines
>mfw I can finally bring my Chaos Lord to the battlefield in an ancient, Warp-twisted relic that the Imperium wouldn't have seen for thousands of years because he's a goddamn Lord of Chaos

FOR THE DARK GODS

>>50007566
>CAPTAIN FISTO: DEFENDER OF THE IMPERIUM

>>50007566
You should seriously consider switching out one of those Power Fists for a Lightning Claw. It's not only ten points cheaper, but you gain nothing by having two power fists that you wouldn't also gain with a Fist/Claw combo. You also get the added benefit of being able to strike at initiative and AP3 with Shred when fighting infantry, which you'd lack if youj just did double-fist.

You're essentially paying 50pts when you could get the EXACT same thing, but with an added anti-infantry profile, for only 40pts.

But yeah, Fist-Claw on a Jump Lord is a lot of fun when it works.

>>50007619
Cool suggestion, thanks. I'm a stickler for detail, so I guess I'll just ask if I can proxy a lightning claw on to him when I play so I can keep the matching fists.

>>50003968
Then again it could always just be psychological-warfare

Rookie Question

When using green stuff on your guys, do you prime before or after applying?

I've got 2 calth boxes and a prospero on the way and I want to make a Blackshield force that incorporates bones on their armor (They revere the Void Whale(s), meant to be semi Maori inspiried).

Going to be gene bulked as well, so possibly tips on representing this on the models?

>>50007674
>>50007619
>>50007597
>tfw can't use chainfists without termie armor

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>trying to decide what army to pick
>love me some IG
>like really love me some IG
>but all that painting and that cost
>AdMech also exists
>and this sexy, sexy motherfucker is a thing

I don't really like Kataphrons, however, just from an appearance standpoint. Same with Electro priests, really. I guess technically I could also take Skitarii? Not entirely sure how that works. I worry about having to buy a bunch of Skitarii however, sounds expensive.

>>50007728
After. It binds better to plastic in my experience than paint, and you'll have to prime it again anyways.

>>50007728
If they're Maori, are you going for proto-Carcharodons?

>>50007769
What do you like more?
>Dying for the Emperor
or?
>Being heretics who like technology

>>50007674
You can green-stuff him some knuckle-spikes on one hand, and say that that one is the Claw. It'd still look like two fists, but also be distinguishable enough to be different.

>>50007769
>and this sexy, sexy motherfucker is a thing

I remember when that came out. It was mocked for being a terrible model.

I liked it.

>>50007808
I like them, they just look a bit dopey
basically beep boop ogryns.

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Is there any word on a new installment of epic? Do you think they would be willing to do it if some of the community stepped up and told them they could do it?

Also, why do people not think this is the coolest shit? Death Dealer's dope, man.

>>50007769
>this sexy, sexy motherfucker is a thing
The Admech player I know uses a unit of (I want to say) Four or Five of those giant rape-o-trons.

For those of us with no Grav and since he has an Iron Hands ally detachment with an Iron Hand Librarian the robots are a pain in the ass.

>>50007821
I also love Ogryn, so I guess it works out.

>>50007835
They're working on Epic, starting with Titans in a stand alone game based on them.

>>50007806
I like both really. Don't get me wrong, IG sounds the coolest, but it also sounds like a nightmare to pay for, paint and play.

>>50007769
>I worry about having to buy a bunch of Skitarii however, sounds expensive.
the rangers/vanguard are reasonably priced, $$ wise

>>50007865
>but it also sounds like a nightmare to pay for, paint and play.
Youre not wrong lol. Just ask that guy painting his psyker division.

>>50007865
you better love painting if you play guard. no matter what you do, you get fucked.
>painting armored division
enjoy assembling and airbrushing/highlighting all those tanks
>painting manned division
guardsmen for days

>>50007289
have you considered not playing 40k?

As in just buy some minis you like from a miniature range you like?
Painting stuff for fun can be really a very relaxing/motivational thing, especially if you are used to painting assembly line.

>>50007778
Thanks for the tip. That was kind of what I was figuring, but it never hurts to ask.

>>50007790
Not gonna lie I've thought about making them before.

These guys are a little different. I see them as disillusioned marines from a mix of legions that decided there had to be something more in the universe, and found spiritual inspiration in the massive void creatures living above and around them.

I'm going to build them as if they had very limited resources, with lots of solid slug weaponry (shotguns, autoguns), bolters will be very rare and typically reserved for specialists, and with minimal vehicles, possibly just the dreadnaughts in calth, and a few rhinos.

Possibly some heresy with Emperor's Children style gene modification, splicing the DNA of the void whale into their own bodies, but I'm still working on it.

Very fluffy, but I have other armies to play with if I really want to win. These are more of an art project for my wife and I. They may supplement my SW in 40k games one day if I want to see them in more competitive play.

>>50007913
Yeah, exactly why I'm looking at Admech and maybe even Marines (But I don't care much for most Marine chapters, so I guess it would have to be Iron Hands or Raven Guard/Raptors).

Problem with Admech is that I only really, really like the Castellans, the rest of them I find kind of meh and the choices seem really limited.

>>50007860
If they make it a 28 mm game about titans and not 15 or 6 mm, I'll flip my shit

>>50007934
I honestly have anon.
Don't get me wrong,I have fun with the social aspect of the game. I love painting models and trying out new techniques. What I hate most is the fact that no matter what list I build, I always get my shit kicked in.
But at this point though I'm so far into 40k that I don't even know where I would go from here. I've dabbled a little bit into AoS but it just doesn't feel the same...

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Fires of Cyraxus when? I want to see the mechanicus stomp the Tau (godwilling)

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Not sure if this was posted yet, but different squad names maybe?

>>50007448
I play Nids because it's the best way to fulfill my dragon fetish when people mostly play 40k over Fantasy in my area, and the only other real option is hellturkeys

Please don't nerf flyrants too hard gdubz

>>50008088
they're different names for the different types of sister squads. vigilator is all greatsword, witchseeker for flamers, prosecutors for bolters.

>>50008088
If youve got the book could you tell me if there anymore fluff in it that hasnt been released yet?

>>50008038
It's 8mm.

>>50008101

So we're getting differentiated squads?

>>50008101
Reminds me of Sigmarines.

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>don't enjoy painting
>want to play IG
Am I fucked

Also, which way should I build my sisters? I was thinking five with swords and five with flamers

>>50008094
Well you can fuck off and play Heldrakes if you want dragons, real Tyranid players want our hordes of Giger gribblies back.

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>>50008147
Yes. As if the Dark Prince himself had gotten hold of you.

>>50008147
You can probably find pre-painted Guard on ebay desu. I also find them relatively simple to paint, tanks don't need much in the way of finesse as a simple nature, though obviously time benefits it a great deal. Guardsmen can be assembly-lined pretty effectively and also don't need great detail.

>>50008135
In the 30k rules it is likely the squads will be separate as the "leaked" custodes rules in 30k you couldn't mix and match swords and halberds.
In the released 40k rules you can kit a squad out however you like.

>>50007835
The concept is fine, but those wheels are goofy. Should have treads. And the Lord of Battles is really top heavy. The 40k Lord of Skulls is a good example of the Epic aesthetic modernized. I mean, that's dated even by Epic standards. What is that, a Space Marine 1st edition model? That was old fashioned when I started 40k.

I mostly give them a pass because they are really old.

>>50008158

Despite this being the edition that punishes hordes.

>>50008135
>>50008144
I remember reading it somewhere, dont remember if it was the white dwarf or otherwise. but I don't know if you can just mix/match shit or if they're dedicated squads of 5 each.

>everything on Craigslist near me is Eldar

Longears fuckoff

>>50008147

That's what stormtrooper regiments are for.

>>50004208
Anon I had already given him chances. I tried to be as nice and agreeable as possible because I thought he would try not to be an asshole like the other times he played me. Now I'm pissed the fuck off. I'm going in to table him next game.
>>50004218
That's very true anon. The other Chaos players I know are very chill. It's just this one guy who ruins the faction for me.

>Own recast stormsurge
>See link related: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Tau-Stormsurge-Arms-Canopy-Conversion-Bits-3D-Printed-Warhammer-40k-/332014734658?hash=item4d4d9ecd42:g:UQkAAOSwImRYEQCQ
>Kind of want to buy a plastic one to make this conversion

Please stop me.

what's the best army building app for kill teams?

>>50008147
Just use the dipping method then. It works particularly well for guard.

>>50008199
Yeah that's kind of why Tyranid players hate this edition? That's what I'm talking about?

GW didn't literally come to our homes and take away our non-Flyrant models, anon, I was obviously referring to the rules when I said I wanted them back.

>>50005393
>who's going to stop him?

How can he add a baleflamer if they do not exist outside of helturkies mouths?

but seriously, I wish GW would make a $20 weapon sprue for Preds and Landraider so you can take those new guns they made up for tanks and defilers.

But that will never happen, So we stuck with hand me down standard Imperial patterns since us Heretics can't bear to commit Tech Heresy

>>50008243
I find it funny. People say it's difficult to paint a Guard army and yet somehow it's always the Tau player that brings an unpainted army. I haven't seen one Guard army so far that is completely unpainted.

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>>50004058
I always thought normal chaos marines were ones that were created as chaos marines

>>50008296

Because Tau players never had an interest in painting, just playing the current cheese for minimal effort.

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>>50008194
Kind of what I'm getting at. I like the concept and silliness of Epic stuff and think much of it could be modernized. The flaws are mostly age related.

This isn't technically the same war engine, but its obviously inspired by. The Lord of Battles is more Warhound sized I think.

>>50004871
Mah... literal nigga. I'd play my traitor 39th against you any day.

>>50007934

Well speaking for myself, as an Ork player with no other armies, I love painting Orks. I love converting Ork stuff, I love reading about Orks. I love everything about Orks.

Except actually playing with them.

>>50008430
So build a diorama of a Mek yelling at his grot helpers in his workshop.
Or the inside of a Waaaghboss' tent while he is holding council.
Or convert some orks you usually don't see like a Stompa crew.

There are other things you could do instead of painting minis for gaming purposes.
Just saying there are different ways to have fun with this.

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>>50008152
Just started a sisters army. loaded full of flamers and repressors. you can never go wrong with full flamer (dat overwatch tho)

bumping with more sisters

>>50008430
>Except actually playing with them.

Cajole someone into playing Gorkamorka with you.

>>50008471
why don't you wait 3-4 month for plastic space nuns to come out?

>>50008289
Like you said, just do an updated CSM upgrade sprue that includes sponson and turret mounts for Baleflamers, Ectoplasm Cannons, and Hades. Maybe add something else while you're at it.
>>50007376
I frequently play with a homebrew Chaos codex against other fandexes. I just don't see the point in lying to new players about what they're spending hundreds of dollars on.

Where do Skitarii fall on the tier list?

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>>50008581
I like to collect the classic models. although when bolter babes do get new models, I will definitely invest.

>>50008599
>just do an updated CSM upgrade sprue

The won't unless they know they can make a profit off the 200k they invest in the mold, though.

Which is sad because it would sell some preds and landraiders as well as set CSM apart from SM.

>>50008471

I'm 99% sure the dude was talking about Sisters of Silence.

Also, as a vet sisters player, flamers only go so far. Don't forget the melta.
Where did you even get repressors?

>>50004338
>>50004185
>>50004151
>>50004126
>>50004042
>>50004010
>>50003968
>>50003920
Ya'll need to read the Inquisition War series. Callidus DO get attached to Inquisitors and get emotionally involved. They also:
>Get psychic tentacle molested
>Screw Inquisitors
>Screw Inquisitors after shape shifting into a Eldar
>Get killed by Jain Zar
>Have their Ghosts get stuck in the Webway
>Have waifu lusting Inquisitors brainwash random women who look like them into thinking they are them
>Have their ghosts possess aforementioned brainwashed victim girls
>Get sad that the Inquisitor is dead
>But it's OK because he became a webway ghost himself and possessed the unborn child the girl the assassins ghost inhabited
>Get to eventually give birth to the Inquisitor and raise him as his own son
>None of this is Heresy since the Inquisitor met the Emperor in person, mind melded with him then the Emperor sent him along with his blessing.
>Also significant parts of the Eldar book of Fate have been permanently destroyed (along with their threads of Fate) because because a squat tore them out and made her a hat with them

The Assassin Me'Lindy and mother fucking Inquisitor Draco: Quixos, Czevak and Eisenhorn are amateur hour.

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>>50008685
getting used models isn't that hard.
It's called cragislist. and ebay.

>>50008693
>Assassin M'Lady

>>50008730
>Sisters
>ebay

You mean that place where people want $90 for an immolator? Also, I have never seen warhammer on CL.

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>>50008685
>Don't forget the melta.

That's what dominions are for. Outflanking multi melta with armourbane? yes. please.

>>50008610
By themselves, I'd say square in the middle.

With allies (War Convocation) I'd say they're bottom of the Top.

The lack of transports and flyers really hurts the army, as does the lack of template weapons and Ignore's Cover (Luminagen doesn't help much since it only comes into play AFTER a wound has been taken and doesn't stack).

>>50008732
Shewas a feral world savage named lindy, they tried to make her forget her name during her training but would always reply 'me lindy' so they gave up and renamed her 'me'lindi'

>>50008693

You're forgetting all the RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP RAARKpopswooshthudCRUMP
And all the "purity purity so fucking pure 100 years of purity basking in my own purifying pureness".

I enjoyed that series but Christ I could go on all day about all the bullshit in it.

Don't even get me started on the whole Numen thing.

>>50008763
>bumblefuck nowhere CL
>no models for sale
>not CL in major metropolitan area

>>50008784
thats pretty cute.

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>>50006818
I always picture them like pic-related.

>>50006904
Mah broodbrother, anyone who knows Moloch by name is a trueblooded nid.

>>50008786
Also two separate pedo planetary governors, one a mutant and both loyal.
Oh, and the navigator willingly getting ass fuckerd by a deamonottes tail spike.
Can't forget the buildings having sex.
Certainly can't leave out her sex torturing the squat for information.

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>>50008799
Probably my favorite picture of tyranids as well.

how is soul blaze not worthless in kill teams?

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>>50008117
That's just the instruction booklet for the kit. There is a little lore book called "Legions at War" that has a little fluff.

It starts of with 5 pages of backstory on the Heresy, Horus' rise to Warmaster, and the Treaty of Nikaea. Then it goes into detail with the Space Wolves Legion for 4 pages. Then Custodes and Sisters for 1 page each. Then Thousand Sons for 4 pages, then 2 pages of ads for Forge World and the Horus Heresy book series.

It also has some art exactly like pic related for each unit. There's one for all the models in the game I think (Space Wolf Tactical, Geiger Fell-Hand, Custodian, Sisters, Ahriman, Thousand Sons Tactical, Thousand Suns Terminator) and I think one model of each unit type is given a name (IE one of the Sister is referred to as "Magdalae Ven Allatos, Sisters of Silence, Snow Lynx Vigilator Squad") like how each of the Fists in pic related has in red text.

The path to becoming a Assassin requires that they be enrolled to the Schola Progenium, until they are hand picked to be shipped off to Terra for specialized training. It is also to my knowledge that only the orphaned children of worthy Imperial servants are allowed in. But for the case of Blanks being so rare, how are they handled? Are Blanks pretty much guaranteed a role as some kind of soldier regardless of their status?

>>50008786
>>50008835
Almost forgot: Getting wasted out of his mind snorting cocaine so he could have the proper mental clarity to decide if he should launch an Exterminatus. Every time you read a reference to Stalinvast guess what? They literally died because an Inquisitor was having a coke binge.

Why can't Doomrider get enough cocaine? Fucking Draco already snorted it all.

>>50008886
>How is soulblaze not worthless?
ftfy

>>50008902
Blanks can be manufactured if you are crazy enough, Czevak at one point killed a Grey Knight using a weapon that was basically a lantern with a focusing lens that contained the cloned fetus of an omega minus level pariah held in stasis.

>>50008902
Cloning is almost never used in the imperium b/c it fucks with the souls of those involved.
Blanks have no souls therefore the assassin temple use "stable" clone lines to create assassins.

Most blanks live shitty lives or are killed as babies.

>Play Militarum Tempestsus.
>Straight up, no allies.

I don't get it. People say Tempestsus is crap, but I can honestly say in about every game ive played I've held my own, ranging from 1500-2k points.

Plus, blowing up a Land Raider with a deep striking 5 man twin linked 4 Melta squad for 125 points is a hoot.

>>50009064
What's your list and what lists do your opponents run?

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>>50004925
I know your feels.

>>50009064
Yeah I feel you, I just watched our resident Tempestus player for the first time today, he tabled an Eldar guy. It wasn't like a super competitive cheesy Eldar list but still.

>>50009074
well we know his opponents are bringing land raiders so we know why he's winning or at least holding his own

>>50008888
Thanks for the info anon.

>>50009064
It really all depends.

Most of the time however:
Command Squad 4x Volley Guns
Command Squad 4x Plasma Guns
Commissar for day dere formation

2x 10 man scions with Plasma
1-2x 10 man scions with Melta
2x 10 man scions with Volley Guns

4-6 Tauroxes some with ML.

Everyone just seems to assume I'll either: sit there and let stuff get blown up or charge blindly into CC. They always seem a bit throw off when I drive my Tauroxes through a ruin to have 4 scions jump out with Plasma Guns that are twin linked, pinning and if the order goes off preferred enemy.

>>50009174
And a Command Squad with 4x Melta for kicks

>>50007769
Wait another month. We should be getting details within the next few weeks on what the holiday bundles should be which would go on sale around Black Friday.
AdMech will most likely have a bundle or two. last year the bundles were a skitarii battle maniple and cult mech elimination maniple

>>50008659
Yeah, a new Chaos kit would never, ever sell. Excellent analysis. I'm amaze they bother to make any new Chaos kits at all given how remarkably unpopular the faction is and how poorly its sales have been despite having such well-written and flavorful rules.

>>50009174
Wait what? How do you give a single squad twin linked, pinning, and PE all at the same time?

>>50008478
When I worked for GW, i have a memory of waiting around outside the warehouse before a staff tournament and someone yelled "hey is this the line for free copies of gorkamorka?". It was hilarious at the time. In retrospect, it was probably in my top 5 GW games ever made, with a few tweaks with regards to the expansion (much like Necromunda).

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>>50003920
LIIVI had the capacity to form emotional bonds

How stupid would it be to build this?

Chapter Tactics Iron Hands:
Librarian
Command Squad, Apothecary, all with Plasma Guns
Captain with Tempered Helm
All riding together in a Drop Pod.

>>50009447
It is a gimmick that could work provided you have a target worth shooting at.

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>>50007214
>>50007290

You're likely gone but I'm curious how much of a point advantage DAs have in the starter box, and what you think a good way to even out the points would be for the chaos player.

>>50003871
Are Chaos possessed terrible?

>>50008147
depends , do you want mechanised or blobguard ?
don't particularry enjoy painting cadian infantry neither , that's why i got 50 valhallans for my blob

>>50009064
the thing about tempestus is , they are objectively worse if you don't use an allied detachment or STC formation, 1 order for 2 squads is really bad as it's what gives the units their versatility

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>>50009510
God. I hate that ropey stretched skin aesthetic they insist on sticking all over Chaos.

>>50009620
The aesthetic works for some war bands, not for others

>>50004938
keep dreaming

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1. Do the guard have any kind of artillery flare and are there rules for having claymores and flares and the like set up around a camp?

2. Are the sneaky purple orcs still a thing?

3. does anyone know the size of a wyvern's crew?

4. does anyone have the link for the Chapter Master FAQ?

>>50009620
What's wrong with it?

Honestly I think the reason everyone points to these as examples of terrible models is literally just the faces, and maybe the pose of the legs a bit (but not nearly as much of an issue as the faces). A simple headswap makes these models actually look pretty good.

>>50009634
5. Can orcs be strangled?

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Anyone know of any resource packs for the chapter generator? Especially nurgle stuff

>>50009637
Are the heads separate bits?

>>50009634
i think the tank formation in IA1 has illuminum shells or something , fluffwise they definetly have them
claymores : well vets have snare traps but all it does is give charging units disorganized charge

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>>50009634
>2. Are the sneaky purple orcs still a thing?
It never should have been a thing to begin with. It stands as the most retarded 40k meme ever heard created.

>>50009669
That's a bold fucking claim. the category is so competitive...

>daily reminder that marines can eat brains to gain their enemies memories

>>50009652
I wish I knew how to properly open those

>>50009679
The thing that pisses me off most about it though is that people act like it's so clever. Blood Axes are stated to have a fetish for Imperial camo, so they try to replicate it. Why the fuck would they use purple?

>>50007546
>caring about competitive meta
>dude wants to play casual
got me dude

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>>50004871
Id play with you

>>50004871
Are you sure its not your ordinance weapons they're intimidated by? I can tell you that as a marine player I'm none too eager for my marines to get bad touched by a strangers guard army.

is the anphelion project book on FW's New section just a reprint, or is there new/updated rules in it?

does the corax white spray work well as a white primer or does it go on too thicc?

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>>50009634
>3. does anyone know the size of a wyvern's crew?
You mean beyond the two crew on the model?

>>50009786
12.

One to load one to drive and five for each tread for drive power.

>>50009786
Well I guess three with the driver.

>>50004871

I feel you man, though in my case it's that I can't stand anyone in my area. So many WAAC people, I just want a fun friendly game where you can have a laugh and fun banter with the other player.

Last time I played in the community I saw nothing but Riptides and Wraithknights in lists (as allies in different armies as well).

Heck, the last tournament in my area was 1500 points and people were taking Shadowswords and War Hounds in lists. Where the fun flavour filled armies that got my into this hobby years ago?

>>50008353
>All this effort invested in dumb shit I've never seen a single soul use on a table.
>zero effort invested in giving models to unit entries from codexes dating back decades
>zero effort redoing SoB, new city terrains, new craters, new ork deffdreads
Years of crappy huge models exactly as Stelek said there would be, no wonder why he sold his stock. Might be an idea to buy some now though, seems like GW are really heavily investing in getting their name back in to peoples mouths.

>>50009801
there's at a minimum a driver and a gunner (for the heavy bolter)

Possibly also a vox officer, since IG vehicles usually have them as their own thing separate from the driver/commander.

>>50009819
>vox officer
Separate from on the back?

>>50009819
>>50009829
vox officer is usually the hull machine gunner in real life tanks and i don't think it's any diffrent here
the guy at the back is probably the commander

>>50009816
They seem to have finally figured out that rules matter and they might want to make stuff the audience wants, but the long production pipeline means we're still muddling through the ass end of some of GWs worst excesses. 8th will be a huge test for them I think.

>>50009844
So likely four crew then.

Looking at getting back into 40k with some cheap recasts and I see admech are a thing now.

Can you combine guard and admech forces easily enough and how are the admech?

>>50009853
yeah that's what it looks like

>>50009856
yeah cross imperium alliances are really easy and usually very beneficial

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1. How rare is the Dracosian by 40k?
2. The fluff description of the wyvern (and the hydra) mentions a machine spirit, and not simply a we-think-tech-is-magic type machine spirit but something that's actually making decisions and targeting shit, but guard don't have access to power of the machine spirit tank upgrades. I feel like I'm missing something here can some helpful neckbeard explain?
3: any work been done on mole marines lately

>>50009920
>but guard don't have access to power of the machine spirit tank upgrades.
i'm pretty sure the enginseer can grant it to a vehicle instead of repairing one

>>50009847
40k really only got massive in my part of the world after DOW1 launched, until then it had mostly been just a game that the weird kids at school played. After DOW1 a lot of teenagers in my part of town started collecting some models here and there. So right around early 5th edition GW had this massive influx of new players buying up shit by the truckloads, they proceed to burn all their bridges and farm out the IP licence to any 2-bit chancer dev studio meanwhile totally failing to invigorate their WHFB line. Imagine how insanely popular WHFB end times would have been if TW:WH had launched like 4 years ago?

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++ Renegades of Vraks: IASoV - The Lost and the Damned (2015) (Chaos CR Vraks Renegade Unending Host) (1675pts) ++

+ HQ (275pts) +
Renegade Command Squad (275pts) [Carapace Armour, 2x Disciple w/ Lasgun]
····Arch Demagogue [Carapace Armour, Covenant of Nurgle, Lasgun, Master of the Horde, Power Sword, Refractor Field, Warlord]
····Autocannon Team [Lasgun]
····Disciple w/ Banner of Hate [Lasgun]
····Disciple w/ Command Net Vox [Lasgun]
····Renegade Chimera [Autocannon, Camo Netting, Dozer Blade, Heavy Bolter, Militia Training]

+ Troops (600pts) +
Plague Zombie Mob (60pts) [20x Plague Zombie]

Renegade Infantry Platoon (235pts)
····Platoon Command Squad [Militia Training, 13x Renegade w/ Laspistol]
········Demagogue [Covenant of Khorne, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
········Renegade w/ Command Net Vox [Laspistol]

····Renegade Infantry Squad [Militia Training, 11x Renegade w/ Lasgun]
········Autocannon Team [Laspistol]
········Renegade Champion [Laspistol]
········Renegade w/ Vox-caster [Laspistol]

····Renegade Infantry Squad [Militia Training, 12x Renegade w/ Lasgun]
········Renegade Champion [Laspistol]
········Renegade w/ Grenade Launcher [Laspistol]
········Renegade w/ Vox-caster [Lasgun]

Renegade Infantry Platoon (225pts)
····Platoon Command Squad [Militia Training, 14x Renegade w/ Lasgun]
········Demagogue [Covenant of Khorne, Laspistol]

····Renegade Infantry Squad [Militia Training, 11x Renegade w/ Lasgun]
········Autocannon Team [Laspistol]
········Renegade Champion [Laspistol]
········Renegade w/ Vox-caster [Laspistol]

····Renegade Infantry Squad [Militia Training, 12x Renegade w/ Lasgun]
········Renegade Champion [Laspistol]
········Renegade w/ Grenade Launcher [Laspistol]
········Renegade w/ Vox-caster [Lasgun]

Renegade Infantry Veterans (80pts) [Deep Strike, Flak Armour, 3x Veteran w/ Shotgun]
····Veteran Champion [Covenant of Nurgle, Laspistol, Melta Bombs]
····Veteran w/ Meltagun [Shotgun]

PART 1/2

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>>50009964
PART 2/2

+ Heavy Support (300pts) +
Renegade Tank Squadron (300pts)
····Exterminator [2x Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Militia Training]
····Exterminator [2x Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter, Militia Training]

+ Lords of War (500pts) +
Renegade Baneblade Super-heavy Tank (500pts) [2x Lascannon & 2x Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, Militia Training]


++ Chaos Daemons: Codex (2013) (Allied Detachment) (325pts) ++

+ HQ (155pts) +

Daemonic Heralds (155pts)
····Herald of Tzeentch [Burning Chariot of Tzeentch, D6 Lesser Daemonic Reward, Psyker Level 3]

+ Troops (45pts) +

Nurglings (45pts) [3x Nurglings]

+ Heavy Support (125pts) +

Skull Cannon of Khorne (125pts)


I call this "The most Annoying List I've Ever Made (tm)" Over 130 models on the table, psychic powers to buff the Baneblade, blast templates flying everywhere, 5 autocannons going crazy, deep-striking melta... what's not to love?

Which version of sammael should i get for my ravenwing. I really like how the jetbike looks, but I think the land speeder would be better for what I have.

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>>50009926
How does that fluff out? Enginseers can give a vehicle a machine spirit permanently?

Also is there any good fan/canon fiction featuring guardsmen interacting with their unit's attached enginseer?

>>50009970
we need rules about formatting platoon lists

pasting from battlescribe takes up waaay to much space

>deep striking melta
one melta? that does not count and you know it

>>50009620

Hmm, I just realized, with that posture, there's some potential for those to be turned into Meganobz.

I wonder if you could shove Assault Centurion arms on them....

>>50009669

It's a big galaxy, and anything can happen. Somewhere out there, a Kommando turns to the Ork next to him and asks why the stupid git is wearing a purple shirt.

"Coz it's dead sneaky right"

Next time the mob goes out, they're all killed except for the purple Kommando.

When the mob reforms, everyone is wearing purple.

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>>50009982
>Also is there any good fan/canon fiction featuring guardsmen interacting with their unit's attached enginseer?

Felicia Tayber from the Ciaphas Cain novels. She's not stereotypical AdMech though.

so whats out this morning lads?

>>50009575
They're alright, probably a bit overpriced to field, but with their vessels of chaos table they can get pretty nasty.

>>50009816
>>50009847
http://yesthetruthhurts.com/2014/08/developer-diary-making-big-models-work-in-your-miniature-game/
http://yesthetruthhurts.com/2014/08/where-games-workshop-leads-everybody-follows/
Ad nauseum. There is just so much evidence to show how GMCs don't work in 40k due to weapon design and movement rules.

>>50009847
>8th edition is massive disappointment
>doesn't fix most issues, massively overcorrects on others
>intercodex balance still abysmal
>still get constant shillppsts about how things are turning around and everything is great and if you don't agree 100% then you're just a bitter grognards shitposter that should leave the hobby

>>50009955
Maybe. But WHFB was on life support everywhere but the UK and Australia for years. With the General's Handbook AoS has managed to reinvigorate fantasy for them

>>50010068
>firegroup
>firegroup
No idea what he's on about desu

I got to go out soon so will miss todays new releases
anybody know what there is?

>>50010214
Burning of prospero

Fluffwise, what color ymgarl genestealers should be? Like the tyranid force they are part of or blue-indygo, as GCC indicates?

Are their any rumored Alpha Legion loyalist descendants? You'd think there would have been at least some of them that didn't like what they saw during the Heresy and just quietly switched sides during the second founding.

>>50010203
I'm not sure it was totally relevant to 40k, at the time of the writing of that article there was several producers going down the all or nothing, bigger = better approach and neglecting their bottom line completely. We still see it today with some releases coming out but instead of just giant kits like screaming bell and rat abomination we are getting things like stormcast eternals and those chaos troops.

>>50010140
I really havent seen AOS achieve anything here in Perth but whatever.

>>50010338
The Alpha Legion are loyalists. Your question makes no sense.

>>50010314
Ymgarl Genestealers are feral ones descended from those spawned by "Hive Fleet" Tiamet, and would have long since lost their original colouration and reverted to the Purestrain scheme.