Warhammer 40k general

>>49975077

First for Aspiring Sorcerers will always be bad.

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>>49975077
Oh god that is a depressing board.

Even us third world players have better things!

Do the Transcendent C'tan, Monolith and Obelisk ever see any use on the table anymore?

Can't recall the last time I saw either.

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Where can I find Eldar Storm Guardians Flamers? They only come with fusion guns...
How do I build one? What are they supposed to look like?

Do you guys ever stat your own custom squads or units? If so please post them, I'd love to see them!

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Howdy Guys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egp8nHY8XFs

How should I run exodites?

I mostly have interest in their worldweavers and their ability to control plants. (Dino-knights are cool too, granted)

Do eldar have access to daemonology? The idea of using the cool treepeople from AoS interests me, but I don't know how to run them besides as counts-as bloodletters or daemonettes.

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>>49974829
Sorta like a fusion gun?
It might be pretty easy to convert a Fusion Gun by adjusting the barrel/cartridge like so.

always nice to meet another gaymer

>>49975216

That's because you're not flooded by distractions, so you actually have both time and desire.

At least the Tau guy is primed.

>>49975216
Is that a monolith made from old CD drive parts and various plastic computer junk? It looks good.

>>49975274
The few exodite armies I've heard of or seen tend to use the treepeople from AoS/fantasy as your wraith units, use the dark elf or lizardmen dino mounts to be the base for jetbikes, and use the bigger lizardmen dinos as the other tanks. If this is something you want to do, I highly recommend using bits sites so that you don't rape your wallet too much

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>>49975216
Dat monolith..

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What do you guys think about non-traditional basing. Like how this harlequins army is on cards instead of solid ground?

>>49975371
I don't know much about the intracies of the modern eldar, as I haven't had to face them since 5th edition.

Aren't jetbikes and gravtakes more fly-y now that things are no longer limited to being skimmers? It's one thing for a raptor to jump and climb ruins, but a bastadon I don't really know how well that'd work.

Is melee eldar still totally trash against anything notguardsmen/orks?

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>>49975427
>>49975371
Yes. This was back in 3rd or 4th when apocalypse just got release.

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>>49975245
>What are they supposed to look like?
forgeworld has these for their corsairs

There is also an old (1990) plastic sprue with various eldar assault weapons on them, one of them being a flamer.

>>49975244
I do from time to time. I have an unbeaten 1850 pt list and since I have that. I can experiment and run whatever I want. People always fall into the t3 trap. Apparently they think all good armies destroy everything on t1 or t2. They get over confident and move into range for my t3. They usually concede by t4

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>>49975245
Also I just remembered FW makes "Eldar Corsair upgrade" kits that come with a Eldar Flamer if you'd rather money over effort.

I think you could just as easily make one like I said on >>49975345. The most important of flamer conversions is fuel storage bit considering the profile of basically every portable flamer in 40k features a canted fuel cartridge.

>>49975244
Also I use a monolith in every game even in my unbeaten list

>>49975476
Eldar are pretty scary in melee with their wraithknights and wraithguard. Skimmers are still skimmers. I recommend giving the brb and new codex a once over to see how much things have changed before you start building.

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So I've got a Space Wolves army. It's about 2/3rds painted, I love the viking theme. But the recent turn in the writing and the new models have made me loose interested in the army, you know damn well what I'm talking about. I considered selling them for a bit of cash and starting something else, but I still like the dreadnoughts, I still like the iconography and the runes so I figured I'll just make my own chapter, strip the paint off all the models I have painted and start fresh with my own scheme.

Might make a thread for discussing potential color scheme and lore writing shit but for now I just wanted to ask how to go about stripping vehicles like this land raider here. I got this thing years ago and for whatever reason I decided to use plastic cement for assembling some parts of it so complete disassembly is out of the question however I think I should be able to remove the roof just fine. What are some good tools/scrubbers for getting out the paint of tight places in the interior, dont like the idea of having a goo of stripped/melted paint in the inside of my land raider.

Also any tips for shaving off and removing iconography from rounded surfaces such as shoulderpad. Im going to make some what of an effort to remove the excess wolf symbols.

>>49975273
fucking English people
I'd tackle his ass and lol while he tries to stand up

>>49975572

That's kind of how SoB have to play. Weather out the storm of T1/2 and then mercilessly grind them down.

>>49975627
Calm down, motherfucker.

>>49975610

>wraithguard

You mean wraithblades don't you?

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>>49975442
I am thinking of basing my harlequins similar to this using the tarot cards. I like the idea of the solitaire on death and the devil and my shadowseers of the star, the sun, and the moon.

Sisters need to have a space marine stat line to be usable.

They also need to beat all MEQ in melee

>>49975754
Solitaire would be the tower/devil, shadowseer would be the wheel of fortune and death jester the tower.

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>>49975805

>>49975805
I actually think the only thing Sisters really need to be good is to be able to combined squad their units.

If you could hide death cult assassins in blobs of sisters or use crusaders to tank for your special weapons, they would actually be scary on the tabletop.

Do I have to roll to hit with Doombolt, or does it automatically hit everything in the path of the beam?

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Am I the only one who doesn't think the SoSs look all that good? Pretty meh compared to SoBs in my opinion.

>>49976011
The overlapping leg plates go the wrong way, unless those sisters are expecting to be attacked from down low.

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Painting a Psykana division to prescience all my big guns.
Help

Trying to make cheesy tournament list with chaos daemons. C&C for my list please

Daemonic incursion detachment

murderhorde
8x5 units of flesh hounds
1 khorne hearld on juggernaut with locus of fury and a lesser reward.

Command
fateweaver

Aux
Karanak

Cad detachment chaos daemons
2 hearlds of tzeentch on discs, ML3
1 with grimore
1 with paradox

troops
unit of 3 nurglings
unit of 10 pink horrors

fast attack
9 screamers

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>>49975442
>non-traditional basing

Unless your models are for display only, jacking-up CC units is okay, but not recommended; elevating shooty unit LoS is not recommended. Prone shooty units are okay, but not recommended; hiding CC units behind half-inch cover is not recommended.

>>49976097
>Prone shooty units are okay, but not recommended
Any reason as to why?

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>>49975573
>>49975345
>>49975564
Thank you!
But now that I see this I'm not sure if their metal special weapons are 2 flamers / 2 fusion guns...
>pic related

>>49976060
You're a Guard player. This is the painting fate you chose.

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>>49976097
they look no more elevated than normal harlequins

>>49976133
he plays tau and wants kneeling riptides

>>49976040
They expect to be punched right in the pussy, so yeah

>>49976011

Same with Custodes

It's the cheap cartoony way GW scultps all their minis now.

Some alternative models look way better.

>>49976177
I think they look great. Wish there was a helmeted head tho

>>49976000
Beams auto-hit everything under the beam.

>>49975245
no the stormguardian upgrade sprue has one of each. problem is they look very similar.

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My WIP on skitarii vanguard.
I wanted to do something extremely fast but then this happens.
WIp, and on top of that a color test. Ill highlight mor ethe pattern and maybe do a black outline(before the glazes)to give it some depth.
Also, i assembled my kataphron kit as breachers and not destroyers, because breachers looks a whole world better.
How much did I fuck up? they are pretty weak on the paper.

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>>49976244
There is a helmeted head, although I don't know how many are on the actual spures

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>>49976137
top one is a flamer
bottom is a fusion

Those are the pewter storm guardian bits, right? The set came with one of each.

>>49976284
the line pattern on the coat is pretty cool, but very subtle.

Also the metallics look very plain, but I assume you aren't done.

Since Primarchs are famous, would they be able to grab a Sister of Silence's pussy whenever they want?

>>49976369
KYS

>>49976305
thanks bro.
Yeah, i wanted it to look like some sort of circuit hidden in the cloak you can barely see. i will emphatize the highlights on the highlighted parts to look like the electricity is flowing there.
Also, the basemetal is basically done(photo's crappy), but its just the base. Details, edges, cables, roughly 40% of the metallics is yet to be done.

>>49976369

But of course.

>>49976388
yeah the photo doesn't do the metallics any favors.

What I like to do when taking a photo, is fold a piece of white printer paper so that it stands up on its own, and use that as a backdrop to reflect light onto the model, almost like a very ghetto lightbox.

>>49975754
I now want a 40k light gun arcade game called House of the Clown where two Inquisitors rampage through the Black Library.

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>>49975805
That would make them boring and they're usable as is, they don't really need any fix for their stats they just need to have some minor gear adjustments depending on the specific sisters unit.

>>49975921
That's actually not bad, it would be kind of cool to have a wonky mixed setup like BT crusader squads but for sisters.

>>49976250
Thanks!

>>49975244
My friend used a C'tan in a game once. Sternguard shot him down so hard he never used it again.

One game he brought three Monoliths against me. all three got lascannoned the turn they dropped.

Never seen an Obelisk but I have grav-cannons now so good luck with that.

>>49976060
>he actually went out and bought that many psykers rather than converting them
THE
MAD
MAN

>>49976519
>her boobs are lop-sided and she has a monobrow

>>49976566

Can't help it. I'm autistic about WYSIWYG.
I have no problem with them being metal either, my troopers are proud Vostroyans.

>>49976627
>Let's see how many tits get slapped off you when you go try to fuck with daemons

>>49976177
>It's the cheap cartoony way GW scultps all their minis now.

i don't know about that, I think that the new Sylvaneth sculpts for AoS are gorgeous for example. I just feel like aside from the tits this is very ho hum fantasy fullplate.

>>49976628
How are you not autistic about having a fucking mass of the exact same guy and pretending it's a ragtag mish mash of psykers from all over the Imperium

>>49976628
Combine an IG kit with a flagellant kit.

>>49976774

It's easy if you know how to paint them, even if there's only 3 sculpts.

Can a allied GK detachment smooth out some of the guard's flaws?

Can hordes of guardsmen smooth out the GK's flaws?

>>49976959

>Guardsmen allying with GK

It was nice to know you, lads.

>>49976880
It just bugs me personally a lot more, especially with a lot of the older monopose metals and their recent resin remakes on some thinsgs. It just has such flat personality.

>>49976959
GK lack strong ranged shooting, which guard have aplenty.

Guard can bring some psychic gimmicks but GK's bring the real buffs (and normal SM librarius conclaves help too).

Also, priests giving termies a rerollable 2+/5++ in combat is hilarious.

>>49976628
might have been worth picking up the old necromunda wyrds to keep with the 2e theme

not sure how rare those guys are these days, though

>>49975612
Read scars, then do white scars. They're like less shitty space yiffs.

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I've been to a number of tournaments as a Dark Eldar player. It didn't work very well but after smashing my head against the Coven's codex a few times and learning to play to objectives I managed to hit the middle of the pack at events fairly regularly. However, I think I've strung my DE out as far as they're gonna go. I'm starting to take the competitive scene more seriously now and I've begun expanding my Eldar collection. My question is, what is this "superfriends" list I keep hearing about, what does it do, and how do you play against it? I've honestly never seen one run.

And yes I know I'm a tourney fag but hey someone has to represent DE in the circuit.

How easy are the new Leman Russ kits to magnetize (Only have kits from 15 or so years ago)?

Ideally, I'd like to be able to easy switch out sponson weapons, sponson carriage, hull weapon, and turret. Is that possible?

>>49977061
Eldar can flat-out remove a unit without difficulty by deepstriking an archon with a webway portal right next to it and spraying it with d-scythes, and have the broken piece of shit that is the Wraithknight. They've also got the best psykers outside of librarius conclaves. Deldar also have assault transports that eldar lack, if you feel the need for assaulting in seventh ed

Blog post time.

So I emailed GW and I got a quick reply which basically said

>We send out the subscriber issues a week early, but they don't always arrive due to postage shit, if you don't get yours by 2/11/2016, ask and we'll send you another

Which was a helpful and quick reply. But it confirms if you subscribe, you do get it a week early. Or at least, you SHOULD do. My post is wank. I think it's just my cuntish post office, my post arrives at 4pm nowadays.

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>>49977042
I've already got an idea for my homebrew chapter and besides like I said, I'm not selling the space wolves models, I'm stripping and repainting them with some minor conversions here and there. Would be kind of weird to just repaint them as white scars.

All I've got set in stone is the color scheme. I'm writing them as a chapter established on an Ag world set in old traditions. As the world is nearby a pretty well off forgeworld they come in regular contact with the mechanicus and have adopted some of their doctrines mainly the worship of the machine god, calling it Ymir instead (you might see where I'm going with this). The chapter fields a large number of dreadnoughts seeing being interred in one as a great honor as they are "reborn" as an avatar of the omnissiah/Ymir called Jotunn (giant).

Other details I'm still hammering out but hey, I dig the norse theme, I love the rules for the dreadnoughts I just hate the wolf shit and the current fluff so rather than ditching the army outright I'll just make more suitable for me.

>>49977219
Sounds solid enough. Go grab the masterclass FW books from the mega, it should help. As a crazy chaos fucker who has done similar, the best solution I've found for removing symbols, you have to remove them with sand paper, a hobby knife, and a dremel, then apply greenstuff to reshape the armor to have the right surfaces. I wish you the best of luck with your dudes

>>49977177
>best psykers
>laughingtzeentchdaemons.jpg

>>49977138
Its super easy, most of that doesn't even need magnets. The sponson and hull weapons just slide in so don't glue them in and you have a nice friction fit, the actual sponson block can be easily magnetized too. The turret requires a bit of time and work, you can easily find an image guide online

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>>49977138
Not the easiest, particularly the turret. But doable. Keep in mind that the Russ variants are split across two physical kits. So even with magnetization you won't get every option.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297605-tutorial-magnetisation/

>>49977290
Thanks this is a project I'm not going to have the time to really start until this winter

Might make a thread about it later on when I get more of the lore hammered out for ideas on characters and symbolism

>>49977300
Farseers leave the worst tzeentchy witch trickery shit far behind, what with their runes and 1wc invisibility and ghosthelms

>>49977177
I can't target invisible units with D-scythes though, and D-scythes aren't meta.

Question. Death Watch is a Chapter right? So 1,000 Space Marines? So 1,000 Space Marines spread between how many Fortresses? Or is each one consider 1,000 strong? If not, what is the maximum you can expect to see on the battle field? I know one of the Einsenhorn books mentions 60 going down to help, so is 100 the most, you think?

Also, when I was reading the Beast Arises book and Korland goes "Here are my demands, 1,000 troops, answer to space marines, only I can disband them." totally ruined what was going to happen, as soon as that was said, you knew he'd splat

>>49977464
>Question. Death Watch is a Chapter right? So 1,000 Space Marines?
Their numbers are probably all over the place, as their recruiting isn't normal.

I wouldn't expect to see more than 100 in any single theater, unless it was something huge like Armageddon. They're usually spread out in groups of 5-10, handling shit as some kind of grimdark XCOM.

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>>49975077
>feel like we need to step up our terrain game
>see shit like OP
Suddenly it's not all so bad

What should I get next for my daemons? Here's what I have:

Lord of Change
3x Daemon Prince
Changeling
Tzerald on Disc
3 flamers
4 counts-as exalted flamers
3 screamers (maybe 5)
38 Pink Horrors (2 music, 2 banner)
19 bloodetters (1 banner 1 music)
10 daemonettes (not finished yet)

>>49977761
Plague Drones

>>49977921

I was thinking about the Nurgle SC! Box, actually.

I want to make movement trays for my green tide
Does anyone have any suggestions?

>>49977708
dats a smashing squiggoth ye've got dere. Lets strap sum dakka onnit

>>49977954
green tide as in 40k?

You can get lasered regiment bases for round based miniatures.
War of the ring used them and you can use them in a few other systems too.

There is a ebay seller situated in spain that is fairly cheap and a few online stores specialized in this stuff where you can get something like this.

Thrall Wizards used to let you cast an additional spell each turn, but that's not much of a benefit in the current psychic system. What should they do instead? Reduce WC cost? Grant WC? Increase range? Increase strength?

>>49977993
Yes, the 40k green tide. A shit ton of boyz.
I'm looking for something I can make myself, to make it cheep.

>>49978221
yeah seriously, making it cheaper yourself than buying the mdf lasered things is almost not possible. At least better.

You can always just make a regular tray, i.e. square and glue some borders on so the minis don't slide off.


Seriously just google mdf bases. They only cost 3 or 4 bucks.

>>49978221
I used to use the bottoms of the old army boxes as movement trays for my goblin army.

Before Age of Sigmar decided to shit all over the fantasy genre.

>>49978275
I'm thinking of using a drill press, 1 inch drill bit an some MDF.

>>49978295
You have my condolences.

Looking for suggestions to start a 2nd army. Currently I have a large collection of Orks.

>>49978221
An Ork Player at my shop used Basa(?) Wood (its really thin) and a shit ton of hot glue.

He cut the wood into thin bean shapes that each held 10 boyz then layed the hot glue and quickly stamped a circle into the glue with something (I think he said he hot glues a coin to a bolt)

After that he primed them up and made it look muddy just like his orks' bases and boots.

>>49978344
Chaos

>>49978344
Fill this out:

What type of game are you looking to play?

What tactics appeal to you?
(i.e Gun Line, High Mobility, Artillery Heavy etc)

Any current factions in the running?
(You have to have something in mind model wise)

What is your meta like?

>>49978336
>I'm thinking of using a drill press, 1 inch drill bit an some MDF.
Yeah that'd work.

But you can trust me when I say you can get them super cheap.
First thing I found on google: bases for 50 miniatures at 25 dollars us.

If you consider the time it takes to drill all those hole by hand and laminating the things before cleaning them up, I'd definitely rather buy them.

And this isn't the cheapest thing like this.

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>>49977976
We didn't have the Ork codex handy so we removed it from play. My DC squadie was left somewhat confused as to how Horus became so big.

Is terminator armor or artificer armor better for a non-bike Iron Hands HQ Chapter Master?

>>49978454
Artificer armor is better because it lets you sweep and you can keep your grenades

>>49978454
unless you plan on teleporting them in, there's no reason to take terminator armor, mechanically

>>49978481
>>49978483
How about Librarians? Is it better to run them with Terminator armor, or just the normal power armor?

>>49977567
Thanks.I ask because the Beast Arises novel says at it's creation it's Chapter level,b ut Chapter level is 1,000 battle line PLUS shit like Chaplains, Honour Guard, Librarians and Tech Marines, so it's about 1250 but I assumed that part of the plot is the fact that Koorland dies so the Inquisition go 'fuck his rules, he's dead' and make it virtually unlimited.

I'm really surprised that there is no formation that includes a Watch Commander.

But if it's a large amount, I can have fun making plenty of 'fluffy' guys. Like lots of melee Blood Angels, lots of Jet Pack Raven Guard and so on.

Cheers.

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>>49978411
>mfw my cat jumped on my table and rekt my m8s necrons

proud of her

>>49978522
depends on where they're gonna be.
If they're in a terminator squad, give them the armor, if not, don't bother.

>>49978522
I can't remember, but I know in BA's codex, taking a Librarian in Terminator Armour is favourable choice due to getting an option for a 10pt Storm Shield. Which really helps keeping him alive.

So, you might be able to get the same with the Iron Hands. If you're planning for him to RIP AND TEAR, probably keep with Power Armour so you can nade + sweep with your squad. Alternatively, if he's buffing or pew pewing, then Terminator armour allows him to not be sniped as easily. Of course you can also run him in a Terminator Squad either way and have Storm Shields on them.

>>49978522
For an Iron Hands Librarian?

Unless the HQ is going to be in a Land Raider with a crew of other Terminators (which is a shit tier tactic that will get rekt) it isn't a good option unless you are using it specifically for Deep Striking (which Deepstriking Termis aren't exactly scary these days) it isn't worth paying for.

>>49978196
Know an additional psychic power from any table that the bearer can generate powers from, or reroll failed psychic tests like a spell familiar does. Perhaps both.

>>49978562
>>49978567
>>49978572
Sweet, thanks mates.

>>49978549
My cat did it to me when I was 10. He jumped on a board my mum made for me (I helped a bit) and onto my (albeit shit) painted CSM army. Catapulted everything, my Juggernaut dented the floor, cat was scared for life.

RIP Sooty ;_; miss you bro.

>>49978295

>tfw played MSU wood elves

Trays were easy as shit for me, though I did have one big one for a semi-joke build I called The Shotgun Showdown, which was 45ish Glade guard with my Lifeweaver and Treesinger.

AoS is great, though.

>>49978572
>Unless the HQ is going to be in a Land Raider with a crew of other Terminators (which is a shit tier tactic that will get rekt)

My most recent game against Grey Knights I was able to turn one immobilize a Land Raider full of his "deathstar". Poor things made it six inches before getting mowed down by plasma and an assault cannon.

>>49977708
that cat is so realistic
How did you do it?

>>49978633
Prayed to duncan.

>>49978633
I was going to reply something, but what I wrote I couldn't bring myself to post.

Cats love Warhammer, when my cat was a kitten, she used to pick up my warhammer and drop it in the same place. Would go down every morning to find a pile of models in the same place. Ended up having to cover them up.

>>49978674
>mfw my name is Duncan
>mfw I, for a brief moment, thought it might have been me
>mfw I then remembered it's the God-Painter of Neckbeardkind true name

>>49978539
>I'm really surprised that there is no formation that includes a Watch Commander.
The formations are more for kill teams in the field, assisting other imperial armies. Easy to stick a single one into an army for flavor.

Watch commanders are for when you have more than one team in the area of operations, which is what the detachment represents.

But yeah, go nuts. Deathwatch isn't really bound to rules like other chapters might be.

>>49978674
still, paint is too thick. You should have glazed the shades instead of pouring them like there's no tomorrow.
highlights are unrealistic but overall its great.
nice cat, 9/10 would pet

>>49978701
I had planned to make a 10 man team with some Chapters I like, but the rules made me rethink. Gonna have to go through the fluff again and try and apply them to the right Kill-Team formation.

Do vanilla Space Marines have a unit equivalent to a Riptide or atleast something that could go toe to toe with one in the same points range?

>>49978730
I'm having some fun with a pair of 6-man aquila teams. Five dudes and a terminator all in black fly under the radar when there are bright blue tanks and infantry running around beside them.

>>49978732
200 points of any unit, even scouts, could probably fuck up a riptide. They just have to be in close combat.

>>49978732
Librarian Dreadnought, in melee (HAH), would wreck it's shit.

But in terms of what it can do? No. Leviathan Dreadnought? Deredeo Dreadnought is a similar price but it just can't beat it. If Riptide was a vehicle, it would.

>>49978769
I've always wanted to make a Kill Team of loads of different Special Characters. I think it'd be neat to have, say:

Dante
Calgar
Moloc
Azrael
Logan

See how long they could survive. Against waves of melee guys. Mainly cause some of their models (Moloc especially) are cool.

But, if I can't do that, I'll settle for a few Chapters...

When was the Badab War?

What units would an ultra-shooty minimal melee SM army have in it? I'm hoping to put one together for an Iron Hands successor chapter.

>>49978943
Sternguard. Deredeo's. Thunderfire Cannons. Rapier batteries. Whirlwind squadrons. Autocannon Preds. Devastators. Land Raider Crusaders.

How many of you guys use a tablet for your codices? Any suggestion on a good tablet with enough storage for a large library? Is there a way of knowing whether I bought the e.pub version if I take a tablet to a GW store?

>>49978998
>plastic thunderfire never
>plastic non-wuff techmarine never

>>49979002
You can get an Amazon Kindle for less than $50 and put a 32g+ chip in the memory slot and be good to go.

>>49979076
>GW removed thunderfire cannon
>replaced it with rapier with quad mortar as one of the armaments
>name the quad mortars as "thunderfire pattern" or make reference in the fluff about marines calling it that, while Guard calls it a thudd gun

>>49979002
Well, all the digital codices are natively just for iOS.

>>49978574
Spell Familiar will keep its reroll effect.

Knowing extra powers doesn't really jive with the whole "draining the Thrall for power" thing. I'll probably just do something like extra 1D3 WC.

>>49979002
I have the "Enhanced" version of the CSM codex on my ipad, and the enhancements add really very little. Basically just tooltips of USRs and wargear.

I would have preferred the print version.

What do you guys think about Monster-hunter wounds causing d3 wounds instead on gargants?

Or maybe any weapon with S higher than toughness?

>currently obsessing over 40k
>very likely a manic episode
>can't really talk about much because both my armies are cut and dry

I think I'm going to go even more insane.

>>49978410
I don't want MDF bases.
I want something to keep the units in coherency and make it easy to move.

>40k game with new army on saturday
>I work 2 16 hour days between now and then
>temperature and humidity have been doing 40 degree swings all week

How many people do you think would care if I bring an unprimed army and explain that it's brand new (accurate) and time constraints have kept me from painting (accurate)? I know there's a stigma about unpainted models, and I do normally field painted ones.

>>49975612
Step 1: Throw your retarded wolf wolves models in the trash. Step 2: Have someone punch you in the face for choosing such a retarded army (space corgi players are closeted furries and everyone knows it). Step 3: Pick a good SPESS MEHRINE army like Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Death Watch, White Scars, Black Templars or Salamanders (cuz fuck the ultrasmurfs and grey knights).

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>>49978410
>First thing I found on google: bases for 50 miniatures at 25 dollars us.
>50 cents a base
you know GW bases are 40 cents US a base right?

>>49979499
If the people you play with throw a fit over unpainted models, you're probably playing with the wrong people.

>>49979466
Yeah I get that, I meant regiment base or movement tray.

I had a link, but apparently I fucked up pasting it since it's not there.

Anyway just google it yourself, and you'll see

>>49979463
>can't really talk about much because both my armies are cut and dry

What armies are they, anon?

>>49979535
not what i was talking about.
see
>>49979565

>>49979576

Daemons and Sisters

There's really nothing to talk about

>>49979590
Could talk about Sisters rumours. Also, that's some strong duality you've got there.

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Whatcha fink of my latest mega deff dredd.

>>49979274
If I download the epub from the links at the top of the page is there any way a GW can find out? I just don't want to spend $50 for each army after already spending so much on the minis.

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>>49979616
Propah orky

pillz in dat bottle betta' ave been steroidz

>>49979612

Son, I've been saying Sisters for 12 years. Rumors are nothing to talk about. We've been getting plastic sisters next quarter for 6 years now. Any other talk is just wishlisting.

As for the Daemons, that's kinda why I picked them. Back when I had more people to play with(5th), we had just about everything covered. Eldar, Tau, Codex Marines, CSM, Orks, Nids, DE, Crons, and IG with many being duplicates. I wanted something new, and so I started them on a whim.

>>49979616
Trim those moldlines and thin your paints

>>49979666
And I've been saying Plastic Sisters of Battle in February since July. It'll happen this time.

Anything you feel could be added to Daemons? Almost everyone has at least one thing they think their codex should have that it lacks right now.

>>49976289

wow, first time I've seen SoS. Really disappointing desu. In fact I would go far as to call that flaming shit.

Some of the recent releases have been so dope though. Everything related to the Deathwatch (possible exception of flyer) was amazing.

>>49979702
Not him, but i think there should be more of a gap between Daemon princes and greater Daemons

>>49979714
You have shit taste.

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>>49979714
Helmeted sister's dope. I'm considering using her as an inquisitor.

If the sprues had five helmeted heads, I'd probably run a squad just because they look cool.

Got a close friend who i know for a fact really loves the game, been doing it since he was 10, but he's constantly moaning about how he doesn't have time to paint his Deathwatch army of Tau/Space Wolves/Whatever else he feels like losing with. What are some good workflows I can suggest to him that will either get his army done or force him to finally admit that he's just whiny?

>>49979760
get some friends together and spend some evenings doing hobby shit together

>>49979637
pretty sure no.

>>49979702

>it'll happen this time
Just like heroine addicts can quit after one more hit, right? Still, I have $300 set aside for them and can potentially drop $500 more. However, my hopes are not high. The only reason I'm humoring hope is because the SoS models are essentially fancy SoB models, right down to the robes.

As for daemons, I don't like how they are right now. I loved their 5th Ed Codex. Keep in mind, I started primarily mono-Tzeentch (I'm
>>49977761). Back in 5th, I could drop a bunch of stupid 5 man horror units and drown people in 4/4 fire while my shitty looking chariot flew around being an asshole and my prince(s) looked mean and shoot their bolts of change.

Both me and my opponents loved it because I could just be silly with my tide of pink gribbles by making stupid risky deep strikes and having a laugh because it either pulled a Risky Business with Tom Cruise or scattered into oblivion because they got too excited.

If I do that now, I'm drowning my opponent in psychic dice just by playing my old army. I have to roll on 400 tables before I even play the game, then I have to roll to see if I get fucked for no reason or fuck my opponent for no reason, and an hour later, we're in the first turn psychic phase, and I've got 15 dice to my opponent's 6. I can't even make a strategy because idk what weapons my Prince/LoC will have before the game starts.

With that rant over, I think Daemons need take a step back to the 5th Ed Codex. It was implied that daemons used magic for their attacks because they're literally made from psychic energy. They didn't have to test for it, and that was fine.

There are some other things that I think would be cool, too.

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>>49979925

Of course, I forget to add my picture from the old Codex.

is War convocation t1?

>>49979925
i feel like physic powers should be less random in general

>>49980030
Should be chose a power chose a warlord trait like in age of sigmar. These things are essential to the armies character and strategy

>need 4+ to generate a warp charge
>two 6's causes Perils
Are psyker powers supposed to be so risky? Say you need 2 charges to generate the power, ideally you'd roll 3-4 just to increase your chances of generating it.. but that just means more chances of perils.

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>>49979723

I really don't think I do. Those look so terrible I would expect them to be from some shit-ass off-brand game. Just really below standard GW quality.

Poses are static as hell. Armor looks like Dark Eldar only clunky and not as detailed. Heads look absolutely absurd. These do not come off as lethal and spooky. They come off as a shit-ass knockoff sisters sold by a rival game company as "Amazon Knights"

>>49980060
personally i like the randomness of rolling a warlord trait , it reduces the effect some of the stronger ones have over the weaker ones and it promotes quick thinking , your general is already going to have a role and a place in your army no matter what trait you roll , with psykers that isn't the case unless you decide to go for a primaris trait

>>49980079

Yes, they're supposed to be risky. Most psychic powers, at least the ones worth taking, are very high reward. Increasing the chance of success even a little makes things get bonkers. Just look at the success of the Librarius Conclave.

>>49980030

I feel like I shouldn't have to roll and pray for a shooting attack.

>>49980060

choosing powers would be awful. Some powers are clearly better than others.

>>49976060
Commissar on the left is winding up for a three-for-one motivational shot.

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>>49979943
Not really?

>Skitarii bit is literally "1 of each unit but no more than 1"
>Cult Mech bit is their "detachment" but also has the most expensive units
>Imperial Knight bit is only saving 55 points at most since you can't take knight relics
>no psychic presence without allies
>no transports without allies and even then the transport nerf stopped the best variant
>ubiquity weakens it's "creed potential" since people have probably played against it before and it has limited variability

Assuming we're talking WAAC here
t1: Eldar, SM, and Tau
t1.25: probably where GSC will be if not t1
t1.5: Daemons and Necrons
t2: War Convo

Whats the best heavy weapon to take in space marine squads. I've settled on the plasma gun for my special weapon, but idk what to do for the heavy. I've toyed with the grav cannon but thats situationally good, and I don't like the plasma cannon because gets hot sucks.

>>49980414

>grav
>situational

Just take double Grav always

Are necrons any good? They look pretty hardcore and easy to paint.

>>49980531
They're high tier, although they can struggle against the other top tier armies.

>>49980366

Here's a question- Running war convo, is it better to do plasma spam or is grav spam still #1?

>>49979925
Git gud. How long it takes to run Tzeentch Daemons is entirely dependent on how well you know the army.

People getting butthurt about the psychic dice need to fuck off. It takes tons of dice to reliably do anything with witchfires.

>>49980366
What about with other formations? Dominus Maniple + Sicarian killclade, take Astra Militarum as allies and fill the board with men and tanks to support the sicarians? Maybe throw a knight down to draw their heaviest fire off your rangers/vanguards/cult troops?

Skittari have some limited options but overall are still pretty flexible. It's part of the IOM so you have generally decent to great allies for most combat roles, that is a huge plus.

With just Astra Militarum in particular you get; access to cheap psykers, access to troop transports, flyers, some of the best tank options in the game, artillery, cheap bodies for the mill that can take a melta as well

>>49980240
Funny fact: in psykana you could go 2-for-1 motivational shot if you try to convert your squad to greater daemon. Fail your check and roll doubles. BAM-BAM!

>>49980571
Wee bit of both. Theres no point of taking plasma-kataphrons but 10 man squad of vanguards with plasma is a good choice. I play mine with 3 plasma and Alpha as my warlord. Those sweet 9 shots of plasma that hit on 2+ reroll and usually wound on 2+ with rerolls. I can pretty much count on that they do 8-9 wounds with that.

That also leaves my magos to be 2++ sponge for my gravtaphrons. Give him Raimens of Technomartyr and hitting the deck isnt even so bad when you can snapshot on 5+ next turn. Makes them nasty anti-air unit too. 18 5+ reroll grav shots is ~6,66 wounds to hive tyrant before jinks. Add ~40% chance that Blasters are going to do a wound and thats one hellova threat to flyrants.

Overall I'm going to say that war convo is tier1,5. Its also very taxing list to play well since you have to remember SO MANY THINGS.

>>49980652
funny facts are not fun facts. are you german or something?

>>49975632
The best is fighting a gladius strike force. Like please put your army close on t1.

>>49980694
Finnish but on a bit autistic side. And what are you if you aren't entertained by shooting your own guys? Some Deathwing player?

>>49980585

You can't say it's not completely absurd getting 10+d6 power dice at 1000 points or more.

>>49980556
Sweet. Is the start playing necrons box any good?

>>49980704
was just asking because I was an english TA in austria for a few years and confusing fun/funny was one of the most common mistakes I saw there.

>>49980738
Yeah everything in it is useful and the formation is good.

>>49980747
Guess I'll get me one of those then. Cheers.

>>49980717
It's not. It takes two dice per WC1 Flickering Fire just to have a greater than 50℅ chance of manifesting. You're going to want to throw 4+ dice at any WC2 spells.

You end up with tons of dice, but you need them just to let your Pink Horrors do anything other than stand around.

Introducing Deny the Witch in sixth was a mistake, but even with a few dice you can interfere with the opponent's psychic phase.

>>49980704
>autistic but on a bit autistic side

>>49980794
>a few dice

I still have double their dice for DtW

>>49980746
Wait, what? How funny facts different from fun facts? Both are fun.

>>49980692
So plasma cataphrons are a bad option compared to grav?

Just assembled some, wanna know if I made a mistake.

Any new shit confirmed today?

>>49980850
>So plasma cataphrons are a bad option compared to grav?
Yes.
>Just assembled some, wanna know if I made a mistake.
Yes. Its almost stupid how much better the gravs are. They are pretty much always better even against 5+ stuff since they have 6" better range compared to those plasmas.

>>49980869

How about against vehicles?

>>49980883
Grav wins. Grav always wins. That 6" extra range makes so much big difference that its not even funny.

>>49980895

But it only does anything on a six right?

>>49980897
Yes. 1hp and immobilized. So second six will cause 2hp and generally wreck the vehicle. Also immobilized really hurts since mobility playes so big part in this game.

Which is also the reason why that 30" range trumps plasma's 24".

Is the 'Range always wins' thing why people are taking the LR Annihilator over the Punisher now?

>>49980932
Hrm, My squad has 2 Gravs and One plasma.

>>49980938
Well I guess if you really want to give a bad day to some deep-striking terminators
- you still should go grav.

>>49980934
That and the annihilator is useful if you don't have a tank commander in it.

>>49980802
So? My army is entirely reliant on those Warp Charge points to function. His isn't.

Even if I have double or triple the Warp Charge, he has enough do dice to deny one or two spells that would have gone through otherwise. And if he doesn't take any psykers and only gets one or two dice, why should he expect to deny anything?

>>49980934
>Is the 'Range always wins' thing why people are taking the LR Annihilator over the Punisher now?
Its been a thing since I've started playing this game. And that was end of 2nd edition.

LR Annihilator is bad thou. Costs too much, basic and sponsons, and 1 LC isnt going to do much. Stick to Exterminators with LC/MM-sponsons if you want antitank and wyverns if you want anti-infantry.

>>49980934
Annihilator? Since when is that allowed

>>49980966
Since people have given up on hating Forgeworld.

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>>49979616

The same thing I think in every thread that has fucking awful ork conversions

<spoilers> get gud <spoilers/>

>>49980934
Exterminators are better general purpose. Better at killing most vehicles too. Especially with a tank commander. Extremely versatile.

Battle Tanks, Exterminators, and Executioners are almost always good.

Punishers are extremely good too but it's generally pretty high-risk due to the 24" range and 6" movement.

Annihilators are ehhhh from price and the fact that a Predator does everything a LR annihilator can do but better.

Eradicators are for Tau and Necron.

Demolishers might be usable of they didn't cost so much or had 14 side or something or split shot.

Vanquishers are shit unless youre running Emperors Fist

>>49980963
>>49980966
Oops. Meant to say Exterminator.
Exterminator Autocannon.

>>49980990
When did that stop?

>>49975249
12 year olds do that.

>>49981030
When GW raised prices to match FW.
>Chimeras are $37

Are Leman Russes even any good anymore? With 6" movement, ordnance ruining them, and grav and haywire being so prevalent wouldnt you almost always rather just run HWT/SWT/Vets for AT and Wyverns for anti-blob?

>>49979513
This is some legit advice for all space yiff players out there

>>49979616
Melt it down and start again

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Does the Space Marine Land Raider box contain the necessary components to make a Land Raider Crusader, or is that a different box altogether?

>>49981107
base land raider box (pic you posted) only makes the godhammer variant (HB/Lascannons)

The crusader/redeemer box makes either the crusader or redeemer

The recent deathwatch landraider kit contains all the parts for any of the 3

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>>49975077
>>49975216
>>49975500
>>49976137

I thank you all for the gore to add to my folder.

>>49981130
I wonder why. All three boxes cost the same.

>>49981030
>When did that stop?
For us it was end of 6th edition and start of 7th when FW has started getting their shit together with their rules.
>>49981054
>Are Leman Russes even any good anymore?
Not really. They are pretty sub-par all and not good at their job unless you spam them. Personally I only run exterminators with LC/MM and Armoured Battlegroup Vanquishers with Beast Hunters shells for those pesky MC/GC's.

>>49980717
>only 10 warp charge dice in fucking tzeentch daemons
What the fuck list are you running? Tzeentch should be in the 20's. I play genestealer cults and have 12 dice. Fucking Space Marines usually have 6-10.

>>49981169
How do you have 12?

>>49981260
Two Patriarchs and 4 Magi at 2WC each.

>>49981169

Reading comprehension, man. I have 10 at 1000 points from a LoC/Prince, Herald, and 2 units of horrors.

>>49977464
Thanks for [spoilers ], I was just gonna read that

>>49981264
>More than 1 Patriarch or Magus in an army.

Corrupted a solar system with your Cult's influence, have ye?

>>49980617
The Dominus maniple is a nice low point formation, but the War Convo does everything it does and more.

The Killclade can be lulzy in a casual setting as the 12" "fuck your stats" bubble is nice but it's let down b having to take two fucking Ruststalkers, the worst fucking unit in the codex. if it was 2-4 Infiltrators and 1-3 Ruststalkers it would be a must take, purely for the Infiltrating stat fuckery.

>>49981373
We own an Orbital Dockyard, the seed spreads far, brother.

>>49981374
It's actually 3 Ruststalkers.

However the Formation does a lot to make them viable. They can just hide out of LoS/in cover turn 1 and then turn 2 make a massive fucking charge.

>>49975077
>playing in store
>that table
>not a single painted unit
Fucking disgusting

>>49981449
i have depression and most of my important units are painted. almost everything is primed too. Like maybe if you just built something its ok to go gray with it, but man how lazy can you be.

>>49981132
Fuck you DDR and Karaoke Rhinos are a gift for humanity.

Is Hive Fleet Behemoth extinct? Or does some of it remain?

>>49981833
90% of it died, the rest splintered, but it happened so long ago the splinters are now extremely diverged from the original fleet.

>>49981857
Diverged in what sense?

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Any ideas what to use for a sphere thingy that attaches KillaKan arms to it's torso? I'm trying to scratch build a grotzooka arm. I had to attach unrelated Deff Dred pic. Basically I need ~5mm solid plastic ball.

>>49981868
Evolution. In the Tyranid hyper-evolution sense.

>>49981868
In the sense that they are no longer going to be recognizable as Behemoth. Tyranids evolve drastically in matters of days, this was 250 years prior to current point on the timeline and the splinters scattered everywhere across the Galaxy. The ones that survived are essentially their own Hive Fleets now and would attack each other on sight.

>>49981871
Airsoft pellet.

>>49981890
>and would attack each other on sight.
What? That does not happen in fluff does it?

where can i get custom transfers done online?

>>49981871
A bead would probably work.

If that fails you can always make a sphere out of green stuff and wait for it to harden.

>>49981903
Of course it does. All Hive Fleets compete with each other when they meet to test which has become the more efficient predator. The one which is defeated is devoured entirely and their unique adaptations assimilated into the collective genepool so they lose literally nothing from doing this, all the biomass and genetic material is just consolidated into the victorious Fleet.

Of course if this process is interrupted or interfered with in any way from an outside threat both Hive Fleet will immediately cease fighting and team up to fuck up the stupid prey that got caught between them.

>>49981907
decal paper and good printer

or

Google

>>49981925
Source needed since this sounds a bit like headcanon.

>>49981470
Everyone in my gaming group plays with greys, they just don't like painting.

It's like, 'why bother'.

>>49981888
>>49981890
So not really worth painting them as behemoth then.

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>>49981897
>>49981918
Damn, thats a propah orky finkin`!
Thanks.

>>49981903
They are predators competing for the same resource. The Hive Fleets attack one another, the victor consumes the defeated Fleet and adds increases its own Biomass, becoming stronger overall. Healthy competition.

>>49981935
4th edition Tyranid Codex, dude, how new are you. The entire section titled "Convergent Evolution".

>>49981941
Not unless you're doing the Calth tendril (of which Old One Eye is included) which was frozen in the ice and hibernated for centuries.

>>49981941
>>49981953
Or if you're playing historical games. Not every game in 40k needs to be played as of literally year 999.M41

>>49981942
I bought a 500pc tin of airsoft pellet a while ago for next to nothing and they're amazingly useful.

Aside from using them for various conversions and scratchbuilding projects, I usually put 3-4 as rattlers into my GW paint pots.

>>49981953
Guess I'll just make my own scheme then. Kraken and leviathan are really unappealing.

>>49981470

I have depression and I have trouble finding the energy to paint. I have so much shit to paint, and they're not all primed. Like, 30 primed small models and a big one primed, and another 35 plus 3 big models in primed just for that army. Then there's the basing, even though the last one I based was just painting pva glue mixed with brown paint onto a base and putting flock on it. I want to do more with it, but it's overwhelming.

>>49981470
>>49981977
What's depression like? Someone was convinced I had it and when I attempted to rebut their claim I realized I didn't know what the symptoms are.

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>>49981966
Yeah I agree. I never liked Kraken a whole lot and I can't stand Leviathan despite it having some of the best fluff (or at least it did back in the day before Cruddace).

Tyranids look best in a very dark/aggressive color scheme, like Moloch or the oldschool black/purple from 3rd.

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>>49981988
They look cool but it's not really my style. I'm going down the Nards Nids route (pic related). I've followed his tutorial with success and was thinking of doing that but with blue and red behemoth colours, but it'll bother me if they're basically extinct. I'm thinking maybe yellow skin and grey carapace in this style instead and just do my own thing.

>>49981986

Hard to describe, but there is a big trend of self diagnosing right now. Despite popular belief, depression isn't a case of the feel bads. It's a lack of desire and energy to do, well anything, even though you know you should. Simple things like taking a shower become mountains to cross.

>>49976097
TLOS works both ways. An elevated or prone model is going to lose cover or line of sight itself as well.

>>49980366
>tau
>above daemons
Not at all. Switch their places and you're rankings are correct

>>49982018
So stuff like not wanting to leave the house (or even the bed), not wanting to eat, not wanting to build, play, or paint...that kinda thing?

>>49981986
Apathy.

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>>49981737

>DDR and Karaoke rhinos

oh is that what those abortions are? my mistake, clearly because they are Le Funneh that makes it 100% okay.

Kill yourself

>>49981130
It's Phobos, the lascannon sponsons are Godhammer-type.

Do you guys think that the fifth chaos god will work on the burning of prospero?

What's his endgame there?

>>49982055
how about you take your own advice

>>49981963
I hope you bought the really cheap plastic ones and not the biodegradable resin ones. (if you're not sure crush one in some pliers - bio will generally squash rather than shatter)

>>49982086
Fifth?

>>49982146
Ward.

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>>49982035
Not that anon, but I've been clinically diagnosed with as my psych refers to it "a depressive illness".

Some days simple things that you stated are the hardest things to do at all.

The worst part is not finding joy in what you previously may have. So I love painting and converting but some days just don't feel that joy. Combine that with apathy and lack of motivation as the other symptoms and I have a bunch of half built, grey squads sitting on my paint station waiting for me to breathe life into them.

>>49982146
Malal or Be'lakor i reckon

>>49982077
Yes, the hull is the Phobos, but the one armed with the lascannons is the Godhammer variant of Phobos, just like how the one with bolters and assault cannons is the Crusader variant and the one with flamers and assault cannons is the Redeemer variant.

>>49982180
You know what you need mate? A campaign. Everyone loves to put in some effort when there's a campaign on! >:D

>>49980794
>My Riptide is going to shoot...
>Nope. I Deny the Gun.

Story of Witchfires. I can guarantee that one of Fateweaver's key witchfires will be denied each turn.

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>>49976060
Amazing You actually bought that many psykers. I wish you like with painting them all.

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>>49981986

>>49981986
This is one of the best ones describing depression https://www.ted.com/talks/andrew_solomon_depression_the_secret_we_share

But depression is fickle. Its not sadness but lack of life. Apathy. You want to do but you cant. I never could have imagined it before it hit me. And nowadays I'll never underestimate anyone who says they suffer from depression. Its a fucking horrible piece of mental sickness.

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>>49980794
>that feel when you actually manage to deny the witch a few times a game

i usually need at least 6 dice to deny a lv2 or 2 warp charges. i was always envious the psychic hood

>>49981986
I almost walked in front of cars or trains a few times. You know what I felt when I realized that?

Nothing really.

>>49982568
yeah i bet they'dd call it something crazy like an armor, invul or cover safe to lmao

So i want to start up an small tzeentch force about 750 points or less , i have got an herald on a chariot what should i get next?

>>49982951

Yeah, depression cost me a few years when it + anxiety had me drop out of uni. It was a bitch and a half to deal with, not least of all because depression does a damn good job of preventing you being able to reach out and get the help you need to deal with depression. Still, back at uni and finishing off my final project so fuck you depression, not letting you win.

>>49982180
Get some brain meds, dude. If your body chemistry can't produce the regular/necessary amount of chemicals, store bought is just fine.

You enjoy things, but suddenly your skull meat tells you that you don't--it's wrong, not you. Get it fixed up. My chemistry says I should be killing things and fucking other things all day long, but it's similarly incorrect. Not every female needs my dick, & not every dude needs me to tomahawk his skull.
t. a dude who's better on meds

>>49983273
I powered through uni twice with depression/anxiety, but could easily at any point have ended up like you & came close quite a few times. Good on you for finishing up--get some meds like this >>49983373 guy says.

>>49983373

Not who you are talking to but I can (Mostly) vouch for that. Med do a world of good for most people.

I'm one of the few exceptions myself. Anti-anxiety medication doesn't work fantastically when my family has a massive history of substance abuse and korsakoffs. Just makes my anxiety worse as I double guess my every thought and spend forever self-analysing my mental state. I make do with a lot of meditation and thought pattern recognition my shrink drilled into me instead.

I'm very much an exception though and know a lot of people who are a hell of a lot better off now.

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>>49975273
>Bloody Nora luv hav a look out tha winda!

>That twat from across road fookin all dressed up again,

>Aye the one with arse burgers luv.

>I'll call the old bill, armed response will sort this fucker out.

>>49983273

Good for you anon. That shit got me twice at two different schools. Really need to get back and finish that shit...

>>49983405

Oh, I'm treated now. It's how I got back.

See: >>49983411 that's me talking about my issue with meds. I have my shrink in my phone (It rarely gets used but having it is comforting) and I've done a lot with all sorts of things that sound silly when you first hear about them but are actually really comforting/helpful.

The silliest/surprisingly most effective? Power Posing. Standing straight up, hands on your hips like you are out of a golden age superhero comic. Causes a surprising about of chemical change in the brain and is simple enough you can do it literally anywhere so even if it's not as effective as a full progressive muscle relaxation run for calming me the fuck down I can do it whenever I have any anxiety.

Depression and Anxiety don't go away but man, I'm grateful for my shrinks giving me tools to not let it ruin my life.

already asked WIP but didnt get a responce, need to run to the store soon so nows a perfect time to ask
I just finished a cheapo light box
In my desk lamp I have a 40watt equivalent LED light bulb. Can i just get a second 40watt equal LED for the second lamp?
OR should I go buy two 100 Watt CFL bulbs? either way its going to be about the same price, but I'm not sure if the 40watt equivalent is going to be bright enough, I've also head some people say the LED flickers on camera but i havnt seen this though my camera

>>49983663
I use a 40 watt to photograph and while its not super amazing it does get the job done. I imagine two 40 watts would be more than enough.

>>49983700
yeah its a fairly large box, about 19 tall, 15 wide, 12 inches deep, but i made sure the sides are at least 75% tissue paper so i can position the lights how i want
i just dont feel like taking the 40watt bulb out my my desk lamp every time i want to photograph a figure

>>49983189
>yeah i bet they'dd call it something crazy like an armor, invul or cover safe to lmao

Wait... so you're telling me Witchfires ignore saves? [Spoiler] They don't. [/Spoiler]

Gun:
>Roll to Hit > Roll to Wound > Roll to Save

Witchfire:
>Roll to Manifest > Roll to Deny > Roll to Hit > Roll to Wound > Roll to Save

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>>49975244
Jon Camacho went 7th at LVO this year with the list in the left. He wanted to run a Necron army that specifically did not include the Canoptek Harvest or Destroyer Cult to see if it could work, and it "mostly" did (at least until he came across a guy that used Pale Courts to run 9 units of Warp Spiders).

I personally have to give him credit. The list makes sense overall. The Obelisk and Monolith threaten multiple units at once while requiring heavy AT to kill, the Deathmarks provide insurance versus Skyhammers or WWP DScythes, and he's "tough/fast enough" to do objectives. And just for comedy's sake, the Obelisk can also move 12 and Thunderblitz stuff.

5th place was Alex Fennel running a Destroyer Cult & Harvest, and joining Zahndrekh/Orikan/the Destroyer Lord to the Wraiths as the other version of the Orikan-star.

>>49983809
>the Obelisk can also move 12 and Thunderblitz stuff.
Its kinda sad that comparing to Stomp, Thunderblitz so much worse.

>go to new FLGS to see the community
>owner runs 7 space wolf dreadnoughts in drop pods
>plans to get that one librarian dread hero to make his dreads flying

Why do people cheese? How would I even counter this bullshit with my Tyranids? Only thing I can imagine is zoanthrope spam and warp lance for days.

>>49981737
Maybe if they had more than 20 seconds of work put into them.

>>49984124
>dread list
>cheese
If he was running twolf ironpriests he'd be cheesing.

Flyrants, hive guard, dakkafexes.

>>49984124
>dreadnoughts
>good

>>49983798
Psychic Shriek, the main Psychic power worth a damn, does.

>>49983952
My personal beef with both Thunderblitz and Stomp is how they're "power lottery" effects. Either they do nothing, or they're auto-wtf-bbq-hax.

One thing I'm thinking of experimenting with houserule-wise for Stomps is:
-All stomp attacks must be within 2" of the walker performing the stomp attack. No using "stomp" to assault one unit, then hit units on other side of a building.
-Stomps cannot be placed "on top of one another".
-Stomps are "non-randomized." Rather than D3 blasts, which do randomized damage, you instead get *one* AP 2 small blast at the Walker's base strength. You may stomp up to two additional times, but subtract 2 from Strength and add 1 to AP for each additional stomp. For example, a Knight that elects to Stomp may either do one S10 AP 2 stomp, two S8 AP 3 stomps, or 3 S6 AP 4 stomps.
-Any Walker or Monstrous Creature (except for certain odd ones, like Canoptek Spyders) may Stomp. Certain multi-legged ones (Soulgrinders/Defilers) may "double" their Stomps afterwards.

It would be more "reliable" but not as good at auto-nuking stuff. Granted, the main reason people take Stomp is for fishing for that lucky 6 to kill off members of an Invisible Superfriends Thunderwolf army or so. This would make it harder to tarpit rank-and-file Walkers/Monsters in fights.

Just read about the Octarius War and i was wondering how the Orks remained supplied since Nids don't have loot... Can Orks even loot Nids? Is that even possible? Also how is that conflict still going on when all you have to do is bait and run away from the Orks until they get annoyed and fight among themselves.

Is a landspeeder with just a multimelta for 15$ a good deal?

>>49975348
That is one of the most ignorant and bigoted statements I have ever read.

>>49984281
Yeah. Counts dual multi melta (or buy one for $2 on eBay) and it can put in some work.

>>49984306
You must not have read through the recent generals.

>>49984247
Nid chitin is probably hard enough to build with. And the war is still going on because "bait and run" isn't something the nids are interested in doing. They're there in huge numbers and the Orks have a huge warboss to keep them in line. It'll go on forever because neither side can really run out of supplies.

>>49984247
The individual Ork is not that smart, but the bigger Warbosses become more instinctively capable of grasping larger-scale operational doctrine or low kunnin'.

Tyranids do have really big teef. Imperial Armor 8's excerpt on the Kill Tanks mentioned that the Murda Meks of Tigris (the same Forgeworld that used to produce the Fellblade) have several outstanding orders from the Octarian Empire for said tanks, which would imply that even with Orks individually fighting among themselves for individual dominance, there still is some tertiary system of weapon suppliers, defense contractors, etc.

Actually, fuck, that sounds like a baller idea for an Ork-focused Rogue Trader campaign. "Lord Of Waaagh" where the party plays as independent Ork arms dealers for assorted Warbosses, rival Nobs, etc, and travel from system to system to supply large amounts of flashy dakka, and maybe use it for themselves.

What's the best chapter tactics for a grav skyhammer?

>>49984124
..Cheese? Damn son, you've seen nothing. Just pack up on those antitank options you have and go for it.

Play 1500 list that has 5 flyrants, 3 lictors, malanthrope and 5x1 Mucolid mines. Then you'll see what is cheese.

>>49975627
not him but I'd batter you m8

>>49984232
Psychic Shriek
>Manifest > Deny > Ld Test on 3d6, average is 10.5 > Invuln Saves > FNP

Also, original discussion was about Tzeentch Daemons... which baring Fateweaver can't get Shriek...

>>49984229
Dreads are fucking scary to nids though... They fucking wreck their MCs and Tyranids usually glance AV12 on 6s

>>49984247
All Tyranid weapons are symbiotes and are a separate entity than the beast their grafted on.

So naturally the Orks loot the Tyranid weapons and the Orky "Clap Your Hands If You Believe" aura let's them domesticate them.

Shoota Boyz become Beetleboyz
Sluggaboyz become Borerboyz

>>49984437
When I face players from the competitive circle in my LGS I can either play Necron Decurion, super friends or battle company at 1500 against things like Scatterbike Spam, Dual WKs, FSEs and all the other cheese you can think of

>>49984504
Dread cant really do jackshit against flyrants if they manage to get airborne. Even if pods get first turn, they have to mow through 2+ cover due jink+malanthrope. After that the flyrants just delete one dread per rant per turn on average.

>>49984406
Ultramarines. They are hands down the best at skyhammer, no other chapter even comes close.

You can devastator doctrine and reroll your dev shots.

>>49984547
OP obviously didn't have flyrants, at least not many

>>49984586
Oh yeah. I kinda forgot about ultras but they would probably do the best.

My god, I can practically feel the cheddar melting over my buddy's tau. This'll be funny.

>>49984648
Tau have interceptor stuff so watch out.

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Posting muh game. First time taking this army out in its own right, was a very interesting game against genestealer cults. Highlight for me was my melts veterans jumping out of my Valkyrie to exact revenge on the genestealers that had just slaughtered my front line.

>>49984667
He doesn't bring anything that can.

>>49984648
>tau
If he is prepared for it and uses his interceptor you may be up for a bad time

How many Fire Warriors fit on the Tide Wall?
I want to utilize my 40 Fire Warriors and maybe back it up with 9 Crisis Suits and 2 Broadside.
I also have three ethereals.

>>49984703
You are using gravhammer against tau that doesnt use any stuff that could take Interceptor? Damn. Now you're the dickhead man.

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>>49984703
Fuck his shit up, brother.
Doesn't matter if he's your best friend. Doesn't matter if he saved your life.

He plays tau and he deserves to get fucked.

>>49984789
Spotted the Tau player.

>>49984667
Tau can't do shit that isn't riptide spam

>>49984822
Imperial guard actually. I'm the one who always advocates using Malcador Infernus, BHS-Vanquishers and Vultures.

>>49984699
Looks nice. I'm just starting with Imperial guard and I have a boner looking at the AGEIS defense line.

Also from what I read Wyvern Suppression Tank is the best thing to hide behind it.

>>49984699

Aegis gunlines are my fetish.

>>49984699
how big is that army?

>>49984866
>>49984916
Aegis are sexy but you pretty much lose games if you take them. It advocates playstyle that isnt good.

>>49984951
You have to move and take over the midfield to win games otherwise you lose?

>>49984951
Tell me more please. I'm new.

Is there a legitimate reason to hate Ultramarines in this day and age? Or is it just a meme at this point?

>>49984790
show me on the doll where Shas'O touched you

>>49984991

To capture objectives, you have to move around.

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>>49985005
Mostly due to your spiritual liege that has put his dick into the fluff claiming that Ultra Marines are better than any other space marine chapter.