>In the age of antiquity, the humans of the region that would

>>50001152
Cute couple.

>>50001152

I'd say it was just more SJW pandering, but it's the fucking Greek setting.

It wouldn't be Greece without a bit bum-fun.

Let's see if they include the old Greek misogyny as well.

I doubt it somehow.

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>>50001152

>>50001319
>but it's the fucking Greek setting

Man on man in Greece was reviled. It was all man on boy.

>>50001340
popular perception of Greece anon, not the real thing.

>>50001198

Please go travel a little so you can get shot.

>Mana cost = RGWU
>No black mana in sight

What did they mean by this?

>>50002513
That those two aren't greedy at all and will definitely give a reach around while they're spreading your asshole.

>>50001319
>getting penetrated like a woman
It's fine when you're like 12, but we're men here.

>>50001339
Deepest lore.

>>50001152
>Kynaios and Tiro, joined by their love for one another and for freedom
>for freedom
u/w/r, check
>for one another
green gayest color confirmed

>>50001319

>so triggered that freedom of creativity is tagged as "pandering"

>>50001152
I can't be mad, the Greeks were notorious boyfuckers.

>>50002746
Freedom in MTG is red/green. W/U is law and order, or blind dogmatism.
So it's more RG, check, gayness? Well WU is the color of Gideon and Jace who are back home expanding his Theros into Jace's city of guilds while the girls adventure, so WU being the gay color combo confirmed

>>50002513

Two people in love and that fought for the greater good.

>>50002771

WU people have have relationships, you know

>>50002771
I feel bad because you actually typed out a reasoned flavor-specific correction, but I was just shitposting, because this thread is bullshit /pol/bait

>>50002799
Eh, half of my post was shitposting itself, just a different shade of it.

>>50002798
Yup, like Gideon and Jace.

>>50001319
Actually, the greek didn't really like homosexuals, it's just that they had a different idea of that.

For them, the "bottom" guy was the only one gay, and the active is still straight. They even had a slur for the bottom guy.

>>50001152
See, this? This is a good way to portray a gay character. Two guys, looking reasonable for their setting and roles, that do stuff completely unrelated to the fact that they are gay. Not a single word about them being gay, because you don't fucking need to EXTRA DOUBLE REPRESENTATION STATE something that is said anyway, "their love for one another" is sufficient. You don't have to write about the woes of gay suppression or the amazing perks of being a cockgarbler.
Hell, they might not even BE especially into dudes, they just love each other despite the cocks,

That's how you should do this and write any type of romance anyway,

>>50002818
Yeah, but Theros is an incredibly shitty representation of Ancient Greece and Mythology in the first place and they have admitted as much...

I don't care about gay couples in magic but I care about the fact that they stopped portraying violence in the artwork.

Can't have violence against (human) females so better do none at all. Equality my ass.

ITT: Nerds trying hard to find a meaning in their lives by being angry at inconsequential shit.

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>>50002934
Nigga what? This is just from the Commander 2016 product and it's not done being spoiled yet. I can find plenty of violence both magical and not in Kaladesh alone, and it's supposed to be the "Le happy inventor's fair" set.

>>50002868

Lasting social arrangements don't exist in a void my kind friend. Context is important and shouldn't be stripped away.

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>>50003019
Here's one from Kaladesh, plus there's one that a POV shot of getting mauled by some kind of tigerbear thing.

>>50002934
It took me two minutes to find "Eliminate the Competition", so you are full of shit.
Also "If we can't show violence against women, we won't show it against men either" is pretty much the definition of equality.

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>As an oracle of Athreos, the god of passage, Ravos knew the fleeting nature of life. Even so, watching his beloved perish in battle was too much for Ravos to bear, and he struck a deal with the god. Ravos swore to help Athreos guide the dead to the Underworld in exchange for seeing his dead lover once each year. In the interim, Ravos plots his rescue and secretly defies Athreos by escorting his wards back to the land of the living.

>>50003083
That context isn't really important for that story, though. What's important is that they did stuff and that people saw them as their guardians. That they were lovers is more of an interesting sidenote.

>>50003096

Wow this is terrible, 5 mana + X creatures to destroy, not even sacrifice?

>>50003174
Black is very token happy in Innistrad/Kaladesh. You're most likely sacking a handful of 1/1s or 2/2 zombies to blow up a fuckton of their important shit and running over the rest.

>>50001152
>And then the Lich came and fucked up everyone

>Good Ending

>>50003156
>In the interim, Ravos plots her rescue and secretly defies Athreos by escorting his wards back to the land of the living.
Don't think I didn't see that edit faggot. Ravos has a girl.
>Looks like a young "Raid my asshole" type of Greek
>Has a dead girlfriend and is spiting one of the gods of the death

>>50002868
The Greeks thought the only true form of platonic, intellectual love was between two very good male friends

>>50001339
How the fuck did ANYONE forget that the the people who founded their fucking city and killed a god-king were actually pretty swell guys rather than reviled rulers?

Then again, this is the Greek setting. Herodotus-tier historians makes sense

>>50003096
I'm still not sure how this is an accident by any means

>>50003262
It's an """"Accident""""
You were hanging out with him, watching him invent stuff, maybe in his lab, and a machine went horribly wrong and stabbed through your hand and his arm, so he couldn't finish his invention by the time of the fair.

Terrible, terrible tragedy.

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>>50003019
>>50003096
>>50003118
The real inequality is that in all of these cards it's always men as the victim and never women.

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>>50003315
Of the top of my head

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>>50003315
>>50003338

>>50003338
>>50003344
would you understand why someone might consider a small cut and a drawn bow to be slightly - so very slightly - less graphically violent than a dude getting disembowled?

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>>50003396
Didn't say that at all though, you were whining that women were never the victim in cards, and I provided examples where that's wrong.

So, goalpost moving.

>>50003396
Plus magic gets that gruesome once in a full moon, so finding other examples that bloody of either sex is going to be rare.

>>50003396
Her wings are also pretty cut up, but the truth is: Violence against men is usually depicted more graphic. Yes, that's inequality and it's stupid, but it has been this way since for-fucking-ever and is not a result of feminism or SJW.

>>50002934
Off the top of my head
Stab Wound
Grip of Desolation
The eldrazi spell from Eldritch moon where all the walkers are getting tentacle raped
Triumph of Ferocity (jesus fuck, AR was 4 years ago)
Anguished Unmaking
Deadlock Trap
The spell from Kaladesh where they're detaining Pia

>>50003396
Yeah, I'm sure Grim Flayer just stole that dainty glove, he's only called a flayer because he skins animals, definitely not people.

>>50003493
It's because there's more men in media and such, so they can be cut up more. When there's like 15 men and 5 women, guess who's more likely to get gored, even without feminism.

>>50003231
I think that most men think this even today.

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>>50003315
>>50003396
> less graphically violent

I'll bite anyway.

> What is Doom Blade ?
Someone who get cut in half by a painfully-looking black bolt.

> What is Act of Treason (M12 edition) ?
Someone who's forced to turn on her allie.
> What is Cloistered Youth ?
A child who get possessed.

> What is Mirri the Cursed ?
If I need to explain this one, son, I'm afraid you are dumb.

>>50003493
It's because that's the way the world works, most men are naturally uncomfortable with seeing a woman get hurt.
Violent imagery of males iis emotive to most young men.

>>50001152
Well you're a raging faggot if you play them as your commander

>>50003594
they may be lorewise gay but that doesn't make the person playing them as gay as the guy who runs Zur, Narset, or Oloro

>>50003426
Sorry, I thought it was implied. When I said "these cards" I meant "cards with violence." I'm sorry if that wasn't as obvious as I hoped.

>>50003575
>doomblade
clean and bloodless

>the others
Do I need to explain the difference between misfortune and violence to you, anon?

>>50003315
After the Triumph of Ferocity scandal, WotC is just covering their asses.

>>50003396
Look to the artist's left. Hanging up.

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>>50003835
Ok for some reason it won't accept a URL as an image anymore. Fuck it, go look up Blood Artist. Dead girl strung upside down with blood pouring from her throat into a bowl.

>>50003685
>I meant "cards with violence"
And a girl with a shank wound/an angel getting her wings garrote wired isn't violence?

>>50001152
>2/8
THAT ASS

>>50003892
Well, they're certainly not the kind of card that you'd look at and think "that's a violent card."

>>50003982
The angel one most definitely is. Just because it's not Wolfenstein-tier bloody as fuck doesn't mean it's not a violent picture

>>50001319
Weren't the Greeks actually deeply conflicted about the homo lifestyle though? You could enjoy the occasional friendly buttsex but you were still expected to marry a woman and procreate. "Full-time" gays were shunned.

>>50004037
Hmn. Let me try and explain this in another way.

Every once in a while, I babysit my 5-year-old cousin, and when I do, he likes looking through a couple of my cards. He likes looking at the pictures and such. He's at that age where little boys are crazy about pokemon cards, ya know?

If, while looking through my cards, he happened to see Clip Wings, I wouldn't feel guilty. I cannot say the same about Victim of Night.

You understand what I'm trying to say?

>>50003019
>>50003096
>>50003315
All men, Women can't suffer from violence in the new Magic PC world.

>>50004206
Yes, that you think adding a huge spray of blood makes a picture more violent than someone getting a limb torn off because it's a fantasy limb because people don't really have wings.

It's "Showing people with guns in cartoons are bad, so let's make them laser guns instead" tier logic.

>>50004239
See >>50003850
>>50003426
>>50003344
>>50003338
and any card listed by >>50003503
And that's the recent stuff

>>50003338
>>50003344
>>50003426
All cards older than Kaladesh. From now on Women are immune to violence because it's mean.

EQUALITY YAY. SLAAY QUEEN. YAAAAS.

>>50003532
lol, reminds of one anon many threads ago who thought he was a swell guy tracking down a missing damsel

>>50004266
>Th-They're older than Kaladesh
>Two of them are literally from the set RGHT BEFORE Kaladesh.
That is some dynamic cherry picking shitposter-senpai

>>50004245
The logic isn't flawed tho.

Hitting a dude with a blunt weapon and teeth flying everywhere is just as violent as cutting a dude's head of with a sword and blood spurting out. However the second one FEELS more violent.

>>50003426
>>50003344
>>50003338

This disgusting violence against Women needs to be reigned in. Fucking Neckbeard Virgin Needs with their rape fantasies.

Disgusting.

>>50004351
YAAAS QUEEEN SLAY!!!!

>>50004206
This tells more about you than it does about violence in magic.

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>no one has posted the card that started it all

>>50004808
I will never uderstand how people see rape in this.
>He's going to punch her in the face.
>She's ready to fight back
>She even won the fight in the lore.

>>50001152
Kinda want to see a Mono-B Agnomakhos card.

>>50004894
Because Liliana is a woman and violence against women is VERBOTEN

Not matter how hardcore she curses your ass into oblivion

>>50004894
It got distorted as time went on.
Originally people saw domestic abuse, because when big bad abusive husband shows up, grabbing her by the neck and pushing her down against the counter is just how wife beaters do it.
Though I feel bad for the artist who was supposed to make art for a card called "Triumph of Ferocity" where a giga nigga sized man was beating a woman. There was no way for that one to come out looking good.

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>>50004808

That card is a literal rape magnet

>>50004277
His next move will be "I was just pretending to be retarded!"

>>50005026
Well I know that artist. Brb, got to find that picture.

>>50005026
>>50005049
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/aka6/463868/3-mana
Found it.

>>50001319
butt stuff was for the kids, frotting was for the adults

>>50001152
Aside from the homo theme, i really like the card's art. Colorful.
I like most of Willian Murai's Theros' arts, the guy sure can draw awesome chins and jawlines.

>>50005591
>i really like the card's art. Colorful

Other than the incongruous dark blotch of brown near the center, I agree.

>>50001152
Four-color siege mastodon with upside.
Interesting card.

>>50005730
Well, not everyone can be as colorful as the vedalken, I guess.

>>50001152
>>50001339
Can someone explain me why the statues are in different possition?

>>50002513
Get your shitty /tv/ meme outta here. It sucks there and it doesn't even makes sense on this board

>>50005937
One is viewing them from the front, the other is from the back.

Also different artists

>>50005937
Aren't they just seen from opposite angles?
On guardians of meletis we're facing them while on Kynaios and Tiro we're watching their backs.

>>50005937
>>50006173
there is nothing wrong with them check your eyes

>>50006196
There's, check your eyes.

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>>50006196
>>50006173
>>50006186
Are you sure?

>>50006244
One interesting thing. If they are benevolent rulers, the people will build their statues when they are either old or dead. History shows that only tyrants build their own statues when they are still active, alive and kicking.

Then again, i'm reading too much into this. The artist most probably got ordered to include the statues in the art.

>>50006316
Probably, just to say "These are the guys who the inspired the statues"
Then again, ancient logic might say "Build us some statues instead of pay taxes"
It's how Egypt got their pyramids made

>>50006244
You're right, the shields have been switched.

>>50006316
It only costs 3 mana you know.

>>50006316
It's mainly to reference the other card.

>>50005357
Actually, buttstuff was discouraged for everyone, and frottage, particularly thigh sex, was only permissible between an adult and a much younger male. Adult/Adult relationships were heavily discouraged and even penalized/criminalized.

>>50006244
OH SHIT THE ARTIST FUCKED UP

WRONG SHIELDS MOTHERFUCKER, LEARN TO PERSPECTIVE

>>50004266
Wasn't Chandra and Nissa in some sort of deathtrap on Kaladesh, or am I remembering it wrong.?

>>50003096
I just understood the flavour of this card. Guy grabbed some dudes wrist then stabbed through his own hand and the wrist. Assuming they can't just pull the dagger out (for bleeding or something), then neither of these people are going fucking anywhere except the god damn indian hospital for a while. You gotta sacrifice one of your dudes to make sure the competition doesn't arrive. If you just stabbed him he could just bandage it up and go on his business, but your goon is attached to him now.

>>50002781

Speaking of people whining about this, what are some examples of male/female couples in M:tG?

>>50006624
Damn, they take their job really seriously...

>>50001339
gay

>>50006624
>>50006650
Basically. To quote civ 5: Welcome to the industrial era.

>>50001339
Crossed swords

>>50003247
Wizards not so subtle attempt at implying that history is a lot gayer than we actually think it was, when the truth is that it's actually a lot less gay than leftist propaganda is desperately trying to rewrite it as.

It's sort of like how in liberal media, 1 in 10 people are gay, when the actual estimate is closer to 1 in 100.

>>50003019
>Frenzied Fugue
>Enchant permanent

Oh sweet baby Jesus YES! SO many ways to use this card. You can even use it to remedy permatap bullshit on your commander.

>>50007246

History is a lot gayer than we actually think it was, because most people think it wasn't gay at all. Get your dumb "leftist propaganda" shit out of here.

>>50005073
This is why I love 4chan. Nobody said, "bring me that hentai."
I thought it, but I didn't say it. And here is. Thanks, anon.

>>50007246
The greeks and their general gayness, to the point where spartan women would dress as men to ween their busbands back into liking girls
>Japan's way of the young where you loved other men because women were inferior
>Iraq's outlawed boyfucking practices that came back AS SOON as the Taliban was removed.
History's pretty gay

>>50002992
Is this post in reference to the people who think LE MAGIC CARD QUOTA DIVERSITY is a super meaningful personal and social issue, or the people complaining about Wizards pandering to those people?

>>50003493
Men are traditionally expected to be more likely to be in violent situations or to exhibit physical aggression, while women are seen as physically weaker and needing protection. Images of men fighting and dying in combat have been glorified since literally the dawn of civilization. Images of men in violent situations are often meant to invoke excitement and adrenaline - just think of all the violent sports dominated by male athletes - and when we see men brutalized by other men we often subconsciously consider it "fair" because we presume a man can and should fight back against another man. Images of women subjected to violence are culturally coded with very different emotional associations: predation, horror, injustice - upsetting rather than exciting.

You can complain about the double standard (with some validity - those same longstanding norms can arguably also be connected to issues of men's lives and wellbeing being considered disposable, of normalizing violence and abuse by and against men, etc.) but at the end of the day, like any other gender issues, it's tied up in a complex and murky mixture of society and biology that isn't going to be unraveled any time soon. And Wizards of all people isn't fucking interested in pushing boundaries or challenging its audience's comfort zone, they're just out to give the consumers what (they think) they want because their goal is to maintain a loyal fanbase while expanding their demographic (and sales) as much as possible.

>>50007991
> *History's pretty bi
is the simple truth. The notion of being "gay" or "straight" as mutually exclusive things didn't even exist until like the last couple of centuries at most.

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>>50008459

>>50004305
I disagree, I find the first one way more violent.

Is there any mtg card art which is as lesbian as this card is gay?

>>50004245
>Yes, that you think adding a huge spray of blood makes a picture more violent than someone getting a limb torn off because it's a fantasy limb because people don't really have wings.
Except that's correct, showing a fantasy creature getting a fantasy limb torn off by fantasy warriors is way different than, say, an image of a person getting mutilated by ISIS. Do you honestly not understand why a depiction of an impossible magical injury is different from something that people can empathize with because it could actually happen to them in the real world?

>>50007246
History was much gayer than we think because there are historians who act like oscar wilde was the first gay human. Ancient people's were a lot more like us than we like to belive they ate they drank they fucked.

Why do people treat Wizards like they're rewriting history when they do stuff like this? The idea that they're attempting ANY degree of historical accuracy is ridiculous. It's a fantasy setting, ffs. They just dipped into Greco-Roman mythology for inspiration.

>>50008770
>that post
the gayest thing in this thread so far desu

>>50003685

>angel flesh necrotizing
>clean

The only thing I don't like about MTG is that there are minorities shoehorned into every plane just for the sake of diversity.

Innistrad is full of blacks apparently? Is there an Africa in Innistrad?

Kaladesh is full of whites? Isn't it based off of India?

Every plane we go to just feels like America wearing a disguise because WOTC is afraid of denying any one group of people representation.

Nordic culture is apparently a highly requested plane, I can't wait to see how many black vikings we get.

>>50010258
>Why are there so many white people in this fantasy world? Is there a Europe in this world?

That's you. That's how dumb you sound.

>>50010291

Well is there? Kaladesh is an Indian plane and Chandra is white as a fucking sheet.

Planes just feel too small now, like they're just a city and surrounding countryside themepark instead of an actual world. If you're going to to have all these different races at least throw in some flavor text that tells me there's a different continent across the ocean.

>>50010258
>Innistrad is full of blacks apparently?
>No more than 10 black people in all 5 sets
>It must be full of them !

>Isn't Kaladesh based off of India?
No, it's not
The art is made to make us think about India

>>50003262
It's an "accident" in the same way that "no reasonable prosecutor" will indict Hillary Clinton for illegally storing classified information on a private server.

If you have enough power over a corrupt system, then the "facts" presented to the world are whatever narrative you want to spin.

You think that man was stabbed? The investigators all agree that it was a tragic accident. Case closed.

>>50001152
>Unchecked for generations, his privilege grew as he carved out a mighty empire.
is what they really mean to say

>>50007201
not
>docking

>>50007246

Ironic you say that. It's like you're trying to come across as a desperate hypocrite.

Also, a third of Israel's male population is bisexual. You're outright desperate at this point

>>50006635

Hanna/Gerard

Elspeth/Daxos

Jace/Liliana

et cetera.

>>50003594

And?

>>50005073

This is just petty

>>50006316

Theros has magic. Maybe statue building costs less overall.

>>50007246

It was.

But keeping spouting outdated statistics. Maybe reality will somehow bend to your rather sad will

>>50010258

Vikings actually had plenty of trade and raiding going on North Africa to the point that local genetics are influenced by them, so yes, there were black vikings

>>50004113
>>50001319
>>50001340

Greeks loved shota boypussy. They weren't gay, as people are gay nowadays. In order to be a citizen you had to have a family and provide for it.

Hell, old greek "gays" were more like what we think of pedophiles, to be honest.


ps: Buttbuddies is the worst 4 color commander

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>>50006635
>what are some examples of male/female couples in M:tG?

How fuckin' retarded are you?

>>50011189

>Hanna/Gerard

Oh, the tears. The fucking Dream Cave things was heartbreaking

>>50011189
There's Ixidor and his wife, whose deqth lead to him making a real doll of her named Akroma

There's Feldon and his wife

More recently, as in the same set as Greek buttbuddies up there's >>50003156 fuckboi Ravos, who's screwing over the god of the dead in a mission to get his girlfriend back, despite what anon was trying to bait

I don't get what's gay about it. Can't you just have platonic love for your battle brethren? Isn't that what this is?

>>50009375
You're trying to ascribe a modern and dubious concept onto the past, a past that would reject your definitions and your unproven beliefs.

The idea of an immutable, inherent sexual orientation is ridiculous, and despite decades of trying to prove some sort of factor for it, they've done more to prove that it's really just a sexual preference that's little different from any other bizarre fetish, and is in fact less common than other distasteful fetishes like bestiality.

Calling Oscar Wilde the first gay isn't completely accurate, but it's more accurate than you're willing to give credit to, because WIlde's generation was around the time when people tried to present homosexuality as an immutable, inherent orientation, when most evidence points in the opposite direction. He would be among the first who could identify themselves as the definition of gay that the left-most part of our modern world wants is attempting to put forward.

History had plenty of gay acts, but it's not even too difficult to argue that under the definition of "immutably and inherently orientated", there was never such a thing as gay people, then or now.

Under the definition of "guys who preferred fucking other guys", there's plenty of examples, with the overwhelming majority treated as sexual deviants who were mocked or even penalized for their behavior.

>>50011640
Didn´t theros also have the two rulers of akros, anax and cymede?

>>50011669
It's the hair stroking and calling them lovers on their statue card.
Without that, it really could just be platonic love, but Wizards is really forcing this as much as they can, which I'm glad is just in the form of a unplayable cards that can be quickly forgotten as a dark spot in their history.

>>50001152
What triggers me most is that it's a single card of two people instead of having them be two separate coupled commanders with standalone abilities. They wouldn't even have to even remove the faggy hairstroke, just make them stand out a bit more on each artwork to emphasize which is which. >>50011484 also triggers me for similar reasons.

>>50011239
>north africa
>blacks
?

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>>50012061
Ghana, Mali, and Songhai were all pretty much three versions of the same North African Empire made pretty much by blacks all three times.
For extra fun, the Mali is where good old Mansa Musa is from, the richest man to have ever lived.

Gentlemen, this thread has been terrible.

>>50011224

I mean the Statues do become Golems.

... I wonder how they get along, those golems.

>>50011189
>>50011640

>Male/Female couples are always tragic or short-lived

But why though.

>>50013207
THUD THUD THUD THUD

Mommy, what are the statues doing?

>>50010291
In what way is that question dumb

>>50013731
>The kings liked to wrestle a bit before getting intimate
>The statues do the wrestling part, but not the latter part
>This is why everyone thinks they hated each other

>>50011673
> the idea of sexual orientation being an immutable binary trait is a modern invention
> therefore gays are like goatfuckers and not publicly shaming them is thanks to the insidious influence of the Liberal Media
Whoa there, Mr. O'Reilly

>>50001152
>>50001319
Harmodius & Aristigeiton

>>50011686

Those were a political marriage, however.

Godsend implies Anax is into dudes.

>>50011673

Where do I even begin with the stupid?

- First off, I'd love some citations. Countless studies (and basic reality to be sure) indicate that sexuality is both inherent and beyond a person's control. Tellingly, your argument is an exercise in tautology and outright ignorance.

- Love how homophobes still compare homosexuality to beastiality after countless addressals of this topic. I suppose desperation and parroting are the air conservatives breathe, but still.

- Literally what is your argument? You outright contradict yourself.

>>50015233
Wow, you might want to consider looking beyond your empty convictions and realize that you're basically hoping people will be forced to accept your radical ideas on your word alone.

>Countless studies (and basic reality to be sure) indicate that sexuality is both inherent and beyond a person's control.

And countless ones with less of a bias have time and time again disproved and discredited those faulty studies. Hoping to conclusively prove whether its genetic or environmental still remains a distant dream for the left, especially since as more and more studies are completed the unfortunate truth they're being forced to deal with is that it's a mutable preference.

Basically, it's a lose-lose situation, because if they actually manage to prove that sexuality can be immutable and inherent, than there will be clear markers and ways to avoid and even eliminate homosexuals, who are undesirable in even the most open and accepting cultures. Why, if homosexuals claim they can't change and that it's not a choice, then the argument becomes that they would change if they could, leading to the conclusion that even they consider homosexuality undesirable.

Also, homosexuality is easy to compare to bestiality. Shares far more in common with bestiality and pedophilia than it does with heterosexuality.

>- Literally what is your argument? You outright contradict yourself.
If you're really that stupid, here's the bullet list.

>Homsexuality as an immutable and inherent orientation has been continuously shut down and has yet to be proven,
>It is ridiculous to even entertain such a radical idea without some measure of proof that it can be somehow distinguished from other fetishes like bestiality and pedophilia

Until you provide some measure of proof that it shouldn't be treated as a fetish, then it only makes sense to treat it like a fetish. This also happens to be the dominant opinion in the majority of the world, where homosexuality is criminalized.

>>50015543
>Shares far more in common with bestiality and pedophilia than it does with heterosexuality.

That's some mental acrobatics I'd like to read.

>>50015543
>Shares far more in common with bestiality and pedophilia than it does with heterosexuality.

What the fuck is this? This makes no sense.

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>all the gay shit itt

The faggot precon is going to sell like shit, isn't it?

>>50016242

I'm going to buy Super fags and the Cascade Ogre personally.

>>50005937
They're golems. They move

>>50015543

- Wow, you're so desperate that you're forced to rely on anti-intellectualism. Because you, the psychotic tin-foiler, surely know more than decades of reputable research. You do realize studies on this began in the 18th century, long before homosexuality was widely accepted, right?

- And again with the comparing sexual orientation with fetish nonsense. Did take much for the parroting to begin.

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>>50016529

>psychotic tin-foiler

Not an argument.

>>50016085
>>50016186
What's so hard to understand?

Gay sex is basically an imitation of sex performed by unsuitable partners. Even calling it "sex" is a bit misleading, since its more akin to mutual masturbation than it is anything else.

It's a silly fetish, but since being open about it enables gay people to engage in their mutual masturbation easier, they've been doing their best to adjust society to suit themselves better, regardless of what underhanded and even downright evil methods they need to employ in order to do so.

>>50016529
You are a defining example of anti-intellectualism. If you've got the evidence and proof that it shouldn't be treated like a fetish, than go ahead and provide it instead of dancing around pretending anyone needs to take you seriously.

The demand that people need to take your concept of orientation as anything other than hopeful word-play is ridiculous, because until you provide some measure of proof, it's only too easy to treat it like a fetish like it's been done for the majority of history, and even today is done in the majority of the world.

You sound like you come from somewhere where inherent and immutable orientation is taken for granted, which simply means you are a person who's been living for quite some time in a liberal-media controlled environment. It may take years before you're even able to engage in a debate about this.