Warhammer 40,000 general

How many Riptides/FWtides equals one Imperial Knight?

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>>49916149
First for russ had his miniature released before the lion and Magnus

>>49916192
3 tides equal 2 knights.

Are there Kroot Warsphere that prey on the agrarian worlds of the Imperium? Would it make sense for a kindred of Kroot to specialise on that?

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>>49916202
>that fucking frostmourn sword
>that shitty chrome-like finish
>that 'i am doing a big boy poop mummy' face
>that badly attached wolf skin
>those power flairs
That's one shitty model right there

>>49916192
And as for riptides power levels
>Worst
R'varna
Riptide
Y'vahra
(Unnerfed) Riptidewing Riptide
>Best

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Trying again

Not looking to be competitive, but thoughts on a Hunter Cadre with
1 Commander
1 Cadre Fireblade
1 Unit of Crisis Bodyguards
4 Strike Teams
2 Breacher Teams
2 Units of Stealth Suits
1 Ghostkeel
2 Pathfinders
1 Unit of Drones
3 Hammerheads

>>49916225
The one that the furries deserve.

>>49916249
You make a solid point

>>49916202
such a ugly mini

>>49916225
>>49916249
Magnus/Lion fag detected

>>49916225
>>49916249
>>49916261
>>49916264
Samefag detected

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>>49916249
>>49916225

White scars best legion

>>49916267


naaa just sayin' what i am seein'
Alpha legion 4 lyfe brah

>>49916283
>Wolf warfare
>Not wolfare
one job etc

>>49916278
>>49916267
Your detector is as fucked as your taste.

>>49916278
>>49916267
>>49916283
Wow the FIDF is sure out in full today

>>49916149

Can you equip a veteran in a command squad with an eviscerator?

What's the best gear for a company champion?

>>49916283
Yiffags are worst than tau scum

>>49916231
>(Unnerfed) Riptidewing Riptide
Huh?

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>>49916225

They shat on the concept of Russ, picrelated.

That mini looks like a giant Ragnar Blackmane

>>49916202
>>49916369
I think it looks perfectly fine. He doesn't look as savage as his legionnaires would be depicted, which suits him since he hated the Space Wolves.

For some discussion of DOW3 for those who care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGdtd2GHh9w
and part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuAHix7mphc

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>>49916365
>Yiffags are worst than tau scum
Hahahahahahaha no, tau are objectively worst and second only to eldar fags the true cancer in this game

>>49916365
We shall see...

http://www.strawpoll.me/11487652

>>49916366
I just see it quite often that different comp-packs nerf it from minor fixes to complete nerfhammer.

I don't think I've seen a Russ model that doesn't deserve to be thrown in a bin.

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Are there any other S10 Space Marine characters other than Silas Alberec?

>>49916403
kek

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>>49916406
Excuse me?

>>49916408
Lysander

>>49916408
What a badass, I love that design. What legion do the Exorcists hail from?

>>49916202
>woman russ

>>49916433
The Exorcists are Grey Knights successors who exorcise their recruits of Daemons in order to render themselves invisible to Daemons.

Silas Alberec is Primarch-sized.

He has S5 and the Hell-Slayer makes him S10, alongside a crapton of Daemon and Psyker slaying rules.

>>49916415
I beg your pardon

>>49916446
That sounds ridiculous, is that canon? That sounds special snowflake as fuck

>>49916446
Okay that does make sense that they come from Grey Knights, but I had no idea there were successors to GK.

Are they from a Forge World book?

>>49916403
going bad for the furries

>>49916202
Leman Russ, seen here shortly before ruining everything.

>>49916400
So are they worst or second worst?

>>49916469
>Lemme Furr, seen here shortly before ruining everything.
FTFY

>>49916476
Tau are worst than yiffs but not eldar cancer worst

>>49916460
It is indeed canon. An Inquisitor oversees the process, and should the initiate fail, he is killed. This is obviously kept secret from all but the GK and Radical Inquisitors.

Thanks to their exorcizings, on their first battle against Daemons they had a 97:3 kill ratio.

They specialize in gathering knowledge and having extremely flexible tactics. This allows them to use any Chapter Tactic as their own, and allows FW to excuse being lazy.

>>49916461
Yes. Badab War stuff.

>>49916202
>Fucked up by Angron
>Laid out by Lion'el
>Somehow turned Magnus traitor
>Took a left turn at Cadia and got lost
Is this the worst primarch?

>>49916489
The Exorcists also have two extra Scout Companies, due to the survival rate for the exorcising.

Funnily enough, this makes them the largest Space Marine chapter. As well as Reasonable Grey Knights.

>>49916495
No, that's Ferrus Manus.

>>49916469
>>49916478
You can't ruin what's already fucked
>implying Magnus isn't responsible of pretty much everything by fucking the webway project

>>49916489
Is it ACTUALLY canon or is it one of those "We don't know where they came from but someone implied it might be Grey Knights in one of the novels so we take it as absolute undeniable fact" things?

>>49916507
I don't know, I'd say Ferrus Manus is a cut ahead of the rest.

>>49916512
Can't remember exactly, iirc it's implied to the point where they're GK but no one's actually said anything.

>>49916495
>Somehow turned Magnus traitor
>implying Magnus didn't sold his soul to Tzeench long before the shitfest of prospero

>>49916512
Lexicanum has the source for that as a short story called Headhunted, in Heroes of the Space Marines.

>>49916531
I'm so, so sorry

>>49916231

Y'varha works differently if you take one or spam it, because of target saturation.

Take one, it's the easiest riptide to kill despite it's heightened firepower. In range of more things, most chargeable, one less wound. Likely to annihilate the unit it jumps at, then suck up an army of retaliation.

Spam it though, then it's a real bastard. Not just because of the linear effect of more of them shooting, but because of the division in focus, redundant tactical impact.

Anyhow, unspammed, a vanilla riptide is deadlier because barring Grav, it'll get to shoot and suck up fire all game long rather than for two turns.

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>>49916531

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Leave Magnus alone, he a good boy who dindu nuffin

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>>49916415

>FW no longer sells the Mars Alpha pattern hulls by themselves

T-Thanks FW

>>49916209
>>49916192

How about the number of Imperial Knights or Riptides equal to one Wraithknight?

Would it be possible to put a Tech-Priest Dominus part of a Holy Requisitioner Formation, inside a drop pod (say, using deathwatch as an allied detachment) and have that trigger the automatic deployment of the Breachers?
From my reading of drop pods they automatically pass a reserve roll, so presumably that counts as a success for the purposes of the "Apparition Extremis" rule?

>>49916576

Wraithknights are probably worth about two Imperial Knights.

>>49916591
No, because you can't deploy inside battle brother transports. FAQ single handedly turned Admech from 9/10 to 7/10

>>49916591
No, you cannot start in a Battle Brothers transport. Read the 7e rulebook. It's in there alongside it saying you can only throw one grenade in melee.

>>49916531
The Emperor made a deal with Chaos long before Magnus did.

Did Magnus fuck up? Of course. The Emperor's fuck-ups are several magnitudes more severe.

>>49916611
But doesnt that only apply to dedicated transports? For Deathwatch you can take them as fast attack.

>>49916632
>The Emperor made a deal with Chaos long before Magnus did.
[Citation needed]

>>49916647
You can say thank you to the Horus Heresy series for that little tidbit. Big E made a deal with Chaos to make the primarchs.

So what's next on the releases list?

We've had a lot of 40k in a row now, so I wouldn't be surprised by some irrelevant Sigmar shit, but haven't heard anything at all yet.

>>49916652
Source?

>>49916639
I believe the question specifically mentioned Dedicated transports, but the answer applies to all transports. It's really just making clear what was written in the rulebook.

It's why War convo went from straight broken "Flesh tearers pods + Skitarii = Rape" to decent.

Can I equip a veteran of a command squad with an eviscerator?

>>49916647
Horus Heresy ruined a lot of things, man, moreso made the Emperor look pretty retarded than anything else. I can't remember the name of the book but I've seen the quotes, Emperor made a deal with Chaos, presumably for either knowledge or some plot-tier bullshit to make the Primarchs.

At this point they're just setting it up as if the Emperor had lost to Chaos on the chessboard from the start.

>>49916656
We don't know yet, the closest thing we have is the battle zone Fenris with plastic Magnus, and some sculptor guy leaking that he's currently working on an army he didn't work before, probably thousand sons

>>49916658
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Big E duped the Chaos gods into giving him the power for the Primarchs then double crossed them, resulting in them having a hissy fit and chucking them through the warp around the galaxy.

The Emperor was just a bigger rusemaster than Magnus.

Original anon might have the source.

>>49916668

That is pretty retarded. If he couldn't make fancy Primarchs without chaos, why not just make Marines directly and forget about them?

>>49916680

Yeah about that "tossing them through the Galaxy" thing.

How the fuck does that work?

Do the chaos gods just have a "fuck you, scavenger hunt" power?

If so, why don't they do it more often?

>>49916696
Well it relied on them pooling all of their power to do something. And that NEVER fucking happens.

It's only now that the gods align as their mortal+Daemon followers aren't QUITE as fussy about working together.

>>49916664
Does the datasheet say you can?

>>49916682
Anon, where do you think the geneseed to make astartes comes from? Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to call things retarded.

>>49916707

Well okay, in that case why did they harmlessly transfer the babies through the warp to 20 habitable human held planets?

Why not fuck with them?

Why not leave them in the warp?

Why not dump them in a star?

Why not leave 'em with Xenos that'd be likely to raise them to hate the Emperor?

Why not a random set of all of the above?

>>49916723
>Why not fuck with them
>Implying most of the Primarchs didn't have personality disorders that helped cause the Heresy
>Implying these disorders would've manifested under different upbringings
>Implying the Emperor wasn't outplayed and outplanned the moment he crossed the Gods in the long scheme

>>49916715

>Anon, where do you think the geneseed to make astartes comes from?

Genetic fuckery.

You can make thunder warriors, you can make Custodes.

Making a stable mass produced variant shouldn't need to require the 20 magical demigods that Black Library decided to interpret the Primarchs as for no particularly coherent reason.

>>49916723
Anon, you do recall that half the primarchs turned on the Emperor, burning his entire grand design to the ground in the process, right?

Curze, Angron, Lion'o, and Lorgar were all broken by their relocations. Magnus and his entire legion got buttfucked into submission by Tzeentch.

>>49916743
>>49916730

>50% success rate

Incompotence.

>>49916723
I mean half of them did end up wanting to kill him, so it did work.

>No Butcher's Nails/No bitterness and anger over abandoning his people

>No Chaos influenced Lorgar

>No Magnus being raised by magicians

>No MURDER BATMAN

>>49916748
Do remember that, in somewhat older fluff, if the Chaos Gods destroyed everything they would've died off themselves without emotional sustenance (hypothetically this was also true in the Heresy, as they clearly weren't as omnipotent as some fluff tries to make them), so having Horus lose and not kill all of Humanity like the Cabal wanted was a win for them.

The Heresy, in theory, turned out as well as it possibly could for Chaos.

>>49916751
I don't really think Magnus's upbringing had much to do with his fall. He fell due a combination of hubris, Chaos influence (Fleshchange), the Emperor being a retarded asshole, and Russ being a retarded asshole.

>>49916748
They're chaos anon.

Is it possible to build a cheese list with IG?

>>49916767
Yes.

You'll still lose to top-tier Tau, Eldar, and SM builds, but leafblower-style Mechvet+Arty spam lists are brutal for other tier two and three armies to play against.

>>49916767
It's possible to build a 'cheese' list with anyone, turns out some factions' cheese just table others'. I like to think the Artillery Company with Wyverns can be pretty nasty, and I can imagine Vets in Chimeras is about the best you're getting out of troops in any scenario. For anything else I don't really have the experience to say.

>>49916748
Well, no. 11 out of 20. 2 of them were so bad the Emperor killed them before they even managed to do much of anything.

>>49916781
Not counting ones who were broken but didn't turn on the Emperor like the Lion.

>>49916239
looks okay

>>49916790

Why are we all claiming Lion is broken? As far as I've seen so far he's just mildly autistic but perfectly functional as a supersoldier general.

>>49916748
If they had corrupted all of them beyond saving, then the world would have fallen to Chaos and basically ended.

But turning half of them created a galaxy spanning war that all of the gods can jerk their related appendages to.

>>49916712
no, but i want to

>>49916668
yeah fucking HH
the worst part is the >horus was meant to lose !!!
bullshit on top of the fact that the emperor is fucking dumb and hypocritical 50% of the time

>>49916866
Aside from models, and even then some of that is trash, the HH was a massive mistake outside of getting sales for FW.

>>49916779
> Artillery Company with Wyverns
the wyverns don't need the fucking company unless you're short on heavy support slots , it works best with basilisks or hydras

>>49916748
>Incompotence.
>Can't write properly

>>49916882
he was actually writing it wrong on purpose to illustrate just how bad it was
t: HH writers

>>49916767
One storm lord, 6 tech priests with 4 servitors with servo arms, the one guy who grants the vehicle he is in with a 4+ invul save, two librarians rolling invisibility, and then 29 jakero weapon smiths.

This is the most cheese you can poor into the guard.

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>>49916790
:^)

Could someone post a space marines kit? Blood Angels, Dark Angels doesn´t matter which one.

>>49916901
Sorry, not sure what's relevent here?

>>49916762
and living on the planet of the sorcerers probably helped

>>49916715
according to FW, it came from the Emperor and his own forty thousand years and super-genius intellect, and what he couldn't do alone he managed with gene-labs on Terra and later on Luna

>>49916736
i don't know, i kind of like the implication that there was a Thunder Warrior Primarch or a Custodes Primarch locked up in a lab somewhere being used as a testbed/control/source of raw material

>>49916866
eh, we knew the emperor wasn't infallible back during the index astrates. i believe the ork strangling the emperor happened then as well

>i'm gonna pretend to get my shit handed to me by this ork as a test to prove Horus is loyal to me

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Will we ever see a proper 40k film in our lifetime that reaches the big screen?

I just want people to understand how based the 40k setting is compared to Star Wars. But I feel like 40k is so religious in nature, and with even the good guys being "graphic" in regards to skulls and shit everywhere, servitors, etc, that people would definitely get uncomfortable with it.

>>49916940
No.

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>trusting Chaos propaganda ever
That's how they get you, Anons. The next thing they promise is good Possessed, a better codex, and then, they snatch it, and ruin it. Why? Read and weep.
>>49916940
Yeah, people might get uncomfortable. Unless you maybe make it an Ocean 11 style movie about an Inquisitor. I would love to see that.

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>>49916962
>uhh are those the good guys?

What is it to be a Space Marine?
-It is to be death!
What is it to be death?
-It is to be the destroyer, the end of all things.
What is it to end life?
-It is an honour, to be the executioners of the Emperor.
Why do we fight?
-To protect the Imperium and deliver mankind from the evil of the xenos, the mutant and the heretic!
What is the xenos?
-A blight to be purged!
What is the mutant?
-A cancer to be excised!
What is the heretic?
-A shame to be expunged!
What is the bolter, the flamer, the missile?
-The incarnation of destruction, by which we bring about the death of the Emperor's foes!
What is the armour, the helm and the shield?
-The embodiment of our faith, our determination given form.
Who is the primarch?
-Our father, our guide, our king!
Who is the Chapter Master?
-The primarch's regent, to whom we swore oaths, the voice of the Emperor in the mortal world.
What are our oaths?
-The steel that binds our lives to the Emperor.
What did we swear?
-Our lives are as nought in the vision of the Emperor, save that by them we shall destroy all foes.
What is the fate of all foes?
-To perish in the fire of battle and be cleansed from the galaxy.
Who will prevail against the darkness?
-The Ultramarines!
Who are the swords of the Emperor?
-The Ultramarines!
Who are the sons of Magragge?
-The Ultramarines!
For the Emperor and the primarch! Death! Bring death to our foes!
-The Macragge Catechism of Hate

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>>49916940

>wanting Hollywood to make a 40k film

>female lead
>quips quips quips
>PG-13
>people of colour making up over half the cast
>quips quips quips
>would never replicate the true tone of 40k (happy endings which Americans demand)
>the plethora of skulls would make it impossible to feature in China (which is Hollywood's biggest market)

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>>49917020
10/10.

>>49917051
>>people of colour making up over half the cast

Agree with everything else you say, but this doesn't' seem like a negative to me. Not good either, just neutral.

>>49917051
>they remove the Aquila because it makes the imperium look too much like nazi's

>>49917020
>What is it to be a Space Marine?
>-It is to be death!
>What is it to be death?
>-It is to be the destroyer, the end of all things.

Now I am become death, the destroyers of worlds.

>-It is an honour, to be the executioners of the Emperor.

Russ didn't think so.

>>49916940
perhaps more like the Expendables; raw, unfiltered, violence, blood

personally i'd have marines fighting a desperate battle to save a planet against orks and directed by Gareth Evans

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>>49917020

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>>49917091
One easy step to fix that. Have a flashback of Big E's childhood back in 8th Millennium B.C. where he sees pic related, and decides he really likes it. Bam! People won't think Nazis.

>>49916522
.....
Get the fuck out.

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>>49916149

Since Penal Legionnaires lost their unique unit entry, what's the best way to represent them now? Bog standard infantry squads or conscripts?

>>49917020
>What is the mutant?
-A cancer to be excised!
t. mutants

>>49917162
depends
if you want your penal legionaires to be relative badasses that have proven their metal go vets or regular infantry
if you want them to be chaff conscripts

>>49917162
I'd say concripts. I have the 5th Edition imperial guard codex some where so i could look for Penal Legion for you.

>>49917162
Why is his gun a different number to him?

>>49917162
Who cares if they're gone from the Codex? Just ask your opponent if it's okay to use them. Would anyone really think one IG squad with Scout and one random special rule for 80 pts is overpowered?

>>49916897

Who would that be who gives 4+ invulnerable to vehicles?

>>49917051
Is 40k implicitly white?

So Im starting a new Tau army and I have a sqaud of Crisis Suits.
In the codex it says the Unit composition is 1 crisis minimum in a squad.
So if I want to have three in the squad will it mean I have to have 44pts for 2 extra crisis suits? (as it says you can add up to eight with 22pts/model.)

>>49917122
>showing Big E
I'm not sure if this would be a good idea if you're trying to show off the 40k setting.

I'd probably open up with an Imperial Guard sieging a heretic fortress city, like its a straight up WW2 in space movie and then SPESS MARINES breaking the defenses like angels from heaven. Then zooming out to show the imperial fleet above the planet. Then zooming out to the dozens of worlds in that section of space, from an agriworld shipping grain off the planet, to land on a manufactorum world building leman russ battle tanks, to a hive world where drafted 14 year olds are being loaded by the hundreds of thousands onto transports to be trained as imperial guardsman. Then zooming out to see an administrator looking at screen detailing that one section of space with thousands of dots and incoming messages/information. Then zooming out to see thousands of administrators looking at similar screens. Then zooming out to see the administratum and holy terra.

Queue narrator~-

>>49917248
"It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods."

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>>49917244
You have no idea what you've done.

>>49917199
Nicked someone elses gun maybe?

>>49917286
Isn't that why they're numbered? To make sure things like that doesn't happen?

>>49917295
>>49917286
i doubt penal guard would get there own matching gun
it's probably just a serial number to show that this gun was assigned to a penal legion and that the guy didn't steal it

>>49917244

It's playerbase is.

>>49917244
The original art was often black and white and the artists couldn't make the effort to do black skin outside of the racist caricatures for lustria
Also the first painters explicitly stated they couldn't do non white faces as preferred super pale so they could add weird highlights

>>49917051
>female lead
Fine. Would be especially cool as a Guardsman in the middle of a hell-hole.

>quips quips quips
Could be grating. Depends how they handle it.

>PG-13
Yeah, that'd suck.

>people of colour making up over half the cast
Sounds like 40k.

>would never replicate the true tone of 40k (happy endings which Americans demand)
There are happy endings in 40k, just few and far between. It's not hard to make a phyrric victory on screen.

>the plethora of skulls would make it impossible to feature in China (which is Hollywood's biggest market)
Wait, what? They have a ruling against skulls? I guess they could tone the skulls down, if necessary.

what is thes dumb new general image
I can't scan the catalog for this
also why is it everyone vs the impire

>>49917378
Might be something to do with how the vast majority of combat any faction sees involves the Imperium.

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>>49917372
>I guess they could tone the skulls down, if necessary.

>>49917217
Its some dark angel guy with an equipment peice that grants his squad and any transport he is part of.

>>49917335
there's a black dude on long war
>shit mufugga gensteala am tight
>gangsta roll fo initibe dawg

>>49917372
China have different cultural views on things like death and the supernatural.

>>49917217
Azrael with lionshelm

>>49917244
Salamanders are all black. Not in a race kind of sence, their gene seed makes them turn

>>49916940
That fact the top part of the church doesn't line up with the main body bothers me no end.

>>49917420
>yfw when in China you have to ask government permission to reincarnate.

>>49917372
>people of colour making up over half the cast
>Sounds like 40k.
it is a well known fact that the only black humans in 40k are a few catachans and genestealers anon

>>49917372
>female lead
Nah nigger.
40k is the most masculine shit ever. the whole setting is built on a roman system of morality which is very male and the majority of the prospective audience is going to want to see a guy up there because they will be guys.

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>>49917444
Do what?

>>49916779
Use infantry lines with a bunch of Russes anon and that works too. You use your infantry as bubble wrap/mobile cover for your tanks. Basic Guard armored strategy right there.

>>49917483
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Religious_Affairs_Bureau_Order_No._5

Order No. 5 states that a Reincarnation Application must be filed by all Buddhist temples in that country before they are allowed to recognize individuals as tulkus (reincarnated teachers).

>>49916510
>implying any of that shit was Magnus' fault when Emps could have prevented the entire Heresy by sending a fucking text message about what he was doing

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"You broke my thing I didn't tell you about because you felt you needed to tell me about A THREAT TO THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE OF THE IMPERIUM but I'm mad at you for the size of the thing you broke rather than at myself for being a failure of a father & being directly responsible for the whole mess."

Seems legit.

>>49917199
I'm going with the guy who modelled those based them on the WW2 Soviet penal troops. Only one in four was given a rifle. Guy with the rifle gets shot one of the other prisoners gets to pick up the rifle.

>>49917244
Earliest RT era fluff had the vast majority of Imperium worlds being mixed-race, with a few all-white/all-black/all-asian worlds founded by cultural seperatists.

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>>49917244
It's a rhetorical question you nerds. Warhammer is very very european, of course it only makes sense that other races exist but the ideas and values are european af.

>>49916696
The Primarchs were made using their power, they have some control over them
>>49916723
All part of the plan. 9 Demon primarchs is no joke

>>49917170
"Metal" =/= "mettle"

Jesus H., /tg/, put down the plastic space mans and pick up a fucking book.

>>49917766
There are people here who don't know what fug means.

>>49916510
My favorite part of Magnus is how he's written almost expressly to demonstrate the hypocrisy and faildaddery of the emperor but people have such blinded hard-ons, even as mere fans of 40k, they must assert that the emperor did nothing wrong

If I was writing warhammer lore I might just off myself seeing how it's interpreted constantly (other than just offing myself for writing warhammer lore)

>>49917738

>9 daemon primarchs is no joke

You realise literally the only reason that Chaos Marines as a faction are scary to the galaxy at large rather than the imperium as an organisation in specific... Is because of an asspull implication someone stuck in about "oh no humans will explode the universe if the golden throne turns off"?

>>49917802
No it's not.

>>49917324
>illiterate American cannot into there/they're/their

M8s, how are we to get off this planet & kill xenos if you don't even know how to words?

>>49917788
>he's written almost expressly to demonstrate the hypocrisy and faildaddery of the emperor
"don't entreat with the powers of the warp, they'll use you" is probably the most sound advice he gave any one of the primarchs

>>49917830
>Calls out Amerifats for being dumb
>Continues to let "refugees" into their own country

>>49917766
>>49917830

>autismo going through every post with a fine tooth comb

why don't you gather you're lego set and fuck off

>>49917807

Yes, yes it is.

If we make the assumption wrecking terra just turns the local area into a warp storm and cuts off long range navigation for human space travel, what threat are the Chaos Marines going to pose to the other factions?

>>49917872
It's not though. Abbadon's goal is to take over the Imperium, not destroy it. Unite humanity under his and Chaos's banner.

There'll be a Chaos Imperium and everyone else is double fucked.

>>49917910
His plan for doing this is letting the Eye of Terror expand until it reaches Terra and then eventually envelope the whole galaxy.

Of course, when he reaches Terra he has to remove the Emperor. With the death of the Emperor, humanity (EVERYONE of them) will explode into Warp portals and spew Chaos everywhere until reality is destroyed.

We have to assume that
A) Abaddon doesn't know this
or
B) Abaddon knows this and has some sort of back plan to prevent this from happening.

>>49917910
Everyone pleased

>>49916658
Vengeful Spirit

>>49917910

If he can pull that off, I guess. But holy hell is he going to have to spend the first five thousand years or so trying to pacify all the normie human splinter factions under that banner, especially the Ultramarine's sketchy empire building bullshit, all whilst managing rebuilding, administration, the Tyranid issue, the constant Ork purges any galactic power needs to do, Eldar remnants sabotaging everything out of spite, and the Tau taking advantage of the collapse of humanity to expand into a genuine galactic power.

>>49917943

>With the death of the Emperor, humanity (EVERYONE of them) will explode into Warp portals and spew Chaos everywhere until reality is destroyed.

The single dumbest thing anyone has ever tried to shoehorn info the setting.

Dumber than the Stormsurge and Dreadknight combined.

>>49917986
>the Tau taking advantage of the collapse of humanity to expand into a genuine galactic power.

This will never stop sounding forced.

>>49917986
You seem to forget that the Eye of Terror would have swallowed the whole galaxy. Everyone would be inside Abaddon's turf.

The Orks would be culled and the Tyranids who avoid Warpstorms, will leave the galaxy alone.

>>49917943
>With the death of the Emperor, humanity (EVERYONE of them) will explode into Warp portals


Where's this from anyway? Source?

>>49917245
Yes

>>49918008
>The single dumbest thing anyone has ever tried to shoehorn info the setting.

Yo, dumbass, This fluff first appeared in the 3th ED main rulebook and was copy pasted in every main rulebook ever since. Word for word copypaste.

That fluff is older than you, probably.

So no anon, you are the shoehorn.

So there is an Angels of Death Supplement for Spaysh Muhreens but no proper Codex about the Spaysh Muhreens in EPUB format? Or does that supplement hold the same info?

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>>49918023
The 3th, 4th ED, 5th, 6th, 7th ED main rulebooks.

>>49918061
See, I remember reading that now.

>>49918009
Because it is. They were introduced and continually brushed off in the lore as a fringe threat which I guess triggered the aspies that like the Tau so they have to turn them into a rival super power to placate Tau fans.

>>49918012
what about necrons

>>49918009

How the fuck not?

It's suicidal for them to provoke humanity as it currently stands, and Aun'Va was a complete and utter moron for doing so.

But if the Astronomicon went offline? Of course the Tau would have an easy time expanding in the aftermath. They don't need it to travel. Humans can't call in reinforcements, and will be more ideologically vulnerable to the greater good's rhetoric.

>>49918061

Wait, that's all? Did you even read what you just posted?

That's saying the corruption of chaos would stand unopposed, not that everything immediately explodes.

>>49918161
Because the galaxy will be a daemon infested hellscape? That the humans they find will all be chaos worshiping loonies that summon daemons?

>>49917738
>9 Daemon Primarchs
I only count 6.

>>49918196

Things'll be headed that way over time, but hell: The tau empire is nowhere near the Eye.

>>49918219

There's a chaos anomaly within their territory, not to mention humans living amongst their worlds.

>>49918043
>>49918061
>3th

>>49918219
If the emperor goes kaput then other than cheggy the chaos gods won't have any real resistance in tearing down reality.

The tau would be fucked.

>>49918231
>>49918196
>>49918061
>>49918043
>>49918012
>>49917943

>Every human will explode into an eye of terror and the universe will melt!

End this idiot meme forever.

>>49917453
But anon, Cyrene, the
> Designated Chapter Waifu of the GalVorbak
Was black.

There are black sisters of silence, and Salamanders.

>>49918161

I believe he mean so that it's pathetic that the entire galax has to become Detroit in order for the Tau to be relevant

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>>49918273
Yes please

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>>49916562
>I only want model when their not available anymore

-Every fucking GW neckbeard

Hopefully they are understanding this and you'll now take the bait at each "made to order"

>>49918412

You don't know what you got till it's gone

I've been going through my previous edition IG codex.

What in the actual fuck happened?

Was there some secret conspiracy to remove all the interesting rules and units?

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>>49918505

>doctrines are never coming back

>>49918505
every now and then the design team gets told to streamline shit

and the guys putting in those unique rules either aren't working for the company anymore, or are blamed for so much shit completely unrelated to them that they're allowed no more freedom when writing rules

>>49918505
So you mean the 5th edition rules? From an IG and Marine perspective they added new units but removed flavour like the regimental doctrines and chapter traits.

Still looking for help with my Chaos Daemon list.

If I were to add a secondary god to my nurgle list who would support him best?

Khorne and Tzeentch both seem like good supporters but I don't want more than two gods until I get over 2000pts.

Should I split the nurgle into 2x3 instead of 1x6?

My list right now:

Daemon Prince of Nurgle (315)
>D6 Greater Daemonic Reward, 2x D6 Lesser Daemonic Reward, Daemon of Nurgle, Daemonic Flight, Mastery 3

Herald of Nurgle (95)
>Daemon of Nurgle, Psyker Level 2

6x Nurglings (90)

10x Plaguebearers (110)
>Plague Banner

10x Plaguebearers (110)
>Plague Banner

5x Plague Drones of Nurgle (275)
>Death's Heads, Instrument of Chaos, Upgrade one Plague Drone to Plaguebringer, Venom Sting

995/1000

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Ok since I might as well ask here, I'm starting GSC and I'm looking at about a 1000 to 1200+ list but I don't not know how each unit plays, help a gene-kin Out?

>>49918566
Read the codex?

>>49918541
I specifically meant the 2009 codex with shit like Penal Legionnaires, veteran style choice on Stormtroopers, Sly Marbo, artillery that isn't a fucking Basilisk, all the other cool characters that were axed like Chenkov, Mogul Kamir and Captain Al'Rahem and fucking nerfs to things that were merely decent, like Manticores and Hydras.

But yeah, IG has had a constant decline in units and rules for years, even with the Bullgryn and Wyvern being added, the last change was still a net loss of about 8 units.

>>49918595
A lot of that shit'll be back in the next codex.

Are IG any good at the moment?
No one at my store plays them, I bought some GSC guys and I'm tempted to sell the upgrades and just keep them as IG, maybe start a little IG force. Good or bad idea?

>>49918412
Fuuuuuuuck!
When did this happen? This is the nail in the coffin for converting a necrosphynx into some kind of heavy necron unit

>>49918618
I very much doubt it, especially with shit being partitioned off into supplements and hell, most of their units are in other codices now, so they can't change the stuff like Lemans and Sentinels without GSCfags getting pissed, and the other half of their stuff is in R&H.

>>49916538
Just read through the story. It explicitly says that the Exorcists have their gene seed drawn from the Grey Knights.

>>49918653
Seriously, trust me. They'll be back, either in a big IG codex or minidexes.

>>49918634
As an ex-IG player, just make them as GSC, they are FAR better off at the moment.

They have the privilege of being a codex released JUST as 7th came out, so half their shit is just completely fucked. Their AA vehicle actually got WORSE as flyer rules were fleshed out.

All the interesting shit got axed because of the Chapter House incident and I doubt that much is going to change.

And seeing as 8th is just around the corner, they might just get ANOTHER early edition codex.

Friendly reminder that furries are the worst

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>>49918686
Ok thats a fair enough point.
It does look like 90% of your army is just tanks anyway and they are crazy expensive and super boring to make and paint.

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Can GW and FLGSs please ban woman from coming into the store.

>>49918713
Its only as boring as unwilling you are to paint it. Don't be the guy who just slaps a coat of paint over the whole tank and runs over the tracks with leadblecher.

>>49918693
Tau are goat/fish hybrids worthy of deviantart and therefore fall under the umbrella of furries.

>>49918755
^This.

>>49918686
>mid tier armies whining about not being the best codex
>proxing as a better army because "they're far better off"
This meme was already stale when CSM was doing it.

>>49918755

Says the inferior Mon-keigh.

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>>49918175
Nope, everyone will explode into gateways for Chaos, dumnbass. This is what you get for reading it without context. The Emperor is currently guiding humanity psychic evolution. If he fails, then the psychic blanket that he puts up to protect them will disappear and Chaos will hijack humanity's psychic evolution and everyone will die.

>>49918794
stfu xenoscum

>>49918786
>Calling things you dont like memes

This meme has already been stale

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>>49918752

99.9% of women who come into a GW are mothers of pre-teens/teens or girlfriends/wives of dudes who play and are rolling their eyes or on their phones the entire time they're there.

>>49918303
Salamanders are whites with black skin and red eyes, stop this meme.

>>49918855
So you don't dispute that IG players dropping their codex for cults because "it performs better on the table and our codex is shit anyway" are whiny cunts?

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>>49918838
And here is the preview of what's going to happen should the Emperor fail on a galactic scale.

The walls of reality have never been thinner and the birth rates of fullblown and latent psykers have sky-rocketed. Humanity is in extremely dangerous waters and only the Emperor can guide them through the storm. Sadly, the ship he is using is called the Imperium. It's a half sunken wreck of a ship.

So my store is starting a new league in December and I'm going to start a new army to help support the store. I've decided on doing a Knight (medieval not walker) themed army using SMs as my primary army. Everything in the SM portion of my army is going to be Bike mounted and I want to include IG allies as the peasants. Given the SM portion is going to be bike heavy what should I take from IG to supplement them?

>>49918863
We have 1 grill playing Necrons in our group.

>>49918921

Nah. This will never happen. It will be left as a inn-universe myth that the Inquisition has come to believe. The Imperium will fragment and at most the Emperor will be reborn in the body of some comatose Primarch.

>>49918964
Conscripts = peasant levies

Rough Riders (or Death Riders if you bring Krieg) = men-at-arms

Tanks and Basilisks = Emperor-class catapults

>>49918964
Platoons with lots of heavy weapons, your bikes give you mobility already and possible anti-tank with meltas, so a bit of supporting fire will help.

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>>49916369
>>49916381
That cod piece looks more like a baboon head then a wolf

>>49918964
Make some greenstuff pitchfork bayonets for a real peasant feel

>>49918964
No suggestions, but I just wanted to say I like this concept and hope to see it if you make progress with it in the future.

>>49918752
Hahaha oh wow are you clinically autistic? Do you just spam "cuck" memes all over MRA shitting grounds like /r/redpill?

I didn't want to believe that the hobby was dripping with obese bitter kissless virgin manbaby pissmoaners, yet here you are. Make sure to tape your fedora to your scalp when you hang yourself.

>>49918752
Which woman, you illiterate troglodyte?

>>49918634
Don't do it anon!!! Don't listen to there xenos lies!! And they're a fun as shit army to play take my word for it.

>>49919140

Thanks, I'll try to post some progress stuff as I move along.

>>49919004
>>49919068

Not gonna go quite so literal with the interpretation of peasants. They'll be closer to PDF/Guard forces but conscripted to and working in the service of the marines.

>>49918911
Did I say anything in my post relating to that? There is more then one anon on the internet faggot.

Watching "The Exorcist" (the series) right now. Wondering why the fuck the possessed doesn't get Gal Vorbak-ed.

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>>49919141
Do you get play this game
Do you even go to a store
90% of people are like this
I think you need some medical help if you get triggered this hard white knighting faggot

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>Playing 1k Space Marines against 1k Nurgle marines
>His sergeant kills my sergeant in a challenge and turns into a fucking daemon prince of nurgle (for the second time)
>Typhus kills a sternguard squad and turns into a spawn
>Spawn gets killed by the eversor assassin
>3 blight drones zipping around the table deleting squads and getting pasted by my Deredeo dreadnought exploding constantly
>The Imperial Space Marine comes within a hairsbreadth of killing his daemon prince but he rolls a 6 on his daemon save
>One plasma cannon marine stands still for most of the game because I forget to fire him every turn
>it takes a daemon prince, a blight drone, two obliterators and three plague marines to kill one scout squad in cover
and people say this game can't be fun

>>49919214
No? that's the point of that post?

How about you actually learn to read to stupid piece of shit. Or maybe should just try drinking bleach and spare the world any more of your stupidly.

Kill yourself.

>>49919153
All of them, im terrified of woman

>>49919174
I do kinda hate always playing the 'bad guy'.
Every game I play I always choose the evil doer, or the alien because its the least popular choice and it adds for variety. While I have these IG models in front of me, and I actually really like the IG (I don't care for space marines), i'm finding it really difficult to stick messed up triple foreheads on them.

>>49919312
Roll with IG.

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>>49919312
>Build them without alien bits
>Magnetise the weapons
>Switch to It when they get a new codex

If your LGS is as casual as mine though scrap that and just play IG. Sure you probably won't win much but you can always just fix bayonets andBring On The Second Wave!

>>49919476
My LGS is quite casual. 80% of people play Space Marines 10% play Chaos Space Marines and then the final 10% there is the occasional Tau or Tyranid player (me) who turns up. Pretty small community. But being a Tyranid player means loosing a lot. I already have lots of Genestealers so moving to GSC seemed like an 'easy' way of upgrading. I just really don't like the models.

>>49919281
>icky girls

Sour grapes are real, niggas.

>>49919522
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynophobia

>>49919516
If you don't give a shit about losing why even ask? Play IG bro they're fun as fuck
>Get lots of games since it's a rare army (provided you don't take a million conscripts and take forever to move)
>Can get quite cheesy with armor at competition time as long as there aren't too many Tau TEQ-level units
>Your Blackshirt will love you for singlehandedly meeting the store budget for months

Hope you're rich

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>>49916202
Gotta say, I pictured a better pose for him. I'm not too thrilled by it. But then I have no interest in the Space Wolves so whatever.

Sanguinius when?

>>49919564
IG it is then. So I have 10 guys an a chimera. What next?

>>49919569
>Sanguinius when?
As part of a new base for the siege of terra edition of Horus.

>>49919285
Lets drink together since your blind shitposting is spreading the cancer.

>>49919649
That makes sense considering the Khan, Dorn and Sanguinius are all still in need of a model.

Can't wait. I hope his model is majestic and glorious.

>>49919641
Get another ten guys and a chimera

Get a few Leman Russes and pick one to be Pask, make sure to magnetize the guns so you don't have to buy one of every variant.

With some more filler of your choice you'll have the bare minimum to play.

Depends on what sort of army you want though. Drowning your enemies in tanks sort of encourages them to bring out the free transports marine bullshit where they deep strike half their army on turn one and melta your ass off.

What's the armour of most buildings? Could a Breacher's Blaster blowup the least armored ones?

>>49919641
Too much armor discourages players who don't tailer and encourages SM to start drop pod meltaspam
Use some of the walkers, they're killy but killable
1 Valkyrie at 1500 points, gunship version is good AA in a casual meta but transport can be funny as hell
COMMISSARS EVERYWHERE. *BLAM* never gets old and with the 1-2 opponents choice nerf it's not as irritating as it once was
Make sure to get BOTSW because that makes your conscripts even more expendable, giving the function of a million infantry units without the boredom of moving them all on the board at the same time
Get 100 dice in 10 blocks of colour. You'll need them and the colours make life easier

>>49919807
Tailor god damn it

Hey anyone use the Maelstrom of Gore formation yet? How about play against it? Just curious if I can start using my Zerks again and not have them be completely awful.

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>>49919569
>tfw Space Wolves player
>tfw love the Blood Angels and Dark Angels too
>tfw this online community does nothing but make fun of my favorite chapter
>tfw my Grandparents were immigrants from Norway
>tfw get called a furry because I love anything that has runes and viking imagery

All I wanted was to play a fun melee Viking faction that rides wolves. Why do you all hate me so?

>>49919826
Smelly dumb list tailor scum.

Do not list tailor.

>>49916239
seems OK, just be warned it's very difficult to get actual army advice when building tau on here. There's a massive hate boner going around, so take the advice with a grain of salt.


Source: Some guy a couple threads ago said crisis suits were difficult to kill and equated it to killing a lemon russ with a single lascannon

>>49919860
It's the riding wolves that may or may not be failed initiates bit, along with everything being prefixed with 'Wolf' that is bad about them.

>>49918566
Play their decurion with Brood Cycle and Subtanean Asssault. There youre pretty much on the right track son.

>>49919868
I mean, I totally get it, but when I got into the game I thought they were playing it for camp in the setting and found it funny rather than aggravating or cool. In a super serious setting, their role seems to me to be like the Orks and provide a kind of comic relief to the setting rather than be the ultra serious terror monsters like Necrons or the Dark Eldar.

>>49919860
because people online hate everything. The guys you actually play against are going to give considerably less of a shit what army you put down on the table.

t. ultramarines player since the 90's

>>49919924
>Tau
>comic relief faction

Wut?

So the current standard game size is 1850 right? How do I reduce my list y'all.

>1 leman russ 150
>3 hellhounds 375
>4 melta vets in chimeras 580
>2 basilisk 250
>ageis defense line 50
>ccs 60
>pcs 30
> 2 infantry Squads w/ flamers 110
> Auto cannon HWS 75
> Auto cannon HWS 75
> Auto cannon HWS 75
>Las Cannon HWS 105
>Las Cannon HWS 105

2030

What website should I go to for bitz, what bitz site should I avoid? Want to put some different heads on some guys also dropped my FUCKING plasmagun down the sink while stripping it.

>>49919863
I don't I just have shit loads of lists. I use one that will be different to my opponents tactics, especially since my LGS is very chaos heavy and I'm a chaos player myself

>>49919992
remove the basilisks and add some equipment i guess

>>49920170
Basiliks are GOAT what are you doing

>>49920218
......no

>>49919992
Drop a Hellhound and buy some gear?

>>49919992
HWSes have shit BS, shit saves and run away if a single model dies.
Remove HWSes until you can afford priests on the ones left.

>>49920104
ebay or check with your locals

>>49920218
how is that 36" minimum treating you?

>>49920170
I see the issue of minimum range being a problem with them, yeah.
>>49920245
3 hellhounds may be over kill, youre right.
>>49920253
So drop the las cannons because of shitty BS? Will these models ever see use?

>>49916149
>Diaz daemonettes when?

My bet is 1-3 months, or never ever.

>>49920253
Commissars in autocannon squads are good

>>49918566
If you read the rules and still don't know how each unit plays, this army is too complex for you. It's high skill-requirement.

>>49920297
Heavy weapon teams should be put in squads so they can use the lasgun guardsmen as meat shields.

>>49920280
>Why do does my arty die when its on the front lines????

>>49920280
It can still direct fire.

>>49916149

>Be new to WH40K
>Collect Tau
>Go play a game in the shop, not played many
>IG guy says no forgeworld so I can't use my FW riptide or Taunar
>Agree to this
>Halfway through the game a based redshirt calls him out on his bullshit
>His whole army is FW kreig guys and tanks
>IG guy goes red faced and starts spilling his shit picks up his things and goes
>Redshirt apologises to me
Why are IG such cheating scumbags /tg/? He could have beaten me easily without tabling stuff cause I'm not sure of the rules yet and forget things.

>>49920372
Commisars are only better than priests if you're planning to g2g a lot and use orders to get back up.
Otherwise, priests are the better option since you don't take morale tests.

>>49920503
>Be new to 40K
>Buy FW Tau shit

Wew lad.

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>>49918505
>tfw no doctrines or hardback

Apparently, I lost 2 wings for my princes, both on the same side. Dare I ask how hard it will be to get replacements?

>>49920543

I figured buying the most expensive suit first and building my army around it would be the smart thing to do

>>49920503
>Has bad experience with one player.
"Why is everyone who plays this faction scum?"
>The Tau player asks an imageboard that almost universally reviles Tau.

Uh, anon. I'm not sure your going to get the responses you're looking for.

>>49920562
Pics or it didn't happen

>>49920531
That's how you protect them, just g2g each turn for a sweet 3+/2+ cover then get back up.

>>49918523
At least orders are fun, r-right?

>>49920562
That's a terrible idea. Now your most expensive centerpiece unit is going to be the worst painted. You want to build up your painting and modeling skills on the cannon fodder nobody cares about and work your way up.

Well, unless you're already a good painter in which case go for it!

Does vox let you reroll incompetent command like any other leadership fail or does it automatically go through?

>>49920597
Hell yea they are! 12+D6" moving heavy tanks! Wheeeee!

Why the hate for Blood Angels aesthetics?

They are supposed to be angelic and master artisans. Moulded, ornate chest plates.

tg just makes fun of nipple armor.

>>49920597
orders would be fun if you didn't have to stay within dick sucking range to actually use them

>>49920713
shave your nipples dude

What's the AV of most non-fortification buildings?

>>49920503
90% of IG players are secretely autistics

>>49921021
The other 10% are out of the closet autists

Are you a good player, anon?

>>49920764
Rule book says 12 if dilapidated, 14 if not.

>>49920738
Personally, I think they need to change the vox mechanics: Instead of allowing you to reroll leadership, it allows you to issue orders with unlimited or at least double range. Then all command benefits and whatnot effect chances to leadership instead of increasing order range. So instead of the Cadian battle group command getting to shout orders to units 24" away instead of 12", now he allows you to reroll the leadership check like the voxcaster used to.

This increases the utility of the voxcaster while also giving the enemy another priority target other than the squad sargeants: Now he'll want to target the voxcasters as well to disrupt the enemy radio network.

>>49921021
>>49921045
H-How did you know my secret anon?

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All of the metal imperial guard boxes expect for Vostroyans are out of stock in North America

>>49921021
Guard used to be bros.
Used to be.

>>49920634
This is not how tank commander orders work; it's 6+d6

>>49920531
Ignore cover and tank hunters doesn't hurt too.

>>49921071
Fun fact, that's how 3rd/4th edition vox casters worked.

Rather than orders, command squads gave their leadership to units within 12" (I think it functioned as a pseudo-stubborn?). With voxes, they gained unlimited range.

>>49921062
I haven't won yet (started in September ;_;) but I like to think I'm a fun opponent

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I'm coming back to the hobby and looking for opinions on whether I should go with Tau or Space Marines. I used to play Eldar 6-7 years ago.

Also, is there literally nothing cool you can do about Tau minis? I don't think I've ever seen any cool Tau conversions or details added. They're all just the same bland stock figures.

>>49921062
I'm getting better, games have gone from getting stomped on to either close ties or close wins.

>>49921202
If you paint them like tron people will respect your skill enough to standing having to play against a massive faggot.

>>49921202
Space Marines. Forget Tau.

>>49921062
I forget my army's rules almost every game, and constantly forget what my opponent's does, but tend to win most games.

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Who else here plays Deldar?

>>49921062
No. I play IG like it's still 5th edition. It's almost, but just not quite, enough to win. Late game turns everything goes to shit. But I'm fun to play against. I'm not a fat austistic balding man child and I'm not ex military. I like to make friends with everyone.

>>49921246
Why would you do that to yourself?

>>49921133
It's 6 inch movement phase plus 6+D6 Flat out. That's 12+D6 inch movement total. And if you flat-out in the movement phase of course your going to use your full movement in the previous phase.

Unless your the type to sit still in the movement phase then waste your subsequent shooting phase going flat out, which is a strange way of using your leman russ.

>>49918544
Iv'e always wanted to do a nurgle/ plague army but I am new to 40k

What are the advantages of Nurgle?

Also you can use chaos space marines and chaos demons in the same army right? I always get confused about how armies are divided

>>49921255
What does being ex-military have to do with anything? At least half the people at my flgs have military backgrounds but they have roughly the same distribution of personalities as the non-military players.

>>49921290
Good cover saves and generally resilient units. You can also get some pretty neat psychic powers for daemons even if you don't get that many psychers.

You can bring CSM and Daemons together just not in the same detatchment.

>>49921255
>and I'm not ex military
that's not really a point in your favor. all the ex-military guys at my store who play IG are the best guys there, we have an ex-marine who runs our tournaments, builds all our terrain, and alternates between playing Guard and Orks and is always a blast to hang with.

>>49921314
Different anon, every vet I've played with is a sore loser. Every single one. They also like to make pointless comparisons to real-world shit: "ok, now I'm firing the 50cal at" "you mean the Autocannon?" "yeah, firing at that squad"

>>49921314
Ah, well then I guess we have different statistics of personality distribution, or maybe it's because I dont play age of sigmar with all the chill dudes at my FLGS. Were in a very heavily influenced military city. But most of the retired or reserves guys that play 40k that I've befriended seem to fit under a small handful of archetypes. Mostly the analytical engineering based type of mind that can't read body language, can't judge a persons character, or can't understand the social constructs of interacting with other people. I could be over generalizing, and I know I am, but that's what I've seen for the most part.

>>49921062
I have fun and try to make sure my opponent does as well.
I like to say stupid shit like "This guy is just starting at his friend as theyre both about to die" or silly narrative things like that.

>>49921429
>I like to say stupid shit like "This guy is just starting at his friend as theyre both about to die" or silly narrative things like that.
I love narrative shit like that
"all his buddies died and he's STILL willing to die on that objective"
Is my go-to

Lads?

I'm looking at BoP. I don't want the Marines, I just want the SoS and Guard.

But here is a question, how much would the Marines go on Ebay?

How much do you think if I didn't include Geigor Fell-Hand model?

I think it's a very good model. I wanted to try and convert it to a Blood Angel, but I don't think I can. I was thinking of filing off the skull on it's chest and painting it red to signal a Death Company Captain. I know those aren't real and I can't even use the DC Relics legally, but I quite like it. With a different head, obviously.

>>49921246
I do~

>>49921464
"We all know that Sargent spent countless days practicing his aim with that las-pistol. We know it all boiled down to this very moment. Would Charles finally make his family proud? Will the Chaos Lord that was 12 yards away from him eat his soul, or would Charles buck up and show his son what the skull of a traitor looked like when he got home?"

*rolls a 2 to hit*

>>49921512
Don't sell them all as one lot, sell them as different ones (i.e. 10x tac marines, 5x tartaros terminators, ahriman) all separately. Not sure how much they'd go for, you should probably see how much the ones from BaC are selling for and base your prices off those.

>>49921512
what monies you use senpai?

>>49921464
Reminds me of a scene from a recent game. My tank commander and co-tank were hiding out in a building, and the 2nd floor was occupied by an infantry team that I was going to have jump down if any melta infantry got to close. The enemy skitarii player had a unit of pletasts rain grenades into the building and killed all the infantry inside. In my head, the tank commander was sitting turned-out observing the enemy troops when suddenly a literal rain of gore fell on top of him and his tank.

I won the game, but it was not a good day for my warlord.