Pathfinder General /pfg/

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For the Dwarf Fort guy, does this seem about right?

The dude with the Elf story better pastebin that shiz and link it here

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In another form, what are your favorite monsters? I need monsters for a campaign I'm running, and I'm not used to running campaigns.

>>49921735
Holy shit, is that a Dullahan Svathurim? That's fucking badass. Where's it from?

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>he plays a martial

>>49921735
Chest mimics
Also slimes and oozes

Where can I find this so-called "Vigilante Legends" homebrew?
It's supposed to have good stuff for the paizo class.

>>49921760

I like playing martials!

>>49921735
I just like skeletons.

ye olde classic.

Especially great if they rattle and cackle madly.

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>>49921760
I play my power fantasy.

>>49921760

Someone needs to princess-carry the caster, anon.

>>49921821

My power fantasy is big hairy brutes with rough personalities and hearts of gold..

Reposting this from last thread

If Pathfinder Unchained Volume 2 were to come out tomorrow, and it were written by sane, competent individuals taking the community's requests to heart, what would be in it? What would YOU want to see in it?

>>49921788
It's not homebrew, it's a 3p product, and it's pretty awesome. Sadly it's getting split up a lot between different products (still waiting for that archetype that gives inspiration).

>>49921735
Hydras
Sphinxes
Driders
Kamadan / Displacer Beast

Mother
fucking
dinosaurs

>>49921857
Who's it by?

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>>49921899
Me, but more specifically, legendary games. The first book was put out that has a lot of cool stuff in it, and the second volume, the villain's version, should be out soon enough. There's a bunch of stuff that's being subbed out to other books though.

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>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/ritual-hex

How do I get a +40 to knowledge checks?

>>49921735

Gnolls, demons, SKELETON WARRIORS, and anything that resembles a giant gorilla.

>>49921735
Minotaur were-baboon. Scares the shit out of the party every time.

>>49922089

>That spoiler

Gets even better when you surprise them with SKELETON BALL!

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>>49922124
>mfw I'm making a skeleton warrior and skeleton ball for my game

>>49922114
>every time.
True. I've thrown minotaur were-baboons at my PCs three times now and they still piss themselves.

>>49922183
Serious? That is such an oddly specific thing I cant think of it showing up more than once.

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>>49922214
>Serious?

>>49922222
Yes, serious, Lee

>>49922183
Piss themselves laughing maybe.

>>49922247
Nah nig you just gotta get the atmosphere going, use the right music. I use some real Cannibal Holocaust type shit.

>>49921760
>he posts anime

>>49922307

>he complains about anime on an anime site

>>49922348
>he posts anime on an anime site
Pleb.

>>49922247
Remember that baboons/mandrills are psychotically aggressive, angry and they prefer to eat meat when possible. They'll fuck with lions occasionally, and they'll happily eat gazelle particularly infants.

Imagine this shrieking monster chasing you through tunnels, louder and more wild as it gets closer and closer. You barely have a fucking clue what it is but it seems to shrug off damage like no ones fucking business and you *saw* it eat the one guy who fell too far behind.

>>49922380
>discussing anime on a Hawaiian Buyers Remorse Support Forum

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>>49922460
I dont understand this reaction image.

>>49922544
I don't understand you not understanding, although that's probably because I'm a filthy neurotypical.

>>49922222
Jesus christ those quints

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>>49921735
On the same topic, what are some homebrew monsters that people have made?

>>49922588
What emotion are you trying to convey.

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>>49922641
Initiator Sahaugin
Half-dragon Erinyes (Servants of Tiamat)
I'm going to update Abishai someday.

>>49922160
Tfw I made nito in my game
Fucker was 3 stories tall before he was sacrificed and made into artifact level magical items.

Is there a rule of thumb for power attack? something like "if you need 15+ to hit don't use it" or something like that?

>>49922766
What did you do for him?

>>49922641
A knight whose powers are tied to a near-indestructible clock. Depending on what hand the clock's hands point to, his Hour Hand and Minute Hand swords gain a +1 or +12 enhancement bonus. At "midnight" he can pretty much instakill in a single blow.

Major part of the strategy is repeatedly smashing the clock to slow the advancement of the clock, which eats up a lot of attacks.

>>49922781
Depends entirely on how much of your damage comes from power attack and what your BAB is.

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>>49922803
I'm playing a necromancer so I made him(using necrocraft rules tweeked by the gm).

He was insanely useful, both in general melee and specificly grappling and throwing, being over 30 feet. This isn't going into the Magic aoe he had.

Eventually the gm took me aside and we agreed to axe him, though he felt just killing him was wrong so I broke him down and forged some high level necromancy themed gear out of him.

The campaign is still going strong.

Rip Nito, rest ur bones.

>>49922893
Silly anon.

You didn't kill Nito.

You became him.

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>>49922970
Considering on of the items slowly transforms the wearer into a lich( the items acts as a temp phylactory until a proper one is made) it makes a silly kind of sense.

That and considering my character loves his undead like children, it makes senss.

Hey I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm just curious because putting this all together seems a little silly:

Assuming the DM for some reason doesn't limit free actions per round, does a character with a Quickdraw Throwing Shield, a blinkback belt, and the Quickdraw feat technically have infinite attacks per round? I know Paizo can be bad at this but this just seems like a really stupid oversight unless I'm missing something.

>>49923072
No, you only have as many attacks as you get from your BAB, Haste, or Two-Weapon Fighting

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>>49923057
>>49922970
I should also add that I have infact made wheel skeletons with this character

I guess there's probably some credence to this theory after all.

>>49923117
Thanks. I guess I was just confused by the "unclasp and throw" part of the throwing shield description.

>>49922750
>Half Dragon
>Half UD-8 Kaysers
>All anger

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>>49921752
He's in book 4 of Giantslayer, Ice Tomb of the Giant Queen. There's a bunch of sick art in Giantslayer.

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I'm just gonna leave this here...

https://www.patreon.com/JasonBulmahn

I mean isn't it genius that you don't have to do character creation, except for writing all of the backstory and motivations for the existing premades?

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Hey so the class im playing has pic related ability i can use and i was wondering when becoming large size is there any difference apart from the +2 to strength or does it affect other stats. i asked a couple of threads ago but nobody gave an actual answer.

>>49923742
Becoming Large also affects your reach. That's really badly worded though, that benefit is already rolled into Alter Self.

>>49923742
Where is this from?

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>>49923742
And what exactly is her sign?

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My ranger has the ability to fire an arrow that moves at walking speed for a single power point. It is halved in damage when it hits, but is still able to harm things. Without using ranger spells, what are some ways I could put this to use?

>>49923957
Is it guided, self-targeting, or just SLOW?
Can it keep going further than a normal arrow?

>>49924015
It has the same range as a regular arrow, it just travels it slowly. In the tale of the tortoise and the hare, it is the tortoise. There's basically no chance of it hitting something in combat outside of the flat-footed turn or on a sneak attack, the GM made it perfectly clear.

>>49924040
that's fucking useless then. what the fuck even gives that ability, and why the fuck would you ever take it.

>>49924040
You could possibly grapple people into the arrow. Just fire them from really far away, then force enemies into the line of fire.

>>49924040
Except the tortoise wins.

This doesn't win, and at the end it even only deals half damage.

At least the ethereal bolt power or however it's called deals MORE damage despite the delay, and is undetectable on the initial shot and hit. You know... some give for the take.

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>>49923516
>Half UD-8 Kaysers

I just googled that, and got links to something called Freespace.

>http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTW_UD-8_Kayser

I didn't go all out with the Erinyes against the PCs, but I did use her to set up a plot hook: >>49913712

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Due to the wonders of 'Being kinda bored for the last few days', I bring homebrew.

The Phenomenal Prestidigitator, an illusionist/stage magician variant of the Spellburst Savant.

Feedback is highly appreciated.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hl4iSN5el-ohN9paOuf_1TszJK9_srUXZFxj-HMpz8/edit?usp=sharing

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>>49924101
Erinyes can pack eight of the fucking things.

>>49923957
Only if you can undo the effect at will, in which case you can do shit like fire a whole "queue" towards a doorway when you're being chased, then undo the effect when your pursuer comes around the corner so he gets hit with sixteen arrows.

>>49924089
>>49924100
It's useless mostly because it's a side-power that I got alongside the other things that use my new resource. It wasn't intended for more than a gag, but finding a way to use all of the abilities at my disposal is entertaining.

>>49924092
That's actually a pretty good point. Our barbarian and fighter are both fans of grapplings, so having them put the enemy in the way of the arrow would be smart. I figure if I got arrows that have a splash effect on impact, the slower speed would make it so it doesn't hit anyone else.

>>49924206
Another good point. I'll ask the GM ASAP if I can cancel the slowing effect mid-fire.

>>49924227
>Another good point. I'll ask the GM ASAP if I can cancel the slowing effect mid-fire.
I would insist. If it's an ability that actually involves spending point currency then it has to actually have a use.

Only other thing I can think of is it would make slightly better signal arrows.

>>49924309
>slightly better signal arrows.
Hey, using them as a ghetto Light spell would be a good idea too. Just light an arrow and fire it above the party, and now nobody has to carry the light source.

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>>49924182
Not what I had in mind.

I just put the half-dragon template on the Erinyes. This was a few years ago.

When I redo her, I giving her (Kokinotera) access to Black Seraph, Primal Fury, and Solar Wind.

>>49924324
Except not even because there ARE powers to have lights that last a while and/or follow you but this apparently can neither change directions nor go further than a regular arrow shot.

It shouldn't even be FREE it's so useless.

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In Horror Adventures there is witch patron "Entropy". He gives spells like this:
> 2nd — lesser confusion, 4th — plague carrier, 6th — babble, 8th — wandering star motes, 10th — feeblemind, 12th — antimagic field, 14th — insanity, 16th — symbol of insantiy, 18th — interplanetary teleport.

Now I'd like to ask about this spell:
> Plague Carrier
> School necromancy [disease, evil];
> Level: arcanist 5, cleric/oracle 4, druid 4, hunter 4, sorcerer/wizard 5, warpriest 4, witch 5

Patron gives it at character level 4. I suppose, witch can't cast this spell (pretty useless for pcs anyway) as a 3rd level spell, right? So, patron simply gives nothing at level 4, until Witch got to level 9?

>>49923800
alter self only lets you change into a creature the same size as you
>>49923818
Pact magic unbound there are version 1,2 and grimoire of lost souls that is 1,2 and some extra stuff plus colour images.
>>49923826
Physical Sign: You smell of flowers and a rare,
expensive perfume. Whenever you activate one ofJarah’s granted abilities, your skin flashes with light like a mirror.

>>49924529
I'm fairly sure it's just added as whatever number spell you got it.

IE, if you got it as your third patron spell, it's a 3rd level spell.

Considering that a bunch of Patrons give witches spells that outright aren't ON the witch list.

>>49924529
You get your Patron Spell no matter what, so the Entropy patron lets you cast it much, much earlier than you normally could.

>Read guide about Monks
>"Vetala Dhampir is pretty great for monks"
>+2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Wis
>Pretty great for monks
Wut?

>>49924559
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/alter-self

>When you cast this spell, you can assume the form of any Small or Medium creature of the humanoid type.

>>49924089
Fire it down your escape route and your pursuers will be slowed down a bit

>>49924589
Not everyone can write guides as well as N. Jolly

>>49923957
Distraction+ rapid shot another arrow

>>49924643
no more or less than a regular arrow.

in fact, *less* if this is an action of its own, and even worse if they KNOW it deals less damage than the real thing.

>>49924623
>functions as alter self except you can take
the form of any humanoid that is no more
than one size category larger or smaller
than you.

All i want to know is are there any changes but the +2 to strength or dex when you change size and if so what they are.

>>49921600
you really want to aim the shotgun down a bit, at that angle it will blow your face off and you will probably survive

>>49924728
A very common error actually.
I guess it shouldn't be surprising that the people qualified to be An Hero can't all pull it off so easily.

>>49924716
Your size modifier and all derived stats thereof?

>>49924404
Fire it at someone and run like hell, and when they go to investigate the "source" you are already plundering their stuff/saving the princess/whatever.

Cast a darkening spell on it to create a moving sphere of darkness that you can keep up with, or maybe other "anchored" effects.

Light it on fire and send it towards a barrel of gunpowder, giving you a longer time to get out of the blast radius.

Fire off an arrow with a message tied to it so it's easier to snatch out of mid-air or intercept. Replace message with a rope, a potion, a wand, or any other tiny utility item that can be tied to an arrow without ruining its range too much.

Maybe you should learn that there are things you can do other than "i attack". It's a utility skill, not a combat one.

>>49924567
>>49924575
Thanks.
Sadly it's useless for PCs in regular game even with such big discount.

>>49922641

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ITUVLDcjH_HdH1QrbzMcTCt5d1-0kmHe14nJjaRQKuY/edit?usp=sharing

I made this years ago when I was a teen as a 3.0 creature (I'm not even sure it was 3.5) as part of a group project to make a homebrew thing for fey. I've made a small attempt to update it to pathfinder rules just now.

In retrospect: This creature is just horribly unfun for players as a giant golem grapplemoney

>>49924697
"Let me just RUN INTO THIS FUCKING WEIRD ARROW" - No one ever

>>49923957
Can you only do one arrow at a time? If not, you can make a wall of arrows with some prep.

>>49924589
They used to be +Dex, +Wis, -Int.

>>49925017
Actually, on that thought, it's pretty easy to reach about a half-mile range with arrows. If you can stack them all up and use Clustered Shots...

>>49924834
>Let me just walk AROUND this arrow that is no longer going so fast as to be a threat. In fact, I'm going to first run a lap around it as it travels, and then continue onwards, slipping through despite it being in the same square because it's going barely five feet per fucking second"

>>49925085
starting at half a mile and using a 15ft walk speed you could fire 175 arrows and it would take about 17 mins 40 seconds for all arrows to hit if you fired the last arrow at 15 feet away. That sounds like some fun damage dice to roll.

>>49925223
>Gets an answer
>Starts pissing and shitting everywhere all while ignoring the written rules of the game

>>49925249
LOOK OUT! THEY'RE ... UH... HEADED STRAIGHT FOR US I GUESS!

It's like even slower bullet-bills, but without the dying if you're touched by just one or two.

>>49925272
do you even need deflect arrows at that speed though?

What is t he best Marksman Combat Style?

Sniper looks like fun, but I thought the whole point of a bow user was to maximize attacks with Rapid Strike and Many Shot.

>>49925296
it's magic mate, as much as I hate throwing that response around

>>49925283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYMxgNKIE

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>>49923957

>>49925345
your video does not exist

>>49921600
/pfg/, how Mary Sue is my character idea? (RP 17 max campaign by the way)

First the setting, because part of being Mary Sue is not fitting the appropriateness of the campaign:
>Oh shit, nigga! An ancient Lich just told the sun to go fuck itself and created a permanent thick overcast across the planet. Barely any light can get through
>Vampires and other undead begin making power plays
>Are you a bad enough dude to be a champion of the sun?

So far the other characters are:
>An Aasamir cleric of Sarenrae who is ROYALLY PISSED about the current happenings
>A Human Arcanist who's family was taken by a cult that worships this Lich
>A Dhampir Slayer who understandably wants to kill vampires and rails against her bloodline. She wants others to know she isn't like them but knows they won't care. All she knows is that some motherfucker's always tryin' to ice skate uphill
>A Dwarven monk. She worships Cayden Cailean and is out to slap somebody's shit. She doesn't like all these surface dwellers living in perpetual twilight, thinks They're trying to steal her people's gimmick

So my character was going to be a Tiefling Bloodrager with a draconic bloodline. The explanation being that these aren't two separate ancestors but one: a magma dragon from a clan that had carved out a sizable territory in one of hell's layers. He is not evil (and in fact tries to be good but I'll probably end up playing him as neutral) but is very quick to anger and probably prefers to let someone else be the face. He is not adverse to a diplomatic solution however, and will not try to steer a situation toward a fight.

>>49925468

So, the good guy descendant of a hell dragon.

No more Mary Sue than any other good-aligned tiefling, just going off of that.

>>49925468
don't forget the physical description, you need special eyes and hair and everything

>>49925468
Draconic aspected tieflings are tired and lame but it's not a Mary Sue.

>>49925546
I'm hoping to avoid this trope which is why I want to make him neutral. He would like to be good but he knows he isn't. He's at least self aware of his flaw, it's rage. He's full of anger. To full of it to ever spare someone evil or be content after a job well done. He isn't a murderhobo either though. He's an overheating furnace of hate, only just contained.

Is that too overplayed? Should I skip the shades of grey and make him revel in bloodshed?

>>49925573
I did pick the Tiefling because I've never played anything but human and wanted to do something different. I noticed there's a racial trait for the "No one notices you're not human until your eyes glow in the heat of the moment and you smell of smoke" but that strikes me as super Mary Sue. Why not go with the classic red skin, horns, and a tail?

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I'm using the discussion in the previous three threads to make an NPC healer for bullying and resurrections.

It will make more sense when I'm done with the mechanics and stat-block generation.

>>49926798
O K

K

If I wanted to play Link from Majora's Mask (ie. masks to transform/gain abilities) what would the best class/archetype be using 1pp material?

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>>49926563
>healer for bullying and resurrections.
I approve.

>>49926837
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/claim-identity

>>49926885
nope, that's cosmetic only

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>>49926842
Imagine a Wyrmwitch that went to sleep, then woke up without her hoard 1,600 years later.

Now, she has to work for whoever she can. Unfortunately, she has to roll a concentration check every time she wants to cast a healing spell.

She doesn't always succeed on the higher level spells.

She was unburied and awakened by a previous group of PCs, but the game ended before I could use her. I'm rewriting her since the archetype form Legacy of Dragons fits her better.

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hi there, /pfg/
I revised and improved a big chunk of my homebrew thanks to the paizo and gitp forums.

Check it out and tell me what you think:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xQMlB45-UFEWCB2ffqoBUMhR-t4afSXLk29fgTJNVyw/edit

>>49927120
it's proper to have an apostrophe-S after a singular noun that ends in an S (such as "the bus's wheels").

>>49927120
your "essence pool" overlaps in mechanical terms with an established subsystem, advise adding clarifying text if not renaming it altogether

>>49927235
good to know. any suggestions?

Some friends want to start playing Pathfinder with me being the DM. I have been reading the corebook and I liked a lot so far but I have read online that there are a lot of really underpowered and useless class like rogue and monk.

We are not min maxers by any chance, will my players have a bad time if they pick those classes? What I can do to solve the problem?

>>49926986
I was thinking one of;

>Medium (Spirit Dancer)
>Medium (Relic Channeler)
>Alchemist/Vigilante (Experimenter)/Investigator fluffing masks as mutagen/cognatogen etc.
>Occultist (Haunt Collector)
>Bloodrager (Enlightened Bloodrager) relying on Nameless One mask
>Some class with Nameless One etc.
>Hunter fluffing Animal Focus as masks
>Spiritualist (Exciter/Fractured Mind) fluffing rage as masks
>Skald fluffing rage powers/raging song as masks/performance
>Bard or that Bard archetype with dual identity performance as masks

>>49927429

If you use the Unchained variants of those classes (available on the PFSRD), there really shouldn't be any issue.

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>>49927429
If you're all new to the game, there won't be a problem at the lower levels.

Try going to a Pathfinder Society game first to learn the rules.

After you get a feel for them, look into 3rd party publications like Dreamscarred Press for Path of War. It gives more options for martial classes.

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>>49926563

Is she cute?

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>>49921600
After painting up a 40 year old D&D mini, I now want to create a character based around him. So my idea is to create a "Former Retired Adventurer", who gave up the life of adventure 40 years ago, only to pick it back up for *insert campaign reasons here*.

His name is Grandpa Ben, an inkeeper and father of 11, great grandfather of 51. He has 8 sons and 3 daughters, 2 of which are half-elves, is even a half-orc. After a life of adventuring and chasing poon across the world, he retired to start up an inn with his dungeon loot.

He ran this inn for 40 years, throughout harsh winters and harsher times, until money has run out and debts pile up. Yet despite his hardships, Grandpa Ben is a very religious, family oriented man. He sends money to all of his 11 children, and even tries to host birthdays for his grandkids at the old and decrepit inn.

Yet at the age of 65, for whatever reason, he has been stricken by a lust for adventure once more. He takes up an iron quarterstaff, his old breastplate, and his precious holy symbol, in order to take up his own Swan Song.

>>49927530

So while we are low level and we try to dont break the game there will be no issues? Thanks

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I want to play a smart dwarf. Does anyone know if there is a +2 int dwarf variant out there? 3rd or 1st party. It doesn't matter.

>>49927517
I wasn't the original request anon, sorry

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>>49927543
She's better than that.

She's broken, desperate, and alone.

>>49927593
I am, though, was asking you to weigh in on the ideas.

>>49927557

Godspeed to the old bastard. Maybe he can get a baker's dozen if he's still got it in him.

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>>49927756

Nigga why would I want to bully someone as pathetic as that?

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>>49927756

Make her a Christmas cake and I'm sold.

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>>49927845
Oh don't you fucking start...

>>49927881

They did it. The absolute madmen.

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>>49927881

>Implying you don't want a brown genki elf childhood friend christmas cake tomboy that won't stop lazing around in a sundress as your healer

>>49927917
One who apparently doesn't wear a bra either.

>>49927932

DUDE, puffy nipples and no bra just make her even better.

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>>49927881

This is the best I can do

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>>49927944
Show me where I implied otherwise, my friend.

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>>49927964

I wasn't accusing you of nothing, my man of exquisite taste.

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>>49927845
Too late.

I've finished her statblock, and I'm working on her personal history and motivation.

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>>49928060
>and I'm working on her personal history and motivation.

And those would be...?

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I don't know what to do, give me suggestions please.

d20 relevance completely unimportant to the question.

>>49928078

I have no idea what you're asking for, anon.

>>49928125
Literally any suggestions for something to do, my drive is dead for the day after a shitty day at work but I don't want to go to sleep yet.

>>49928145
Heck off.

>>49928136

Watch One Punch Man.

Masturbate on /gif/ and /aco/

Come up with reasons to include a cute brown-girl Christmas cake tomboy elf in your campaign.

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>>49928072
This takes place in Faerun.

Around -300 to -200 DR, the psionic empire of Jhaamdath was taken over by a Metamind in a military coup. The metamind emperor wanted to build a navy to conquer the Sea of Fallen Stars. He had to take wood from the Chondalwood (Elven kingdom of Nikerymath) to do it.

The wyrmwitch fought, lost, and was buried while her horde was scattered. Two years after Baldur's Gate ends (1370 DR), she is unearthed by a group of PCs.

Her kingdom was destroyed by time, she missed the Elven Retreat, and she found out that the humans won.

She can't even commune with her patron through her previous horde, so she has to craft items and heal PCs to build it back up again. She has a hard time doing this because she has to do a concentration check every time she casts a spell. Instead of a wasted spell, hilarity will ensue if the spell fails. This will lead to bullying.

>>49928156
Done, meh, and kind of already done.

>>49928136

Write a short story about the manliest Kurgessan healer who ever cast a touch spell.

>>49928165

Okay, but can you visit /tv/ and /a/ to have inane conversations about nothing?

>>49921600
anyone got any build advice for a wayang slayer sniper using heavy crossbow? im thinking tons of accomplished sneak attacker, and wait til lvl 6 to take ranger combat style to get crossbow mastery instead of taking quickdraw or w/e

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>mfw finally finishing book 2 for shattered star
>mfw party may have caused the boss to have a mental breakdown and hard reset
>mfw a player wanted to bring in a new PC anyway, so their old one is staying behind to see the recovery and rehabilitation of the Alu-demon, since surely nothing can go wrong with this

What a session. This is what I get for being in a party full of softies, who are all starting to grow on me.

How'd everyone else's session go?

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>>49928250

Cancelled-the GM's valiant attempt to shake off the bug and run the game the day after didn't quite pan out. Poor guy's having a rough time of it.

>>49928250
>tfw apart of FOUR (4) campaigns
>there are anons in this very thread begging to be able to play any sort of game
What an amazing feel.

>>49928250
>How'd everyone else's session go?
I don't think anyone really came out of it happy with the results but at least the party will be able to move forward on my railroad.

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>forever DM
>made a fuck huge dungeon crawl
>its a cursed lich tower
>8 separate maps on roll20, each reaching 200ft x 200ft.
>the curse is that every time the party clears the tower, the group dissolves
>mfw this is the 3rd group who dissolved due to changes to work and school schedules

>>49927964
What kind of monster would make their dog cosplay as a sub-par healer?

>>49928539
>lich DM sends adventurers to his magical realm
>the adventurers always defeats the lich, without knowing they have been cursed the moment they set foot in the tower
>the curse is subtle yet malicious - the heroes slowly lose their motivation for adventure
>meanwhile, the lich DM actually had a backup philactery and awaits the next group of adventurers he will curse.

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>>49928250
>there are anons playing 4 games a week
>I've been gameless for 7 months

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>>49927917
All she can afford right now is a sundress, a dagger, and a spell component pouch. She's not genki, ad she's approaching middle age for an elf. The time she was imprisoned doesn't count.

>>49927791
This is the only time your PC can pick on a high level Witch and live.

>>49927963
The blank stare is close to what I had in mind, but the NPC is a moon elf. I didn't feel like converting Wood or Wild Elves from 3.0 to PF.

>>49928588
>Zen
>subpar
>not realizing OW sucks at describing their heroes' roles
>not realizing Zen is actually a great offensive rear liner with Ana or behind Reinhardt using harmony+discord to screw with off-tanks like Roadhog or Zarya

embrace tranquility scrub

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Was talking with a few people about making a cleric that uses its Domains for more interesting things then just the occasional bonus spell, so this homebrew archetype came from it:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1foLsCL7qMzFPpZzFj4bwLbcvbtTRk9JrJC17cbkD5T8/edit?usp=sharing

It gives you more domains as you level, and you spontaneously cast spells using your domain spells rather than preparing them. Gets more casts per day, and more domain abilities to compensate for the lack of utility.

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>>49928250
>Found a traitor in our army less than forty-eight hours after she appeared.
>Got all the information simply by laying out a toolkit on the table, gesturing with a blank piece of paper, and talking.
>Executed her for heresy and treason, as the Law demands.
>Paladin had a breakdown because she wanted to redeem the demon cultist.
>Proceed to spend the next thirty minutes trading jabs, both verbal and physical.
>Eventually come to a mutual understand, and convince the Paladin to see the value of my side.
>Goad the Cleric into a shouting match with the Paladin.
>Both of them come to me for support and guidance after said shouting match.
>Continue my slow, but steady, erosion of their faith.
>One day they will join me in venerating the Prince of Darkness.
>Asmodeus Vult.

Thoughts on this feat for DSP's Akashic system please?

Essence of Arms (Akashic, Combat)
Your skill with akashic weaponry lets you create multiple to suit your needs.
Prerequisites: Con 13, ability to shape a veil that grants a manufactured weapon (such as Crimson Totem, Hand Cannons, or Loyal Paladin's Spear of Light)
Benefit: You can invest essence into this feat. You create extra copies of a weapon granted to you by a qualifying veil equal to the invested essence.
You gain 1 point of essence.
Special: If your granted weapon lets you use your veilweaver level in place of your base attack bonus, you may qualify for feats in the same way. Feats acquired using veilweaving level instead of base attack bonus do not function for other weapons until your actual base attack bonus would be high enough to qualify for them.

Idea behind this was to allow someone to dual wield with these unique weapons. Crimson Totem would require extra investment since it's a greatclub, and Hand Cannons a third hand to be able to use two at a time, while Loyal Paladin's Spear of Light works out of the box (but is also the weakest of the three). Using essence investment lets it work for yet higher amounts of arms while not being OP with getting half a dozen free magical weapons. My only worry is that maybe it does too much for 1 feat due to the veilweaver level=BAB clause and should be split into two, but a lot of Pathfinder feats suffer from piece-of-shit-itis.

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>>49927590
Please guys? Anyone?

>>49928754
No, there isn't one.

Just ask your GM if you can swap the Dwarf's +2 Wis for +2 Int.

>>49928694
Why not just call it the Polytheist Cleric?

dude, what the fuck - you realize stacking several domain powers is a huge problem yeah?

Anger & War domains grants a pseudo-rage and smite class feature

Saurian, Serpentine, Fur and Feather grants an animal companion

Trickery and Ambush makes you ridiculously hard to hit until 8th level when casters start popping up on the enemy side

>>49928773
You can already stack many things like that with the base cleric. They already have two domains.

I should probably remove taking a subdomain and letting it stack though.

>>49928773
... And those are your only class features, alongside /very/ limited spells. You're not a prepared caster, you ONLY get those domains as your spells.

Do you realize how much of a step down that is?

>>49928773
Also, I don't want to call it a Polytheist Cleric because that implies it worships multiple deities, which this archetype doesn't do mechanically or in fluff.

>>49928773
>>49928856
Syncretist?
Ecclectic

>>49928921
Syncretist sounds good.
>Syncretism (/ˈsJŋkrətJzəm/) is the combining of different beliefs, while blending practices of various schools of thought. Syncretism involves the merger and analogizing of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths.

>>49928824
It actually is a huge step down.

I think its better to just give the cleric more domain spells + powers at the cost of a diminished spell casting rather than none at all.

>>49928953
It can cast its domain spells from its first level Domains using all of its cleric spells slots (not only the bonus domain slot) and it gains bonus slots.

At higher levels it can choose some of its gained domains and cast those spells as well.

>>49928921
>>49928936
Yeah I like this I'm going to use it.

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>>49928646
Have you tried running a game?

>>49929037
>Have you tried running a game?
I have run games before. I'm actually >>49928539

I've only played with friends before, and lately been going to a weekly 5e campaign, but I'm hungry for more, I really enjoy these games. I was thinking of signing up for roll20, is there stuff I should know about their system, or is it intuitive?
and how do you guys usually meet people offline?
Sorry for the basic questions

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/

Tell me about your character's tragic backstories

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>>49929159
I was the child of a hellknight and a peasant along one of the towns near the worldwound. The demonic energies corrupted me in the womb and tainted my blood. My hellknight parent never came back, and the village treated the rest of the family like crap because of our(my) taint. Eventually my other parent died and I left. Travelling through Numeria I was able to join a band of raiders and take up arms where I trained to harness the power of my blood through the weapons I wield. After some exciting time like that I went and retired to good old life of shit posting and watching weeb trash.

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>>49929159
My barbarian used to be son of a chieftain. His people were slaughtered, and he was raped by the orc warchief to emasculate him, and then sold off to kobold slavers. He rallied several miners and laborers to escaping with him. He escaped but those who followed him in his attempts were all killed. He finally arrives at a human settlement, working as a local militia with revenge in his heart. Then meets the party who he knew would help with his vendetta...

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>>49929159
I'm not in a game right now, so look earlier in the thread for the healer who exists to heal and be bullied.

>>49929159
He used to be a young pirate working for a pirate captain who was the Robin Hood of the Western Sea.

Then one night, a vicious storm whipped up by an angry sea monster long believed to be a myth, killed most of the crew and broke our ship. My captain threw me overboard, while he went fighting to his last.

I survived and dreamed of killing the mythical sea monster for my old captain, so I became an adventurer doing odd jobs around port cities in hopes of forming my own crew and getting my own ship.

The most tragic thing about my backstory?
My DM totally allowed it and then ignored how to progress with it

I was bored and wanted to look through various classes and the Sacred Fist archetype of the Warpriest really caught my eye, out of all of the Warpriest archetypes it seems like one of the few that's actually worth investing in. That said, I'm still a bit green when it comes to character building, which Blessings do you guys think would be best for a punchy priest? Personally I find the Void Blessing hilarious, and playing support with an archer/gunslinger using the Air Blessing seems hilariously broken for sniping.

>>49929159
The only tragic part is the sheer level of BAD DECISIONS he's making.

See, somehow he ended up feeling guilty about having a decent life and decided to go get himself killed in the wilderness.

This may have to do with the fact that while he was growing up whenever people around him experienced horrible suffering, he either came out of it unscathed or somehow benefited from it, without having done anything towards such an outcome. To the point of walking right past a serial killer without being noticed, when he was not even thirty feet away from the killer's next target.

Basically everyone told this was a stupid plan, but you can't really get through to someone who blames themselves for everything that goes wrong in your life. Especially when they might be right.

>>49929451
Any of the alignment blessings is good, i think Destruction blessing is top tier, war is outstanding, plant blessing is good

>>49929159
His dad was abusive and doesn't know his mother. Told dad to fuck off once adult, doesn't care about mother who probably was a random whore.

>>49929557
anon, we're talking about our CHARACTER's backstory.

>>49929638
His dad was abusive and doesn't know his mother. Told dad to fuck off once adult, doesn't care about mother who probably was a random whore.

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First time DM here. I'm likely to be starting up a Rise of the Runelords AP for a couple of pals, party will consist of a fighter, cavalier and bard as a DMPC. Will this AP be possible with this kind of party comp, or will I need to scale back encounters or change the DMPC class to make it work?

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>>49929834
No.

Let the 2 PCs gestalt. Even then, you might have to make the DMPC a Cleric.

DSP stuff on the board.
How do I go about building an unarmed fighter who can do throwing weapon stuff?

>>49929982
Difficult to do, given both unarmed and throwing builds require plenty of feats to barely start working. Starting level?

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>>49929982
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/stalker

Stalker.

Take Monastic Weapon Training as a Stalker Talent, and take a lot of Broken Blade maneuvers for unarmed damage.

If you want to do trick shots with the stuff you throw, take Tempest Gale maneuvers.

If you want the stuff you throw to catch on fire, take Solar Wind maneuvers.

>>49930016
1st
12, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17
Race undecided

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Can someone please tell me which book the feat "Stupendous Strength" comes from? One of my players wants to take the feat at first level and says he found this image in this thread and says he doesn't know which book it's from. Google hasn't helped me find results.

>>49930088
Yeah, you're screwed. IUS requires one to three feats at minimum, thrown requires at least two to be barely useable and at least another three to be workable.
>>49930098
Monster Classes: Savage races I from DSP.

>>49930034
>stalker has bad/bad/good saves
Is this intentional?

>>49930113
>Monster Classes: Savage races I from DSP

Thanks.

>>49929942
Would having the party 1-2 levels higher than stated help at all?

>>49930154
+1 level and gestalt could make it rough, but doable if the players choose and play their classes correctly.

Give them a source of fast healing 1 early on to share amongst them

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>>49930137
Read a little farther.

At level 2, he can add Wisdom to his reflex save.

>>49930176
>>49930137
Wisdom to Reflex still isn't great. I shouted at ErrantX about this one time and he eventually agreed that maybe two saves isn't a bad idea.

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>>49928694
Tonight was a good night for homebrew writing, so I actually finished up a second archetype:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tdduljCyv_sLLUh8H57MTg5Q3gGhs85lMYXWMSJBMBo/edit?usp=sharing

The Circle Cleric is a cleric of the faith called the Circle of Nature, which is subdivided into two sects: Life and Death. The archetype is mostly just an alternative Channel to add battlefield control, plant growth/dimisning, and extra healing/damage to plant creatures. Plus some bonus druidic flair.

I included a small writeup for the two faiths but the archetype doesn't really need the setting fluff to function.

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>>49928688
Yeah, can't forget that shield.

>>49930212
Base stalkers encourage dex focus.
Even with weak reflex progression, they still end up as reflex as one of their best saves with both their attack and initiation stat added onto it.

Stack good reflex progression on top of that, take evasion, and you're soundly in 'never take damage from a reflex targeting effect ever again' territory.

Even brutal slayers get STR to reflex.

>>49921600
>95% to hit
Misses, somehow hits the cute little puppy from across the street.

>>49930561
Cute puppy panics, headbutts fluffy bunny next to him, scores a critical hit, fluffy bunny's skull caves in.

If you get ki from two classes do they stack? Imagine Monk/Enlightened Paladin/Ninja for example, how does it work? do you get ki from Monk + Ki from Paladin? do you get the highest ki of both?

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>>49921600
Fucking IRC chat roller we use was flipping coins the other night. 1, 20, 1, 20. Anyone got a good IRC program we can hack to fix this shit?

Anyone remember the name of that one module where you raid Alaznist's secret base?

I can't remember the name for the life of me but I distinctly remember that trap that trapped you in a room full of mordenkainen's swords.

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>>49930659
>http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s9io?Multiple-Ki-Pools
>http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l7ns&page=498?Ask-James-Jacobs-ALL-your-Questions-Here#24899

Sure

>>49931066
Is there a solo image of that fantasy cammy?

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>>49931158
>http://fantasyinspiration.com/inspiration/fantasy-comic-book-art-by-the-udoncrew/

No, but you can find similar stuff in Genzoman's gallery.

>http://genzoman.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>49931066
>They add together
Niiiice

>>49930707
fun fact: as impossible as the odds may be, it's still entirely possible that those were (close to) fair rolls. just keep an eye out for a trend for now.

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>>49931370
Enlightened Paladin is obviously your source of positive ki.

Which one is your negative?

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>>49929159
neither of my current characters have tragic backstories so il give the last characters i played.
Halfling whose whole family+ everyone he knew was killed by demons while he was exploring and about 8. didnt know what to do so just started walking started to get druid shifter powers and almost completely lost his humanity, including his name. took the form that felt most natural to him which was basically a large land turtle. continued to walk for a couple of years until he met a young female half elf druid, she called him koru and he took that as his name, they clicked and spent a few weeks doing druid things playing and exploring the woods until she one night dissapeared without a trace. Koru not knowing what else to do started walking again hoping to one day find her.
Thats all the back story but the campaign is finished so ill continue till the end.

Walked for several years not finding the half elf and eventually got bamboozled into joining party, stuck with them for the most part out of a sense of duty he didnt really understand sometimes walking off when things got too heavy but always made his way back to them. met up with half elf who turned out to of become the high druid but she was very distant and koru was too shy/confused/melancholic to say anything, party later learns that the high druid had a profecy that the smallest koru behemoth(what he shifted into) would lead to her death. Eventually at the end of the campaign koru becomes a real behemoth and is destined to walk the earth alone forever.
pic related a smaller version of what he became.

>>49931448
I was thinking on being Sohei Monk4/Enlightened PaladinX (though another player recommended me Ninja because they get ki earlier but I don't see any other benefit). We start at 9th level.

What is the best "Archer" for Curse of the Crimson Throne? GM is allowing some psionics but no PoW, so I was thinking Zen Archer Monk, Ranger (since the player guide mentions they get a hippogriff), or Marksman.

>>49931537
Marksman has easiest access to utility powers, at higher levels. It's useful for filling gaps in party comp.
Sorcerer who knows acid arrow. no that's shit I'm joking

>>49931537
>Zen Archer Monk
I think Sohei is better archer imo.

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>begin to scheme bank heist, invite party members to partake and get an equal share of the loot
>they all refuse
>later they all start bitching about not having any money to craft anything

>>49931571
Not really.

Though Unchained Monk might be an interesting base for Zen Archer monk, with a full BAB and all...I'll have to look into that.

>>49931575
>During infiltration mission on a massion that belongs to the BBEG's friend
>They decide to go to the armory
>Me "How about we go to the office instead?"
>They "Fuck no, there're only papers in there"
>Split
>They get a bunch of weapons, a couple are MW nothing interesting for me because caster
>I get papers and shit with a value of 5000 GP
>They don't sell the weapons because they only took the ones they wanted for their chars
>I sell the papers and give the group 2000 GP
>They complain about fair share even though they don't know how much I got, they didn't give me anything
>They also assume I'm evil or something, and metagame shit
Fuck this shit, next time I give them nothing

>>49929159
Most interesting I have is a young cleric of Desna, who was basically locked up alone in a magic bunker room from roughly age 6-16, because she had rich parents who lived in a manor and hid her in there while the house was raided by bandits.

She was the only one who survived and nobody knew to come get her.
The only reason she didn't turn insane or sociopath was because she had a high natural divine sense and managed to talk directly to an avatar of Desna in the form of a butterfly, and learn all about the outside world second-hand over the years.

>>49931588
>Unchained
>Zen archer
Anon, I...

Sohei gets to spend ki to add +X to his weapons, anon. Also Medium armor and flurry with several weapons (including bows, polearms, etc). It's a matter of opinions I guess, you like being able to curve arrows at high levels I prefer other more practical stuff

>>49929834
You will always need to scale up or scale down your encounters based on your PCs when running an AP. (Unless they're using the pre-made PCs or built PCs with similar stats)

Most of them are designed with a 4 man party in mind.

>>49931588
>>49931646
Some DMs rule that Unchained works with normal monk Archetypes, and mine has. Sohei looks interesting.

>>49931737
>Some
Fuck my life, I wish I found Gms like that

So for the Wilder psychic class, what's with the Wild Surge and Surge bond class features?

Do I choose a Wild surge to begin with and am stuck with it, or do I use any surge, but bond with a single one?

>>49931842
If you mean psionic, then: You pick a surge type and gain the effects of its bond at the appropriate levels.

>>49931861
thanks mate. Still trying to decide on what I'm going to play for a game that takes place on tuesday.

>>49928217
"Don't". Relying on sneak attacks as a ranged character is bad since you can't even flank, and crossbows just plain suck.

>>49931884
There's a really cool negative-wilder archetype that replaces wild surges, surge bonds, and the surge blast with some void powers. This is an older version, and you can get the most current in Psionics Augmented: Wilders, along with some other cool stuff.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17reBqMwsA0VNTO0H148EIx-iOmqdFH6Gr1G1sGNuTXI/edit

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So I'm building, as part of the setting for my campaign, more specific traditions for the "schools" of magic. Right now I want each school to have a pair of "traditional" opposition schools. So if, say, you are part of the abjuration school, you would take those two schools as your opposition.
Is there any history of such a thing in PF/D&D? Has something like this already been established? If not, for the schools of magic, what SHOULD be the standard opposition schools for each school of magic?

>>49932692
>Is there any history of such a thing in PF/D&D?
2e had opposition schools based on your specialization.

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how do you defeat pic related?

>>49932814
Four Dervish Defender Warders

>>49932814
How much prep time do we get?

>>49932787
>>49932692
Looking into it, those are as follows

>An abjurer cannot learn spells from the schools of alteration and illusion.
>A transmuter can't learn spells from the schools of abjuration and necromancy.
>A conjurer cannot learn spells from the schools of greater divination and invocation/evocation.
>An enchanter cannot learn spells from the schools of invocation/evocation and necromancy.
>The diviner is denied access to the school of conjuration/summoning.
>An illusionist cannot learn spells from the schools of necromancy, invocation/evocation, and abjuration.
>The invoker is denied access to spells from the schools of enchantment/charm and conjuration/summoning.
>The necromancer cannot learn spells from the schools of illusion and enchantment/charm.

>>49932814
>2666 HP
>+5 initiative

>>49932870
Thanks mate. That's exactly what I was looking for.

>>49932814
Zealot
Just one Zealot
Level 20, albeit

>>49932814
Magic missile with fell drain

How does increasing the cast time for all spells from all casters to a number of rounds equal to the spell's level sound for helping minimize the power of casters vs martials with no ToB?

Too severe, not enough, or bad decision? Would making that number reduced by casting ability bonus (to a minimum of one round) help? Also obviously ban quicken metamagic. Spells that are currently swift or free actions by their default (like dimension door) remain so.

Thoughts?

>>49932912
Too fucking severe, also you hurt half-casters like Paladin a lot.

>>49932912
Is this just theorycrafting or are your trying to put something into play?

>>49932814
>Ini +5
He's already dead

>>49932912
>dimension door
>swift or free
??

What's my best option for "dick-ass thief" nowadays?
Even Unchained, Rogue is still pretty lame. I took a peek at Legendary Rogues and it didn't do enough to make rogue cool, in my opinion.
Is Legendary Vigilantes worth looking into for sneaky thief stuff?
How's Hidden Blade from PoW:E? Or Vigilane Stalker from the same book?

I want the character to do three things really, really well:
Instantly drop a dude as he comes out of stealth (which the Sap memebuild Rogue does well)
Stealth like a ghost (which the Stalker can do great)
Have the ability to infiltrate places and social gatherings via deception and disguises (which the Vigilante seems to be damn good at)
What the hell do I pick?
Thoughts?

>>49932945
Theorycrafting at the moment but I would like to eventually find something to implement.

>>49932943
I definitely don't want to do that. Maybe have it apply to full casters only? A lot of them will be able to one round up to 4th level very quickly and only only the really powerful spells would be restrained.

>>49932984
Was thinking of shift my bad.

>>49932993
Wizard.

>Can instantly drop multiple people out of stealth with a spell.
>Plenty of skill points to stealth with, can cast invisibility for +20 stealth
>Has plenty of spells for infiltration and disguise.

>>49932814

>Treasure
>x5 Standard

Azathoth should not have treasure.

>>49933043
I'm trying not to grossly outclass my t3 partymembers though.

>>49933086
It shouldn't have stats, either.

>>49933086
Think about the reward you'd get for taking out Azathoth.

>>49933113
Stalker is good out of the gate. You can get deadly strikes to flat footed and basically shank a fucker right there coming out of stealth.
Unquiet grave has a good level 1 boost that gives you HIPS for one round and +4 to stealth. You can also get a SS stance for heal ranks to stealth as well.
No charisma stuff, but you can use feats and skill points to make up for that.

>>49929159
Not so much intentionally tragic, just circumstantially. Shoanti Aasimar synth summoner who's birth and combat abilities were seen as a sign of the gods, and he lived a long and successful life among his clan. Now he's 140+ years old, and his wife is dead, his sons are dead or dying, and his grandchildren are old and have children of their own.

He left and now seeks death in combat, and drinks heavily when he's not fighting, because he hates the fact that he's an Aasimar.

>>49932692
Thassilonian Specialist wizard archetype is basically what you're looking for

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-schools/paizo---arcane-schools/classic-arcane-schools/sin-magic-specialist

>>49933128
>Think about the reward you'd get for taking out Azathoth.

None?

>>49932993
Legendary Vigilantes is always worth looking into. Moreso once the Villains book comes out, though whatever book holds the inquisitive detective will also be something to look for inspiration is crazy good as well. Admittedly, I also go for more flamboyant, in-your-face "rogue-like" individuals, but there were plenty of tools for the sneaky vigilantes too.

Though if PoW is on the table and you're not just taking a Stalker for all your rogue-ing needs, I don't know what to tell you.

>>49933572
Surely there would be SOME form of prestige associated with taking down the ruler of the Outer Gods (or whatever Pathfinder renders him as). You can't just go, "welp, you killed him alright. on to the next thing"

>>49933651

Who would know?

And odds are, "killing" him probably just means giving him a million years to regenerate his physical manifestation, which will probably take roughly a week your time, what with extradimensional bullshit being what it is. And then where will you be?

>>49933710
I feel like a WEEK of Azathoth not being around would still massively alter the universe. I mean, it's like an ecosystem where you just killed the alpha predator. Who flourishes with him gone?

>>49933621
>Though if PoW is on the table and you're not just taking a Stalker for all your rogue-ing needs, I don't know what to tell you.
I just feel like I can do better in the out-of-combat with another class. Stalker is VERY combat-focused after all.
I'm thinking of mishmashing Hidden Blade with Eldritch Scoundrel and cherry picking from Legendary Rogues at the moment.
I'd like to look at Legendary Vigilantes, but I can't find it on the Trove and the playtest doc is private now.
Vigilante feels like it may be a great choice.

>>49933732

Of course he'd be around, just not physically. That's probably the least important aspect where guys like him are concerned. Worst thing to happen is that a few cultists get a dial tone if they try and pull him into reality, or more likely, they just go insane and die.

>>49933651
Considering he is the representation of the nuclear force of the universe, one would think that killing Azathoth causes the universe to self destruct.

>>49933086
Those are just the random things that are left in his temples for him by weirdos and cultists.

>>49933797
If you stack Hidden Blade and Eldritch Scoundrel onto base rogue, you've barely got any of the rogue left.
>Less skill points
>/Zero/ rogue talents
>No uncanny dodge or trap sense
>Halved sneak attack

On the other hand, there's a path of war vigilante which is pretty great.

>>49933651
>>49933732

Azathoth is something only insane cultists or stuffy philosophers know about, killing it accomplishes nothing and garners nothing.

It's not like Cthulhu who rules an ancient city full of delicious loot.

>>49933732
Obviously we're not talking about ACTUALLY killing Azathoth, just his manifestation. Remember that the universe is just Azathoth's dream, so it'll just vanish when Azathoth wakes up.

>>49933797
Consider the (poorly named imo) vigilante archetype for the PoW stalker:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/stalker/stalker-archetypes/vigilante-stalker-archetype

Gets trapfinding, inspiration and sneak attack.

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>>49933797
Fair enough. A bit of a warning that The Hidden Blade/Eldritch Scoundrel combo is VERY spread out. Like, sweet fucking shit, you probably will not excel at anything, but damn if you won't have an option for everything. I really like it on account of it being PERFECT for gestalts, since it just lets you do so many things, but I don't know if I would be able to stomach it on its own. No idea about legendary rogues, but if it's in the trove then I should probably go take a look through it.

See: >>49933919 as well, because Inspiration is absolutely bonkers and will probably cover most of your rogue-ing needs.

>I'd like to look at Legendary Vigilantes, but I can't find it on the Trove
If you take a dip into the IRC, there's gotta be at least one person willing to link you some copies of the playtest(s). Pretty sure a bunch of the stuff in the copies I have are out of date, so I don't want to go spreading mine around.

>>49933919
Paizo has a Rogue archetype called the Swashbuckler and wrote a class called the Kineticist. Names in Pathfinder are reused a looot.

>>49933931
Stuck on phone for the next week or so I'm afraid.

>>49933906
I'll look into the DSP vigilante when I can investigate legendary options for it.

>>49933086
>Azathoth
>Treasure
>The ability to boast to other people that you killed Azathoth.

That's really all you need.

Is there a way to magically compel a humanoid into service for a really long time? Like a hundred or so years?

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>>49934107
Marriage!

>>49934107
A really complicated geas?

>>49932993
ERTW's beguiler can do all those things pretty well and won't end up supremely outclassing your T3 partymembers.

>>49934124
It has to be non-willing
>>49934127
I was hoping for a cleaner answer. Like a magic item or something

>>49934107
Geas pushes the issue but a century of servitude would require a Wish

What's the best class for a Bushi? ZweiSent Warder, Warlord, Brutal Slayer Stalker, or something else?

And is Daisho Expertise worth it with all of that?

>>49934157
>non-willing
Then forced arranged marriage!

>>49934095

Nobody knows what the heck Azathoth is.

Everyone knows what a red dragon is.

>>49934124

I want to compel you into service for a really long time!

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>>49934326
Will it be cute?

Anyone out there have scans of Blood of the Beast yet? My VC keeps telling me how one of the archetypes will be perfect for a character idea I've been bouncing around for months, and I'm dying to know what it is.

>>49934308
Strictly speaking, given Knowledge DCs, nobody knows what a red dragon is.

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>>49934371
The ring automatically casts Geas on the wearer compelling them into service for a century.

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>>49934326
Quit trying to steal them! I saw them first!

>>49934483
Have you considered sharing

>>49934461

Not yet. Someone said it got pushed back a month, but I couldn't tell you for certain.

Can a Stalker utilise Fool's Errand properly?

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>>49934371

You can be darn heckin' sure it'll be cute! Cute and lewd!

>>49934483

Move aside you hussy, I got dibs on first pick.

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>>49934124
Eh?

>>49934124
>>49934655
... Are there two of you now?

>>49934483
>>49934593
What do I do? I've never felt so wanted

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>>49934675
Apparently, yes?

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>>49934593
Not if I get them first! Roll for initiative!

>>49934581
Stalker can just take Stalker art->Rogue talent->Ninja trick->Wall Climber and then get a +8 racial bonus on climb.

They'll do just fine.
Brutal Slayers get the huge strength score to boost their climb checks and lock DCs, too.

(Recommend also stacking bushi on top of either though, for the price of one stalker art it's a straight upgrade to their recovery method)

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Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>49934696

You just stand on the sidelines and watch 'em fight it out.

>>49934715

You really put the crawling in Crawling Chaos!

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>>49934535
Venture-Captains in Pathfinder Society have it, though. I thought the person who leaked scans here was a VC...and yes I know /tg/'s opinion on PFS...

>>49934715
>>49934742
Looks like the goblins act first.

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Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>49934742
Maybe you should focus on getting the goods rather than making quips!

Just for good measure, I'm taking the other >>49934655 one too!

Hahahahahaha!

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Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>49934816

I'm gonna frickin' mess you up, you gosh darn hussy!

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Every day we stray further from god's light.

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>>49934827
The only thing you're going to make a mess of is yourself!

But I got both of the cuties now! Before my blimp comes and carries me and my prizes to my dark fortress, I'm going to take you as well.

Defend yourself!

>>49934781

Couldn't say whether they are or not, but there hasn't been anything in the thread about it. Maybe they're not interested in the subject matter, maybe they just have other things going on-but so far, no leaks.

>>49934781
Nope, not a VC. Fuck PFS.

Is this going to devolve into elf kingdom slavery again? Because if so I'm game.

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Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>49934874

Y-You better take responsibility for all of us!

>>49934781
As much as I'm also interested in seeing BotB, it's more a morbid curiosity than actually hoping anything good is in it. It has Augunas's name on it, so it's automatically going to be full of shit.

>>49934966

Well, it's a first-party Paizo product. It might just be bad, rather than terrifying.

There's also the off-chance that it'll actually be good, and I'll feel quite silly if that ends up being the case. But I don't think I'll hold my breath on that one.

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>>49934950
Not for you, apparently!
I got two cuties anyways, and my ride is here! If you want to see them ever again, you'll have to make it past my horde of sneks and to my castle!

Off and away! Hahahahaha!

>>49934939

Elf kingdom slavery? I thought it was Elf kingdom eugenics.

I wanna be a cultist!